Speaking Out and then Being Attacked - John McLean Interview Part 2

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  • Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
  • Long before today's protests and SP TV Channels against Scientology, John McLean and his mother Nan McLean began speaking out about the abuses of Scientology in the early 1970s in Canada. For that they were harrassed, attacked and eventually sued by Scientology 15 times. They were at the top of L. Ron Hubbard's and Scientology's enemies list.
    John, Nan and their family spoke out on Canadian Television, testified in hearing about Scientology including with the US Internal Revenue Service and before the Clearwater, Florida public hearings on Scientology in the late 1970s.
    John McLean joins Mark Fisher and Janis Gillham Grady to continue his interview. This is Part 2 . The Link to Part 1 is below. He will be back for more stories and eventually a Live Q&A with viewers.
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  • @MsAmberSunshine
    @MsAmberSunshine 11 місяців тому +6

    Hope to see the three of you again.

  • @pegasus223
    @pegasus223 11 місяців тому +12

    This was great. Real information, no infighting. Real history. Real intelligence

  • @MadeinManitoba
    @MadeinManitoba 11 місяців тому +5

    So interesting. Every person has one more piece of historic knowledge.
    I am really appreciating learning more about Canadian experiences in Scn.

  • @mreppen1
    @mreppen1 11 місяців тому +4

    Fantastic interview John. Glad I watched it.

  • @evelynesimon5758
    @evelynesimon5758 11 місяців тому +5

    Sabotaging cars is criminal.

  • @daniellechamberlin4873
    @daniellechamberlin4873 11 місяців тому +2

    John is so interesting to listen to♥️

  • @marionrichards1559
    @marionrichards1559 11 місяців тому +3

    So interesting. Thanks for sharing your stories.

  • @dasnolonger
    @dasnolonger 11 місяців тому +2

    Two great sessions with John. His honesty & storytelling is admirable and engaging. Thanks for having John on again!

  • @donnajenkins4918
    @donnajenkins4918 11 місяців тому +3

    thanks for the story - thanks John and of course Janis, and Mark you guys do great work

  • @Dianalynne
    @Dianalynne 11 місяців тому +5

    That craven coward ran away from Morocco leaving Janice and the staff to face God knows what consequences. Despicable.

    • @JanisGillhamGrady
      @JanisGillhamGrady 11 місяців тому +1

      Excellent point! I had never thought of it that way, but your right!

    • @Dianalynne
      @Dianalynne 11 місяців тому +4

      @@JanisGillhamGrady You could have been thrown into jail for years or worse. You were all expendable. I, for one, am very happy that you survived to record and preserve the history of the reprehensible cult and the monster who created it. It is a cautionary tale.

    • @JanisGillhamGrady
      @JanisGillhamGrady 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Dianalynne Your right! One of our Moroccan employees actually did go to jail for having worked for us and was only released once he managed to get word to his uncle (who was close to the King).

    • @johnmclean6262
      @johnmclean6262 11 місяців тому +1

      I agree. That truly proves what a true coward he really was. Janis et al should never have been left with little defence. Thank god that they got away in time, or they could have been in Moroccan jails for a long time. Hubbard didn’t give a damn about anyone but himself. SO SAD.

  • @lala1004u
    @lala1004u 11 місяців тому +4

    Our government gave this cult tax exemption...shame

  • @reylaine8965
    @reylaine8965 11 місяців тому +4

    Another insightful interview about the abusive cult of Scientology. Great job!

  • @Catherine_AM
    @Catherine_AM 11 місяців тому +3

    Can't wait for your 3rd book, Janis! I heard the great review 😊
    It's all so surreal. Thanks John for sharing your life.

  • @candiceyoung8244
    @candiceyoung8244 11 місяців тому +4

    As a long time never in,always fascinated with cults,I remember watching a very intense long form interview with him his mom,and a few other people I believe on pbs,in the early 80s sometime. It's good to see John and I appreciate him being on and telling his story. Thank you all ❤

    • @johnmclean6262
      @johnmclean6262 11 місяців тому +4

      Thanks so much. Mom would be proud that what she did made some kind of difference!

