Kombat Kids | Wasted Plotential
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- MKX's next generation had potential, but it was wasted. Shocker.
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Sindel a revenant that's why she's weak the revenants not in their right frame of mind but whenever Sindel comes back to life she be the strongest female again.
That could be an okay explanation. But do you really give NRS that much credit?
Not necessarily
The revenants will still have the same stregnth if they somehow restore their human forms according to Vogel twitter.com/k0mb4t/status/636618574581379073
@@doctorapocalypse7073 Woooooow...
Revenants don't have their same strength then Liu Kang should of one shotted Jax like he punch a hole through Shao Kahn in MK9, Kitana should of stomped Jax and Cassie Cage like she did with Johnny Cage and Smoke in MK9 and so on.
Why does Kombat Kids sound like an amazing Saturday morning cartoon now that I think about it?
Or a Virtua Fighter Kids-esque spin-off.
@@The4thSnake Puzzle Kombat from Deception did look a bit like VF Kids. Not half bad of a Puyo Puyo clone IIRC.
Oh no! Looks like our world invaders have shown up! Kombat Kids we need you! *Theme song starts*
Why am I now thinking of Cooking with Scorpion?
@@ItsButterBean1020 Chopping, Chopping, Cake Decorating, and Chopping
It’s so strange and ironic that the kids have more personality in their interaction dialogues then in the actual story.
Welcome to Netherrealm Writing 101.
Cassie feels like a totally different person in her versus quotes, I had to wonder what happened. Jacqui too.
@@The4thSnake shut
@@Litfus3 Which way?
@@Litfus3 okay. Shut?
Cassie - A combination of two previous characters (Johnny and Sonya) with Mommy issues.
Takeda - A combination of two previous characters (Scorpion and Kenshi) with daddy issues.
Kung Jin - A repeated archetype of two previous characters (Liu Kang and Kung Lao) with older cousin issues.
Jacqui - Litterally just the younger girl version of Jax. Thats it.
Jaqui: a second gen knock off.
@@trafikantes4204 Cassie Cage a red bitch
Cassie and Jacqui have the blandest military outfits and their attacks are watered down version of their parents. They have so little personality that NRS should had made them one character.
@@Noperare so can tell Mr. Boon that we don't want these characters?
@@Noperare I just wished they hurry up and kill them of I don't any of the new characters
father/daughter - nutcracker combo would be glorios
I can't imagine how he reacted when he knew Kung jin wasn't even in the roster of mk11
He wasn't happy.
"Kung will have a big fight with Lao in the next game. I have faith in Netherrealm."
*kung jin absent in mk11*
WELL THEN
Wow, Jin and Takeda have such an interesting plot potential. Can not wait to see how they utilize it in MK 11
💀
pain
hahahahah
Imagine hyping up four of the next generation of new characters you made and only including two of them in the sequel game while not even making the other two as DLC and leaving their story potential largely untapped and underutilized.
This comment aged like milk.
I’m just gonna pretend this video is canon because it’s better than the actual story.
@@reds3a374 very ironic that so official make lot of fanfic than themselves.
@@reds3a374This really aged bad now
"they can't possibly miss this glaringly obvious conflict twice in a row"
-Jin isn't even in mk11
“Fucking Clownshoes”
Mkx: you love your old characters?
Yes
Mkx: well we'll kill them off.
Please don't
Mkx: and replace them with characters who aren't even that good.
Awhh:(
Mkx: and not even do anything good with them
Awhhhh
@Web Head it's rushed as fuhk
History repeating itself perhaps?
@Ultimate Hedgehog Jaqui is garbage
@Ultimate Hedgehog those characters are nothing compared to Kabal noob saibot smoke and rain
@Ultimate Hedgehog Stryker is good better than Cassie cage and Jacqui briggs
"Jin to have a big fight against Lao"
"They can't miss this glaringly obvious conflict twice in a row"
Ha...ha....well those statements aged like milk
Had to make room for Kollecter
@@doggosho3044 best character NRS has ever made *wink wink nudge nudge* dvorah
had to make room for cetrion
@@doggosho3044I’d gladly have d,vorah and kollecter gone to make room for takeda and kung Jin
I hate how this game got everyone's power level wrong
What, you don't think an Elder God would lose to a 19 year old girl who can't fight to save her life? Bro, you just don't get real life.
@@The4thSnake lmfao
There is no power levels in MK Raiden has been fighting Shinnok for years and he is just a lower God.
It's only continuing what was in at most MK9, since Stryker of all people managed to defeat Milena, Kintaro and Ermac, back to back.
