Use a heavy wall tube with a solid bar loosely inside it. Weld blanks on the tube and secure this across the door. When a grinder hits the inner bar it will spin, jump and break the cutting disc.
Here we go When in garage aprillia shiver has an factory fitted immobiliser with flashing light fitted also four digit key code required when bike first switched on Ground anchor cemented flush with floor, chained from this with chain which has high tensile links which has links of 2 inches per link Abus insurance padlock to secure Abu’s disc lock rear D shackle front wheel Garage alarmed using house alarm which texts me if set off, with two motion detectors and side door reed switch Garage up and over main door padlocked at both sides and centre and mech disabled with locking device all inside Side door has bar that can be lowered once door is closed from a pulley system from a secret cable from around the garage so the door would be difficult to force Side door locked and padlocked And finally a baby monitor switched on permanently so I can hear the fuckers and stop them before they get to the bike Over the top YES Takes me a while to get out for a ride and to put away Have I ever had a bike stolen NO Do insurance companies give a fuck that I take all these precautions and give me a discount DO THEY FUCK feel free to take the piss 😜 it’s just the engineering OCD I have
Got to love Dads...they are super heroes at that age...it was cool to see you smiling about your dad...your admiration for him showed through bigtime...
matt would probably say but he mentioned it in a live stream once that when his dad first got a gsxr1000 (may be getting the bike wrong) he parked it in their front room behind the sofa for a week or so until he got a fuckoff huge lock sorted in the garage
My garage is remote from my house so I've made sure my security is good, apart from decent locks on the doors theres an "alarm mine" on the door that blows a shotgun blank when it trips (loud and scary), I've also rigged up a paintball smoke grenade on a trip wire that will fill the garage with red smoke (also covering the thieving bastards), an Almax immobiliser 4 chain with their ground anchor epoxied into the floor and an alarm that phones my mobile and house phone if it gets triggered. If they can manage to get in they'll shit themselves thinking someone's shooting at them, then won't be able to see for smoke, they'll have to angle grind through 19mm toughened chain twice to remove it, alarm blaring and it's phoned me in the meantime. There's only 1 way in and out of the garage site that's easy to block off with a car so they won't be getting away
A friend was building a shed, so he was at the stage of pouring a concrete floor, so taking advantage of that; he got some drain pipe (you could use metal piping) and made a U shape with it, poured the concrete floor in so that the open ends of the pipe were slightly above the concrete, he could then run a thick sod off chain through this pipe, you would then have to grind through the chain, or jack hammer out the concrete to steal the bike.
All great suggestions. Best thing for me on top of the ground anchor is a cheap wireless Chinese doorbell. Put the sensor in the garage, if door bell goes off I get up and go out.
don't take it in to london. get something with a single sided swing arm and underseat exhaust, then work out how to conveniently remove the wheel and carry it around with you. false wall in the shed, like how he hides in the film Inside Man. park really close to cctv stuff. rig up the shed with some of the "defence mechanisms" in home alone
personally for a ground anchor, I use 50mm solvent weld waste pipe made into a u shape and concreted in, Its cheap and there is no device to attack other than the chain.
best theft prevention is to have an ugly unpopular bike. Anchor with large hardened chain off the ground preferably and through the frame if possible, a decent brake disc lock on rear and a locking cover are what I always hear recommended. Since steering locks are reasonably easy for 1 person to snap from the videos ive seen I dont know why manufacturers dont atleast set us up with something beefier.
Matt, you are spot on, you cant really make your bike !00% safe, all you can do is make it as difficult as possible for the thief, and hope they cant be arsed to break all your security devices. One thing I will say that may help is after you have fitted all the locks and chains you can get on the thing is fit a tracker, you dont need to spend a fortune, Vodafone do one that literally plugs into the OBD plug under the seat (or where ever yours may be) its literally plug and play. Sends a message to your phone, when its moving, how fast etc. I think they are currently around £80 and available from most Vodafone shops.
You can have all the devices in the world but if they really want it they'll take it. Unless you and your two mates Smith and Wesson happen to catch them in the act...
FWIW a mate of mine used to have a huge stock of IT hardware kept in his house. One of the anti-theft systems was a "smoke cloak" it might sound a bit daft but if people are stumbling through a thick fog in your garage or whatever they will be too disorientated to steal anything. It is near impossible to stop skilled thieves taking stuff, but trackers help.
Used a land anchor on my VN1500 , some thieving toe rag came along one night . Woke up next morning the bike was still there but the land anchor was long gone
My recommendation involves 3 points. 1. Alarm as loud as funk, when it rounds up the whole neighborhood, someone will notice. Or the thives get frightened away. 2. GPS tracking that works. When they do take it make it as accurate to locate as possible. 3. Physical locks, bars etc. Make it difficult to move. First 2 work the best. :-)
Baby monitor... Just cover any power LED on the sender unit (or hide the sender unit somewhere) so you can hear the commotion going on and thus catch them at it, thus deterring them... Battery powered ones can be supplied with recheargable battery linked to solar panel on roof of shed/garage....
Trackers seem to be a good option so long as you can find a way to hide the thing sufficiently well to give you half a chance of fiding it. Seems like the form these days is to steal the thing and park it in a random street for a couple of days to see if anyone comes to collect it. If not, take it to the chop shop to strip for parts!
I've also got a wireless motion detection door bell. Leave pir bit in the garage and the other bell bit at the side of my bed. At least I know if anyone is in my garage at night and only about £1
Steel box bolted to the floor, you park your bike with the rear wheel inside it and a bar goes through the rear wheel which is then locked with a shrouded lock in a box welded to the side of the main box. You make the box long enough so they can't get to the rear wheel spindle to undo it.
First rule is not 'to let them know what's in the garage.Don't park the bike on the drive & ALWAYS check if you're being followed when you turn into your street.If you think your'e being followed keep on riding until you're sure it's safe .I've only knowingly had one attempted bike theft,years ago ,I was living in a ground floor flat & the bike was parked outside so it was easy pickings... I think a ground anchor & F OFF chain are the most secure locking method,plus an alarm or strobe lights to cause a scene.
Mark Foster . Same here. We always warm bikes up in back garden, out of sight. Then never leave bikes on drive. Straight home and into back garden. Good tips. 🖒
This is key. Always assure no one is following. I always stop after turning in my street and if a car is behind me and it's not obviously my neighbour, I turn around and go away for another 10 minutes. I had one bastard follow me once and he stopped as soon as I stopped. As I got near him he hid his face. Took a photo of the plate... Another one, don't wash your bike in your driveway or leave the garage door open showing the bikes, EVER. Annoying, I know (especially after buying a Karcher). The garage bar is possibly the best deterrent. Mine can only be opened from the inside and the door is jammed too.
These are all good ideas, but in my mind preventing bike theft is more about deterrent than prevention. If they want to take your bike bad enough, they'll take it, no matter what preventions u deploy. The trick is making people not want to take my bike. If you know that stealing that bike might cost you your life, you're less likely to have a go at it. We are talking about home bike theft, not out n about bike theft, but generally, if a person gets shot trying to steal a motorcycle, they probably won't tryn steal motorcycles any more. That being said, my preferred deterrent is a 12ga, 3" Magnum .00 Buck. That's fifteen .36cal pellets at about 1100fps. If that ain't handy a .45 ACP works real nice. U said something about no less than 10mm, and I do agree, but I'm here to tell ya that a 9mm will work in a pinch...
I've got a tracker on my bike so if it does go missing I'll have enough time to try and get it back if it doesn't get burnt out in a field somewhere. Other than that I have 2 screamer disc locks and a big Oxford chain!
