I am an ER nurse and this was so illegal as to be insane. You cannot force a blood draw without a warrant or consent PERIOD. Every ER nurse I know was so pissed at this.
For real, it's so obvious that all this cop knows is "exigent circumstances = no warrant" so he just keeps on repeating "exigent circumstances" while ignoring just about every law related to this ever.
@@lorehammer40k4I just wish she would’ve thought to ask him what the exigent circumstances were. I think that would have really thrown him for a loop trying to explain how someone injured by a suspect they were chasing just had to have their blood drawn right then and there.
@@mikeonthebayou he probably would have just said it was that he needed it to do what he was “lawfully ordered” to do. I doubt it would have really tripped him up or made him rethink anything considering how weak his initial argument / reasoning was in the first place.
@@MrDeelightful I'm not even sure he was capable of thinking about it that deeply. I bet his training says to make sure he says "exigent circumstances" for the camera whenever he's trying to circumvent a warrant, just like they train him to repeatedly yell "stop resisting" while assaulting everyone regardless of any actual resistance.
The nurse was only doing what she was told. she was not an individual but an agent of the hospital. Arresting her would not get the LEO the blood. The order has to come from someone above her. Nurses are not allowed to draw blood with out a doctors order. When given the standards that the police gave then one when blood can be draw. Exigent circumstance was on the legal document. When the watch commander was told this. He should of order a warrant to be . . . oh wait they don't have probable cause. SO they have no rights for the blood.
I disagree with you about the hospital because I has seen a similar situation and the hospital protected the nurse. The hospital lawyers, higher ups, and security was on scene to protect the nurse but this hospital higher up was talking through the phone. That this why they, the hospital, and the police department with her
@@hihihihihello You do know that one does NOT "put someone on" a defibrillator. They simply USE the defibrillator. Your point was what?? NOTHING. That's what.
If you’re an officer and get fired for illegal actions while on duty such as this one, you should be put on a permanent list that forever bans you from holding a law enforcement position ever again.
@@Drealmers Thank you it’s so annoying when cats do something illegal the bike all this just lose her job. If this was a normal person you do something really all you do is fuck in jail.
This was infuriating to watch but I applaud that young lady for her willingness to go to jail to protect a patient. Apparently some people are loyal to their oath, unlike others.
Am glad she’s probably gonna be paid well for this unlawful arrest i hope she can retire early and enjoy her life she deserves it not a lot or doctors or nurses would question authority but she die because she has a brain unlike most people now a days
she handled herself excellently; though anyone who is aware of the law would be more than happy to take that ride in this moron's squad car for the inevitable payout
My wife was an RN charge nurse in a hospital and i can gurantee she would have done the same thing this nurse did. She was very good at protecting her patients well being and their rights. Nurses are special people and very devoted to their patients. My wife was a nurse for 45 years. God bless all nurses for they truly are special and needed.
Yes for sure. When I go to the hospital for family I've 80percent of the time bought them donuts or hot chocolates because they are literally human angels.
It’s so creepy that he’s focusing on this one young nurse and threatening ONLY her and none of her superiors. Definitely some psychological issues with that one. What a freak.
For real. She was resisting, just legitimately questioning his authority. Yet he went after her like she was an armed escaped convict. Dude no doubt beats his wife.
The hospital administrator who hid in his office behind a telephone line and left this nurse to get roughed up by Barney Fyfe is a class acr too. What a schmuck.
The fact that Payne didn’t apologize means he didn’t want to admit fault and just blamed his superior officer who in turn blamed him for not getting all the facts. Large egos cost the tax payers money. She was defending her unconscious patient’s constitutional rights and didn’t let them win. Good for her!!
That phrasing is always used to imply its the right way to do their work while it means absolutely nothing. Do they teach malicious semantics at Police training?
@@stephengrigg5988 And she stated it was a memorandum of understanding between the police and the hospital, so it wasn't just a unilateral policy. The Police Department had agreed to those guidelines.
They are violating a patients rights and are arresting a charge nurse for protecting the patients' rights and for following hospital policies and procedures. They need a warrant or court order signed by a JUDGE.
She should have been given a, " huge Promotion and Raise!",.. especially for "Protecting the patient Rights, while he was unconscious and willing to go to jail for her patient!",... She is the most responsible and respectful NURSE I have ever seen and heard,. Considering most of the time,.. a lot of them are unable to deal with the public and treat incoming people like they are not worthy of their time or having to do paperwork,.. but don't get me wrong,.. I do have the upmost respect for the ones who love their job and helping citizens with their needs,.. it's the few who just want to sit back and earn their living for doing nothing!😮 !.. as the saying goes,;.. "If you can't stand the heat!,.. get out of the kitchen!",... In other words,.. When you feel that the job is too much for you or too stressful,.. get another job or quit!.., B4 you make yourself and your fellow workers look like they lack any kind of "Empathy!"... 😮!😢!..😢 Stay home and take care of yourself and your family,...😮
(If there is a person to be given an F- or F-- , then it is this officer, and yes, she should get a honorary medal of citizens right protection of some sort...)
Ironically, it’s not the first time she almost got a medal. She was an Olympic skier, and finished 9th in Nagano. What an interesting life she’s had already.
Apparently he does not understand federal laws concerning patients' rights. He was just looking for a reason to bully a woman. The only surprising thing is that he did not get violent with her.
I don't know why there are only 2 replies to you perfect comment. You should have thousands of comments within 1 minute of people agreeing with you 100%
And how about an F for the University Police Officers (Hospital Police) for not stepping in and protecting their fellow employee. Instead they were along for the ride and allowed someone to be kidnapped right in front of them.
I agree someone needs to rexzam his potion as sucrity. I would hate to think that was what the hospital had to protect me walking to my car at the end of the day .
For real! As soon as I hear that guard say, "If they arrest you, I'm not stopping them." I thought damn that's gotta hurt. Good for her, though in the end she came out on top. Also, this is the first A+ I've seen given out.
A nurse protecting HER patient...a saint on earth!!! She is what all nurses should be when dealing with patient rights! What an honorable person in an honorable profession!!!
My mom once had to run outside, leading hospital staff, to break windows and evacuate elderly patients during a fire. I can picture her in the same spot doing the same thing as this nurse, along with all the other nurses she worked with. Nurses intimidate me, honestly, and I think these cops were afraid she was tougher than they were! And she was.
"I'm just a nurse trying to protect the patient...". My heart broke for her. They bullied an innocent person who was just doing her job. Shame on them!
They should've worked harder to protect us patients from tyranny covid rules, especially not letting your mom,spouse, in the hospital room with your dying kid cause of covid rules.
@@iwishpeoplecaredagain Did you forget that dying kids probably don't want covid to expedite the process? yall would be funny if you weren't real but sadly you are
One of the officers asks the other "why don't they get a search warrant" and the arresting officer answers "they don't have PC." They knew they were in the wrong.
@@amerikanviking forefathers has 11 letters... I can't count past 7. You must be a nerd! Remember, stupidity is the most dangerous weapon in the known universe.
may I ask you how you deal with truck drivers involved in fatal accidents? Federal motor vehicle regulations require blood tests of all CDL drivers involved in fatal accidents whether or not the driver is at fault. This patient was a truckdriver involved in a fatal accident. Now, the way the officers treated the nurse was wrong and they were trying to get the blood under the wrong laws. And the hospital has poorly trained their ER staff on the matter of dealing with CDL drivers involved in fatal accidents.
What terrifies me the most when officers knowingly on body camera act like this and then say they have 20-30 plus years on the force. Just imagine how they acted and treated people before they had body cameras, if this is their “churched” up behaviour on body camera. HORRIFYING!!
Not only claiming that they're on the job more than 20 years and basically admitted that they've been getting away with breaking the law during that period!
I’m a full-time bedside RN in a hospital as well. It’s hard to imagine being under so much applied pressure to submit to an unlawful order, and still standing firm. She’s a hero.
Absolutely. If she gave blood without the warrant she could lose license and get sued personally and it could definitely prolly be a HIPPA violation is assume
She doesn't have a choice. If she had taken that man's blood, she would be opening the hospital up for a possible lawsuit, losing her job and possibly her license. She's not taking a stand out of mortality. She's doing what is required of her because she understands the violation that would entail.
"She's the one who told me no" is very telling. Someone told him no and now he's threatening her and making her feel scared for her freedom. Disgusting.
You tell almost any cop no and they'll act like this. They're soooo used to people bending over and kissing their a$$es that when someone doesn't it doesn't compute to them and they don't know what to do.
I was just thinking the same thought; because she told 'him no'!! They hate when people stand up for themselves or obey the law! These "officers" feel they can bully the public and usually do not know the law themselves, sad!!
You are way safer unconscious with a licensed nurse than you are walking down the road in the vicinity of a cop. We uphold our practice acts and integrity. There's no way we could or would do this job based on wage alone because we don't get paid enough for what it is.
A nurse so concerned about you getting busted with being on drugs or drinking while driving? Or why would you not let them check your blood? I hope my nurse gives it to them so they know I'm clean or that if I am on something I will be punished for it. But thats just my take and also I dc if it breaks any amendments or some shit like that
"I know the law I've been doing this for 22 years" That's the most terrifying fucking statement ever uttered by a peace officer police officer any authority in this United States
Don't forget the 26 year Detective Payne was employed. Between the two, Salt Lake City has dodged a lawsuit bullet with combined 48 years of bad policing.
Yes, that was what really got my blood boiling, supervisor shows up and is basically gaslighting her "why are you involved...do you know him...etc...etc". I read a long while back that this whole thing is because they wanted to get a blood draw for any chemicals because the person/family may sue the department for the collision because of a police chase. So if they had even the slightest BAC/drug it gives the police an out in court. Mind blowing.
