Swords bard feels like the ultimate main character class, you get all the charisma and dialogue bonuses while also being a master at melee, ranged and spellcasting all at the same time.
Strong agree!! They’re strong with melee weapons, can shoot their bow 4x per turn, and are full spell casters. They also get some of the best dialogue options in the game. Sooo good on a first playthrough!!
Barbarians are very beginner friendly, imo. Specially at lower levels, when you have poor weapon enchantments and reckless attack helps a lot if you pick great weapon master as feat.
@@Bruno-ki9iz the best barbarian builds are throwzerkers or tiger/bear heart which do get a bit more complex on what you should be doing to maximize damage/survivability. The fighter is much more straight forward if you want to play a melee class, especially the battle master which has lots of great crowd control options as well. But your reasoning does make sense, reckless attack is nice but the fact it gives enemies advantage on you makes it a bit tricky
@JasonDunna Thing is, for a new player Barbarian still gets the job done really well, and new players are unlikely to do genuinely optmized builds so having a class that gives you extra survivability (as I'd say that Bear Heart Barbarian is REALLY good for a first playthrough) and beter hit chance whilst being baseline easy to pilot is very important. Also, Reckless Attack giving advantage to your enemies is actually one of it's best attributes since it gives big incentives to the AI to attack you instead of your teammates which is very good for crowd control to have the enemies funnel towards the tank by themselves (and again, Bear Barbarian are so tanky they can easily manage that extra pressure)
Great idea for a tier list and I think you nailed it. The only thing I would change would be the ranking of Ranger but only for the Gloom Stalker subclass. At level 3 I think it's the strongest class in Act 1 since you get an extra attack with 1-8 bonus dmg to start every fight and you get +3 initiative and 3m of movement. I would rank that in A tier or maybe even S since the Gloom Stalker is pretty simple to play too.
Yeah gloomstalker is really good early on, but I feel like most people pick the beast master for their first time which is good but a bit more complex with the spell slots and directing your animal companion what to do. The gloomstalker is seriously good though
Bard did get a huge buff in 5e/BG3. Full casting alone is just crazy. Then subclasses either that leans into more extra spells and skill boosts or a class that lets you do extra melee / ranged damage using a seperate resource to spells slots. That's bonkers.
Oh yeah sword bard is just crazy. It can make more bow attacks than a fighter with their slashing ranged flourish and can also cast level 6 spells, nuts
My first play through was a monk and I happened to stumble upon a tavern brawler monk build and man as a first play through, it was a blast dealing absurd amounts of damage. For me personally I’d say open hand monk is s tier even for beginners.
A lot of it's power comes from tavern brawler and strength potions, I say in the video I think its S tier in terms of power, but as a new player if you don't take tavern brawler or strength potions it may feel a bit weaker. Open hand monk is awesome though and pretty straight forward, four elements and shadow monks get to be a bit confusing though
My first playthrough was a Deep Gnome Lore Bard, with dips into Wizard (for scribing spells from scrolls), Storm Sorcerer (for Tempestuous Flight), Oghma Knowledge Domain Cleric (mostly for medium armor proficiency while staying on theme), and Fey Warlock (for Eldritch blasts, and because I didn't realize they were the worst Warlocks yet).