There's no worse feeling than going to the garage to see the doors ajar and a empty space where my Kawasaki was, and empty spaces where my tool cabinets were. Cheeky bastards had used my tools to bypass all the security and then shoved them in the back of the van as well. Still 6 weeks later plod contacted me to say they had recovered the bike, welll actually just the frame and crankcases. Even CCTV didn't deter them, didn't help to identify the bastards neither.
Hey Matt, it's worth mentioning - those cheap chinese GPS trackers. Small, hooked to a battery, has accelerometer so even slightest movement of the bike triggers it and sends an SMS. Then you can track it if you want/need. Works ok and has me sleeping peacefully for some 20 euro. And a big chain and a mean padlock as well hehe, make it not worth their time/too much hassle. GPS thingey is good for letting you know that someone is moving the bike so you can check what's going on in time.
mmdirtyworkz imagine you put a stiker telling that you have the traker and that it will warn you if the bike moves. I dont know if its a very good idea or very bad
There has been reports issued by the police in London that they cut the lcok with an angle grinder (like the videos on youtube) then move the bike to a location where they disconnect the battery. Then move the bike to another location, without tracking. The other thing is that you have to be awake or close to the bike to get the message.
One I have uses a SIM card so it texts you, distance is not a problem. You have to be aware/awake when the SMS arrives though and good thing is that the accelerometer gets triggered by a slightest movement/swing. Among other functions it has one that sends an SMS in case GPS signal is lost and it gives the location where it had it last time. @ crazy portugese I would never have that sticker, it gives away the secret :) No sticker - thieves have no clue what I have on the bike and as soon as they even lean on it I get the SMS.
The cheap GPS trackers often have their own Lithium battery that is charged from the bike's battery. This can be a problem if the bike is only ridden occasionally - both batteries can go flat. A GPS tracker with no power is not much use. OTOH, setting up a trickle charger with a socket permanently fixed to the bike battery makes sure you don't get a flat battery. ..or, fork out £100 per year for professionally fitted tracker with 24h online monitoring.
Friend of mine had a disc lock and a foldable metal bar kind one. They found melted metal so proably they melted that metal folded thingy and simply lifted the front to get it in a van. My suggestion if you use a disk lock, use it on your back wheel. Harder to remove and heavier to lift.
When I was searching my area for hardware on a site similar to eBay, I came across some one selling a thick I-beam which could be mounted to the wall with custom hinges, it was at least 2cm thick steel and the beam was +-20cm high. It could be locked with a padlock like the Abus Granit 37/80, where the shackle is not visible. In his garage it was mounted at a height of 70cm. This was like a garage you've got, only with one sliding door at the front.
mole scarers with rocksalt loaded 12 gauge shells are pretty effective from what i have heard. the trigger cable hidden away till the bike moves or a tripwire inside the door
What about a hidden fishing line/wire attached to the bike or the garage door or something they need to move and threaded through the house using trunking/conduit to your bedroom where it can ring a bell or pull your finger. And put vinegar soaked stanley blades around various parts of the bike they're like you going to touch. under the handles or brake levers or acute fairing angles (grab points).
Get boron hardened steel shanks on your padlocks, they are almost uncuttable with anything but an angle grinder. The Abloy PL330 are a good version, unpickable as well.
I put my dirt bike in the basement in the winter. takes 2 or 3 people to get it up the stairs. always keep the door locked. I do that though because I live in canada and can't spend the money for a heated shop
As for a lock. You need something . That will lock from the cross piece of the swing arm to the back wheel. Where you can get only your hand in to unlock. Ignition barrel's are to open to attack.
I use to keep my bike out side so a big disk lock on the front wheel as well as a big chain and lock wraped round front wheel and thought the cover and a 2rd big lock round the rear wheel on to anker bolted to a slab. Keeping the bike out of sight when its not being used helps. If you get a huge chain you can put one end in to concrete.
how about the solar (or mains if you want) powered LED security floodlights over the access to the garage/shed so anyone approaching is illuminated ----- hopefully they'll be deterred from trying.
oh also smoke bomb alarms are good, if the garage is full of thick purple smoke there's no way you can see to use your tools to steal the bike from its anchor points chains or disc lock.
If you have to park on the street - I had an after market clutch lever that was really easy to remove - put the bike in gear, take the lever off and the bike would have to be carried away. If you can easily remove the ECU then take it with you when you leave the bike parked up. Disc locks (or better still, good quality padlocks), on both discs fixed so the bike can't move back or forward and positioned so it would be difficult to get an angle grinder at them - especially on the rear between the brake and swing arm.
Paul J Jack. No clutch lever the ECU won't allow the bike to be started in my case (Magura on a KTM 690). It's a question of doing as many easy things you can to slow the scum down or make them give up altogether.
The Workshop. I guess it may depend on how easy it is to get to your ECU (crap in the way etc.), but as long as you're careful I can't see any reason why you should damage the connectors. Some people are ham fisted though.
can still remember the look on my mates face when he knocked on the door to my apartment a few minuets after he had just left. a few days earlier he had purchased a new yamaha rd 400 red, just like mine that had been a victim of repossession a few days earlier. yep, she was gone. took him months to get a new one from his insurance.
The 2 feet tall horizontal bar at ground level is a superb idea in addition to the usual garage lock and ground anchor. Do you know if there are any manufacturers for this type of solution? I never considered the possibility of making it hard to physically move the bike out once normal security is breached so thank you. Also the rear door of the garage is a weak point as most of the effort is spent securing the front.
This video gave me an idea, Matt. You have good CAD drawing skills, I have a concept that could be easily patented. Have a look at what Yamaha are doing with the new T-Max to prevent theft. So much more would be easily possible.
I have ground anchor & door bar & it has done job over years .But some scrats did attempt to take bike did not succeed but pisses you off the damage they do in process.
They took mine on Weds. I was literally around the corner, unloading other bikes. Sometimes security doesn't matter, they're opportunistic, feral bastards. Chains - Almax or Pragmasis, they do 19mm or 22mm. As you mentioned, Bosnian Bill for lock reviews, also Lockpicking Lawyer.
as mark said make it as hard as you can...not too sure if this will work but why not put a baby monitor in the shed too so you can be alerted by maybe an alarmed disc lock.
I've found dicuraging works petty well, like motion sensor light infornt of the garage so anyone walking by it is nice and visible. Also if they get away with your bike you can hide proof it's yours somewhere, like a small note with your name on it etc and gps tracking, basically trying to make it as easy as possible to get back later.
I did loose a trial bike about 6 ish years back and about 2 grands worth of tools, Now I use 3 padlocks on the gates, 2 on the sheds, alarm mines/ poachers traps with 12 bore black powder blanks with fishing line across points of entry to my garden and sheds.... I have set them off accidentally myself when forgetting to unset them before opening sheds and it's like getting a huge shock right trough ya body, more than just being made to jump...... and they are loud as fook, they would wake every neighbour and their/my dogs up, My Jack Russel is an eager little shite, but my Am bull hates anything in her garden that's not invited in by me or mine..... She will do a full circuit of the garden snorking like a pig if any of my family go out there and does the same as we come in, Very protective dogs, but also very loving towards her pack... Answers to the name of Lard arse. :) It took me about 1/4 of an hour to convince her that the hedge hog in next doors garden was not a threat about a week ago, she could hear that thing sniffing about from indoors at about 30 meters. Just stepping in one of her turds would be enough to put any thief off, smelliest dogs on the planet...
