I had some problems reducing my astigmatism but +4 lenses helped me alot. As soon as I feel eyestrain or tiredness I just relax and wear my plus glasses for 3 minutes while staring into the wall or ceiling. It really relaxes all the muscles. Sometimes I had that evening spasm when I couldn't even sleep so plus helped me to release that spasm
Thank you so much. I was wondering exactly how to begin and was over-complicating it on my own. Been looking at endmyopia for a few years, but only now am I feeling the NEED to do something.
Haha. Have you seen my latest video? Perhaps even more like a long ad for clearly just based off all the glasses I have bought from them now that I have on display 😆
@@GemilyMez Hahaha! Wow! I just gave it a watch 🤣. Love seeing the progress you've made! For me I want to reduce astigmatism. I have CYL -2.5 in right and -3 in left. I've not been wearing glasses but every year it gets about -0.25 worse. Any idea how I can reverse this or stop it getting worse?
Hmm, it's getting worse without your wearing glasses. And it bothers you? As in, it is not just an optometrist telling you that you need astigmatism correction - you actually see the effects in your vision? I can't speak from my own experience here, so it is just what I would try if I were in that situation: very similar to the EM method, I would get glasses that were slightly undercorrected and use them to practice fusing the image, clearing the vision. I don't know if it will work, but that would be what I would do.
For what it’s worth, I like your clear glasses! As for someone who hasn’t seen you with other glasses on yet. I think the clear frames look great! And I want a clear pair now!
I guesstimated my first differentials (sph went cyl) and dropped at least -0.5 cyl off each eye (started mid -1s cyl) and did not notice directional blur at a 75-90cm distance (preferred screen distance). It really is amazing that even in the moderate myopia moderate astigmatism range, how much less cylinder help you need in that shorter computer distance)
What advice do you have for Very high Astigmatisms cases ? DIA:15.0 PWR:14.50 CYL: -4.25 AX:080 DIA:15.0 PWR:13.75 CYL: -4.25 AX:115 What's the best lens for me ?
WHAT I DO: If -1 D Cyl? Convert to Spherical. Divide by 2. Therefore use -1/2 Spherical. You will still have 20/20. Astigmatism "correction" makes money for the OD. it keeps you totally confused.
How on earth do you get prescription glasses with a 0.25 drop!?!?? Everyone requires a prescription. If you ask eye doctors to give you a prescription with a drop, they won't do it. They argue you can't fix astigmatism, and you need a higher prescription!!!
Hello Dear Madam We Are Worried... Please tell me how much time I can fix my vision.... How Can Improve My SYL -1.50 Eyesight 😭 please help me how can control my eyesight and remove glasses ????
Hi Gemily Of all the hyped up, and unnecessary, "prescription", it is for nornal cylinder. The FAA, does not require this measurement. Most eyes, with positive status, and mild, and normal cylinder - will self measure at 20/20. I measure my own refraction, to avoid arguments about this issue with ODs. Please try to avoid getting wrapped around the axle, on this subject.
Yes, and have you heard about the new (?) idea that a small amount of astigmatism is normal and actually useful for vision? Almost as though it were a feature of the eyes not a defect.... Interesting how there is so much desire to "fix" our eyes, which are so incredible without our "help". You'll be pleased to know I have been checking in regularly with my Snellen. Now with my OD -1.75 OS -2.00 glasses I can read 20/20+5 (when I first started wearing them on 27th April I could only read 20/40 with them). 2 more weeks and I will be going down another step: equalising to -1.75 for both eyes. So excited for that - both the equalisation, and to have left the -2s altogether! Getting closer and closer to reading that Snellen without these lenses.
What does your eye doctor think about playing with your prescriptions? Astigmatism is caused by the shape of the eye. How does changing the prescriptions going to change the shape of the eye? Only contacts have been show to be able to do that some. Entertaining but confusing and I been wearing glasses 40 years and one cataract surgery which gave me 20/20 in that eye and no astigmatism. Other eye still the same. So glasses the one lens is just no prescription.
I have .25 and .5 astigmatism, no sph power but i still get eye strain a lot Should i use my eyeglasses for near use only or should i use them all the time ?
Hi, Have you done a video where you have listed the progressive reduction of your prescription in the form of an excel spreadsheet or table, where the list includes all those prescriptions that you have ordered?
Oh good. This Astigmatisms things has indeed confused me a bit. I never had that, till my very last prescription, which gave me a 0.25 on my left eye. So I never really bothered, to find out, what it actually is. Can’t say, I ever noticed any kind of double vision, either...so maybe I was misdiagnosed on that. Because....I followed the advice on the seven day email thingy and ordered my first pair of differentials at -1,5 below my normal prescription (which I double checked with the measurement tape, of course), but added 0,25 diopter on the left side, while dropping the astigmatism. Cause that’s what it explicitly said to do in the mail. So I went from -4 to -2,5 on the right and -2,75 to -1,5 on the left. Only my right eye is slightly, but noticeably weaker with those glasses now (because of that correction, presumably) so I‘m not sure, if they’ll even work for practicing active focus. But then, they’re too ‚strong‘ overall anyway...I don’t experience any real blurriness on either side till things are between 1-1,5 m away (depending on time of day/lighting). Bummer! Guess, I‘ll just bite the bullet and order new ones at -2,25 and 1,0 respectively. That should give me even vision and blurriness at the appropriate distance. Seems you‘re spot on and one shouldn’t mess with both measurements at once!
I am intrigued that you replaced -0.25 of cyl with 0.25 sph. I think 0.5 cyl translates to 0.25 sph, so you may have indeed made your left eye a little stronger than required. Have you bought your new weaker diffs yet? Whatever diffs you are on, how are they feeling now?
Gemily Mez Yes, you’re correct, I checked my notes again and I actually had -0,5 cyl., not 0,25. With 0,25 you would indeed be supposed to just drop the cylinder without any modifications. I didn’t get around to ordering new glasses before my holiday, of course (lol). I just bought a couple of disposable contact lenses in different strengths and will play around with those a bit, to determine the best strength for me.
Hello mam I'm 13 years old almost 14 It's been 3 years since I am wearing glasses I have very high prescription and its change only in 1 month again, Now it's - Right eye Sph= -3.00 Cyl= -0.50 Axis= 10 Left eye Sph= -3.00 Cyl= -0.50 Axis= 170 Still don't know see enough clear I don't know what to do I only want 20/20 vision Please help me... Sorry for bad English I'm an Indian..
Hello my daughter is 9 years old she is having sphere of right eye -1and left .50 cylindrical right is -2and left -1 please tell me how can i reduce it
i cant see things that is more than 14 inchest away from one of my eye but i have never worn glasses do i just have muscle spasm ir do i still have myopia? also i hadden been able to see that well in a long time and my other eye i can see perfectly fine
It could be many things. I couldn't possible tell you. I advise you go and see an opthalmologist to find out why one eye doesn't have good vision. It seems like a very short distance if it were just spasm. It could be myopia, but why it would be so bad in one eye if you have never worn glasses I couldn't say. It could be something completely different. And I am no medical professional. Go get it checked out by a professional. If they say it is myopia, then you can see if something can be done, but unless you know what it is you're wasting your time asking people on the internet. Book an appointment.
Hi mam, I am 19, When i went to my doctor for the exam he write +0.50 on both on priscription (Sheprical) in Far sighted what does it mean can a no. Be in plus for kids(he didn't write in near add ) he said you need spherical but i got blurry in some angles please help me to know what that plus sign means as i am 19 why it was not in - ve
What do you do when one eye is -4 SPH and the other is +0.25 SPH? The farsighted eye is so messed up with congenital grainy non-correctable amblyopia that I don't want to try to fix it (I doubt it can be fixed), I just want to reduce the -4. Can you reduce the diopters on one eye without touching the other when they are so completely different? They both have astigmatism (-1.25 and -2.00, respectively) but I'm not worried about changing that just yet, after watching this video. Thank you.
I have been diagnosed with astigmatism at age of 6. No sph on left eye and - 0.5 on the right eye. Cyls are -2.75 and -2.5. The doctor said I was born with astigmatism, can that still be fixed? Thanks.
An answer I can't find is do you reduce axis with the cylinder value? If so, is it by a certain standard? Like .25 is the conservative drop for spherical and cylinder, would 10° be the drop for axis?