Hey that’s not a bad team! Honestly you can beat the game with any of these but some are powerful and straight forward how to play. Storm sorcerer is really great though
@@JasonDunna I personally would put sorcerer a lot lower in the tier list for new players because it took me a long time to figure out how to use sorcery points effectively. I don't think I realized they would recharge or that unused points would be lost on a long rest, so I thought I had to save them up for when in the most dire need. I don't recall using any sorcery points until battling Orin. I only took Storm Sorcerer to change my spellcasting modifier back to Charisma after taking a level in Wizard, but did get a lot of use out of Tempestuous Flight. One of the least useful but most notable uses of Tempestuous Flight was when I used it right in front of Lady Ether just seconds before initiating the conversation where she says "A Githyanki is just as likely to forsake its violent nature as a Gnome is to fly." That seems to mean something different coming from someone who had literally just witnesses a Gnome flying. It wasn't until my second playthrough that I realized she would say that to those who were not flying gnomes. (In my second playthrough I was a Duergar Paladin, with some dips into other classes, who intentionally broke his oath killing Philomeen after taking her Runepowder so that I could try controlling undead in Act 2. In that game I tried a mod to increase the level cap to 20 and half the xp needed per level, so I was level 14 when I faced Ketheric and was able to dominate The Apostle of Myrkul before he could take a single turn. He quickly killed all his minions for me and then just stood there letting me hit him while not in combat. That soft locked the game as he didn't drop a netherstone though, so I had to save scum. At level 20 I managed to take control of Ansur, thanks to my Wildmagic Sorcerer Gale's Bend Luck ability making the undead dragon fail his saving throw when I used it with only a 20% chance of success. My pet dragon had 0 movement speed and wouldn't follow me anywhere but the Rivington or South Span waypoints. )
@@JasonDunna no problem! I’m doing a Wyll Origin run and I’m using your builds for my party. I doing Bardlock Wyll, Radiating Orb Monk Karlach, Tempest Cleric Shadowheart, and Fire Evoc Wizard Gale. It’s not Honor mode though 😅
@@Quantum_Bluntzradiating orb monk Karlach that’s so awesome!! It’s a really fun build because you can stack the orbs quickly. It’s great to protect your team Soul coins can be nice there too for the extra 1d4 fire when below 25% health / raging since you can punch so much with a monk
@@JasonDunna nope, it was my first experience with it, all I knew about dnd were the story videos and memes around UA-cam, so I knew that wizard has the habit of dying from 1d4 of comment to big and abjuration wizard was tank, so the idea was to make a immortal wizard, and it worked, aside from a few deaths on act one from being clueless I barely died on the later portions of the game
@@BRLink1that’s awesome man it requires a lot of set up to understand but hey, you did it! The sorcerer is much tankier and easier to play in general so rolling a wizard first playthrough is gnarly
Other BG3 streamers really sleep on the Druid as a fun class. My girlfriend never played video games/dnd before, but once I told her she could change into a velociraptor and owlbear she was hooked lol. Great video as always, you going to do a tier list on the beast master monsters?
Warlock is by far my favorite Class. Despite the Subclass. Regarding the rank you just did for beginners, I'd put it in top A-tier at least. Meddling between the S-tier. Yes, you only receive two spell slots with this class, but they level up alongside your character AND they recharge on short rests, unlike other classes. To me, that is kinda broken when you know how to use short rests correctly (and it gets even better if you have a Bard on the party that allows you to get a 3rd short rest). And disregarding the Spell Slots, you can rely fully and unlimitedly on cantrips. And, look at that: The best cantrip in the game is yours by default (Eldritch Blast)!!! Do you wanna be a half cast/half martial character? You can! Pact of the Blade converts your damage status from Strenght/Dexterity to Charisma (A.K.A. your main stat) by simply binding your weapon to your hand (Also gives you proficiency with that weapon, even if you don't have it by default). And with all of this, you still can cast spells or use Cantrips. And as you said, Warlock's Extra Atrack stacks with other classes' extra attack (Except in Honor Mode). And your character will also have the Charisma to do very well in all of the Dialogues in the game. The ONLY ONE downfall of the Warlock is not even a problem for your character (unless you play as Wyll) because it only has a real impact on a Tabletop Game, which is your Patron. In DND, Warlocks usually can't go against their patrons, even if they're evil and want to do harm. If you have an original character, that doesn't apply to you in BG3. =)
For truly new players, YMMV a lot of course based on previous knowledge. When I was new I knew literally 0 about dnd and picked bard because it seemed like the perfect party face (it is tbh) but the large number of spells and available actions left me struggling with choice paralysis on many turns, especially when I came from DOS2 where you don't have spell slots to conserve for example. It all makes sense now after hundreds of hours but at the time I found it all very confusing, especially compared to the three I rolled around with the most act 1 (Karlach, Lae'zel, and Astarion) who basically you just click the attack button when you don't know what else to do 😂 But I still think Bard I'd still put in A tier just because you can talk your way out of almost anything even if your build is a hot mess. It almost feels like they designed the game sometimes with bard Tav in mind.
