Peter Hitchens interview: Free speech is vital, release the republicans and replace the police
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Peter Hitchens is a Mail on Sunday columnist and author.
His latest book, 'A Revolution Betrayed', will be published November 24.
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Watch our interview with the man arrested for protesting against King Charles: ua-cam.com/video/mKZgUW4RQNs/v-deo.html
I am a royalist but for him to be arrested for what he said is lunacy. Deeply troubling.
When people are arrested for the mildest form of dissent it shows that UK is teetering on the edge of becoming a police state.
Becoming? 2020 covid act anyone? Anyone?
Ha Ha, the left brought in hate speech laws little thinking they would could be applied to them.
Its what the tories want.
Teetering!!! Went Over That Edge Over 10 Years Ago!!!!!
@@petyrkowalski9887 “the tories, the tories, the tories” Grow up. They all want it.
Don't always agree with Peter, but always have to time to hear what he has to say
Agreed
He had a left wing brother. I'd imagine they had some interesting conversations together.
@@rustynail1194 there is a recording of them debating each other. Easy to find on UA-cam. Christopher rips him apart.
@@rustynail1194 They did, Christopher switched from left to right as his waist band expanded. I miss the Hitch!
100%, might not agree with him on much but he always argues from a position of good faith, which is increasingly uncommon among conservatives
Not often I agree with Peter Hitchens, but he's right about the treatment of the protestors against Prince Andrew and the Gentleman in Oxford who said "who elected him".
He'll always be the 'idiot' brother.
@@factstrumpprejudice6740 who, Peter Hitchens (compared with Christhoper) or Prince Andrew?
@@clockywork Mr Hitchens, although the pedophilic royal is equally qualified.
And now Randy Andy will be deputising for Charley boy
@@tonyskoyled5949 says more about King Charles iii dopey judgement
We need more people like Peter willing to express an educated opinion on matters of importance. Always a good listen..
Educated?! Hmm. I understand the word, but I'm not sure I understand how you are using it!
Hitchens was one of the first to line up for the SWEET JAB 💉
Hitchens speaks words …
Words …
Words …
And more words …
But the man displayed no substance 🤷♂️ when it mattered most
@@stueyapstuey4235 Peter is obviously highly intelligent. Not that you have to agree with him, but undoubtably extremely bright.
Always worth a listen. Don't always agree but find his infectious enthusiasm and jokey demeanour a real tonic. It's the barely suppressed giggling that gets me the most. A right laugh.
Positivity is overrated, much like your comment.
@@j.stutton4146 who overrated it?
If that guy who got arrested for shouting didn't say "come and see the violence inherent in the system, help! Help! I'm being repressed!" then an opportunity was missed.
now I actually understand that joke after watching that film so many times. 😂
“Who are you?”
“I am Charles, King of the Britons”
“Well I didn’t vote for you”
@@Alex-pk1iy "you don't vote for kings"
"How do you become king then?"
"A lady of lake arised from her shimmering Semite, held aloft Excalibur from the bussom of the water, signyfing by devine Providence that I Arthur, king of the Britons, should wield Excalibur, THAT is why I am your king"
@will hardy I'm just glad the following of Monty Python exists. 😂
His name was Denis coincidently but they insisted on calling him young man
Regardless of your opinion, he is levels above most journalists/pundits
I May Not Agree With Everything He Says(Far From It) But Respect What And How He Says It. Its Very Refreshing And Somewhat Captivating How Well Peter Speaks!!!
Seems to have taken the most important thing from his time in education. That being the ability to form an understanding of the world and develop his own opinion on things logically and separate from social and institutional hysteria and flavour of the month ideas.
An arrest is a stop. The police stop you, read you your rights, interview you down at the station and decide whether to charge you or, in certain cases, work out if you will agree to a caution. De-arresting means releasing that person without charge. If there is no charge, or a caution, then the arrest hasn't led to anything. De-arresting means de-stopped- it's not really a thing.
The problem is that now an arrest goes on a police record, meaning consequences for employment or public reputation, even if no charges could ever be made. So the police "de-arrest" you- but the damage, as PH says, is done.
