It's a great cartridge, rather a shame it's not more popular I kinda like it over the 243 Winchester personally but maybe I just like the oddballs. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
With a 1:9 twist rate you could make a nice deer size game rifle out of it. Didn’t Remington come out with the 6mm with a 1:12 twist rate which didn’t stabilize 100 grain bullets very well? The .243 Win had a 1:10 twist which handled the 100 grainers better.
@@jti2007 As far as I know, Remington's first offering was the 722 chambered in what was then called 244 Remington. It had the slower twist rate which was designed around 90 grain bullets. It developed a reputation for poor accuracy with heavier bullets, which is where the 243 shined.
Several years back I bought the 700 VLS in 7mm/08. It also has the ebony fore end, nice blue job and a 26" heavy barrel. Looks just like your 700. A beautiful rifle in a caliber that I am very fond of. Good shooting on your part. A 10 round group without pause...keep up the good work.
48.3 grains of IMR 4831 with the Sierra100 grain SPBT works fine. 105 grain Hornady red tipped BT with 46.1 grains of WMR1 drives nails in my stainless fluted Remington SPF 700. I have 9. ..6mm rifles.
I purchased a Remington model 700 "VARMINT SPECIAL" in 6mm Remington back about 25 years ago. Love the cartridge! Back in 1995, I had the privilege to build my own custom barrel for that action in 6mm Ackley Improved! Cut the barrel to 26" and a muzzle diameter of 1". The rifle is a scary accurate combo! Many groups in the 0.2's, and 0.3's. And with a few in the sub 0.1"!
6mm Remington is the first cartridge I reloaded back in the late 90’s. My son needed a deer rifle and I found a Md 700 at a pawnshop. I knew nothing about the 6mm. Went home and did some research and went back the next day and bought the rifle. My son still shoots that thing. I was able to find a Ruger #1B in 6mm with a 24” barrel. 85gr Barnes Triple shocks travel around 3285fps out of it. Both rifles have taken several deer. One of my favorite rounds obviously.
I am honored to be considered in the same company as the man who wrote "Pet Loads"! He is a legend! We appreciate you watching and your continued support! --Jeremiah
As soon as I heard "Varmint" I paused and dug through my copies of every issue published so far. Spring '21 cover. I'll have to further check I pretty much went cover to cover.
*. The 6mm Rem. can fo anything the .243 Win can do, only it does it a little better. It will shoot all bullet weights up to 105 grains or so. The .244 Rem was designed for varmint hunting, but the 6mm Rem. with it's faster twist rate turned the cartridge in to a viable big game cartridge as well as an excellent varmint cartridge. With the improvements in powders and bullet designs it will only get better.
Since you asked, my favourite varmint rifles are a Sako Benchrest rifle in 22 PPC and a Remington 700 VSSF in 220 Swift. Where do you buy a benchrest table like the one you are using? Thank you.
Great video and I like the format. I don’t have much experience with the 6mm REM but have always liked the 243 Win, which, as you know, is essentially the same thing. My 243 is a model 700 ADL and it really likes 95 grain Fusions and 100 grain Hornady BTSP. Both loads have worked well on pronghorn and varmits and I’m sure your rifle would accomplish the same.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience with the 243 Win, I appreciate it! It is a great cartridge for sure! Very similar to the 6mm Remington slightly slower velocity and slower twist which kept it from gaining the popularity of the 243 Win but both are very capable cartridges. Thank you for the kind words and feedback! --Jeremiah
I had a 700 BDL, 22", 9" twist. Loved it! My fav load was with a Sierra 85 gr HPBT, with 4350 cranking 3200 even. Wood Chucks were my targets, some pretty big ones, too. None ever escaped. With a 100 gr, it is 3/4 of a 270, and deer couldnt tell the difference. It was just too loud for farm country, tho, so I sold it. Still use my 222 Rem, tho, works just fine, always has.
BEEN getting hand loader magazine since it was available sure wish you guys would do either a video, preferably an article in an upcoming issue in the wildcat column on the 223 ackley improved 40° shoulder
I do have a contender chambered in 223 AI, it's a very interesting cartridge with a lot of misconceptions as well. I wouldn't mind doing a load development video or article on it. There's a lot to talk about with this cartridge. Thank you very much for your long-standing support. It is because of good folks like you that we are able to provide good solid reliable and honest information to those who are interested. --Jeremiah
My buddy had a 6mm remington and brought it over one day. He had handloads. Oops! He blew it up. Ouch! Well, couple years later I found another Mauser action for him. He rebuilt it. Told me I really should pick up a 6mm rem should I find one. Three years later, I found a 6mm rem 700 adl, 6 digit receiver, for sale in like New condition. Bought it, love it, gonna pass it down. I'm 73. It is one of thr most accurate rifles I have.