@jason M 100% agreeed when the officer said “I’m trying to help him too” made my blood boil because he had zero care for the person he was just trying to cover for the department. Absolutely sickening but unsurprising due to the state of our police state.
No, she was actually breaking the law if state law required a sample in the event where injuries result from a motor accident, and hospital policy can not say otherwise. What saved her and the hospital in this case was his animalistic behaviour because his ego was bruised. Would you feel the same if your child was killed by a drunk driver and she refused the draw
Personal Update: Although Det. Jeff Payne was fired for the incident, he still claims he did nothing wrong. He sued the City of Salt Lake City for 1.5 million for wrongful termination. He lost and his appeal was denied. He then was hired next door in Weber County as a Jailer. - The University of Utah medical center changed their policies now to where the police cannot contact anybody in the hospital until cleared by upper management.
Great, so they hired on someone known to be a bully and willing to violate people's rights as a jailer? Fantastic decision. Wonderful. There's absolutely no chance of him taking out his temper on prisoners! Or abusing their rights because he likes to throw his weight around and demands immediate compliance. No sirree bob.
@@sallyswimmer8524police entities are getting so desperate now cause nobody wants to be a cop. So that’s why they just transferring or holding on to corrupt ones
Given Utah's culture and it's dominant religion what do you expect? Of course he did nothing wrong he was "just following orders" you know that old Nazi line that brought about one of the greatest tragedy of the 20th century. Ordinary people are not allowed to think when a order is given "the brethren (authorities) have already done all the thinking" Once after 38 years I understood how dangerous the culture is, I knew it was time to get out of Zion!
I’m a retired paramedic. I’ve experienced cops interfering with me performing my duties to save a victim’s life. The cop was fired and the patient lived.
Tracy and Payne should both be FIRED. These cops are out of control and they have NO IDEA OF THEIR JOB, TO PROTECT OR RIGHTS. Not to use the threat of arrest to extort or coerce people to give up their rights. Which is exactly what happened. They used the threat of unlawful arrest to extort and coerce a nurse to illegally violate someone else's rights who she was in charge of at the time. DISGRACEFUL.
@@NathanHedglin blanket idealism like this is the reason innocent cops get killed in assasinations. Stop being negligent and realize that there are good and bad eggs everywhere in society
The worst part of all this: the one officer asked Det. Payne why he doesn't get a search warrant. Det., replied they didn't have the "probable cause." Man...that shoulda been a "clue" to all involved.
Did you also hear him try and claim the blood draw would somehow "also protect" the patient? Yeah cause trying to find evidence that the victim is somehow at fault really protects people. SMH total scumbag officer.
Exactly,. And because he didn't, he is every bit as guilty as cop and Lt. It shows the lack of training, twisted knowledge of job description and corrupted professional integrity. This runs uphill to the entire chain of command.
Yep. Exigent circumstances require probable cause to be present. He was just ignorant of how the law works, it's scary how many police officers don't know the law.
This nurse is a hero, she stood alone against literal government tyranny and intimidation. Nurses by themselves are already extremely unappreciated and disrespected but this takes it to another level.
In the UK. the Nursing and Midwifery states that the patient's nurses are the patient's ADVOCATE. An unconscious patient CANNOT CONSENT, they had NO warrant AND the patient was NOT under arrest. END OF!! Well done Alex!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
It warmed my heart to see damn near her whole building staff stand up when he said he was going to arrest her. She's got true friends in her corner! Glad this cop was fired. 👏🏿
The cop literally didn't care that she was holding a copy of the law in her hand and being told by MULTIPLE people that he wasn't legally-allowed to get a blood draw. And the cop himself didn't have to pay a single penny of the $500k lawsuit he caused due to his ignorance/negligence/malice.
Well I blame the 'city'. The city needs to be the main accountability. They need to suffer the economic loss to let them know they need to hire better/train better.
I am of the mind that these kinds of cases should be treated like child support is treated in the US. Base it on what we know the person is capable of making. If you made 50K per year, you need to pay at least half, if not more, toward what is owed on the lawsuit. If you can make 50K, but voluntarily choose to take a lower-paying job, you should have to pay the same amount, regardless. A refusal to pay will result in a seizure of assets, and potential jail time. In addition, the debt owed to the individual should be treated like a student loan in that it does not go away by declaring bankruptcy. The taxpayers should DEFINITELY not be the ones who have to pay for the poor decisions made by officers.
The cops request should have ended right there when she read that paper to them that was the agreement between the hospital and the police. I come in the hospital and the nurse they did an outstanding job those two police however should be in the unemployment line neither one of them deserve to even be in any kind of law enforcement. I doubt if they could even make it as a security officers
This nurse should be the poster child of excellent nursing care and patient advocate. It's not always just about physical nursing care but standing firm for your patient. My daughter is a charge nurse I pray she would be able to emulate Nurse Wubbels in the face of such condescending and aggressive confrontation. Im sure she will though after seeing this.These 2 people should never have been allowed to remain in law enforcement.
I respect this nurse for having the willpower to simultaneously protect her unconscious patient's rights while questioning the officer's ethics. Great work!
It is low key crazy how police officers are the only ones without ethical requirements as part of their contracts. McDonald workers have higher liability.
No amount of training will help these cops it’s a personality disorder you can’t train a good personality. Jerks have to change on themselves by having a humble experience.
As an ICu nurse this situation greatly pained me. Any nurse would put herself in the way of cop’s threatening their patients. This was ridiculous from the moment I saw it and i was delighted at the fallout these officers faced!
That cop should have known that he had no chance of making any nurse do that even at gun point. Then got his little ego butt hurt and retaliated for not being obeyed. It's like feeling offended because momma bear won't let you take a cub.
I was surprised her colleagues didn't use their brains and have every single one of them read the same exact policies while refusing the blood draw. They wouldn't have arrested them all
It takes 4 years to train a nurse. How long does it take to train a cop?! I‘m a retired nurse. I worked with cops occasionally while on ER duty. Fortunately I never ran across cops that have such a short fuse as this bunch does. Bravo, sister, I’m proud of you!
" I'm either leaving with blood in vials or a body in tow" is one of the most tyrannical sentences I have ever heard. Standing ovation for that nurse for standing up to these petty tyrants when most others would have caved with the threat of arrest. This cop thinks that just wanting something is "exigent circumstances."
“…body in tow…” does nothing but make it clear that they do not view this innocent nurse as a human being. She’s nothing more than a “body”. And, SHE isn’t the one refusing the blood draw. The refusal is at the behest of the facility where she just happens to be working. These imbecilic LEOs aren’t even “targeting” the right people by trying to arrest this woman. It would be like being told to leave a movie theatre by the owner, and then turning around and punching the janitor in the face. You don’t take out your frustrations with someone who has no control over the situation whatsoever. This whole situation is miles away from appropriate conduct and is just a hugely unnecessary display of incompetence and sheer stupidity.
Imagine how these dishonest, arrogant abusers treat their families. After all, have you ever looked into the studies about law enforcement personnel and perpetration of domestic violence?
I am completely flabbergasted how these cops thought they had exigent circumstances for a blood draw from a person that was a victim of the pursuit they were a part of? What probable cause could they possibly have?
Thank you for your service to our freedom. I was thinking the same thing, this woman deserves recognition for her brave stance on our rights and then wanting to help others with the money she received. I give her as much respect as those who bravely fought with their lives for our freedom and rights. She is a hero.
@@joshuagary2745 haha the way you described it as “slapped my cuts” made me lol. Nurse, cop, veteran, it doesn’t matter, there are good and bad people that end up in the same jobs. We should recognize the good ones and expose the bad ones. It doesn’t matter if you were in cuffs you still at least deserved to be treated humanely, unless you were being arrested as a pedo. I hope you are doing well now.
I love Nurse Wubbels. Stood her ground and protected her patient. She is an outstanding representation of a nurse. Sucks that she had to go through that emotional distress, but I hope the $500k helped her move forward. Much love to Nurse Wubbels. My hero.
Unfortunately she and her management were wrong in this case. The exigent circumstances apply to a situation where there is a traffic fatality and the suspect is unconscious. Under those circumstances cops are allowed to legally draw blood from the unconscious suspect to determine blood alcohol level. Hospital policy does not trump the law.
The fact he never intended on apologizing just shows how unfit is was for that position. Can’t imagine how he treated normal citizens if he treated a nurse like that.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 You are 100 % correct. Actually, Florida's governor would pay him a $5000 bonus to come and be a corrupt cop here. Florida, where corrupt politicians, corrupt cops and pedophiles are protected
Once she asked "is the patient under arrest?" and he said "no" Then asked "was there a warrant for his arrest?" and again he said "no". That alone was enough for her to say no.
Yeah, and honestly, the police should have to arrest everyone in the hospital who’s capable of doing a blood draw, but refuses. She’s not the only one there capable, he could arrest all the doctors and nurses.
Another reason why all police officers should be compelled to undergo Constitutional law training before being certified as an officer. A 4 year law degree would eliminate many of these tyrants before they get to strong-arm people and violate basic, Constitutionally protected rights.
Brian Mullagan, also if qualified immunity was abolished you would see a different approach from these types of officers who think they are untouchable because they wear a badge
He was so smug. I’m sure it was a terrifying experience for her but in the end totally worth it for $500k and the satisfaction knowing that guy lost his job.
The bastard got an undisclosed payout though! Everything is set up to the benefit of cops, no matter how bad, deranged, or corrupt they are. What a joke.
