Why GREAT TUSK & TALONFLAME Are Amazing In Series 2 VGC | Pokemon Scarlet & Violet VGC 2023

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2024

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  • @silvercomics3517
    @silvercomics3517 Рік тому +82

    Moxie 4 weeks ago: Great Tusk kinda mid
    Moxie now: Great Tusk is dominating vgc

    • @MoxieBoosted
      @MoxieBoosted  Рік тому +41

      I can be wrong lol

    • @silvercomics3517
      @silvercomics3517 Рік тому +20

      @@MoxieBoosted A good man admits we he’s wrong o7

    • @okaysurefinewhatever
      @okaysurefinewhatever Рік тому +9

      Me when someone doesn't fully accurately prophesize the meta in an ever-evolving metagame:

    • @silvercomics3517
      @silvercomics3517 Рік тому +1

      @@okaysurefinewhatever Great Tusk has been a dominant force in singles. It was more likely for it to be great in vgc than not.

    • @th3_ph4ntomreborn31
      @th3_ph4ntomreborn31 Рік тому +2

      @@silvercomics3517 I mean the meta are really different, like iron Hans is top tier in VGC and UU in singles

  • @spoxx1802
    @spoxx1802 Рік тому +132

    I thought that I didn't have autism but then spent 40 minutes last night having an imaginary conversation in my head where I go over the entire history of VGC to a girl at my local Denny's

    • @GumOnTheWall
      @GumOnTheWall Рік тому +8

      Whenever I start daydreaming like that I stop myself as soon as realize I'm doing it. It's bad for your mind IMO

    • @GumOnTheWall
      @GumOnTheWall Рік тому

      @mikalcoleman4241 for me, daydreaming excessively turned into overthinking overthinking turned into anxiety anxiety turn into depression so I learned to limit my daily day dreaming lol

    • @michaelkarim57
      @michaelkarim57 Рік тому +3

      @Mikal Coleman YOU CARE ABOUT DENNY’S!?!?!?

    • @iDeviceGames
      @iDeviceGames Рік тому +3

      I just cackled

    • @MJunkis
      @MJunkis Рік тому +1

      Why the f Denny's?

  • @ilikebunns
    @ilikebunns Рік тому +7

    “Hello great tusk from Pokémon VGC 2023”
    “Hello great tusk from Smogon singles tournaments”
    *Both top tier and top usage*

  • @MoxieInfernape
    @MoxieInfernape Рік тому +14

    Few notes on this core:
    - It should be called “Talon Tusk”. That sounds so cool and fast, just like the core.
    - Yotam, Toler Webb, and 3 other guys all used the same Talon Tusk team and all did really well. 4/5 of them top cut, including Yotam going 9-1 and Toler going 9-1 and making it to Top 8.
    - So yeah this core is super strong. I used Great Tusk at Orlando myself and it’s so strong. The best Tusk out there for sure.

    • @jonathanbernhard5418
      @jonathanbernhard5418 Рік тому +1

      Great Tusk, nuff' said

    • @Tristanzabinski
      @Tristanzabinski Рік тому

      What’s your spread? And did you use life orb or sash? I can’t find the spreads of any of the top cutters

    • @MoxieInfernape
      @MoxieInfernape Рік тому

      @@Tristanzabinski I’ve been using Focus Sash - by far the best item for Tusk imo. It’s so nice late game when it needs to survive a hit from Bundle or Flutter Mane. And I’ve been running 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP with Jolly nature, to outspeed any Gholdengo and at least speed tie other Great Tusks.

    • @Tristanzabinski
      @Tristanzabinski Рік тому +1

      @@MoxieInfernape see but I also have fluttermane so I wanna sash that too. And probably give the life orb to great tusk

  • @christianshark6678
    @christianshark6678 Рік тому +15

    Great Tusk is definitely an interesting option I wanna try out. Although I think I would swap earthquake for ice spinner as that gives me even more options to use against flying types & can help get rid of Indeedee psychic terrain

    • @funkytoasts4768
      @funkytoasts4768 Рік тому +3

      Ice spinner honestly is one of my favourite moves as it's quite well distributed, tera normal dragonite loves it as it stops indeedee from splashing psychic terain. I think when pokemon home releases its going to be more important with the tapu's and rilaboom.

  • @EG01988
    @EG01988 Рік тому +4

    Core duo that’s gonna kill it, Magikarp and unknown🔥🔥🔥

  • @legendoftytoki7222
    @legendoftytoki7222 Рік тому +2

    When I first learned about this format, I wanted to try out great tusk with competitive kilowattrel due to arcanine starting to rise up once again, but then I get reminded by just how good priority tailwind is with talonflame having gale wings and a generally more favorable utility movepool

  • @trick6pokemon624
    @trick6pokemon624 Рік тому +1

    Given the rise of gothitelle and arcanine I thought it was time to bring grafaiai back. You can pick up double intimidate into the arcanine and it's partner and you can grab shadow tag from gothitelle for both partners to make perish song much harder and more dangerous to use because you can lock your partner with your own trap without trapping either enemy if you dont remove grafaiai first. Also being able to take double regenerator in some matches is a bonus. The most fun interaction I've had was doodling Lilikoal Chlorophyll lol.

