Hi fellows! Here is Arthur Steagall Condé from Sao Paulo. My great great grandfather was Henry Farrar Steagall, 2nd Liutennant who fought many battles under Stonewall Jackson's command
"Hi fellows! Here is Arthur Steagall Condé from São Paulo. My great-great-grandfather was Henry Farrar Steagall, 2nd Lieutenant who fought many battles under Stonewall Jackson's command." Acabei de remover este trecho de um comentário em um vídeo na internet sobre os confederados. Particularmente, repudio com veemência as práticas deste grupo e o acho obsoleto, retrógrado e violento. Agora, sobre as pessoas mencionadas no trecho: Stonewall Jackson (Thomas Jonathan Jackson): Foi um dos generais mais renomados do Exército Confederado durante a Guerra Civil Americana (1861-1865). Ele ficou conhecido por sua tática militar audaciosa e pelo sucesso em várias batalhas, especialmente na Primeira Batalha de Bull Run, onde ganhou o apelido "Stonewall" (muralha de pedra). Jackson era extremamente respeitado pelos seus soldados e tornou-se um símbolo dos esforços confederados. No entanto, ele lutava em defesa de um regime que buscava preservar a escravidão. Henry Farrar Steagall: Não encontrei registros históricos de alguém com esse nome servindo sob o comando de Stonewall Jackson.
They were very grateful for our country accept them and most principal of SP never felt superior Than any Brazilian, I know well because family is part Tuscan, but this did not happen with the anglos and germanics, all of them wanted to created their country in our country.
Rita Lee, one of the most important singers in Brazil, is a descendant of a Confederate family and her surname Lee is a tribute to General Robert Lee. Until recently, one of the ministers of the Supreme Federal Court was also a descendant of a Confederate family, Ellen Gracie Northfleet.
@@JustLifeTravels Rita Lee was a direct descendant of William Hutchinson Norris, Alabama State Senator and Confederate Colonel who founded the municipality of Santa Bárbara in Brazil. She was one of the founders of the mythological psychedelic rock band of the 1960s: Os Mutantes.
Informação completamente ERRADA , o pai dela era um imigrante americano do inicio do sec 20 e era descendente de indios norte americanos o nome lee segundo ela foi um nome que a familia do pai dela adotou....😂 @@barbaraaraujo7700
@@marcorodrigues1331 Não diria que a fase progressiva dos Mutantes seria "lixo". Acho apenas chata e cópia do que era feito lá fora, ao contrário da fase psicodélica que era rica, interessante e tinha sua singularidade, apesar de ser baseada na psicodelia britânica e americana.
“A man who came down here who wanted nothing but a simple life in the agricultural business” that’s an interesting way to say he wanted to enslave people. 7:56
@@JustLifeTravels You didn’t say that as a joke unless this whole video is satirical. You’re trying to romanticize a part of American culture that was literally created to continue to enslave people dude. They lost a war about slavery and moved to one of the last places in the Americas where they could continue to enslave people. That’s all types of messed up and you’re just like, “Here lies my confederado brethren that just wanted a simple life in the agricultural business” lmao
My great grandfather was a lieutenant colonel in the confederate army. He's buried in Texas with a headstone paid for by the US government, inscription reads "Respected foe, gentle soul, a gentleman always. With respect, US Calvary". He died in 1892, and was given a military funeral with honors due to his protecting Union prisoners from abuse.
That’s wonderful. I lived in Brazil (Parana) a couple years but never saw that place. I’m a proud descendant of confederate soldiers. I also love Brazil and the South.
Preserving history and worshipping it are two different things we should definitely be educated on what happened in the past good and bad but there are those that want the “good ol days” to come back and those days unfortunately weren’t so good for all races and backgrounds
Cultural festivals like they hold here are common around the world, also most people living in the area are in some part black or have immigrated from Italy since the end of slavery so in Brazil i think that doesn’t exist at all.
These are actual Americans great great grandfather's. They aren't just historical figures. This is why Southerners get upset when people talk badly about them because you are talking about actual peoples ancestors
@@Willowtree82 what you just said makes absolutely no sense of course its someone’s ancestor, but that doesn’t take away from things done, if my ancestors had been some radical pro violence African American I’d have to accept that and know that people would say some negative things about what they did, same should go for confederates and their decedents a lot of negativity attached to confederates unfortunately and it’s history but again preserving history teaching the truth but not worshipping or giving them praise is the difference, Germany teaches the holocaust but doesn’t praise hitler or the nazis
bro what is joe talking about at 12:55, cathedrals like that ARE common in Brazil. We're a portuguese colony for god's sake! We have so many huge and beautiful cathedrals in the historic center of Rio de Janeiro for example, and also at most state capitals around the country. We even have a very touristy catholic city in São Paulo called Aparecida
He was talking about the fact that there's not a lot of churches in neoclassic style here in Brazil. In fact, I think this one is the only one I remember had seen. He is right, you clearly misunderstood him.
@@AlexandreLimberger Nope. It's common in most state capitals around the country, specifically the older ones. pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Arquitetura_neocl%C3%A1ssica_no_Brasil
@@Furyy07 An important, VERY important detail:- Brazil was NOT a Portuguese colony... In the time of the Empire, before the Independence, there WAS NOT a distinction between anyone born in Brazil or in Portugal... It was AN UNITED KINGDOM..... The word colony was introduced later for political discourse reasons.... This word, colony, is a latecomer that beguiles the political reality of Dom João IV and Dom Pedro I before the Independence...
Very interesting history. A slight correction. Neither Catholics or Orthodox Christians have idols in their churches they are sacred images of Christ or holy men and women, and they are not worshiped. While Protestants have increased , Brazil has the highest numbers of Catholics in South America. They are part of the 1.5 billion members of the Catholic Church which continues to grow throughout the world.. while the number of protestants continue to decrease worldwide, including the Baptists.
We are specifically referring to Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make any graven images, or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth" Leviticus 26:1 "You shall make you no idols, neither shall you rear you up a graven image, or a pillar, neither shall you place any figured stone in your land, to bow down unto it" Deuteronomy 4:16 "You shall not make you any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters beneath the earth"
@ The Hebrew scriptures prohibition against the making graven images specifically dealt with the worship of the false gods of the canaanites. God Himself commanded Moses to make an image of the cherubim and set it on the ark of the covenant. God commanded Moses to make an image of the serpent and set it on a pole so that the Israelites would look upon it and be healed. God does not contradict himself. Therefore, the difficulty is with the interpretation and application of the scriptural text which is the main problem with Protestantism.
So they migrated to Brazil in 1866, after the Civil War, and some brought slaves with them? How did they do that after the slaves were freed? Did the slaves come willingly?
It’s possible that they did, most slaves would have been purchased in Brazil but there are several records that indicate that many older former slaves wished they didn’t have to be free. That is very much a minority of the cases but there were some slaves that did prefer it for one reason or another.
I "love" how every one complains about a symbol that they believe to be morally wrong, with little to no knowledge or willingness to honor our history. For instance, the Georgia state flag was changed just as this was. It previously displayed portions of the confederate battle flag. The current state flag just replaced the confederate battle flag with the actual Confederate States of America flag. Everyone quite complaining.
Yeah the people who complain about the confederate flag tend to be the least educated group about American history in general and don’t really understand any of the symbolism behind anything in this country. They just see something, believe a random idea of its meaning they were told and that’s it.
Well, instead of complaining, I'd like to take this chance to make it a learning moment. We can see, that if the south was uninterrupted, it's still only about as productive as an agrarian society. Don't see any slaves, though he said some were originally brought over, where are they? Looks like the south just went further south, to just die some more. Not very impressive. Looks like your typical southern town, abandoned.
The fastest growing states in the USA are the south, people are fleeing New York, California and several other northern states to go to places like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, the Carolina’s. Black Americans are moving in massive numbers to the Atlanta metro. Your point about southern towns being abandoned is pretty hilarious. You are here to make irrelevant points and that’s fine feel free. Honoring peoples history is not an endorsement of their beliefs. If I visit Roman monuments that does not mean I support gladiatorial combat and by leaving up the coliseum and being against ripping it down also does not mean I endorse it.
Nice video! Tks for sharing. I'm Brazilian, and we had little idea of the civil war in America. There was a tv series here in the 80's, called "Os gatões", or "The Dukes of Hazard", that showed a wonderful 1969 Dodge charger, but, it had that flag, that is now forbidden. I read a lot about the matter and now it is more clear to me. There is another city in the state of SP called Santa Barbara d'Oeste that also received iimmigrants from this war.