The copsplaining to the nurse was unbelievable! They got off light only having one cop fired and a measly $500k. Big shout outs to the nurse who stood her ground!
@@andrewgriffin9244500k doesn't make anyone rich nowadays. You may be able to buy a house or live comfortably for 5-10 years, depending on if you have kids or not, but rich? Nah, you need like 5 million.
@@mikeveis2395this country might be invaded one day. What role do you think “cops” like this would play? The answer- whoever was paying the cops would control them.
@@cosmicnightmare4401there’s a town cop like this where I live. Tried to date my mom all throughout high school, she always rejected him. He would follow my mom around town, in his cruiser, pulling her over when ever he could. I couple years back he pulled her over and tried to come up with something to get her in trouble with so my mom brought all this up to the police chief and now he’s not allowed anywhere near my mom, if she ever were to commit any crime/ infraction and he’s the responding officer, he has to call another cop in because he was absolutely obsessed with her. 🙃 he’s also a huge racist and I’m mixed so… that’s probably a part of it too
@@gabriellanicole4179 I’m so sorry you had to deal with that, that sounds like a horrible situation to be in I hope you mom is ok too that would be so stressful
@@cosmicnightmare4401 my mom hasn’t had any issues with him for a few years (thank god) but he’s super weird and most of our town’s cops are super corrupt. This guy specifically, he got caught messing around with under age girls while he was on duty, in his cruiser, and got suspended with pay for like a week and he’s still on the force somehow 🙃 not to mention when he hit my ex fiancé (who was driving my car at the time) with his cruiser and then tried to ticket my ex 3 days later for scratching the paint of his push bar, as if he didn’t crack my whole front bumper
I can't imagine how many people that he'd have assaulted and falsely arrested - all because they never had body cameras! If he's prepared to lie in order force the nurse to comply,; knowing that he was on camera - how far would he be prepared to go with no records of what was happening. 🤬
The part where he arrested her was so heartbreaking to watch. You can hear in his tone of voice when he yells at her that he's getting some sort of enjoyment out of that and it's disgusting
@generic andre exactly they moved him elsewhere and he's still working all those cops should be fired the other cop lied too and the coward second cop on scene didn't want to break their gay thin blue line and do right thing
Once admitted, the hospital assums responsibility for the patient. Had this nurse allowed the blood draw, the hospital could potentially be found to be complicit in violating the patient's rights.
The fact that she would put herself at an unreasonable risk for the sake of her patient, refusing to bend on her integrity... this is truly someone I could trust with my life. Undeniably, she's in the right profession.
@@baldisaerodynamic9692 Not exactly a payday, and it would have been a lot more if she had sued the Police Department instead of accepting the Settlement that was quickly drafted to cover their behinds. She also donated a portion of the money to other victims of police wrongdoing who can't afford the fees to get the body cam video. And then there is the 30% or more that went to her attorney, and then Uncle Sam and his State Tax variant got their share too. She probably ended up with less than $200k, and ended up emotionally scarred forever.
But the guilty person died. But he wanted to badly to look like a hero. The cop says he's looking out for the burn victim. ??? This guys believes his own lies.
To add insult to injury, the cops didn't even need to chase the guy in the first place. Cops caused the accident. Unless the suspect was a mass shooter or something, all they did was put hundreds of peoples' lives in danger with their reckless driving.
Best part of the video: 6:34 where the other officer there asks the Detective (quietly), "Why don't we just get a search warrant" and the Detective says "Because we don't have PC" - in other words, he knows he has no probable cause to get a warrant to get the blood - that admission right there shows the officer knew he couldn't get it lawfully so he is trying to use threats to get it instead.
@@tmac9208yup... he probably caused the accident and is trying to manipulate the results to pin it all on the victim... Absolutely no probable cause...
Cops do not like being told no and that triggers their aggressive behavior. This is a perfect example of that. Before any of this happened the cops needed to review the law and the hospital guidelines along with the circumstances of the case. If they had done this none of this should have happened but they let their anger override all of that.
I'm a medical professional and followed this story closely when it happens. One aspect of this case not presented in this video is that Detective Payne also had a side job as an EMT. He was caught on tape commenting that he could retaliate against the hospital for Ms Wubbles refusal, saying "“I‘ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,”. The ambulance service he worked for fired him a week of the tapes being released. I can see why it wasn't included in this video as it doesn't really raise any legal issues, but it does speak to Payne's sense of entitlement.
Imagine having the cops chase someone to crash into you, putting your life in jeopardy, then arresting your nurse for not allowing them to violate your rights.
What if the guy that was DUI killed someone from your family and cannot be blood tested because he is under investigation? Would you still protect him?
This made me so angry. He missed a teachable moment when the nurse printed the Hospital policy but I guess there's nothing in the world you can teach a "Mr-know-it-all". What a champ this nurse was 🏆
What I want to understand is what the cop thought would happen after he arrested the nurse. Did he think he was then going to be able to re-enter the hospital and the rest of it’s staff allow them to do the blood draw? Mean, how many nurses and doctors was he willing to arrest?
Badass. What on earth do you mean. This is exactly the nurse you would want looking after you if you were unconscious, she was magnificent however, I doubt your cokify brain could understand that. Time to go play with your Lego
If her boss said no and the admi was there and the cop wanted to arrest someone, it should be the admin. He is giving the order to say no. But this cop just wanted to push a lady around. That just makes him a _____. Fill in the blank. Fire him!
@@margolenney6032I think you’re the one who plays with Lego! Cokinator was complementing the nurses standing up to the cops and protecting her unconscious patient!
You can hear the self-righteous arrogance of these egotistical cowards in their voice, including the supervisor. Nothing but predators and bullies taking joy in abusing.
HIPPA law is federal which outweighs any policy a city police department has put in place. This guy should know this and he wants to be right here no matter what.
The victim(who passes from his injuries) she protected was a part time police officer from another state hit head on while driving an 18 wheeler. His department sent out a statement thanking the Nurse for protecting his rights
Two victims, the unconscious victim of the crash and the nurse, who was the victim of the officers trying to haul her off to jail, for not allowing the officer to violate a patient's 4th Amendment right.
Oh my God! I'm a nurse, it is our job to advocate for our patients.. if the hospital says no we can't go against that. This is absolutely horrible. I'm so proud of her for standing her ground. She is a great nurse!!!
I would prefer that you had a conscience, and then followed it, rather than feeling forced to submit to some authority. That's exactly the mentality of the cop: submit to authority!
This video never ceases to make my blood boil. She was doing her job. I love how the detective got on TV and cried that he was unfairly fired for this incident
Couldn’t agree more. Her demeanor stays so calm while she defends her patient while being threatened and bullied by MULTIPLE police. takes more strength than I have 😂
Police dept got off cheap. I bet if the nurse had taken it to court she would have gotten 3 times that amount. That angel of a nurse probably isn't the spiteful type.
@@bustersmith5569 She got half a million without filing a lawsuit, meaning not paying court costs, attorney’s costs and attorney’s cut. She didn’t have to go through the nightmare of recalling her abuse at the hands of these tyrants. She hit the Lotto.
Victorious1 said, "... nurses don’t play about our care for our patients, they are like our kids as long as they are in our care." YES, as a child is helpless, the patient (especially an unconscious patient) is totally dependent on the care of those charged with that care. No one standing for them, except good nurses like this!!!
This incident is a perfect example of why you should know your constitutional rights, especially when dealing with law enforcement. Most of our police do not know any titles and details of any amendments. My heart goes out to the brave nurse for protecting, hers and everyone in that hospitals rights!
Unlike cops, nurses receive extensive training on their moral/legal obligations and patient rights, plus the criminal, civil and employment penalties they may face for misconduct. I trained in the 1970s and even then those were made very clear.
Is kinda funny when the Lt. said that he has been doing it for 22 years. Can you imagine someone has been doing his job wrong for 22 years and still working? Makes you wonder how many times has he been wrong for 22 years? How many times did that kind of unlawful bullying worked over 22 years? Literally bring shame and bad names to those who were doing their job right and risking their lives for the rest of us.
Thing is, if the rules are clear cut like that in the hospital and its stated clearly. You should all stand by it. If you get arrested its a pay day. Its like someone getting hit by a city work truck or company vehicle, its a form of lotto. The cops were trying to exploit a loophole but the hospital records had no gray area, it was black and white. 1 of these 3 conditions had to be met and neither of them were. Instant lawsuit win for the cop trying to arrest someone following hospital rules which almost always supersedes the law because of HIPA.
@@XultanisDragon Problem is people who think of it as a payday. As long as people keep talking a payoff instead of insisting the cops go to jail. It will keep happening.
They were trying to avoid a lawsuit from the car chase in order to have evidence that the victim was impaired and thereby held some liability for the crash. They jumped out of the pan into the fire.
Tyrants. "I've done this for 22 years." That one statement sent chills down my spine. Imagine how many rights were violated under his watch.
Abusers
He didn't say 22 yrs, he said "22 F*CKIN' YEARS"
"I've harrassed, bullied, terrorized, and abused others rights for 22 years"
Wonder how many times the police got away with this method of getting blood
id bet he has been allowed to retire collecting tax payer money after being such a shit cop for 20+ years
I am an ER nurse and this was so illegal as to be insane. You cannot force a blood draw without a warrant or consent PERIOD. Every ER nurse I know was so pissed at this.
For real, it's so obvious that all this cop knows is "exigent circumstances = no warrant" so he just keeps on repeating "exigent circumstances" while ignoring just about every law related to this ever.