That's a shame about loosing a rifle like that at least from the sound of it he wasn't hurt too bad. I'm definitely a big fan of the 6mm Rem as well great cartridge and very fun to load and shoot. Enjoy yours and best of luck with your shooting! --Jeremiah
As a longtime handloader for may dozens of cartridges, I have always found a similar problem with the cartridges based on the 7mm x 57mm case in American made bolt action rifles. Such as 6mm/.244 Remington and .257 Roberts. What usually happens is the cartridge is chambered in the 'short action' version of the rifle. This does not allow one to seat a big game suitable bullet out far enough to take advantage of the additional powder capacity of the 6mm Remington v. the .243 WCF. What happens is, a 100gr. must be seated deeply in the case, encroaching on the powder capacity. I have also run into the same problem with the .257 Roberts v. .250 Savage. The results are identical ballistics in _short action bolt rifles_ whether using the 2.233" (57mm) case length or the 2.015" (51mm) case length (or the even shorter 1.912" .250 Savage). It was a mistake to decide to chamber this cartridge in short action bolt rifles, BUT Remington was trying to compete with Winchester's .243 which actually works well in short action rifles. Chambering it in a long (or 'standard') .30-06 length action would cause buyers to rethink whether they should just go with the .25-06 instead. The 7x57mm case, and it's offspring, are handicapped with this 'neither fish nor fowl' problem. Too long for short actions, too short for long actions. For best performance with this cartridge, a single shot rifle OR a .30-06 length bolt action would make the most of it.
Growing up in western South Dakota, my dad‘s biggest rifle that he shot everything with was a 6 mm for the longest time as a young kid even shot an elk with it even Buffalo and other critters that was his biggest rifle about 20 years later than he went to the 2506 but I like that and now my brother has that rifle it was a custom built rifle with a 24 inch barrel a little bit heavier barrel but it’s on top of a Mauser model 98 actionthat I know will take a substantial. I know because they talked about back in the day. There was a guy and they were melting the brass it’s in this day and things are way too expensive to be doing a Mile. Vote is just fine.
A long while back I had a 6MM much like yours. I was a Sako action with I think was a 26-inch heavy barrel. At the time I was loyal to the 75 grain Sierra hollow point. My interest was lost due to youthful short attention span, and I traded it for a Mauser action 458 Winchester of all things. That was back in 1974 and by 1976 that was traded off. Sorry I ramble.
You may be right it also could be the barrel heating up, it was pretty warm that day and shooting 10 rounds pretty quick is a lot to ask even with a Varmint contour barrel. It's something I'll definitely keep in mind though. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
I can tell you!! I live the caliber. I finally decided to build my own. I strongly considered the improved version but in the end stayed with the origional. I barreled it heavy contour 24" 1:8. Attached to a Weatherby VGL long action. (Howa) seated 108 Bergers to stay in the neck. Had the chamber throated for this extra length. As I had a long action I was no longer held to 2.8". Later during load work up I surpassed 3200fps with a few 105-108g match bullets. Most shoot sub 1moa some shot alot better :) It LOVES Federal blue box 80g. Factory too! I found a shop with most of a case and got a screaming deal cause no one had bought it for a decade! Good source of brass for me. I stocked it in a oryx chassis and scoped it with a Arkin 6-24 SH4. Its heavy and not really a hunter. But built for funnout @ 1000 have t taken it there yet.
I'd prefer a 6mm rem to a 243. Perhaps even better a 6mm AI. However ..the 243 is more practical per availability. I like the longer neck..avoid donuts for sure ..more seating depth options and perhaps better (less) throat erosion..
Absolutely we'll have quite a variety to kickstart this new series. Mostly small caliber stuff but there's some big bore stuff in the works as well. Thanks for watching!! --Jeremiah
.244 rem. Twist 1:12, 6mm. Rem twist 1:9, 243 win. Twist 1;10. Which has the best Twist for 100 grain bullets? Gun writers just like the 243 better because not all of them are smart and besides you can use .308 win. Brass to load their. 243. 6mm handles more powder thuss more velocity.
Actually, podcasts don't cut it for me. I would rather have something that I can read and refer to if and when a need may arise. I'm sure some will disagree with me but that is just my personal opinion. But, thank you anyway.