Well you idiots don’t even use the right flag…. That’s not the stars and bars that’s the battle flag! Which was made after due to the confusion in having similar flags on opposing sides
@@JustLifeTravelsAdolf’s Germany lasted longer than the Confederacy. Just because some people in our past were misguided and tried to keep it alive doesn’t make it ok. But at the end of the day, it’s your right to say and display what you wish as a private citizen, but as private citizen, I’ll express as many others will that we believe it’s distasteful.
Hardly anyone knows about this chapter in America,, it is history, I'm glad the guys recognized the "battle flag of northern Virginia", it was barely flown in the civil war,, Hollywood made the flag popular and was in every civil war movie and the Dukes of Hazzard adapted the paint scheme of the gen Lee was in fact Dodge put out in 1969 not the t.v. show. Great video, I really enjoyed it!!👍👍
I live in a town roughly 30 km from Americana, here in the state of São Paulo. People make fun of the accent of the inhabitants of Americana and the surrounding cities, and that's because they speak Portuguese with an English intonation. This documentary was so informative. Thanks guys.
That’s cool, makes sense with him being southern himself. I’m also from the south so for me it was cool to see a piece of a specific American culture in such a foreign place.
@@edwardamosbrandwein3583 Not many Welsh immigrants at the time of the Civil War, but there would have been very large numbers of Welsh descendants. Welsh surnames are extremely common everywhere in the South. Most such immigrants were probably already living in other parts of the UK when they embarked.
I liked so much of this vídeo, I was born and still living in Americana. I am so proud of this story, the Americans brought the cotton and the industrie, it was very important to the City development, unfortunately the English has not been spoken anymore here, I also like to tell this story to my friends. Keep going guys, you will always welcome in Americana.
Southerners know. I take it you aren't Southern? It's amazing how the war in the US is taught differently in the non Southern states. Did you know the monuments and the bases that were named after confederates majority were gifted by the US government during reconstruction as a way to recognize them as American veterans, many whose families secured the country from the English crown
Conheci essa História de Americana. É muito importante. O sotaque de vocês soa muito mais fácil para eu entender. Slow English. Parabéns pelo trabalho.
As a 54 y/o woman, it's refreshing to know there are still young men like you who can appreciate our history. Too many young people are just just so left in their ideology. I thought you all were extinct! 🙂
No. They left the Imperial federal government of Lincoln to escape the Zimbabwe level kleptocracies of the Reconstruction era military dictatorships, rampant crime and complete looting of private property by the "víctors" of a completely unnecessary war. Stop lying.
It would’ve been cool to hear from more locals, see how they look different from Portuguese-descended Brazilians, or hear the differences in dialect being that their ancestors came from the American South.
Fully agree I wish we could have found some, but the original population who founded it has been outnumbered by immigrants mainly from Italy aswell as having mixed with other Brazilians and lost their identity or moved to other areas of Brazil.
Very, very, very interesting! I knew about the migration of Confederates to Brazil, but I knew no details about it - AT ALL! Brazil is a true "metling pot" where past identities have been replaced by national identity. The U.S. has done just the reverse with nationalistic and racial identity becoming the dominate identifier. We are a nation of "tribes" today more than ever before and will be even more so in the future. I subscribed.
Brazilian national identity is a unifying concept, but many people in the South and Southeast of Brazil, regions where there has been a lot of immigration, still identify themselves by their ethnicity, as in the USA, such as Italian-Brazilians, Japanese-Brazilians and German-Brazilians.
"Leftists" and "leave peacefull people alone" never works in the same sentence. It was all fine with black people happy in the parties untill these "woke" folks start the drama. Noisy, useless minority trying to import 1st world nonsensical problems to a country with so many real ones.
Yes. People should preserve history no matter how horrible certain points of history were. Also, I don’t think that confederate flag should’ve been taken down. It’s a part of history and the origin of that place.
The Confederacy fought for limited goverment (states rights) and limited taxation. Yankees fought for Rail road robber Barrons and tax rebellion. Yankees need to apologize to Dixieland.
Nothing wrong with the confederates ! The north was the one in the wrong Look now all the zoo beasts are let loose ?? A real circus American has become
That’s very true, we actually made a video in Nigeria and the place they kept slaves there was actually named after Brazil because so many were sent there specifically.
I truly hope that I misread the signals and that you guys are fair minded and good guys. You’re so young and you have presents and can make a difference. I’m rooting for you.
The rectangular version of the battle flag first appeared in January 1864 and was commissioned by Gen. Joseph Johnston. It was the battle flag of the Army of Tennessee.
"Sancto Antonio Hujus Civitatis Patrono". I think it means "Saint Anthony is the patron of this city". Known as Saint Anthony of Padua, Italy, he was born in Lisbon, Portugal. The church was built by italian immigrants though. Although a believer, I'm not religious, but I love visiting cathedrals and other beautiful, intricate buildings. I visited Almudena in Madrid, some in Toledo I forgot, Sagrada Familia in Barcelona (outside only, too much trouble to get in), Notre Dame de la Garde in Marseille (missed La Major though), San Lorenzo in Genova, Mosta Dome in Malta, and Palma Cathedral in Mallorca...but I NEVER, ever visited this beautiful cathedral that is literally 8min drive from me. Shameful, lol This was the first time I saw it from inside and I'll definitely gonna visit it now, so thank you for reminding me how much of a fool I am.
Glad we could get you to swing by! It’s like that for me too, I’ll love next to some tourist attraction and tell myself I can go anytime and then end up never going. We always try to visit cathedrals whenever we get the chance, you’ll see a lot of them in our videos especially in Catholic or other Christian countries. In the Mexico videos we have made there are tons
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The American flag (stars and stripes) was the flag of the anti-bellum south for eighty years before slavery ended.
My ancestry is Austrian. Both my brothers were born in Innsbruck. Dad was born in Graz. I was born here in Chicago. We have lived here since the early 1970s. With all of that said I would ask you: is that the Brazilian English accent?
I watched a video these days of two other american youtubers about the same topic and they managed to interview briefly one or two people related to confederate acestry, will try to find out in my history list and post it here.
Howdy. There is a Ghanian word, Sankofa, the literal translation of the word is “it is not taboo to fetch what is at risk of being left behind.” Meaning it is important to know your history so you are not destined to repeat it. So yes, it is true that you should not forget your history, history should also not be used as a weapon of hate. Consider this, no one cared about the battle flag until the KKK started using it. In history, every time the battle flag has come to the forefront of conversations it has been because it was used as a tool/symbol of hate. Starting with "The Birth of a Nation; 1915, Bloody Summer; 1919, Tulsa massacre, 1921 and the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s. We should remember the horrific parts of the past as a teacher not honor it. In my opinion, their flag is a place of honor. So yes it was valid to remove the image of the battle flag, from their flag. Side note a cool thing about some of those Confederado descendants is they still carry a slight southern accent and cook “southern” style food like fried chicken and corn bread.
Evangelical Protestantism is actually on the rise all across Brazil and is getting many converts so, even if there wasn’t before there certainly is now. But that is a very interesting question to know how much it spread from the original group of Americans who moved down.
@@JustLifeTravels Baptist and Presbyterian churches exist in all regions of Brazil (in small and large cities), including in the Northeast region, the most Catholic and poor region. Most of them were founded by American missionaries in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s.
Brazil for sure if you mean overall, the individuals in Brazil are mostly racially mixed between natives, blacks and whites as well of course as the Asian population that is especially noticeable in São Paulo
Correction to what u said... the statues are not idols...they are representations (and reminders of the religious/historical person depicted) but RC are not praying to the actual statues.... I can see how that can be confusing to understand.
The greatest rock singer in Brazil rita lee descendant from a Confederate family and her surname was a tribute to General Lee. She were very famous and considered an icon in brazil. Unfortunately she passed away recently.
@@lucasmoretti9472 Yeah, Rita Lee Jones was a direct descendant of William Hutchinson Norris, Alabama State Senator and Confederate Colonel who founded the municipality of Santa Bárbara in Brazil. She was one of the founders of the mythological psychedelic rock band of the 1960s: Os Mutantes.
Yes many Nazis also fled Europe post wwii, plenty ended up in Brazil as well. South Brazil has and German speaking communities to this very day that existed far before the Nazis came so it was much easier for them to blend into society and there was no need to sound their own community there.
Deam this was uploaded only a month later then mine but it must have been filmed a the year before if you guys were there around Christmas. The immigration museum was neat, not that big but it was nice to give the video a little bit more different places instead of just the cemetery. Also who let you guys into the cemetery if you couldn't find any confederate dependents?