@@lorehammer40k4 "This one law agrees with me right now so it's the only one that matters"
@@lorehammer40k4I just wish she would’ve thought to ask him what the exigent circumstances were. I think that would have really thrown him for a loop trying to explain how someone injured by a suspect they were chasing just had to have their blood drawn right then and there.
@@mikeonthebayou he probably would have just said it was that he needed it to do what he was “lawfully ordered” to do. I doubt it would have really tripped him up or made him rethink anything considering how weak his initial argument / reasoning was in the first place.
@@MrDeelightful I'm not even sure he was capable of thinking about it that deeply. I bet his training says to make sure he says "exigent circumstances" for the camera whenever he's trying to circumvent a warrant, just like they train him to repeatedly yell "stop resisting" while assaulting everyone regardless of any actual resistance.
Bravo to that nurse and hospital for not allowing these corrupt cops to bully them into breaking federal law.
Tell the officer that he either gets a warrant or they will have HIM arrested tor trespassing.
Notice how quick they turned on each other when shit hit the fan
The nurse was only doing what she was told. she was not an individual but an agent of the hospital. Arresting her would not get the LEO the blood. The order has to come from someone above her. Nurses are not allowed to draw blood with out a doctors order. When given the standards that the police gave then one when blood can be draw. Exigent circumstance was on the legal document. When the watch commander was told this. He should of order a warrant to be . . . oh wait they don't have probable cause. SO they have no rights for the blood.
I disagree with you about the hospital because I has seen a similar situation and the hospital protected the nurse. The hospital lawyers, higher ups, and security was on scene to protect the nurse but this hospital higher up was talking through the phone. That this why they, the hospital, and the police department with her
What federal law?
“She’s the one that told me no” 😭 what an absolute disgrace
…?
@@_YohAsakura_7:30
Where’s the “she should have just complied” comments
He's a grown child in uniform. A dangerous thing.
@@henningeide8355very….
That nurse is a freaking hero, standing up for herself and her patients rights. Bravo
Wonder how many defibrillators she put people on..
And then for supporting the department!
@@hihihihihello You do know that one does NOT "put someone on" a defibrillator. They simply USE the defibrillator. Your point was what?? NOTHING. That's what.
@@davidhbrown9767 nice comeback
@@J04R Well, what that person said was just silly.
If you’re an officer and get fired for illegal actions while on duty such as this one, you should be put on a permanent list that forever bans you from holding a law enforcement position ever again.
If only. Then both those officers and many more who shouldn't be there would be out of places they should never have been to begin with.
Getting fired is not enough. He should be jailed too
@@Drealmers
Thank you it’s so annoying when cats do something illegal the bike all this just lose her job. If this was a normal person you do something really all you do is fuck in jail.
They have a Brady list, but not sure if this circumstance would put them on it. It's a bad cops list.
Or until you pay off the full settlement out of pocket
This was infuriating to watch but I applaud that young lady for her willingness to go to jail to protect a patient. Apparently some people are loyal to their oath, unlike others.
Am glad she’s probably gonna be paid well for this unlawful arrest i hope she can retire early and enjoy her life she deserves it not a lot or doctors or nurses would question authority but she die because she has a brain unlike most people now a days
She also prevented the hospital from a possible law suit if she did draw his blood illegally.
she handled herself excellently; though anyone who is aware of the law would be more than happy to take that ride in this moron's squad car for the inevitable payout
She is an amazing nurse and I hope the hospital did something special for her.
This video was edited, I suggest watching the complete 19 minute version.
My wife was an RN charge nurse in a hospital and i can gurantee she would have done the same thing this nurse did. She was very good at protecting her patients well being and their rights. Nurses are special people and very devoted to their patients. My wife was a nurse for 45 years. God bless all nurses for they truly are special and needed.
Good nurses make all the difference to help you recover. I have all the respect and love for them.
Yes for sure. When I go to the hospital for family I've 80percent of the time bought them donuts or hot chocolates because they are literally human angels.
I hope this patient realizes how hard this woman fought to protect his rights while he was unconscious and fighting for his life
I believe the driver was a part time police officer too and he died from his injuries.
@@musclesmouse... so sad. Life is fragile.
I hope this cop ends up with her as his nurse some day...
@@idlehand2526 ... and as much as he doesn't deserve it, she would be perfectly professional
@@DebiQ1830 I'M so petty that if I were his nurse I would go ABOVE AND BEYOND to be extra sweet and caring to the guy 😅
It’s so creepy that he’s focusing on this one young nurse and threatening ONLY her and none of her superiors. Definitely some psychological issues with that one. What a freak.
Ikr and the way he ran up to her and grabbed her.. like bro was waiting for it😭
Looks like sounds like acts like.
IT'S A PIG
For real. She was resisting, just legitimately questioning his authority. Yet he went after her like she was an armed escaped convict. Dude no doubt beats his wife.
They’re like that. A lot of cops are sexist
@@Kidbuckedexactly
he's threatening you because he's a cop. He over-reacts because he's a cop. He cost his city 500K because he's a cop. What a class act.
Well, not really because he's a cop. He's dickhead that became a cop, and that make it easier to be a dickhead.
What he said!
The hospital administrator who hid in his office behind a telephone line and left this nurse to get roughed up by Barney Fyfe is a class acr too. What a schmuck.
Yup. Cops are just straight up evil nowadays
And his boss backs him up - because he's a cop.
The fact that Payne didn’t apologize means he didn’t want to admit fault and just blamed his superior officer who in turn blamed him for not getting all the facts. Large egos cost the tax payers money. She was defending her unconscious patient’s constitutional rights and didn’t let them win. Good for her!!
As a nurse I can say that what she did is not easy and she deserves praise for protecting her patient 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
💯!!
I would have no problem saying "Absolutely No" on behalf of my patients.
It is easier said than done. I hope all nurses would do that but it is hard to know what you would do if you are not the one in her position.
Nurse Hubble deserves more than $500,000 in damages. Add another digit is more appropriate and sue the two cops under 42 USC §1863.
Agreed! She's a literal hero! ACAB
I love when someone admits they have been doing their job wrong for 22 years.
Only and always only when this bad cops get court
Good one 😅😅😅👍👍👍
Yup!
Yup … and somehow magically that makes him an attorney that knows all the laws .. fking cop is a moron for 22 years and he admitted
That phrasing is always used to imply its the right way to do their work while it means absolutely nothing. Do they teach malicious semantics at Police training?
This nurse is a legit pro in her field..the hospital should be grateful to have her
yeah im only a few minutes in and can already tell she’s a badass
@J former Olympian, has a lot of grit
@@basilman121 true dat
The Salt Lake City Police are now forbidden from having any contact with hosital staff as a result of this incident.
whaaat
Given how this interaction went down, it's probably for the best.
I mean... she literally printed out the rules and read them to the cop and he was still stuck on "she no listen to me".
@@stephengrigg5988 And she stated it was a memorandum of understanding between the police and the hospital, so it wasn't just a unilateral policy. The Police Department had agreed to those guidelines.
Good‼️
The Nurse Manager said something loud and clear: "You are making a huge mistake right now."
Truer words were never spoken!
He also said "are you gonna arrest the messenger?"
Det. Payne took that personally
"If we are doing something wrong there are civil remedies" .. $500k a firing and demotion later
@@jossilyns THAT PART
They are violating a patients rights and are arresting a charge nurse for protecting the patients' rights and for following hospital policies and procedures. They need a warrant or court order signed by a JUDGE.
This lady is a hero. Protecting an unconscious person from unreasonable search. She honestly deserves a medal
She got 500k for it, rightfully so.
She also donated money what a G
She should have been given a, " huge Promotion and Raise!",.. especially for "Protecting the patient Rights, while he was unconscious and willing to go to jail for her patient!",... She is the most responsible and respectful NURSE I have ever seen and heard,. Considering most of the time,.. a lot of them are unable to deal with the public and treat incoming people like they are not worthy of their time or having to do paperwork,.. but don't get me wrong,.. I do have the upmost respect for the ones who love their job and helping citizens with their needs,.. it's the few who just want to sit back and earn their living for doing nothing!😮 !.. as the saying goes,;.. "If you can't stand the heat!,.. get out of the kitchen!",... In other words,.. When you feel that the job is too much for you or too stressful,.. get another job or quit!.., B4 you make yourself and your fellow workers look like they lack any kind of "Empathy!"... 😮!😢!..😢 Stay home and take care of yourself and your family,...😮
(If there is a person to be given an F- or F-- , then it is this officer, and yes, she should get a honorary medal of citizens right protection of some sort...)
Ironically, it’s not the first time she almost got a medal. She was an Olympic skier, and finished 9th in Nagano.
What an interesting life she’s had already.
I've been a nurse for 47 years and this is more than horrible. These cops are outrageous. Shame on them.
Unfortunately they are not the only ones. Cops like this exist all across the US
But she told them “no!” That’s straight to jail! /s
@@nothingissimplewithlloydhippa laws apply in this instance
They're not cops, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo
FTP
How dare someone tell a police officer that he has to abide by the law.
Must be irony!
Must be...!
I mean... that's pretty much how it goes in a lot more cases than people would think
Haha
Apparently he does not understand federal laws concerning patients' rights. He was just looking for a reason to bully a woman. The only surprising thing is that he did not get violent with her.
💯
This is the kind of medical professional you want looking out for you during your most vulnerable situation.
hopefully she is not vaxxed and going to die soon
Especially after breaking the law
I don't know why there are only 2 replies to you perfect comment.
You should have thousands of comments within 1 minute of people agreeing with you 100%
@@Johnny2Bags47 because what's there to say when he already said it all? Plus people are agreeing with him, by giving a like.
@@moreplease394 The patient didn't break the law....
