ALCo's on the Island
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- LIRR in the late 1960s
"Out on the Island." To New Yorker's, that means Long Island. Other than inching along the expressways in stifling traffic, getting there means the Long Island Railroad. The commuter is "King" on the LIRR. From Penn Station in MAnhattan to Jamaica on the "Island" and beyond means a ride on the road's ubiquitous "Multiple Unit" trains, or "MU's." But, in decades past, it also meant diesel powered train - American Locomotive Works Diesel powered trains.
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Anybody else love the puring sound of the alcos?
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Yes love them Alco s.
The old electric trains had a nicer paint scheme then the M 1 s . Ii also love the grey and orange over the blue a m.h d yellow .
purink? purrink ? pourring ? püddink vv
Yup, sure did, sw yard engines with that distinctive sound were a favorite, i know where one is sitting and not getting any attention, sad….
I grew up in Hicksville, with the LIRR literally right in my backyard. These images and sounds bring back some nice memories. I remember the Alcos from the early 70's.
Born and Raised in Northport, Lived across the street from Northport High School. Walked the ROW to the car wash many times to Cow Harbor Deli ( New Establisment ) Rode the PJ line many many times… Loved the ending with Alco thats a proper ending to a beast.
Nothing like standing between cars spring and summer smeeling the honeysuckle that lined the tracks.
Facinating! I grew up Cedaruhurst and the LIRR always mangaged to have a place in my life. I remember flattening pennies on rails and finding old Playboy's in the station as a young boy. Then I took the train to Jamaica for 3 years on my way to high school. Now I am fighting for the reactivation of the Rockaway Beach Branch, AKA QueensRail.
Great scenes here that remind me of my teenage years when I'd visit Mineola, a train-watchers paradise, and watch express trains zip on by. Or take a bicycle trip along the main line from Ronkonkoma to Deer Park. Or just sit at my home station at Stony Brook and watch the passing trains. Even today, what other 61-year-old monitors the LIRR by subscribing to all email service messages? Just got one saying a Montauk train was cancelled. Thanks for this film.
My kingdom for a time machine.
53:57 my dad worked for LIRR and at the Port Jefferson yard back in the late 80’s. I would go visit him after school sometimes to say hi. I miss those days and my dad.
Spectacular! I lived on Long Island long after these scenes... it is my loss but with this film, I was able to enjoy these scenes!
Same here but I only saw M3s M7s C3s and De/Dm diesels
Not M1s and ALCos
I'm watching this for the 3rd time! My family moved from Seaford in 1969 to Charlotte, NC. I was 10 and heartbroken. No Carvel. No Mets. No pizza. NO LIRR?? There's no passenger trains here? How do people get to work? Needless to say I was already a railfan at a very young age. Seaford and the towns to the east and west were electrified, however when we ventured north of Hempstead Tpke I would see diesels in towns like Hicksville and Bethpage. Spotting a diesel was an awesome experience for me. The introduction of the Budd trains in 1968 was also a big event for me. My Dad took us to see the Rangers-LA Kings game @ MSG and that was my first ride on one of the "new" trains. Thanks for the great film!
Great story Mr. Rosen! I'm glad you enjoyed this unique film. Thanks for watching!
Mr Rosen , i feel the same way because i moved from Brooklyn to South Florida in 2013.....i miss what NYC had to offer, including the Mets and the New Haven RR thru the Bay Ridge Division in Brooklyn, my house was a half a block away from the freight line :)
I moved to Raleigh two years but miss all the traces and memories of the New Haven, Rutland Road and Central Vermont I left behind in New England.