We just arrived when the grounds keeper was there by luck, he let us in. Yeah I wish we had gotten in to the museum. We released this way way after we initially filmed it, you are right it was around December.
@@JustLifeTravels Ahh makes sense though I'm pretty sure that the grounds keeper though he didn't speak English must've been a decedent as well. Nice to hear a response from you guys. and I know what it's like to have old footage laying around I've got a whole mountain of it and editing takes so much work, doesn't help how much of a perfectionist I am but I belief that the quality is worth the time investment
I found it astounding and disappointing that you didn't record all 4 sides of the monuments to look for my surname. Nor did you let us see the front interior of the church.
Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make any graven images, or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth"
The emperor and his family were expelled from Brazil after Princess Isabel decreed the end of slavery. So we went from an empire to a democracy and it never worked properly. Slave owners, owners of gold and diamond mines and also farmers did not want slavery to end and the emperor and his family were abolitionists.
Orthodox, Catholics, and Anglicans do not pray to “idols”. They pray to God. They venerate “honor” symbols such as the cross and holy icons to aid in worship of God.
We were looking for them, they are few and far between now a days it seems. The majority of people there are just regular Brazilians, who might be related by blood to the confederados but don’t know or care anymore. I think the best time to actually meet them would certainly be during the festival.
Yeah we didn’t even think about that but yes way way more Scottish people settled the south than Irish so it’s probably the case for most of those names.
Usually i would preserve dark history like the concentration camps in germany, but when you have festivals about the past, thats a different story. When i saw that these people were celebrating confederants where slavery was a good thing, everyman is not created equal, white supremacy, and no civil rights, i was at awe. Damn Brazilian Emperor Dom Pedro II. I hope one day they will shut that that dark history down for good and make it illegal to replicate anything from the confederants for these racist in the past.
Well interestingly enough Brazil had far far far more slaves than the entire USA did, your argument could just as easily be applied to all of Brazilian history prior to 1888 which is a full 23 years after the USA ended it. The festival is to honor the people who established that community. We have videos in Nigeria you are free to go and watch and they have statues built for the famous slave catchers from their communities who made their cities wealthy by capturing fellow black Africans to sell into slavery to whoever would pay the highest amount.
@JustLifeTravels My question was why are you CELEBRATING dark history where confederates thought slavery was a good thing, everyman not created equal, white supremacy, and no civil rights? You just made your argument weak trying to justify the celebration, saying brazil have a long history of slavery, confederates are honored, and some black people from Nigeria sold their own people. The confederates literally came to Brazil because slavery was not abolished so they can beat, "ape", and force people to do their bidding. It's like saying German nazis should celebrate their heritage like it's 1939-1944 before 1945, even though these people killed over 6 million jews during that time. Your the reason what's wrong with the world today with this backwords' evil thinking. I never said don't erase (cut statues down, forget about history, don't learn about civil rights and confederacy), but one thing I will not tolerate and most people would agree is the celebration of over 500 years of slavery.
@JustLifeTravels My question was why are you CELEBRATING dark history where confederates thought slavery was a good thing, everyman not created equal, white supremacy, and no civil rights? You just made your argument weak trying to justify the celebration, saying brazil have a long history of slavery, confederates are honored, and some black people from Nigeria sold their own people. The confederates literally came to Brazil because slavery was not abolished so they can beat, "ape", and force people to do their bidding. Its like saying German nazis should celebrate their heritage like it's 1939-1944 even though these people killed over 6 million jews. Also, i would never say get rid of history ( break the statue, tear the clothes, don't let it in the museum, dont teach it in history, etc), but the difference is your celebrating over 500 years of slavery like its some sort of festival in honor for the confederates which makes you a supporter of them.
@@gmilkboy504he said it’s celebrating the people who founded the place/community. It’s you who are putting your own connotation behind it, Which is fine. He answered your question, you just don’t like that he didn’t walk into your framed argument that you so nicely tried to set up for him.
@@Maynard-il1yj Iam not tricking anybody..... It's just why would you celebrate a tradition where its main reason of creation is to continue enslaving people which they have been for over 500 years, treat people less than ants, use people as clothing products, and try to make a race extinct. I just don't get it smh. You must believe in their philosophy trying to justify this monstrosity. You need to pray and have jesus in your life.
The American Civil War (April 12, 1861 - May 26, 1865; also known by other names) was a civil war in the United States between the Union[f] ("the North") and the Confederacy ("the South"), which was formed in 1861 by states that had seceded from the Union. The central conflict leading to war was a dispute over whether slavery should be permitted to expand into the western territories, leading to more slave states, or be prohibited from doing so, which many believed would place slavery on a course of ultimate extinction.[14][15]
Well the condefederaton was first before the Union. Look up, what is the name of the original US constitution. That would be the articles of Confederation
Great video very interesting. I believe that All History should be left as it is. If they come for one History. Next time they come for Your History! Remember China they Destroyed so much beautiful history that were good bad it did not matter. They destroyed as much as they could. They can Never get alot of it back! Thank you fellows Now Following you. God Bless.
Totally agree, it’s important to understand the mindsets of people historically and if your area ever valued a certain aspect of itself or person enough to memorialize them it’s good to preserve that and learn why.
Yes it's valid people who lived there didn't want that flag representing their city they made that decision I think you guys did a little too much "siding" if you will with the Confederates vs giving us the history of the city like we don't need your opinion of why or what they wanted "he wanted a simple farming life" we don't know what he wanted you have a tour guide shout out to him he was ready to work he got paid for pretty much accompanying you all
@@JustLifeTravels im a Libra I tend to be fair being honest I probably wouldn't mind you all leaning more towards the other side opinion wise but, the important thing is the history of the city. Imo it was left out or overlooked, facts on the city was what I was looking for. There were too many personal opinions for me the video wasn't very factual.
@@geneharris4953 I just gave my opinion is all. I can appreciate that they created the video. Im open to watching other content by them. I know if I don't like something I don't have to watch it. Thanks for defending them Now back to your regular scheduled program...
Believers really don't care how big or small the church building is. If the Holy Spirit is not present, I'm not really impressed even if it's laden with gold, silver and diamond. It's all trash without God's presence.
That’s a great question, but unfortunately in both Brazil and the USA it was very common not to mark slave graves at the time. I don’t know 100% for sure that is the case here in Americana Brazil but it is very possible, it would be a good addition to have it made into a historic site so people can see the full story of the cities history.
Yea got rid of the racist crest that show history of how the city was founded. Get rid of everyone’s idea of history, of how your community was founded. So people wanted to farm and be free from reconstruction, but people want that history to not exist. Those people are ignorant and always will be
The third guy with us is a friend of ours who is from Brazil and we were hanging out with but he did not know the history of the area so he was just hanging out while we told the history we had read about it and gave our opinions.
There were a few in the town working in restaurants that we checked out, but google says there is about 14.4% of the population identified as at least part black. In Brazil many people who identify as “white” also will have trace native and or black percents as well. Though many newer waves of migrants are full blooded European, especially Italians who are actually the majority in Americana now.
@@JustLifeTravels No one has “pure blood” in Europe, which is a continent that has been the scene of many invasions and miscegenation. Hitler was the one who wanted to exterminate them all and leave “only” a “race” considered pure and Aryan. All you have to do is take a DNA test to put all this talk to rest and realize that we are all from one race, the human race.
@@JustLifeTravels Sim, claro, mas acho que não foi muito relevante, pois ela mesma parece nunca ter falado muito a respeito além disso teve um estilo de vida bem diferente que a distanciava de tudo isso!
Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make any graven images, or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth"
Anglicans are iconoclast that reject the 7th Ecumenical Councils dogmatic teaching on iconostasis which only the Eastern Orthodox Church teaches. Anglican-"ism" is is a heresy
@@JustLifeTravels oh it’s not that I don’t like it. I live in town where the 37 North Carolina infantry battled the 17th Vermont infantry at the battle of Petersburg AND I’ve cleaned the national park where the battle of the crater was at. *Ich Leibe Geschichte lernen* I wanting videos on history on the time including South American and and Turko-ottoman history as well which in all intensive are involved in confederate American history. Am I saying anyone should be ashamed of who they are or who they are related to but I know where this conversation leads yes they where all saints
2:08 nice love how ya just blow past that little bit of information there 😂😂😂😂😂 right yes tell me more of this magical place. Mmm slaves you say? And where are their descendants? Were they ever reunited with their American families? Did they receive reparations from their slave masters?? I have a lot of questions buddy
Slavery continued for a time in Brazil and several decades later it came to an end, when it ended Brazil had a massive slave population that was now free far larger than any other country in history. A lot of the former slaves would establish communities on the outskirts of cities which would develop into the favelas of the modern day. They will have by now fully integrated into Afro Brazilian and pardo culture.
