I remember when they brought it to America to run IMSA Toyota & Nissan was mad. IIRC it ran at Miami took pole by a couple seconds and IMSA was like "whoa". Made them lower the scoop for the engine. It didn't really slow it down since it was basically a F1 car with fenders.
Give it the extra 100+ hp of the c11 and a driver to drive it properly and we'll see.....it's a classic dude, last of its breed be grateful to see it 🙏 driving in anger and drive it so peeps can see it are different
@@ItsMe-vg4vj bro don't shy away from the question, you said "near perfect", I'm curious now and I don't wanna analyze the vid frame by frame cause I got things to do.
25 year old sportscar driven by an amateur slower than state of the art F1car driven by world champ shocker…… In their day these would have made the F1 grid despite weighing 50% more than an F1 car.
In 1991, Senna's pole was 1:47:811, which the Group C cars wouldn't get close to, and if they were more than 5.5 seconds off they'd not qualify. It'd get worse in 1992 as the F1 cars now had Automated Gearboxes and Active Suspension, there's no comparison then. You might make an argument in 1995 as they tried to slow the cars down but Group C didn't exist anymore thanks to Papa Bernie
@@afoxwithahat7846 these things were a lot quicker in their day. Spa was a bit quicker too. Not that they didn't trail f1 care by a fair margin but this was not even close to being a full push lap.
@@kantina4765 It may not have been a full push lap. But we can guess how much it would improve. Power was about the same, 620-680 hp for F1 and Group C cars in 1988. 575kg for F1 and 800kg for group C. They do have the benefit of covered wheels which would allow them to reach and surpass 400km/h. But they would still suffer massively due to lack of investment/development. F1 cars had a lower center of mass, bigger tires, much nore freedom on experimental aerodynamic devices, less limit on downforce, plus bigger interest by the most skilled drivers. Senna and Schumacher drove at Lemans, but it wasn't really it for them. (Sure it's easier today to see how great of a series Group C was, but anyway) In the era of computer aids that would follow, 1989-1993, the top cars were impossibly fast for anything to compete. I recall there was a season you'd press the break on the limit and hold a button, the computer would then time the downshifts to increase brake performance, that was on one of the top teams, my guess would be Williams.
They've got the gear ratios set really short on this run, and probably have the turbo boost down to protect the engine as well. In true qualifying trim I'm sure the car could top 320k, but it's only doing 280 here.
@@1997jankuschef The car was ~500+ rpm away from redline in top gear at the braking zone at the end of the straight after slipstreaming. The gearing was perfect. For your argument to make ANY sort of sense he would need to be bouncing off the redline at the end of the straight for at least a couple of seconds.
I think we (the human race) should all apologise to you for this video of a car decades older not achieving the same lap time as the 919 EVO. Perhaps a crowdfunding campaign to compensate you for your valuable time lost would be in order. I would personally like to offer you a testicle massage as tribute. Oh what an unholy crime you have had to endure watching this lap all the way to Eau Rouge.
You know this is a video from the past right? I'm going to define this word for you because I have a feeling it's going to help! The past is defined as something that happened previously, "gone by in time and no longer existing." So in this case, that's the year 1991 or there abouts, which was about 32 years ago. I have a feeling you've never been in a sports car and if you saw this in person it would blow your mind.
There's a XJR14 for sale currently. It was made using all the spares from the originals and comes with all the bodywork forms so new panels can be made. Love seeing classics racing and going for it rather than sitting in private collections.
c'est loin des F1 qui passent le raidillon sans lacher et arrivent à plus de 320 en bout des 2 lignes droites..... mais c'est mieux que les 25h de spa en dedeuche.
I could listen to this for at least an hour.
Yea, it is incredible
@@A-BYTE94 it could just be me, but it almost sounds like a V12 from the inside
@@robcrockerracing5020 When it reaches high revs, especially
@@robcrockerracing5020it really does if you watch some old 90s Ferrari f1 onboards which is funny because this is a v8 😂
Even 24hr
This thing is OUTRAGEOUS. Driver is one with machine for sure in this video. What a ride.
group c cars like this back in 1991 were INSANE!!!!!