@ Lukmendes: maybe he's just a really good cop lol
"they're not that brain dead right... right?"
oh the innocence of youth.
Again - Why hasn't NetherRealm added you to the writing staff?
J H Why has Netherrealm haven't actually gotten a writing team
@@anonymousanonymously5439 Fair enough.
Ikr, He could have saved the whole franchise 😎
Shes literly just female jax. At least the others have more going on
lol its easy to make videos like this after the fact. hindsight right,
if he is as great as you think, he should make videos
telling where the story should go before the next game comes out.
other then that, it's real easy to say they should done this or that lol
Yeah if the character arcs played out this way the overall story would be far more satisfying.
The Father/Daughter Nutcracker should be treated with the same reverence as the Father/Son Kamehameha.
I loved Takeda, It's a shame he isn't in MK11 despite arguably being the deadliest kombat kid considering who he is trained by.
"I'm going to assume that Netherrealm is planning on Kung Jin having a big fight with Kang and Lao next time."
Oh..
Poor man.
Sometimes, I really do give them too much credit.
At least they made Cassie Cage adorable. Seriously, I love MK11 Cassie. The only thing they did right in my opinion.
I remember in MK 9, Liu Kang had a playable fight against Shao Kahn long after his chapter had already been over. Why they don’t do that more often I’ll never know. Maybe the people in charge of putting these story modes together are more slaves to order and structure than Hotaru is.
Here's an even better idea for the final chapters: After your proposed Legacy chapter, have an entire 4 battle chapter dedicated to fighting Corrupted Shinnok, but have it transition between all of the Kombat Kids, with the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd battles carrying Shinnok's health bar from battle to battle. Essentially, just make it a 4v1 tag team battle against a much more powerful Corrupted Shinnok. That would actually make him somewhat of a threat - all 4 Kombat Kids fighting him at the same time and they still barely win.
That's not a bad idea.
This is a common thread I've seen in many things I like, educated fans will always come up with a better story and setting and ideas than the developers themselves.
I don’t like how we don’t even know who kung jins parents are
In my opinion. Takeda is the best newcomer. Jacqui is too bland. She need a better outfit. Kung jin is aight. But his attitude. And cassie is just a combination of her parents. Aint nothimg qrong with it. Just a little cringe
NICC NICC I hear the mumbling, I hear the cackling
Kung Jin’s attitude is like that Cause he’s supposed to be that cliche sassy gay guy that had a troubled childhood and no one cared about
@@EvangelistAidan Let's hope they improve the characters, though I doubt it.
I wouldn’t say she’s cringe, just kind of annoying. I don’t really like either of her parents, especially Johnny, though so I’m biased.
@@illwill1991 jin's character is better in match dialogues than in the main story. Takeda was the best because he had the best plot for the main story plus an okay dialogue.
I was more than prepared to hate the Kombat Kids, so when I ended up actually liking them, the anticipation of feeling the opposite way probably amplified that somewhat.
... dude, can't you go work for netherrealms? no seriously, go work as a scripter for the scenography of MK story. DO IT. IT'S YOUR DESTINY.
Flash forward almost a month away from MK11 and only half of the kombat kids have returned as they’re Cassie and Jacqui
I don't like Jacqui Briggs that much Cuz her character design is just very boring as all hell. She like has one of the most Bland and uninspired design for a character ever
Miss Nesha Wow; she looks badass in those! And the bland looking one is the one we got?
@Miss Nesha The last three are fucking awesome, what a bummer
All Light imagine having pride in being racist.
@@RichRichification As much as I agree with you I feel like pretty much everyone faps to hentai.
Right?
@Ero Princess the fuck? See I think I get the core problem with the Kombat Kids now. They have absolutely nothing to help them stand out from their parents. Jacqui is Jax... but with tits. I get that Jax was the man's man of the group but does that mean that Jacqui also has to be the man's man of the group? Because those designs are great. Beautiful but dangerous. Which I imagine that's what Jacqui is supposed to be. Instead we got the most unseasoned character in the cast with a character arc that can be written on a fortune cookie.
As much as I love this idea of yours for the Kombat kids, I think I preffer your MKX wasted plotential video more. Like you said, Cassie was just getting onwed through the story mode and then suddenly she has the power to defeat a freaking a powered up Elder God in the last minute...Yeah, no. Even Raiden, the Thunder God, who got possessed by the fucking Elder Gods had trouble beating Shao Kahn, and Kahn wasn't even in a "super" form for crying out loud.
