You are a remarkable teacher with deep insights into the whole process. As a mathematician I am trying to correlate the insights that Bates and other practitioners have uncovered over the years with known laws of optics, physiology and nutrition. So far I have 100% correlation. I am keeping a journal of this as well as my own sensations and experiences. Almost from the beginning I began to experiences remarkable changes to my eyesight I had been wearing dark sunglasses for decades (I hated fluorescents as they didn't create the right "mood' for thinking about math problems). I was probably 20/400 but have not had a new prescription in decades. I did not wear the glasses when reading, only for driving or outside work. Rest of the time I was content to live within my small horizon. After understanding the Revelation of "Lens Induced Myopia and Astigmatism" I felt morally compelled to just not use my glasses anymore. As you point out this is probably not the best for most people.I have the mental discipline to understand the whole program and to apply it during my waking hours continuously. Sunning to relax the cilial muscle (mine is probably like a rusty spring, I have some insights on how to help this and what is actually happening in the physiology over time) Deep Field gentle focus to further relax all the eye muscles Sunning to stimulate the proper biochemical environment in the eyeball as well as stimulate the back of the eye to move forward toward the light (analogy with plant growth) This further insight gave me hope, as well as the experimental evidence that you presented, that the eyeball would adjust itself The eye is an adaptive apparatus: Placing a static lens on top of its working must eventually lead to muscular confusion and disordination. Give the eye time to o accomodate from one focal distance to the next so as not to stress muscles or provoke "cilial lock", where the lenses is stuck in a certain shape that will only focus at a certain distance. My eyeball muscles rebelled on the third day. When I would look each eye seemed as if it wanted to run in 6 different directions.. I attribute this to muscular disordination ( notworking together and confused by years of wearing and trying to adapt to lens' refracted light rays. Persistent mental discipline via "active focus" eventually broke their stubborn misbehaviour. On day 8 I experienced an Outbreak of Clear flashes throughout the day. Sometime during the second week , the end of a street about 1/3 of a mile away came entirely into something like 20/20 focus but only for about 5 to 10 seconds. I have been experiencing clear flashes every day. This is the 4th week. As Jake has said: To see far you must practice looking far. I try to spend at least one hour/day just looking at extremely distant 1/3 to 1/2 mile. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE ABUSED CILIAL MUSCLES BE RESTORED BACK TO HEALTH AND FLEXIBILITY.. It must first be unstuck, then regain its flexibility and strength. It must then respond rapidly again to changing focal distances or sight will still remain blurry. Go slow in changing the distance of things we are looking at. What I see in all this is that there are a lot of subtle healings that need to occur for vision to be restored and that ONE CAN DO THINGS WRONG WITHOUT SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHY. What I also see is the tremendous persistence and psychological determination necessary to succeed. It seems only a remote possibility to me to successfully instruct a 7or 8 year old, whose myopia is just beginning, in these methods. I wrote up these rather lengthy observations hoping to help others gain insight into some of the psychological and physiological challenges that they will face in the struggle to regain their eyesight by natural means. There is a price to be paid for a Natural Healing
This is great! I just emailed you yesterday about my start but also having high astigmatism. This answers a lot of questions, glad I found your video. Big thank you!
jack，you are very right. The Optomitrist very told me that the astigmatism is my eye shape, it is fixed. So I asked her but when I was born and young, I don’t have them. Then she said oh, it will not change at your age. I am 40s. I think the Optomitrist only knows what they learned from the book. They hardly know much the rest. I found right eyes astigmatism is too strong. Makes my eyes sore. But with my old glasses with less astigmatism is more comfortable. I am going to change the Optomitrist she currently one is very arrogant and she did the least time on my eye test.
Can I ask I had -1.25 astigmatisms at right eye, can’t I just take it off straight off. As I recently try not to wear my glasses, -8.00. I felt my eyes are feeling more relax and comfortable. And the sight is getting more clear and bright. But once I put my old glasses I felt eyes strained and sore.
Jake's description of optos makes me very grateful for the one Ive had. They always gave me a prescription that seemed slightly worse than what I would have liked. Even during exams it felt like once everything got dialed in she would start giving me the lenses I said were the worse one...
Oh woow, I'm currently 3 days into your 7 days guide and I thought about this same question today and the Gurus at UA-cam just recommended this, similar to how I found you.... cheers.
I remember when I had my eye exam, the eye DR did something to the eye machine and I could see perfect!!!! I read the last line on the chart but when I ask him what he did, he always said he doesn't remember!!!
I found an optometrist willing to undercorrect my prescription so that I can avoid bifocals. She decided to remove the astigmatism correction as well. So I started wearing the new lower prescription conact lenses which felt totally fine and i felt my distance vision was no worse. Oddly, the next day I wore my old glasses with the higher prescription and astigmatism correction and i had a headache. And body felt “twisted”.
Wonderful, Jake. Your videos are always great. Could you make a video about pupil distance? Can that change throughout the endmyopia journey? I have the impression that mine has changed after having worn my first normalized for three months with lots of active focus and a measurable improvement.