Enjoy the older more classic guns like this one. You can see the latest tactical hyper-expensive toys everywhere. We are told the old guns won't kill anything anymore and we might as well throw them on the brush pile for firewood they are so old and useless. It's refreshing to see somebody shooting them and acknowledging how effective they are. Same for scopes, I'm tired of the 10 lb monsters everybody puts on rifles now. Why can't somebody still make a sleek scope that looks appropriate on a classy rifle? Most people aren't dialing for Elevation after every shot anyhow.
Growing up in western South Dakota, my dad‘s biggest rifle that he shot everything with was a 6 mm for the longest time as a young kid even shot an elk with it even Buffalo and other critters that was his biggest rifle about 20 years later than he went to the 2506 but I like that and now my brother has that rifle it was a custom built rifle with a 24 inch barrel a little bit heavier barrel but it’s on top of a Mauser model 98 actionthat I know will take a substantial. I know because they talked about back in the day. There was a guy and they were melting the brass it’s in this day and things are way too expensive to be doing a Mile. Vote is just fine.
788 in 6mm and a 722 in 244. Both great rifles. Definitely an underrated cartridge. Thanks for the review.
It's a great cartridge, rather a shame it's not more popular I kinda like it over the 243 Winchester personally but maybe I just like the oddballs. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
With a 1:9 twist rate you could make a nice deer size game rifle out of it. Didn’t Remington come out with the 6mm with a 1:12 twist rate which didn’t stabilize 100 grain bullets very well? The .243 Win had a 1:10 twist which handled the 100 grainers better.
@@jti2007 As far as I know, Remington's first offering was the 722 chambered in what was then called 244 Remington. It had the slower twist rate which was designed around 90 grain bullets. It developed a reputation for poor accuracy with heavier bullets, which is where the 243 shined.
I love my 6mm Rem. I'm glad you're doing a video on it.
That's a beautiful rifle and a well done video. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching and the kind words! --Jeremiah
Thanks for all you do Jeremiah. Great video. It is appreciatef. Merry Christmas to you & your's.
Several years back I bought the 700 VLS in 7mm/08. It also has the ebony fore end, nice blue job and a 26" heavy barrel. Looks just like your 700. A beautiful rifle in a caliber that I am very fond of.
Good shooting on your part. A 10 round group without pause...keep up the good work.
48.3 grains of IMR 4831 with the Sierra100 grain SPBT works fine. 105 grain Hornady red tipped BT with 46.1 grains of WMR1 drives nails in my stainless fluted Remington SPF 700.
I have 9. ..6mm rifles.
I purchased a Remington model 700 "VARMINT SPECIAL" in 6mm Remington back about 25 years ago. Love the cartridge!
Back in 1995, I had the privilege to build my own custom barrel for that action in 6mm Ackley Improved! Cut the barrel to 26" and a muzzle diameter of 1".
The rifle is a scary accurate combo! Many groups in the 0.2's, and 0.3's. And with a few in the sub 0.1"!
What a lovely rifle! Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! We greatly appreciate it! --Jeremiah
6mm Remington is the first cartridge I reloaded back in the late 90’s. My son needed a deer rifle and I found a Md 700 at a pawnshop. I knew nothing about the 6mm. Went home and did some research and went back the next day and bought the rifle. My son still shoots that thing. I was able to find a Ruger #1B in 6mm with a 24” barrel. 85gr Barnes Triple shocks travel around 3285fps out of it. Both rifles have taken several deer. One of my favorite rounds obviously.
I still have a 700 BDL varmint in 6mm that I bought in 1979. One of the most accurate rifles that I've ever owned.
Always really liked and still have my Remington 700 ADL in 6mm Rem!
The Remington Custom Shop and factory in Illion, New York closed permanently on Mar 4, 2024.
The operation was moved to Georgia.
Ooh a favorite caliber!!
Great video! Love that vintage glass too.
Ken Waters Pet Loads is some of my favorite reading. You are carrying on his tradition.
I am honored to be considered in the same company as the man who wrote "Pet Loads"! He is a legend! We appreciate you watching and your continued support! --Jeremiah
As soon as I heard "Varmint" I paused and dug through my copies of every issue published so far. Spring '21 cover. I'll have to further check I pretty much went cover to cover.
*. The 6mm Rem. can fo anything the .243 Win can do, only it does it a little better. It will shoot all bullet weights up to 105 grains or so. The .244 Rem was designed for varmint hunting, but the 6mm Rem. with it's faster twist rate turned the cartridge in to a viable big game cartridge as well as an excellent varmint cartridge. With the improvements in powders and bullet designs it will only get better.
Nice video. I have a Mark X with a 27 inch bull barrel in 6mm which is next rifle to dial in.