And how about an F for the University Police Officers (Hospital Police) for not stepping in and protecting their fellow employee. Instead they were along for the ride and allowed someone to be kidnapped right in front of them.
All cowards. The nurse was the only one with principles
Goons in uniform
I agree someone needs to rexzam his potion as sucrity. I would hate to think that was what the hospital had to protect me walking to my car at the end of the day .
For real! As soon as I hear that guard say, "If they arrest you, I'm not stopping them." I thought damn that's gotta hurt. Good for her, though in the end she came out on top. Also, this is the first A+ I've seen given out.
A nurse protecting HER patient...a saint on earth!!!
She is what all nurses should be when dealing with patient rights!
What an honorable person in an honorable profession!!!
And she donated all $500,000
My mom once had to run outside, leading hospital staff, to break windows and evacuate elderly patients during a fire. I can picture her in the same spot doing the same thing as this nurse, along with all the other nurses she worked with. Nurses intimidate me, honestly, and I think these cops were afraid she was tougher than they were! And she was.
Yes
Sorry, but she canot be canonized while she is still alive.
@@ucctgg *canonized
"I'm just a nurse trying to protect the patient...". My heart broke for her. They bullied an innocent person who was just doing her job. Shame on them!
They should've worked harder to protect us patients from tyranny covid rules, especially not letting your mom,spouse, in the hospital room with your dying kid cause of covid rules.
@@iwishpeoplecaredagain I think they were busy protecting everyone as a whole from tyranny covid itself, never mind the rules
@@iwishpeoplecaredagain ?????? What are you on about ??? They were taking care of everyone while overworked ???
@@iwishpeoplecaredagain Did you forget that dying kids probably don't want covid to expedite the process? yall would be funny if you weren't real but sadly you are
One of the officers asks the other "why don't they get a search warrant" and the arresting officer answers "they don't have PC." They knew they were in the wrong.
As an RN I remember this vividly. The courage and advocation of her patient's RIGHTS are absolutely commendable when faced with those tyrants.
Ok big words.
@@BllueJeeper
Do big words upset you?
Why?
@@BllueJeeper You're just exactly what purpose forefathers warned us of. An army of sheep led by a lion.
@@amerikanviking forefathers has 11 letters... I can't count past 7. You must be a nerd! Remember, stupidity is the most dangerous weapon in the known universe.
may I ask you how you deal with truck drivers involved in fatal accidents? Federal motor vehicle regulations require blood tests of all CDL drivers involved in fatal accidents whether or not the driver is at fault. This patient was a truckdriver involved in a fatal accident.
Now, the way the officers treated the nurse was wrong and they were trying to get the blood under the wrong laws. And the hospital has poorly trained their ER staff on the matter of dealing with CDL drivers involved in fatal accidents.
What terrifies me the most when officers knowingly on body camera act like this and then say they have 20-30 plus years on the force. Just imagine how they acted and treated people before they had body cameras, if this is their “churched” up behaviour on body camera. HORRIFYING!!
Not only claiming that they're on the job more than 20 years and basically admitted that they've been getting away with breaking the law during that period!
Before body cameras it was the Wild West they did whatever they wanted
I’m a full-time bedside RN in a hospital as well.
It’s hard to imagine being under so much applied pressure to submit to an unlawful order, and still standing firm. She’s a hero.
Yes she is
I TOTALLY AGREE! I TAKE MY HAT OFF THIS **HONORABLE* CHARGE NURSE!*
RESTORING MY FAITH.
Absolutely. If she gave blood without the warrant she could lose license and get sued personally and it could definitely prolly be a HIPPA violation is assume
I’d hope you’d do the same
She doesn't have a choice. If she had taken that man's blood, she would be opening the hospital up for a possible lawsuit, losing her job and possibly her license. She's not taking a stand out of mortality. She's doing what is required of her because she understands the violation that would entail.
"She's the one who told me no" is very telling. Someone told him no and now he's threatening her and making her feel scared for her freedom. Disgusting.
Another word for threatening her is ASSAULT. And another word for manhandling her is BATTERY!
"She told me no so I kidnapped her"
You tell almost any cop no and they'll act like this. They're soooo used to people bending over and kissing their a$$es that when someone doesn't it doesn't compute to them and they don't know what to do.
And that's how bullied boys become bully cops.
I was just thinking the same thought; because she told 'him no'!! They hate when people stand up for themselves or obey the law! These "officers" feel they can bully the public and usually do not know the law themselves, sad!!
If I'm ever Unconscious in a hospital I hope I have a nurse this concerned for myself, my body, and my rights. She deserves every penny she received.
She upheld her oath and the cop did not. I hope to get a nurse like her when im in need.
She deserves more
You are way safer unconscious with a licensed nurse than you are walking down the road in the vicinity of a cop. We uphold our practice acts and integrity. There's no way we could or would do this job based on wage alone because we don't get paid enough for what it is.
A nurse so concerned about you getting busted with being on drugs or drinking while driving? Or why would you not let them check your blood? I hope my nurse gives it to them so they know I'm clean or that if I am on something I will be punished for it. But thats just my take and also I dc if it breaks any amendments or some shit like that
@@F0kal no, it's 100% about bodily autonomy and consent! It has absolutely nada to do with getting busted.
"I know the law I've been doing this for 22 years" That's the most terrifying fucking statement ever uttered by a peace officer police officer any authority in this United States
Yeah, even in the so "nice" Fridays with Frank, he uses this sentence constantly. It triggers me every time.
Don't forget the 26 year Detective Payne was employed. Between the two, Salt Lake City has dodged a lawsuit bullet with combined 48 years of bad policing.
What is even more aggravating than the officer who arrested her is the supervisor who just backs him up without question. Nurse of the year easily.
Yes, that was what really got my blood boiling, supervisor shows up and is basically gaslighting her "why are you involved...do you know him...etc...etc".
I read a long while back that this whole thing is because they wanted to get a blood draw for any chemicals because the person/family may sue the department for the collision because of a police chase. So if they had even the slightest BAC/drug it gives the police an out in court.
Mind blowing.
James Tracy. What a piece of trash he is. How can someone so unqualified have gotten so far in life…
Me too!! Like really he needs to be fired too. He should have backed her
@jason M 100% agreeed when the officer said “I’m trying to help him too” made my blood boil because he had zero care for the person he was just trying to cover for the department. Absolutely sickening but unsurprising due to the state of our police state.
dude that was the biggest retard fight, the cop blames the lieutenant, the lieutenant blames the cop, under the bus they both go!
This nurse is a hero and I'm so happy this channel finally covered her story. What an absolute legend.
I remember when this happened.
these heros continues to inject covid vaccines into children
Yes this is the best example of the kind of person we need taking care of us. She truly is a HERO, unlike trash cop
@@pedopastel4781 troll somewhere else.
@@dawnchattin5935 this shit happened a fat minute ago
"I'm just a nurse"
You're a hero. Thank you for caring & holding those responsible accountable!
but, in the end, she was.... just a nurse.
@@gradeyundery4939and? She’s leagues better than that corrupt pig
She most certainly is the definition of a hero!
No, she was actually breaking the law if state law required a sample in the event where injuries result from a motor accident, and hospital policy can not say otherwise. What saved her and the hospital in this case was his animalistic behaviour because his ego was bruised. Would you feel the same if your child was killed by a drunk driver and she refused the draw
@@michaelohehir3779 iirc then this guy wasn’t even part of the pursuit and the other guy died running from the police
This is just simply disgraceful! Arresting a nurse to put her in jail because she refuses to break the law
Personal Update: Although Det. Jeff Payne was fired for the incident, he still claims he did nothing wrong. He sued the City of Salt Lake City for 1.5 million for wrongful termination. He lost and his appeal was denied. He then was hired next door in Weber County as a Jailer. - The University of Utah medical center changed their policies now to where the police cannot contact anybody in the hospital until cleared by upper management.
Great, so they hired on someone known to be a bully and willing to violate people's rights as a jailer? Fantastic decision. Wonderful. There's absolutely no chance of him taking out his temper on prisoners! Or abusing their rights because he likes to throw his weight around and demands immediate compliance. No sirree bob.
@@sallyswimmer8524police entities are getting so desperate now cause nobody wants to be a cop. So that’s why they just transferring or holding on to corrupt ones
Given Utah's culture and it's dominant religion what do you expect? Of course he did nothing wrong he was "just following orders" you know that old Nazi line that brought about one of the greatest tragedy of the 20th century. Ordinary people are not allowed to think when a order is given "the brethren (authorities) have already done all the thinking"
Once after 38 years I understood how dangerous the culture is, I knew it was time to get out of Zion!
Oh my goodness, hopefully nobody makes a stink about it and gets him fired again.
@@CitrusPeppercornno one got him fired, he got himself fired
"Shes the one who told me no." And there it is. Cop ego damage is punishable by arrest and or lethal force
Yup
Right
Back the Blue baby!
40%
Yup
I’m a retired paramedic. I’ve experienced cops interfering with me performing my duties to save a victim’s life.
The cop was fired and the patient lived.
Thank you for actually serving thr public unlike those "blue" idiots
tell me the story this sounds good
My man
Lies
@@richarddukard8989we are not talking about your mom saying you weren't adopted here.
Tracy and Payne should both be FIRED. These cops are out of control and they have NO IDEA OF THEIR JOB, TO PROTECT OR RIGHTS. Not to use the threat of arrest to extort or coerce people to give up their rights. Which is exactly what happened. They used the threat of unlawful arrest to extort and coerce a nurse to illegally violate someone else's rights who she was in charge of at the time. DISGRACEFUL.