Thank you that was very helpful, I was confused about the astigmatism I had and until I started looking at Endmyopia I didn't even know I had any!! I've been wearing glasses for many decades! I'll be glad when I finally get rid of it one day. It's so sad they start at the prescription you are at currently. I'll take your advice and cut it down slowly but surely:-)
I went to the optometrist fairly recently and this is word for word what happened. I ended up having a prescription for a -3.00 cylinder correction. I'm fairly certain its lens induced, heck they did an eye health check and they saw veins growing to my iris because i wore my lenses too excessively so my eyes had to compensate for a lack of oxygen supply (i have toric contacts, and i dislike my glasses so much). I believe i began with -0,50 cylinder, then went to -1.25, but it pretty much tripled in the last 4 years and i haven't checked up yet until now. They advised me to buy a new pair of glasses asap and stop wearing contacts immediatly, and try lenses only when absolutely necessary because of the veins growing to my iris and turn them into "ghost vessels".
I think it is very simple: lenses create stress on the eyes, possibly deforming them and creating astigmatism, the same way lenses can increase eye pressure by stress. When you remove the lens, the eyes slowly start to get back to normal, reducing the astigmatism.
Hey there, could you help me to sort out some questions? I have very strong myopia -11.75 both eyes with -2 cyl for both yes by last visometry which I have taken this month, before this I didn't go to eye doctor for decade and used -10 SPH glasses and -8.5 SPH contact lenses for very long time since 2012. I never used cylinder with glasses or contact lenses in my life, just SPH glasses, I had strong astigmatism also for very long period. I found that in 2012 it was even worse about -3.25 for both eyes. By some reason I reject to use CYL when I tried it with optometrist, because of headaches. Currently, I'm using -10 SPH glasses for work and -8.5 SPH lenses to go outside. They can provide me something 50% (glasses) and 30% - 50% (lenses) percents of normal vision depends on light, stress factors and etc, which is a too low for normal life when it's not sunny or during winter time. Main problem is astigmatism, it gives me double vision, blur even on short distance, according to last visiometry if I would use glasses -2 CYL and -11.75 SPH I can see 90% - 100%. Should I go to optometrist at first and correct my vision by glasses and lenses to get 20/25 vision at least. Currently, my glasses and lenses seems weak for distant work, but when I work with smartphone using -10 SPH glasses I've got eye strain, seems like it should be just -8.5? I'm trying to avoid any close work especially with smartphones Could you give me any advice how to deal with cylinder and should I start to use glasses and contact lenses with cylinder and go to optometrist and change glasses to something -11.25 and -2 cylinders instead of -10 SPH which I'm using now to distant work. I already watched tons of videos and read stuff. But seems like my astigmatism is not lens-induced because I've never used CYL in my life but with CYL I see 50% better with almost same SPH, as Jake said on this video changing prescription will cause a cascade of changing in visual system. Maybe guys you've seen something similar and can point me where I can read, because now I'm a bit frustrated how to reduce diopters for close and distant work when it seems I need -2 or -1.5CYL anyway Any advise to start dealing with this condition will be helpful for me. In this video was advice about checking cornea shape but what it gives to me? how I can use those checking to make a progress
I just looked at my "prescription" for the first time since i got it a year ago. I found out i only have -0.25 diopters of myopia on both eyes, but -1 and -1.5 diopters of astigmatism. Could my astigmatism be genetic? Is it possible to cure it with active focus and distance vision? Is there any point in trying some plus lenses for close up?
I feel so bad. My power was initially -0.25 spherical in only left eye. It gradually increased to -3.0 cycl in both eyes with spherical. I am pissed at myself for getting confused by the doctors.
@@arham_mtl oh thanks so much for letting me know i didnt know thats what causes it. What else causes it? My eyes arent fully developed at 16 so not sure. Also do you think wearing the astigmatism glasses makes it worse overtime?
@@KA_19. The eyes take a long time to fully develop. The doctor's I have been seeing recommended me to wait until I turn 25 for any surgical treatment. They want my powers to be stable. They are also tracking me for keratoconus. I don't think wearing astigmatism glasses makes it worse overtime but I do believe there are bad eye doctors out there. I would get my eye tested from multiple places to see if the eye power matches (atleast 2 doctors). The most important part is not rubbing the eyes, I used to do it in my sleep and never really realized until my partner told me about it.
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If I had it since my first prescription, and it's strong, does that mean I really have it?
No, you dont have astigmatism, I was overprescribed astigmatism by A WHOLE DIOPTER. It was insane.. then I went to another optometrist and they said i had no astigmatism, after 4 months of wearing my glasses I developed astigmatism.. it was lens induced, I'm on my journey to reverse it
You can't get glasses without a prescription. My eye doctor won't prescribe a lense strength of a step down. They all argue a step down will make your eye sight worse. How do you get lenses of a step down to reverse astigmatism???
#1 Yes you can. #2 If he's an optometrist, he's not even a medical doctor. #3 Shortsightedness isn't an illness anyway. #4 You're in a lens sales shop, you're the customer. Get what you ask for or shop elsewhere.
Glasses stress all the eye muscles as they try to accommodate for the artificial bent light rays that are entering the eye. They pull on the eyeballs in unnatural ways Get different angles of astigmatism depending on the muscle torque.