You can try to confirm your axis with some free tools mentioned on the EM site, but axis is not something you'd try to change once you know it (think about the dial on a clock)
How do you reverse the vision stretching of astigmatism though, does that happen naturally when you do end myopia or does it just affect the doubling ? Because the visual distortion is what really affects my life not the doubling.
@@Raj0307 hey, thats better than alot of people, dont worry. Anything up to -3.00 is considered mild myopia it is not that bad. Me myself I have a prescription of -3.25 in both eyes dony worry dude
Leave your cylinder and axis as they are to begin with. And start by getting "differential" glasses. Have you read Jake's free 7 day email guide yet? endmyopia.org/7-day-e-mail-guide-sign-up-page/
so Mrs. Astigma what about the nonstructure course by spherical or axis drops or add, but do acupuncture to the points below the eyes. In other words what if the tensions of the brain are transferred into the eye and the body or the muscle response. In other words, is this more anatomical or body, or is it about the mind, like using eyeglasses that show everything upside down, then later it reverses but after you take off the so-called differentials stuff off then everything appears upside down until your eyes normalized.
Just discovered your channel, along with endmyopia :) Started wearing my last prescription (I just thought to start ASAP) now instead of the current OD prescribed one which is higher.
@@vedikapainjane3591 A few things to ask yourself - how does it feel when you wear them? How different are they from your previous correction? And are they balanced with your more recent correction - so have both eyes gone up by the same amount, or has one eye changed more than the other? I would take care with that, but it is quite possible that your old correction could work for you. More important than having a lower correction for daily use is having a lower correction for close up work - lower by about 1.5 - 2 diopters. That's more important than getting your full correction off your face for distance/normal vision.
@@GemilyMez I stopped wearing them, the difference in one eye was too great (both sph and cyl) so it was making my head ache, waiting for my differentials (strict lockdown restarted in my area). The other eye was perfect, but I am gonna buy the differentials first, almost done with the 7 day subscription of endmyopia :)
Hi Gemily I am a big fan of your videos, it's really helpful, I would like to ask you about differential and normalized glasses, should I switch to normalized every 20 minutes when taking breaks I got my first differential three days ago & I have a headache is it because of too much switching.
Hey there! Yeah, I change into my normalised when I have my breaks, because I look into the distance and let my ciliary muscle relax, and there is not much point looking out into blur. Your ciliary may not even relax if you brain can't work out what distance it is meant to be aiming for. You say you just got your differentials 3 days ago, so I assume that when you say "normalised" you are using your original full-correction glasses? (that's good). It's true that our brains aren't made for focal plane switching, but for different distances, switching between the 2 should be okay. But look, it's possible that it is the switching, but my first guess would actually be the differentials themselves: sometimes it takes a few days to get used to them, and some people get some headaches. If the headaches continue for too long though, my next thing I would do, if it were me, would be to check my differential correction - maybe it is too weak, or maybe you adjusted cylinder when you shouldn't have, or maybe the ratio between your eyes in your differentials is different from the ratio between your eyes in your full glasses. So a few options. The switching could be it, but not the most likely in my opinion. I hope your headaches go away so you don't have to mess about with details too much. But if you do need to change you differential correction that is a bit of a pain, but the first pair of differentials is always a bit of a guess. Once you get them right, stepping down will get easier from there.
Thank you! That's lucky! My next pair of glasses have black frames but are the same as some clear frames I have (the round ones) and I tried them on and, after all this time in clear frames now, the black frames were suddenly really visible and annoying! My brain wasn't ignoring them anymore! So I think when I am I ready for those, I will pop the lenses of them out and swap the lenses into the clear frames I have that are the same shape.
Mam i have a problem that i see Jake's video and start doing active focus. I do active focus for 12 days and also completely stop using phone or laptop, so my myopia starts reducing ... But my astigmatism starts increasing. Now what can i do... Plzzzzzz reply
Usually this is not actual astigmatism. It can be a sort of transient astigmatism as the eye is in the process of changing, or it can be the blur starting to clear up and becoming double vision. Just keep going. You're on the right track!
I started experiencing fuzziness when looking at devices screens last year. As I work mostly on computers, I booked an eye test and I was diagnosed with astigmatism along with some near sighted and far sighted. After the appointment I was prescribed with glasses to correct the issues all on one pair of lenses, however I feel like the fuzziness 😊n electronic devices didn’t get that much better, should it make the issue much better?
In the short term, astigmatism can be more of a challenge if you are trying to clear things up with active focus. But long term, your good habits and active focus should help to improve your astigmatism too.
spherical is myopia correction. cylinder is astigmatism correction, and axis is which direction the cylinder correction needs to go. Glasses can have only spherical for myopia, but no cylinder. That is perfectly possible.
@@GemilyMezI now have -3.25 in both eyes 2 years ago my eye doctor prescribed me: OD SPH: -3.25 CYL is -0.75 My OS. SPH: -3.50 CYL Is -0.50 This was in my original prescriptions 2 years ago But I heard that having CYL below -1 doesn’t matter and you should just drop it. I’m very new to this and I have bought my glasses off of Amazon. And since both my eyes were so close. I just dropped one side by .25 SPH. I seriously can’t tell the difference with the CYL
Hi, ma'am, I am a great fan of yours😊.I am not asking for dioptre specific advice ,but want to clear some general doubts regarding dioptre reductions for astigmatism . My eye measurements are : On right eye: Sph:-4.25 and Cyl:-1.25 On left eye: Sph:-5.00 and Cyl:-1.75 So if I want to make my first cyl reduction after 2 sph which one among the below should I do: 1.Just keep the sph as such and simply drop 0.5 diopters of cyl on both eyes. OR 2. Simply drop 0.5 diopters of cyl on both eyes and add 0.25 D of sph on both eyes to compensate for that. Which among the 2 methods is the correct way of cyl reduction? And if u give me option 1 or 2 as the answer, when should I use the other method? (2 or 1 according to ur answer)
Option 1 is not something I would do (although it might work for some people). As I see it, your options are: 1. Just drop 0.25 of cyl and leave sph as it is, or 2. Drop 0.5 of cyl and increase sph by 0.25. If it were me, I would just drop 0.25 cyl and see how it went. I would be more tempted to swap cyl into sph if I had more cyl than sph (it is good to get rid of cyl before the final diopter). Hope it goes well!
@@GemilyMez So what you would do is for each cyl reduction, (if ur cyl is less than sph) you would simply drop 0.25 cyl from both eyes and keep the sph as it is . Am I right?
@@GemilyMez Just one more doubt. I am sry😅. So while making the cylinder reductions , I have read that we need to keep the axes the same (here's the link to it- drive.google.com/file/d/0B5REdzibAJQ4VFJuWnZCU3dLcHc/view) . Is this true? So when should we actually reduce the axis during the entire process?
High myopia or high astigmatism? And yeah, I can't make any guarantees, but plenty of people are following the EndMyopia method who have high corrections and it is working. I think the highest person following it that I know started with -18.
I love your advanced box technology at 6:35, is this active focus? And the dual screen technology at 7:30 I agree with your sis about the clear glasses! it looks cute
I have low astigmatism, not that much. Do you know if it is alright for me to wear 'regular' spherical contacts instead of toric contact lenses. And if I use regular lenses that do not correct astigmatism, will my astigmatism gradually improve due to less reliability on correction?
Ooh, that is a tricky one. How low is your astigmatism? If it is only -0.25 then dropping it for contacts would be a fine reduction (assuming you left sph the same), but dropping some cyl and some sph could be challenging, and dropping cyl on your first reduction can be inadvisable as it is more of a challenge to clear that sph.... are the toric contacts more expensive? And are they not dailies? (these are reasons I can think of as to why you might be eager to drop the cyl early in your journey). Some ideas to consider: 1) don't drop any cyl. Just continue with the toric lenses while you reduce your sph a couple of times first. 2) replace your cyl with sph (it would mean some axes would be over corrected, but none would be undercorrted) and let your brain/eye adjust to the new "layout" without the added blur challenge, and then after a few months for your eyes to adapt to that, start reducing with your new simplified sph-only correction (use +1.5ish glasses over your contacts to make a differential) 3) Keep your current contacts and use +0.25 glasses over the top to create a normalised correction (and maybe later +0.5s) so you don't have to get new contacts until you are ready to drop the cyl. This would make sense if your toric lenses are not dailies and are expensive. Also, the simple +0.25 and +0.5 could come in handy once you get to your final diopter to use as differentials at times. Of course, I am not an optometrist or medical professional. These are just some ideas for you to consider and make your own decision.