The main point on 'security' is to make stealing any object such a ball ache that it is easier to go elsewhere. All you suggestions are valid Matt, it's down to the individual to think through their unique issues and put in place a solution. One thing that is an issue is modern social attitudes to communal living. Not many people 'look out for each' other and fewer are willing to intervene or question an unusual event or occurrence such as 'strangers or suspicious activity' in their neighbourhood. (despite what you would think regards terrorism etc) If you live in a remote area, with some land etc get a BFD and take some efforts regards security otherwise you're going to get a nasty surprise.. (BFD = Big Fucking Dog). The biggest issue for all criminal activity is 'time'...the longer they are delayed (depending on the circumstances) the less likely they are to try to steal something. Deny them the opportunity..
Bloody had a go at my CBF125 - bent the handle bars which were already slightly bent. Disc lock not even touched. Probably tried and the bars gave way. Rode that to my garage and cancelled the service which was due the next day. I hate thieves.
As far as angle grinders go, couldn't you make a lock with an extremely hard steel, but it's encased in a softer material like lead or aluminum that would gum up a cutting disk or ruin the grinder?
What i do.... 1. Agreed. Ground anchor. 2. Chain the bike (through the frame or swing arm) - ive heard by chinese whispers that some thieves will take a spare wheel with them (if the bike is known to be chained up through the wheel. 3. I use a Roadlok (www.roadlok.com) on the front. 4. Tracker. (hide it in the airbox). My mate recovered his MX bike that way with 5 mates (no police called) went round the guys house, asked for the bike back, got the reply "i dont know what....." which is as far as he got before one was delivered square into the face. Bike was in the garage. Generic ebay tracker with a data sim (i use giff gaff) 5. Decent house alarm. In the garage ive got whats called a "sound bomb" which is illegal to be used externally its that loud. Apparently the human instinct is to just simply "get away" as fast as you can...if you try to say within in the vicinity of it - youll throw up...its that loud. Those are my suggestions...my only devils advocate reply is if, you put locks and bars and allsorts all over the front...its like youve got something to hide so a red rag to a bull as its were...but, having said that if youve got no choice then youve got no choice...
Use your steering lock every time you get off the bike, including at home in the garage. The amount of bikes I see parked up without the lock on is crazy. It won't stop three people pulling up in a transit van and lifting it in, but it will at the very least deter a casual thief from wheeling it off.
Although a great idea and a must for keeping your shit safe, I feel that if you put loads of 'outside' security on your shed/garage it screams to the thieving pond scum that there is something in there worth lifting, but on the other hand you need to protect your stuff as best you possibly can. My shed and garage are linked to the house alarm and I have a CCTV baby monitor in there too as well as the usual ground anchors, chains, locks etc.
I live in one of the highest crime nations in the world.(south Africa) Theft is common place here. Best defense against thieves is being cunning yourself. Hidden GPS tracker inside the bike frame is best. Also making the access point very noisy helps a lot. Gravel pathways, squeaky door hinges. The tracker will also give you the direction /last place the bike was at giving you a clue whom it may be. But also as Matt says, PHYSICAL access is number one. Being cunning is how you recover the bike and punch the fuk heads in the nose., then call cops
I have a wireless alarm system on the house and garage, motion sensing night vision camera that sends messages and email and uploads video to the net, 2 mammoth chain/locks wrapped around the rear wheels of both bikes and hooked through my bike trailer and 2 disc locks. Then there’s all the shit that accumulated in the garage between the bikes and the door. Next project is scaffold bars across the door. I also have a baseball bat and hockey stick in the bedroom, cos I like sport obviously 😀 overkill ?
In addition to everything you said i suggest putting a baby monitor in your garage/shed so u will be alerted even b4 the twats start cutting or enything
I used to live in Manchester. over 15 yrs I've had 6 bikes stolen. only good bike thief is a dead one. Ground anchors, big fkn chains with boron in it & an alarm in the garage with some kind of motion detection on the door is my advice. Police are a waste of time. when I called I got "what do you expect us to do about it?" VIVA GMP
I hide gps tracker on my bikes and in my car etc etc. but I don't tell anyone I'd rather they nick it so I can find them! Also tell them it's there and they'll just remove it themselves!
The Workshop I've got a cheapo tracker, most don't but this one has a back up battery and texts you if they move the bike or cut the battery cable . Yes you do need to wake up when you get the text message through though.
The worst part about the GPS trackers is, they can't receive/transmit a message, when you put them into "Faraday cage", it will shield the electromagnetic signal going in/out. The standard van with fine steel mesh or steel plates in windows will simply do the trick. Considering you are stealing a bike, how else you want to transport it, than in the van....such van. Yes, the GPS tracker or GSM alarm can ring you at the moment someone touches your bike, but as soon as they load it in the van, you are toasted and have no idea where to look for your bike. Technically the bike can be shielded like that until parted, GPS tracker located and disabled.
Trackers are a waste of money they only tell you after the event of a theft and only if they have clear view of satellites for position and mobile reception for texting. The other problem is the lack of Police resources means they usually will not chase up on stolen vehicles even with trackers.
There is a guy on here (youtube) called the lock picking laywer and he shows how easy it is to get past the locks we use every day thinking they'll be safe! I have 2 pitbulls (they do more than make noise) and hide gps trackers on my toys I live in an area where this isn't a problem but if I did I would also hide cctv recording 24/7! In my experience 20 quid padlocks can be removed with a medium strength hit from a claw hammer! So make sure they are hidden/ protected! The harder you make it for them the more likely they are to go somewhere else!
Get a titanium pad lock. It takes a diamond grinder 45mins to grind through it. I have 2. They cost me $75. You can get titanium chains also. Those are spendy though.
I have a concrete shed that I keep my bike in that you have to move the wheelie bins to get to which are wedged in so make a racket to move(trust me I do it every morning) there's also the normal locks/security on the bike. I also sleep 10 feet above the bike with my German shepherd cross malumute who as far as there concerned is a savage dog(despite that fact that she's more likely to lick them that bite them)
Eyup,Northern.One way of looking at your security,is to pretend youve lost your keys and work out how you would gain entry.Bearing in mind that any scrotes wanting to do so wouldnt worry about damage!
Digger. If your garage has power, get an old baby monitor, plug the kid end into the socket in the garage and the other into a socket in your bedroom. Now get a couple of motion detection PIR alarms, cheap ones out of Aldi or wherever, get more than one, fix these in your garage so you can turn them on and off with the key fobs.. If the alarms go off get up and disable the thief's. Achilles tendon, then take your time.
I purchased a padlock that has a siren built into it if disturbed. When unlocking it you had to keep it perfectly level or it would scream. Used proper heavy locks to secure the chain but this siren lock just dangled there waiting.
Almax chains are pretty good or budget wise get some boat chain, keep chains off the ground and secure it through the frame or part of the bike that can't really be dismantled. There's always an anchor point somewhere I used to use the bars on the drain when I parked on the street in the lovely town of Stevenage. Covers are great as well, kept mine covered with one of those covers cut for top boxes, so the breeze inflated it and it looked like a granny bike. Was working on it one day and one of my neighbors walked by and was like 'oh didn't realise that was under there..." Keep walking fella. Either I was lucky or what but no one dicked about with it.
sirico I wouldn’t advise boat chain, it’s only tempered and can be cut with a junior hacksaw. The trick is to keep the bike near the house, use a chain that cannot be bolt cropped (16mm or above) an anchor then it requires a grinder. Providing you’re prepared to stop them you should never lose a bike while your at home as a grinder will always give u time to stop the attempt. 👍
I remember practical performance car did a article back in the day on making a homemade tracker from a burner phone and sim matt maybe you should do a video on something like that mate would be a interesting little project because most tracking companies wont tell you where youre bike has gone incase you go after it which sounds shite to me so a homemade tracker would be awesome
Get the best you can get. Almax chains have Boron in them so it's really difficult to cut them. Use them at home because they're really heavy to carry. They also have an anchor called the defiant which is equally tough. 2 disc locks, one alarmed and one tough. I use the alarmed one on the rear and a bloody big one on the front. A high quality chain for when you are out but make sure there is something unmoving and solid to tie it to. Use the frame to wrap it round and make sure theres no chain on the floor. Alarm immobiliser systems are also good. Not the cheap ones please. Datatool and META make some really good ones. Alarm so people can be alerted and immobiliser so they can't just do a push start without the key. A good quality tracker also helps when it has been taken. Generally thieves leave it somewhere covert in case of a tracker. As for other things? Remove the pillion pegs so it's far harder to lift or push along. A cover will deter thieves as well. Don't get a branded one, get a generic one. And shed or garage security will help too. Baby monitor, alarms, trip wires and barge bars will add time to their theft or stop them completely. Or if you're like me, attach a live shotgun to a trip system.