When you protest the monarchy here in the Netherlands they will arrest you and take you away. Then at the police station they will decide it isn't an offense afterall and let you go again. But by then the event will have passed, the monarch have left and with it your chance to get attention when it's relevant. Its quite an insidious way of limiting one's freedom of speech.
But that is part of the legal and computer network. Your arrest is a fact. If you are arrested several times for loitering outside a school and no charges are brought this a point of interest and police intelligence. You are saying the file should be torn up each time?
@@peterh1353
A charge or a caution should be the fact. If they arrest you then release you without charge, you either haven't actually broken the law, or it's a case of mistaken identity. If they need to interview you further, then that should still be a private matter (although share-able with other police personnel and forces), until a charge can be brought or a caution made.
Never thought I would agree with Peter Hitchens. But on this occasion he's spot on. And if the authorities suppress protest it just inspires people to protest more.
...or take up pitchforks & firebrands
Peter Elkins
So it's legal now to protest against Americans? About bloody time!
Peter Hitchens is one of one. There's no one else like him and the world will be a much worse place without him.
There's loads of people like hitchens ,but you simply don't know them or more likely don't listen stop idolising people and pedestalizing them people like hitchens do not care for your admiration you completely miss the points they make in doing so , more over if you are in such awe of this man why are you not modelling yourself upon his ideas and mannerisms ? The world wouldn't miss him when he's gone then would they ?
@@ThomasDoubting5 Do you even care about punctuation?
Always loved both Hitchens brothers. Whatever the position you can bet it's come from independent thinking and refusal to say something they don't really believe just because it's convenient. Edifying.
Yes. A great comment. Both brothers are towering intellects; just different perspectives. Christopher appealed to the Left, but in truth could be a smug, bumptious, and rather slef-regarding individual. Peter always came across as more grounded after a very varied life which included living behind the Iron Curtain. I respect both equally.
@@hittitecharioteer Wise Words!!! You Don't Have To Agree But RESPECT Is Always Vital!!!
PH looking marvellous with his beard!
God I'd love to hear what his brother would say about the current state of affairs.
Pretty much the same as Russell Brand but with more brandy.
Probably something along the lines of do some drugs and moan about god.
@ :D
@ ROFL, nicely said :)
Unfortunately he saw quiet a bit of this coming. Particularly the right of Christian nationalism.
Whatever you think about Peter he always has a completely unique take on the world. Also, his brother is just an absolute legend.
ABSOLUTELY Comrade Kirk.
Not sure I'd call it "unique". It's a fundamentally religious - specifically Christian - take but that's not especially rare unfortunately.
Loved Christopher Hitchens. RIP
@@Zatnicatel yes but it's rare to see people in the UK (especially columnists) who are willing to criticize every political party, it's especially the case that the UK right has started copying the US right and somebody who's willing to stand up for police accountability, the NHS and gun control as opposed to just complaining about'wokeness' and refugees is refreshing.
Interesting the two didn't really get along.
Always nice to hear peter hitchens views.
Peter Hitchens once again gets it spot on.
These people live in a la la land.
I studied in the UK for 3 years.
What I saw is a country in deep social and economic decline left me shocked.
The social decline is what happens when you reject God & try to replace religion with a bunch of abstract idea's.
@@mattd5073 Oh give it a rest. Not everything is about your God.
@@mattd5073 nonsense
Its really really sad to hear that... we are in real trouble
Iraqi Moustache.
Massive respect for Mr Hitchens.
I disagree with him on 99% of issues...BUT...and it's a big BUT😏...he has principles
and he sticks to them!😱
Imagine if that caught on in this country!
Indeed!
That would be great. If people really convinced by their own awful ideas stuck to them. Yes. What a fabulous idea
@@hmq9052 does that not then apply to you too??
@@stickyikyno1 Which bit? The sarcasm? Or the obviously stupid premise?
I could listen to Peter Hitchens for hours, he’s one of the few genuine journalists out there who’s not afraid to speak their mind. I don’t always agree with him, but I’m always interested in hearing what he has to say about numerous issues affecting the world today. I will say that I agreed with every single thing he said in this video, especially regarding free speech.
He's not a journalist. He's a pundit. Journalists are interested in the truth. Not giving their opinions
'I could listen to Peter Hitchens for hours'
So could Peter Hitchens.