@@GemilyMez Thanks for the response. My sph is -3.00 in both eyes with -0.75 cyl in both eyes. The thing is, I had the same astigmatism prescribed to me 2 years ago and both my glasses and contacts were given to me by my eye doctor with no astigmatism so I'm assuming its alright for my contacts to not have astigmatism correction. I have just ordered contacts which are -2.25sph with no astigmatism, hopefully it goes well. Next time I'm going to increase the sph correction to -2.5sph though I think since I've been silly and dropped quite a lot. I appreciate your reply.
@@GemilyMez nah, I'm only 15 btw so my understanding of my eyesight might be a little off. I did my research though and quite a few people have said that astigmatism under +/-1 can be completely taken out of consideration if there are no problems so I'm just going to stick with no astigmatism correction. Thanks for your detailed response before though.
@@oboy2.077 that's fine. But if you are trying to follow the EndMyopia method to reverse myopia, you need to have a lower correction for close up work. This is key to the process. Most of us use weaker glasses for close up, but if you are using contacts you can create the same affect by using plus lenses over your contacts. This is nothing to do with your astigmatism. This is the first thing you do in EndMyopia: get differential glasses.
oh my god, you are so cute! And I love your humor so much....I have some questions for you...but I better wait until the end of the video with the 5 tips before I ask haha ;)
Did you have any questions left? I mean, in back to 20/20 I imagine you could go straight to the forum and get more learned feedback from Jakey, but I do enjoy applying my mind to the task of this EndMyopia journey.
@@GemilyMez I always have questions left ;) And I love that you enjoy trying to answer them! I really think you are such a good resource for anyone here on this journey. But in all seriousness, no I do not have any more questions at the moment. Though I do get excellent feedback from the Guru himself, sometimes he sort of guides me with the usual - "you must try for yourself young grasshopper" approach, which ultimately means I just need to learn to trust myself more with this process. I always appreciate your and other students' feedback who are at least ahead of me in terms of their progress on this journey. It makes me feel like I'm at least going in the right direction.
Thank you for the info! When we reduce the cyl for closeup glasses, I assume we are only doing it for close ups and not Distance lenses? We work on that seperately? Hope you understand?
@@GemilyMez Thank you! Love your videos btw! So do you mean get it to 0 on normalised before working on the differentials? Been trying to figure this out for weeks.
@@yinman2431 I mean, if you have -1 cyl, for example, then start with keeping -1 cyl in both differential and normalised glasses. Then, when you are ready, reduce your cyl in your differentials to -0.75. Next time you change your normalised (at least 6 weeks later), take the cyl in your normalised down to -0.75. Everything you do, take a step in your differentials, then copy that step with your normalised. Except for equalising. Equalising happens at the same time - 2 new pairs of glasses at once.
@@GemilyMez Many thanks Gemily, been folllowing your advice the past month and it works!! :) So we leave the Sph completely alone when we are changing the Cyl? I feel I should just get the cyl on on eyes to 0 then after carry on with reducing the Cyl...Also Jake said on his website to drop the astigmatism correction if you have less than 1 diopter of astigmatism. For you I believe you only dropped it when you got to -0.25 (sounds more gradual). If for example the left eye is -0.75 and the right eye is -1.00 can I just drop the left eye astigmatism but keep the right eye? ie. you can just have an astigmatism reading in only 1 eye. Or perhaps, shall I do what you did and only drop at -0.25. Hope you understand! Thank you for your advice!
I made my five year old read Snellen with his glasses which are -1 and -1.5 with astigmation correction he is able to read half of the letters in 6/5 line ..shall I consider this as an over prescription?..he is not reading separately from both the eyes for now. As Jake says having being able to read upto 20/40 or 20/30 is enough.
Can cylindrical pwer of 0.5 with 180° axis reduce by differential method ? Can horizontal astigmatism reduced? Can it be nullify with time ?, please answer i really want to know, some article say its reducible , some say cant reducible
Mem I have no shp value ..I have just astigmatism ..left cyl 1.25 and right cyl 1.now tell me .. am I need to wear glasses...If I not use glass ..have there any problm ?
You would know better than I do whether not wearing any cyl is a problem for you. It depends on how well can you see without it and whether you actually need it in order to function. But no, not wearing your glasses shouldn't cause any problems besides some blur. But this is just my understanding. I am not a medical professional.
It depends on what has caused your astigmatism, but most astigmatism does respond well to the EndMyopia method, so it is worth a try! Nothing to lose. :)
I'm enjoying your videos, well ,i got astigmatism in my both eyes, i always been suffering with my eyes since i was child , my parents said, it was only allergy, and in 2018 i got my first prescription, i got another one in 2021 and my astigmatism still the same, i got 180 axis in both eyes.. And 0.25 cyl... 0.75 cyl.. But what i don't understand somtimes along time ago i got very good vesion,,.. I'm searching now to know how happend very confused 🤔🙄
@@nouhbz7636 Then EndMyopia can help for both. A lot of people with myopia also have astigmatism. It is just small changes to your correction every 3 months, really. How you proceed depends on how complex your correction is. Of course I can't give diopter-specific advice, but if you tell me your glasses correction, I will have a better idea of what the process will look like for you and I can point you in the right direction.
I am really confused. I have 1.5 cyl so I should first reduce my sph and after my sph is reduced then I should reduce my cyl. Right? Correct me if I'm wrong. Love the glasses btw
You are right - as a general EndMyopia rule, do 2 binocular spherical reductions, so both eyes at once reducing by the same amount in each eye. After that you can start doing other sorts of adjustments. :)
Hi Gemily, Thanks for another wonderful video. My cylinder numbers are different and there's a 1.5 difference between the numbers. My OD number is -2.0 and my OS number is-0.5. On my current prescription, the number in the "PD" Column is 35.5 for each eye. When I decide to order a pair of differentials and a pair of normalised glasses, I add these numbers together and put 71 in the "PD" column on the Clearly glasses website? Due to my current financial situation, I was unable to accept Jake's invite to the back to 20/20 course after the 7 day free emails. So when you mention in your videos that you're an Endmyopia student, I'm thinking that you accepted the invitation to the back to 20/20 course? I will pay the money do the measuring course with the videos one day. Likewise, will one day make enquiries to see if I can do the back to 20/20 course as well.
Ooh, I have never heard of being given a Pupil Distance for each eye before! Usually it is a single number measuring from one pupil to the other when looking straight ahead. But 71 would be a reasonable pupil distance, so maybe your opto measured from the centre of your face?? I think 71 is a good guess then for your PD. You can check by measuring it yourself and seeing whether you get a similar number. You measure by getting a tape measure, looking in the mirror, closing one eye, placing the start of the tape measure directly above your pupil, then holding that there, swapping eyes, and finding what the measurement is directly above your second pupil. Just be careful you are not too close to the mirror or you will get a close up pupil distance (may be good for diffs?) not a normal distance PD. And no, I did not sign up for 20/20. let Rough Guide with the videos is all I have paid for, and I only bought that because it was quarantine so I didn't have to spend money on petrol, and I was seeing some exciting gains and wanted to thank Jake. Oh, and I wanted to know more about equalising. 😉
@@GemilyMez The Pupil Distance numbers were in a column "PD" on the Specsavers printed prescription that I got from them last week. I don't know if you got this when you rang Specsavers to get your glasses prescription after starting Endmyopia.
@@GemilyMez The way I discovered PD was when I went to Clearly glasses website to see what it would cost to get a pair of glasses through them. I chose a frame and went to the process of putting the information for OS and OD. That's when I saw PD.
Yessss after doing active focus for a while i see double vision from close n its becoming high .. i thought my astigmatism increased i was literally too much worried about it but now what i do to get rid of this double vision its not going away ???
Hi, Thanks for the video. My son 5 years has only astigmatism of -2 in both eyes. He is able to read 20/50. Should I make him wear -1.5 for both the eyes or if he wants to go without glasses is that also fine?