I know everyone says that almax chains are too big and heavy to really carry around but surely the weight of a large chain and lock is not gonna be as heavy as having a pillion passenger. taking you put the chain in a top box or tank bag on the rear seat?
Stick to securing your shed properly and as in the video a good ground anchor like the Abus WBA 100 Granit an Almax series 3,4 or 5 chain and a 362 Abloy lock and put the chain round a difficult to remove part of the bike i.e. on the 1200GS through the rear wheel hub or around the upper part of the swing arm. If your parking it on a road whilst your out an alarmed disk lock or even two [one front and one rear] and a bike cover is also a good option. Dont spend several thousand on a bike and then skimp by buying a £50 lock and chain
More difficult and more noise they have to make the better...... Weather this is over the top but here’s a list of what I have Two disks locks one on each wheel. Oxford chain with lock about two meters this gose around front and rear wheel. Front brake lock this gose over the front leaver pulls it in and locks over the throttle. Motorcycle alarm Grind anchor with another lock that’s weved around the two meter lock. Shed alarm with cctv camera in side And four shot bolt locks on the door Trick to all this is... to slow them down as much as you can and in doing this make them have to make as much noise as possible
The plane was at service because the hours of flight where to high. The birds where on the beach and the dogs sleeping and the kids playing online. So they have to come up with something new Matt!
Thieves hate noise and cameras. First delay them with a massive chain anchored to something, then make sure an air horn grade alarm goes off right in their face and they can't shut it off, the whole neighborhood should hear it. Then a camera monitoring the outside of the shed is usually more useful than on on the inside, it can scan for shady people snooping around and get number plates off vans etc. Last line of defense a well hidden GPS tracker which you don't advertise. You can get all this for 400 quid or so if you're handy and shop around a bit on ebay and amazon etc. Money well spent if your bike's a custom job you don't want to lose.
What I do; I have a sliding door (like Matt does), with two loops bolted on the top, and I put this lock (ua-cam.com/video/YcQE0DZ1_x0/v-deo.html&frags=pl%2Cwn) through the loops. I do happen to live right behind my tiny little garage, so the lock sounding the alarm would actually wake me up at night. My garage is quite packed, so as long as I put all my stuff on steering lock, they wouldn't even be able to take 'em out. Biggest point about locking your bike somewhere outside: Put the shackle through the FRAME (or between your shock and rear subframe, anything that makes it harder to simply wrench something off) and secure it to something like a tree or a lamp post. Just the front/real wheel (or both for that matter) makes it way too easy to take the entire thing and just leaving the wheel behind. They'll get a new one. The same goes for simply putting the shackle through a wheel and leaving it unanchored. It's just a two, maybe three man job to lift a bike and load it in a van, and they'll cut the lock off elsewhere. Oh, and I also have a GPS tracker fitted to my favourite bike :P
Maybe strain your brake levers with a piece of small metal/plastic lodged between the lever and support. Small enough to conceal and hard to see. They won't be able to move your bike unless they cut your brake tubes. Just don't let anyone see u doing it.
liked your story about your Grandad, Top man! My own contact with the twat who tried to nick my GT550 was a bit of comedy to say the least! The guy rolled it off it's stand without noticing the 'U' lock through the front wheel and dropped it trapping himself under it! When I discovered him trying to pull his trapped leg out from under my beloved he pleaded with me to help him get out. My reply was to call the police in front of him on my mobile with him calling me all the names he could think of and a few I'm pretty sure he'd just made up, and then wait for the police to arrive. Which they did, about 30 minutes later. He got 3 months for this and a few other offences they'd manage to pin on him, but I never saw him return despite he's threats. He'd come from out of town just to nick vehicles and was well known to the Met and other forces.. These are mostly career criminals mostly looking for an opportunity, usually to fund a drug habit, and most visible deterrents will put them off, but like you say, nothing will stop the determined professional.
Had one of my bikes attempted to get nicked, problem was my garage was in my garden and you couldn't get out of the garden because of the drive and cars lol. Woke up to find my bike leant up against my gate
Make it as hard as possible for anyone to steal! I have a datatool alarm & immobiliser, datataged, 3 huge chains, and numerous other smaller locks on disks and chain & sprockets etc! Chances of a thief taking my bike without finding all my locks are slim!
I have always like the idea of turning your garage or shed into a virvarium. You could share it with an U.V. light some rocks and a cobra or rattle 🐍 snake. Obviously you have to be careful when you and your friends use the garage and you move your motorcycle in & out and may be keep some anti venom by the oil and wd40.
Don't put all the keys on the same key ring, or in the same draw/hook. If someone steals your keys they have your bike. For me I have disc lock with the bike key, garage door with my house keys, and key for the chain lock hidden elsewhere.
Use a heavy wall tube with a solid bar loosely inside it. Weld blanks on the tube and secure this across the door. When a grinder hits the inner bar it will spin, jump and break the cutting disc.
You could make your bike look like Delbollocks street fighter.
He could do that in less time then DellBoy needs to make the seat. But Why? Is there a ugly bike competition?
Lmfao 😁😂😅
Thu Nell, Nice Dellbollocks fan boy comment! I love it!
Call the police? they're too busy policing twitter and watching YT.
Don't keep tools that could be used to nick the bike in the same shed
Here we go
When in garage aprillia shiver has an factory fitted immobiliser with flashing light fitted also four digit key code required when bike first switched on
Ground anchor cemented flush with floor, chained from this with chain which has high tensile links which has links of 2 inches per link
Abus insurance padlock to secure
Abu’s disc lock rear
D shackle front wheel
Garage alarmed using house alarm which texts me if set off, with two motion detectors and side door reed switch
Garage up and over main door padlocked at both sides and centre and mech disabled with locking device all inside
Side door has bar that can be lowered once door is closed from a pulley system from a secret cable from around the garage so the door would be difficult to force
Side door locked and padlocked
And finally a baby monitor switched on permanently so I can hear the fuckers and stop them before they get to the bike
Over the top YES
Takes me a while to get out for a ride and to put away
Have I ever had a bike stolen NO
Do insurance companies give a fuck that I take all these precautions and give me a discount DO THEY FUCK
feel free to take the piss 😜
it’s just the engineering OCD I have
Got to love Dads...they are super heroes at that age...it was cool to see you smiling about your dad...your admiration for him showed through bigtime...
Although that was a good memory - my father is a cunt, and shouldn't have had children.