Should have been Liu Kang or another veteran character like you said. Hell, if they pulled a MK Mythologies and made Kuai Liang beat Shinnok like Bi Han did, I'd be damn happy.
esspecially considering the fact that sub zero did nothing in the games story mode despite being one of netherrealms mascots
@@welchrebooted4739 to me it feels like sz is a lot less of a mascot than he ever has been. He doesn't do anything in the stories and he's just unloved by the creator. He feels borderline jobber
A legacy chapter really would've made it amazing...
You play as the next gen, all 4 of them would really seal the deal that they ARE the next generation.
What kills me that only Cassie and Jacqui was in mk 11 😭 wtf happened to Takeda and Kung Jin?
Takeda has at least gottenn hinted at in dialogues Kung Jin is just gone entirely
@@Ashbringer36 Dunno if you already know this, but if I recall, I think that KJ's mention in one of Kung Lao's dialogues with Raiden
@@ichangedidk9097 I didn’t hear that one but I didn’t watch the Kung Lao interactions video so I could have missed it, it was certainly a lot harder to spot then the half dozen Takeda references between the Brigg’s and Scorpion talking about him to the fact he pops up in at least 2 character endings (Shao Khan and Cetrion)
@@Ashbringer36 Oh yeah. And I think that he (Kung Jin) was also mentioned in one of Kabal's interactions with KK, but damn. That must've been a lot of references to Takeda
I was really hoping takeda was in kombat pack
Yeah... MKX was good, but this video made some very valid points and would've made a better plot.
After MK11 i completely forgot these Kombat Kids existed
Especially since now for some reason Jin is now Laos nephew. WTF
4th Snake: "They can't possibly miss out on such an obvious match twice right, right?"
Me post mk11: weeeeeeellll... I mean
I'm so glad I found your channel. Watching your MK wasted plotential videos really makes me wonder why the writing team keep wasting good characters.
When I hear Kombat kids, I think of the video when everyone plays hide and seek and then they all kill each other lol.
the one done in South Park animation style? yeah, have been waiting for ages for a sequel to that!:)
I forgot about that
What vid?
This man became freaking Oracle towards the end
Mate, you should honestly possess the intellectual rights to this franchise.
If only.
No section on takeda proves that he is perfect
another great video!
you mentioned the pre-fight banter. I'm certain all of it was written by completely different people than those who wrote the story-mode. these exchanges show that the people behind them know the lore and understand the characters. and the versions of many of them are better that the canonical ones! (non-revenant Liu being arrogant 'cause his winning streak finally got into his head, Lao having conquered his revenant side through internal struggle but other characters not trusting him still 'cause of his long absense, some insights into what has Erron Black seen during his long life... great stuff!)
I don't trust in NR's competence to continue some of these plotlines, but damn, even this botched to hell plot has potential if the right preson is writing it. shame you're not their head writer, really mean it:)
Right, while I enjoyed it, here's where MK X really fell apart. This is my personal "wasted plotential" if you will.
Kombat Kids consist of:
Cassie
Kung Jin
Takeda
*Frost*
I feel there wasn't too much to Jacqui in terms of her character, she was just an army brat and not much was said about her and Jax other than that one moment where Jin was being a dick.
Frost and Takeda having a romance would also have that Romeo and Juliet essence (overdone sometimes okay) but this further strengthens the bond between the reformed Lin Kuei and Shirai Ryu.
I agree Kung Jin should have come face to face with Kung Lao - both of their arcade ladder endings show it so there was no reason to not have it in the story mode and develop both of their characters further.
Cassie depended on Jacqui a lot for character development, but at least she has the two of her parents and their divorce to use as a basis rather than just Jax. As stated in the video there could have been a training flashback but I feel this would be too similar to Takeda's fight with Scorpion. Cassie rescuing Johnny from D'Vorah could still remain but I wouldn't have her defeat Shinnok, she's not an established kombatant just yet.
I feel the game could have been more focused on the two clans - Scorpion enacts his revenge on Quan Chi but then he decides to call it quits then after Shinnok was release in front of his face? Sub-Zero shows up at the end with the Lin Kuei only to force the Osh-Tekk into retreat, but then contributes nothing against the revenants and Shinnok? I feel Sub-Zero or Scorpion could have fought Shinnok and been the hero, rather than just leaving to the Kombat Kids to fight five revenants plus Shinnok and D'Vorah.
This was all just on the spot but I reckon with some adjustments it could have been far better than what it was.
It's definitely an improvement. At least, they should have held off the revenants with their forces.