@@jordant7935 why do I love Alco RS3 number 1556
It's now 2020 and 6 years after my original comment post. As far as I know, this is the only video that shows mid-late 1960's MU cars with the World's Fair livery- the Orange and Gunmetal Gray. When I was around 10 yrs old I would draw pictures of LIRR Diesel Locos, mostly Alco RSD's. I wish this video featured the live sound with a chance to hear the old MU "Clarinet Horn". Before the grade crossing eliminations between Massapequa and Freeport I'd wait in the back of our Mercury Station Wagon parked on Brooklyn Ave. near Washington Ave. Seconds before the "6:09" from Penn Station would pull into the Seaford Station and when I heard the whistle singing "Oh, My Papa" I knew my Daddy was just a couple of minutes away. I have a quite vivid memory from when I was just 4 years old and my mother and I chose to wait on the station platform instead of waiting in the car. I remember looking east down the tracks and seeing what I thought was a fire. I walked back into the shelter where my mother was seated and seconds later an LIRR freight train FLEW BY at around 50-60mph kicking up dirt and debris that pelted my legs. I had NO IDEA a train was coming. If anyone knows a website that features old photos of LIRR especially in the 1960'-70's post it as a "reply" below this posting. Watching this film allows me to relive parts of my childhood. Sadly, all my relatives who lived in LI with the exception of 2 cousins are gone now. Seeing this classic film reminds me of the period when everyone was living.
They should bring back the blue/orange and other color schemes. It makes the railroad more welcoming and charming than the cold metal finish.
And the M3 cars are still running along with M7s and M9s
No not really. They haven’t been in active service for about a year
The Montauk cut off is now history. it had to go to make room for the new East Side Access layup yards.
At 51:10, that was an old potato field there on the east side of the road, on Lake Road. (In between Greenlawn and Huntington stations.) Wow!! That field is all overgrown with trees now. It hasn't been that clear in decades. I used to cross that R/R crossing everyday on the school bus from '68-'76! I remember that same exact train and the sound of it's horn!! ( I even remember the "old-time" wooden telephone poles that ran along the track, before they put up those big high-voltage ones.) That brought back a lot of memories! Thank you so much for posting this!! :)
The fields have been turned into an upscale housing development two years ago. Not sure how the land was never developed until recently.
I grew up on Greenport and Mattituck, leaving to join the USAF in 1965, never to return to LI. I remember a lot of Fairbank Morse power in those days.
53:12 that’s the Lower Sheep Pasture Rd. bridge in Port Jefferson and it’s still there today.
I waited on that bridge, on my bicycle many times to watch a train go by.
But the rails are the road
I would run one just to piss off liberals !
27:54 Hillside Ave looking North in East Williston.
The Alco company missed the steam engines so much that they made those diesel engines smoke like the steam engines.
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Absolutely love and miss those diesel engines!
The LIRR like most railroads in the east ran their engines long hood forward so the engineer's view was not unlike that from a steam engine's cab.
they smoke more than indian chiefs
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Tyreek Murillo your point?
Around 1977 I rode an ERA fan trip on the experimental M1 cars with a gas turbine generator to provide power for the traction motors and lightning out to the Pilgrim State spur. The experiment didn’t work out and was abandoned by the MTA.
I loved the Pilgrim State Hospital train hauling all the Nutters.
20:18 The M1 fan trip had to have ended at East Williston. They probably had to park it out of the way of main line traffic for a little while.
Great video of the Alco's on the LIRR. I remember commuting on the Oyster Bay branch with C420s and RS3 units, and sometimes an RS1 would be the power. Lots of good memories. Too bad the narrator couldn't figure out eastbound vs westbound.
Great video. Thanks so much.
My great uncle’s funeral was headed by an ex-Biafran soldier, speaking of Biafra in the video.
Really love this footage of the LIRR in its heydey.
I finally got around to watching this and it was a pleasure! Grew up near the Far Rockaway Branch so it was nice to see some shots of the Gibson station. M1's crossed just up the block from me and never saw any diesel power....until the Blizzard of 1983. Was shoveling the driveway with my parents when all of a sudden I heard the unmistakable trumpeting of a diesel horn. Ran to the curb just as an RS3 led a set of P-72's over the snowbound crossing. Dad, who was not a train guy, said it was probably because the 3rd rail was covered up. To say I was excited was an understatement, and my folks were VERY tired of still hearing me talking about it by the end of that day LOL. LIRR, "We Serve With Pride"
I never knew the Long Island Railroad had its own Rainbow era at the same time as Amtrak had its Rainbow Era
Woodside NY chiming in! I loved taking the LIRR wherever we could! Especially on trips to Montaulk!