The guy who called out Prince Andrew was within his rights. Andrew should have faced a court. He got arrested because the Royal family are above the law. If he would have shouted at my mom's funeral of course the police would do nothing. This is a fact. He also got attacked which is actually a crime and the person who did it should face charges. I liked the Queen, but this whole thing sucks and the police need to pick their quarrels more carefully.
Faced a court on what charge?
The nonce should be ridiculed at every opportunity.
Do your research dopey.
This guy is very good and his brother was fantastic.
Neither are not that great.
@@DJWESG1 better than Harris brothers
Religious then I take it
@@TheIrulex Christopher Hitchen’s intelligence, his knowledge and understanding, his humanity and character, his oratory skills as well as his debating skills, plus his quick wit made him undoubtedly fascinating to listen to, whether you agreed with him or not. The (admittedly long-winded) debate: The Catholic Church - a force for good? was extraordinary and the ending result largely due to CH and Fry’s almost magical ability to reason with a those of opposing views and a predominantly undecided audience.
@@micixduda prefer the Mario brothers if I'm honest.
I adore listening to this man even though I disagree with him on many issues ......
He has been sidelined like most journalists who dare write the truth.
Sidelined, like writing for the most popular paper in the country? Rigggght ok
@@ozjob actually no, he writes for the Sunday edition which is entirely separate apart from the owner & the printing presses.
@@alanhat5252 either way hardly silenced for his views.
He's on loads of media outlets as he's controversial. An easy game to play these days as you only have to say something and get 'cancelled'. Get more media coverage than ever before on the channels that like what you're saying.
Sidelined does not mean silenced - just not taken notice of.
Only two minutes in and I can't stop staring at Yas Kensington.
What is it? It intrigued me too
Sells yas. Obviously.
Thank you so much for this wonderful interview. I have been losing all hope in our country and starting to think I must be going mad. What a fantastic tonic it has been to listen to someone as intelligent as Peter, make such salient points. I must say I agree with so much of what he had to say and it is such a relief to hear someone as respected as Peter say these things. Oh for people like him to be leading the debates in Westminster! Whether we agree or not, it makes such a welcome change in this time, to hear coherent, reasoned points rather than irrational, gossip, bile and hate. Thanks again, for a glimmer of hope in dark times.
PH - "I've written a book about how the education system is not preparing people for living in a civilised society"
OD - "What are they teaching in schools?"
PH - "I don't know"
Great ad for your book mate. Can't wait to read your diatribe on your suspicions, guesses, and the deliciously ironic lack of education on the subject.
(P.S. I'm a republican)
Why not try to read some of his (many) books before spouting this drivel.
@@adambritain5774 Do any of his many books contradict what he said here? That he has written a book on the current state of the education system while admitting he has absolutely no idea what is being taught? Because if not then that is a completely irrelevant comment, and so in your own words; drivel. And if they do contradict what he says here, then is he a liar?
Either he writes books on subjects he self admittedly knows none of the core relevant information about or he lies about the amount of knowledge he has on the subject during interviews, neither of which makes me that enthused to go read through his (many) books. The quantity of them only serves as a greater waste of my time, not as a suggestion of his talents.
I'm just paraphrasing what he has said here, if any of it is drivel it is because it's coming out of his mouth.
I have have warmed to Peter Hitchens. It is very refreshing to listen to someone so intelligent and reasonable who raises issues I don’t always consider and confronts me with opinions I don’t always care to hear in a measured and thoughtful way. I agree with many things he says also. I reckon we need more people like him from all sides of the political spectrum.
Wise up he pushed coivd jab and u took it
Respect for him coming on and speaking, but there are still so many holes in his arguments.
@@ciaranmac8689 you're funny.
@Crinklechips, he *is* from all sides of the political spectrum! He hasn't held a steady viewpoint in decades.
He's quite good at arguing his current position though it may have changed by next week.
He's a lying weasel but he constructs his sentences as though his tedious assumptions and wildly inaccurate summations are laws of nature. The waffling pompous twat.
Peter is absolutely marvellous
13minutes in, he's right, visiting schools now is like visiting prisons
Absolutely correct. For a number of years, i have worked as a delivery driver for schools and it is indeed like entering prison. High security gates, barbed wire fences, cctv and a series of procedures to approve your admittance. In my case, the supply area for kitchens. Yes, children need to be safe and yet children have never been safer. Turning schools into little concentration camps is actually counterproductive to their education, mental health, social behaviour and their worldview. Infact it's a very dangerous thing and it's getting worse.
