Great video mate, I live in Scarborough so this journey is one I used to take regularly ( until a car came into my life). I love this type of videos , keep up the great work.
Watching this video after a week in Yorkshire. I took this line to visit Scarborough :) The new trains are awesome and the TransPenine staff really nice.
after Kirkham Abbey is Howsham crossing,Then Plain Moor crossing(i lived there as a child) next Barton Hill(my grandfather was the crossing keeper there from 1950's until his retirement) he lived in the original station house until the one was built at the other side of the A64 along with the platform.
I would probably be the worst train driver ever because as soon as I hear those typical train sounds, I doze off. Here, I had fallen asleep before the first stop at Seamer station. ☺
Very nice journey. A clear day suddenly turns rainy towards the end with a huge dark cloud gathering suddenly out of the blue sky. Funny how the weather changes in England. Why was the sound suddenly turned off towards the end though?
I didn’t drive on that video and the driver that did got involved in operational conversation with the conductor in the back cab. I’ve arranged for more videos to be filmed north of York. Bear with me.
Incredible how Seamer has changed. My uncle Harold Leonard was the station Master there in the 1960s and there was a LOT of railway there. Two signal boxes, freight sidings that often had coaches in them, the road crossed at a level crossing and there were semaphores galore, many on gantries. The station had a beautiful canopy and it generally felt like a very exciting place for a train mad young boy.
So what's with the monotone horn at whistle boards? When I was a kid the drivers ( I asked) told me that regs. required all horn blasts from trains to be dual tone "so as to differentiate them between a train and regular motor vehicles".
Its relatively new Greg and its to try and cut down on noise pollution. These whistle boards go back to the days of steam when the driver peered through a grubby little window down the side of a 30 ft boiler with smoke and steam. I personally agree with the low tone and in many cases where the viewing is good, I’d do away with them altogether.
Thanks, Don! I guess that makes sense (what with it being rather tight towards the platforms' start the other side of the bridge). Must say though, I hate to see it! I'd much rather see some scissors on a dual track... but no doubt that's not as cheap to set up and maintain!
here's a silly question for Don....do all the train staff, drivers and guards and etc, who board the train at the beginning of the work shift return at the end of the shift to the place where they started so they can spend their off time at home until the next shift? if not, where and in what accomodations do they spend the off time and who pays for the expenses when they are away from home?
Good question. It depends on the operator but where I work, the only reason we wouldn’t normally return to our “signing on location” would be adverse weather conditions and in that case we would be given hotel accommodation. We often travel one way by taxi either at the beginning or end of a shift and these journeys are scheduled in to the days work. Most train operators have phenomenal transport expenses for staff but it is probably not well understood that the logistics of getting staff to trains is bewildering. The staff never pay for any of these accommodation or travelling expenses unless it is something they have organised for themselves.
Couple of problems noticed. 1) No cab signal when passing over several of the AWS ramps - are they inactive or broken? 2) Missed at least five (to my count) whistle boards without sounding horn/whistle.
Yes, I know about that. Some of the sound was intentionally edited out but being a bit clumsy at editing I seem to have got some of the soundtrack out of phase. In reality, everything was working and the driver never missed a single whistle board (not me on this occasion because I don’t sign that route) .
If you’d read the comments, you would realise that I made a mess of syncing the sound and as such, the sound of the AWS pops up when there are no signals. Don’t worry, the whistle boards were all adhered to and not one was missed.
Don, although it does not relate to this video, there is something I have been meaning to ask you. On other videos you have explained how expensive it is to lower the floors of tunnels, or raise the height of bridges to accommodate overhead electric wires. On some of your videos I have noticed third rail electrification. The same as you see coming out of Brighton for example. Why cant modern dmu trains employ a third rail shoe, instead of, or as well as a pantograph? Installing a live rail must be cheaper than altering bridges and tunnels? If safety is the issue, why does it not apply to all of the UK?
I’m not an expert Brian but I understand that third rail (DC) traction isn’t not as efficient as over head wire (AC) traction and in the U.K., the step of adding third rails increases risk of injury to persons, whether they are workers or trespassers.
I hadn't realised that the track briefly changes from double to single track and then back to double immediately on the Malton side of Scarborough Bridge over the Ouse as you are approaching York. Why does it do that?