Well from what I heard Takeda and Jin are not on MK11’s roaster, so NRS did miss this obvious conflict.
I mean Takeda/Jin could make appearances in the Story Mode
It's funny watching this video after MK11, where Kung Jin is MIA.
Instead of letting Cassie beat Shinnok, it should be more like Cassie buying time for Johnny to finally break free and recuperate before Johnny beating him. Also, what's that crap about Johnny never being able to access his green powers, but in his moves, there is a yellow mode that allows him to create shadow clones that fight on his behalf. If anything, it should be more like Johnny keeping his powers, but over time it evolved to red, which has more offense and by the climax, he should've had access to his yellow form, in which he can create shadow clones.
*"They can't possibly miss this glaringly obvious conflict, right? Right??"*
Oh boy were you wrong
.Thank you! I hate how the main villains end up looking like chumps
I find it weird that I like every new addition to the Outerworld side, but I disliked all of the new character's on Earthrealm's side. Kung Jin is interesting as a character, but he has huge shows to fill in, while the other 2 just feel so underwhelming I won't bother mentioning and Cassie is cocky 19 y/o girl who takes the worst of her parents, with a flat arc that culminates in her defeating a literal god because why the hell not.
All in all, the feeling I get is that the Earth's new gen of characters seem almost disrespectful to the main cast, while the "villains" don't try to rob other's place, but compliment them and cooperate (aside from Baraka, he did not deserve that death).
The only character l liked out all of the new gen mk characters is tekeda
7:54 - 8:04
Yeeaaaaaah, about that...
I think the four of them will get used more in MK11. MKX was used to introduce them to the world. Can't do everything at once.
Lol
Oh boy, this didn’t age well at all lol
LMAO
It's funny how people usually ship straight characters with characters of the same gender, but then Kung jin, the only gay character in the frenchise (or at least the only one I can remember) is put with Cassie
Lol
Mileena and Tanya are lesbian
@@nikkiholdmeier7678 i don't think it was ever confirmed i think NR just hinted that they have something going on and plus Mileena has fucked Goro and maybe Reiko and Baraka
@@korallebrutalis6713 Mileena likes guys and girls
@@chrysoz9031 yeah
Netherrealm should've waited another game until introducing this next generation. These 2nd gen characters kinda suck
The MKX story sucks in general
1.) They were objectively bad at their jobs.
2.) The Cage powers were never able to defeat anyone above Baraka now they can defeat an Elder God.
3.) Why would Lao and Liu Kang care about Jin being gay if Raiden was okay with it? That would be like Jesus saying it's ok and priests still giving gets shit about it.
4.) Jin and Takeda are Asians raised in Asian cultures, Jax is pretty ethnic yet all four sound like suburban white kids.
I think the kombat kids were wasted characters,
every time I see siblings or parent with child characters, or even cousins #DragonAge I find it half assed and that they should have made completely unique characters.
Petition to get this man to be a mk writer?
"Scooby-focking-doo"
This was solid. I would've enjoyed the Kombat Kids more if this were the story.
Nice work as always, the4thSnake.
Thank you.
Great video man. Every time I watch one of these videos it makes me want to play the game you're talking about. I've never really been into MK but I might have to load up a game just to scratch this itch.
(You're not missing much from NRS games.)
I appreciate that you care.
Finally a video like this that doesn't feel like someone complianing
Jade confirmed for mk11
Honesty like seeing these videos! Some very interesting concepts for stories like this
Thank you. There's more on the way.
Boy, he was wrong. Jin wasnt even in mk11 let alone fight Kung Lao or Liu Kang
7:50 boy did this age badly...
Lol yeah
You... should’ve been at the storyboard meeting. Man this sounds way better!
Legacy shouldve been a chapter shared by all the Kombat Kids. The kungs face off as you say, Cassie has a buildup to her powers manifesting this time, Jacquie enraged by devorah attacks her (doing what you said), while Takeda fights Smoke who brings up points about hime possibly feeling insufficient to the Shirai Ryu and his father.
Why do you keep writing better story’s than netherrealm studios? Seriously I fucking love them.
Because I can.
The4thSnake sorry man I worded this wrong. I meant to say I love your story’s over neatherrealm studios stories. My bad.
Oh no, I knew what you meant. My response was intended as a joke.
The4thSnake oh shit lol. You had me worried. Good shit though man. Your content is amazing.
Takeda and Jin are the ones to bring reelevance to the kids
Jin was probably my favourite of the Kombat kids so the fact he was one of 3 new characters skipped over for MK11 is insulting.