I always enjoy listening to the Hitchens brothers..coherent ,informed and reasoning in their views.v
In a post (somewhere) I asked “where are the free speech warriors?” In terms of the anti republic crackdown. Here is one 👍
Ah yes ,the free US republic, where if you insult the flag you will be arrested, as opposed to the UK where you can turn the Union Jack into a pair of hot pants and sit on it, and nothing at all will happen. All that shows is that you really know very little about Republics.
Completely agree that UK policing has lost all its tact and charm. We had the best; successive laziness by government and external pressures and corruption has eroded all of these assets.
Patel did a lot of damage
I completely disagree. I do not believe UK policing ever had tact or charm.
Leadership is full of left wingers who view all crime as a product social of social conditions not a choice people make. They also don’t believe in punishment.
@@fujohnson8667 I mean they are objectively not full of left wingers, particularly if you look at the met's response to the crimes of the conservative party during the pandemic, and its disproportionate treatment of marginalised people.
And yeah crime can be a personal choice, but if the social conditions mean that someone has to choose between starving to death and stealing food then quite clearly the social conditions are imposing a situation where committing a crime is the only reasonable option, and to expect people to take the opposite route because of a misguided ideal of "illegal = immoral" is completely inhuman.
@@MrMyers758 when your local Bobby was patrolling your streets at night, rest assured you felt safer - my parents and grandparents can speak to this. Whether you’ve had a generally positive/negative experience with members of the force or not is redundant, what matters is that once upon a time the police, as an institution, actually did their jobs and upheld public safety and order.
Peter and his late brother are absolutely riveting to listen to.
Not at all droll.
Joe you're doing some great interviews, really enjoying your coverage - keep it up!
Given my political stance I shouldn't really have time for Peter Hitchens but he is an original thinker always worth listening to. A few years ago I got involved in a brief argument about rail nationalisation on Twitter not with him directly but he was following the discussion. I was surprised to learn that he was in favour of the railways being publicly owned as they were a vital part of the nation's infrastructure and that there was nothing inherently anti Conservative in arguing for renationalisation, indeed unfettered privatisation was profoundly unconservative being an ideological as opposed to a pragmatic response.
PH is conservative, not Conservative.
Great conversation... thanks PJ and mr Hitchin
I agree with a lot of what this man says. Thoughtful and intelligent and perceptive. God we need more people like him in this country before the English are diminished totally.
True but I think that a lot of reporters go out in the street to find the most inarticulate people they can to stick a microphone at and jab questions at them There are enough intelligent people that they could interview but now they trawl social media looking for the next Katie Hopkins
A bit late for that! ☠
.watched your channel from the start and i really like how its progressing . intelligent and insightful . thanks for your hard work
I find interviews with Peter Hitchens done by more left leaning institutions actually produce some quite fascinating view points with some I can even agree with.
The fact he has deveoped a friendly rapor with Owen Jones is a welcome relief to the ideological bickering that is most mainstream political discourse
Even if you are de-arrest, if the arrest gets into the system, quite likely if you are taken to a police station, it may come up in any future enhanced DBS (formerly CRB) check, used to determine whether individuals should be barred from certain types of work.
Surely it depends on the nature of the offence? Big difference between protesting or abusing somebody vulnerable for example
A “No further action” arrest has no impact
@@matthewsmith2787 that would be nice if it were real
@@matthewsmith2787 the nature of an alleged offense is confidential, the fact of an arrest isn't.
@@CertifiedSlamboy Are you sure about that?
Plenty of republicans are well aware of the monarch’s powers or the lack thereof, Peter. And they still hold that monarchy is abhorrent. Dismissing them as ignorant saves having to justify your support of it I suppose.
Yes, that made me raise an eyebrow too and I was frustrated that Joe didn't challenge him on that. The UK monarch does have some not insignificant constitutional powers.
@@ballyhigh11 All you have to do to be considered a great thinker in Britain is talk posh.
Immumity from both civil and criminal law - sovereign immunity - isn't exactly no power.