If he doesn't want to wear them, then don't make him wear them. At 5 his eyes are still growing, so if you make him wear them all the time, the eye will adapt to them instead of to the natural focal plane. Otherwise you could get some at a weaker correction for when/if he does want/need to wear them.
I have a question as i have high astigmatism my prescription is in left eye i have 1.25SPH and 2.5 astigmatism and in right eye i hqve 1.5 sph and 3.25 cyl so my question is should i reduce 1 or 1.5 dopter from both sph and cyl in my differentials ????or reduce olny spherical??plzzz answer as it help me alot
There is no absolute right answer - it depends on a lot of things that are individual to you, including where your astigmatism correction is all necessary or whether you are over prescribed. Because you have quite low sph, perhaps you could see what it feels like to do some close up without correction at all - can you read a book without your glasses? Or is there too much distortion? Does it give you a headache? Another consideration is how serious would it be if you bought differential glasses but then couldn't use them and had to get another pair? You can get glasses quite cheaply online, but some people doing this are high school students whose parents aren't willing to buy more glasses, so in that case if they can manage even to get a pair of differentials at all it is a big deal, and it could be harder to get a second pair of the first pair isn't correct. If this is similar to your case I would stick to just dropping sph to begin with at least for the first reduction, and address cyl on your second. If on the other hand you are in a position to get differentials with lowered sph AND lowered cyl, and risk it being totally too much for your eyes and brain and so have to try again with a new pair, then it may be worth it to try to drop some cyl in the first diffs.
Gemily Mez first if all thankyou soo much for your comment ant advice and yes i can read a book without glasses and it do not give me any headache ia am asking you about differentials is because when i am using my ipad without glasses i have to increase the brigntness a little bit and whenever i am reading any comment or reading something in the ipad i have to come closer to the ipad a little bit as with glasses i dont increase the bightness and i don't have to come closer and also i have not buy my first pair of normalize n differentials yet
Yeah, screens can be a little harder than paper because it is actually not black and white, but all sorts of combinations of red, green and blue light, so it is a bit more work for the brain.
Yeah, if you can go without any glasses for close up, then that's fine. Natural focal plane is usually good. Otherwise you could get diffs only with cyl correction, and no sph correction. Since no glasses at all doesn't cost you anything, you could just try that, and if that isn't working for you, you could then figure out what cyl correction you still need.
You're in BackTo20/20 though, so it may be that you know something I do not - perhaps with more guidance from the info Jake shares there, it is more possible to figure out what to drop too. *shrug* It only minimizes the risk of getting the correction wrong - your eyes would be just as happy with dropping astig. correction if you managed to get the right numbers, I would think, because it is just reducing the bubble. I'm sure your eyes have told you by now whether the differential correction is a good one. :)
@@GemilyMez Indeed. :) I know I must be so silly here, because I'm in the Back to 20/20 program and I question almost everything I do...lol. But I think it's just that I really want to get things right the first time as much as possible. But then, that also sort of takes out the fun of the discovery and the importance of trial and error in this whole process :) The differentials are working excellently, though.
@@DannyTillotson look at an animol for exemple a cat or a dog....see how he Is seeing the Word how he moves the head with thier eyes learn from them and see what u di wrong
Im kinda of confused. Am I supposed to leave the CYL and Axis alone until I drop my sphere then? My normal glasses are: Left: SPH: -4.25 CYL: -1.25 Axis:150 Right: SPH: -4.00 CYL: -1.25 Axis: 010 When getting differentials I can drop my sphere 0.75 and function great, I’m just not sure how to handle the astigmatism here.
This should explain: endmyopia.org/pro-topic-how-to-reduce-prescription-complexity/ You can reduce your cyl before you have reduced all your sph, but get the sph moving first before attempting cyl.
Oh, wow. That is a Positive Sph, so that is not myopia, but hyperopia or presbyopia. When you had lasik surgery, did you have good vision immediately, and then this astigmatism and hyper/presbyopia developed over time? Or was this the result of lasik surgery? If you had perfect vision after lasik, and this developed, I would imagine the EndMyopia method would be at least worth a try, even though there is no myopia correction in your prescription there.
@@ashishkurzekar9518 So you got a residual prescription of L- 0.25(cyl) and R -0.5(cyl) but now it is up to L -1.25(Cyl) and R-2.5(cyl) +1.5(Sph)t correct? If that is the case, then the surgery left a certain refraction, but the rest developed over time from your eye adjusting, I would imagine (I am not a doctor or optometrist or any kind of medical professional, by the way). I would think that any that developed over time at least would be reversible with the right stimulus and habits. That + sph.... Do you need that all the time, or only when reading? And did you need that immediately after the surgery, or has that developed since?
Hello my daughter is 9 years old she is having sphere of right eye -1and left .50 cylindrical right is -2and left -1 please tell me how can i reduce it
I love your personality! Thanks for explaining everything! I’m learning!
Came here after seeing your comment on the interview I did with Jake. Lovely channel! Nice vibes. Keep it up!
Thank you! ^_^
I had some problems reducing my astigmatism but +4 lenses helped me alot. As soon as I feel eyestrain or tiredness I just relax and wear my plus glasses for 3 minutes while staring into the wall or ceiling. It really relaxes all the muscles. Sometimes I had that evening spasm when I couldn't even sleep so plus helped me to release that spasm
is that +4 lens a spherical (SPH) +4?.I mean SPH +4 or CYL +4?
Thank you so much. I was wondering exactly how to begin and was over-complicating it on my own. Been looking at endmyopia for a few years, but only now am I feeling the NEED to do something.
You're welcome! I knew about EM for about a year before suddenly doing something about my eyesight felt urgent to me.
I'm pretty sure I just watched a cleverly devised long advertisement for "Clearly". Well done 👏
Haha. Have you seen my latest video? Perhaps even more like a long ad for clearly just based off all the glasses I have bought from them now that I have on display
😆
@@GemilyMez Hahaha! Wow! I just gave it a watch 🤣. Love seeing the progress you've made! For me I want to reduce astigmatism. I have CYL -2.5 in right and -3 in left. I've not been wearing glasses but every year it gets about -0.25 worse. Any idea how I can reverse this or stop it getting worse?
Hmm, it's getting worse without your wearing glasses. And it bothers you? As in, it is not just an optometrist telling you that you need astigmatism correction - you actually see the effects in your vision? I can't speak from my own experience here, so it is just what I would try if I were in that situation: very similar to the EM method, I would get glasses that were slightly undercorrected and use them to practice fusing the image, clearing the vision. I don't know if it will work, but that would be what I would do.
For what it’s worth, I like your clear glasses! As for someone who hasn’t seen you with other glasses on yet. I think the clear frames look great! And I want a clear pair now!
Gem,
You inspire people.
I just wish we could start at 20/50.
Then I can be successful.
I guesstimated my first differentials (sph went cyl) and dropped at least -0.5 cyl off each eye (started mid -1s cyl) and did not notice directional blur at a 75-90cm distance (preferred screen distance). It really is amazing that even in the moderate myopia moderate astigmatism range, how much less cylinder help you need in that shorter computer distance)
What advice do you have for Very high Astigmatisms cases ?
DIA:15.0 PWR:14.50 CYL: -4.25
AX:080
DIA:15.0 PWR:13.75 CYL: -4.25
AX:115
What's the best lens for me ?
16:48 I did Jake’s Back To 20/20 program and this is exactly what he recommended I do. :)
Yay! Thank you. :)
A Back to 20/20 program?
Why would we want to worsen our eyesight? Going back to 20/20 vision would cut my visual acuity in half. No thanks.
WHAT I DO:
If -1 D Cyl?
Convert to Spherical.
Divide by 2.
Therefore use -1/2 Spherical.
You will still have 20/20.
Astigmatism "correction" makes money for the OD.
it keeps you totally confused.
whats OD, can you please give me an example ?
@@adriangpuiu - OD = Optometrist.
Your editing skills are better than my grades.😃
Haha, I am learning more and more..
How on earth do you get prescription glasses with a 0.25 drop!?!?? Everyone requires a prescription. If you ask eye doctors to give you a prescription with a drop, they won't do it. They argue you can't fix astigmatism, and you need a higher prescription!!!
Hi,
I gave up on ODs.
Convert Cylinder, to spherical.
Then order glasses from Zennioptical for $25.
Works for me.
What a nice video Gemily! Thank you so much for this.