Bard dialogue options are incredible!! I must ask, what subclass did you go with? Sword bard is seriously so good. Flourish with your bow shooting someone 4 times is awesome, and then if you get the band of the mystic scoundrel you can bonus action enchantment or illusion spells. Its so much fun, especially with the helmet of arcane acuity - but that gets to being more complex. Dex classes are pretty fun though because they will have decent armor class and attack rolls
@@JasonDunna I picked Lore because it sounded very protagonist-like, not because of any combat reasons. I know sword bard is OP as hell, but I didn't know that at the time
My first character was a moon druid. I didn’t really understand the mechanics of the game at the time, so I was just brute forcing my way through with owl bear wild shape 😭
@@JasonDunna omg you like Elden Ring, bg3, AND Pokemon?! Being a fan of all those games and Azumarill makes you the coolest person ever in my eyes lmao
@@JuryVGC hahahaha my very first live streams on here were all shiny hunting in Pokémon! Been a lifelong fan. I have like 500+ shinies between scarlet, legends Arceus and Pokémon Go
@@JasonDunna I like to hunt in the older games for nostalgia, but I have a good amount of shinies in those games too! Right now I’m doing like a shiny dream team in Soul Silver. I only have half the team, but once I’m finished it’ll be: Feraligatr, Dragonite, Nidoking, Azumarill, Skarmory, Ampharos
@@e-duh3529 heck yeah it’s just so good. Battlemaster or eldritch knight are fun! I’d recommend BM to new players though it’s much more straight forward
I’m not sure if I discovered a bug, but while doing a multi class into monk for one level. So I can use unarmed strikes. It changed my sorcerer’s hitting requirements for firebolt from charisma to wisdom. Making my firebolt miss every time because I had a low base wisdom. Prior to that the requirement for hitting and damage was cha
I feel like the best classes for new players are charisma based and going full bonkers on the enemy and the worst are just anything spell based classes because of the amount of counterspells you encounter at the game and the management of longresting and saving spellslots In my first run as a wizard I went full cantrips like fireball and was saving spells for bigfights and never get to use all of them before resting😂
Swords Bard is arguably the most powerful class unless you multiclass, but for a newbie Lore Bard is probably the best non-multiclass caster. You end up with almost every good spell by level 10, every skill, and reasonable weapon proficiencies.
@@JasonDunna Sorcerer is absolutely amazing , especially if you do just a little multiclassing. My favorite blaster build is Sorcerer 8 / Divination Wizard 2 / Tempest Cleric 2. The appeal of Lore Bard or Swords Bard for me is that ability to do just everything.
I'd disagree with part of the list. My criteria for "best class for NEW players" would be: self-sufficient, reliable and straight forward. So my list would look like Barbarian - S tier. They are fairly "dumb" to play - just rage and attack stuff and you can't go wrong - they are pretty strong in combat. They also have some unique dialogue options, that can make lots of encounters easier. Bard - F tier. They are more of a support class and at least in the early game they don't have access to a lot of good offensive spells, so they have to rely strongly on their allies. Cleric - B tier. I would put them in A, but the Shadowheart origin being a Trickster Cleric by default (which is really bad) is dragging clerics down. They do have some strong utility, and some strong builds, but their decision making isn't the most straight-forward one. Druid - A tier. They are self-sufficient and reliable, but depending on the sub-class, not the most straight forward to play. The majority of their spells requires concentration, and managing that efficiently can be a bit of a burden for new players. Fighter - S tier. As dumb and reliable as the Barbarians. I'd actually say that the Champion isn't half as bad as some people make it out to be. It passively makes you stronger, and you don't need to manage your maneuver dice. It's also better, if you're going for a throwing build, which doesn't benefit from almost any of the combat maneuvers. Monk - S tier. Monks are just incredibly strong in this game, and there are tons of gear for them, which nobody else would contest. Paladin - C tier. Paladins are strong - they can deal incredible amounts of damage in a single turn. But... managing your Oath can be extremely difficult for new players, unless they want to be Oathbreakers. I suppose that a Vengeance Paladin can be fairly easy to keep, UNLESS players try to unlock some achievements, which would force them to make decisions, that would break their Oath (such as saving Sazza). They also have fairly few spell slots, so managing them is also fairly difficult. Ranger - C tier. Rangers have some really strong multiclassing paths, but pure ones aren't all that impressive. Rogue - F tier. They are fairly straight forward to play, but definitely not self-sufficient of reliable. They are a great class to multiclass into, but pure Rogues are rather weak and unimpressive. Sorcerer - A tier. They are strong and reliable (unless they are Wild Magic subclass), but managing their spell slots and metamagic can be a bit cumbersome for new players. Warlock - B tier. Their Eldrich Blast build would be S tier, but can't rely that a new player would know about it. And managing only 2-3 spell slots per combat is fairly weak, especially against bosses with high health (F tier). So the average between S and F would be B. Wizard - S tier. They can unlock all of the spells, so they are extremely diverse and thus reliable and self-sufficient. While not the most straight-forward to play, they don't have the same problem as Sorcerers, where on top of spell slots, they would also need to manage metamagic points, so I'm putting them one tier above. Although proper wizard builds to require some advanced game knowledge...