I rarely wear glasses like only when i go out or for driving, I think this is why my diopters only went upto -3, had i worn those glasses all day I'd be in -5s or -6s
I have -2 Cyl in my right eye and -0.75 in my left. I wish I had my first prescription still. I would really help me understand where I started before I had gotten -5.25 and -5.50. Due to my numbers I have a feeling I do have lens induced astigmatism.
(not an astigmatism topic) i can actually feel the change in the shape of my eyeball(bubble) ,it feels like squeezing inside my eyelid does people reducing their diopter also feels the same or what it is?
I've never worn glasses, though I have an astigmatism in my right eye that brings it down to 20/40. I do, however wear sunglasses all the time. Is it possible that non-corrective lenses (such as sunglasses) could cause astigmatism, too?
Old comment, but for others reference your eyes need direct sunlight for a multitude of reasons. Sunglasses inhibit that. Things like cataracts are a direct result of accumulated glycation from the horrible standard American diet. Sunlight exposure only advances the damage as a co-dependent, it isn't harmful by itself. TLDR eat right and ditch the sunglasses.
I have astigmatism, it's so hard to.explain I don't see double vision but I don't feel like I see one clear.image. no one gets what I mean and it's annoying my vision is just off!@
Oh! I never knew ophthalmologists can measure my astigmatism.. last time I went to see them hoping they could help me with corneal abrasion, suspecting the double vision is caused by corneal abrasion rather than astigmatism. they just pointed me to opticians if i need to check my astigmatism. good job ophthalmologists! good job!
How about if my astigmatism is -6 R and -5.25 L and sph -4 R and -2 L? I’ve tried increasing the spf and reducing the sph but my vision gets worse? Funnily enough when I lay down at night my vision clears up a fair bit and my eyeball feels less rugby ball shaped. I have POTS syndrome and I wonder if my low sodium is making my eyes dry and strained, and funnily shaped.
Astigmatism, is the shape of the eye. I have to wear a weight on one eye ( contacts). Tried color contacts once lol, one eye was so bad that it drifted and I looked like a cat eye because the lens would not sit properly.
seems like endless information about that but it is fun. what is considered for example a high ratio between spherical and cylinder ? for example 5.25 diopters with 0.25 cyl ? could that be a high ratio?
Hey jake i have -2 and -1.75 cyl correction in my eyes respectively. My spherical correction is just -1 in both eyes which was added after years of me wearing exclusively cylinder correction glasses. So should i just focus on the astigmatism?
what are your thoughts on having lasik or prk just to correct astigmatism? I have 20/15 sight in right eye, and 20/70 in left eye. When I wear a contact lens Plano(sphere), -1.75(cylinder), -010(axis) it is corrected. However, I dont like earring a contact lens. What are your thoughts on just correcting astigmatism. Again, my sphere correction is Plano. Thanks.
Uhm vast majority of astigmatism is corneal. Can that be lens induced? It is a physical misshape of the cornea... Nowadays almost every decent optometrist can measure the k1 and k2 readings and they have fancy machines which still give different results... astigmatism can develop during the years due to several circumstances. Just as with spherical when your young you probably had quite a few years with clear vision. Then it starts getting f*ucked up and they just give you the strongest prescription. That is where they should make improvements for the future generation. Give advise and try to slow it down.
@@endmyopia I "see" the doctor yet. Crosslinking and "cut" the first layer of cornea... Extras after procedure-no warranty for better sight, dry eyes, farsightedness "+" and more. I ask for Your opinion and observations with other people;)))
And now a personal question. What do you think? Why do most surgeons who do eye surgery most of them wear glasses? Is it so good to cut your eyes and is there a guarantee of "perfect" vision until old age ;).
Hello jake plz tell me how can i figure out do i have astigmatism or a lazy eye i have blurry vision,double vision sometimes in one eye and sometimes in both eyes nd even also eye strain in mainly one eye, and also main problem is eyes that may not appear to work together help me
Hi jake how can i figure out do i have astigmatism or a lazy eye i have blurry vision,double vision sometimes in one eye and sometimes in both eyes nd even also eye strain in mainly one eye, and also main problem is eyes that may not appear to work together help me how will i know what is it astgmatism or lazy eye
I went to the eye doc for the first time in 10 years recently and my new prescription had a big astigmatism correction in it. I never had an astigmatism correction before and even though the eye doc said I could still easily see 2020 in my old glasses he made major changes to my prescription. I could see 20/10 with the new glasses, and I got a massive headache and dizzy spells too, so I returned the glasses and they were really mad and tried to argue with me about returning the glasses (this was at a walmart) Never going to them again.
This eye doc actually made me say out-loud 3 different times that the new prescription looked better than my old one. He would not give me my prescription until I literally said it out-loud and he said he hated customers like me who were over 40 and had not been to an eye doc in over 10 years. He literally said several times that he "hated" people like me because we always come back and complain about the new prescription and he told me not to come back complaining to him. It was kinda shocking how they acted.
i want to ask you something seem i have - 1 but i never weared glasses in my life last 4 and haf years i got my eyes slowly go to minus because of computer work before i was 20/20 natural vision so what you will sugest to improve eyes since im in low myophia, i followed you in comments of jake video you says you use plus lences so that will be of help since i work close up 8 hours a day in front of pc? btw this question is not related to this video im just interested for advice since im close to - 1 or - 1.25.