Thank you so much for your lovely comment.
I learned from your measurement efforts.
The best thing about the DIY course, is that we can get the chance to learn something new.
So much! (And reverse myopia too 😉).
I bought glasses online and my eye doctor checked them and told me the focal point was way off? What does this mean?
He makes money by office FIBS.
Nice video content 👌👍 👏👏👏 Gemily.
Keep going.
Thank you! 😃
What treatment options are there for high mixed astigmatism?
Hello my daughter is 9 years old she is having sphere of right eye -1and left .50 cylindrical right is -2and left -1
Hello Dear Madam
We Are Worried...
Please tell me how much time I can fix my vision....
How Can Improve My SYL -1.50 Eyesight 😭
please help me how can control my eyesight and remove glasses ????
I accepted glasses when I was young to cover up my dark circles. I fee ya!
yes girl....go for the clear ones...I love it haha
Haha, thank you. I have grown to really love them too - but they are currently sold out! Nooooo!
@@GemilyMez That's a shame :(
Hi Gemily
Of all the hyped up, and unnecessary, "prescription", it is for nornal cylinder. The FAA, does not require this measurement. Most eyes, with positive status, and mild, and normal cylinder - will self measure at 20/20.
I measure my own refraction, to avoid arguments about this issue with ODs.
Please try to avoid getting wrapped around the axle, on this subject.
Yes, and have you heard about the new (?) idea that a small amount of astigmatism is normal and actually useful for vision? Almost as though it were a feature of the eyes not a defect.... Interesting how there is so much desire to "fix" our eyes, which are so incredible without our "help".
You'll be pleased to know I have been checking in regularly with my Snellen. Now with my OD -1.75 OS -2.00 glasses I can read 20/20+5 (when I first started wearing them on 27th April I could only read 20/40 with them). 2 more weeks and I will be going down another step: equalising to -1.75 for both eyes. So excited for that - both the equalisation, and to have left the -2s altogether! Getting closer and closer to reading that Snellen without these lenses.
@@GemilyMez -
We have our own perspective.
Congratulations!
Could you please do a video on astigmatism blur and spherical blur ?
What does your eye doctor think about playing with your prescriptions? Astigmatism is caused by the shape of the eye. How does changing the prescriptions going to change the shape of the eye? Only contacts have been show to be able to do that some. Entertaining but confusing and I been wearing glasses 40 years and one cataract surgery which gave me 20/20 in that eye and no astigmatism. Other eye still the same. So glasses the one lens is just no prescription.
Another great video and so well edited. I haven't cylinder issue but I found interesting your advices. 👍
Well, not having any cylinder issues is excellent! Hooray! :D Thanks for your encouraging comment. ^_^
Astigmatism "correction" is almost never necessary!
Just say, NONE FOR ME.
I have .25 and .5 astigmatism, no sph power but i still get eye strain a lot
Should i use my eyeglasses for near use only or should i use them all the time ?
Only for distance
Hi, Have you done a video where you have listed the progressive reduction of your prescription in the form of an excel spreadsheet or table, where the list includes all those prescriptions that you have ordered?
Gem has a video of all her glasses.
I reduced to 0.0 Diopters.
Cylinder.
How????pls tell me
How?? Pls tell me
Oh good. This Astigmatisms things has indeed confused me a bit. I never had that, till my very last prescription, which gave me a 0.25 on my left eye. So I never really bothered, to find out, what it actually is. Can’t say, I ever noticed any kind of double vision, either...so maybe I was misdiagnosed on that.
Because....I followed the advice on the seven day email thingy and ordered my first pair of differentials at -1,5 below my normal prescription (which I double checked with the measurement tape, of course), but added 0,25 diopter on the left side, while dropping the astigmatism. Cause that’s what it explicitly said to do in the mail.
So I went from -4 to -2,5 on the right and -2,75 to -1,5 on the left.
Only my right eye is slightly, but noticeably weaker with those glasses now (because of that correction, presumably) so I‘m not sure, if they’ll even work for practicing active focus. But then, they’re too ‚strong‘ overall anyway...I don’t experience any real blurriness on either side till things are between 1-1,5 m away (depending on time of day/lighting). Bummer!
Guess, I‘ll just bite the bullet and order new ones at -2,25 and 1,0 respectively. That should give me even vision and blurriness at the appropriate distance.
Seems you‘re spot on and one shouldn’t mess with both measurements at once!
I am intrigued that you replaced -0.25 of cyl with 0.25 sph. I think 0.5 cyl translates to 0.25 sph, so you may have indeed made your left eye a little stronger than required. Have you bought your new weaker diffs yet? Whatever diffs you are on, how are they feeling now?
Gemily Mez
Yes, you’re correct, I checked my notes again and I actually had -0,5 cyl., not 0,25. With 0,25 you would indeed be supposed to just drop the cylinder without any modifications.
I didn’t get around to ordering new glasses before my holiday, of course (lol). I just bought a couple of disposable contact lenses in different strengths and will play around with those a bit, to determine the best strength for me.
Hello mam
I'm 13 years old almost 14
It's been 3 years since I am wearing glasses
I have very high prescription and its change only in 1 month again, Now it's -
Right eye
Sph= -3.00
Cyl= -0.50
Axis= 10
Left eye
Sph= -3.00
Cyl= -0.50
Axis= 170
Still don't know see enough clear
I don't know what to do
I only want 20/20 vision
Please help me...
Sorry for bad English
I'm an Indian..
how's your eyes?
Hello my daughter is 9 years old she is having sphere of right eye -1and left .50 cylindrical right is -2and left -1 please tell me how can i reduce it
i cant see things that is more than 14 inchest away from one of my eye but i have never worn glasses do i just have muscle spasm ir do i still have myopia?
also i hadden been able to see that well in a long time and my other eye i can see perfectly fine
It could be many things. I couldn't possible tell you. I advise you go and see an opthalmologist to find out why one eye doesn't have good vision. It seems like a very short distance if it were just spasm. It could be myopia, but why it would be so bad in one eye if you have never worn glasses I couldn't say. It could be something completely different. And I am no medical professional. Go get it checked out by a professional. If they say it is myopia, then you can see if something can be done, but unless you know what it is you're wasting your time asking people on the internet. Book an appointment.
ok thanks
I have only RE cyl -1.50 and LE -1.25 no sph which to reduce and how much
Do not bother with cylinder.
Never required.
Work on getting to 20/60.
My , 0.50 sperical 4.75 is cylendrcal in right eye.
Left 1.50 sperical 5.25 is cylendrcal.
Plese sister telle what I reduce first
Hi mam,
I am 19, When i went to my doctor for the exam he write +0.50 on both on priscription (Sheprical) in Far sighted what does it mean can a no. Be in plus for kids(he didn't write in near add ) he said you need spherical but i got blurry in some angles please help me to know what that plus sign means as i am 19 why it was not in - ve
As per wiki, as your cyclinder was less than -1, you wont need cylinder correction in differntial correct?
Correct!
What do you do when one eye is -4 SPH and the other is +0.25 SPH? The farsighted eye is so messed up with congenital grainy non-correctable amblyopia that I don't want to try to fix it (I doubt it can be fixed), I just want to reduce the -4. Can you reduce the diopters on one eye without touching the other when they are so completely different? They both have astigmatism (-1.25 and -2.00, respectively) but I'm not worried about changing that just yet, after watching this video. Thank you.
I have been diagnosed with astigmatism at age of 6. No sph on left eye and - 0.5 on the right eye. Cyls are -2.75 and -2.5. The doctor said I was born with astigmatism, can that still be fixed? Thanks.
An answer I can't find is do you reduce axis with the cylinder value? If so, is it by a certain standard? Like .25 is the conservative drop for spherical and cylinder, would 10° be the drop for axis?
You can try to confirm your axis with some free tools mentioned on the EM site, but axis is not something you'd try to change once you know it (think about the dial on a clock)
You are my hero.
❤❤❤❤
How do you reverse the vision stretching of astigmatism though, does that happen naturally when you do end myopia or does it just affect the doubling ? Because the visual distortion is what really affects my life not the doubling.
I feel depressed because of my eyesight
I understand that. I used to too. What is your eye sight like?
@@GemilyMez left -1.75 and right is -2
Me too.