Putting Wizard S tier and then saying it requires advanced game knowledge kinda goes against the idea of being a good first class. Draconic Sorcerer will deal more damage and have much better survivability, and the storm sorcerer can fly away to stay alive. Charisma is much better for a first time player than intelligence too Bard in F tier just makes no sense to me. Sword bard gets 2 attacks and they can flourish and hit 4 people per turn, so offensively they’re great. They are charisma based as well being a great face of the party! They mostly get crowd control spells but vicious mockery is a solid way to give disadvantage on attack rolls keeping everyone safe. The extra short rest is also quite nice
@@JasonDunna I suppose I can bring Wizards down to A tier. I mostly put them in S, because of their ability to learn all the spells. Will they need all of them? Most definitely not. But having them at their disposal at all times IS convenient. They can even learn some advanced spells (from the tower), that no other class has access to. Although I'd give new players about 25% chance to find all of them on their first playthrough. As for the Bard... their extra attack comes at level 6, unlike other classes who get it at level 5. AND their fighting style is restricted to one-handed weapons. Meanwhile, the strongest weapons in the game are great weapons, or throwable weapons (that come back to you). There certainly are some builds you can do with one-handed weapons, but they aren't nearly as straight forward. Not to mention that barbarians and fighters (who are the other ones who rely on weapons) have 3 attacks after level 5 (frenzy barbarian) or 11 (fighter).
@@Khantia Archer swords bard sort of gets extra attack at level 3 already with the flourishes, though it's a bit limited. Then at level 5 you recharge it on short rest and can use it a lot more freely, and at 6 you can do 4 attacks per turn. As for the early levels you can dual wield hand crossbows and have cloud of daggers at level 3 which has nice damage, and you can even outright skip a lot of combat by talking your way out of it
Swap cleric and barb. New players won't understand why sacred flame sucks and uninstall the game from the frustration of missing every attack. Barb doesn't need knowledge to have fun.
Sacred flame having a dex save when the starting area has a ton of enemies with high dexterity sucks hahaha. It’s almost better just to do melee attacks
Yeah also shadowheart kinda sucks without respec, terrible stat spread and the worst domain, and her fire bolt uses int so it always misses too. Many new players will think cleric is a weak class because of that
You put warlock as kinda harder than it can really be because of pact of the blade but you don't have to use it and you can just eldrich blast all the time for brainless tactics
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Swords bard feels like the ultimate main character class, you get all the charisma and dialogue bonuses while also being a master at melee, ranged and spellcasting all at the same time.
Strong agree!! They’re strong with melee weapons, can shoot their bow 4x per turn, and are full spell casters. They also get some of the best dialogue options in the game. Sooo good on a first playthrough!!
Barbarian or you mean barb barb?
Barbarians are very beginner friendly, imo. Specially at lower levels, when you have poor weapon enchantments and reckless attack helps a lot if you pick great weapon master as feat.
@@Bruno-ki9iz the best barbarian builds are throwzerkers or tiger/bear heart which do get a bit more complex on what you should be doing to maximize damage/survivability. The fighter is much more straight forward if you want to play a melee class, especially the battle master which has lots of great crowd control options as well. But your reasoning does make sense, reckless attack is nice but the fact it gives enemies advantage on you makes it a bit tricky
@JasonDunna Thing is, for a new player Barbarian still gets the job done really well, and new players are unlikely to do genuinely optmized builds so having a class that gives you extra survivability (as I'd say that Bear Heart Barbarian is REALLY good for a first playthrough) and beter hit chance whilst being baseline easy to pilot is very important.
Also, Reckless Attack giving advantage to your enemies is actually one of it's best attributes since it gives big incentives to the AI to attack you instead of your teammates which is very good for crowd control to have the enemies funnel towards the tank by themselves (and again, Bear Barbarian are so tanky they can easily manage that extra pressure)
I heard that you can mix a Bear Barbarian with a Moon Druid and make the Tankiest Tank in the game. Never tried it, though...
Great idea for a tier list and I think you nailed it. The only thing I would change would be the ranking of Ranger but only for the Gloom Stalker subclass. At level 3 I think it's the strongest class in Act 1 since you get an extra attack with 1-8 bonus dmg to start every fight and you get +3 initiative and 3m of movement. I would rank that in A tier or maybe even S since the Gloom Stalker is pretty simple to play too.
Yeah gloomstalker is really good early on, but I feel like most people pick the beast master for their first time which is good but a bit more complex with the spell slots and directing your animal companion what to do.