Sounds like a great rifle!! You should be getting some pretty impressive velocities as well best of luck in your load development! --Jeremiah
Since you asked, my favourite varmint rifles are a Sako Benchrest rifle in 22 PPC and a Remington 700 VSSF in 220 Swift. Where do you buy a benchrest table like the one you are using? Thank you.
Beautiful rifle!
Great video and I like the format. I don’t have much experience with the 6mm REM but have always liked the 243 Win, which, as you know, is essentially the same thing. My 243 is a model 700 ADL and it really likes 95 grain Fusions and 100 grain Hornady BTSP. Both loads have worked well on pronghorn and varmits and I’m sure your rifle would accomplish the same.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience with the 243 Win, I appreciate it! It is a great cartridge for sure! Very similar to the 6mm Remington slightly slower velocity and slower twist which kept it from gaining the popularity of the 243 Win but both are very capable cartridges. Thank you for the kind words and feedback! --Jeremiah
@ You bet Jeremiah. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Love the look of this rifle.
Wow, 3844 fps with 44 grs of varget. I did not think it would shoot that fast!
-Nice
44 grains seems to be on the low end
95 grn combined technology bt 48 grns relader 22 accouted for many, many whitetail and muleys in my pops rem 700
I had a 700 BDL, 22", 9" twist. Loved it! My fav load was with a Sierra 85 gr HPBT, with 4350 cranking 3200 even. Wood Chucks were my targets, some pretty big ones, too. None ever escaped. With a 100 gr, it is 3/4 of a 270, and deer couldnt tell the difference. It was just too loud for farm country, tho, so I sold it. Still use my 222 Rem, tho, works just fine, always has.
BEEN getting hand loader magazine since it was available sure wish you guys would do either a video, preferably an article in an upcoming issue in the wildcat column on the 223 ackley improved 40° shoulder
I do have a contender chambered in 223 AI, it's a very interesting cartridge with a lot of misconceptions as well. I wouldn't mind doing a load development video or article on it. There's a lot to talk about with this cartridge.
Thank you very much for your long-standing support. It is because of good folks like you that we are able to provide good solid reliable and honest information to those who are interested. --Jeremiah
My buddy had a 6mm remington and brought it over one day. He had handloads. Oops! He blew it up. Ouch! Well, couple years later I found another Mauser action for him. He rebuilt it. Told me I really should pick up a 6mm rem should I find one. Three years later, I found a 6mm rem 700 adl, 6 digit receiver, for sale in like New condition. Bought it, love it, gonna pass it down. I'm 73. It is one of thr most accurate rifles I have.
That's a shame about loosing a rifle like that at least from the sound of it he wasn't hurt too bad. I'm definitely a big fan of the 6mm Rem as well great cartridge and very fun to load and shoot. Enjoy yours and best of luck with your shooting! --Jeremiah
how would the 6mm rem with a 1/8 twist and >110 gr bullets compare to the 6mm CM
As a longtime handloader for may dozens of cartridges, I have always found a similar problem with the cartridges based on the 7mm x 57mm case in American made bolt action rifles. Such as 6mm/.244 Remington and .257 Roberts.
What usually happens is the cartridge is chambered in the 'short action' version of the rifle. This does not allow one to seat a big game suitable bullet out far enough to take advantage of the additional powder capacity of the 6mm Remington v. the .243 WCF. What happens is, a 100gr. must be seated deeply in the case, encroaching on the powder capacity.
I have also run into the same problem with the .257 Roberts v. .250 Savage. The results are identical ballistics in _short action bolt rifles_ whether using the 2.233" (57mm) case length or the 2.015" (51mm) case length (or the even shorter 1.912" .250 Savage).
It was a mistake to decide to chamber this cartridge in short action bolt rifles, BUT Remington was trying to compete with Winchester's .243 which actually works well in short action rifles. Chambering it in a long (or 'standard') .30-06 length action would cause buyers to rethink whether they should just go with the .25-06 instead.
The 7x57mm case, and it's offspring, are handicapped with this 'neither fish nor fowl' problem. Too long for short actions, too short for long actions.
For best performance with this cartridge, a single shot rifle OR a .30-06 length bolt action would make the most of it.
I have the non custom shop version in gorgeous condition and a newer model 7, would love to see some better brass makers like Alpha supply some brass.
Also have a 1983 early model 7, 18” barrel favorite load Hornady 75 grain hollow point with IMR 4064 powder.