@@dirtygarageguy lol
tell the wife its art and park it in the front room
matt would probably say but he mentioned it in a live stream once that when his dad first got a gsxr1000 (may be getting the bike wrong) he parked it in their front room behind the sofa for a week or so until he got a fuckoff huge lock sorted in the garage
My garage is remote from my house so I've made sure my security is good, apart from decent locks on the doors theres an "alarm mine" on the door that blows a shotgun blank when it trips (loud and scary), I've also rigged up a paintball smoke grenade on a trip wire that will fill the garage with red smoke (also covering the thieving bastards), an Almax immobiliser 4 chain with their ground anchor epoxied into the floor and an alarm that phones my mobile and house phone if it gets triggered. If they can manage to get in they'll shit themselves thinking someone's shooting at them, then won't be able to see for smoke, they'll have to angle grind through 19mm toughened chain twice to remove it, alarm blaring and it's phoned me in the meantime.
There's only 1 way in and out of the garage site that's easy to block off with a car so they won't be getting away
I like your style Sir, very similar to mine.
What a bloody coincidence, I've just watched the Bosnian Bill video. LockPickingLawyer does great tests as well.
Pragmassis roundlock, bennets gave up angle grinding it.
A friend was building a shed, so he was at the stage of pouring a concrete floor, so taking advantage of that; he got some drain pipe (you could use metal piping) and made a U shape with it, poured the concrete floor in so that the open ends of the pipe were slightly above the concrete, he could then run a thick sod off chain through this pipe, you would then have to grind through the chain, or jack hammer out the concrete to steal the bike.
All great suggestions. Best thing for me on top of the ground anchor is a cheap wireless Chinese doorbell. Put the sensor in the garage, if door bell goes off I get up and go out.
don't take it in to london. get something with a single sided swing arm and underseat exhaust, then work out how to conveniently remove the wheel and carry it around with you. false wall in the shed, like how he hides in the film Inside Man. park really close to cctv stuff. rig up the shed with some of the "defence mechanisms" in home alone
personally for a ground anchor, I use 50mm solvent weld waste pipe made into a u shape and concreted in, Its cheap and there is no device to attack other than the chain.
CB100... my first bike..... It got me to work and back for a couple of years... Cracking little machine....
best theft prevention is to have an ugly unpopular bike.
Anchor with large hardened chain off the ground preferably and through the frame if possible, a decent brake disc lock on rear and a locking cover are what I always hear recommended.
Since steering locks are reasonably easy for 1 person to snap from the videos ive seen I dont know why manufacturers dont atleast set us up with something beefier.
In some parts of the UK they'll even steal an MZ!!
So any suzuki really! 😉
or just put a GSXR cover over it.
Lots of locks two chains front and back plus a disk lock and camera x two one in the lock up one out side and a battery Yale alarm.
Matt im really interested in anything anti theft...im you can do a few more on this subject thanks
Matt, you are spot on, you cant really make your bike !00% safe, all you can do is make it as difficult as possible for the thief, and hope they cant be arsed to break all your security devices. One thing I will say that may help is after you have fitted all the locks and chains you can get on the thing is fit a tracker, you dont need to spend a fortune, Vodafone do one that literally plugs into the OBD plug under the seat (or where ever yours may be) its literally plug and play. Sends a message to your phone, when its moving, how fast etc. I think they are currently around £80 and available from most Vodafone shops.
You can have all the devices in the world but if they really want it they'll take it. Unless you and your two mates Smith and Wesson happen to catch them in the act...
The bar solution is brilliant! it's easy to get in and out the shed when you don't need your bike, just hop over/under the barrier
Had my garage broken into,they cut off the padlock. Nothing taken though, I was quite insulted.
FWIW a mate of mine used to have a huge stock of IT hardware kept in his house. One of the anti-theft systems was a "smoke cloak" it might sound a bit daft but if people are stumbling through a thick fog in your garage or whatever they will be too disorientated to steal anything. It is near impossible to stop skilled thieves taking stuff, but trackers help.
Used a land anchor on my VN1500 , some thieving toe rag came along one night .
Woke up next morning the bike was still there but the land anchor was long gone
They took the bigger value with them I guess.
Isn't a VN1500 a land anchor? :p
My recommendation involves 3 points. 1. Alarm as loud as funk, when it rounds up the whole neighborhood, someone will notice. Or the thives get frightened away.
2. GPS tracking that works. When they do take it make it as accurate to locate as possible.
3. Physical locks, bars etc. Make it difficult to move.
First 2 work the best.
:-)
Baby monitor... Just cover any power LED on the sender unit (or hide the sender unit somewhere) so you can hear the commotion going on and thus catch them at it, thus deterring them... Battery powered ones can be supplied with recheargable battery linked to solar panel on roof of shed/garage....
Good anchors, good chains, good locks, good surveillance and a GPS Locator installed on your pride and joy :)
Trackers seem to be a good option so long as you can find a way to hide the thing sufficiently well to give you half a chance of fiding it. Seems like the form these days is to steal the thing and park it in a random street for a couple of days to see if anyone comes to collect it. If not, take it to the chop shop to strip for parts!
I've also got a wireless motion detection door bell. Leave pir bit in the garage and the other bell bit at the side of my bed. At least I know if anyone is in my garage at night and only about £1
£10 sorry
My very thoughts. You can get laser fences that trigger when broken.
Steel box bolted to the floor, you park your bike with the rear wheel inside it and a bar goes through the rear wheel which is then locked with a shrouded lock in a box welded to the side of the main box. You make the box long enough so they can't get to the rear wheel spindle to undo it.
First rule is not 'to let them know what's in the garage.Don't park the bike on the drive & ALWAYS check if you're being followed when you turn into your street.If you think your'e being followed keep on riding until you're sure it's safe .I've only knowingly had one attempted bike theft,years ago ,I was living in a ground floor flat & the bike was parked outside so it was easy pickings... I think a ground anchor & F OFF chain are the most secure locking method,plus an alarm or strobe lights to cause a scene.
Mark Foster . Same here. We always warm bikes up in back garden, out of sight. Then never leave bikes on drive. Straight home and into back garden. Good tips. 🖒
This is key. Always assure no one is following. I always stop after turning in my street and if a car is behind me and it's not obviously my neighbour, I turn around and go away for another 10 minutes. I had one bastard follow me once and he stopped as soon as I stopped. As I got near him he hid his face. Took a photo of the plate... Another one, don't wash your bike in your driveway or leave the garage door open showing the bikes, EVER. Annoying, I know (especially after buying a Karcher). The garage bar is possibly the best deterrent. Mine can only be opened from the inside and the door is jammed too.
These are all good ideas, but in my mind preventing bike theft is more about deterrent than prevention. If they want to take your bike bad enough, they'll take it, no matter what preventions u deploy. The trick is making people not want to take my bike. If you know that stealing that bike might cost you your life, you're less likely to have a go at it. We are talking about home bike theft, not out n about bike theft, but generally, if a person gets shot trying to steal a motorcycle, they probably won't tryn steal motorcycles any more. That being said, my preferred deterrent is a 12ga, 3" Magnum .00 Buck. That's fifteen .36cal pellets at about 1100fps. If that ain't handy a .45 ACP works real nice. U said something about no less than 10mm, and I do agree, but I'm here to tell ya that a 9mm will work in a pinch...
I've got a tracker on my bike so if it does go missing I'll have enough time to try and get it back if it doesn't get burnt out in a field somewhere. Other than that I have 2 screamer disc locks and a big Oxford chain!
There's no worse feeling than going to the garage to see the doors ajar and a empty space where my Kawasaki was, and empty spaces where my tool cabinets were. Cheeky bastards had used my tools to bypass all the security and then shoved them in the back of the van as well. Still 6 weeks later plod contacted me to say they had recovered the bike, welll actually just the frame and crankcases. Even CCTV didn't deter them, didn't help to identify the bastards neither.