Peter is being disingenuous. The monarch has tremendous power (and wealth). It's only the public facing aspect we see as ceremonial, but in private they still hold power.
The enemy being simply stupid is one of his cheap tricks. John Cleese is like that too. All his opponents and opposers do so through stupidity. The prism that a lot of privately educated people see through.
Js mills argument on free speech and I totally agree with him. The truth can always handle itself and so it must be scrutinised
Doubt lays at the origin of all truth. Only by questioning something can you understand it.
Just demonstrably not true though is it. Ever. Across space and time of the entirety of recorded history.
3:26 I have never heard anyone ever referring to Blair as Anthony Blair until now. That has to be a benchmark on the petty snipe chart.
He does this for Alexander Johnson as well, the point being that "Boris" (like "Tony") is a friendly character he plays to fool the public into thinking he's harmless.
Yes, you are right. Somehow it sounds worse than that bastard war criminal.
It's the first time I've happened upon an interview with PH, and had the spare time to listen. His reputation in many quarters, is that of an odious a**hole. I could never comment, one way or another, because of my previous lack of exposure to him. Having watched this, I found him to be extremely interesting, and not at all as some would say he is. Now I'm intrigued to hear more from him! Especially if his thoughts are unpopular. I'd like to make my own judgement, as to whether he can be "odious", or whether his critics lack that knowledge of tolerance.
Thanks Joe!
He's not being tested here. So it's basically an advertisement for him. Like he does in GB news and talk radio
Despise this guy's politics normally, but nearly everything he said here (bar a few points) was bang on.
he left the Conservative party in 2003 saying the Party is "the biggest obstacle to true conservatism in the UK."
@@alanhat5252 I am aware of the man's credentials as a right wing nut job. As I said I do not approve of his politics. This does not mean that he is automatically wrong about everything.
What I took away from that interview was that he was concerned about the behaviour and conduct of police officers in recent years, the worry that people have to go through before exercising their right to speech, and the disturbing shift towards presumption of guilt in the wider culture.
I do not think being worried about that kind of thing is either a left or right wing issue. Extreme or otherwise. The scenes that unfolded in Edinburgh and London over the last few days should concern ALL of us.
@@shelltune I agree we should all, left or right, be very concerned that it's happening but the fact of it happening is on this occasion very much a right-wing agenda.
Scotland and probably Wales to go independent it's coming 🏴🏴🏴🏴.
I agree - it’s on it’s way
Peter talks so much sense. Great interview.
Well, he does talk a lot. Sense, not so much!
He talks a lot of rubbish but he makes it sound like sense because he's a good speaker. The idea that free speech is always a positive is evidently not true, given that it grants immense influence to the well funded far right, who have controlled this country since the advent of facebook advertising.
@@TheDandonian Free speech is always a positive. It shows when there are good ideas an bad ideas.
For example. Who are 'far right?" I can specify who 'far left' are. I'm a centre right Classical Lineral by the way.
@@TheDandonian If the far right control this country how come it is full of immigrants?
@@ArgentWolf95 Freedom of speech is a utopian ideal yet in practice, nothing more than a trojan horse. The biggest of all the big lies is that it's a positive.
Those of us who understand marketing, know the ultimate power that it gives to the wealthy, at the expense of the rest of us.
Take our little chat here... You and I could argue as equals, exchanging points of view in a fair debate but if you were a wealthy man and you desperately wanted to win the argument in the minds of on lookers, all you'd need do is pay someone to set up multiple accounts, have them belittle my view and me, whilst repeating your views as facts.
As for who are the far-right, we've sadly reached a point where most of the cabinet are far-right. Coffey, Mogg, Farage, Braverman, Truss along with the likes of Ben Elliot, Rupert Murdoch, Andrew Neil, Dom Raab and Steve Bannon.
These people have gone to great lengths to remove our rights, trampled on the ones we still have, whilst pillaging our nation. They used freedom of speech to convince a nation that a man who spent his life campaigning against the injustice of inequality, was in fact a racist.
Tell me how that is a positive?
As my old mother used to say. What's the point in having an opinion if you keep it to yourself.
Always speak your mind.
Damn she wanted you dead.
When you can!