Hey Jake, I recently found your website and was Wondering if to Book your online Course because I Naturally went from -6 to -4 in 2 years and healed my astigmatism to nearly 0% while not even really trying to do it. I simply let my eyes rest and try to eat clean and work out. Also I only use my glasses when necessary. Would it make sense to to get weaker glasses (-3) to train my eyes further? I often get headaches wearing them. Greetings from Germany:)
you said you were myopic but never proved it. for example showing an old picture showing you wearing glasses or maybe your prescription letters from your doctor🤔
I don’t think my astigmatism is genetic, im the only one in my family with astigmatism. Both my parents have perfect vision. I think I probably caused it when i was a child because i used to press on my eyes really hard to see “stars” 😢
I have a high astigmatism, with no spherical power. I have first got checked my eye on 2014 and my power was -2.00 on my left eye and -1.25 on my right eye. And recently my power rise to -3.00 in left and -2.00 in right..with no spherical power till now. Can I use bates method to improve my astigmatism
i want to ask you something seem i have - 1 but i never weared glasses in my life last 4 and haf years i got my eyes slowly go to minus because of computer work before i was 20/20 natural vision so what you will sugest to improve eyes since im in low myophia, i work close up 8 hours a day in front of pc? btw this question is not related to this video im just interested for advice since im close to - 1 or - 1.25.
@@endmyopia So only major astigmatism can be genetic? I never wore glasses, I can see things, why would I need them? However, after a period of bad headaches and a flop experience at some fancy pancy eye clinic that told me all I had was myopia and was spending too much time in front of my computer, a friend of mine recommended me an ophthalmologist she knew, so off I go to him. After listening to me for about ten minutes he told me I probably had astigmatism, then I got in that chair with the machine thing and for the first time in my life I realized I didn't see as well as I thought I did, most of my friends laugh about this last part, because how is it possible to NOT know when you don't see correctly? But it's true and actually kind of frustrating. Without my glasses I see things sort of blurry and it's been like that as far I can remember and now I know that's not how things are supposed to look, as stupid as that may sound to most. I googled how a person needing -3.00 cyl would see and that's definitely not how I see, so my stigmatism can't be that bad (I don't remember what my prescription said). In my case, glasses didn't cause my stigmatism (because I never had glasses before), and neither did genetics (because my astigmatism aint that bad), so that leaves life/bad habits? If that is so, is there hope for me to cure my astigmatism the way you mention in the video?
You are a remarkable teacher with deep insights into the whole process. As a mathematician I am trying to correlate the insights that Bates and other practitioners have uncovered over the years with known laws of optics, physiology and nutrition. So far I have 100% correlation. I am keeping a journal of this as well as my own sensations and experiences. Almost from the beginning I began to experiences remarkable changes to my eyesight I had been wearing dark sunglasses for decades (I hated fluorescents as they didn't create the right "mood' for thinking about math problems). I was probably 20/400 but have not had a new prescription in decades. I did not wear the glasses when reading, only for driving or outside work. Rest of the time
I was content to live within my small horizon.
After understanding the Revelation of "Lens Induced Myopia and Astigmatism" I felt morally compelled to just not use my glasses anymore. As you point out this is probably not the best for most people.I have the mental discipline to understand the whole program and to apply it during my waking hours continuously.
Sunning to relax the cilial muscle (mine is probably like a rusty spring, I have some insights on how to help this and what is actually happening in the physiology over time)
Deep Field gentle focus to further relax all the eye muscles
Sunning to stimulate the proper biochemical environment in the eyeball as well as stimulate the back of the eye to move forward toward the light (analogy with plant growth)
This further insight gave me hope, as well as the experimental evidence that you presented, that the eyeball would adjust itself
The eye is an adaptive apparatus: Placing a static lens on top of its working must eventually lead to muscular confusion and disordination. Give the eye time to o accomodate from one focal distance to the next so as not to stress muscles or provoke "cilial lock", where the lenses is stuck in a certain shape that will only focus at a certain distance.
My eyeball muscles rebelled on the third day. When I would look each eye seemed as if it wanted to run in 6 different directions.. I attribute this to muscular disordination ( notworking together
and confused by years of wearing and trying to adapt to lens' refracted light rays. Persistent mental discipline via "active focus" eventually broke their stubborn misbehaviour.
On day 8 I experienced an Outbreak of Clear flashes throughout the day.
Sometime during the second week , the end of a street about 1/3 of a mile away came entirely into something like 20/20 focus but only for about 5 to 10 seconds. I have been experiencing clear flashes every day. This is the 4th week.
As Jake has said: To see far you must practice looking far. I try to spend at least one hour/day just looking at extremely distant 1/3 to 1/2 mile. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE ABUSED CILIAL MUSCLES BE RESTORED BACK TO HEALTH AND FLEXIBILITY.. It must first be unstuck, then regain its flexibility and strength. It must then respond rapidly again to changing focal distances
or sight will still remain blurry. Go slow in changing the distance of things we are looking at.