@@Raj0307 hey, thats better than alot of people, dont worry. Anything up to -3.00 is considered mild myopia it is not that bad. Me myself I have a prescription of -3.25 in both eyes dony worry dude
Same :(
Any starting advice I have -7 and -3.25 cylindrical . I mean any impt step up want to tell . I will be happy to be helped
Leave your cylinder and axis as they are to begin with. And start by getting "differential" glasses.
Have you read Jake's free 7 day email guide yet? endmyopia.org/7-day-e-mail-guide-sign-up-page/
@@GemilyMez yeah I have read it thnks
so Mrs. Astigma what about the nonstructure course by spherical or axis drops or add, but do acupuncture to the points below the eyes. In other words what if the tensions of the brain are transferred into the eye and the body or the muscle response. In other words, is this more anatomical or body, or is it about the mind, like using eyeglasses that show everything upside down, then later it reverses but after you take off the so-called differentials stuff off then everything appears upside down until your eyes normalized.
Just discovered your channel, along with endmyopia :)
Started wearing my last prescription (I just thought to start ASAP) now instead of the current OD prescribed one which is higher.
But the thing is that my prev prescription has both sph and cyl less than the new once, should I keep wearing them?
@@vedikapainjane3591 A few things to ask yourself - how does it feel when you wear them? How different are they from your previous correction? And are they balanced with your more recent correction - so have both eyes gone up by the same amount, or has one eye changed more than the other? I would take care with that, but it is quite possible that your old correction could work for you. More important than having a lower correction for daily use is having a lower correction for close up work - lower by about 1.5 - 2 diopters. That's more important than getting your full correction off your face for distance/normal vision.
@@GemilyMez I stopped wearing them, the difference in one eye was too great (both sph and cyl) so it was making my head ache, waiting for my differentials (strict lockdown restarted in my area). The other eye was perfect, but I am gonna buy the differentials first, almost done with the 7 day subscription of endmyopia :)
Hi Gemily
I am a big fan of your videos, it's really helpful, I would like to ask you about differential and normalized glasses, should I switch to normalized every 20 minutes when taking breaks I got my first differential three days ago & I have a headache is it because of too much switching.
Hey there! Yeah, I change into my normalised when I have my breaks, because I look into the distance and let my ciliary muscle relax, and there is not much point looking out into blur. Your ciliary may not even relax if you brain can't work out what distance it is meant to be aiming for.
You say you just got your differentials 3 days ago, so I assume that when you say "normalised" you are using your original full-correction glasses? (that's good).
It's true that our brains aren't made for focal plane switching, but for different distances, switching between the 2 should be okay. But look, it's possible that it is the switching, but my first guess would actually be the differentials themselves:
sometimes it takes a few days to get used to them, and some people get some headaches. If the headaches continue for too long though, my next thing I would do, if it were me, would be to check my differential correction - maybe it is too weak, or maybe you adjusted cylinder when you shouldn't have, or maybe the ratio between your eyes in your differentials is different from the ratio between your eyes in your full glasses.
So a few options. The switching could be it, but not the most likely in my opinion. I hope your headaches go away so you don't have to mess about with details too much. But if you do need to change you differential correction that is a bit of a pain, but the first pair of differentials is always a bit of a guess. Once you get them right, stepping down will get easier from there.
Gemily how much was your astigmatism before correcting them
Clear frames are great on u ma'am!
Thank you! That's lucky! My next pair of glasses have black frames but are the same as some clear frames I have (the round ones) and I tried them on and, after all this time in clear frames now, the black frames were suddenly really visible and annoying! My brain wasn't ignoring them anymore! So I think when I am I ready for those, I will pop the lenses of them out and swap the lenses into the clear frames I have that are the same shape.
Nice video!
Thanks.
Mam i have a problem that i see Jake's video and start doing active focus. I do active focus for 12 days and also completely stop using phone or laptop, so my myopia starts reducing ... But my astigmatism starts increasing. Now what can i do... Plzzzzzz reply
Usually this is not actual astigmatism. It can be a sort of transient astigmatism as the eye is in the process of changing, or it can be the blur starting to clear up and becoming double vision. Just keep going. You're on the right track!
Bro your double vision reslove or not bro
I started experiencing fuzziness when looking at devices screens last year. As I work mostly on computers, I booked an eye test and I was diagnosed with astigmatism along with some near sighted and far sighted. After the appointment I was prescribed with glasses to correct the issues all on one pair of lenses, however I feel like the fuzziness 😊n electronic devices didn’t get that much better, should it make the issue much better?
I have myopia with astigmatism,my question is can active focus reduce astigmatism no. ??? Or only active focus reduces spherical no. only
In the short term, astigmatism can be more of a challenge if you are trying to clear things up with active focus.
But long term, your good habits and active focus should help to improve your astigmatism too.
Hi Gemily I am your new subscriber, l have only cylindrical correction of power minus 1.75 , can active focus help me to get rid of it please reply
Hey! can i just not include any spherical on my lenses? I only want to put myopia.
spherical is myopia correction.
cylinder is astigmatism correction, and axis is which direction the cylinder correction needs to go.
Glasses can have only spherical for myopia, but no cylinder. That is perfectly possible.
@@GemilyMezI now have -3.25 in both eyes
2 years ago my eye doctor prescribed me:
OD
SPH: -3.25
CYL
is -0.75
My OS.
SPH: -3.50
CYL
Is -0.50
This was in my original prescriptions 2 years ago
But I heard that having CYL below -1 doesn’t matter and you should just drop it. I’m very new to this and I have bought my glasses off of Amazon. And since both my eyes were so close. I just dropped one side by .25 SPH.
I seriously can’t tell the difference with the CYL
Hi, ma'am,
I am a great fan of yours😊.I am not asking for dioptre specific advice ,but want to clear some general doubts regarding dioptre reductions for astigmatism .
My eye measurements are :
On right eye:
Sph:-4.25 and Cyl:-1.25
On left eye:
Sph:-5.00 and Cyl:-1.75
So if I want to make my first cyl reduction after 2 sph which one among the below should I do:
1.Just keep the sph as such and simply drop 0.5 diopters of cyl on both eyes.
OR
2. Simply drop 0.5 diopters of cyl on both eyes and add 0.25 D of sph on both eyes to compensate for that.
Which among the 2 methods is the correct way of cyl reduction?
And if u give me option 1 or 2 as the answer, when should I use the other method? (2 or 1 according to ur answer)
Option 1 is not something I would do (although it might work for some people).
As I see it, your options are:
1. Just drop 0.25 of cyl and leave sph as it is, or
2. Drop 0.5 of cyl and increase sph by 0.25.
If it were me, I would just drop 0.25 cyl and see how it went. I would be more tempted to swap cyl into sph if I had more cyl than sph (it is good to get rid of cyl before the final diopter).
Hope it goes well!
@@GemilyMez So what you would do is for each cyl reduction, (if ur cyl is less than sph) you would simply drop 0.25 cyl from both eyes and keep the sph as it is . Am I right?
Yep.
@@GemilyMez Thank you🥰
@@GemilyMez Just one more doubt. I am sry😅. So while making the cylinder reductions , I have read that we need to keep the axes the same (here's the link to it- drive.google.com/file/d/0B5REdzibAJQ4VFJuWnZCU3dLcHc/view) . Is this true? So when should we actually reduce the axis during the entire process?
My right eye power is 5.50 with 1.5 cyl, and left eye is 7.0 with cyl 1.5 what should I normalised first?????? plz tell me
This video is very informative, do you think this would work for people with very high prescriptions like over -10-13 ?
High myopia or high astigmatism? And yeah, I can't make any guarantees, but plenty of people are following the EndMyopia method who have high corrections and it is working. I think the highest person following it that I know started with -18.
@@GemilyMez to answer your question, mild astigmatism and oh wow thats awesome to hear, maybe I should try this next time I order glasses
I love your advanced box technology at 6:35, is this active focus?
And the dual screen technology at 7:30
I agree with your sis about the clear glasses! it looks cute
High techy techy.
That's 2 votes for cute, 1 vote for nope so far then. 👍
@@GemilyMez -
I love it when you keep that "myopia causing minus lens", off your face, when making this video!!
I have low astigmatism, not that much. Do you know if it is alright for me to wear 'regular' spherical contacts instead of toric contact lenses. And if I use regular lenses that do not correct astigmatism, will my astigmatism gradually improve due to less reliability on correction?