A lot of those junctions appeared in the 70s and 80s as cost cutting measures. It is called a “single lead junction” and allows trains to cross over so in this case, the train enters platform 4 but it could cross over to platform 5. Of course, it causes and operating restriction as only one train can use it so new signalling schemes often see them removed.
@@doncoffey5820 This is in advance of a junction. Double track approaches the bridge, goes single for maybe 100 yards and then back to double to go across the bridge and towards the platforms. It's not like the case of a double track branch which merges to single which then has a ladder junction with the first and then the second track of a main line, which is what I understand as being a single lead. I could have understood if it was single track across the bridge to avoid unequal load, like they do at Ribblehead.
What is that beeping sound. It does not seem to exactly seem to correspond with crossings ? My guess is that it relays the train’s location to the main signal center.
Looks and sounds to me like an audible alert to an upcoming signal and its setting. High beep is a green signal ahead and (not sure if this is on this or other videos) a deeper beep signifies an amber signal. Beep occurs as train passes over a metal 'hump' between the rails, which presumably contains a transponder.
@@doncoffey5820 I did notice that, yes. But still, it looks very impressing! (While normally, i don't particularly prefer the wide angle lens Cabviews, due to the distortion at closer ranges) But reading between the lines: There are faster accelerating diesels over there in the UK, aren't there? ^^
@@doncoffey5820 That's amazing!! As a dieseltrain enthusiast, UK's complete collections of various dieseltrains never ceases to amaze me. Especially since over here (In the Netherlands) our national railway (NS) decommissioned it's last dmu two years ago. Now only the smaller railway companies have a few of them left, combining to a total of mainly just two remaining classes of dmu's. On these classes, a top speed of 140 km/h (about 88m/h) can be considered really fast for a diesel! Seeing your regular commuter trains sometimes doing a 100m/h, honestly is mindblowing!
Why edit the sound at all, surely the sound of the aws and the warning horn is all part of the journey, makes the driver look like he’s not observing the crossing warnings!.
Its called a Single Lead Junction and its done for various reasons. The bridge over the river was very old and weak so they put this junction in to stop two trains passing on the bridge at the same time.
You are fine man Don Coffee, making a lot of mainly old railway nutters very happy. Have a Beer for me ....Graham
Cheers Graham. Not tonight though, I’m just about to work a train from Leeds to Manchester!
Love these videos, really interesting. Views that you normally don’t see. Keep them up
Great video mate, I live in Scarborough so this journey is one I used to take regularly ( until a car came into my life).
I love this type of videos , keep up the great work.
There will be some new Class 68/MkV videos for that route coming in 2019.
@@doncoffey5820 Fantastic mate, I'm looking forward to them.
It's strange how therapeutic these videos are
Yes, I've given up ASMR videos for train videos.
Very true Tony, I find them very relaxing .
I really enjoy these videos. Like taking a trip to the UK daily! Cheers Don.
Glad you join us Martin 👍
Watching this video after a week in Yorkshire. I took this line to visit Scarborough :)
The new trains are awesome and the TransPenine staff really nice.
Glad you liked both Oscar.
Fantastic wonderful brilliant best train 🚆🚆 ride 👍 I've done your number 1 thanks
Same again, much appreciated.
Really enjoy your work Don, watched your videos with much enjoyment and this is one I missed but pleased to have seen it today.
Glad you enjoyed it. I’ll be doing a new version of that soon.
after Kirkham Abbey is Howsham crossing,Then Plain Moor crossing(i lived there as a child) next Barton Hill(my grandfather was the crossing keeper there from 1950's until his retirement) he lived in the original station house until the one was built at the other side of the A64 along with the platform.
It sounds lovely Brian. Thank you for sharing 👍
alway's like this journey both way's. lot's of wild life . i alway's manage to see a couple of buzzard's thankyou
Glad you enjoyed it Brian. I often see red kites up there too.
I would probably be the worst train driver ever because as soon as I hear those typical train sounds, I doze off. Here, I had fallen asleep before the first stop at Seamer station. ☺
By the way. The speed was bang on. Really did enjoy every second of it
Much appreciated Elvis.
I'm enjoying all your videos. Keep on posting.
Great video as always, thanks for the upload
Very nice journey. A clear day suddenly turns rainy towards the end with a huge dark cloud gathering suddenly out of the blue sky. Funny how the weather changes in England. Why was the sound suddenly turned off towards the end though?