What I see in all this is that there are a lot of subtle healings that need to occur for vision to be restored and that ONE CAN DO THINGS WRONG WITHOUT SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHY.
What I also see is the tremendous persistence and psychological determination necessary to succeed.
It seems only a remote possibility to me to successfully instruct a 7or 8 year old, whose myopia is just beginning, in these methods.
I wrote up these rather lengthy observations hoping to help others gain insight into some of the psychological and physiological challenges that they will face in the struggle to regain their eyesight by natural means. There is a price to be paid for a Natural Healing
I have astigmatism and myopia both, if i do active focus daily so i this was cured or not?... Please reply
Thank you for this detailed explanation of what's happening with the eye.
This is great! I just emailed you yesterday about my start but also having high astigmatism. This answers a lot of questions, glad I found your video. Big thank you!
Super great explanation. Thanks for clearing this up - always wondered about this part of the eye exam!
jack，you are very right. The Optomitrist very told me that the astigmatism is my eye shape, it is fixed. So I asked her but when I was born and young, I don’t have them. Then she said oh, it will not change at your age. I am 40s. I think the Optomitrist only knows what they learned from the book. They hardly know much the rest. I found right eyes astigmatism is too strong. Makes my eyes sore. But with my old glasses with less astigmatism is more comfortable. I am going to change the Optomitrist she currently one is very arrogant and she did the least time on my eye test.
Can I ask I had -1.25 astigmatisms at right eye, can’t I just take it off straight off. As I recently try not to wear my glasses, -8.00. I felt my eyes are feeling more relax and comfortable. And the sight is getting more clear and bright. But once I put my old glasses I felt eyes strained and sore.
Jake's description of optos makes me very grateful for the one Ive had. They always gave me a prescription that seemed slightly worse than what I would have liked. Even during exams it felt like once everything got dialed in she would start giving me the lenses I said were the worse one...
That's a keeper!
Oh woow, I'm currently 3 days into your 7 days guide and I thought about this same question today and the Gurus at UA-cam just recommended this, similar to how I found you.... cheers.
I remember when I had my eye exam, the eye DR did something to the eye machine and I could see perfect!!!! I read the last line on the chart but when I ask him what he did, he always said he doesn't remember!!!
I found an optometrist willing to undercorrect my prescription so that I can avoid bifocals. She decided to remove the astigmatism correction as well. So I started wearing the new lower prescription conact lenses which felt totally fine and i felt my distance vision was no worse. Oddly, the next day I wore my old glasses with the higher prescription and astigmatism correction and i had a headache. And body felt “twisted”.
Wonderful, Jake. Your videos are always great.
Could you make a video about pupil distance? Can that change throughout the endmyopia journey? I have the impression that mine has changed after having worn my first normalized for three months with lots of active focus and a measurable improvement.
So I have a question.why would someone go to optometrist if they don't have astigmatism in the first place?🤔. please explain
i feel astignatism is a compensation mechansim such as axial legnthening, also may be caused by outer muscles.
Thank you that was very helpful, I was confused about the astigmatism I had and until I started looking at Endmyopia I didn't even know I had any!! I've been wearing glasses for many decades! I'll be glad when I finally get rid of it one day. It's so sad they start at the prescription you are at currently. I'll take your advice and cut it down slowly but surely:-)
Thank you for providing this information. Looking forward to starting my journey
My glasses caused astigmatism I got specs 8 years ago -0.25 sph in both eyes & today I have -3.5 sph -3.5 cyl in right eye -5.0 sph 2.75cyl in left
Omg, that's too much cylindrical, do you see halos and glare at night around bright lights?
what do you think you should have done at -0.25cyl ? Not wear them?
Do you have a video for understanding the difference between spherical and cylindrical corrections and how it works?
Yes, yes, yes! Ah, brilliance. Thank you for explaining this to us so succinctly. You are awesome.
I went to the optometrist fairly recently and this is word for word what happened. I ended up having a prescription for a -3.00 cylinder correction. I'm fairly certain its lens induced, heck they did an eye health check and they saw veins growing to my iris because i wore my lenses too excessively so my eyes had to compensate for a lack of oxygen supply (i have toric contacts, and i dislike my glasses so much). I believe i began with -0,50 cylinder, then went to -1.25, but it pretty much tripled in the last 4 years and i haven't checked up yet until now.
They advised me to buy a new pair of glasses asap and stop wearing contacts immediatly, and try lenses only when absolutely necessary because of the veins growing to my iris and turn them into "ghost vessels".
I think it is very simple: lenses create stress on the eyes, possibly deforming them and creating astigmatism, the same way lenses can increase eye pressure by stress. When you remove the lens, the eyes slowly start to get back to normal, reducing the astigmatism.
My astigmatism went from -0.5 each to -3.5 in left I feel horrible now
I have -1 and 0.5 cyl or astigmatism so what to do now
He didn't tell about the genetic part
Hey there, could you help me to sort out some questions?
I have very strong myopia -11.75 both eyes with -2 cyl for both yes by last visometry which I have taken this month, before this I didn't go to eye doctor for decade and used -10 SPH glasses and -8.5 SPH contact lenses for very long time since 2012.