I have been very much moved by the public display of Stockholm syndrome amongst the British people and the way in which the police have cracked down on any dissenters.
Thank you for getting this man on. Nice to see someone who most viewers would have described as "the opposition" interviewed.
He speaks for the majority view.
@@davidreed9671 Thank You.
@@davidreed9671 he does but most people on this channel are left wing. I usually come on here just to wind them up.
@Dominion Philosophy yes I know the do but JOE is full of those north London types. I view just to keep an eye on the opposition
My advice - beware of the eloquent speaker, who is mainly wrong, when he says things you agree with eloquently.
Oh, how I miss Christopher Hitchens .
Absolutely.
He was a dreadful NeoCon and even backed the Iraq bloodbath.
Which one? The pre 911, or the post?
@@space.youtube It's true! 😂 I loved him too and he just lost his mind. My theory has always been that he felt a sense of betrayal when the left chose religious reverence over his good friend Salman Rushdie and pivoted hard. But boy what a miscalculation to defer criticism of Islam... to the Bush Administration.
He was so pretentious and wrong. His fans are insufferable with their personality disorders.
I think all the people here commenting that they don't usually agree with PH are starting to realise that the old left/right division doesn't work anymore.
Incredible interview style and technique Oli. Really enjoyed this!
"One can have an opinion provided you keep it to yourself" Refreshing to hear PH speak without the usual interruptions. PH views & opinions on BBC Question Time, were always,I felt, censured.
censored -- it's quite different.
His politics are the politics of let them starve and freeze. His nose rising in the air. Never gets stopped, just counter argued better.
PH's book , ' The Abolition of Britain ' is a diamond.
Excellent interview (as always). And Peter, as notoriously outspoken as his late brother actually made perfect sense in almost everything he expounded upon; his chrisitan beliefs and acceptance of the monarchy being symptoms of his adopted ideology - conservatism. He was, nevertheless bang-on regarding Police reform. Always a pleasure to listen to either of the Hitchens siblings... Even if one doesn't always share the same perspective.
The institutions such as the police and courts have chosen a side, and that side is "everything against the native people of Britain."
It doesn't matter what it is, if on one side is historical native British culture or peoples - that side will be persecuted.
Once you spot this, you see it everywhere.
Funnily, I was watching Grand Designs. You know the people building these ugly modernist buildings always have a huge problem with getting the planning permission?
Not this time. Why? Because the building "reflected the ethnic heritage of Nigeria." In a quiet English suburb.
The owner said "The locals all hate it, but the planning committee - they loved it."
That says everything.
The Hitchen brothers are ALWAYS worth listening to, so articulate and thoughtful, regardless of your political leanings
Especially when you don't read or can't ! Troglodyte!
@@isaackahn7188 yeah nice spin, bro
People should stop comparing Peter to Christopher Two different people with different views. I adored Christopher agreed with almost everything he thought but I feel bad for Peter having to spend his life being compared and in his shadow.
It's so hard not to, though. I do feel a bit sorry for him, though. Christopher was such a wonderful, unconventional thinker. I disagreed with him on a few topics, and yet still enjoyed and appreciated his arguments for the position he took.
Christopher was a Jacobin Polemic
@@joisagirlsname Christopher was an utterly conventional Trotskyist. He also supported the war in Iraq. By the way, Peter Hitchens opposed it (at the time).
@@recoveringscot3587 you've managed to uncover some of my points of disagreement with Christopher. Having seen the hitch vs hitch debate, I still admired his ability to argue his point. It's the WAY he thought I admired, not necessarily his conclusions. His arguments for the Iraq invasion were, I think, quite well made. Wrong, but still decent arguments, and very much in line with his personal disgust for tyranny. I can respect it, while disagreeing.
Excellent again from PH
😊🏴☠️
Very interesting .thank you for this 👍
The police swear an oath to the Monarch but the Monarch has no power! 🤔
Well Parliament is technically all under the control of the monarch.
But not really since Parliament calls all the shots.
The monarch swears an oath to the law, so help (them) G-d.
Would you rather they swore alliance to the prime minister or a corrupt politician?
I disagree with Peter Hitchens on so many issues but always find him an interesting contributor who can be relied to give an honest account of his opinions despite the particular zeitgeist.