Ugh I’ll never forget this one. That cop thought he had more authority than everyone else in the hospital and all the rules.
They always do
Of course he did. He had a badge and was listening to someone else with a badge, so, how can he possibly be in the wrong?
ya know, when your job increases the risk that you'll be in a hospital, it's probably best not to piss off the people that will be taking care of you.
He found out differently LOL
@@NathanHedglin blanket idealism like this is the reason innocent cops get killed in assasinations. Stop being negligent and realize that there are good and bad eggs everywhere in society
The worst part of all this: the one officer asked Det. Payne why he doesn't get a search warrant. Det., replied they didn't have the "probable cause." Man...that shoulda been a "clue" to all involved.
Did you also hear him try and claim the blood draw would somehow "also protect" the patient? Yeah cause trying to find evidence that the victim is somehow at fault really protects people. SMH total scumbag officer.
Exactly,. And because he didn't, he is every bit as guilty as cop and Lt. It shows the lack of training, twisted knowledge of job description and corrupted professional integrity. This runs uphill to the entire chain of command.
Yep. Exigent circumstances require probable cause to be present. He was just ignorant of how the law works, it's scary how many police officers don't know the law.
I was so happy she won $500,000! She’s better at protecting people than the police are! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I think she deserved more than that. Also, I'm pretty sure that most average citizens are better at protecting people than the police.
@@KozacraS I agree!
You are so right!!
She should of gotten a million 🤨
@@mbf6160 yes she should’ve!
This nurse is a hero, she stood alone against literal government tyranny and intimidation. Nurses by themselves are already extremely unappreciated and disrespected but this takes it to another level.
As a nurse, THANK YOU!
I always thank the nurses and doctors for helping me every time in the hospital
@@idiotmagnet4461 it is appreciated, we don’t hear it a lot and don’t expect to hear it but it is nice when we do, thank you
She deserve the U.S. Medal of Freedom!
She's an Olympic hero as well. She was a top tier skier in her younger days. I remember watching her under her maiden name.
In the UK. the Nursing and Midwifery states that the patient's nurses are the patient's ADVOCATE. An unconscious patient CANNOT CONSENT, they had NO warrant AND the patient was NOT under arrest. END OF!! Well done Alex!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
It warmed my heart to see damn near her whole building staff stand up when he said he was going to arrest her. She's got true friends in her corner! Glad this cop was fired. 👏🏿
Same here! So much support from her coworkers/staff.
they need to remember these faces and refuse treatment if they should appear in their hospital
You are then stooping to the same level as the moron cop.
@@ThatOpalGuy that is not what they should do. They should do what they have already done. Which is sue and hold cops accountable.
@@skillethead15 i disagree. saving monsters should be prohibited
The cop literally didn't care that she was holding a copy of the law in her hand and being told by MULTIPLE people that he wasn't legally-allowed to get a blood draw. And the cop himself didn't have to pay a single penny of the $500k lawsuit he caused due to his ignorance/negligence/malice.
Well I blame the 'city'. The city needs to be the main accountability. They need to suffer the economic loss to let them know they need to hire better/train better.
@@roberthiggins8234 Or start taking these payments out of their pension fund. Problem would sort itself out real quick.
See that's the issue make the law so the cop gets sued in these situations and I bet a few bully cops losing there house will fix this
I am of the mind that these kinds of cases should be treated like child support is treated in the US. Base it on what we know the person is capable of making. If you made 50K per year, you need to pay at least half, if not more, toward what is owed on the lawsuit. If you can make 50K, but voluntarily choose to take a lower-paying job, you should have to pay the same amount, regardless. A refusal to pay will result in a seizure of assets, and potential jail time. In addition, the debt owed to the individual should be treated like a student loan in that it does not go away by declaring bankruptcy. The taxpayers should DEFINITELY not be the ones who have to pay for the poor decisions made by officers.
His entire pension and every cop's involved in lawsuits if they get one, should go to the victims.
It's amazing that she literally read them the hospitals' DCO agreement with the Salt Lake PD and they STILL tried to say she was wrong.
@jth086 All because detective payne’s ego has blinded him from realizing that.
Yea.. It did not even give him a hint! Mind boggling!
The cops request should have ended right there when she read that paper to them that was the agreement between the hospital and the police. I come in the hospital and the nurse they did an outstanding job those two police however should be in the unemployment line neither one of them deserve to even be in any kind of law enforcement. I doubt if they could even make it as a security officers
She is my number one patient advocate of the year....maybe decade!
This nurse should be the poster child of excellent nursing care and patient advocate. It's not always just about physical nursing care but standing firm for your patient. My daughter is a charge nurse I pray she would be able to emulate Nurse Wubbels in the face of such condescending and aggressive confrontation. Im sure she will though after seeing this.These 2 people should never have been allowed to remain in law enforcement.
Doctors have insurance, Construction workers have insurance, Lawyers have insurance, Pigs need to carry their own liability insurance.
Even Notarys have to carry insurance. The fact that police are exempt from the consequences of their own mistakes is ridiculous!
Not knowing the law is a terrifying excuse for a police officer to give
Literally one of the worst.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, unless you are a police/law enforcement officer.
If cops knew the law. They'd be lawyers.
Lmfao that just about every cop!
@@CallumG100 no sir, ignorance of the law is no excuse, especially for a sworn officer of the law...... lets not make jokes about something so serious
I respect this nurse for having the willpower to simultaneously protect her unconscious patient's rights while questioning the officer's ethics. Great work!
It is low key crazy how police officers are the only ones without ethical requirements as part of their contracts. McDonald workers have higher liability.
if she would have drawn that blood she would have never been aloud to practice medicine again. cops need to be held to that same slandered.
@@kevincornell1439 he didn’t ask her to draw blood. He wanted to do it himself. 1:42
@@TheBooban that's even worse.
No amount of training will help these cops it’s a personality disorder you can’t train a good personality. Jerks have to change on themselves by having a humble experience.
As an ICu nurse this situation greatly pained me. Any nurse would put herself in the way of cop’s threatening their patients. This was ridiculous from the moment I saw it and i was delighted at the fallout these officers faced!
That cop should have known that he had no chance of making any nurse do that even at gun point. Then got his little ego butt hurt and retaliated for not being obeyed. It's like feeling offended because momma bear won't let you take a cub.
I was surprised her colleagues didn't use their brains and have every single one of them read the same exact policies while refusing the blood draw. They wouldn't have arrested them all
"any nurse would put herself in the way of cop's threatending their patients"
Lol I can guarantee you not every nurse would.
I'm only programmed to do what I'm told
Because I personally don't know anything myself
Not saying I'm a tool BUT...
It takes 4 years to train a nurse. How long does it take to train a cop?! I‘m a retired nurse. I worked with cops occasionally while on ER duty. Fortunately I never ran across cops that have such a short fuse as this bunch does. Bravo, sister, I’m proud of you!
6 months and clearly are not taught our constitutional rights, they habitually violate.
Get ur gun license go to police academy n get a police officer reference so about 6months 😂😂😂
Don't disrespect that police officer, he worked too hard to get his high school diploma!
Cops need at least a 4 year degree and should have personal insurance
@@patrickdean4853 quick question
the guy is scum, lotta cops are
but wtf should the degree be for 🤦🏻♂️
My mind is telling me NO but my EGO, my EGO is telling me YES!!
I love the nurse's patient advocacy. She's absolutely correct. This officer is horrid.
All the cops involved proved themselves to be abusers
Yea absolutely amazing! Nurses have to much on their plate to begin with and this was unbelievable
Officers these days are horrid/
@@lesseirgpapers9245they’ve always been
I love nurses and hate cops... this is exactly why.
This lady deserves an award for staying strong and defending patient’s rights under pressure.
or she deserves $500,000... :)
@@pokerman9108Bingo!
She got 500 000 awards
@@ArchieStiglitz I've been trying to get the 500k gold chip award for years... lucky her.
She donated the 500k
" I'm either leaving with blood in vials or a body in tow" is one of the most tyrannical sentences I have ever heard. Standing ovation for that nurse for standing up to these petty tyrants when most others would have caved with the threat of arrest. This cop thinks that just wanting something is "exigent circumstances."
“…body in tow…” does nothing but make it clear that they do not view this innocent nurse as a human being. She’s nothing more than a “body”. And, SHE isn’t the one refusing the blood draw. The refusal is at the behest of the facility where she just happens to be working. These imbecilic LEOs aren’t even “targeting” the right people by trying to arrest this woman. It would be like being told to leave a movie theatre by the owner, and then turning around and punching the janitor in the face. You don’t take out your frustrations with someone who has no control over the situation whatsoever. This whole situation is miles away from appropriate conduct and is just a hugely unnecessary display of incompetence and sheer stupidity.
I concur
Yep, can't stand these tyrants
Tyrants, and, clearly, abusers
Imagine how these dishonest, arrogant abusers treat their families. After all, have you ever looked into the studies about law enforcement personnel and perpetration of domestic violence?
I am completely flabbergasted how these cops thought they had exigent circumstances for a blood draw from a person that was a victim of the pursuit they were a part of? What probable cause could they possibly have?
Their EGO! "EGO" is the anesthesia which numbs the pain of stupidity!" Rick Rigsby
So, so true
She is a legend in the nursing world. Nursing schools use this case as an example of "advocating for your patient" as a Registered Nurse.
Legendary!!!
She truly is a hero! In many many ways I'm sure. These two cops give good cops a bad name. Both fired for not knowing our rights
Wow thats great
She is also super bangable.
That’s so good to hear. She was incredibly brave this entire exchange and I’m not surprised she’s a role model
As she should be.