I never used cylinder with glasses or contact lenses in my life, just SPH glasses, I had strong astigmatism also for very long period. I found that in 2012 it was even worse about -3.25 for both eyes. By some reason I reject to use CYL when I tried it with optometrist, because of headaches.
Currently, I'm using -10 SPH glasses for work and -8.5 SPH lenses to go outside. They can provide me something 50% (glasses) and 30% - 50% (lenses) percents of normal vision depends on light, stress factors and etc, which is a too low for normal life when it's not sunny or during winter time.
Main problem is astigmatism, it gives me double vision, blur even on short distance, according to last visiometry if I would use glasses -2 CYL and -11.75 SPH I can see 90% - 100%.
Should I go to optometrist at first and correct my vision by glasses and lenses to get 20/25 vision at least.
Currently, my glasses and lenses seems weak for distant work, but when I work with smartphone using -10 SPH glasses I've got eye strain, seems like it should be just -8.5? I'm trying to avoid any close work especially with smartphones
Could you give me any advice how to deal with cylinder and should I start to use glasses and contact lenses with cylinder and go to optometrist and change glasses to something -11.25 and -2 cylinders instead of -10 SPH which I'm using now to distant work. I already watched tons of videos and read stuff. But seems like my astigmatism is not lens-induced because I've never used CYL in my life but with CYL I see 50% better with almost same SPH, as Jake said on this video changing prescription will cause a cascade of changing in visual system. Maybe guys you've seen something similar and can point me where I can read, because now I'm a bit frustrated how to reduce diopters for close and distant work when it seems I need -2 or -1.5CYL anyway
Any advise to start dealing with this condition will be helpful for me. In this video was advice about checking cornea shape but what it gives to me? how I can use those checking to make a progress
I just looked at my "prescription" for the first time since i got it a year ago. I found out i only have -0.25 diopters of myopia on both eyes, but -1 and -1.5 diopters of astigmatism. Could my astigmatism be genetic? Is it possible to cure it with active focus and distance vision? Is there any point in trying some plus lenses for close up?
Any improvement?
Any improvement?
Hai what is ypur axis
Very interesting that I missed this video until today..
Great explanation, very great language..
They’re a bunch of crooks!
@@audreymaclelland3995 who they?
@@benalerturk3715 I assume he meant eye doctors.
Astigmatism is also caused by a corneal that's the wrong shape. Coned instead of curved. I have keratoconus and I have -5 cyl in both eyes
What is ypur axis how you identify keratoconus
I never used glasses.. but I had astigmatism of -0.5×180° .. to see 6/6 ... What should I do now??
any update?
I feel so bad. My power was initially -0.25 spherical in only left eye. It gradually increased to -3.0 cycl in both eyes with spherical. I am pissed at myself for getting confused by the doctors.
Same here bro, i have only myopia (spherical) but it gradually increases astigmatism (cylindrical)... Now i have both of them
at -0.25 what do u think you should have done? Not wear the cylinder at all?
@@KA_19. just not rub my eyes when young, i think by rubbing my eyes i ruined them, I learned very late that rubbing causes it
@@arham_mtl oh thanks so much for letting me know i didnt know thats what causes it. What else causes it? My eyes arent fully developed at 16 so not sure. Also do you think wearing the astigmatism glasses makes it worse overtime?
@@KA_19. The eyes take a long time to fully develop. The doctor's I have been seeing recommended me to wait until I turn 25 for any surgical treatment. They want my powers to be stable. They are also tracking me for keratoconus.
I don't think wearing astigmatism glasses makes it worse overtime but I do believe there are bad eye doctors out there. I would get my eye tested from multiple places to see if the eye power matches (atleast 2 doctors).
The most important part is not rubbing the eyes, I used to do it in my sleep and never really realized until my partner told me about it.
If I had it since my first prescription, and it's strong, does that mean I really have it?
dont trust the the eye doc commrad
No, you dont have astigmatism, I was overprescribed astigmatism by A WHOLE DIOPTER. It was insane.. then I went to another optometrist and they said i had no astigmatism, after 4 months of wearing my glasses I developed astigmatism.. it was lens induced, I'm on my journey to reverse it
@@markjens9046 how do you reverse it?
@@markjens9046 yess inducedd lensaa truee how to fix it? Bates?
You can't get glasses without a prescription. My eye doctor won't prescribe a lense strength of a step down. They all argue a step down will make your eye sight worse. How do you get lenses of a step down to reverse astigmatism???
#1 Yes you can. #2 If he's an optometrist, he's not even a medical doctor. #3 Shortsightedness isn't an illness anyway. #4 You're in a lens sales shop, you're the customer. Get what you ask for or shop elsewhere.
@@endmyopia I'll try Costco, but when I asked, I was told no.
Please do a next video on low myopia /astigmatism
visit www.endmyopia.org or search this channel for more videos and for removing glasses.
Can Astigmatism get worse from bad habits
and too much close time without glasses (lens)?
