The New Haven RR (Electrics) & Long Island Railroad

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  • Опубліковано 1 тра 2019
  • Purchase a complete DVD or BLURAY of this Program-
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    Twilight of the New Haven Railroad
    Plus a Brief Look at the 1960s Long Island Railroad
    (The Films of Frank W. Schlegel)
    The New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad - the New Haven for short, was one of the proud old companies of New England for nearly a century.
    Best known for its nearly incomparable fleet of passenger trains connecting Boston and New York, two hundred thirty miles apart, the New Haven also ran commuter and local trains and an extensive freight operation.
    Since the late 1930s, the New Haven had been battered by bankruptcies, hurricanes, World War Two traffic, speculative managements, an interstate highway built parallel to its primary main line, airline competition, losses from its intense passenger operations, and shifting economic conditions in New England that rocked the railroad to its core.
    It’s now the mid-1960s. The New Haven has again been bankrupt since 1961. Its trustees were making valiant efforts to stem its financial erosion even as they sought safety for the road in the impending merger of the Pennsylvania and New York Central railroads. On January first, 1969, the New Haven Railroad would be no more.
    Featuring:
    NEW HAVEN ELECTRIC FL9s - COMMUTER TRAINS - MU ELECTRICS - EP-5 "JETS" - FA-1s - AMERICAN FLYER COACHES - EF-4s - ALCO DIESELS - LONG ISLAND RR SCENES...
    Approx. 47 Minutes
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 42

  • @hodgsontoaylen
    @hodgsontoaylen 3 роки тому +3

    Love the enthusiastic hand signal from the conductor at 2:55. The engineman knows what's going on and gets moving the other way quick. No hesitation. This is railroading.

    • @GreenFrogVideos
      @GreenFrogVideos  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks very much for watching! We appreciate your support.

  • @joepreterotti7963
    @joepreterotti7963 Рік тому +1

    I grew up and lived with my family in Stamford, CT
    and we took the great
    New Haven RR passenger cars
    to New Rochelle, NY,
    and to Grand Central
    in Manhattan too.
    I also remember seeing
    all the impressive
    NH RR Engines
    as part of their long freight trains going past our area.
    Currently, the same NH RR trackage operates
    the MTA commuter trains
    most of the day,
    and a few CSX freight trains
    operate over night going into various few Industrial customers located on the rail line,
    or they go on to the Rail Car Float operations
    in Brooklyn, NY,
    that ferries the freight cars
    on car float barges,
    powered by tug boats,
    to the New Jersey side
    of the Hudson River for further
    destinations.

  • @gregmilliken5538
    @gregmilliken5538 2 роки тому +2

    I was given some old copies of Trains Magazine back in 1989. One had a story about The New Haven RR. I have been a fan of that railroad ever since!

  • @owensweetland342
    @owensweetland342 3 роки тому +3

    My friends and I used to play on the tracks waiting for Boston bound FL-9 (?). What an awesome sight seeing that headlight bearing down on us. Thanks for the memories.

  • @vojta3657
    @vojta3657 Рік тому +2

    Great video. I immediately recognised the first song from Open TTD. So nostalgic.

  • @davidcoles198
    @davidcoles198 Рік тому +1

    I lived near the ny/nh rr so these are scenes from my youth

  • @johntapp1411
    @johntapp1411 4 роки тому +16

    The EP-5 could have been a vastly improved machine using silicon diode rectifiers and Head End Power. You would have you a more powerful, cooler running locomotive. You could even use the option of AC traction motors. Put an A/C on top of both cabs and you’d really have a machine that would replace the GG1.

    • @amberlantern9328
      @amberlantern9328 3 роки тому +2

      I KNOW RIGHT!!!!??? They look like an Alco PA with two noses and a pantograph on top, EPIC!!!! Imagine these in Amtrak colors working along side the GG1s, if there ever was a heaven to be in...

  • @JessicaKasumi1990
    @JessicaKasumi1990 5 років тому +13

    This is a great preview. Nice to see operations on what would become Amtrak's Northeast Corridor and Metro North's New Haven Line in the days before Amfleets pulled by Siemens ACS-64's or Acela Express trains for Amtrak, Kawasaki M8's, among other content used by Metro North would dominate these rails. Plus, lots of freight back then too, before freight became less frequent to the point where it is today. :) Thank you so much, once again, Green Frog.

    • @forestellis7723
      @forestellis7723 2 роки тому

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    • @forestellis7723
      @forestellis7723 2 роки тому

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    • @forestellis7723
      @forestellis7723 2 роки тому

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    • @raidendennis884
      @raidendennis884 2 роки тому

      @Forest Ellis you are welcome xD

  • @spacetruckerrob
    @spacetruckerrob 4 роки тому +3

    Did not know EP-5 handled freight trains! Nice

    • @JessicaKasumi1990
      @JessicaKasumi1990 3 роки тому +2

      The EP-5 could handle light freight. When several were rebuilt by Penn Central as E-40's, they continued freight runs. But, a lack of dynamic braking and MU cables to MU with other engines doomed them. The two in service when Conrail came (4973 and 4977) were retired in 1977, and all were scrapped by the end of 1979.

  • @daf827
    @daf827 3 роки тому +2

    Great footage.