Race mixing is extremely common in Brazil today so during the honoring of the confederate settlers you will see many black looking people who may even be partially related to the slaves and the masters of the original community but I can’t say a specific person that I know for sure that is true for.
If you are interested, we actually did another video in Nigeria where the slave trade took many people from Africa to Brazil among other places. Lagos’s Slave Island (Nigeria) 🇳🇬 ua-cam.com/video/TQIGFZw9ziA/v-deo.html
You played with words, and you appear to be masking disrespect. This is my first time watching one of your videos. I’m beginning to think watching your videos may not be a meaningful and worthwhile use of my time. Hope you guys are better than you appear.
@@Laylow1212The moral compass of society has changed drastically throughout time. In those days it was believed by many that there was nothing wrong with slavery. It’s easy to criticize others for their wrongdoings but what is more important is to individually learn how to be more kind, compassionate and forgiving.
It’s similar to the hoards of Nazi’s that ran to Argentina to escape war crime prosecution and started their life there. Would a ‘celebration’ of Nazism with Swastika flags be ‘preserving history’?? Some things are best remembered but left in the past and not glorified, I am not seeing this come through in your video which is a shame
It's not. Limited government and limited taxation were the battle cries of the American Revolution and the War of Northern Aggression. The Germans engaged in a crusade agaisnt Bolshevism
If the Nazis built a community on their Nazi identity it would be, but because it’s a hypothetical no such thing unfortunately exists. Would be cool to see though. In Nigeria we have been to cities where they built statues to honor the greatest local slave catchers who made their villages so much money. It would also be bad to take those down. Feel free to watch those videos to see what I’m talking about
@@JustLifeTravels it’s really disappointing to hear you speak like this. Preservation of history is for textbooks and education to help people learn from past mistakes. It certainly does not come in a form of a festival glorifying dangerous ideologies. Please rethink what these symbol’s would be seen as by the victims of such atrocities. You say a celebration of nazism would be ‘cool to see’? Really? Would a victim of the holocaust think that’s cool? I think you are lacking maturity to talk about such issues if you think this would be cool to see. What a disgrace.
I think you are probably just too sensitive and emotional when addressing the issue which does not allow you to apply reason to it. That’s fine if you don’t understand the history or situation but others do so stop complaining, stop trying to destroy things and try to create something instead.
@@JustLifeTravels yes, you understand it from your perspective not others which is exactly the issue. I see you are unwilling to even consider thinking from the victims point of view which again shows your immaturity. A disgrace. A sad outcome of your education I presume.
Hi fellows! Here is Arthur Steagall Condé from Sao Paulo. My great great grandfather was Henry Farrar Steagall, 2nd Liutennant who fought many battles under Stonewall Jackson's command
That’s great! I wish we had found a person like you to interview while we were there. Great to see people are still connected to their heritage.
"Hi fellows! Here is Arthur Steagall Condé from São Paulo. My great-great-grandfather was Henry Farrar Steagall, 2nd Lieutenant who fought many battles under Stonewall Jackson's command." Acabei de remover este trecho de um comentário em um vídeo na internet sobre os confederados. Particularmente, repudio com veemência as práticas deste grupo e o acho obsoleto, retrógrado e violento.
Agora, sobre as pessoas mencionadas no trecho:
Stonewall Jackson (Thomas Jonathan Jackson): Foi um dos generais mais renomados do Exército Confederado durante a Guerra Civil Americana (1861-1865). Ele ficou conhecido por sua tática militar audaciosa e pelo sucesso em várias batalhas, especialmente na Primeira Batalha de Bull Run, onde ganhou o apelido "Stonewall" (muralha de pedra). Jackson era extremamente respeitado pelos seus soldados e tornou-se um símbolo dos esforços confederados. No entanto, ele lutava em defesa de um regime que buscava preservar a escravidão.
Henry Farrar Steagall: Não encontrei registros históricos de alguém com esse nome servindo sob o comando de Stonewall Jackson.
Pesquisou nas fontes erradas. Lamento seu fracasso
yeah right
That beautiful church is the Church of St Anthony built by Italian immigrants in 1886. It is beautiful!
Appreciate the info! It was certainly grand.
They were very grateful for our country accept them and most principal of SP never felt superior Than any Brazilian, I know well because family is part Tuscan, but this did not happen with the anglos and germanics, all of them wanted to created their country in our country.
Rita Lee, one of the most important singers in Brazil, is a descendant of a Confederate family and her surname Lee is a tribute to General Robert Lee. Until recently, one of the ministers of the Supreme Federal Court was also a descendant of a Confederate family, Ellen Gracie Northfleet.
That’s great never knew it! Thanks for that
@@JustLifeTravels Rita Lee was a direct descendant of William Hutchinson Norris, Alabama State Senator and Confederate Colonel who founded the municipality of Santa Bárbara in Brazil. She was one of the founders of the mythological psychedelic rock band of the 1960s: Os Mutantes.
Informação completamente ERRADA , o pai dela era um imigrante americano do inicio do sec 20 e era descendente de indios norte americanos o nome lee segundo ela foi um nome que a familia do pai dela adotou....😂 @@barbaraaraujo7700
@@barbaraaraujo7700Os Mutantes were awesome at the beginning when they played psychedelic, then they switched to progressive and became garbage
@@marcorodrigues1331 Não diria que a fase progressiva dos Mutantes seria "lixo". Acho apenas chata e cópia do que era feito lá fora, ao contrário da fase psicodélica que era rica, interessante e tinha sua singularidade, apesar de ser baseada na psicodelia britânica e americana.
“A man who came down here who wanted nothing but a simple life in the agricultural business” that’s an interesting way to say he wanted to enslave people. 7:56
Yeah it’s kinda a joke on the dark history of the place.
@@JustLifeTravels You didn’t say that as a joke unless this whole video is satirical. You’re trying to romanticize a part of American culture that was literally created to continue to enslave people dude. They lost a war about slavery and moved to one of the last places in the Americas where they could continue to enslave people. That’s all types of messed up and you’re just like, “Here lies my confederado brethren that just wanted a simple life in the agricultural business” lmao
50% of the slave owners and plantation owners in Louisiana alone were black. you should probably do some research.
My great grandfather was a lieutenant colonel in the confederate army. He's buried in Texas with a headstone paid for by the US government, inscription reads "Respected foe, gentle soul, a gentleman always. With respect, US Calvary". He died in 1892, and was given a military funeral with honors due to his protecting Union prisoners from abuse.
That’s a great story and for sure someone to be proud to be related to. A man of honor.
That’s wonderful. I lived in Brazil (Parana) a couple years but never saw that place. I’m a proud descendant of confederate soldiers. I also love Brazil and the South.
Great to hear! We had a good time on our trip down there too
Its neat to see we have cousins in Brazil. Hello CSA family. San Paulo looks beautiful
Yeah it’s great seeing a niche American culture inside of Brazil.
Preserving history and worshipping it are two different things we should definitely be educated on what happened in the past good and bad but there are those that want the “good ol days” to come back and those days unfortunately weren’t so good for all races and backgrounds
Cultural festivals like they hold here are common around the world, also most people living in the area are in some part black or have immigrated from Italy since the end of slavery so in Brazil i think that doesn’t exist at all.
America was not established as a multicultural experiment. The Naturalization Act of 1790 address these revisionist arguments.
These are actual Americans great great grandfather's. They aren't just historical figures. This is why Southerners get upset when people talk badly about them because you are talking about actual peoples ancestors
@@Willowtree82 what you just said makes absolutely no sense of course its someone’s ancestor, but that doesn’t take away from things done, if my ancestors had been some radical pro violence African American I’d have to accept that and know that people would say some negative things about what they did, same should go for confederates and their decedents a lot of negativity attached to confederates unfortunately and it’s history but again preserving history teaching the truth but not worshipping or giving them praise is the difference, Germany teaches the holocaust but doesn’t praise hitler or the nazis
@@Willowtree82 Yankees do not value human life at all. Making these arguments agaisnt their "beliefs" is a waste of time.
bro what is joe talking about at 12:55, cathedrals like that ARE common in Brazil. We're a portuguese colony for god's sake! We have so many huge and beautiful cathedrals in the historic center of Rio de Janeiro for example, and also at most state capitals around the country. We even have a very touristy catholic city in São Paulo called Aparecida
For real, no idea what Jo was thinking 😂
He was talking about the fact that there's not a lot of churches in neoclassic style here in Brazil. In fact, I think this one is the only one I remember had seen. He is right, you clearly misunderstood him.