  • @Lexaegis
    @Lexaegis Рік тому +3

    I ran AV Great Tusk at Orlando and it got me to 6-4 at my very first tournament so I definitely became a big Great Tusk lover after that. AV let me live things I had no business living and then just get KOs in return

  • @TheZapdos
    @TheZapdos Рік тому +2

    Moxie Boosted fails to realize the tusk core of Great Tusk/Iron Bundle/Flutter Mane/Talonflame. Now you know. Spread the word. This shall be the new CHALK core

  • @treygreypaws3689
    @treygreypaws3689 Рік тому +1

    I noticed it picking up but Grass Tera Armarouge I'm running just bodies it. Just set up tr. Blast it with energy ball, armor cannon if steel tera or expanding force they are bold enough not to tera

  • @SnarkyShane
    @SnarkyShane Рік тому +3

    Maybe a cop out answer but I think Grimmsnarl is going to come surging back and Grimm+Arcanine are going to be on nearly every team. SpiritBreak/SuckerPunch FakeOut PartingShot TWave/ScaryFace is a REALLY strong and disruptive moveset with all the frail offensive mons dominating the format right now. In the 2 US regionals so far we've seen Garganacl and Perish trap come out on top, I think as the meta develops more we'll see a harder lean into defensive strategies.

    • @girlgaming7346
      @girlgaming7346 Рік тому

      Steel/ground Tera Tauros a big counter to grims especially cause ppl don’t expect raging bull breaks screens

  • @shadednights6870
    @shadednights6870 Рік тому +2

    The pinical of glass Canon. It's speed is what kills it.

  • @mdbigboi191
    @mdbigboi191 Рік тому +2

    I'm just gonna run a goated perish trap team, what could go wrong. It's not like ladder hasn't developed counter play.

  • @Jmandal2
    @Jmandal2 Рік тому +2

    Here I am laying waste to this core with my Graganacl Tropius Arcanine Tinkaton quad. Just cracked 1500 in the world!

  • @michaelkarim57
    @michaelkarim57 Рік тому +4

    Everything is weak to ground and nothing is resistant to it in this format, it’s just there are few fundamentally solid ground types in this dex

    • @420Millar
      @420Millar Рік тому

      I noticed that as well when everyone was testing for series 2. I chose Mudsdale as my tusk alternative since I felt it has different advantages.

    • @michaelkarim57
      @michaelkarim57 Рік тому +2

      @@420Millar I’ve literally seen teams with 5 ground weaknesses and no resists, people seem very reliant on using Grass and Flying Teras to check Great Tusk offensively

  • @cre8009
    @cre8009 Рік тому +1

    I enjoy that the entire game plan for Great Tusk is just Kill, no other options

  • @420Millar
    @420Millar Рік тому +1

    I gotta rewatch the in Orlando tourney, I don't remember tusk being used in any of the showcased matches. I'm genuinely curious how much it actually used, versus just being a bench warmer.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Рік тому

      Is basically a nuke, specially the Life orb variant. It destroys something before it gets attacked and KOd. It has middling speed so it needs tailwind to work properly, but boy does it work properly under good circumstances.

    • @420Millar
      @420Millar Рік тому

      @@N12015 I watched the first rounds again, did notice it was used in the showcases. I feel like it didn't excel really, but it's not like there's to many alternatives, and it does what it needs to.

  • @kuroba4068
    @kuroba4068 Рік тому

    I'm always a Great Tusk believer even though you said that it's not good in your earlier video, I always start with it with speed boosted roaring moon

  • @supremechaosbeing2696
    @supremechaosbeing2696 Рік тому +1

    I made a shitty team where I use gravity and orthworm shed tail out to great tusk. then I tera ground earthquake next to the orthworm while it helping hands

    • @supremechaosbeing2696
      @supremechaosbeing2696 Рік тому

      also has another mode with boomburst noivern(also has telepathy to be next to The Tuskmeister) next to a sableye, also with helping hand

  • @tcm_smitty
    @tcm_smitty Рік тому +2

    Would murkrow not be better than talonflame so you can haze away your stat drops?

    • @MoxieBoosted
      @MoxieBoosted  Рік тому +4

      I adress this at 16:00

    • @shadednights6870
      @shadednights6870 Рік тому +2

      Murkrow would just sit on the field doing nothing. Yeah you can Haze the stat drops but if you facing a special attacker that one shots regardless like bundle. The Haze would be pointless. Now you have a knocked out Tusk and a krow that can't deal damage.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Рік тому

      @@MoxieBoosted 6:06 you meant

  • @MJunkis
    @MJunkis Рік тому

    I think Flutter Mane will be around all Series, as well Iron Hands, but i do hope we get to see more Roaring Moon around. It has great stats and very good moves, but i don't think this Acrobatics build is the best way to go, but then again, i wound't knew what to improve.