Awesome rifle would you guys do a 308 norma magnum if you guys have one
4350, 85 or 87 bullets, seat bullet long clost to lands, bed action, size cases .002 short of shoulder, annel necks, sight in at 200 yards
Growing up in western South Dakota, my dad‘s biggest rifle that he shot everything with was a 6 mm for the longest time as a young kid even shot an elk with it even Buffalo and other critters that was his biggest rifle about 20 years later than he went to the 2506 but I like that and now my brother has that rifle it was a custom built rifle with a 24 inch barrel a little bit heavier barrel but it’s on top of a Mauser model 98 actionthat I know will take a substantial. I know because they talked about back in the day. There was a guy and they were melting the brass it’s in this day and things are way too expensive to be doing a Mile. Vote is just fine.
First "high power" rifle I owned! Accurate, even with 105 gr bullets!
A long while back I had a 6MM much like yours. I was a Sako action with I think was a 26-inch heavy barrel. At the time I was loyal to the 75 grain Sierra hollow point. My interest was lost due to youthful short attention span, and I traded it for a Mauser action 458 Winchester of all things. That was back in 1974 and by 1976 that was traded off. Sorry I ramble.
That stringing might need to be addressed at some point. Minor bedding issue maybe?
You may be right it also could be the barrel heating up, it was pretty warm that day and shooting 10 rounds pretty quick is a lot to ask even with a Varmint contour barrel. It's something I'll definitely keep in mind though. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah
Imagine what a 6mm Rem could do with a proper twist barrel and modern high bc bullets.
I can tell you!!
I live the caliber. I finally decided to build my own. I strongly considered the improved version but in the end stayed with the origional.
I barreled it heavy contour 24" 1:8. Attached to a Weatherby VGL long action. (Howa) seated 108 Bergers to stay in the neck. Had the chamber throated for this extra length. As I had a long action I was no longer held to 2.8".
Later during load work up I surpassed 3200fps with a few 105-108g match bullets. Most shoot sub 1moa some shot alot better :)
It LOVES Federal blue box 80g. Factory too! I found a shop with most of a case and got a screaming deal cause no one had bought it for a decade! Good source of brass for me.
I stocked it in a oryx chassis and scoped it with a Arkin 6-24 SH4. Its heavy and not really a hunter. But built for funnout @ 1000 have t taken it there yet.
I'd prefer a 6mm rem to a 243. Perhaps even better a 6mm AI.
However ..the 243 is more practical per availability.
I like the longer neck..avoid donuts for sure ..more seating depth options and perhaps better (less) throat erosion..
Keep on doing different guns some day i would like to do a 760 in 6mm 😊
Absolutely we'll have quite a variety to kickstart this new series. Mostly small caliber stuff but there's some big bore stuff in the works as well. Thanks for watching!! --Jeremiah
COOL
80g TTSX is super accurate at 3600 fps with R#19 and 3500 fps with hot load of IMR 4064.
Add 200 fps to the 6 Rem AI.
25-06 and 6mm. Terribly over looked cartridges.
Indeed you could probably add a few other in there but I am a big fan of the 6mm Rem and 25 caliber in general. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
.244 rem. Twist 1:12, 6mm. Rem twist 1:9, 243 win. Twist 1;10. Which has the best Twist for 100 grain bullets? Gun writers just like the 243 better because not all of them are smart and besides you can use .308 win. Brass to load their. 243. 6mm handles more powder thuss more velocity.
Actually, podcasts don't cut it for me. I would rather have something that I can read and refer to if and when a need may arise. I'm sure some will disagree with me but that is just my personal opinion. But, thank you anyway.
Enjoy the older more classic guns like this one. You can see the latest tactical hyper-expensive toys everywhere. We are told the old guns won't kill anything anymore and we might as well throw them on the brush pile for firewood they are so old and useless. It's refreshing to see somebody shooting them and acknowledging how effective they are. Same for scopes, I'm tired of the 10 lb monsters everybody puts on rifles now. Why can't somebody still make a sleek scope that looks appropriate on a classy rifle? Most people aren't dialing for Elevation after every shot anyhow.
I’d say you shootin a wee bit fast………
beautiful rifle! great video thank you
Growing up in western South Dakota, my dad‘s biggest rifle that he shot everything with was a 6 mm for the longest time as a young kid even shot an elk with it even Buffalo and other critters that was his biggest rifle about 20 years later than he went to the 2506 but I like that and now my brother has that rifle it was a custom built rifle with a 24 inch barrel a little bit heavier barrel but it’s on top of a Mauser model 98 actionthat I know will take a substantial. I know because they talked about back in the day. There was a guy and they were melting the brass it’s in this day and things are way too expensive to be doing a Mile. Vote is just fine.