My mom taught in a community where it was not unheard of for young girls to be married overseas. Since the marriage was legally binding in a foreign country, the United States would then honor it here (or at least overlook it), as well. It didn't help that the girls were often covered due to their conservative cultures, so many "outsiders" didn't realize how young some of these wives actually were. My mom would come home so angry because there was one year that she taught a 12 year old girl whose 40 something year old husband had gotten her pregnant. My mom cried a lot for her and was afraid that, once the girl was no longer as appealing to her husband after having a couple of kids, that he would divorce her, cast her off, and move on to a new, younger model of wife, since he had apparently done that at least once already. In that case, she would be left at his mercy as a "used" woman with virtually no education and a couple of kids to raise, so her future looked pretty bleak.
My mother in law worked maternity for 38 years in a county hospital. One of the cases that stuck with her ( and led to her working pediatric maternity as an np) was a pregnant 9 year old refugee " bride". No, she did not survive. Her uterus ruptured when she went into preterm labor at home because of course the husband was worried about a man touching his child bride. He called a squad when the bleeding started to get obviously bad. She died not 10 minutes after arriving and no the baby didn't make it either. She saw the same man again in a couple of years with his slightly older 12 year old pregnant wife. At least this time he got her prenatal care instead of waiting for a catastrophe. Sadly this wasn't the youngest she saw or the last just the first and most notable.
@@evil1by1 that's so sad. It never ceases to amaze me how many "developed" nations like to set themselves on pedestals as paragons of human rights virtue, yet so few of their people actually pay attention to the atrocities that are being committed right in their own communities.
@@dixie0625 I don't understand how authority just looks the other way when the word " marriage" is spoken like it's a talisman that bestows adulthood on all who utter it. She was 9, she deserved better than that. Her case is what cause my mil to go the route she did. As she puts it- she can't change whatever circumstances led to this child being pregnant but she can do everything in her power to make this as safe and respectful as possible. I couldn't do it, but she did for decades. Not all were victims, plenty of typical teen pregnancies but even they deserve respect and love- not more judgement and condemnation.
Forced marriages should absolutely be banned, but I'm not sure how that would play out. We'd def have to set up systems in place as checks and balances esp for those who are over 18, and it may be therefore harder to prove a wrong even with a law banning child marriages. It's complicated, but 100% necessary. My grandparents married at 16. They actually ran away to do it. Their marriage was good. But perhaps it would be better to have systems in place to protect those children who aren't choosing marriage in love (esp since teens don't have fully developed brains yet anyway) by stopping all child marriages than to allow such awful abuse to continue to occur. The 16 yr olds can wait 2 years. And I see the escaping abuse argument. But you know what is a more common story than "my marriage to escape my abusive father was good?" It's this "I went from parental abuse to spousal abuse."
Thank you so much for your good work. Thank you for mentioning that there is so much we do not know happening right in front of us. Thank you for saying that words have meaning and power and images and manipulation are everywhere. We do have to know things we never wanted to know in order to make changes, and this is all happening now, all at the same time. So, thank you for picking up your piece of it and doing such a great job at it. Here is to all the babies and the humans who never had a chance to have reasonable expectations about life. We have to keep fighting also, for those children who are being trafficked. There are many people in dire situations. This is unacceptable. We must recreate a society worthy of this beautiful earth we are sitting on. It's time to set aside our differences and work together on everything we can agree on and stop allowing ourselves to be distracted from the big picture. Look over here, look over there! Here's a new concept/word to argue about. We will give this concept/word to side A and it will mean one thing and then to side B, it will mean another. They will both be thinking about the horror of their believed version of reality and nair the two shall meet to discuss anything. Meanwhile, children are suffering because this place is not what we think it is. We have work to do in every area of human life right now. We have to hit them where it hurts, policy, legislation, and litigation. I would attribute 70% of the stress in society these days, to straight-up manipulation. We don't need to live this way anymore. Thanks for being one who sees and has the ferocity of spirit to say something and step into it fully. A child is a child and we must work for them. May we persevere.