At 22:09 1. That is my town there. 2. Also at 22:09 My dad's friend used to work for the LIRR back in those days. Most people were too lazy to get out of the train to flip the switch so they would drop a piece of wood which would do the work for them. One day he dropped the piece of wood and the switch jammed causing the train to flip on it's side.
I remember those engines well after passenger service they were used in freight . They sadly replaced the Rs 1 2 and 3s in the latter half of the 70 s . They still have a RS 3 at Riverhead train station in siding and is owned by the museum
Brand new M1 cars👀👀👀👀
I grew up 1 block from the Port Jeff station. No A/C so I heard all the engines 'snoring' during the night. You didn't want to get stuck at the RR gates in the evening when they were setting up for the next morning rush. My grandfather was a LIRR engineer. Never met him though. "The dashing commuter" symbol was their logo. Uncle Fred would stop by half drunk from the bar car.
Excellent vintage videos, brings back my youngest days in Ronkonkoma
Great video collections! Born into an LIRR family growing up in Smithtown, NY. but really great to see what was in place before the 1970's.
The voiceover sounds an awful lot like the current one used on automated announcements. Must be the same person.
WOW, brandnew super clean M1's!
Great memories I remember the transition period on the Oyster Bay and Port Washington lines MP 54s next to new M1s which broke down all the time the 54s were old but could get through any snow storm
R.I.P. ALCO. Better remembered(atleast in my eyes) for steam locomotives like the NYC Hudsons and Union Pacific Big Boys
Where are the ex Alco C420 s and Rs 3 s from LIRR . Where they now
Most lirr C420s were scrapped. There is one rs3 at the riverhead railroad museum
C420 #220 is in a train museum in mexico. It is currently in a different paint scheme and is still operating
LAL 420 is very active in Avon NY! Former LI 200
This video has a film clip at 48:55 of a train of MP54s at Cold Spring Harbor. I lived in Huntington and commuted on the LIRR in the years (late 60s) that electrification was extended to Huntington on the Port Jeff line. I never saw anything except the diesel (Alco power) trains of ping pongs (P54s) and P72s. Then the brand new M1s on the new electrification section when it was complete. This clip seems to indicate there were MP54s running to Huntington. Has anyone else have any information that the older electrics ever went to Huntington?
The snow plow behind the turntable is available from ATLAS as a " O" SCale Model in 2022 as a special order for $ 100.00 each.. A walk around would have been great.
I grew up 1 block from the Port Jefferson end of line. (It used to terminate at Wading River?-I think.) I spent many a summer night listening to the growl of these idling locomotives, and the noise of crews staging the next morning's rush hour trains.
Thank you so much for sharing this.I lived on Long Island in Center Moriches area from the late 50's to late 70's.It was great to see all these ALCO's in action once again.It gave me more modeling ideas for my model railroad. Outstanding footage of them.
If you have a facebook, feel free to look up "Railfans of the Long Island Railroad" for photos of that time. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the info.
@@jordant7935 give me the timestamps of the elevated stations
Loved it! Used to live a block away from the Port Washington Station and worked for 15 years in the shadow of the Manhasset Viaduct. Ironically, had to drive to work because it sits between the Great Neck and Manhasset Stations..
jjj11330 Hey I moved to Port Washington back in 1977 for 2 years ,its where my girlfriend lived. (never seen so many rich people in my life !!!) I loved that Viaduct in Manhasset !! I'm from Mass, and they got the "Blizzard of 78" and 3 ft of snow and in Port Wash. we got 3-4 in Ice storm that broke almost every tree and ele.pole, the streets and side walks had giant 3-4 in Ice ruts everywhere you could drive or walk at all ! But in Mass. they lost power for 1-3 days in Port Wash. we had no power for 2 weeks !!! crazy but the train line saw diesels for a while !!! C420/GP38/MP-15 !!! back in 78' the EMDs were only a year old I loved those High-Adhesion trucked C420s and I hated those M1 electric things !!! Next year we move to Newburyport,MA. for a proper winter ! Lol
My grandchildren love it.