I think scorpion should maybe have a child, but he's afraid to let the child be a shiray ryu, because of what happened to his previous family
@NocturneArchunterKellianth he's a good looking guy, im sure he can make another
@NocturneArchunterKellianth ok. It changes nothing from my idea,
So if they do fanfiction kids, why not go further? Why not give mileena a cloned son that will betray her and be with kotal khan, that will keep people in outworld who were loyal to shao khan loyal to him because the grandson of shao khan is with him, maybe kano will have a young second in command?
That trilogy smoke killlllllllled me omg 😂
Honestly I wish they had simply made the original Armageddon plan canon, and continued from there. Everyone dies at Armageddon, Taven wins and saves the multiverse, then the new generation of games all take place after it with new characters and new fights. Some things could come back, its not like Shinnok went anywhere, but for the most part its all new characters solving new problems through beating each other to death. And then D'Vorrah could kill anyone she wants because its not like shes taking on people with established legendary status and fanbases. And they wouldnt have to worry about getting old characters so horribly wrong.
I despised Kung Jin’s character if he never talked he would’ve been great but that arrogance man I just can’t
J wall Agreed. It’s a shame, really. He was intolerable.
He's great in battle dialogue sequences!
But everyone is there...
And Kung Jin doesn't even appear in the next game..
Wow NRS, just wow.
I love the Kombat Kids but I like your idea a lot more than what was done with them.
Neatherrelms NEEEEDS YOU
Since Sub Zero chapter was about Kuai Liang pointing out the Kombat Kids flaws and saying they need to learn to work as team, make much more sense for the final chapter to be about all of them instead of just Cassie.
I hope netherrealm can take note of these vids n write something great.
I hated these cringy characters.
So. Fucking. Much... especially Cassie
Esme Calizo Has I’m glad someone agrees!
Man I hate cassie with her cheesy ass attitude and comebacks
Lmao too bad Cassie will be back in MK11 😘
Adding new generation characters is a big mistake.
Cant wait to come home and watch it. Also i hope to see mk comic critique video in near future!
i am from the future they do waste it
I hate MKX because of these "combat kids". Mortal kombat didn't need new characters,especially not these annoying children.
Right? RIGHT?!
I wouldn't be so sure. Though the fact they didn't showcase MK11 on E3 gives me hope that they actually take their time to hire a competent writer instead of giving their janitor write the story in overtime. Also if they leave Jade out of the game again without explanation or don't include Fujin and Rain in the main roster it will be difficult to convince me to grab MK11.
I mean why did they bother to include Fujin, make model to him, give him voice lines, showcase his powers, make him pretty cool and badass... and then never mention him again after chapter one?! Not only it's counter productive but also feels like trolling from NRS. Bad kind of trolling.
If it shows up at the Game Awards that are coming up within the week then we shall see
It's being written by Kittleson who wrote the comics (Which were pretty solid) so I'd say it's in good hand but that depends.
Why has Johnny fucking Cage and his family suddenly become the center of the entire MK universe?
It's like making Dan Hibiki the protagonist of Street Fighter VI
"They're not that braindead right?"
KUNG JIN WASNT EVEN IN THE FUCKING GAME
Everyone knows corrupted shinnok is weaker than base shinnok
5:46 "Reality is often disappointing."
I don't like any of the new characters but Erron Black
This makes me worried for Mk11, hopefully the story is good
Same.
Oh boy this plotline wasnt followed in mk11 at all
I’m thankful in mk11 ms Briggs and cage in mk11 seem to be a much better characters. Jacqui Briggs has a much better design and the characters don’t seem just like younger versions of their parents.
You need to ask Ed boon if you can make a mk game
the only thing I am getting from this, is that they need to drop the character-specific chapters completely and go full SFV when it comes to the use of characters in the story. The way MK is doing it now is eh. (not saying the sfv story is good, but the use of non-character specific chapters was a good choice on capcom's part)
The story is bad. The structure of the mode is probably the best one out there so far.
@@The4thSnake Do you mean MKX or SFV?
SFV, of course. MKX is trash.
poor snake had Faith they wont make the same mistake twice with kung lao and jin and then they didn't even out jin in the next game
Wow you should be a writer
What do you think of an episode of Wasted Plotential about The Chaosrealm and The Order realm? Think about it, ever since Armageddon, the games have NEVER mentioned these two realms, only the comics with Havik, and those aren't even canon, so... What the hell happened to the realms, also, we need more characters in the realms, especially in the Chaos Realm.
8:03 i actually started crying
Smoke at 3:09 was the best thing I've seen all day!