@@AlexandreLimberger Nope. It's common in most state capitals around the country, specifically the older ones. pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Arquitetura_neocl%C3%A1ssica_no_Brasil
@@AlexandreLimberger go to the old city center in Rio de Janeiro and you'll see at least 3 of these, they're majestic
@@Furyy07 An important, VERY important detail:- Brazil was NOT a Portuguese colony... In the time of the Empire, before the Independence, there WAS NOT a distinction between anyone born in Brazil or in Portugal... It was AN UNITED KINGDOM.....
The word colony was introduced later for political discourse reasons.... This word, colony, is a latecomer that beguiles the political reality of Dom João IV and Dom Pedro I before the Independence...
Very interesting history. A slight correction. Neither Catholics or Orthodox Christians have idols in their churches they are sacred images of Christ or holy men and women, and they are not worshiped. While Protestants have increased , Brazil has the highest numbers of Catholics in South America. They are part of the 1.5 billion members of the Catholic Church which continues to grow throughout the world.. while the number of protestants continue to decrease worldwide, including the Baptists.
We are specifically referring to
Exodus 20:4
"You shall not make any graven images, or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth"
Leviticus 26:1
"You shall make you no idols, neither shall you rear you up a graven image, or a pillar, neither shall you place any figured stone in your land, to bow down unto it"
Deuteronomy 4:16
"You shall not make you any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters beneath the earth"
@ The Hebrew scriptures prohibition against the making graven images specifically dealt with the worship of the false gods of the canaanites. God Himself commanded Moses to make an image of the cherubim and set it on the ark of the covenant. God commanded Moses to make an image of the serpent and set it on a pole so that the Israelites would look upon it and be healed. God does not contradict himself. Therefore, the difficulty is with the interpretation and application of the scriptural text which is the main problem with Protestantism.
@JustLifeTravels I remember when CPAC made a golden image of Trump 😂
So they migrated to Brazil in 1866, after the Civil War, and some brought slaves with them? How did they do that after the slaves were freed? Did the slaves come willingly?
It’s possible that they did, most slaves would have been purchased in Brazil but there are several records that indicate that many older former slaves wished they didn’t have to be free. That is very much a minority of the cases but there were some slaves that did prefer it for one reason or another.
You know them boys had some fun! Imagine going down to Brazil after a war and retiring to beautiful women and a piece of land... Nothing better 😂😅
Haha I’m sure they did
If they looked like these guys it was probably a lot of rapping going on
Rapping? Like R&B and Hip Hop? @@ReyMysterioReyTheMiz
@@ReyMysterioReyTheMiz You think we look like rappers? We don't like rap music that much actually.
Amazing work guys! We have to remember history, it should never be destroyed!
I totally agree
I "love" how every one complains about a symbol that they believe to be morally wrong, with little to no knowledge or willingness to honor our history. For instance, the Georgia state flag was changed just as this was. It previously displayed portions of the confederate battle flag. The current state flag just replaced the confederate battle flag with the actual Confederate States of America flag. Everyone quite complaining.
Yeah the people who complain about the confederate flag tend to be the least educated group about American history in general and don’t really understand any of the symbolism behind anything in this country. They just see something, believe a random idea of its meaning they were told and that’s it.
Well, instead of complaining, I'd like to take this chance to make it a learning moment.
We can see, that if the south was uninterrupted, it's still only about as productive as an agrarian society. Don't see any slaves, though he said some were originally brought over, where are they? Looks like the south just went further south, to just die some more. Not very impressive. Looks like your typical southern town, abandoned.
The fastest growing states in the USA are the south, people are fleeing New York, California and several other northern states to go to places like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, the Carolina’s. Black Americans are moving in massive numbers to the Atlanta metro. Your point about southern towns being abandoned is pretty hilarious. You are here to make irrelevant points and that’s fine feel free. Honoring peoples history is not an endorsement of their beliefs. If I visit Roman monuments that does not mean I support gladiatorial combat and by leaving up the coliseum and being against ripping it down also does not mean I endorse it.
@@JustLifeTravelswhere do you live ?
@@TonyStark-xr2omwhy do these red third world states in the us, take money from us hard-working Democrats in the blue States?
Nice video! Tks for sharing. I'm Brazilian, and we had little idea of the civil war in America. There was a tv series here in the 80's, called "Os gatões", or "The Dukes of Hazard", that showed a wonderful 1969 Dodge charger, but, it had that flag, that is now forbidden. I read a lot about the matter and now it is more clear to me. There is another city in the state of SP called Santa Barbara d'Oeste that also received iimmigrants from this war.
That’s cool I didn’t know there were other communities of confederates that came too but it makes sense. Glad you enjoyed!
Should not change history or flags anywhere. I'm a lifetime member of the scv.
Fully agree
Well you idiots don’t even use the right flag…. That’s not the stars and bars that’s the battle flag! Which was made after due to the confusion in having similar flags on opposing sides
@@JustLifeTravelsAdolf’s Germany lasted longer than the Confederacy. Just because some people in our past were misguided and tried to keep it alive doesn’t make it ok. But at the end of the day, it’s your right to say and display what you wish as a private citizen, but as private citizen, I’ll express as many others will that we believe it’s distasteful.
Ikr. I feel the same towards the fag flag. Distasteful and disgusting.
@@barnibussnaples6561No slaver flew under the Confederate flag. The same cannot be said of the Stars and Stripes.
Hardly anyone knows about this chapter in America,, it is history, I'm glad the guys recognized the "battle flag of northern Virginia", it was barely flown in the civil war,, Hollywood made the flag popular and was in every civil war movie and the Dukes of Hazzard adapted the paint scheme of the gen Lee was in fact Dodge put out in 1969 not the t.v. show. Great video, I really enjoyed it!!👍👍
Glad you enjoyed, we both enjoy history a lot and love getting to learn it where it actually happened.
I live in a town roughly 30 km from Americana, here in the state of São Paulo. People make fun of the accent of the inhabitants of Americana and the surrounding cities, and that's because they speak Portuguese with an English intonation. This documentary was so informative. Thanks guys.
Glad you enjoyed! We loved our visit down there
Being a cathedral has nothing to do with the size or architecture of a church. If it contains the diocesan chair of a bishop, it's a cathedral.
Makes sense
Cool; Pres. Jimmy Carter and his wife Rosalynn visited Americana ;
That’s cool, makes sense with him being southern himself. I’m also from the south so for me it was cool to see a piece of a specific American culture in such a foreign place.
When?
@@alexkx8599 1972
Many of those "Mc" surnames were Scottish, not all were Irish
Of course that does make sense there were a lot more Scottish in the south at the time too.
Scotch Irish. Our ancestors were Scottish who came from Ulster Ireland. They left Scotland for Ulster then to the US
Were there any Welsh immigrants in DIXIE?
@@edwardamosbrandwein3583 oh yes
@@edwardamosbrandwein3583 Not many Welsh immigrants at the time of the Civil War, but there would have been very large numbers of Welsh descendants. Welsh surnames are extremely common everywhere in the South. Most such immigrants were probably already living in other parts of the UK when they embarked.
Thats just amazing. Im definitely attending their festival. Just googled it and it seems to be very beautiful. History should never be censored.
Yea we want to go to the festival very much also I hope you enjoy it when you go. Thank you for enjoying the video.
@@JustLifeTravelsmay all those who dies fighting for slavery never rest in peace ❤
@@73200grandison oh, the "love" narrative...
I liked so much of this vídeo, I was born and still living in Americana.
I am so proud of this story, the Americans brought the cotton and the industrie, it was very important to the City development, unfortunately the English has not been spoken anymore here, I also like to tell this story to my friends.
Keep going guys, you will always welcome in Americana.
Bring back the old Americana flag.
While I don’t think they necessarily need to change it back at this point, I do think they probably shouldn’t have changed it.
This video is sensational what a wonder never knew there was this place in são paulo
Very glad to here that you enjoyed it. Brazil is definitely full of surprises. Many more videos coming so hopefully you enjoy.
Southerners know. I take it you aren't Southern? It's amazing how the war in the US is taught differently in the non Southern states. Did you know the monuments and the bases that were named after confederates majority were gifted by the US government during reconstruction as a way to recognize them as American veterans, many whose families secured the country from the English crown
Conheci essa História de Americana. É muito importante. O sotaque de vocês soa muito mais fácil para eu entender. Slow English. Parabéns pelo trabalho.