Ooh, that is a tricky one. How low is your astigmatism? If it is only -0.25 then dropping it for contacts would be a fine reduction (assuming you left sph the same), but dropping some cyl and some sph could be challenging, and dropping cyl on your first reduction can be inadvisable as it is more of a challenge to clear that sph.... are the toric contacts more expensive? And are they not dailies? (these are reasons I can think of as to why you might be eager to drop the cyl early in your journey). Some ideas to consider:
1) don't drop any cyl. Just continue with the toric lenses while you reduce your sph a couple of times first.
2) replace your cyl with sph (it would mean some axes would be over corrected, but none would be undercorrted) and let your brain/eye adjust to the new "layout" without the added blur challenge, and then after a few months for your eyes to adapt to that, start reducing with your new simplified sph-only correction (use +1.5ish glasses over your contacts to make a differential)
3) Keep your current contacts and use +0.25 glasses over the top to create a normalised correction (and maybe later +0.5s) so you don't have to get new contacts until you are ready to drop the cyl. This would make sense if your toric lenses are not dailies and are expensive. Also, the simple +0.25 and +0.5 could come in handy once you get to your final diopter to use as differentials at times.
Of course, I am not an optometrist or medical professional. These are just some ideas for you to consider and make your own decision.
@@GemilyMez Thanks for the response. My sph is -3.00 in both eyes with -0.75 cyl in both eyes. The thing is, I had the same astigmatism prescribed to me 2 years ago and both my glasses and contacts were given to me by my eye doctor with no astigmatism so I'm assuming its alright for my contacts to not have astigmatism correction. I have just ordered contacts which are -2.25sph with no astigmatism, hopefully it goes well. Next time I'm going to increase the sph correction to -2.5sph though I think since I've been silly and dropped quite a lot. I appreciate your reply.
@@oboy2.077 do you have +1.25 or +1.5 glasses to wear over your contact for close up?
@@GemilyMez nah, I'm only 15 btw so my understanding of my eyesight might be a little off. I did my research though and quite a few people have said that astigmatism under +/-1 can be completely taken out of consideration if there are no problems so I'm just going to stick with no astigmatism correction. Thanks for your detailed response before though.
@@oboy2.077 that's fine. But if you are trying to follow the EndMyopia method to reverse myopia, you need to have a lower correction for close up work. This is key to the process. Most of us use weaker glasses for close up, but if you are using contacts you can create the same affect by using plus lenses over your contacts. This is nothing to do with your astigmatism. This is the first thing you do in EndMyopia: get differential glasses.
Superb😘
Why thank you.
oh my god, you are so cute! And I love your humor so much....I have some questions for you...but I better wait until the end of the video with the 5 tips before I ask haha ;)
Did you have any questions left? I mean, in back to 20/20 I imagine you could go straight to the forum and get more learned feedback from Jakey, but I do enjoy applying my mind to the task of this EndMyopia journey.
@@GemilyMez I always have questions left ;) And I love that you enjoy trying to answer them! I really think you are such a good resource for anyone here on this journey. But in all seriousness, no I do not have any more questions at the moment. Though I do get excellent feedback from the Guru himself, sometimes he sort of guides me with the usual - "you must try for yourself young grasshopper" approach, which ultimately means I just need to learn to trust myself more with this process. I always appreciate your and other students' feedback who are at least ahead of me in terms of their progress on this journey. It makes me feel like I'm at least going in the right direction.
Thank you for the info! When we reduce the cyl for closeup glasses, I assume we are only doing it for close ups and not Distance lenses? We work on that seperately? Hope you understand?
Yes, differentials (close up) first, normalised about 6 weeks later. Think if differentials as your training ground for your normalised.
@@GemilyMez Thank you! Love your videos btw! So do you mean get it to 0 on normalised before working on the differentials? Been trying to figure this out for weeks.
@@yinman2431 I mean, if you have -1 cyl, for example, then start with keeping -1 cyl in both differential and normalised glasses. Then, when you are ready, reduce your cyl in your differentials to -0.75. Next time you change your normalised (at least 6 weeks later), take the cyl in your normalised down to -0.75.
Everything you do, take a step in your differentials, then copy that step with your normalised.
Except for equalising. Equalising happens at the same time - 2 new pairs of glasses at once.
@@GemilyMez Many thanks Gemily, been folllowing your advice the past month and it works!! :) So we leave the Sph completely alone when we are changing the Cyl? I feel I should just get the cyl on on eyes to 0 then after carry on with reducing the Cyl...Also Jake said on his website to drop the astigmatism correction if you have less than 1 diopter of astigmatism. For you I believe you only dropped it when you got to -0.25 (sounds more gradual). If for example the left eye is -0.75 and the right eye is -1.00 can I just drop the left eye astigmatism but keep the right eye? ie. you can just have an astigmatism reading in only 1 eye. Or perhaps, shall I do what you did and only drop at -0.25. Hope you understand! Thank you for your advice!
I made my five year old read Snellen with his glasses which are -1 and -1.5 with astigmation correction he is able to read half of the letters in 6/5 line ..shall I consider this as an over prescription?..he is not reading separately from both the eyes for now.
As Jake says having being able to read upto 20/40 or 20/30 is enough.
For astigmatism how i reduce lens power in seprate glassess are with myopia please reply sista
Can cylindrical pwer of 0.5 with 180° axis reduce by differential method ? Can horizontal astigmatism reduced? Can it be nullify with time ?, please answer i really want to know, some article say its reducible , some say cant reducible
It depends on the cause of your astigmatism. If it is less than one, like yours, then usually yes, it can be solved completely.
Mem I have no shp value ..I have just astigmatism ..left cyl 1.25 and right cyl 1.now tell me .. am I need to wear glasses...If I not use glass ..have there any problm ?
You would know better than I do whether not wearing any cyl is a problem for you. It depends on how well can you see without it and whether you actually need it in order to function. But no, not wearing your glasses shouldn't cause any problems besides some blur. But this is just my understanding. I am not a medical professional.
I have 4.5 astigmatism in my both eye but not have spc. Number so endmyopia can reduce it
It depends on what has caused your astigmatism, but most astigmatism does respond well to the EndMyopia method, so it is worth a try! Nothing to lose. :)
I'm enjoying your videos, well ,i got astigmatism in my both eyes, i always been suffering with my eyes since i was child , my parents said, it was only allergy, and in 2018 i got my first prescription, i got another one in 2021 and my astigmatism still the same, i got 180 axis in both eyes.. And 0.25 cyl... 0.75 cyl.. But what i don't understand somtimes along time ago i got very good vesion,,.. I'm searching now to know how happend very confused 🤔🙄
Hi gemily i see double because of astigmatism 😔 any solution please ?
Do you also have short sightedness, or just astigmatism? Do you have glasses for your astigmatism?
Gemily Mez yes i have shortsightedness and i have glasses for astigmatism
@@nouhbz7636 Then EndMyopia can help for both. A lot of people with myopia also have astigmatism. It is just small changes to your correction every 3 months, really. How you proceed depends on how complex your correction is. Of course I can't give diopter-specific advice, but if you tell me your glasses correction, I will have a better idea of what the process will look like for you and I can point you in the right direction.
I am really confused.
I have 1.5 cyl so I should first reduce my sph and after my sph is reduced then I should reduce my cyl. Right?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Love the glasses btw
You are right - as a general EndMyopia rule, do 2 binocular spherical reductions, so both eyes at once reducing by the same amount in each eye. After that you can start doing other sorts of adjustments. :)
Hi Gemily,
Thanks for another wonderful video. My cylinder numbers are different and there's a 1.5 difference between the numbers. My OD number is -2.0 and my OS number is-0.5. On my current prescription, the number in the "PD" Column is 35.5 for each eye. When I decide to order a pair of differentials and a pair of normalised glasses, I add these numbers together and put 71 in the "PD" column on the Clearly glasses website? Due to my current financial situation, I was unable to accept Jake's invite to the back to 20/20 course after the 7 day free emails. So when you mention in your videos that you're an Endmyopia student, I'm thinking that you accepted the invitation to the back to 20/20 course? I will pay the money do the measuring course with the videos one day. Likewise, will one day make enquiries to see if I can do the back to 20/20 course as well.