I didn’t drive on that video and the driver that did got involved in operational conversation with the conductor in the back cab. I’ve arranged for more videos to be filmed north of York. Bear with me.
A great video this. Driving trains must be the best job in the world!
I reckon it probably is! Cheers Gaz.
Incredible how Seamer has changed. My uncle Harold Leonard was the station Master there in the 1960s and there was a LOT of railway there. Two signal boxes, freight sidings that often had coaches in them, the road crossed at a level crossing and there were semaphores galore, many on gantries. The station had a beautiful canopy and it generally felt like a very exciting place for a train mad young boy.
So what's with the monotone horn at whistle boards? When I was a kid the drivers ( I asked) told me that regs. required all horn blasts from trains to be dual tone "so as to differentiate them between a train and regular motor vehicles".
Its relatively new Greg and its to try and cut down on noise pollution. These whistle boards go back to the days of steam when the driver peered through a grubby little window down the side of a 30 ft boiler with smoke and steam. I personally agree with the low tone and in many cases where the viewing is good, I’d do away with them altogether.
Another nice video thanks don cheers bob.
Very neat video. I didn't realize it was that rural! Is Malton the only stop on that line?
Seamer and Malton are the normal stops.
Any idea what class of multiple unit - possibly a class 185 ? Thanks, Dana.
A twist on the old song here, "Are you going FROM Scarborough Fair"! LOL
Wait until you see the next video Neil! ;-)
@@doncoffey5820 And did that song stick in your brain as well? LOL
Yes it did, even in bed!
Why does it go to single track for barely 100 feet or so at 45:40 before it doubles again to cross the Ouse?
Its basically a cheap junction. It allows the trains to cross over between the two lines improving access to and from York.
Thanks, Don! I guess that makes sense (what with it being rather tight towards the platforms' start the other side of the bridge). Must say though, I hate to see it! I'd much rather see some scissors on a dual track... but no doubt that's not as cheap to set up and maintain!
here's a silly question for Don....do all the train staff, drivers and guards and etc, who board the train at the beginning of the work shift return at the end of the shift to the place where they started so they can spend their off time at home until the next shift? if not, where and in what accomodations do they spend the off time and who pays for the expenses when they are away from home?
Good question. It depends on the operator but where I work, the only reason we wouldn’t normally return to our “signing on location” would be adverse weather conditions and in that case we would be given hotel accommodation. We often travel one way by taxi either at the beginning or end of a shift and these journeys are scheduled in to the days work. Most train operators have phenomenal transport expenses for staff but it is probably not well understood that the logistics of getting staff to trains is bewildering. The staff never pay for any of these accommodation or travelling expenses unless it is something they have organised for themselves.
1:11 Scarborough Londesborough Road Railway Station appearing into view.
I made a mess of editing the sound on that early attempt. I’ll do it again one day.
Couple of problems noticed. 1) No cab signal when passing over several of the AWS ramps - are they inactive or broken? 2) Missed at least five (to my count) whistle boards without sounding horn/whistle.
Yes, I know about that. Some of the sound was intentionally edited out but being a bit clumsy at editing I seem to have got some of the soundtrack out of phase. In reality, everything was working and the driver never missed a single whistle board (not me on this occasion because I don’t sign that route) .
not every AWS is active to each train one is active and a mile seperation of each said one...is that correct Don ?
A very nice run.
Awesome upload. Thank you!
Naughty naughty no whistling at the whistle boards
If you’d read the comments, you would realise that I made a mess of syncing the sound and as such, the sound of the AWS pops up when there are no signals. Don’t worry, the whistle boards were all adhered to and not one was missed.
Often made this journey as a child going on holiday to Scarborough. Brings back happy memories and great to see the journey from the cab. Thank you.
You sound cringe
Might see me one day! ;)
Don, although it does not relate to this video, there is something I have been meaning to ask you. On other videos you have explained how expensive it is to lower the floors of tunnels, or raise the height of bridges to accommodate overhead electric wires. On some of your videos I have noticed third rail electrification. The same as you see coming out of Brighton for example. Why cant modern dmu trains employ a third rail shoe, instead of, or as well as a pantograph? Installing a live rail must be cheaper than altering bridges and tunnels? If safety is the issue, why does it not apply to all of the UK?