Thanks very much! Glad we were able to make it understandable for you and I hope you get a chance to check the place out for yourself!
As a 54 y/o woman, it's refreshing to know there are still young men like you who can appreciate our history. Too many young people are just just so left in their ideology. I thought you all were extinct! 🙂
Appreciate it, it’s a fascinating place that few people know of or think about.
@@JustLifeTravelsnever heard of it until I came across y'all's video. Thank you, I appreciate the history lesson
Glad we could introduce it to you!
And slavery. Don’t forget they went there because slavery was still legal
Yeah, their reasoning was nowhere near noble but it’s the reality of the history of the families that founded the place.
No. They left the Imperial federal government of Lincoln to escape the Zimbabwe level kleptocracies of the Reconstruction era military dictatorships, rampant crime and complete looting of private property by the "víctors" of a completely unnecessary war.
Stop lying.
@@JustLifeTravelsdude u a whole goofy sad mfs aint never even played a sport
I doubt that
You do realize that the war wasn’t about slaves lmao and regular guys didn’t have slaves only very rich did. Very rich don’t fight wars.
It would’ve been cool to hear from more locals, see how they look different from Portuguese-descended Brazilians, or hear the differences in dialect being that their ancestors came from the American South.
Fully agree I wish we could have found some, but the original population who founded it has been outnumbered by immigrants mainly from Italy aswell as having mixed with other Brazilians and lost their identity or moved to other areas of Brazil.
@@JustLifeTravels That, in and of itself, it’s an interesting side point. In either case, great work, guys.
Thanks we appreciate the support!
Evangelical Christians in Brazil are Neopentecostal or Pentecostal. Many of Evangelical Christians here are for the Assembly Of God.
the Arizona Territory was part of the Confederacy
Yeah there was a lot of support and a couple battles out there.
Fly your confederate flags proudly so you can be seen.
🤘🤘🤘💥💥
This is mind blowing. Thanks for the video.
Glad you enjoyed, it is crazy that confederates ended up down there for sure.
Very, very, very interesting! I knew about the migration of Confederates to Brazil, but I knew no details about it - AT ALL! Brazil is a true "metling pot" where past identities have been replaced by national identity. The U.S. has done just the reverse with nationalistic and racial identity becoming the dominate identifier. We are a nation of "tribes" today more than ever before and will be even more so in the future. I subscribed.
Welcome! I hope you will find future videos as interesting!
Because the people who run the show here don't want us talking about them so they use media to stoke division. Just my opinion 🤷
Brazilian national identity is a unifying concept, but many people in the South and Southeast of Brazil, regions where there has been a lot of immigration, still identify themselves by their ethnicity, as in the USA, such as Italian-Brazilians, Japanese-Brazilians and German-Brazilians.
If the confederate flag doesn’t have the same meaning over in Brazil, let them be.
I agree, the people there are mixed race and still see it as their heritage. Trying to impose American values on the idea is crazy
Leave it alone in the states too.
"Leftists" and "leave peacefull people alone" never works in the same sentence. It was all fine with black people happy in the parties untill these "woke" folks start the drama. Noisy, useless minority trying to import 1st world nonsensical problems to a country with so many real ones.
Yes. People should preserve history no matter how horrible certain points of history were.
Also, I don’t think that confederate flag should’ve been taken down. It’s a part of history and the origin of that place.
I definitely agree, hope you enjoyed the video!
Losers 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Confederacy fought for limited goverment (states rights) and limited taxation. Yankees fought for Rail road robber Barrons and tax rebellion.
Yankees need to apologize to Dixieland.
Nothing wrong with the confederates ! The north was the one in the wrong
Look now all the zoo beasts are let loose ?? A real circus American has become
@@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese but what about slavery?
That church should be restored. Beautiful building
Agreed, hopefully the Brazilian government gives it some funding for repairs as it is a historic and cultural landmark.
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed!
Only rich people owned slaves here, very few, most of all the slaves went to South America.
That’s very true, we actually made a video in Nigeria and the place they kept slaves there was actually named after Brazil because so many were sent there specifically.
I truly hope that I misread the signals and that you guys are fair minded and good guys. You’re so young and you have presents and can make a difference. I’m rooting for you.
Appreciate the rooting for us
The rectangular version of the battle flag first appeared in January 1864 and was commissioned by Gen. Joseph Johnston. It was the battle flag of the Army of Tennessee.
Yeah, the flag is not even a purely political one but military and connotations of slavery added to it are kinda crazy.
I would have never thought a place like this would exist in Brazil, very interesting. Also, the church was very beautiful😄
Yes I was surprised when I first heard about it also. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Not racist, it was much more than people think. There's good and bad in all things unfortunately only one part of that was is taught.
Exactly
I love quirky bits of history like this, always fascinating
Yeah really cool seeing such a seemingly random piece of America in Brazil.
@@JustLifeTravels yeah mate, totally. I'm Australian and these little 'weird" parts of human history will never get boring.
It’s cool to see confederates investing into black businesses. Nice Jordan’s fam
Thanks, got a few of em grew up in an almost all black neighborhood so been supporting black business my whole life.
"Sancto Antonio Hujus Civitatis Patrono". I think it means "Saint Anthony is the patron of this city". Known as Saint Anthony of Padua, Italy, he was born in Lisbon, Portugal. The church was built by italian immigrants though.
Although a believer, I'm not religious, but I love visiting cathedrals and other beautiful, intricate buildings. I visited Almudena in Madrid, some in Toledo I forgot, Sagrada Familia in Barcelona (outside only, too much trouble to get in), Notre Dame de la Garde in Marseille (missed La Major though), San Lorenzo in Genova, Mosta Dome in Malta, and Palma Cathedral in Mallorca...but I NEVER, ever visited this beautiful cathedral that is literally 8min drive from me. Shameful, lol
This was the first time I saw it from inside and I'll definitely gonna visit it now, so thank you for reminding me how much of a fool I am.
Glad we could get you to swing by! It’s like that for me too, I’ll love next to some tourist attraction and tell myself I can go anytime and then end up never going. We always try to visit cathedrals whenever we get the chance, you’ll see a lot of them in our videos especially in Catholic or other Christian countries. In the Mexico videos we have made there are tons
The American flag (stars and stripes) was the flag of the anti-bellum south for eighty years before slavery ended.
100% accurate
My ancestry is Austrian. Both my brothers were born in Innsbruck. Dad was born in Graz. I was born here in Chicago. We have lived here since the early 1970s. With all of that said I would ask you: is that the Brazilian English accent?
No we are just from the USA, we hoped to find locals who were from the original Americana settlers but unfortunately we didn’t get any.
I watched a video these days of two other american youtubers about the same topic and they managed to interview briefly one or two people related to confederate acestry, will try to find out in my history list and post it here.
@@AlexandreLimberger
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That church is beautiful.
Fully agree!
Great video guys🤙
Thanks a lot glad you enjoyed, we had a blast getting to visit and it was certainly one of the high points of the trip
Always difficult dealing with race but i can appreciate the delivery
Thanks a lot, hope you got to learn something or we sparked an interest in researching the place more.
Howdy. There is a Ghanian word, Sankofa, the literal translation of the word is “it is not taboo to fetch what is at risk of being left behind.” Meaning it is important to know your history so you are not destined to repeat it. So yes, it is true that you should not forget your history, history should also not be used as a weapon of hate. Consider this, no one cared about the battle flag until the KKK started using it. In history, every time the battle flag has come to the forefront of conversations it has been because it was used as a tool/symbol of hate. Starting with "The Birth of a Nation; 1915, Bloody Summer; 1919, Tulsa massacre, 1921 and the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s. We should remember the horrific parts of the past as a teacher not honor it. In my opinion, their flag is a place of honor. So yes it was valid to remove the image of the battle flag, from their flag. Side note a cool thing about some of those Confederado descendants is they still carry a slight southern accent and cook “southern” style food like fried chicken and corn bread.
Thanks Dudes... I bet the ladies were happy to see yall....
Haha definitely
So are there Baptist church,Presbyterian,other anglo church in amercana Brazil.
Evangelical Protestantism is actually on the rise all across Brazil and is getting many converts so, even if there wasn’t before there certainly is now. But that is a very interesting question to know how much it spread from the original group of Americans who moved down.
@@JustLifeTravels Baptist and Presbyterian churches exist in all regions of Brazil (in small and large cities), including in the Northeast region, the most Catholic and poor region. Most of them were founded by American missionaries in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s.
