Bruvs online tell me to focus on one thing at a time so I feel I can’t do character design until I finish this 4 year long expenditure on Anatomy to THEN move onto clothing.
You can go back and forth. All of these concepts relate to each other, so when you learn some anatomy, try incorporating that in character design. Then when you find your character design is lacking or there’s a body part you’re not comfortable with, go back to anatomy.
A method that might be more satisfying for you then is to do it all. Practice character design, but while you're doing that, look up references for anatomy to make your poses and characters. It will be a slower process and probably better for projects, but it might be more rewarding for you. Also, if you aren't enjoying just grinding away at a specific thing, take breaks and make sure to do things that are fun for you. As well as experiment with how you learn and keep track of how it makes you feel. Try to find what ways of learning play into you and your lifestyle the best. For example, a structured schedule devoted to specific topics vs. a wing it and learn as you want to draw the thing approach. Books vs. Online tutorials, communal learning vs. learning by yourself, etc.
No, the only thing you "need" to get good at first is the fundamentals, but even then you can still practice drawing characters and design and stuff for fun
Go back and fourth, tbh u also need to draw what u like, learning anatomy is ur study it’s not ur product, it will make your product better but still it’s not ur product, so keep on producing your product because that’s also a skill(and it can in fact improve your character designs and help u in long run). You can spend more time on anatomy if u want but still do what u like for example if u like character designs then do them, if u like story then write it, if u like funny comics then make funny scripts stuff like this is important.
One thing id like to add is that character design... Is basically the same as creature design. If you wanna get better at either, practice a bit of the other and try to learn from that as well! I used to make Fakemon designs when i was little, so i have that "what if i tried out this stupid thing" mentality when designing a character already in my mind, same with combining two diff refs into one. Try out different things! Practice environmental storytelling by making a small background! Practicing these kinds of things will make you better at conveying information in a visual way.
If you went with the eye design on the tome the eye could be magically floating *above the belts* to show just how powerful it is that it can project through solid material!!
looks awesome, i will use this for practice, the only thing I would change to the design is make his clothes look a bit damaged or dirty, for someone who is escaping from his country and is constantly stealing stuff and carrying it everywhere he cannot stay clean for long, maybe make his shirt brownish or with a couple of holes near the book area, still pretty good
THANK YOU ! Right when I was struggling to find an answer to a feedback I've gotten about my webtoon's character's design looking all the same... I didn't knew where to beging in order to get better and expand my visual library beyond "taking rerences and putting them on a character". Time to get into a character designing challenge I guess ! I've got a whole cast to design again + all my previous OCs :D
Im so happy for this video. Its so hard figuring out how to add more detail without it feeling completely random. I love the end result. It really gave the character more character
First time here: I think the way you tackle these videos is very approachable, and you're also telling a bit of a story aloung the way. Your an excellent teacher, not everyone can make material this approachable. Also very well edited lol
i never rly comment on youtube videos but MAN i gotta say, you're probably the artist that i've recently followed that makes me so inspired to really get stuck into character design bc its something i've loved for sooo long but have been so hesitant to go into heavy cause of making bad designs. this video has made me feel so motivated to go back to my characters and re-design them and learn more about how to improve them. ty for sharing what you've learned and for showing all the work you do to get to the designs and the art that youre proud of!!!
When you brought up the concept of a huge backpack with books in it, I immediately thought of bookcape... Like a literal cape with a bookshelf in in...
I think currently one of my problems right now is feeling like I need to worldbuild a ton in order for an OC's backstory to make sense, since they're situated in a very specific context.