    • @candiceyoung8244
      @candiceyoung8244 11 місяців тому +3

      @@johnmclean6262 you're very welcome. I'm so glad your on UA-cam telling your story and that of your family and your mom. I remember that interview so well because I remembered your mom in particular. She was very like my own mother so I'm thankful she had such a long beautiful life,and impacted others in such a caring,passionate way.

  • @barbarabell2238
    @barbarabell2238 11 місяців тому +3

    I remember stumbling on his w5 family show. Enjoy your channel and your guest. Hello from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @Elise1952
    @Elise1952 10 місяців тому +1

    Very interesting interview. Look forward to future conversations. 🇨🇦

  • @vernonsalvatierra1124
    @vernonsalvatierra1124 11 місяців тому +6

    Excellent show as always.

  • @sueirwin2189
    @sueirwin2189 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you guys for another great interview!!

  • @AuntyNise
    @AuntyNise 11 місяців тому +3

    Thank you John, Mark and Janis. Another great insight into COS. Because of John's endorsement for your book Janis I ordered it!!! Can't wait to read it 🧐 😊

  • @qienna6677
    @qienna6677 11 місяців тому +2

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day and Scientology would not have gained members if there wasn't *something* useful in it, but it wasn't anything new that Hubbard had developed.

  • @MsAmberSunshine
    @MsAmberSunshine 11 місяців тому +3

    On the replay crew. Wow really cannot say it better than pegasus223. Great information. A question for John McLean. If you mentioned it and I missed it, sorry. Who is in the photograph on the wall behind you? Is that a sketch directly behind you? Sorry I’m easily distracted by art.

  • @jackiemcginley7578
    @jackiemcginley7578 11 місяців тому +4

    GREAT VIDEO - THANK YOU!

  • @philomenamagill700
    @philomenamagill700 11 місяців тому +4

    Enjoying your video ❤

  • @necessarytrouble
    @necessarytrouble 11 місяців тому +3

    This was so good. Can’t wait for the next installment. Love the history!

  • @ryanm7171
    @ryanm7171 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for telling us such an interesting story from a SPTV-Canada perspective. I remember watching him and his family portrayed on a W5 program here on CTV on UA-cam. 🇨🇦

  • @AnonA-xu3lu
    @AnonA-xu3lu 11 місяців тому +1

    Did they find documentation of loosening the tire in the raid? I’m amazed that wouldn’t have led to a legal charge!

    • @johnmclean6262
      @johnmclean6262 11 місяців тому +1

      Yes they did, but no one’s name was attached to it. Just the written instructions to do so as I recall. Too bad, I agree. It WAS CRIMINAL.

  • @wannabetrucker7475
    @wannabetrucker7475 11 місяців тому +3

    wow !!!! That organization was so evil from the very beginning. Good to hear the facts from the people involved. Love this series with John. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @vernonsalvatierra1124
    @vernonsalvatierra1124 11 місяців тому +5

    Hi Mark and Janis. When will both of you come back LIVE??

    • @MarkFisherandJanisGillhamGrady
      @MarkFisherandJanisGillhamGrady  11 місяців тому +3

      Hi Vernon, We plan on it in a few days. We have a live set up for Scott and Karry Campbell next week for sure. Thanks for watching.

  • @pix6136
    @pix6136 11 місяців тому +1

    Does John or his mother have a book on all this?

  • @AnonA-xu3lu
    @AnonA-xu3lu 11 місяців тому

    What was the auditing level of Emil?

    • @AnonA-xu3lu
      @AnonA-xu3lu 11 місяців тому

      And the other people doing the “funeral”. Were any clear or ot?

    • @johnmclean6262
      @johnmclean6262 11 місяців тому

      YES

    • @AnonA-xu3lu
      @AnonA-xu3lu 11 місяців тому

      Wow.

  • @robindickman4419
    @robindickman4419 11 місяців тому +1

    Janis why do you always make excuses for LRHubbard?

    • @JanisGillhamGrady
      @JanisGillhamGrady 11 місяців тому +6

      Not always as you will see if you watch other videos I have done. One of the main reasons I started this channel was to correct misinformation. If LRH was not there, and I know it for a fact, that is not an excuse.

    • @hankzoerb317
      @hankzoerb317 11 місяців тому +1

      Not really an explanation Janis??