Glasses stress all the eye muscles as they try to accommodate for the artificial bent light rays that are entering the eye. They pull on the eyeballs in unnatural ways Get different angles of astigmatism depending on the muscle torque.
I rarely wear glasses like only when i go out or for driving, I think this is why my diopters only went upto -3, had i worn those glasses all day I'd be in -5s or -6s
Nothing do do with the subject, but why do you always say you don't like your face??? Your pretty!!
😂
Yeah he is pretty
I have -2 Cyl in my right eye and -0.75 in my left. I wish I had my first prescription still. I would really help me understand where I started before I had gotten -5.25 and -5.50. Due to my numbers I have a feeling I do have lens induced astigmatism.
Bro , do you see halos and glare around bright lights at night???
hai Steiner actually I am not able to understand what I do for my myopia which is -2 D .so please suggest me something listed manner .so I can follow
(not an astigmatism topic) i can actually feel the change in the shape of my eyeball(bubble) ,it feels like squeezing inside my eyelid does people reducing their diopter also feels the same or what it is?
I've never worn glasses, though I have an astigmatism in my right eye that brings it down to 20/40. I do, however wear sunglasses all the time. Is it possible that non-corrective lenses (such as sunglasses) could cause astigmatism, too?
No chance
Old comment, but for others reference your eyes need direct sunlight for a multitude of reasons. Sunglasses inhibit that. Things like cataracts are a direct result of accumulated glycation from the horrible standard American diet. Sunlight exposure only advances the damage as a co-dependent, it isn't harmful by itself. TLDR eat right and ditch the sunglasses.
I have astigmatism, it's so hard to.explain I don't see double vision but I don't feel like I see one clear.image. no one gets what I mean and it's annoying my vision is just off!@
I was told that because the thinning of my cornea, I might need a cornea transplant.
Do you have keratoconus?
Oh! I never knew ophthalmologists can measure my astigmatism.. last time I went to see them hoping they could help me with corneal abrasion, suspecting the double vision is caused by corneal abrasion rather than astigmatism. they just pointed me to opticians if i need to check my astigmatism. good job ophthalmologists! good job!
How about if my astigmatism is -6 R and -5.25 L and sph -4 R and -2 L? I’ve tried increasing the spf and reducing the sph but my vision gets worse? Funnily enough when I lay down at night my vision clears up a fair bit and my eyeball feels less rugby ball shaped. I have POTS syndrome and I wonder if my low sodium is making my eyes dry and strained, and funnily shaped.
Hi, how much your astigmatism changed over the time? How much astigmatism you had as a kid?
Hi, how much your astigmatism changed over the years?
And when reducing your myopia your astigmatism must change at the same time
I liked the part where you talked about it being genetically linked.
Astigmatism, is the shape of the eye. I have to wear a weight on one eye ( contacts).
Tried color contacts once lol, one eye was so bad that it drifted and I looked like a cat eye because the lens would not sit properly.
seems like endless information about that but it is fun. what is considered for example a high ratio between spherical and cylinder ? for example 5.25 diopters with 0.25 cyl ? could that be a high ratio?
What about measurements of astigmatism made by computer?
Jake, will you be my eye doctor?
Hey jake i have -2 and -1.75 cyl correction in my eyes respectively. My spherical correction is just -1 in both eyes which was added after years of me wearing exclusively cylinder correction glasses. So should i just focus on the astigmatism?
Thanks so much!!
Are there different angles for the cylinder correction for close up and distance vision? I have that impression when using my test lens kit.
what are your thoughts on having lasik or prk just to correct astigmatism? I have 20/15 sight in right eye, and 20/70 in left eye. When I wear a contact lens Plano(sphere), -1.75(cylinder), -010(axis) it is corrected. However, I dont like earring a contact lens. What are your thoughts on just correcting astigmatism. Again, my sphere correction is Plano. Thanks.
I have an appointment for lasik in about a week, april 12, and my left eye is the very same prescription as yours. Sph:0
Cyl:-1.75
Axis:10
@@jov6826 how did your lasik go as i have the same prescription as yours.
No spherical
-1.75
Axis - 10
@@jov6826 How did it go?
Uhm vast majority of astigmatism is corneal. Can that be lens induced? It is a physical misshape of the cornea... Nowadays almost every decent optometrist can measure the k1 and k2 readings and they have fancy machines which still give different results... astigmatism can develop during the years due to several circumstances. Just as with spherical when your young you probably had quite a few years with clear vision. Then it starts getting f*ucked up and they just give you the strongest prescription. That is where they should make improvements for the future generation. Give advise and try to slow it down.
Jake , is lasik safe for astigmatism ?
1 percent risk
@@shadowgaming7585 how com?
@@sultanahotb7382 chance of complications
@@shadowgaming7585 don’t speak on things you don’t know about. Lasik is dangerous and was not supposed to be approved.
@@Yousef-ci7gb i was telling the same, i am also a endmyopia student
idk he reminds me of Adam Sandler or somebody
Mr Stainer, Please tell something about people with keratoconus.
