Bafang BBS01, BBS02 and BBSHD Android App for Reprogramming.
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
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In this video I show a new App made for programming Bafang mid drive kits. This video is not sponsored and I have not been paid to promote anything you see here.
You can use the link below or just go to Google Play and search for it.
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Thanks again! Really appreciate your time pulling these videos together. Very helpful, my cable is on order!
Thanks for your kind words 🙂
Very nice. Seems like there is an app for literally for everything. Good to know there is for Bafang. Very convinient.
Thank you kind person! Saves me hauling the bike inside !
Yup, works great and it has a terrific help file built in!
I agree, the help file is amazing.
Thanks for your comment.
it works fantastic ;-)
the Speedlimit is only how long help the Motor,thats up to 40,but you can drive faster,but the Motor dont help over 40 kmh.
a 58T on the Motor and a 11T on the Back Gear made you fast,but the Motor notice on the Display 40 Kmh and say-NO ;-) if you move the Speedsensor show your Display a lower Speed and so help the motor longer and you drive over 40 because the fail Speedsensor result.
thx for info brother. but i bought programming cable but i got to by a higo ext cable cause my cable is female on display connector so ext/prgram cable /and that c to usb connection.
The speed app is not available for new version of android
Hello looks great, does this work on the torque sensor settings for the Bafang ultra m620 thanks.
I believe it is bbs01, 02 and HD only but it might be worth contacting the developer. I believe he is still working on it.
I want 3 major requirements from my Bafang 500w mid drive:1) Maximum speed on bike paths of 20kph, 2) Maximum Range from 36v Battery to cope with a 50km event, 3) No restrictions on my highest level of PAS which is level 5. Can you advise which options to change to achieve my goals?
To be Honest it is a year or two since I looked at this but your goals are very modest so should not be difficult. for max speed select a lower assist number that matches 20kph. Maybe make the change to 9 settings which is easy and Google will show you how. Unless your battery is rubbish or your very lazy/unfit or disabled 50km should be easy on an ebike. For no restrictions you need to set the power for level 5 to 100% and the help area of the app should help you.
Have you finalized your assist levels? Would you mind sharing them please? Thanks!! Also looking for efficiency tweaks if your willing to share?
To be honest I haven't looked into this much further so can't really add much.
As for efficiency, pump up your tyres, pedal harder and if you still don't have enough range then either replace your battery or add a second battery of the same voltage. I did that a few years ago and it worked well.
Otg stands for on the go.
I have model BBS02B 750w. Can I change on this model not 24 amperes as in the original program in the computer, but for example 28 or 30?
How old is it? If new this year or last then probably no. If older than maybe. You would need to try it.
it's all nice, he just showed where you connected the cable to the bike. And where can I get the cable too? What is the cable called?
Just Google bafang programing cable and loads will show up.
Thanks for the info. I already have the cables needed and shorted the Bluetooth dongle cable for my Eggrider V1, which did the same thing but at a ridiculous cost. This so much more convenient than a PC:)
The BBS01, 02 & 02b look the same. I'm assuming that if you can maintain 30 mph on flats and the controller is set to 25 amps that you have a BBS02b. I don't think the earlier models could manage a 52 volt battery either, limited to 36 and 48 volts.
I've never tried over volting my kit so I don't know for certain what would happen but would be surprised if it didn't work. 36V is always 10S but some would argue that 48V should be 14S not 13. Don't forget a fully charged lead acid battery is 12.8v so 4 x 12.8 is 51.2V
@@alibro7512 Sorry, I thought you mentioned the battery being 52 volts. I'm aware that the advertised number isn't the max charge capacity but the nominal power level. I'm running a 52 volt battery on a BBS02b and it charged to 58.8 volts (when new).
I'm not sure the jump from 48 to 52 volts is truly over volting as many displays give you the option to choose 52 volts from the factory. Very different scenario with 60 or 72 volts.
Very informative video, very Helpful. Quick question
Can you restrict a 500w motor to 250w using the controller cable ? I have a 500w motor on my bike i used for private roads (I live by mountains) but to ride it on the road it needs to be 250w . Thank you.
Ps, I know I can set the motor to stop assistance at 25kmp but the throttle won't go less than 15kph
I believe so but you would need to reprogram it to deliver a lower current so it would not be easy to change it for off road riding. Just divide 250 by your max voltage and set the current to that number.
Having said that I don't believe anyone has ever been 'done' for using a 500W motor. Many commercial ebike motors are closer to 500W than 250W anyway.
How would the authorities test it anyway?