I really liked how it turned out. I took a bit of a different route with that character: first of all, he gives off a reckless bard vibes. I think it's his haircut and the way he wears that shirt. I also took notice of the tattoo on his hand, not a common thing with scholars. So I decided to double down on that bard-ish scholar aesthetic. First of all, I would make the collar of his shirt stand up. Give it a little triangular shape (but not fully triangular, mirroring his haircut, that looks a bit messy, but elegant at the same time). Then I'd roll his left sleeve up a bit more, to emphasise his tattoo. Maybe the tattoo is used to cast magic, or something like that. I'd give it a spiral design (symmetrical one can also work, but I want it to be more chaotic) with more occult-ish looking symbols, it would go nice with the Universe-ending tome. Maybe add a little trinket to his pants to make them a bit more interesting. Some fetish or an amulet hanging down from his belt on a long rope, perhaps? Or a rope with feathers attached to it through the whole length. And yeah, the book and scroll holsters, maybe he's even having two books on one hip, hanging down one after another. So, in the end my goal would be to make him wear that scholar-ish clothing, but also giving it more elements of recklessness, for which he might have been expelled.
Ty Pikat for always being such a great help. I'm currently Making a character for a series, and your videos always help me want to improve on the things I hate to do! So ty :D
I think I would've leaned more into his relationship with this cursed book. the worried expression and hands is good, but I would've made him more crouched or hunched over and more frustrated or vexed by the book. maybe the book is whispering to him or cackling at his plight. maybe the book is a character too, something like sukuna in jjk. perhaps the book is heavy because of the knowledge inside and the more he learns from the book, the lighter it becomes. so maybe at first he's hunched over because of the weight but as he faces his fears and reads more from it, it becomes physically lighter, similar to how only thor can wield his hammer but it's impossible to lift for others. also others mentioned making his clothes a lil more disheveled like his face I think would also tell more story about the character.
I'm seeing alot of people saying they prefer the old design and me personally i couldnt disagree more Don't get me wrong the first design is GREAT and serviceable, but I completely understand why Chashuu wanted a second opinion on it It feels very "first drafty", speaking as someone who has dealt with that before. So I understand why he didnt feel solid on it cuz I've felt the same exact thing (and hated it) I think it's actually a GOOD thing to want to push a character design further I'm impressed that Pikat managed to do that without creating an entirely different sentence with the design (that's why I see it as an upgrade) Too many of yall are stuck on that "Soul vs. Soulless" wavelength and it shows tbh
@@guardianoftheniight8476 RIGHT??? Not to glaze Pikat but she literally just made the first design, but added more lore stuff that conveys the dude's deal and gives him a stronger silhouette That's a textbook upgrade what are people talking about 💀💀💀
agree with everything but the pose and expression. Seems such a big misread on the character tbh or at least diverging greatly on the first creator's take of the character. They are basically a whole different character now.
@@KON-struct Hmm but considering the owner of the character was watching the stream and answering questions pikat had, I don't think she strayed at all. She likely just expounded further on what he wanted. He would've pointed out what was wrong with it if it didn't match the character, and pikat would've changed accordingly.
@@guardianoftheniight8476 he merely commented on what pikatt did. No comparison at all made to his work nor enough info to conclude that, all positive reinforcement. And do we really need his input to know? Yes he might've liked the changes but they are literally different characters. This isnt about this or that, you can literally see they hold two different personalities. First is more resolved in what he's doing, the second more fascinated of the book (+ points) and also unsure (- points).
"I'm terrible at drawing hands" .. I just started to draw and I hear this a lot, so I guess I gotta get prepared for the hands? >_< ... I mean at least I'm already drawing boxes tho!! 🤣
the book looked pretty unimportant at first, so you definitely got the impressiveness of it across. although the original did portray the medieval aspect a lot better imo. and i do wish you kept the cape. ps i would love to see a greyscale to color process in the future ❤
@@cheesekerperI mean even if it doesnt make sense to ur brain u should still be able to learn & do it. Since theres a bunch of general proportion landmarks both irl & stylized that you can learn & use. Also, are you actually put serious time into studying & practising proportions?