My only disagreement with a lot that is presented here is simple. I was an emancipated minor at 15. I could do practically every legal thing with contracts, etc. Really different for me as a male. My other question would be why not ask about the process and not just what is going on. The process where a marriage is being planned but no one has requirements to review the petition before it occurs. I am honestly bothered about what you are talking about.
Forced marriage should definitely be banned. Child marriage under 16 should be banned, and if he/she wants to marry and is over 16: A) The spouse must be no more than 5 years older B) Both parents and a judge must consent to the marriage C) The teen should consent to their marriage. They should do it away from their parents and with a social services person so they can say if they don't want to marry. D) The teen must remain in school
I'm not way supporting child marriage, but sometimes marriage is a way out of abuse. My auntie got married at 15 and has been married for 56 years. Her father was abusive so marrying her 21 year old boyfriend seemed like a way out. These situations are very complicated and easy to judge from the outside. Now young women have more options, but in the 60s they didn't. This wasn't the only teen marriage in my family, two other women married before the age of 18.
We shouldn't think that something is ok, because of some anecdotal evidence. There should be different ways for her to get out of abusive relationships than marriage. The system failed her, but her way out still doesn't make child marriage ok. Also - people at that age are at very different stages of development. They were not equals when they entered that marriage and she is very lucky if he didn't abuse his power during the marriage. It is also very difficult to change that kind of dynamics, even after a younger person catches up development-wise.
@@visionholistica3941 there is a market for this they get abused then set up with the only one to help them as a minor its very sick the family abandons and then your stuck with no skills in life totally depending on a father type husband who can do anything to do and use religous propaganda to control scare and fk you over. The family abandons or blames you cant get out you have no one. Again i will say no teen wants to tie the knot to escape abuse at 16 or 15 they want to have fun and live life. But there is NO escape when in that but the street its just another loop hole to trap a young girl into slavery that is inescapably after isolation and mental health is destroyed
What did Obama do about this issue? What has Nancy Pelosi done about this issue? Did she eat ice cream or get her hair done in spite the hair salon being shut down due to COVID?
It's called money parents force there kids to marry a wealthy man. If your so against it stop botching instead of buying ur billion dollar homes fancy cars give them money! People are starving!
Song of Songs 1:1-9 let him lead me or persecute me first because in the future I am going to do his going to make upon me in the present so then he can come into my room telling me why it was set?
Age of concent is 16 in vegas. Whole problem is solved if people just make it a law that they are given numbers and recources at time of marriage then make it a law for all shelters to accept any age. Boom solved. Every situation is different and every marriage should have counseling especially young marriage. Problem solved.
My experience with child marriage is the parents refused to allow their 16 year old to get married to a 19 year old. She ran away and while she was missing they were called in several time to look at dead bodies of young girls, that thank Gos, wasn't their child. This not an easy thing to fix, many sides to the story.
Why would anyone run away to get married? Especially that young when they can just run away to be boyfriend and girlfriend and have the same benefits as a marriage? No teen especially one brave enough to actually run away or disobedient enough to run away would go out of the way to get married actually ceremony if they were not die hard religous ... Unless they were not accepted by Society or their parents or someone didnt want the legal system involved. I know by personal experience...especially also if they were LGBTQ and those are the majority of run aways and homeless teens in America sadly.
@@leafmealoynederpydeu85 Because unless they are married or are over the age of majority the parents have absolute authority over them. So they run away to be free of this control.
It should be considered child abuse and human trafficking if money was involved.
Yes. Even if money wasn't involved.
No it shouldn't. Why does it matter if money was involved. Why. If the man is financially able and he can provide, that should be a good thing.
My mom taught in a community where it was not unheard of for young girls to be married overseas. Since the marriage was legally binding in a foreign country, the United States would then honor it here (or at least overlook it), as well. It didn't help that the girls were often covered due to their conservative cultures, so many "outsiders" didn't realize how young some of these wives actually were. My mom would come home so angry because there was one year that she taught a 12 year old girl whose 40 something year old husband had gotten her pregnant. My mom cried a lot for her and was afraid that, once the girl was no longer as appealing to her husband after having a couple of kids, that he would divorce her, cast her off, and move on to a new, younger model of wife, since he had apparently done that at least once already. In that case, she would be left at his mercy as a "used" woman with virtually no education and a couple of kids to raise, so her future looked pretty bleak.