I had the privilege to build the chassis for these beasts back in the early 90’s
Great days working for TWR astec.
I remember when they brought it to America to run IMSA Toyota & Nissan was mad. IIRC it ran at Miami took pole by a couple seconds and IMSA was like "whoa". Made them lower the scoop for the engine. It didn't really slow it down since it was basically a F1 car with fenders.
It was very fast, but then Peugeot came and it was even faster.
Not just any F1 car with fenders. An F1 car by Ross Brawn - and we know what he went on to do later in his career.
You also forgot to mention that was also without any development throughout 1992, so it was essentially an outdated car too
Wheel archers
The wonderful noise !! 🤤🤤
Awesome looking and sounding machine.
Heh, I was there that year, that thing sounds absolutely amazing.
the Formula 1 engine always sounds amazing.
Except nowadays
the bubble-ish aspect of the cockpit really gives a futuristic vibe
A real race car driver using one hand to shift
Fantastic driving! Great line! You know your stuff!!
Not really
Looks glued to the road
What a beautiful machine😍🤤
Wow... Wow... Wow... Just wonderful
The engine in the original XJR 14 was Ford's Formula 1 HB V8 engine that was detuned for endurance racing
How is this 5 seconds slower than the Sauber C11?
@@clairethomas5129 eau rouge flat in one of those must have been absolutely ridiculous, if his claim was true
Give it the extra 100+ hp of the c11 and a driver to drive it properly and we'll see.....it's a classic dude, last of its breed be grateful to see it 🙏 driving in anger and drive it so peeps can see it are different
It’s a British car. 😂
Because of possible traction issues, Like when the car shook near the start of him driving, That was him losing traction.
It's clearly not pushing that much.
Cheer !!! Great race!!! But why this wiper in the middle of the cockpit? I find that this affects the good visibility of the circuit…
Eargasm, 100%
Very skilled driver
Why are the front wheels chattering?
Near perfect setup, eating up the course. Nice!
Why near
@@gabrielechimento8719 ask the driver.
@@ItsMe-vg4vj bro don't shy away from the question, you said "near perfect", I'm curious now and I don't wanna analyze the vid frame by frame cause I got things to do.
@@gabrielechimento8719 then dont come at me like that bozo. Figure it the hell out instead of someone having to tell you.
@@ItsMe-vg4vj man you really resorted to insults just cause you can't back up the words you say. You really are a joke.
Group C is a blessing.
No heel-toe needed for downshift, the car's a sticky rat!!! Anyone can drive this rocket and that's what made the XJR-14 awesome
What a soundtrack.
bro's pulling upwards of 2g's🛐🛐🥵
Very solid lap.
Redline 11 1/2 ?or it goes higher?
Engine was not in full power mode even so really nice
Is this car has almost same sound as F1 1988
2 feet 10 inches?
Race cars were infinitely cooler back then
The doubel lefthander with 195kph. Hanilton do it on the monster benz 295kph. 2020
You are the best driver of our planet!
Incroyable
12000 RPM???
Sounds like a sport bike
2016? camera looks like it's from 1986
good sound
カムに乗って（カムのオーバーラップ）パワーバンドのった時の音が最高！
A few small mistakes. There is at least another second in it.
Wow!
that was cool:)
In 2016, Nico Rosberg's pole lap at Spa was 1:46:744, so, hey...
25 year old sportscar driven by an amateur slower than state of the art F1car driven by world champ shocker……
In their day these would have made the F1 grid despite weighing 50% more than an F1 car.
In 1991, Senna's pole was 1:47:811, which the Group C cars wouldn't get close to, and if they were more than 5.5 seconds off they'd not qualify.
It'd get worse in 1992 as the F1 cars now had Automated Gearboxes and Active Suspension, there's no comparison then.