I wish all nurses were as brave and fiercely protective of their patients as this woman!
She's a real life hero. (I say that as a combat vet)
It's so wonderful that people with your background & experience speak up. Thank you for commenting!
God Damn right she is. I love this woman!
Thank you for your service to our freedom. I was thinking the same thing, this woman deserves recognition for her brave stance on our rights and then wanting to help others with the money she received. I give her as much respect as those who bravely fought with their lives for our freedom and rights. She is a hero.
I had a nurse slap my cuts and run me over with the wheel chair I was handcuffed to.
@@joshuagary2745 haha the way you described it as “slapped my cuts” made me lol. Nurse, cop, veteran, it doesn’t matter, there are good and bad people that end up in the same jobs. We should recognize the good ones and expose the bad ones. It doesn’t matter if you were in cuffs you still at least deserved to be treated humanely, unless you were being arrested as a pedo. I hope you are doing well now.
As a fellow nurse, I couldn't possibly be more proud of her and I couldn't possibly be happier about the officer's firing. It's a win win! 👍
Absolutely right. But I would add that it's a win win win, because the public won't have to suffer because of him anymore.
Except they Both weren't fired. The supervising cop was demoted, not fired.
ditto
She is a true American hero
@@4thamendment237 You're absolutely right! It's a win win win.👍
This cop is unbelievable! How dare they arrest her. I wish she would have been awarded one million!
I love Nurse Wubbels. Stood her ground and protected her patient. She is an outstanding representation of a nurse. Sucks that she had to go through that emotional distress, but I hope the $500k helped her move forward. Much love to Nurse Wubbels. My hero.
Yeah, she can pay off any of her school debts, that will be a wonderful feeling!
@@paulacullin8900 What a sad country where you have debt for studying...
Wu tang forever
Also worth noting, although it doesn't impact the case itself at all, but she's also a former American Olympian
Unfortunately she and her management were wrong in this case. The exigent circumstances apply to a situation where there is a traffic fatality and the suspect is unconscious. Under those circumstances cops are allowed to legally draw blood from the unconscious suspect to determine blood alcohol level. Hospital policy does not trump the law.
The fact he never intended on apologizing just shows how unfit is was for that position. Can’t imagine how he treated normal citizens if he treated a nurse like that.
It shows what an how incredibly GOOD fit he is. Make no mistake, the department and the government WANT this.
He was selected specifically ... They all are... Trained to violate rights
Both officers should be in jail
@@thewhitefalcon8539 You are 100 % correct. Actually, Florida's governor would pay him a $5000 bonus to come and be a corrupt cop here.
Florida, where corrupt politicians, corrupt cops and pedophiles are protected
Aren’t nurses normal citizens? What are they, superhuman?
Once she asked "is the patient under arrest?" and he said "no" Then asked "was there a warrant for his arrest?" and again he said "no". That alone was enough for her to say no.
Gave you the 117th like ;)
Yeah, and honestly, the police should have to arrest everyone in the hospital who’s capable of doing a blood draw, but refuses. She’s not the only one there capable, he could arrest all the doctors and nurses.
@@thebullgatorI wish he did! The lawsuit woulda been so much higher for the healthcare workers but sadly he didn't... Maybe next time!
Another reason why all police officers should be compelled to undergo Constitutional law training before being certified as an officer. A 4 year law degree would eliminate many of these tyrants before they get to strong-arm people and violate basic, Constitutionally protected rights.
Brian Mullagan, also if qualified immunity was abolished you would see a different approach from these types of officers who think they are untouchable because they wear a badge
Looking at his photo, Det. Payne looks like he belongs in a 70's TV police drama, and clearly has the attitude to match.
He was so smug. I’m sure it was a terrifying experience for her but in the end totally worth it for $500k and the satisfaction knowing that guy lost his job.
He lost his job and was hired by the next county over as a jailer. Not necessarily a win.
In my opinion, he has little dick syndrome.
500k is still a decent win!@@lynnette4596
@@lynnette4596 very big little p p syndrome. Reminds me of rush hour 2 "no wonder you mad"
and the nurse even invest half of the money into police department for getting more body cam. I love this country🤣🤣🤣🤣
The bastard got an undisclosed payout though! Everything is set up to the benefit of cops, no matter how bad, deranged, or corrupt they are. What a joke.
The copsplaining to the nurse was unbelievable! They got off light only having one cop fired and a measly $500k. Big shout outs to the nurse who stood her ground!
She’s richhhh bishhh
@@andrewgriffin9244500k doesn't make anyone rich nowadays. You may be able to buy a house or live comfortably for 5-10 years, depending on if you have kids or not, but rich? Nah, you need like 5 million.
They're not cops, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo
@@terryclark6999Fr tho but this was awhile back also she’s a nurse so she is definitely well off. Still not rich but pretty wealthy.
@@mikeveis2395this country might be invaded one day. What role do you think “cops” like this would play? The answer- whoever was paying the cops would control them.
"Why are you blaming the messenger, sir?"
"She is the one that told me no."
Unbelievable. Absolutely disgusting behavior and I'm glad they sacked him.
I can only imagine what happens to the women that say no to him when he asked them to go out with him
@@cosmicnightmare4401there’s a town cop like this where I live. Tried to date my mom all throughout high school, she always rejected him. He would follow my mom around town, in his cruiser, pulling her over when ever he could. I couple years back he pulled her over and tried to come up with something to get her in trouble with so my mom brought all this up to the police chief and now he’s not allowed anywhere near my mom, if she ever were to commit any crime/ infraction and he’s the responding officer, he has to call another cop in because he was absolutely obsessed with her. 🙃 he’s also a huge racist and I’m mixed so… that’s probably a part of it too
@@gabriellanicole4179 I’m so sorry you had to deal with that, that sounds like a horrible situation to be in I hope you mom is ok too that would be so stressful
@@cosmicnightmare4401 my mom hasn’t had any issues with him for a few years (thank god) but he’s super weird and most of our town’s cops are super corrupt. This guy specifically, he got caught messing around with under age girls while he was on duty, in his cruiser, and got suspended with pay for like a week and he’s still on the force somehow 🙃 not to mention when he hit my ex fiancé (who was driving my car at the time) with his cruiser and then tried to ticket my ex 3 days later for scratching the paint of his push bar, as if he didn’t crack my whole front bumper
Utah tax dollars being wasted.
Im sure the hospital attorney knew the law better then any cop. The whole problem is the nurse told him NO😊
I wonder how he reacts on dates when the girl tells him "no"
Imagine how many rights were violated by that “cop” over the last 22 years.
He's not a cop, he's an SS soldier of the American Gestapo
it does explain the lack of upward momentum in his carreer
I can't imagine how many people that he'd have assaulted and falsely arrested - all because they never had body cameras!
If he's prepared to lie in order force the nurse to comply,; knowing that he was on camera - how far would he be prepared to go with no records of what was happening. 🤬
14 rights
Given how he treats women he thinks he has power over, I would bet good money that it's more than "rights" that he's violated.
If these cops had to pay for the lawsuits out of their own pocket, things MIGHT change.
Oh it definitely would but the blue line mafia is embedded in the government.
If they've been tenured long enough to be pension eligible, they should lose that or at least have it decreased based on severity.
@@upanda21a Agreed the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge. GTFO and do not pass GO or collect 200 hundred dollars.
Qualified immunity sign the petition and they will just letting you know.
@@iwishpeoplecaredagain How/where do I sign?
The part where he arrested her was so heartbreaking to watch. You can hear in his tone of voice when he yells at her that he's getting some sort of enjoyment out of that and it's disgusting
Hope's he's still enjoying that feeling while he's standing in the unemployment line!
@@antonyduhamel1166 he probably just moved elsewhere to be a cop again
He's drunk on the power.
@generic andre exactly they moved him elsewhere and he's still working all those cops should be fired the other cop lied too and the coward second cop on scene didn't want to break their gay thin blue line and do right thing
@@genericandre9159 RIGHT!!😮
Once admitted, the hospital assums responsibility for the patient. Had this nurse allowed the blood draw, the hospital could potentially be found to be complicit in violating the patient's rights.
The fact that she would put herself at an unreasonable risk for the sake of her patient, refusing to bend on her integrity... this is truly someone I could trust with my life.
Undeniably, she's in the right profession.
plus she got a free payday out of it. good job nurse!!!!!!
if only cops had such integrity
@@baldisaerodynamic9692 Not exactly a payday, and it would have been a lot more if she had sued the Police Department instead of accepting the Settlement that was quickly drafted to cover their behinds. She also donated a portion of the money to other victims of police wrongdoing who can't afford the fees to get the body cam video. And then there is the 30% or more that went to her attorney, and then Uncle Sam and his State Tax variant got their share too. She probably ended up with less than $200k, and ended up emotionally scarred forever.
The mind blowing part about this whole thing is that the patient is literally the VICTIM that just happened to get run into by a POS evading police.
add to it. victim was an off duty cop from anotehr county
But the guilty person died. But he wanted to badly to look like a hero. The cop says he's looking out for the burn victim. ??? This guys believes his own lies.
@@Revkor Interesting. They wanted that blood desperately. Must be more to the story...
To add insult to injury, the cops didn't even need to chase the guy in the first place. Cops caused the accident. Unless the suspect was a mass shooter or something, all they did was put hundreds of peoples' lives in danger with their reckless driving.
@@jetroar17 There is. Without a culpable person to arrest, it becomes the officers fault for the accident.