My mother in law worked maternity for 38 years in a county hospital. One of the cases that stuck with her ( and led to her working pediatric maternity as an np) was a pregnant 9 year old refugee " bride". No, she did not survive. Her uterus ruptured when she went into preterm labor at home because of course the husband was worried about a man touching his child bride. He called a squad when the bleeding started to get obviously bad. She died not 10 minutes after arriving and no the baby didn't make it either. She saw the same man again in a couple of years with his slightly older 12 year old pregnant wife. At least this time he got her prenatal care instead of waiting for a catastrophe.
Sadly this wasn't the youngest she saw or the last just the first and most notable.
@@evil1by1 that's so sad. It never ceases to amaze me how many "developed" nations like to set themselves on pedestals as paragons of human rights virtue, yet so few of their people actually pay attention to the atrocities that are being committed right in their own communities.
@@dixie0625 I don't understand how authority just looks the other way when the word " marriage" is spoken like it's a talisman that bestows adulthood on all who utter it. She was 9, she deserved better than that.
Her case is what cause my mil to go the route she did. As she puts it- she can't change whatever circumstances led to this child being pregnant but she can do everything in her power to make this as safe and respectful as possible.
I couldn't do it, but she did for decades. Not all were victims, plenty of typical teen pregnancies but even they deserve respect and love- not more judgement and condemnation.
Forced marriages should absolutely be banned, but I'm not sure how that would play out. We'd def have to set up systems in place as checks and balances esp for those who are over 18, and it may be therefore harder to prove a wrong even with a law banning child marriages. It's complicated, but 100% necessary. My grandparents married at 16. They actually ran away to do it. Their marriage was good. But perhaps it would be better to have systems in place to protect those children who aren't choosing marriage in love (esp since teens don't have fully developed brains yet anyway) by stopping all child marriages than to allow such awful abuse to continue to occur. The 16 yr olds can wait 2 years. And I see the escaping abuse argument. But you know what is a more common story than "my marriage to escape my abusive father was good?" It's this "I went from parental abuse to spousal abuse."
This stuff about teens not having fully developed brains is just a meme that has been repeated over and over. There is no science behind it.
Thank you so much for your good work. Thank you for mentioning that there is so much we do not know happening right in front of us. Thank you for saying that words have meaning and power and images and manipulation are everywhere. We do have to know things we never wanted to know in order to make changes, and this is all happening now, all at the same time. So, thank you for picking up your piece of it and doing such a great job at it. Here is to all the babies and the humans who never had a chance to have reasonable expectations about life. We have to keep fighting also, for those children who are being trafficked. There are many people in dire situations. This is unacceptable. We must recreate a society worthy of this beautiful earth we are sitting on. It's time to set aside our differences and work together on everything we can agree on and stop allowing ourselves to be distracted from the big picture. Look over here, look over there! Here's a new concept/word to argue about. We will give this concept/word to side A and it will mean one thing and then to side B, it will mean another. They will both be thinking about the horror of their believed version of reality and nair the two shall meet to discuss anything. Meanwhile, children are suffering because this place is not what we think it is. We have work to do in every area of human life right now. We have to hit them where it hurts, policy, legislation, and litigation. I would attribute 70% of the stress in society these days, to straight-up manipulation. We don't need to live this way anymore. Thanks for being one who sees and has the ferocity of spirit to say something and step into it fully. A child is a child and we must work for them. May we persevere.
The age of consent and minimum marriage age needs to be raised to 18 everywhere.
That's not the problem
My only disagreement with a lot that is presented here is simple. I was an emancipated minor at 15. I could do practically every legal thing with contracts, etc. Really different for me as a male.
My other question would be why not ask about the process and not just what is going on. The process where a marriage is being planned but no one has requirements to review the petition before it occurs.
I am honestly bothered about what you are talking about.
I was a child bride.
Are you ok?
I can't imagine what it feels
Forced marriage should definitely be banned. Child marriage under 16 should be banned, and if he/she wants to marry and is over 16:
A) The spouse must be no more than 5 years older
B) Both parents and a judge must consent to the marriage
C) The teen should consent to their marriage. They should do it away from their parents and with a social services person so they can say if they don't want to marry.