Here in brazil we consider america one continent,south and north america are subregions
Yeah, most of Latin America does that as well I believe.
@@JustLifeTravels in your opinion what country is most racial diverse Usa or Brazil
Brazil for sure if you mean overall, the individuals in Brazil are mostly racially mixed between natives, blacks and whites as well of course as the Asian population that is especially noticeable in São Paulo
@@JustLifeTravelsThere are two Americas. 1. The continent North and south. 2. The country The United States of America.
Correction to what u said... the statues are not idols...they are representations (and reminders of the religious/historical person depicted) but RC are not praying to the actual statues.... I can see how that can be confusing to understand.
Ah okay thanks!
'That's the night that the lights went out in Georgia...'😂 love Reba
Vicki Lawrence from the Carol Burnett did that song first and better
Great song!
I didn’t know it wasn’t an original I’ll have to look up that version.
Are rhere any General Lee replicas there? That would be cool.
Didn’t see any but wouldn’t be surprised if during the festival they have them for sale
The greatest rock singer in Brazil rita lee descendant from a Confederate family and her surname was a tribute to General Lee. She were very famous and considered an icon in brazil. Unfortunately she passed away recently.
@@lucasmoretti9472 Yeah, Rita Lee Jones was a direct descendant of William Hutchinson Norris, Alabama State Senator and Confederate Colonel who founded the municipality of Santa Bárbara in Brazil. She was one of the founders of the mythological psychedelic rock band of the 1960s: Os Mutantes.
Waaay down south of Dixie
Very far south of Dixie
To my understanding their are also NAZI'S who fled after their defeat .
Yes many Nazis also fled Europe post wwii, plenty ended up in Brazil as well. South Brazil has and German speaking communities to this very day that existed far before the Nazis came so it was much easier for them to blend into society and there was no need to sound their own community there.
Deam this was uploaded only a month later then mine but it must have been filmed a the year before if you guys were there around Christmas.
The immigration museum was neat, not that big but it was nice to give the video a little bit more different places instead of just the cemetery.
Also who let you guys into the cemetery if you couldn't find any confederate dependents?
We just arrived when the grounds keeper was there by luck, he let us in. Yeah I wish we had gotten in to the museum. We released this way way after we initially filmed it, you are right it was around December.
@@JustLifeTravels Ahh makes sense though I'm pretty sure that the grounds keeper though he didn't speak English must've been a decedent as well. Nice to hear a response from you guys. and I know what it's like to have old footage laying around I've got a whole mountain of it and editing takes so much work, doesn't help how much of a perfectionist I am but I belief that the quality is worth the time investment
I found it astounding and disappointing that you didn't record all 4 sides of the monuments to look for my surname. Nor did you let us see the front interior of the church.
Sorry about that
We are scattered around here.
It’s great people are still there and in touch with their history
Orthodox churches have icons, not idols.
Exodus 20:4
"You shall not make any graven images, or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth"
@@JustLifeTravelswhere in the church fathers is your justification or grounding for this exigesis
Hey this tripped me out!! I wonder if any Poinsett’s were down there?
Not sure, but it was cool to get to see it in person and learn a bit reading about it.
I don’t think Brazil ended slavery for around 25 years after the US did.
That’s correct
America never ended slavery. It simply created a government monopoly on the institution through the legal system.
The emperor and his family were expelled from Brazil after Princess Isabel decreed the end of slavery. So we went from an empire to a democracy and it never worked properly. Slave owners, owners of gold and diamond mines and also farmers did not want slavery to end and the emperor and his family were abolitionists.
Sou católico e acredito que o Brasil é um país católico
Yes, Brazil is still majority Catholic
Sim, mas daqui a poucas décadas será majoritariamente evangélico.
Very cool
Yeah it was certainly a passion project, and a great day out.
Almost every ethnicity fought for the south. Germans, Poles and even some Italians.
Yeah some people from those groups certainly did.
Orthodox, Catholics, and Anglicans do not pray to “idols”. They pray to God. They venerate “honor” symbols such as the cross and holy icons to aid in worship of God.
They didn't find a single native confederado to interview???
We were looking for them, they are few and far between now a days it seems. The majority of people there are just regular Brazilians, who might be related by blood to the confederados but don’t know or care anymore. I think the best time to actually meet them would certainly be during the festival.
@@JustLifeTravels Sounds great, thanks for responding 👍
No problem. Have a good one!
Awesome they have confederate monuments and haven't tore them down, like in United States.
I agree, it’s good to keep historic markers up for all to see
mc alpine has transformed to alphin in coastal nc, its Scottish as well, not irish
Yeah we didn’t even think about that but yes way way more Scottish people settled the south than Irish so it’s probably the case for most of those names.
Todos são brasileiros agora 😊
Yup they have all fully integrated, Brazil is a massive melting pot of cultures and people.
Usually i would preserve dark history like the concentration camps in germany, but when you have festivals about the past, thats a different story. When i saw that these people were celebrating confederants where slavery was a good thing, everyman is not created equal, white supremacy, and no civil rights, i was at awe. Damn Brazilian Emperor Dom Pedro II. I hope one day they will shut that that dark history down for good and make it illegal to replicate anything from the confederants for these racist in the past.
Well interestingly enough Brazil had far far far more slaves than the entire USA did, your argument could just as easily be applied to all of Brazilian history prior to 1888 which is a full 23 years after the USA ended it. The festival is to honor the people who established that community. We have videos in Nigeria you are free to go and watch and they have statues built for the famous slave catchers from their communities who made their cities wealthy by capturing fellow black Africans to sell into slavery to whoever would pay the highest amount.
@JustLifeTravels My question was why are you CELEBRATING dark history where confederates thought slavery was a good thing, everyman not created equal, white supremacy, and no civil rights? You just made your argument weak trying to justify the celebration, saying brazil have a long history of slavery, confederates are honored, and some black people from Nigeria sold their own people. The confederates literally came to Brazil because slavery was not abolished so they can beat, "ape", and force people to do their bidding. It's like saying German nazis should celebrate their heritage like it's 1939-1944 before 1945, even though these people killed over 6 million jews during that time. Your the reason what's wrong with the world today with this backwords' evil thinking. I never said don't erase (cut statues down, forget about history, don't learn about civil rights and confederacy), but one thing I will not tolerate and most people would agree is the celebration of over 500 years of slavery.
@JustLifeTravels My question was why are you CELEBRATING dark history where confederates thought slavery was a good thing, everyman not created equal, white supremacy, and no civil rights? You just made your argument weak trying to justify the celebration, saying brazil have a long history of slavery, confederates are honored, and some black people from Nigeria sold their own people. The confederates literally came to Brazil because slavery was not abolished so they can beat, "ape", and force people to do their bidding. Its like saying German nazis should celebrate their heritage like it's 1939-1944 even though these people killed over 6 million jews. Also, i would never say get rid of history ( break the statue, tear the clothes, don't let it in the museum, dont teach it in history, etc), but the difference is your celebrating over 500 years of slavery like its some sort of festival in honor for the confederates which makes you a supporter of them.
@@gmilkboy504he said it’s celebrating the people who founded the place/community. It’s you who are putting your own connotation behind it, Which is fine. He answered your question, you just don’t like that he didn’t walk into your framed argument that you so nicely tried to set up for him.
@@Maynard-il1yj Iam not tricking anybody..... It's just why would you celebrate a tradition where its main reason of creation is to continue enslaving people which they have been for over 500 years, treat people less than ants, use people as clothing products, and try to make a race extinct. I just don't get it smh. You must believe in their philosophy trying to justify this monstrosity. You need to pray and have jesus in your life.
Will you be near Washington DC during september? We can set a meeting!
Unfortunately not.
“Mcintree”. Wow. Just wow
A family name?
The American Civil War (April 12, 1861 - May 26, 1865; also known by other names) was a civil war in the United States between the Union[f] ("the North") and the Confederacy ("the South"), which was formed in 1861 by states that had seceded from the Union. The central conflict leading to war was a dispute over whether slavery should be permitted to expand into the western territories, leading to more slave states, or be prohibited from doing so, which many believed would place slavery on a course of ultimate extinction.[14][15]
Yes that is what the American civil war is.
Well the condefederaton was first before the Union. Look up, what is the name of the original US constitution. That would be the articles of Confederation
Also Confederates descendants fought to secure the country from the English crown and also in the Spanish American war
We just visited
Great hope you guys enjoyed your time over there
Great video very interesting. I believe that All History should be left as it is. If they come for one History. Next time they come for Your History! Remember China they Destroyed so much beautiful history that were good bad it did not matter. They destroyed as much as they could. They can Never get alot of it back! Thank you fellows Now Following you.