  • @DanknDerpyGamer
    @DanknDerpyGamer 4 роки тому +1

    0:11 Harrison @ Playland Parkway?
    1:34 - 1:47 Looks like this wasn't taken too long after the yard in New Rochelle was torn up - look at 1:45 - 1:47, looks like there is a bit of wooden fence where some yard abutment was left in place.

  • @strakerrook354
    @strakerrook354 Рік тому +2

    I dont know why, I compare the EP5's with a locomotive from my country, the breda/marelli E-30/E-32

  • @everettthepetractionguy4222
    @everettthepetractionguy4222 3 роки тому +2

    I've always admired the problem-plaqued New Haven EP-5 "Jets". I hope to purchase the HO scale version from Rapido Trains, Inc. before they sell out. 🙂

    • @deepsleep7822
      @deepsleep7822 2 роки тому +2

      @everett: good luck with the purchase. 😟 I’ve had one on order since they announced them, over a year. Supposedly they’ll ship 4th quarter this year. We’ll see.

    • @everettthepetractionguy4222
      @everettthepetractionguy4222 2 роки тому +2

      @@deepsleep7822 Yes, we'll see. I pre-ordered my Rapido HO EP-5 a few months ago. I'll try to keep in touch. 👍😉

  • @DanknDerpyGamer
    @DanknDerpyGamer 4 роки тому +1

    2:24 Russel Burdsall & Ward Factory tracks on the left hand side of the 4-track mainline?

  • @KaciCooperations
    @KaciCooperations 3 роки тому +1

    What horn model from EP-5

  • @filanfyretracker
    @filanfyretracker Рік тому

    interesting enough the branch up to Danbury used to have the overhead wires and in the 60s or 70s they de-electrified it for whatever reason. I am sure when metro-north took over they wanted to strangle whoever made that decision. As they are electric along the coast.

  • @DanknDerpyGamer
    @DanknDerpyGamer 3 роки тому +1

    1:21 - 1:22 Wait, is this Pre-I-95 PIKE Interlocking w/ the old NYW&B track space not yet really cleared out of weeds and the like?

  • @lilcuzcrips9828
    @lilcuzcrips9828 Рік тому +3

    Like train

  • @BALD8BIL
    @BALD8BIL 5 років тому +2

    This is awesome to see thank you for sharing this with us I have a new Facebook group that would be sweet to have someone post this type of video to it my new Facebook group is called trains across the world my gold is to bring everyone together in this world to share the love of this hobby in one place from railfanning, how to videos, layout updates, abandoned railroads, long forgotten railroad, photos and anything about train's please feel free to stop by and check out the group and join us

  • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
    @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 2 роки тому +3

    Northeastern American railroads had a pretty rough history in the 60s, but the New Haven easily suffered the worst of them all.

  • @gordonvincent731
    @gordonvincent731 3 роки тому +1

    I started with PC NJ. Div 26 Nov. '74 as a student engineer and operated E33 motors. We always use pantographs on both motors. In this video, the head motor's pans are down, what's up with that??

    • @dock_yard1149
      @dock_yard1149 3 роки тому +1

      When known as EF-4’s on the New Haven, these units were always operated in pairs. Each pair was electrically tethered together by a high voltage bus cable hanging high across the gap between the 2 motors. That enabled only one pan to be contacting the wire for a 2 unit set. Penn Central discontinued the tethering and ran each EF-4 (they reclassified as E33) such that each had to grab the wire to receive juice.

    • @gordonvincent731
      @gordonvincent731 3 роки тому +2

      @@dock_yard1149 Thank you for your reply, now I know!! I appreciate it very much.

  • @doanster
    @doanster Рік тому +1

    Where was 1:28?

  • @Industrialmodels2
    @Industrialmodels2 5 років тому +1

    Oh jeez....this narrator needs to be furloughed.....bought the dvd though....this is an important collection!!

    • @johntapp1411
      @johntapp1411 4 роки тому +1

      Just gimme the mic, man. I’ll talk up these trains, you bet!!

  • @crudecaboose8382
    @crudecaboose8382 4 роки тому +1

    No green in this video at all

  • @Greatdome99
    @Greatdome99 5 років тому +4

    Cuts are maddeningly short. Annoying.

    • @Industrialmodels2
      @Industrialmodels2 4 роки тому

      Buy the dvd....that's the point of the preview 🙂

    • @DanknDerpyGamer
      @DanknDerpyGamer 3 роки тому +1

      @@Industrialmodels2 I think his point was that the timings were a bit akward/annoying.
      I fully plan on buying this eventually, as holy cow is it amazing seeing the old footage (plus taking still frames will make great references for modeling the NYNH&H in Trainz train sim. :D)

  • @0759trainz
    @0759trainz 21 день тому

    It really sucks that the other electrics the New Haven had at this time were all either scrapped or sitting out of service rotting away. All thanks to the idiot management's efforts to de-electrify. Thanks to them no one other than New Haven fans knows about the EP-3 flat bottoms, EP-4 streamliners, or the EF-3 monster power machines. 😢

  • @johnnyd63
    @johnnyd63 Місяць тому

    NY,NH &H. worst run railroad for 25 years.😢

  • @allsparkwars2644
    @allsparkwars2644 4 роки тому +4

    The lirr train is still there today! It’s stored near Jamaica yards on the way to Atlantic