Hey Matt, it's worth mentioning - those cheap chinese GPS trackers. Small, hooked to a battery, has accelerometer so even slightest movement of the bike triggers it and sends an SMS. Then you can track it if you want/need. Works ok and has me sleeping peacefully for some 20 euro. And a big chain and a mean padlock as well hehe, make it not worth their time/too much hassle. GPS thingey is good for letting you know that someone is moving the bike so you can check what's going on in time.
mmdirtyworkz imagine you put a stiker telling that you have the traker and that it will warn you if the bike moves. I dont know if its a very good idea or very bad
There has been reports issued by the police in London that they cut the lcok with an angle grinder (like the videos on youtube) then move the bike to a location where they disconnect the battery. Then move the bike to another location, without tracking.
The other thing is that you have to be awake or close to the bike to get the message.
One I have uses a SIM card so it texts you, distance is not a problem. You have to be aware/awake when the SMS arrives though and good thing is that the accelerometer gets triggered by a slightest movement/swing. Among other functions it has one that sends an SMS in case GPS signal is lost and it gives the location where it had it last time.
@ crazy portugese I would never have that sticker, it gives away the secret :) No sticker - thieves have no clue what I have on the bike and as soon as they even lean on it I get the SMS.
Trackers need to have their own power source. That's fucking obvious.
The cheap GPS trackers often have their own Lithium battery that is charged from the bike's battery. This can be a problem if the bike is only ridden occasionally - both batteries can go flat. A GPS tracker with no power is not much use. OTOH, setting up a trickle charger with a socket permanently fixed to the bike battery makes sure you don't get a flat battery.
..or, fork out £100 per year for professionally fitted tracker with 24h online monitoring.
Friend of mine had a disc lock and a foldable metal bar kind one. They found melted metal so proably they melted that metal folded thingy and simply lifted the front to get it in a van. My suggestion if you use a disk lock, use it on your back wheel. Harder to remove and heavier to lift.
Hook the bike up to the mains?
I know ur joking, but I always felt booby trapping personal property should be legal.
Beach&BoardFan totally agree.
"I don't know what you're talking about officer, I was just charging the battery!"
Yea! "its an electric bike, runs on high voltage... like 200KV"
As long as you safeguard yourself and loved ones from the measures then i couldn't agree more if you have access to 415v all the better ;-)
When I was searching my area for hardware on a site similar to eBay, I came across some one selling a thick I-beam which could be mounted to the wall with custom hinges, it was at least 2cm thick steel and the beam was +-20cm high. It could be locked with a padlock like the Abus Granit 37/80, where the shackle is not visible.
In his garage it was mounted at a height of 70cm. This was like a garage you've got, only with one sliding door at the front.
mole scarers with rocksalt loaded 12 gauge shells are pretty effective from what i have heard. the trigger cable hidden away till the bike moves or a tripwire inside the door
What about a hidden fishing line/wire attached to the bike or the garage door or something they need to move and threaded through the house using trunking/conduit to your bedroom where it can ring a bell or pull your finger. And put vinegar soaked stanley blades around various parts of the bike they're like you going to touch. under the handles or brake levers or acute fairing angles (grab points).
Yep the bar is a good idea, it stopped my dad's 1200 bandit being nicked did it with a piece of scaffold pole
Get boron hardened steel shanks on your padlocks, they are almost uncuttable with anything but an angle grinder. The Abloy PL330 are a good version, unpickable as well.
I put my dirt bike in the basement in the winter. takes 2 or 3 people to get it up the stairs. always keep the door locked. I do that though because I live in canada and can't spend the money for a heated shop
As for a lock. You need something . That will lock from the cross piece of the swing arm to the back wheel. Where you can get only your hand in to unlock. Ignition barrel's are to open to attack.
I use to keep my bike out side so a big disk lock on the front wheel as well as a big chain and lock wraped round front wheel and thought the cover and a 2rd big lock round the rear wheel on to anker bolted to a slab. Keeping the bike out of sight when its not being used helps. If you get a huge chain you can put one end in to concrete.
how about the solar (or mains if you want) powered LED security floodlights over the access to the garage/shed so anyone approaching is illuminated ----- hopefully they'll be deterred from trying.
oh also smoke bomb alarms are good, if the garage is full of thick purple smoke there's no way you can see to use your tools to steal the bike from its anchor points chains or disc lock.
If you have to park on the street - I had an after market clutch lever that was really easy to remove - put the bike in gear, take the lever off and the bike would have to be carried away. If you can easily remove the ECU then take it with you when you leave the bike parked up.
Disc locks (or better still, good quality padlocks), on both discs fixed so the bike can't move back or forward and positioned so it would be difficult to get an angle grinder at them - especially on the rear between the brake and swing arm.
Ed Wilson .....I am gonna try the clutch lever idea....Thanks....
I definately wouldn't be unplugging the ECU. If you fuck up the connectors then you're gonna be in tears
Paul J Jack. No clutch lever the ECU won't allow the bike to be started in my case (Magura on a KTM 690). It's a question of doing as many easy things you can to slow the scum down or make them give up altogether.
The Workshop. I guess it may depend on how easy it is to get to your ECU (crap in the way etc.), but as long as you're careful I can't see any reason why you should damage the connectors. Some people are ham fisted though.
can still remember the look on my mates face when he knocked on the door to my apartment a few minuets after he had just left. a few days earlier he had purchased a new yamaha rd 400 red, just like mine that had been a victim of repossession a few days earlier. yep, she was gone. took him months to get a new one from his insurance.
The 2 feet tall horizontal bar at ground level is a superb idea in addition to the usual garage lock and ground anchor. Do you know if there are any manufacturers for this type of solution? I never considered the possibility of making it hard to physically move the bike out once normal security is breached so thank you. Also the rear door of the garage is a weak point as most of the effort is spent securing the front.
This video gave me an idea, Matt. You have good CAD drawing skills, I have a concept that could be easily patented. Have a look at what Yamaha are doing with the new T-Max to prevent theft. So much more would be easily possible.
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I have ground anchor & door bar & it has done job over years .But some scrats did attempt to take bike did not succeed but pisses you off the damage they do in process.
Tripple Hazard. Makes u want to just hide a gps in the frame.(which is a lot of work on almost all bikes)
They took mine on Weds. I was literally around the corner, unloading other bikes. Sometimes security doesn't matter, they're opportunistic, feral bastards.
Chains - Almax or Pragmasis, they do 19mm or 22mm. As you mentioned, Bosnian Bill for lock reviews, also Lockpicking Lawyer.
as mark said make it as hard as you can...not too sure if this will work but why not put a baby monitor in the shed too so you can be alerted by maybe an alarmed disc lock.
The best thing I found was have a shed of a bike and park next to Nice bikes.
I've found dicuraging works petty well, like motion sensor light infornt of the garage so anyone walking by it is nice and visible. Also if they get away with your bike you can hide proof it's yours somewhere, like a small note with your name on it etc and gps tracking, basically trying to make it as easy as possible to get back later.
I did loose a trial bike about 6 ish years back and about 2 grands worth of tools, Now I use 3 padlocks on the gates, 2 on the sheds, alarm mines/ poachers traps with 12 bore black powder blanks with fishing line across points of entry to my garden and sheds.... I have set them off accidentally myself when forgetting to unset them before opening sheds and it's like getting a huge shock right trough ya body, more than just being made to jump...... and they are loud as fook, they would wake every neighbour and their/my dogs up, My Jack Russel is an eager little shite, but my Am bull hates anything in her garden that's not invited in by me or mine.....
She will do a full circuit of the garden snorking like a pig if any of my family go out there and does the same as we come in, Very protective dogs, but also very loving towards her pack... Answers to the name of Lard arse. :)
It took me about 1/4 of an hour to convince her that the hedge hog in next doors garden was not a threat about a week ago, she could hear that thing sniffing about from indoors at about 30 meters.