ehhh she did a lot more than just that. the whole vibe is different tbh. although i will say, i prefer the more "secretive" aura the character had in the original piece. if they're being accused of stealing i dont think he'd have the super important tome on his belt
You made him softer and he looks a bit younger and kind of like a new League of Legends character... -Didn't you use to be a LoL champ designer? Hahahah... I miss playing League...-
Hey so I'm trying to become an artist but I worry about using reference from other artists because I think it will make it harder to have an original artstyle, could you give advice about the matter
I disagree, it wasn't terrible (and was perfectly usable for a comic or something) but it didn't really tell much about the character, it just felt a lot like a first draft, the second one has a lot more going on and seems to have more thought into it
They’re pretty much the same character with different prop and pose. With D&D characters especially you don’t want every one at the table to try and “steal the show” with a loud/over the top design
I really like your videos and id love to join the community more but i dont know how to T.T like how do i submit art to get useful tips from pikat or the community? HOW DO I BECOME A MEMBER OF THE DARK COUNCIL ( ofcourse not in a parasocial way its not like i want to be personal friends)
I feel like patreon was mentioned before but I don’t see it in the description so I’m not sure :s the link to her twitch is in there though which may have more info?
I think the first design was done better but Also you did give a good ideas to improve on it Cause ur telling him why you did it instead and he could learn from that For me i think the middle area is taking too much space from the character specially the book Any how Great video i loved it ♥
Bruvs online tell me to focus on one thing at a time so I feel I can’t do character design until I finish this 4 year long expenditure on Anatomy to THEN move onto clothing.
You can go back and forth. All of these concepts relate to each other, so when you learn some anatomy, try incorporating that in character design. Then when you find your character design is lacking or there’s a body part you’re not comfortable with, go back to anatomy.
A method that might be more satisfying for you then is to do it all. Practice character design, but while you're doing that, look up references for anatomy to make your poses and characters. It will be a slower process and probably better for projects, but it might be more rewarding for you.
Also, if you aren't enjoying just grinding away at a specific thing, take breaks and make sure to do things that are fun for you.
As well as experiment with how you learn and keep track of how it makes you feel. Try to find what ways of learning play into you and your lifestyle the best. For example, a structured schedule devoted to specific topics vs. a wing it and learn as you want to draw the thing approach. Books vs. Online tutorials, communal learning vs. learning by yourself, etc.
When youre done youre goinf to be an art god tho gahdayum
No, the only thing you "need" to get good at first is the fundamentals, but even then you can still practice drawing characters and design and stuff for fun
Go back and fourth, tbh u also need to draw what u like, learning anatomy is ur study it’s not ur product, it will make your product better but still it’s not ur product, so keep on producing your product because that’s also a skill(and it can in fact improve your character designs and help u in long run). You can spend more time on anatomy if u want but still do what u like for example if u like character designs then do them, if u like story then write it, if u like funny comics then make funny scripts stuff like this is important.
One thing id like to add is that character design... Is basically the same as creature design. If you wanna get better at either, practice a bit of the other and try to learn from that as well!
I used to make Fakemon designs when i was little, so i have that "what if i tried out this stupid thing" mentality when designing a character already in my mind, same with combining two diff refs into one.
Try out different things! Practice environmental storytelling by making a small background! Practicing these kinds of things will make you better at conveying information in a visual way.
If you went with the eye design on the tome the eye could be magically floating *above the belts* to show just how powerful it is that it can project through solid material!!
looks awesome, i will use this for practice, the only thing I would change to the design is make his clothes look a bit damaged or dirty, for someone who is escaping from his country and is constantly stealing stuff and carrying it everywhere he cannot stay clean for long, maybe make his shirt brownish or with a couple of holes near the book area, still pretty good
yup, a hood to conceal himself might've been good. More layers overall in his clothes because he needs to keep warm.
these always come perfectly timed wtf thank youuuuuuu
gosh, I can't skip your videos
Great video. The redesign process was a great insight in what to do
I was just scrolling art tutorials and your notifications sniped my finger when I was going to click on another one. Now that good service
THANK YOU ! Right when I was struggling to find an answer to a feedback I've gotten about my webtoon's character's design looking all the same... I didn't knew where to beging in order to get better and expand my visual library beyond "taking rerences and putting them on a character".