Thank you. I shall try your suggestion and see how it goes. I will have to remove the throttle it seems though, can't reduce that speed it seems
EVER SINCE I USED THIS PROGRAMMING SYSTEM, MY PAS HAS STOPPED WORKING-JUST A WARNING INCASE A WRONG SETTING CAN CAUSE A MALFUNCTION??? FOR SOME REASON, BAFANG DO NOT WANT OWNERS TO USE THIS SYSTEM?
Sad the app only compatible with older versions of android
Did you happen to notice a setting that governs percentage of remaining battery where the system shuts down? My BBSHD motor consistently shuts down at 30% battery charge, and I'd love to adjust this to get closer to 100% of the battery in play to increase my range... Thanks!
I don't think so but I haven't looked at this for a while. Check out the Seeed app as it has a great help section that explains most things.
@@alibro7512 will do, and thanks!
brilliant vid does the pc offer any extra options over android?
I don't think so, in fact the help section in the Android App is better than anything on the PC program.
@@alibro7512 thanks for the reply hoping to have a mess with mine when the cable turns up.. After watching your vid ill prob use my phone to change a few things around then
Hi .i suspect my controller doesnt allow the motor working,my accu is good so also my display,no error codes,wat can i do with yhe h ardwear or just a new controller?36v 500w midmotor
I've never had a problem with mine so I'm sorry don't know.
Might be good to know if the App has a reset all function for the system?
The help section has many of the default settings.
Better late then never,great speeed app. Red light is on but the phone says device not found.why do u know.D.
How old is your Bafang kit?
Hello could you tell me where i can find à compatible application. The one in réf is obsolète for my Android phone. Thank for any help.
This app hasn't been updated for a few years but if you watch my other video about PC software I believe it is still available.
That looks interesting. Is it possible to read the default settings of the motor controller and save as a backup?
Just in case i would config. some mess and want to go back to default?
I'm not sure about the android app but if using the PC program you can save the settings.
@@alibro7512 Thank you. I asked because i have a Mac and an Android phone only. No windows PC…
@@SD_Alias I never tried it with an android phone so I guess your best bet is first check the help files which are very good but if no joy then do lots of screen captures before touching any settings.
@@alibro7512 Yes good idea with the screenshots…
Thank you for this very informative video. I have a Bafang 250w m400 motor. When I pedal I have a feeling that the engine only helps up to a certain point. Than I have to switch into a higher gear ( cassette gear ) and then it helps again. Do you know if there is a setting where I can prolong this help limit? I don't have a throttle, only pedal assist.
As far as I know they will assist up to a set rpm and torque for each assist level. This means for example on assist number 2 it will assist up to maybe 30rpm. These are made up numbers but in this instance if you are using 1st gear you'll get maybe 5mph before the rpm peaks, you change to 2nd and the rpm will reduce a little initially then increase to the set rpm again so it's the rpm of the pedals we're talking about. Without a throttle it will not be easy to overcome this.
@@alibro7512 Thank you for the reply. Is it possible to increase the rpm peak for each assist level? Would that help? I feel it even more when I ride uphill. I try to make more rpm ( with my pedals ) as I would on an non electric bicycle, to build up speed before switching into higher gear, but this limit doesn't let me to that.
@@joaomarveloso1049if yours is the older model this software works with then yes. Install the app and try it out. If a newer model then sorry I don't know.
@@alibro7512I will try, thank you
Need updated program for android
Hi just wondering can that cable work on a hub motor as well or can you get a connection cable to make it work
Hi Greg
The software communicates through the cable with the controller not the motor. If your controller is in the motor or you have a Bafang controller than maybe but probably not. I suspect the firmware would be different for a Hub motor/controller setup so the software would need to be set up for it.
Ok cheers
Do I necessarily need the programming cable or can I also use a normal cable, for example the battery charger cable?
The cable has a USB to serial adapter built in so yes you need it.
Note this only works on older models. I'm not sure when the change happened.
@@alibro7512 ok thx
@@alibro7512 Another thing, my bike has the output to connect the Bafang cable but it's a momodesign electric bike, does it work the same or does it necessarily have to be Bafang, thanks?
It's the controller that matters. Is it bbs01 /2 or 3 and more than three years (ish, I'm not certain) old.
Woohoo ! Good to know we can do it with Android , i presume i can do this with my chromebook as well ??
I don't know much about Crome Books. Can you install other Android Apps on them?
@@alibro7512 it depends , most of them i can install but not all of them .
Give it a try and let us know how it goes.
Wait! Thus works for the BBS02 😮😊😅
Yes if it's a couple of years old. It doesn't work on the newer models.
Will this app and cables work on my Himiway ebike cruiser with a wheel hub Bafang motor?