I thought a lot of what he says was spot on here, either free speech exists or it doesn't.
There is no law against being offended
Um, yes there is a "law against being offended" -- Priti Patel's new "Police Crime Courts & Sentencing Act".
It’s a priti shity law
Section 127 of the Communications Act is that law. It's written so vague that 'grossly offensive' can be anything.
@@ArgentWolf95 i find jazz grossly offensive , some sick people still play it though
"Dearresting" specifically here relates only to "breach of the peace", which is not a statute offence. Once the person is removed from the situation and it is no longer likely the person will cause harm, they MUST be dearrested. The officers have no choice.
I agree that this needs it's own term as arrest has very specific connotations, and the fact that people reacted to this story as they did just shows that they don't understand the nuance.
Apart from that, spot on with all he said here. It's always good to hear some solid views and arguments.
He's so shrewd at identifying or diagnosing problems, but his conclusions and therefore his prescriptions for them are often the opposite of what I believe would make good policy. Certainly a very interesting character and a bold man of principle to be respected and admired.
@Dominion Philosophy wtf are you talking about
I don’t always agree with him (in fact most of the time I don’t) however I respect Peter Hitchens immensely a true independent thinker and a great writer
I sway from centre left to radical left, depending on the issue at hand, but I YEARN for sensible voices from the right wing. Peter Hitchens is one of them. More of this type of thing, please!
He's too sneaky for me.
He is far from sensible.. Case and point would be that he believes that we have never truly had a 'war on drugs' and that drug addiction is a lifestyle choice - A broken clock is still right twice a day.
Just because he sensible on the basic issue of protesting?.... really low bar right there
Maybe we could have some sense from the left occasionally?
@@mj9663 There is no war on drugs or they would go after the predominantly middle class students and kids that take them. Oh wait they can’t go for people who come from privilege.
So good to see politics joe having a free, open conversation with a proper, well informed thinker
Wouldn't say I always agree with Mr Hitchens, but I always value his opinion.
Fairly sure I've seen him in Bean and Brew coffee shop in Wallingford Oxfordsire a couple of times, which was nice.
When I watch & listen to Peter there is always a part of me that feels slightly for him. He's such an intelligent chap but had the misfortune of being Christophers brother and living his life in his brothers shadow. Its a shame because Peter has a great deal to contribute also.
He really doesn't live under Christopher's shadow at all. He's a complete different person, his own person, and is at least his equal. They appeal to completely different people.
Thank God, he wasn't corrupted by the americans, as his brother was.
@@curiositycloset2359 An under explored part of CH's life. The inability to say about any part of American life was/is bonkers. Trying to say that the American people like having no life or medical insurance because they "like living ion the edge." No one challenging him. Think he liked being around people who he considered his intellectual inferiors. Like a footballer dropping down a division.
Peter is always an interesting person to listen too and i honestly cannot say that about too many Conservatives.
He is a genuine conservative with a small c. Big C conservatives put to much trust in the Free Market. That's why Conservatives haven't conserved anything for the last 70 years.
He's a total ex Conservative
Probably because he's an old school Tory not a neoliberal nutcase like most of the contemporary right-wing. I find that I don't always agree with him, but when I do, I really agree with him.
Always have time for Peter. Perfect example of disagreeing but yet doing it in a civil and progressive manner.
My Sentiments Exactly...
Bang on but glad its not been allowed to be brushed away we dont agree on all topics but worth listening too I respect his opinion most of the time. Xx
He is completely insane but occasionally he poops out a diamond.
Elaborate?
@@MT-kx2uc Why is he insane? Sean said he occasionally poops out a diamond, now you say he spunks out bollocks, its merely a question.
@@fifab82 Is a fatherless household a great thing in 2022?
No offence Peter but I'm bloodly glad they don't let strange old men they don't know just wonder into schools to observe their teaching
Idiotic remark.
Another top notch interviewee and, indeed, interview. Thanks politicsJoe
Great interview with Hitchens here and whether I agree or disagree with him (usually the latter!), then it is always a spectacular thing. Good work.
"It just isn't the function of the police force in this country to patrol people's minds".
_Wasn't_ , it just _wasn't_ the function of the police force, the crime and sentencing act has popped the seal on that one.
:'-(
Would've loved to hear what his late brother would be saying this week.