I miss the old color scheme of Orange and Gray the good old days heck as a kid I remember the G5 steamer at the turntable in Patchogue!!! The Ronkonkoma and Portjefferson Wye also there gone know but the memory is still there!!
This video is underrated
Cool video. Makes me long for the "good old days"!
I remember when visiting my Great Grandparents in Westbury(New Castle), I would be fascinated by the trains passing near the playground.
Grew up in Huntington in the '60's and '70's, including a few years before they electrified the Port Jeff branch out to Huntington. As a little kid standing on the ground level platform, watching those outbound Alco's come smoking and chuffing around the curve at speed over the NY Ave bridge into the station was both enthralling and terrifying. Once the train was stopped you'd look up at that massive towering machine and it was pure magic.
This made me so homesick for a better, simpler time. All the lost gems like real, no-kidding, one-off neighborhood pizzarias that weren't the same generic stuff, tiny local bagel shops that actually boiled them in the window, German bakeries, deli's with sawdust on the floors that would make a killer sandwich so fat you couldn't open your mouth wide enough, Chock Full O' Nuts, Ice Cream Parlors, neighborhood diners with awesome cheap grub, the 1969 Mets, the 1970 Jets and Knicks, the World's Fair, the Beatles, cars you could actually work on yourself...
I loved the raw, gritty, realness of the LIRR trains as opposed to the insular ride you get now. I'd hang out in the rear car open air vestibule every chance I could with nothing but those 3 dangling chains roping off the back opening. I remember you could open the sliding windows and stick your head out; walking through the train and changing cars - you'd hop over the gap looking down at the track speeding by, traversing the bar car full of smoke and businessmen commuting home, playing cards and getting hammered...
Also loved the old paint scheme. These old videos even provided a few glimpses of the old "Dashing Dan" decals on the sides of the coaches. Good times - thanks for a melancholy trip down memory lane.
Loved your fine video - thanks for sharing it. I've never ridden the Long Island, but would love to some day!
21:47 Thank you so much for uploading this! I work across the parking lot from where the Republic station was, and have always wondered what the sign looked like. Not much, but the footage is beautiful, thanks again!
Anyone remember what year they elevated Westbury ? The Oyster Bay Branch was only electrified to East Williston
Im pretty sure that some of the lines that were in this video are now abandoned
howardkevinm the ones that are abandoned on the Island are the Manorville-Eastport Cutoff, Wading River Branch, THe Pilgrim Spur, The Kings Park Spur, The Creedomore Branch, The Hempsted-West Hempstead Connection, the Mineola-Garden City line, The Rockaway Beach Branch, The Sag Harbor Line, The Bethpage Branch, The Northport Branch, The Central Extension that ran from the current end of the Garden Mitchell secondary to B-Tower, the connection between the Garden City Yard and the main near Westbury, and there are 1 or 2 more that I cant think of at the Moment.
By far this is the best Alco high hood out . Best Alco video out I remember these locomotives when I was a kid .
Great video. Brought back some good memories back in Long Island.
The Island Park branch was my first railroad trip in 1960 with my parents and my uncles family. The MP54 with the raised railroad roof was used.
why does lirr drive their alcos backwards
Awesome video
Great video, Great locations, Much of the RR before the MTA. Hooray to the photographer!
great video, that was a very pleasant trip down memory lane.
Really like this video , reminds me of former years when the LIRR was really a RR and not a suburban mass transit facility . REally complete history of the Alco era of the LIRR.