As far as I know it only works with the Bafang Mid Drive BBS01, BBS02 and the older BBSHD.
Very helpful. I am not sure why, but in all videos in UA-cam I can't open links in descriptions. Maybe problem is in my app
Hi, i have bafang m400 UART, display DPC 18 4.2 U - can i change any settings you mentioned in the video? Could i brick my controler if programm will be incompatible with my motor?
If it is not compatible it won't connect so no harm in trying.
@@alibro7512 Thank you for your answer :) I will try it tomorrow.
I have been using speeed app on my bafang mid deive for a while now. But now it connecta etc and writes but doesn't change anything on the motor. Im confused
Do you save the changes after making them? I think it's on the first page.
@@alibro7512 yes sir I do. It seems to be working now🤔not sure what was going on. We had a pretty bad electrical lightning storm here last night, would be surprised if it affected it somehow 🤣 but sadly the other motor controller is no longer working 😭 at least I have one bike working
Does this app work for canbus engines? Or only for UART?
It only works for older models of BBS01,2 and HD
Do you have any information on this with something like an M600 and CAN bus protocol?
Sorry no
@@alibro7512 no worries, I did some research and it seems the only thing that works for CAN bus, is the BESST software. Fortunately I was able to just email them and request an invitation code and they replied saying they'll get me a code later today.
Someone told me to program for 5 levels to adjust 1 to 9 odd numbers only is that correct ?
I've always had mine at 9 levels so I don't know
Did you find out if this was right? I have 5 assist levels on the display (500c) but this app has 9? It's confusing.
What Bafang displays would this be good for because my bike is running on the C961 display ?
The display doesn't matter as it's disconnected but the software only runs on older motors.
@@alibro7512 What motor does the bafang C961 display run on ?
@@calvintanner7897 You would need to send suppliers details of you current setup and ask them what they suggest.
@@alibro7512 Ok thank you
@@alibro7512 You say that the software only runs on older motors, so if I bought a new BBS02 today, this app wouldn't work on the newer motor
Am have issues! Everytime I read change and the write and then I lose my throttle completely I have only pedal assist one and two
If you check the help file most of the standard settings are explained. If you still have problems get back and I'll post my settings which will hopefully work for you.
@@alibro7512 thanks that's what am doing again now. Maybe this time I'll get it
Still having issues, read everything under the help page, the issue is the display now, I can't control my throttle of the way I wanted to there certain parameters under the help page that I can't find into my display. Using P860c.
@@tomohalloran4644 Take a look here to see my settings. photos.app.goo.gl/zjZWdRFmcNVtyBUe9
If your controller has a different firmware it may not be exactly the same but hopefully this will help.
Can I change battery voltage from 48 to 52 with the app or do I have to do that with a laptop?? Any info would be much appreciated.
I had assumed it would change the voltage automatically. Have you changed your battery yet?
@@alibro7512 Yes, I put the 52v on the bike and the app shows 48v on the home page. I try to click on it in hopes that it would highlight it and give me an option to change it but it doesn't. I was just wondering if I was missing something...
@@jeffreysantore7606 Have you checked the battery with a multimeter?
Don't forget there isn't really any such thing as a 48V battery. It is a carry over from the days of lead acid and is more of a generic term for a 13S or 14S pack. Some say 48V is 13S and some say it is 14S but neither will be 48V since a fully charged 13S pack will be 54.6V and a fully charged 14S pack will be 58.8V.
Maybe the system is using the generic term for both setups.
@@alibro7512 I have not ck'd the battery voltage. I may not be understanding your last reply. I just want to make sure the motor controller is seeing the 52v battery for additional performance and distance. How do I confirm the controller is set to 52v.
@@jeffreysantore7606 Sorry I may have caused confusion by mentioning the fully charged voltage.
I don't think you need to change anything but you do need to confirm the battery pack you bought is what you think it is.
Ebike battery packs are usually made using 18650 lithium Ion cells and each cell is 4.2V fully charged but nominal charge (half full) is 3.6V or 3.7V. if your pack has 13 cells in series then you have 13 x 3.7V = 48.1V. If it has 14 cells in series then it will be 14 x 3.7V = 51.8V. I believe Bafang BBS01/02 and 03 are happy with either voltage and should just work but I've never tested it myself.
I think most ebike packs bought online sold as 48V are 13S unless you specify otherwise.
Great SPEEED app but just a warning-I have lost my PAS ever since using this program and trying to ride using THROTTLE only is not only a pain but appears to overheat the motor as well!
In same boat, Mines star work only from 20kmh, what a peace of shit..