Just stepping in one of her turds would be enough to put any thief off, smelliest dogs on the planet...
The main point on 'security' is to make stealing any object such a ball ache that it is easier to go elsewhere. All you suggestions are valid Matt, it's down to the individual to think through their unique issues and put in place a solution. One thing that is an issue is modern social attitudes to communal living. Not many people 'look out for each' other and fewer are willing to intervene or question an unusual event or occurrence such as 'strangers or suspicious activity' in their neighbourhood. (despite what you would think regards terrorism etc) If you live in a remote area, with some land etc get a BFD and take some efforts regards security otherwise you're going to get a nasty surprise.. (BFD = Big Fucking Dog). The biggest issue for all criminal activity is 'time'...the longer they are delayed (depending on the circumstances) the less likely they are to try to steal something. Deny them the opportunity..
I got one of those eBay $8 shock sensors with built in alarm horn. Five sensitivity settings. Not as loud as I’d like it.. needs some more cow bell
im glad i dont have any issues like this around here
but hearing this still scares me
Bloody had a go at my CBF125 - bent the handle bars which were already slightly bent. Disc lock not even touched. Probably tried and the bars gave way. Rode that to my garage and cancelled the service which was due the next day.
I hate thieves.
As far as angle grinders go, couldn't you make a lock with an extremely hard steel, but it's encased in a softer material like lead or aluminum that would gum up a cutting disk or ruin the grinder?
Not a bad idea - tin would be good LOL
But seriously the problem with this is that it would then be easy to cut will bolt cutters
What i do....
1. Agreed. Ground anchor.
2. Chain the bike (through the frame or swing arm) - ive heard by chinese whispers that some thieves will take a spare wheel with them (if the bike is known to be chained up through the wheel.
3. I use a Roadlok (www.roadlok.com) on the front.
4. Tracker. (hide it in the airbox). My mate recovered his MX bike that way with 5 mates (no police called) went round the guys house, asked for the bike back, got the reply "i dont know what....." which is as far as he got before one was delivered square into the face. Bike was in the garage. Generic ebay tracker with a data sim (i use giff gaff)
5. Decent house alarm. In the garage ive got whats called a "sound bomb" which is illegal to be used externally its that loud. Apparently the human instinct is to just simply "get away" as fast as you can...if you try to say within in the vicinity of it - youll throw up...its that loud.
Those are my suggestions...my only devils advocate reply is if, you put locks and bars and allsorts all over the front...its like youve got something to hide so a red rag to a bull as its were...but, having said that if youve got no choice then youve got no choice...
Use your steering lock every time you get off the bike, including at home in the garage. The amount of bikes I see parked up without the lock on is crazy. It won't stop three people pulling up in a transit van and lifting it in, but it will at the very least deter a casual thief from wheeling it off.
Although a great idea and a must for keeping your shit safe, I feel that if you put loads of 'outside' security on your shed/garage it screams to the thieving pond scum that there is something in there worth lifting, but on the other hand you need to protect your stuff as best you possibly can. My shed and garage are linked to the house alarm and I have a CCTV baby monitor in there too as well as the usual ground anchors, chains, locks etc.
I live in one of the highest crime nations in the world.(south Africa) Theft is common place here. Best defense against thieves is being cunning yourself. Hidden GPS tracker inside the bike frame is best. Also making the access point very noisy helps a lot. Gravel pathways, squeaky door hinges. The tracker will also give you the direction /last place the bike was at giving you a clue whom it may be. But also as Matt says, PHYSICAL access is number one. Being cunning is how you recover the bike and punch the fuk heads in the nose., then call cops
I have a wireless alarm system on the house and garage, motion sensing night vision camera that sends messages and email and uploads video to the net, 2 mammoth chain/locks wrapped around the rear wheels of both bikes and hooked through my bike trailer and 2 disc locks. Then there’s all the shit that accumulated in the garage between the bikes and the door. Next project is scaffold bars across the door. I also have a baseball bat and hockey stick in the bedroom, cos I like sport obviously 😀 overkill ?
In addition to everything you said i suggest putting a baby monitor in your garage/shed so u will be alerted even b4 the twats start cutting or enything
I used to live in Manchester. over 15 yrs I've had 6 bikes stolen. only good bike thief is a dead one. Ground anchors, big fkn chains with boron in it & an alarm in the garage with some kind of motion detection on the door is my advice. Police are a waste of time. when I called I got "what do you expect us to do about it?" VIVA GMP
If i put a GPS traker hiden on the bike, and a stiker telling it, do you think it would make them change their mind?
1) they have to see the sticker and usually its night time.
2) they have to be able to read LOL
I hide gps tracker on my bikes and in my car etc etc. but I don't tell anyone I'd rather they nick it so I can find them! Also tell them it's there and they'll just remove it themselves!
The Workshop I've got a cheapo tracker, most don't but this one has a back up battery and texts you if they move the bike or cut the battery cable . Yes you do need to wake up when you get the text message through though.
The worst part about the GPS trackers is, they can't receive/transmit a message, when you put them into "Faraday cage", it will shield the electromagnetic signal going in/out. The standard van with fine steel mesh or steel plates in windows will simply do the trick. Considering you are stealing a bike, how else you want to transport it, than in the van....such van.
Yes, the GPS tracker or GSM alarm can ring you at the moment someone touches your bike, but as soon as they load it in the van, you are toasted and have no idea where to look for your bike. Technically the bike can be shielded like that until parted, GPS tracker located and disabled.
Trackers are a waste of money they only tell you after the event of a theft and only if they have clear view of satellites for position and mobile reception for texting. The other problem is the lack of Police resources means they usually will not chase up on stolen vehicles even with trackers.
There is a guy on here (youtube) called the lock picking laywer and he shows how easy it is to get past the locks we use every day thinking they'll be safe! I have 2 pitbulls (they do more than make noise) and hide gps trackers on my toys I live in an area where this isn't a problem but if I did I would also hide cctv recording 24/7! In my experience 20 quid padlocks can be removed with a medium strength hit from a claw hammer! So make sure they are hidden/ protected! The harder you make it for them the more likely they are to go somewhere else!
Get a titanium pad lock. It takes a diamond grinder 45mins to grind through it. I have 2. They cost me $75. You can get titanium chains also. Those are spendy though.
I have a concrete shed that I keep my bike in that you have to move the wheelie bins to get to which are wedged in so make a racket to move(trust me I do it every morning) there's also the normal locks/security on the bike. I also sleep 10 feet above the bike with my German shepherd cross malumute who as far as there concerned is a savage dog(despite that fact that she's more likely to lick them that bite them)
Eyup,Northern.One way of looking at your security,is to pretend youve lost your keys and work out how you would gain entry.Bearing in mind that any scrotes wanting to do so wouldnt worry about damage!
Digger.
If your garage has power, get an old baby monitor, plug the kid end into the socket in the garage and the other into a socket in your bedroom. Now get a couple of motion detection PIR alarms, cheap ones out of Aldi or wherever, get more than one, fix these in your garage so you can turn them on and off with the key fobs.. If the alarms go off get up and disable the thief's. Achilles tendon, then take your time.
Burglar alarm by Belgian Malinous, security shared with Smith and Wesson at my house. When you can own guns you have much fewer thefts.
I purchased a padlock that has a siren built into it if disturbed. When unlocking it you had to keep it perfectly level or it would scream. Used proper heavy locks to secure the chain but this siren lock just dangled there waiting.
Almax chains are pretty good or budget wise get some boat chain, keep chains off the ground and secure it through the frame or part of the bike that can't really be dismantled. There's always an anchor point somewhere I used to use the bars on the drain when I parked on the street in the lovely town of Stevenage.