Best part of the video: 6:34 where the other officer there asks the Detective (quietly), "Why don't we just get a search warrant" and the Detective says "Because we don't have PC" - in other words, he knows he has no probable cause to get a warrant to get the blood - that admission right there shows the officer knew he couldn't get it lawfully so he is trying to use threats to get it instead.
Both Officers should be in prison
😮
They were trying to cover up other douche baggery that was going on before hand by trying to pin it on the unconscious burn victim.
@@tmac9208 Exactly!
@@tmac9208yup... he probably caused the accident and is trying to manipulate the results to pin it all on the victim...
Absolutely no probable cause...
Cops do not like being told no and that triggers their aggressive behavior. This is a perfect example of that. Before any of this happened the cops needed to review the law and the hospital guidelines along with the circumstances of the case. If they had done this none of this should have happened but they let their anger override all of that.
I'm a medical professional and followed this story closely when it happens. One aspect of this case not presented in this video is that Detective Payne also had a side job as an EMT. He was caught on tape commenting that he could retaliate against the hospital for Ms Wubbles refusal, saying "“I‘ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,”. The ambulance service he worked for fired him a week of the tapes being released. I can see why it wasn't included in this video as it doesn't really raise any legal issues, but it does speak to Payne's sense of entitlement.
I'm glad he lost both jobs.
In this situation, EMT means Extremely Motivated Tyrant!
Thanks for this added context. This is the exact type of person who should never hold real power over anyone
Thank you for adding this context. It just goes to show his character. Simply put he is just a scumbag.
Wish we could clean house of this type of policing nation wide, because this is definitely not isolated in concept or practices in America.
Imagine having the cops chase someone to crash into you, putting your life in jeopardy, then arresting your nurse for not allowing them to violate your rights.
What if the guy that was DUI killed someone from your family and cannot be blood tested because he is under investigation? Would you still protect him?
@@ukaszw6623 The law is the law is shouldn't matter, that Pig broke the LAW 100%!!
@@ukaszw6623Yes, since I wouldn't know...
@@ukaszw6623 it’s a violation of someones rights to draw their blood while unconscious without probable cause to do so. The end.
@@berriannawinterthorn585 because this can incriminate someone? XD
This made me so angry. He missed a teachable moment when the nurse printed the Hospital policy but I guess there's nothing in the world you can teach a "Mr-know-it-all". What a champ this nurse was 🏆
I like that he keeps calling it “your policy” it isn’t the hospital policy it is the policy that both the police and hospital agreed upon.
Boss say me blood draw. Nurse say me blood draw no. Nurse bad!
I don’t make mistakes! I’m super smart, and now you called out my ineptitude you’re going to jail!!
Imagine how he treats his family behind closed doors
The watch commander saying he is well versed in the law was probably the biggest joke of this whole incident.
He said "22 F*ckin years" 🫡
Trust me…I’m a cop 😂
That's funny seeing how cops can lie to you but you can't lie to cops.
We all need more nurses like her! What an amazing way to protect her patient and her patients rights no matter being placed in handcuffs.
Props to this nurse for doing everything in her power to protect her patient and his rights. Not all heroes wear capes.
This hero wears medical scrubs!!!!
And not every cop should wear the badge, some don’t deserves it.
What I want to understand is what the cop thought would happen after he arrested the nurse.
Did he think he was then going to be able to re-enter the hospital and the rest of it’s staff allow them to do the blood draw?
Mean, how many nurses and doctors was he willing to arrest?
6 years later and it's still talked about. A classic example of case study on what not to do when working as a police officer.
The nurse is unquestionably badass, but props to hospital admin for telling the cops they are making a huge mistake.
Badass. What on earth do you mean. This is exactly the nurse you would want looking after you if you were unconscious, she was magnificent however, I doubt your cokify brain could understand that. Time to go play with your Lego
@@margolenney6032 huh? I complimented the nurse and also her bosses
If her boss said no and the admi was there and the cop wanted to arrest someone, it should be the admin. He is giving the order to say no. But this cop just wanted to push a lady around. That just makes him a _____. Fill in the blank. Fire him!
@@margolenney6032I think you’re the one who plays with Lego! Cokinator was complementing the nurses standing up to the cops and protecting her unconscious patient!
@@cokinator100ifyit was a language barrier thing.
You can hear the self-righteous arrogance of these egotistical cowards in their voice, including the supervisor. Nothing but predators and bullies taking joy in abusing.
HIPPA law is federal which outweighs any policy a city police department has put in place. This guy should know this and he wants to be right here no matter what.
I don't think HIPPA can hold a candle to the US Constitution 4th amendment violations that these officers were trying to violate.
The victim(who passes from his injuries) she protected was a part time police officer from another state hit head on while driving an 18 wheeler. His department sent out a statement thanking the Nurse for protecting his rights
Two victims, the unconscious victim of the crash and the nurse, who was the victim of the officers trying to haul her off to jail, for not allowing the officer to violate a patient's 4th Amendment right.
Oh my God! I'm a nurse, it is our job to advocate for our patients.. if the hospital says no we can't go against that. This is absolutely horrible. I'm so proud of her for standing her ground. She is a great nurse!!!
I am too!
My degree is in Health Information Technology. She was spot on, and the kind of nurse I'd want on my side!
I would prefer that you had a conscience, and then followed it, rather than feeling forced to submit to some authority. That's exactly the mentality of the cop: submit to authority!
I'm surprised they didn't also arrest other staff like the boss telling her not o let them draw blood.
Ms. Ash, for sure! And it is 100% likely that the specific blood draw policy was written with consultation from the local jurisdictions (SO, PD, DA).
500,000 🤑
This video never ceases to make my blood boil. She was doing her job. I love how the detective got on TV and cried that he was unfairly fired for this incident
He was "unfairly fired", it's unfair that he was only fired, he should have been charged and brought before a jury
@@jaihawkins 👍 Exactly.
Where’s the video? Please thanks
@@jaihawkins I agree, he should of spent time in Jail
I love that he showed the entire world what a fool he is. I wouldn't hire him to pick up dog shit in my backyard
Bravo..
Love the integrity of this woman...
This Nurse is an outright legend. While most nurses are amazing in their own right, Ms Wubbles is exemplary, and an absolute credit to her profession.
Couldn’t agree more. Her demeanor stays so calm while she defends her patient while being threatened and bullied by MULTIPLE police. takes more strength than I have 😂
She should have got more that 500k imo!
Her morales did not Wubble under pressure
@@cmdrmalndr156😂 lmao
Made my day to hear she got a payout.... She was doing exactly what she was supposed to do. Well done Ma'am.
Police dept got off cheap. I bet if the nurse had taken it to court she would have gotten 3 times that amount. That angel of a nurse probably isn't the spiteful type.
Should have been a lot more !!!!
100% I wouldn't be surprised if she experienced some harassment from these bullies after the incident.
@@bustersmith5569 She got half a million without filing a lawsuit, meaning not paying court costs, attorney’s costs and attorney’s cut. She didn’t have to go through the nightmare of recalling her abuse at the hands of these tyrants. She hit the Lotto.
@@MaTTheWish tje main one got fired and his boss demoted two positions down
It’s great to see the nurse is there protecting and saving us in more ways than one.
One of the many reasons nursing as a profession is held such in high regard. And why Law Enforcement is in such low regard.
@@danbo88 us nurses don’t play about our care for our patients, they are like our kids as long as they are in our care.
Victorious1 said, "... nurses don’t play about our care for our patients, they are like our kids as long as they are in our care."
YES, as a child is helpless, the patient (especially an unconscious patient) is totally dependent on the care of those charged with that care. No one standing for them, except good nurses like this!!!
This incident is a perfect example of why you should know your constitutional rights, especially when dealing with law enforcement. Most of our police do not know any titles and details of any amendments. My heart goes out to the brave nurse for protecting, hers and everyone in that hospitals rights!
Unlike cops, nurses receive extensive training on their moral/legal obligations and patient rights, plus the criminal, civil and employment penalties they may face for misconduct. I trained in the 1970s and even then those were made very clear.
I love this nurse, she has more integrity than every police officer on scene. Great job protecting your patients.
Is kinda funny when the Lt. said that he has been doing it for 22 years. Can you imagine someone has been doing his job wrong for 22 years and still working? Makes you wonder how many times has he been wrong for 22 years? How many times did that kind of unlawful bullying worked over 22 years? Literally bring shame and bad names to those who were doing their job right and risking their lives for the rest of us.
Unfortunately that is the norm and are supported by upper management.
A big clown show to acquire a blood sample, which if it even had any evidentiary value, would have been inadmissible. Brilliant !!!!
FAX😮
and tax payers are paying his salary!
Thank God for body cams...
This story was huge at my hospital. People were afraid of being arrested for following hospital policy. I am glad this was resolved
It's not hospital policy it's the law.
You can tell a cop he isn't the only one who has taken an oath...only YOU intend to uphold your oath!!!
Fortunately not many departments would ever be so stupid as to recreate this situation.
Thing is, if the rules are clear cut like that in the hospital and its stated clearly. You should all stand by it. If you get arrested its a pay day. Its like someone getting hit by a city work truck or company vehicle, its a form of lotto. The cops were trying to exploit a loophole but the hospital records had no gray area, it was black and white. 1 of these 3 conditions had to be met and neither of them were. Instant lawsuit win for the cop trying to arrest someone following hospital rules which almost always supersedes the law because of HIPA.
@@XultanisDragon Problem is people who think of it as a payday. As long as people keep talking a payoff instead of insisting the cops go to jail. It will keep happening.
They were trying to avoid a lawsuit from the car chase in order to have evidence that the victim was impaired and thereby held some liability for the crash. They jumped out of the pan into the fire.
Ding, ding, ding, thank you!