You might make an argument in 1995 as they tried to slow the cars down but Group C didn't exist anymore thanks to Papa Bernie
@@afoxwithahat7846 these things were a lot quicker in their day. Spa was a bit quicker too. Not that they didn't trail f1 care by a fair margin but this was not even close to being a full push lap.
@@kantina4765 It may not have been a full push lap. But we can guess how much it would improve.
Power was about the same, 620-680 hp for F1 and Group C cars in 1988.
575kg for F1 and 800kg for group C.
They do have the benefit of covered wheels which would allow them to reach and surpass 400km/h. But they would still suffer massively due to lack of investment/development.
F1 cars had a lower center of mass, bigger tires, much nore freedom on experimental aerodynamic devices, less limit on downforce, plus bigger interest by the most skilled drivers.
Senna and Schumacher drove at Lemans, but it wasn't really it for them. (Sure it's easier today to see how great of a series Group C was, but anyway)
In the era of computer aids that would follow, 1989-1993, the top cars were impossibly fast for anything to compete.
I recall there was a season you'd press the break on the limit and hold a button, the computer would then time the downshifts to increase brake performance, that was on one of the top teams, my guess would be Williams.
Insano .. insano ..
That downforce though...
Jaaaaaag!
Discord Ping at 0:53
I Heard it
👍👍
I know this car is very expensive but come on he should push at least a little more. Also a weird setup on it.
he did not take radillon flat out - i am disappointed
i have seen at assetto corsa in a gt3 Ferrari do a 2:16 and that's impressive
They've got the gear ratios set really short on this run, and probably have the turbo boost down to protect the engine as well. In true qualifying trim I'm sure the car could top 320k, but it's only doing 280 here.
@@1997jankuschef this car is not turbocharged, it’s a 3.5L Cosworth HB F1 engine
@@1997jankuschef The car was ~500+ rpm away from redline in top gear at the braking zone at the end of the straight after slipstreaming. The gearing was perfect. For your argument to make ANY sort of sense he would need to be bouncing off the redline at the end of the straight for at least a couple of seconds.
@@BoredLikeHelI Not if they opened up the final but tightened everything up underneath it, no? Give me a better reason
@@1997jankuschef read his comment, then mine. He was talking about the short gearing limiting top speed, it didnt whatsoever.
not as fast top speed as i would have thought
But their windshield wiper technology sucks ass.
That one bus driver
After seeing the 919 EVO in Spa, this seems rather sub par... stopped watching just as it exited Raidillon.
I think we (the human race) should all apologise to you for this video of a car decades older not achieving the same lap time as the 919 EVO. Perhaps a crowdfunding campaign to compensate you for your valuable time lost would be in order. I would personally like to offer you a testicle massage as tribute. Oh what an unholy crime you have had to endure watching this lap all the way to Eau Rouge.
Imagine that, a 30 year old racecar being much slower than a state of the art, unrestricted prototype with massive downforce and probably 400hp more 🤡
You know this is a video from the past right? I'm going to define this word for you because I have a feeling it's going to help! The past is defined as something that happened previously, "gone by in time and no longer existing." So in this case, that's the year 1991 or there abouts, which was about 32 years ago. I have a feeling you've never been in a sports car and if you saw this in person it would blow your mind.
That car has tonnes of understeer, no doubt it's there intentionally to stop the driver risking crashing such a legendary race car.
Looks like they have a very loaded rear wing, by the top speed.
There's a XJR14 for sale currently. It was made using all the spares from the originals and comes with all the bodywork forms so new panels can be made. Love seeing classics racing and going for it rather than sitting in private collections.
could have been pushing well over 300kmh on the straights but yea understeer slow it way down
@@garretfisher2217understeer doesn't slow the car on the straights
Awesome
c'est loin des F1 qui passent le raidillon sans lacher et arrivent à plus de 320 en bout des 2 lignes droites.....
mais c'est mieux que les 25h de spa en dedeuche.
wtf, only a porsche 911 can reach 2:13
Ja ab 4000 Umdrehungen kommt Freude auf