Time to get into a character designing challenge I guess ! I've got a whole cast to design again + all my previous OCs :D
Im so happy for this video. Its so hard figuring out how to add more detail without it feeling completely random. I love the end result. It really gave the character more character
First time here:
I think the way you tackle these videos is very approachable, and you're also telling a bit of a story aloung the way. Your an excellent teacher, not everyone can make material this approachable. Also very well edited lol
woooo Awesome video!! I really enjoyed Chashuu's character design of Teofilo when it was submitted~
Another banger, pikat. You never fail to teach us so much.
i never rly comment on youtube videos but MAN i gotta say, you're probably the artist that i've recently followed that makes me so inspired to really get stuck into character design bc its something i've loved for sooo long but have been so hesitant to go into heavy cause of making bad designs. this video has made me feel so motivated to go back to my characters and re-design them and learn more about how to improve them. ty for sharing what you've learned and for showing all the work you do to get to the designs and the art that youre proud of!!!
I've been designing an illustration to be put on a hoodie, and your video helped me to push myself further and make it more unique! Thank you!
Right when I struggling at Character Design! Thanks a lot!
This video is just what I need ❤
When you brought up the concept of a huge backpack with books in it, I immediately thought of bookcape... Like a literal cape with a bookshelf in in...
I LOVE the result, I already loved the original idea, but especially now I can totally imagine him as the MC in a webcomic or manga!
nog the first he did was unique now it looks like the average action graphic novel at Barnes and nobles
Im super down for a greyscale to colour video
this is such a great video. I love how you made the booksmore exaggerated.
I think currently one of my problems right now is feeling like I need to worldbuild a ton in order for an OC's backstory to make sense, since they're situated in a very specific context.
10:05 NOT THE RENDER TSUNDERE 😭
The rendering actually looks awesome, and i need that Black and white to colors video -,_-,
I really liked how it turned out.
I took a bit of a different route with that character: first of all, he gives off a reckless bard vibes. I think it's his haircut and the way he wears that shirt. I also took notice of the tattoo on his hand, not a common thing with scholars. So I decided to double down on that bard-ish scholar aesthetic.
First of all, I would make the collar of his shirt stand up. Give it a little triangular shape (but not fully triangular, mirroring his haircut, that looks a bit messy, but elegant at the same time).
Then I'd roll his left sleeve up a bit more, to emphasise his tattoo. Maybe the tattoo is used to cast magic, or something like that. I'd give it a spiral design (symmetrical one can also work, but I want it to be more chaotic) with more occult-ish looking symbols, it would go nice with the Universe-ending tome.
Maybe add a little trinket to his pants to make them a bit more interesting. Some fetish or an amulet hanging down from his belt on a long rope, perhaps? Or a rope with feathers attached to it through the whole length.
And yeah, the book and scroll holsters, maybe he's even having two books on one hip, hanging down one after another.
So, in the end my goal would be to make him wear that scholar-ish clothing, but also giving it more elements of recklessness, for which he might have been expelled.
Oh hey! They’re doing Kaycem’s Drawn In Dungeons challenge!
It turned out SOO great, I’m really impressed!
Great! Now I can make my bird OCs look like gods instead of dead eyed bread munchers
For me it's reversed I end up creating gods instead of dead eyed bread munchers.
Really interested in the greyscale technique!
Ty Pikat for always being such a great help.
I'm currently Making a character for a series, and your videos always help me want to improve on the things I hate to do!
So ty :D
Hiya Pikat! Thanks for the awesome video as always!
A Grey scale video would be great!
GREYSCALE TO COLOR PLEAS!!!!
I enjoy this video a lot more in comparison to previous redesigns youve done as it felt more in-line with the original artist intent and abilities.