Christopher was late for this interview? Was he meant to be there?
Hi guys. Thanks for this chat xx
What a breath of fresh air!
Sounds more and more like a parody of himself. Is this really Harry Enfield?
EXACTLY this! It's bizarre.
Maybe he see this as a place where he can cause divide and antagonise.
He has played his part in rhe culture wars, as did his brother, and his book grifts never seems to end.
Like a lot of other commenters, I don’t agree with Peter Hitchens on much but he’s correct about disagreeing with what someone else says not being a reason to prevent them from saying it.
He is the living embodiment of any argument against free speech. " I support free speech". "Of course but have you listened to Peter Hitchens?"......" well....obviously there should be some limits".
Surprisingly found this very refreshing.
Being inclusive isn’t what people really want. They want uniformity... I learned that from a great man. I have much respect for Peter.
I wrote to Mr Hitchens during the pandemic, thanking him for his continued efforts to push back against the narrative
He replied, which still means a lot to me today
It is called a restraining order.
The narrative on saving lives you mean?
Care to elaborate on what that narrative might be?
@@andrewcalladine2507 When your policy is simply "saving lives", there is no need to allow dissent, let alone to engage with what dissenters might be saying.
@@eadweard. this is a democracy with Human Rights, dissent is automatically allowed.
Always good for a debate, even if I disagree with a lot of what he says, but not how he says it.
I just saw a video of Peter raging and storming out of an interview showing bad manners... 😂
Just a little correction for Mr Hitchens but Police Officers in Scotland do not take an oath of loyalty to the Crown they merely affirm that they will discharge the duties of Constable. Totally agree with his views on the unjustified arrests there.
Like they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day. For once, I agree with him.
Because he’s defending free speech?
@@deepzepp4176 Yes. For once I agree with him since he is defending free speech.
@@Basauri48970 Would you still agree with him, if he was defending a right-wing march or protest?
@@deepzepp4176Absolutely yes. The only limit to free speech is hate speech and calls for violence. Somehow the far right and the fascists can't see the difference, or so they feign.
@@Basauri48970 “Hate speech”? Really?
I rather think the police know which way the 'political wind' is blowing when they do these things. You only have to look at the recent legislation that's been passed that limits our ability to demonstrate.
@@darrenmills9832 No, this legislation exists because Pritti Patel & those backing or supporting her are A-holes who have no respect for democracy, human rights or the rule of law.
The Suffragettes set fire to the Home Secretary's house twice & the weren't arrested for protesting because protest is an *ESSENTIAL* part of democracy.
@@darrenmills9832 No they exist because we have a fascist government that want to ban our right to protest & strike e.t.c
I watch all your youtube stuff Joe ..Thank You
I think the idea that Australia is considered a sunny Britain by the British is completely old fashioned and the perspective of Peter's class. From my experience Australia is seen as just an independent country from Britain in terms of it's individual identity as Americans, Kiwis, Canadians and South Africans.
Peter is a treasure. Christopher is dearly missed
Even as a lefty I enjoyed Peter hitchens takes during the pandemic on the overpolicing and the mandates and agreed with him. The more I watch though I find that was basically all I do agree with him on, many other issues he is remarkably uninformed, believing and saying things about weed that people would laugh at in the 90s never mind three decades on. Plus the outright homophobic ultra Christian beliefs have no place in 2022.
Tldr; dudes a bit of a relic but he is enjoyable to listen to, and we should be listening to people who are mainly wrong like this to help reinforce our own views
The things he says about weed go against conventional wisdom and fashion - so naturally conventional, fashionable people find them laughable.
I've never got the sense that he 'hates' homosexuals. And he hasn't said anything uninformed about weed; you just smoke the stuff, so don't like anyone saying anything bad about it.
I completely agree with Mr Hitchen's view of the education system.
I don't see it as a surrender to terrorism in Northern Ireland, what you prefer, the killings of the past, rather than peace.
Abolish all restrictions on free speech including so-called "hate speech" laws. No more police visits to "check your thinking".
That's not a restriction on freedom of speech. It's simply a consequence of using your free speech to deliberately cause harm. Play with fire get burnt.
My dad is a policeman and even he agrees with this
An excellent interview - thanks.