  • @cdt5559
    @cdt5559 Рік тому

    Still trying to figure out how James Evans made tyranitar make on his variant. Seems counterintuitive when I first look at it

    • @velvetstigma4961
      @velvetstigma4961 Рік тому

      He has flying tera on Tyranitar. Its like using Tailwind roaring moon with flying tera

  • @tocoymevoy54
    @tocoymevoy54 Рік тому

    QOTA:
    Gravity Sandy shocks with espathra its accually preaty insane. First of all its lumina crash, which makes Sandy's damage devastating. The best part is that Gravity boost acc, so espathra has a 100% chance to hit a hypnosis and with speed boost its almost garanteed. Also, u can use espathra with batton pass and give his speed to another pokemon like gholdengo.
    Sry if my english is not that good lol

  • @alienation5118
    @alienation5118 Рік тому +1

    A man got 14th with light clay sableye at that event

  • @Fivesallround
    @Fivesallround Рік тому

    The timestamp covered the thumbnail for me and it looked like it said Top Tier Cope lol. Took me a good minute to realize what it actually was

  • @legendoftytoki7222
    @legendoftytoki7222 Рік тому +1

    PRIMAL NOSE STRIKES AGAIN!

  • @infernacraft5269
    @infernacraft5269 Рік тому

    I’ve been waiting for this video, Great Tusk is in my top 5 favorite Pokémon and Talonflame has been my favorite regional bird and Fluttermane is second best Paradox form after Great Tusk

  • @mrtripdub
    @mrtripdub Рік тому

    Grass Knot/Rock Tomb Spidops, checkmate Boosted

  • @trainertealvgc2267
    @trainertealvgc2267 Рік тому

    No one expects my old school Special Talonflame…

  • @hexanime8743
    @hexanime8743 Рік тому

    WEBSITE NAME PLZ

  • @baeruttgaming4779
    @baeruttgaming4779 Рік тому

    Not a dominant core, but Iron Treads Iron Valiant pair well together

  • @alexanderchoi8427
    @alexanderchoi8427 Рік тому

    if talon doesnt have a fire move doesnt it get walled by mon like corvi

    • @arfur5696
      @arfur5696 Рік тому

      That corv will probably get burned by will-o-wisp

  • @Eduard0Moreira
    @Eduard0Moreira Рік тому

    Anyone with Great Tusk + Talonflame rentals??? Really want to try these but found none and no time to make it :(

  • @coryalford5227
    @coryalford5227 Рік тому

    They did my boy Iron Treads dirty 😭

  • @miscellaneousmastermind8817

    Why did Emilio get 5th if they're 10-0? I'm not familiar with how the rankings work

  • @drakejohnson5386
    @drakejohnson5386 Рік тому

    I just thought of a stupid challenge/ game you can do in doubles. You bring 6 pokemon, there are 5 rounds and in each round you can only bring 2 pokemon. Pokemon hold 'em would be this games name.
    It is more luck based, but I could see a genuine meta game developing. Innovative sets that pack a lot of coverage would be popular.
    One reason I thought of this is due to how in tournaments you see a lot of people bringing the same pokemon and same leads in two matches in a row

  • @sanga1380
    @sanga1380 Рік тому

    What’s next, “Goodra cleans house in VGC”

  • @sephikong8323
    @sephikong8323 Рік тому +1

    Not even doubles is safe from the second coming of Landorus

  • @JordanWindhamBenford
    @JordanWindhamBenford Рік тому

    I run body press on great tusk. You don't even need set up. Just invest the evs

    • @MoxieBoosted
      @MoxieBoosted  Рік тому

      It has the same attack and defense stats, close combat has 40 more BP

  • @mattmanley7118
    @mattmanley7118 Рік тому +1

    I love Talon always will it’s nerf was unjustified in my opinion especially due to power creep. Nature and EVs on both? I have a jolly tusk sounds odd but it works any advice?

    • @mattmanley7118
      @mattmanley7118 Рік тому

      @Moxie why covert cloak on Talon? Why not sitrus or leftovers on it?

    • @jamec373
      @jamec373 Рік тому

      @@mattmanley7118 to stop Fake Out so you can get those crucial support moves off i.e. Tailwind, Taunt, Will-O-Wisp

  • @GumOnTheWall
    @GumOnTheWall Рік тому

    Aw I thought I made this core up. Don't tell all my secrets

  • @aoxVGC
    @aoxVGC Рік тому

    I actually prefer Garchomp over tusk to perform a similar role but that's just me 🤷

  • @n-man8208
    @n-man8208 Рік тому

    Drop that next Gen bingo card yah?

  • @tsumi88
    @tsumi88 Рік тому

    I think talontusk has a better ring to it personally

  • @tbone6032
    @tbone6032 Рік тому +2

    It should be called “Great Flame.” Way cooler

  • @n-man8208
    @n-man8208 Рік тому +1

    Drop that next Gen bingo card yah?