@@Artevaldo Did you switch all the settings back to the original values before you made changes? Most likely a current setting was changed which is causing the motor only to work from 20km?
@@TeknologikVideos solved that isue now flies like a dream, all PAS working, throttle working at max speed no matter what PAS level, you can use speed and pedaling at the same time, now only one isue sof frozen a lot, because I used it as main scrren
@Artevaldo how did you fix it im in the same predicament with no pas
@@benfeildPranker You need to take the motor back to your supplier who can run a program to fix your PAS. Still do not know why PAS was disabled in the first place?
What all cables do I need
Only the cable listed in the video description and an OTG adapter if you don't already have one.
Is there an ios app also?
I don't think so. I don't think this one is supported any more now either.
Mine just keeps saying no device found I have the red light on the USB cable but won't find device?
What model of Bafang mid drive do you have?
@@alibro7512 it's the bbshd but I've heard it will not connect to the speeed app if it has 52v firmware
@@sickswan61 I hadn't heard that but I have heard it will not connect to the newer BBSHD.
@@alibro7512 possibly due to the firmware I was told by the dealer who sold me mine all the new bbshd are flashed for the 52v firmware probably why they are all limited to 28a with the firmware
@@sickswan61 I guess that makes sense. I bought my bbs01 a few years ago so I'm not up to date with current models.
YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT I HAVE USED THIS SYSTEM TWICE AND TWICE I HAVE BLOWN UP THE CONTROLLER REQUIRING IT TO GO BACK TO THE SUPPLIER FOR RE-PROGRAMMING-AT $200-300 PER GO!
So you made a fundamental mistake when changing your settings and your shouting about it. Odd!
You made the same mistake twice yet are still shouting about it. Even odder!
This software hasn't worked on new controllers for two or three years now so when did this happen?
What's the cabl name please
BBS01, BBS02, BBSHD Reprogramming cable, links in the video description
I Got Both Cables The App Asked Me For Pemission To Acces Usb Serial
I Push Yess And A Msg
Shows Can't Connect With Motor.
Can You Help??
Whenever Thank's.
Is the battery powered on?
@@alibro7512 Yess
Abd If I Plug And Unplug
The App Reacts
@@danielandujar5479 As far as I know the app only works with older bbs01, bbs02 and BBSHD. How old is yours?
@@alibro7512 jus Got It About A Month Ago
Everyting Is Working Fine
And The Wires Are Well Connected.The Controler
Is Working Fine I Could Adjust And Change
Things On The Lcd
But I Need To Change
The Other Things
Like Taking Off Is Too
Strong.
The Programing Cable
Is Ok It Shows The Light
It Only Shows
Can't Connect To Motor
But Why The App Ask me
Permission To Acces Usb
Serial#??? Motor Is 750w
By The Way 🙄
Looks That I'm The Only
One With This Problem
@@danielandujar5479 I don't think it will work with a new device like yours.
Ciao si puo' usare anche nelle fat bike col motore bafang nella ruota posteriore ho scaricato l app
Translated
Hello, it can also be used in fat bikes with the bafang motor in the rear wheel I downloaded the app
That's really interesting, I thought it only worked for mid drives. Thanks for letting us all know.
It goes with Key-Display LCD KD21 and Bafang G020 ?
Sorry I don't know.
@@alibro7512 Ok thx Bro
To use otg, your phone had to be able to 'host' USB. Not all android phones are otg.
That's true but I think most reasonably new phones can.
NEW app coming SOON CALLED speeded
Thanks for the heads up.
Sing me up please I’m about to buy a new bbs02 model within the next 30 days.
Ended up buying a BBSHD in March 2023 with a DP C18 (UART) which has the ECO & SPORT Pass 5 settings. When connecting to Speeed it recognizes it as a BBS03. Haven’t altered any settings yet. Sport definitely consumes battery life faster. Ran a 22mile flat course in ECO and had 30% battery left vs Sport ending at 20%. That’s on a 51V 19.2 ah battery.
Useless bit of info for you, just in case you would like to know what OTG means. It means "On The Go".
Just in case you like to know. 😂
Do you have to comment on every single damn thing? Just introduce the app briefly. 3minutes of content but you managed to do it in 14mins
Thanks for your kind words.
il video e ok...ma sei troppo veloce nelle spiegazioni...vai più low
For anyone having issues after making changes take a look here to see my settings. I'm not claiming they are optimal but they seem to work. photos.app.goo.gl/zjZWdRFmcNVtyBUe9
If your controller has a different firmware it may not be exactly the same but hopefully this will help.
Wat is the over cable cold to bike I av the otg cable
@@peteryeardley6672 Sorry, I don't understand the question