That's absolutely amazingly awesome!
Superb video, thanks for presentation, from Germany
Great vid! What trolls downvoted this?!
Fantastic movie!
The LIRR mainline does NOT now nor has it ever begun at penn station. Harold interlocking to Penn station is Amtrak trackage. LIRR mainline is Long Island City to Jamaica via Hunterspoint Ave. and on to Hicksville, Ronkonkoma and Greenport.
9:48 Hollis platform or hillside facility???? Ahhh The old union hall
Whats going on with the Long Island Rail Road history page? Its like no one is up dating or maintaining it any more.
Great video of my favorite MUs! (the MP54) Thanks you Jordan T!
Cannonball parlor cars ,was this something other than the standard Cannonball
Nice
One question no one seems to be able to answer... Did the West Hempstead branch ever hook up with the Hempstead branch? There are rumors that the two lines hooked up behind the grounds of Doubleday publishing; but no solid evidence (aside from old tracks, R.O.W., and tracks crossing Franklin av- now covered up)???
they hooked up at Country Life Press. The ROW is visible today. It this was built in 1893. It lasted all the way until the 60s when the Mineola to Country life Press stretch of track. (built in 1839) was abandoned. So to answer your question, yes they did hook up
Great Video!
love the video, quick question does any footage of the FM C-liner's exist, when I do a search all I ever find is model's
The coaches looked alot nicer dark Grey. The locomotives also looked alot nicer Grey and orange
I like the dark grey coaches with either orange or white around the windows the light colored coaches with blue stripe are ugly .
Hmmm...all this time I thought that area was called Lon Guy Land.
Very cool video. So much history.
Look folks, real cars (autos) on the roadway. No computer trash.
Great video! Thanks for sharing. Brought back some very nice memories. I wonder if any of these old LIRR MU cars survived and are still around today.
Most of the MP54s, MP72s and MP75s are scrapped now, though some of the MUs are on tourist railroads and such.
I think they have an MU in Riverhead At The Railroad Museum Of Maybe Greenport At The Railroad Museum
1:02:17 Looks like this was captured from the Napeague Meadow Road Crossing West of Montauk.
I dont think so. The landscape in that area is flat marsh and pine barrens, with straight and level track. Video shows thick woods with bends in the track, and going up a slight incline
The platforms still look like shit
the MP72s had bells.!?
M7's, porto-sans on wheels
Anyone know how fast they let #60 go up to?
From what I've heard, about 60mph. Thanks for watching!
damn... thats her top speed according to the BRW
Traffic along the East end North and south forks is now a congested clog of cars and trucks. The LIRR should profit from the desire of tourists and others to travle on the two forks, but that never happens.
the 1556 should be restore
Long Island Mowers & More I feel that might not happen for a bit, but one of the LIRR C420s is still in existence, now Buffalo Southern number 2010, at least I think it is. If possible I’d like to see her return to Long Island (her original number was 221) and maybe have a full restoration too. Maybe 1556-221 joint operations would be a sight to behold!
@@mikeytrains1 update. I belong to the LIRR museum and we are working hard to “restore” 1556 to its original heritage again! Also their are multiple c420s around!
The LIRR is just a suburban subway.
Modern freight cars are too big to be used on the LIRR. Also the LIRR has no real desire to carry freight, unless the New York State government will subsidize them, a ridiculous idea when you realize the delivery of freight adds as much time to the delivery as needed to carry the cars from Chicago.
ahh yes more MP class DMUs are here
Babylon to Jamaica! lol.
As of 5/1/1997,Long Island changed its name to New York & Atlantic.
Hi Kurt. The New York & Atlantic Railroad is on a 20 year lease from 1997 to handle freight. Passenger operations are still run by the LIRR
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Great video. Brought back some good memories back in Long Island.
Thanks for watching!
@@jordant7935 were there any engines and or EMUs that are preserved
If so
Give me the list of those engines and EMUs