I’m not an expert Brian but I understand that third rail (DC) traction isn’t not as efficient as over head wire (AC) traction and in the U.K., the step of adding third rails increases risk of injury to persons, whether they are workers or trespassers.
Love this view point
That will be re-published next Rob. I’m just working on it.
I hadn't realised that the track briefly changes from double to single track and then back to double immediately on the Malton side of Scarborough Bridge over the Ouse as you are approaching York. Why does it do that?
A lot of those junctions appeared in the 70s and 80s as cost cutting measures. It is called a “single lead junction” and allows trains to cross over so in this case, the train enters platform 4 but it could cross over to platform 5. Of course, it causes and operating restriction as only one train can use it so new signalling schemes often see them removed.
@@doncoffey5820 This is in advance of a junction. Double track approaches the bridge, goes single for maybe 100 yards and then back to double to go across the bridge and towards the platforms.
It's not like the case of a double track branch which merges to single which then has a ladder junction with the first and then the second track of a main line, which is what I understand as being a single lead.
I could have understood if it was single track across the bridge to avoid unequal load, like they do at Ribblehead.
Yes, I know which part you are referring too. I’m not aware of any other reason for it but I will come back to you if I find out otherwise.
Another enjoyable video although I did find the scenery wasn't quite a interesting as I though it would be.
Yes, that’s quite old footage that was provided by a colleague of mine. It’s probably due for an update by now.
What is that beeping sound. It does not seem to exactly seem to correspond with crossings ? My guess is that it relays the train’s location to the main signal center.
That was my first go at editing soundtrack and it was a disaster. I think maybe you heard the vigilance device.
Looks and sounds to me like an audible alert to an upcoming signal and its setting. High beep is a green signal ahead and (not sure if this is on this or other videos) a deeper beep signifies an amber signal. Beep occurs as train passes over a metal 'hump' between the rails, which presumably contains a transponder.
Note: There is no beep where there are semaphore signals.
Keep in mind Ian that there are some syncing issues in that video due to my being hopeless at editing at the time. I’ve improved a lot since then.
@@doncoffey5820 Looks/sounds to me as though your syncing is spot on as far as the beeps and signals are concerned.
That is one rapidly accelerating Diesel Unit! 😯
Some of those older videos are shot with a very wide angle lens Michel. The newer videos have a better perspective.
@@doncoffey5820 I did notice that, yes. But still, it looks very impressing! (While normally, i don't particularly prefer the wide angle lens Cabviews, due to the distortion at closer ranges)
But reading between the lines: There are faster accelerating diesels over there in the UK, aren't there? ^^
Yes Michel. When the 185s were new 12 years ago they were the fastest things around but there are several of the newer ones that are faster now.
@@doncoffey5820 That's amazing!!
As a dieseltrain enthusiast, UK's complete collections of various dieseltrains never ceases to amaze me. Especially since over here (In the Netherlands) our national railway (NS) decommissioned it's last dmu two years ago. Now only the smaller railway companies have a few of them left, combining to a total of mainly just two remaining classes of dmu's. On these classes, a top speed of 140 km/h (about 88m/h) can be considered really fast for a diesel! Seeing your regular commuter trains sometimes doing a 100m/h, honestly is mindblowing!
Why edit the sound at all, surely the sound of the aws and the warning horn is all part of the journey, makes the driver look like he’s not observing the crossing warnings!.
Because the person that supplied the footage asked me to. I made it worse because it was one of my early attempts at editing!
Not a lot of sharp curves? Was this track relaid?
The track has been realigned over the years but I imagine it roughly follows the original route.
Are you getting trained to operate the new rolling stock?
To begin with, new traction will be route specific. If I don’t retire in the meantime, I will probably sign 802s.
The 125mph capable bi-modes? Sounds like a lot of fun!
Dont look too closely at the sleepers on the tracks - the shutter speed creates some trippy strobe effects!
yeah at speed they look like they are moving away from train if you watch one sleeper
Good Video but it would have been a great video if you'd only cleaned the windscreen. Like so many other videos of this type Yuk.
That is one of the few videos that I didn’t film. If you check the ones I did film, you’ll see I go to great lengths to keep the glass clean.
I do not understand the reasoning from 45:41to 45:52. Why not two tracks?
Its called a Single Lead Junction and its done for various reasons. The bridge over the river was very old and weak so they put this junction in to stop two trains passing on the bridge at the same time.