Covers are great as well, kept mine covered with one of those covers cut for top boxes, so the breeze inflated it and it looked like a granny bike. Was working on it one day and one of my neighbors walked by and was like 'oh didn't realise that was under there..." Keep walking fella. Either I was lucky or what but no one dicked about with it.
sirico I wouldn’t advise boat chain, it’s only tempered and can be cut with a junior hacksaw. The trick is to keep the bike near the house, use a chain that cannot be bolt cropped (16mm or above) an anchor then it requires a grinder. Providing you’re prepared to stop them you should never lose a bike while your at home as a grinder will always give u time to stop the attempt. 👍
I remember practical performance car did a article back in the day on making a homemade tracker from a burner phone and sim matt maybe you should do a video on something like that mate would be a interesting little project because most tracking companies wont tell you where youre bike has gone incase you go after it which sounds shite to me so a homemade tracker would be awesome
There are loads of tracker devices available cheap (£15-20). Search ebay for tk102b and tk103b, they use a payg sim card.
Get the best you can get. Almax chains have Boron in them so it's really difficult to cut them. Use them at home because they're really heavy to carry. They also have an anchor called the defiant which is equally tough.
2 disc locks, one alarmed and one tough. I use the alarmed one on the rear and a bloody big one on the front. A high quality chain for when you are out but make sure there is something unmoving and solid to tie it to. Use the frame to wrap it round and make sure theres no chain on the floor.
Alarm immobiliser systems are also good. Not the cheap ones please. Datatool and META make some really good ones. Alarm so people can be alerted and immobiliser so they can't just do a push start without the key.
A good quality tracker also helps when it has been taken. Generally thieves leave it somewhere covert in case of a tracker.
As for other things? Remove the pillion pegs so it's far harder to lift or push along. A cover will deter thieves as well. Don't get a branded one, get a generic one. And shed or garage security will help too. Baby monitor, alarms, trip wires and barge bars will add time to their theft or stop them completely.
Or if you're like me, attach a live shotgun to a trip system.
I know everyone says that almax chains are too big and heavy to really carry around but surely the weight of a large chain and lock is not gonna be as heavy as having a pillion passenger. taking you put the chain in a top box or tank bag on the rear seat?
GPS trackers are a must! If it's only a weekend bike take one wheel off and keep it in a different location.
Stick to securing your shed properly and as in the video a good ground anchor like the Abus WBA 100 Granit an Almax series 3,4 or 5 chain and a 362 Abloy lock and put the chain round a difficult to remove part of the bike i.e. on the 1200GS through the rear wheel hub or around the upper part of the swing arm. If your parking it on a road whilst your out an alarmed disk lock or even two [one front and one rear] and a bike cover is also a good option. Dont spend several thousand on a bike and then skimp by buying a £50 lock and chain
More difficult and more noise they have to make the better......
Weather this is over the top but here’s a list of what I have
Two disks locks one on each wheel.
Oxford chain with lock about two meters this gose around front and rear wheel.
Front brake lock this gose over the front leaver pulls it in and locks over the throttle.
Motorcycle alarm
Grind anchor with another lock that’s weved around the two meter lock.
Shed alarm with cctv camera in side
And four shot bolt locks on the door
Trick to all this is... to slow them down as much as you can and in doing this make them have to make as much noise as possible
Which video of yours did you feature delboys patch in? I wanna see it 😂😂
Someone tried to steal my ER5 and the chain only cracked in one of the links but didn't give way. I got a much thicker chain next day!!!
Are those alarm mines (shotgun blanks) still legal? You'd hear that inside.
Nice one Matt,you couldn't make it up.a video about bike theft and a car alarm goes off.👍
Yeah I know - 1st time its ever happened as well!
The plane was at service because the hours of flight where to high. The birds where on the beach and the dogs sleeping and the kids playing online. So they have to come up with something new Matt!
Thieves hate noise and cameras. First delay them with a massive chain anchored to something, then make sure an air horn grade alarm goes off right in their face and they can't shut it off, the whole neighborhood should hear it. Then a camera monitoring the outside of the shed is usually more useful than on on the inside, it can scan for shady people snooping around and get number plates off vans etc. Last line of defense a well hidden GPS tracker which you don't advertise. You can get all this for 400 quid or so if you're handy and shop around a bit on ebay and amazon etc. Money well spent if your bike's a custom job you don't want to lose.
What I do; I have a sliding door (like Matt does), with two loops bolted on the top, and I put this lock (ua-cam.com/video/YcQE0DZ1_x0/v-deo.html&frags=pl%2Cwn) through the loops.
I do happen to live right behind my tiny little garage, so the lock sounding the alarm would actually wake me up at night. My garage is quite packed, so as long as I put all my stuff on steering lock, they wouldn't even be able to take 'em out.
Biggest point about locking your bike somewhere outside: Put the shackle through the FRAME (or between your shock and rear subframe, anything that makes it harder to simply wrench something off) and secure it to something like a tree or a lamp post. Just the front/real wheel (or both for that matter) makes it way too easy to take the entire thing and just leaving the wheel behind. They'll get a new one.
The same goes for simply putting the shackle through a wheel and leaving it unanchored. It's just a two, maybe three man job to lift a bike and load it in a van, and they'll cut the lock off elsewhere.
Oh, and I also have a GPS tracker fitted to my favourite bike :P
Maybe strain your brake levers with a piece of small metal/plastic lodged between the lever and support. Small enough to conceal and hard to see.
They won't be able to move your bike unless they cut your brake tubes. Just don't let anyone see u doing it.
liked your story about your Grandad, Top man!
My own contact with the twat who tried to nick my GT550 was a bit of comedy to say the least! The guy rolled it off it's stand without noticing the 'U' lock through the front wheel and dropped it trapping himself under it! When I discovered him trying to pull his trapped leg out from under my beloved he pleaded with me to help him get out. My reply was to call the police in front of him on my mobile with him calling me all the names he could think of and a few I'm pretty sure he'd just made up, and then wait for the police to arrive. Which they did, about 30 minutes later. He got 3 months for this and a few other offences they'd manage to pin on him, but I never saw him return despite he's threats.
He'd come from out of town just to nick vehicles and was well known to the Met and other forces..
These are mostly career criminals mostly looking for an opportunity, usually to fund a drug habit, and most visible deterrents will put them off, but like you say, nothing will stop the determined professional.
Had one of my bikes attempted to get nicked, problem was my garage was in my garden and you couldn't get out of the garden because of the drive and cars lol. Woke up to find my bike leant up against my gate
Love the bash board .Fucking brilliant solution.Thanks.H&R.
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Make it as hard as possible for anyone to steal! I have a datatool alarm & immobiliser, datataged, 3 huge chains, and numerous other smaller locks on disks and chain & sprockets etc! Chances of a thief taking my bike without finding all my locks are slim!
One of my favorite intro songs😁
I have always like the idea of turning your garage or shed into a virvarium. You could share it with an U.V. light some rocks and a cobra or rattle 🐍 snake. Obviously you have to be careful when you and your friends use the garage and you move your motorcycle in & out and may be keep some anti venom by the oil and wd40.
I use Thai boxing club stickers as well as Polish hooligan ones.
I can leave the keys on the bike. It's like a statement. "I dare you."
Until they find out that you are no member...
Don't put all the keys on the same key ring, or in the same draw/hook. If someone steals your keys they have your bike. For me I have disc lock with the bike key, garage door with my house keys, and key for the chain lock hidden elsewhere.
Plug in baby monitor if you’ve got power in the shed. You’ve got a good chance of hearing them before they get through the door