God Bless.
Totally agree, it’s important to understand the mindsets of people historically and if your area ever valued a certain aspect of itself or person enough to memorialize them it’s good to preserve that and learn why.
@@JustLifeTravels Well said:)
God Bless you fellows:)
And you as well
Yes it's valid people who lived there didn't want that flag representing their city they made that decision I think you guys did a little too much "siding" if you will with the Confederates vs giving us the history of the city like we don't need your opinion of why or what they wanted "he wanted a simple farming life" we don't know what he wanted you have a tour guide shout out to him he was ready to work he got paid for pretty much accompanying you all
We sided with the preservation of history, would you think we gave our opinions too much if we said the opposite and you agreed with us?
@@JustLifeTravels im a Libra I tend to be fair being honest I probably wouldn't mind you all leaning more towards the other side opinion wise but, the important thing is the history of the city. Imo it was left out or overlooked, facts on the city was what I was looking for. There were too many personal opinions for me the video wasn't very factual.
@@Official_HaveYouHeard Well you know what they say. If you don't like it, don't let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya.
@@geneharris4953 I just gave my opinion is all. I can appreciate that they created the video. Im open to watching other content by them. I know if I don't like something I don't have to watch it. Thanks for defending them Now back to your regular scheduled program...
Your ancestors chose wisely.
Thanks
Believers really don't care how big or small the church building is. If the Holy Spirit is not present, I'm not really impressed even if it's laden with gold, silver and diamond. It's all trash without God's presence.
Very true
So where did they bury their slaves then?
That’s a great question, but unfortunately in both Brazil and the USA it was very common not to mark slave graves at the time. I don’t know 100% for sure that is the case here in Americana Brazil but it is very possible, it would be a good addition to have it made into a historic site so people can see the full story of the cities history.
Yea got rid of the racist crest that show history of how the city was founded. Get rid of everyone’s idea of history, of how your community was founded. So people wanted to farm and be free from reconstruction, but people want that history to not exist. Those people are ignorant and always will be
Yeah it’s sad to see people erase any part of history. Wiping away the history of slavery means we also forget those who were enslaved
What's with the third guy he doesn't talk? I've watched over half this video and not seen one person in that town.
The third guy with us is a friend of ours who is from Brazil and we were hanging out with but he did not know the history of the area so he was just hanging out while we told the history we had read about it and gave our opinions.
@@JustLifeTravels
It's funny , as soon as I said that he started talking. Lol
Haha that’s how it goes sometimes
People braying about the battle flag probably also believe the war was about slavery too.
Yeah probably
I've been there.
What did you think of it?
They should’ve never taken the confederate flag down. That is such a disgrace to America go Trump.
The destruction of history is always shameful
Does any Afro Brazilian live there or are you not sure?
There were a few in the town working in restaurants that we checked out, but google says there is about 14.4% of the population identified as at least part black. In Brazil many people who identify as “white” also will have trace native and or black percents as well. Though many newer waves of migrants are full blooded European, especially Italians who are actually the majority in Americana now.
@@JustLifeTravels No one has “pure blood” in Europe, which is a continent that has been the scene of many invasions and miscegenation. Hitler was the one who wanted to exterminate them all and leave “only” a “race” considered pure and Aryan. All you have to do is take a DNA test to put all this talk to rest and realize that we are all from one race, the human race.
Who is Peter?
He’s an irish friend of ours. He is in all the Ireland videos and many others
Rita Lee cantora de "Rock Nacional"! 😂
Someone said she is a descendent of the Americana settlers. Is that common knowledge amongst Brazilians?
@@JustLifeTravels Sim, claro, mas acho que não foi muito relevante, pois ela mesma parece nunca ter falado muito a respeito além disso teve um estilo de vida bem diferente que a distanciava de tudo isso!
Of course that makes sense, well it’s good that there are some of them who are still out there in Brazil.
anglican churches are not full of 'idols' btw
Exodus 20:4
"You shall not make any graven images, or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth"
Anglicans are iconoclast that reject the 7th Ecumenical Councils dogmatic teaching on iconostasis which only the Eastern Orthodox Church teaches.
Anglican-"ism" is is a heresy
Yeah they got mad that the slaves where freed and they left to Brazil. The end
If you don’t like history you probably shouldn’t watch videos about history
@@JustLifeTravels oh it’s not that I don’t like it. I live in town where the 37 North Carolina infantry battled the 17th Vermont infantry at the battle of Petersburg AND I’ve cleaned the national park where the battle of the crater was at. *Ich Leibe Geschichte lernen* I wanting videos on history on the time including South American and and Turko-ottoman history as well which in all intensive are involved in confederate American history. Am I saying anyone should be ashamed of who they are or who they are related to but I know where this conversation leads yes they where all saints
@@veldrensavoth7119You did a whole lotta word vomit, fella
@@AwfulBullet not really vomit.
The civil war was not about slaves
Mc Entree 😂
Great musician
2:08 nice love how ya just blow past that little bit of information there 😂😂😂😂😂 right yes tell me more of this magical place. Mmm slaves you say? And where are their descendants? Were they ever reunited with their American families? Did they receive reparations from their slave masters?? I have a lot of questions buddy
Slavery continued for a time in Brazil and several decades later it came to an end, when it ended Brazil had a massive slave population that was now free far larger than any other country in history. A lot of the former slaves would establish communities on the outskirts of cities which would develop into the favelas of the modern day. They will have by now fully integrated into Afro Brazilian and pardo culture.
Race mixing is extremely common in Brazil today so during the honoring of the confederate settlers you will see many black looking people who may even be partially related to the slaves and the masters of the original community but I can’t say a specific person that I know for sure that is true for.
If you are interested, we actually did another video in Nigeria where the slave trade took many people from Africa to Brazil among other places. Lagos’s Slave Island (Nigeria) 🇳🇬
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You played with words, and you appear to be masking disrespect. This is my first time watching one of your videos. I’m beginning to think watching your videos may not be a meaningful and worthwhile use of my time. Hope you guys are better than you appear.
We both have family that fought on both sides of the civil war
Sad!!!!!! they fought for what was wrong how is that patriotic????? or anything else
@@Laylow1212The moral compass of society has changed drastically throughout time. In those days it was believed by many that there was nothing wrong with slavery. It’s easy to criticize others for their wrongdoings but what is more important is to individually learn how to be more kind, compassionate and forgiving.
@@MamacitaBonita 😂😂😂😂😂 ya you soft
It’s similar to the hoards of Nazi’s that ran to Argentina to escape war crime prosecution and started their life there. Would a ‘celebration’ of Nazism with Swastika flags be ‘preserving history’?? Some things are best remembered but left in the past and not glorified, I am not seeing this come through in your video which is a shame
It's not. Limited government and limited taxation were the battle cries of the American Revolution and the War of Northern Aggression.
The Germans engaged in a crusade agaisnt Bolshevism
If the Nazis built a community on their Nazi identity it would be, but because it’s a hypothetical no such thing unfortunately exists. Would be cool to see though.
In Nigeria we have been to cities where they built statues to honor the greatest local slave catchers who made their villages so much money. It would also be bad to take those down. Feel free to watch those videos to see what I’m talking about
@@JustLifeTravels it’s really disappointing to hear you speak like this. Preservation of history is for textbooks and education to help people learn from past mistakes. It certainly does not come in a form of a festival glorifying dangerous ideologies. Please rethink what these symbol’s would be seen as by the victims of such atrocities. You say a celebration of nazism would be ‘cool to see’? Really? Would a victim of the holocaust think that’s cool? I think you are lacking maturity to talk about such issues if you think this would be cool to see. What a disgrace.
I think you are probably just too sensitive and emotional when addressing the issue which does not allow you to apply reason to it. That’s fine if you don’t understand the history or situation but others do so stop complaining, stop trying to destroy things and try to create something instead.
@@JustLifeTravels yes, you understand it from your perspective not others which is exactly the issue. I see you are unwilling to even consider thinking from the victims point of view which again shows your immaturity. A disgrace. A sad outcome of your education I presume.
O sul não e meu pais
Okay
Do you guys have any black friends? Just curious.
We both live in America I think the answer is pretty obvious.
So a yes or a no?
Yes, but it’s irrelevant to the history of a place in Brazil.
Why you race baiting ?
@@JustLifeTravelshow would ur so called black friends think huh!!! Huh!!!!!!?
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30%?