I think I would've leaned more into his relationship with this cursed book.
the worried expression and hands is good, but I would've made him more crouched or hunched over and more frustrated or vexed by the book.
maybe the book is whispering to him or cackling at his plight.
maybe the book is a character too, something like sukuna in jjk.
perhaps the book is heavy because of the knowledge inside and the more he learns from the book, the lighter it becomes.
so maybe at first he's hunched over because of the weight but as he faces his fears and reads more from it, it becomes physically lighter, similar to how only thor can wield his hammer but it's impossible to lift for others.
also others mentioned making his clothes a lil more disheveled like his face I think would also tell more story about the character.
i love your vids!!! you are so kind! thanks for the lessons!
Hexagons Are The Bestagons
I needddddd that rendering video immediately!!!!1
Nice! I will definitely apply this advices. Oh, and would love to see a video about grey-scale coloring.
I can’t get over the bookshelf idea LOL
very interested in that gray scale to color process
BABE WAKE UP!!! PIKAT JS UPLOADED A NEW VIDEO!1111!!!!
The boring ones are simple it looks Good
The 100 character design practice seems useful!
perfectly timed thank you!!!!
this video made me realize that i don't like blue clothing on characters. And i don't know how i never notice that before.
I would love to have a video talking about black and white rendering to colour!!
I would like to see the rendering color process thingie!
I'm seeing alot of people saying they prefer the old design and me personally i couldnt disagree more
Don't get me wrong the first design is GREAT and serviceable, but I completely understand why Chashuu wanted a second opinion on it
It feels very "first drafty", speaking as someone who has dealt with that before. So I understand why he didnt feel solid on it cuz I've felt the same exact thing (and hated it)
I think it's actually a GOOD thing to want to push a character design further
I'm impressed that Pikat managed to do that without creating an entirely different sentence with the design (that's why I see it as an upgrade)
Too many of yall are stuck on that "Soul vs. Soulless" wavelength and it shows tbh
I agree! And, pikat didn't overload the design at all. It's almost exactly the same as the original, just with more intentionality and expression!
@@guardianoftheniight8476 RIGHT???
Not to glaze Pikat but she literally just made the first design, but added more lore stuff that conveys the dude's deal and gives him a stronger silhouette
That's a textbook upgrade what are people talking about 💀💀💀
agree with everything but the pose and expression. Seems such a big misread on the character tbh or at least diverging greatly on the first creator's take of the character. They are basically a whole different character now.
@@KON-struct Hmm but considering the owner of the character was watching the stream and answering questions pikat had, I don't think she strayed at all. She likely just expounded further on what he wanted. He would've pointed out what was wrong with it if it didn't match the character, and pikat would've changed accordingly.
@@guardianoftheniight8476 he merely commented on what pikatt did. No comparison at all made to his work nor enough info to conclude that, all positive reinforcement. And do we really need his input to know? Yes he might've liked the changes but they are literally different characters. This isnt about this or that, you can literally see they hold two different personalities. First is more resolved in what he's doing, the second more fascinated of the book (+ points) and also unsure (- points).
Want more of this
I’m ngl remember when the prompt said Teen? Because neither of these look like teenagers
I like the updated design elements, but I feel like the updated face and pose ruined his worried "running from the law" look
I WOULD LOVE A GRAYSCALE TO COLOR PROCESS
Is it just me or is her voice so soothing ??
The answer to hands is to have the character not have hands and use telekinesis
The second redesign looks pretty much the same with bulkier unpractical props.
I would like to see a grey scale to color video!
Great explenation!
awesome advice
I'd love to see a video on rendering!
Oh i mean from grey scale to coloring process!!!
"I'm terrible at drawing hands" .. I just started to draw and I hear this a lot, so I guess I gotta get prepared for the hands? >_< ... I mean at least I'm already drawing boxes tho!! 🤣
Never forget that this character eats book sandwiches for lunch
tysm for this i was wanting to touch up my main oc
Please do a grayscale video! Specifically, do you use a filter first or is there a way to only use those colors on the color wheel?
Nothings silly when it comes to designing characters
Gray scale to color process video pleasu!