Ooh, I have never heard of being given a Pupil Distance for each eye before! Usually it is a single number measuring from one pupil to the other when looking straight ahead. But 71 would be a reasonable pupil distance, so maybe your opto measured from the centre of your face?? I think 71 is a good guess then for your PD. You can check by measuring it yourself and seeing whether you get a similar number. You measure by getting a tape measure, looking in the mirror, closing one eye, placing the start of the tape measure directly above your pupil, then holding that there, swapping eyes, and finding what the measurement is directly above your second pupil. Just be careful you are not too close to the mirror or you will get a close up pupil distance (may be good for diffs?) not a normal distance PD.
And no, I did not sign up for 20/20. let Rough Guide with the videos is all I have paid for, and I only bought that because it was quarantine so I didn't have to spend money on petrol, and I was seeing some exciting gains and wanted to thank Jake. Oh, and I wanted to know more about equalising. 😉
@@GemilyMez The Pupil Distance numbers were in a column "PD" on the Specsavers printed prescription that I got from them last week. I don't know if you got this when you rang Specsavers to get your glasses prescription after starting Endmyopia.
@@trevortroutbeck1939 no, they didn't give that to me, I don't think. At the time, I didn't even know what it was, so didn't think to ask for it.
@@GemilyMez The way I discovered PD was when I went to Clearly glasses website to see what it would cost to get a pair of glasses through them. I chose a frame and went to the process of putting the information for OS and OD. That's when I saw PD.
Yessss after doing active focus for a while i see double vision from close n its becoming high .. i thought my astigmatism increased i was literally too much worried about it but now what i do to get rid of this double vision its not going away ???
This may be a helpful exercise.
endmyopia.org/how-to-improve-night-vision-advanced-topic/
Hi, Thanks for the video. My son 5 years has only astigmatism of -2 in both eyes. He is able to read 20/50. Should I make him wear -1.5 for both the eyes or if he wants to go without glasses is that also fine?
If he doesn't want to wear them, then don't make him wear them. At 5 his eyes are still growing, so if you make him wear them all the time, the eye will adapt to them instead of to the natural focal plane. Otherwise you could get some at a weaker correction for when/if he does want/need to wear them.
@@GemilyMez my son of 5 years has got astigmatism. Cyl - 3. Dr advised to wear spectacles for whole life. Can u give me some suggestions?
Can you tell me what you make with your son because my son has the same astigmatism too ?
I have a question as i have high astigmatism my prescription is in left eye i have 1.25SPH and 2.5 astigmatism and in right eye i hqve 1.5 sph and 3.25 cyl so my question is should i reduce 1 or 1.5 dopter from both sph and cyl in my differentials ????or reduce olny spherical??plzzz answer as it help me alot
There is no absolute right answer - it depends on a lot of things that are individual to you, including where your astigmatism correction is all necessary or whether you are over prescribed. Because you have quite low sph, perhaps you could see what it feels like to do some close up without correction at all - can you read a book without your glasses? Or is there too much distortion? Does it give you a headache? Another consideration is how serious would it be if you bought differential glasses but then couldn't use them and had to get another pair? You can get glasses quite cheaply online, but some people doing this are high school students whose parents aren't willing to buy more glasses, so in that case if they can manage even to get a pair of differentials at all it is a big deal, and it could be harder to get a second pair of the first pair isn't correct. If this is similar to your case I would stick to just dropping sph to begin with at least for the first reduction, and address cyl on your second. If on the other hand you are in a position to get differentials with lowered sph AND lowered cyl, and risk it being totally too much for your eyes and brain and so have to try again with a new pair, then it may be worth it to try to drop some cyl in the first diffs.
Gemily Mez first if all thankyou soo much for your comment ant advice and yes i can read a book without glasses and it do not give me any headache ia am asking you about differentials is because when i am using my ipad without glasses i have to increase the brigntness a little bit and whenever i am reading any comment or reading something in the ipad i have to come closer to the ipad a little bit as with glasses i dont increase the bightness and i don't have to come closer and also i have not buy my first pair of normalize n differentials yet
Yeah, screens can be a little harder than paper because it is actually not black and white, but all sorts of combinations of red, green and blue light, so it is a bit more work for the brain.
Gemily Mez can u plzz advice me that should i use differentials aur not because i can see without glasses preety good???
Yeah, if you can go without any glasses for close up, then that's fine. Natural focal plane is usually good. Otherwise you could get diffs only with cyl correction, and no sph correction. Since no glasses at all doesn't cost you anything, you could just try that, and if that isn't working for you, you could then figure out what cyl correction you still need.
很棒的講解
oops...I reduced the cylinder with the first diffs....:/
You're in BackTo20/20 though, so it may be that you know something I do not - perhaps with more guidance from the info Jake shares there, it is more possible to figure out what to drop too. *shrug* It only minimizes the risk of getting the correction wrong - your eyes would be just as happy with dropping astig. correction if you managed to get the right numbers, I would think, because it is just reducing the bubble. I'm sure your eyes have told you by now whether the differential correction is a good one. :)
@@GemilyMez Indeed. :) I know I must be so silly here, because I'm in the Back to 20/20 program and I question almost everything I do...lol. But I think it's just that I really want to get things right the first time as much as possible. But then, that also sort of takes out the fun of the discovery and the importance of trial and error in this whole process :) The differentials are working excellently, though.
I reduced.25 without glasses idk how 😂 i was -3
Well that's great!
Is that -3 to -0.25 or are you saying -3 to -2.75? How long did it take to see this result?
@@DannyTillotson to -2.75 of astighmatism
@@ilcorvo980 wow that's great! How long did that take? What have you been doing to reverse it please? I have astigmatism too -2.5
@@DannyTillotson look at an animol for exemple a cat or a dog....see how he Is seeing the Word how he moves the head with thier eyes learn from them and see what u di wrong
I have to disagree with your husband. Your new glasses are very attractive on you. :)
You're like an Australian Kristen Schaal.
haha, I can see that. 😆
Wow good jop and good video #foundertv
Hey, I'm from Portugal (Europe)... where can I order my differentials? I want to start a journey as well
You’re so beautiful 😍
You're so sweet.
Hey you need some help in running this channel
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Im kinda of confused. Am I supposed to leave the CYL and Axis alone until I drop my sphere then? My normal glasses are:
Left: SPH: -4.25 CYL: -1.25 Axis:150
Right: SPH: -4.00 CYL: -1.25 Axis: 010
When getting differentials I can drop my sphere 0.75 and function great, I’m just not sure how to handle the astigmatism here.
This should explain:
endmyopia.org/pro-topic-how-to-reduce-prescription-complexity/
You can reduce your cyl before you have reduced all your sph, but get the sph moving first before attempting cyl.
I have
Left -- -1.25(Cyl)
Right-- -2.5(cyl) +1.5(Sph)
What should i do . I got this correction after having lasik surgery.
Oh, wow. That is a Positive Sph, so that is not myopia, but hyperopia or presbyopia. When you had lasik surgery, did you have good vision immediately, and then this astigmatism and hyper/presbyopia developed over time? Or was this the result of lasik surgery?
If you had perfect vision after lasik, and this developed, I would imagine the EndMyopia method would be at least worth a try, even though there is no myopia correction in your prescription there.
@@GemilyMez yes after lasik i got residual prescriptions of L- 0.25(cyl) and R -0.5(cyl)
@@GemilyMez please maam help me out i am very much depressed from my prescription
@@ashishkurzekar9518 So you got a residual prescription of L- 0.25(cyl) and R -0.5(cyl)
but now it is up to L -1.25(Cyl)
and
R-2.5(cyl) +1.5(Sph)t correct? If that is the case, then the surgery left a certain refraction, but the rest developed over time from your eye adjusting, I would imagine (I am not a doctor or optometrist or any kind of medical professional, by the way). I would think that any that developed over time at least would be reversible with the right stimulus and habits. That + sph.... Do you need that all the time, or only when reading? And did you need that immediately after the surgery, or has that developed since?
@@GemilyMez spherical plus not needed.
The solution is : NOFAP
Not a clue what she is on about
You have no clue what I am on about, or I have no clue what I am on about?
Hello my daughter is 9 years old she is having sphere of right eye -1and left .50 cylindrical right is -2and left -1 please tell me how can i reduce it