D) The teen must remain in school
And telling them they can’t make it to a wedding because they don’t have money and that’s what his doing to all other young’s / teenagers.
More than child marriage, forced marriages should be banned
Children cannot consent, so there is no choice in the matter.
These are usually the same.
Unfortunately forced can be hard prove over 18, cause at least under they are minors.
Child marriage is basically a type of forced marriage.
Specially because they see their mothers backgrounds they force them to be as their mothers reminding them they should be as thou?
4:24-5:13 And this is supposed to be a nation against sexism towards Women. Also, shouldn´t men who are not elite be arrested for hitting a women?
I'm not way supporting child marriage, but sometimes marriage is a way out of abuse. My auntie got married at 15 and has been married for 56 years. Her father was abusive so marrying her 21 year old boyfriend seemed like a way out. These situations are very complicated and easy to judge from the outside. Now young women have more options, but in the 60s they didn't. This wasn't the only teen marriage in my family, two other women married before the age of 18.
Yeah it depends on the situation really some work well and the people love eachother. Each state has different age of consent knowledge is power
I think the message here is child marriage which is very different from running away with the boy friend because dysfunctional family dynamics.
Children should absolutely have better access to get help, when their families are abusive.
We shouldn't think that something is ok, because of some anecdotal evidence. There should be different ways for her to get out of abusive relationships than marriage. The system failed her, but her way out still doesn't make child marriage ok. Also - people at that age are at very different stages of development. They were not equals when they entered that marriage and she is very lucky if he didn't abuse his power during the marriage. It is also very difficult to change that kind of dynamics, even after a younger person catches up development-wise.
@@visionholistica3941 there is a market for this they get abused then set up with the only one to help them as a minor its very sick the family abandons and then your stuck with no skills in life totally depending on a father type husband who can do anything to do and use religous propaganda to control scare and fk you over. The family abandons or blames you cant get out you have no one. Again i will say no teen wants to tie the knot to escape abuse at 16 or 15 they want to have fun and live life. But there is NO escape when in that but the street its just another loop hole to trap a young girl into slavery that is inescapably after isolation and mental health is destroyed
What did the Great Orangeman Trump, do about it?
What did Obama do about this issue? What has Nancy Pelosi done about this issue? Did she eat ice cream or get her hair done in spite the hair salon being shut down due to COVID?
@@marasegal1849 most likely, the whole lot, are useless when you look at it.
@@marasegal1849 Not the turnip supporter
1 Juan 1:9 confess the sins 1 John 1:9 confesa los pecados.
It's called money parents force there kids to marry a wealthy man. If your so against it stop botching instead of buying ur billion dollar homes fancy cars give them money! People are starving!
Song of Songs 1:1-9 let him lead me or persecute me first because in the future I am going to do his going to make upon me in the present so then he can come into my room telling me why it was set?
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Age of concent is 16 in vegas. Whole problem is solved if people just make it a law that they are given numbers and recources at time of marriage then make it a law for all shelters to accept any age. Boom solved. Every situation is different and every marriage should have counseling especially young marriage. Problem solved.
My experience with child marriage is the parents refused to allow their 16 year old to get married to a 19 year old. She ran away and while she was missing they were called in several time to look at dead bodies of young girls, that thank Gos, wasn't their child. This not an easy thing to fix, many sides to the story.
Why would anyone run away to get married? Especially that young when they can just run away to be boyfriend and girlfriend and have the same benefits as a marriage? No teen especially one brave enough to actually run away or disobedient enough to run away would go out of the way to get married actually ceremony if they were not die hard religous ... Unless they were not accepted by Society or their parents or someone didnt want the legal system involved. I know by personal experience...especially also if they were LGBTQ and those are the majority of run aways and homeless teens in America sadly.
@@leafmealoynederpydeu85 Because unless they are married or are over the age of majority the parents have absolute authority over them. So they run away to be free of this control.
Follow the Bible. The New Testament says that marriageable age is after first menstruation.
Men are pedophilic by nature.