0:40 HOLY GATEKEEPING 😭
How do you rate a character for " reverse 1999" ? Reverse 1999 character design is so great and awesome! Please. ,PIKAT!!!!!!!
the book looked pretty unimportant at first, so you definitely got the impressiveness of it across. although the original did portray the medieval aspect a lot better imo. and i do wish you kept the cape. ps i would love to see a greyscale to color process in the future ❤
9:40 i can never run from cgp grey
Does anyone have the link for the discord bot used to generate the character?
It looks fun.
Idk it, but if I had to guess it might be a dnd character randomizer since the flaw given sounded like one from dnd. (Dungeons and Dragons)
wow 🌟
I WAS THERE
I wonder if the character was inspired by Robin from One Piece (they have a REALLY similar backstory)
I love the sonic unleashed music in this video (PLEASE someone tell me they know the game and have played it when they were younger..)
COULD YOU DO SOMETHING ON PROPORTIONS??!! NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES I TRY I CANT SEEM TO GET THEM RIGHT
Do u use the head as a size ref? If not, read loomis & analyze the proportions in relation to the head in the work of artists u like
@@Tenke0 idk i just can’t draw proportions, it doesn’t make sense in my brain (idk how else to explain it)
@@cheesekerperI mean even if it doesnt make sense to ur brain u should still be able to learn & do it. Since theres a bunch of general proportion landmarks both irl & stylized that you can learn & use.
Also, are you actually put serious time into studying & practising proportions?
jeez, hope i get that good one day
So… you just ended up designing the book and straps? Because I honestly don’t see much of a difference, xcept for a book, effects and pose
ehhh she did a lot more than just that. the whole vibe is different tbh. although i will say, i prefer the more "secretive" aura the character had in the original piece. if they're being accused of stealing i dont think he'd have the super important tome on his belt
Well yeah, you want her to redo the whole thing from scratch???
“So you just did this?” “I like the old design better” yeah and this is why you clicked on this video, you def need the help
You made him softer and he looks a bit younger and kind of like a new League of Legends character... -Didn't you use to be a LoL champ designer? Hahahah... I miss playing League...-
addict
@@youneedsomethinigotyou1028 I haven't played League in 5 months.
Great video, :)
gray scale to color NOW
Please release a grayscale to color video. :)
Hey so I'm trying to become an artist but I worry about using reference from other artists because I think it will make it harder to have an original artstyle, could you give advice about the matter
pls pls pls gimmie a greyscale to color process videoo
is this drawn in dungeon bot publicly available?
How do I get Pikat to critique my characters?
11:42 You wrong for this
I might be in the minority here but... i like the original one more 😳
Sometime "boring" design have their own charm
@@fadel_ramaagree
I disagree, it wasn't terrible (and was perfectly usable for a comic or something) but it didn't really tell much about the character, it just felt a lot like a first draft, the second one has a lot more going on and seems to have more thought into it
@@JeffJeffingson._.I don’t know how much of that is just the video introducing/repeating the backstory more before you saw the second one
They’re pretty much the same character with different prop and pose. With D&D characters especially you don’t want every one at the table to try and “steal the show” with a loud/over the top design
I wanted to know how I make a cool design when it's not something fantasy. Like your oc. I try and it always comes out lifeless.
Does anyone know where the music is from?
💜💜💜
I really like your videos and id love to join the community more but i dont know how to T.T like how do i submit art to get useful tips from pikat or the community? HOW DO I BECOME A MEMBER OF THE DARK COUNCIL ( ofcourse not in a parasocial way its not like i want to be personal friends)
I feel like patreon was mentioned before but I don’t see it in the description so I’m not sure :s the link to her twitch is in there though which may have more info?
@@ObsessedwithZelda2 thank you
What command can generate character prompts in discord?
Might be a Dungeons and Dragons character randomizer bot. Just a guess though
dynamic, add more fun to the design...
noted!
Whos chashuu??
Am I tripping or did the thumbnail change?
I think the first design was done better but Also you did give a good ideas to improve on it Cause ur telling him why you did it instead and he could learn from that
For me i think the middle area is taking too much space from the character specially the book
Any how Great video i loved it ♥
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