Go see a doctor. :)
@@endmyopia I "see" the doctor yet. Crosslinking and "cut" the first layer of cornea... Extras after procedure-no warranty for better sight, dry eyes, farsightedness "+" and more. I ask for Your opinion and observations with other people;)))
And now a personal question. What do you think? Why do most surgeons who do eye surgery most of them wear glasses? Is it so good to cut your eyes and is there a guarantee of "perfect" vision until old age ;).
Great job
I have -7D
On average, how long will it take to get to maybe -2 if I follow all you have said till date completely
Sanjog Nepal I would say 2 years
So true.
Hello jake plz tell me how can i figure out do i have astigmatism or a lazy eye i have blurry vision,double vision sometimes in one eye and sometimes in both eyes nd even also eye strain in mainly one eye, and also main problem is eyes that may not appear to work together help me
Whenever I see "plz" I already stop reading.
Hi jake how can i figure out do i have astigmatism or a lazy eye i have blurry vision,double vision sometimes in one eye and sometimes in both eyes nd even also eye strain in mainly one eye, and also main problem is eyes that may not appear to work together help me how will i know what is it astgmatism or lazy eye
I went to the eye doc for the first time in 10 years recently and my new prescription had a big astigmatism correction in it. I never had an astigmatism correction before and even though the eye doc said I could still easily see 2020 in my old glasses he made major changes to my prescription. I could see 20/10 with the new glasses, and I got a massive headache and dizzy spells too, so I returned the glasses and they were really mad and tried to argue with me about returning the glasses (this was at a walmart) Never going to them again.
This eye doc actually made me say out-loud 3 different times that the new prescription looked better than my old one. He would not give me my prescription until I literally said it out-loud and he said he hated customers like me who were over 40 and had not been to an eye doc in over 10 years. He literally said several times that he "hated" people like me because we always come back and complain about the new prescription and he told me not to come back complaining to him. It was kinda shocking how they acted.
Good that you now discovered Jake
i want to ask you something seem i have - 1 but i never weared glasses in my life last 4 and haf years i got my eyes slowly go to minus because of computer work before i was 20/20 natural vision so what you will sugest to improve eyes since im in low myophia, i followed you in comments of jake video you says you use plus lences so that will be of help since i work close up 8 hours a day in front of pc? btw this question is not related to this video im just interested for advice since im close to - 1 or - 1.25.
Hey Jake,
I recently found your website and was Wondering if to Book your online Course because I Naturally went from -6 to -4 in 2 years and healed my astigmatism to nearly 0% while not even really trying to do it. I simply let my eyes rest and try to eat clean and work out. Also I only use my glasses when necessary. Would it make sense to to get weaker glasses (-3) to train my eyes further? I often get headaches wearing them. Greetings from Germany:)
How your astigtism heal anything you are doing
Please reply thank you
This channel should have atleast 1 million subscribers..😎😀
lol a bit of an ovnerestimation for a medical channel. But yeah!
you said you were myopic but never proved it. for example showing an old picture showing you wearing glasses or maybe your prescription letters from your doctor🤔
Of all the Internet "prove its!", this is my favorite.
Key word maybe
I have -11, can I correct using contact lenses? It costs a lot to keep changing my glasses LOL
I don’t think my astigmatism is genetic, im the only one in my family with astigmatism. Both my parents have perfect vision. I think I probably caused it when i was a child because i used to press on my eyes really hard to see “stars” 😢
Mee too
I have a high astigmatism, with no spherical power. I have first got checked my eye on 2014 and my power was -2.00 on my left eye and -1.25 on my right eye. And recently my power rise to -3.00 in left and -2.00 in right..with no spherical power till now. Can I use bates method to improve my astigmatism
I have asked this question about 10 times he dont answer it
Yo can reduce your prescription slightly and active focus
But where comes the genetic part then. And how would someone have a 'misshaped' cornea in the first place
Some people do. Point is if it started low, it's not genetic.
i want to ask you something seem i have - 1 but i never weared glasses in my life last 4 and haf years i got my eyes slowly go to minus because of computer work before i was 20/20 natural vision so what you will sugest to improve eyes since im in low myophia, i work close up 8 hours a day in front of pc? btw this question is not related to this video im just interested for advice since im close to - 1 or - 1.25.
@@endmyopia So only major astigmatism can be genetic? I never wore glasses, I can see things, why would I need them? However, after a period of bad headaches and a flop experience at some fancy pancy eye clinic that told me all I had was myopia and was spending too much time in front of my computer, a friend of mine recommended me an ophthalmologist she knew, so off I go to him. After listening to me for about ten minutes he told me I probably had astigmatism, then I got in that chair with the machine thing and for the first time in my life I realized I didn't see as well as I thought I did, most of my friends laugh about this last part, because how is it possible to NOT know when you don't see correctly? But it's true and actually kind of frustrating. Without my glasses I see things sort of blurry and it's been like that as far I can remember and now I know that's not how things are supposed to look, as stupid as that may sound to most. I googled how a person needing -3.00 cyl would see and that's definitely not how I see, so my stigmatism can't be that bad (I don't remember what my prescription said). In my case, glasses didn't cause my stigmatism (because I never had glasses before), and neither did genetics (because my astigmatism aint that bad), so that leaves life/bad habits? If that is so, is there hope for me to cure my astigmatism the way you mention in the video?