The gloomstalker is seriously good though
My barbarian play through taught me so much about how combat works in this game
Oh yeah they’re great since they’re tanky and have some cool mechanics
Bard did get a huge buff in 5e/BG3. Full casting alone is just crazy. Then subclasses either that leans into more extra spells and skill boosts or a class that lets you do extra melee / ranged damage using a seperate resource to spells slots. That's bonkers.
Oh yeah sword bard is just crazy. It can make more bow attacks than a fighter with their slashing ranged flourish and can also cast level 6 spells, nuts
My first play through was a monk and I happened to stumble upon a tavern brawler monk build and man as a first play through, it was a blast dealing absurd amounts of damage. For me personally I’d say open hand monk is s tier even for beginners.
A lot of it's power comes from tavern brawler and strength potions, I say in the video I think its S tier in terms of power, but as a new player if you don't take tavern brawler or strength potions it may feel a bit weaker. Open hand monk is awesome though and pretty straight forward, four elements and shadow monks get to be a bit confusing though
My first playthrough was a Deep Gnome Lore Bard, with dips into Wizard (for scribing spells from scrolls), Storm Sorcerer (for Tempestuous Flight), Oghma Knowledge Domain Cleric (mostly for medium armor proficiency while staying on theme), and Fey Warlock (for Eldritch blasts, and because I didn't realize they were the worst Warlocks yet).
Hey that’s not a bad team! Honestly you can beat the game with any of these but some are powerful and straight forward how to play. Storm sorcerer is really great though
@@JasonDunna I personally would put sorcerer a lot lower in the tier list for new players because it took me a long time to figure out how to use sorcery points effectively. I don't think I realized they would recharge or that unused points would be lost on a long rest, so I thought I had to save them up for when in the most dire need. I don't recall using any sorcery points until battling Orin.
I only took Storm Sorcerer to change my spellcasting modifier back to Charisma after taking a level in Wizard, but did get a lot of use out of Tempestuous Flight.
One of the least useful but most notable uses of Tempestuous Flight was when I used it right in front of Lady Ether just seconds before initiating the conversation where she says "A Githyanki is just as likely to forsake its violent nature as a Gnome is to fly." That seems to mean something different coming from someone who had literally just witnesses a Gnome flying. It wasn't until my second playthrough that I realized she would say that to those who were not flying gnomes.
(In my second playthrough I was a Duergar Paladin, with some dips into other classes, who intentionally broke his oath killing Philomeen after taking her Runepowder so that I could try controlling undead in Act 2. In that game I tried a mod to increase the level cap to 20 and half the xp needed per level, so I was level 14 when I faced Ketheric and was able to dominate The Apostle of Myrkul before he could take a single turn. He quickly killed all his minions for me and then just stood there letting me hit him while not in combat. That soft locked the game as he didn't drop a netherstone though, so I had to save scum. At level 20 I managed to take control of Ansur, thanks to my Wildmagic Sorcerer Gale's Bend Luck ability making the undead dragon fail his saving throw when I used it with only a 20% chance of success. My pet dragon had 0 movement speed and wouldn't follow me anywhere but the Rivington or South Span waypoints. )
Wait, hold on man! I got 2 other videos of yours to catch up on for BG3 😅
Jk all love. Loving this grind of yours 💪
Hahahaha bro I am concentrating on haste right now 😂 grinding really hard lately, I appreciate the support brother
@@JasonDunna no problem! I’m doing a Wyll Origin run and I’m using your builds for my party.
I doing Bardlock Wyll, Radiating Orb Monk Karlach, Tempest Cleric Shadowheart, and Fire Evoc Wizard Gale.
It’s not Honor mode though 😅
@@Quantum_Bluntzradiating orb monk Karlach that’s so awesome!! It’s a really fun build because you can stack the orbs quickly. It’s great to protect your team
Soul coins can be nice there too for the extra 1d4 fire when below 25% health / raging since you can punch so much with a monk
Monk for me was my favorite
Open hand monk 9 rogue thief 3 is so incredibly powerful
My first playtrough i went with abjuration wizard
On my second i went with abjuration wizard
And now on my third, doing bard
@@BRLink1 wizard first playthrough is brave! You must be a DnD player?
@@JasonDunna nope, it was my first experience with it, all I knew about dnd were the story videos and memes around UA-cam, so I knew that wizard has the habit of dying from 1d4 of comment to big and abjuration wizard was tank, so the idea was to make a immortal wizard, and it worked, aside from a few deaths on act one from being clueless I barely died on the later portions of the game
@@BRLink1that’s awesome man it requires a lot of set up to understand but hey, you did it! The sorcerer is much tankier and easier to play in general so rolling a wizard first playthrough is gnarly
Other BG3 streamers really sleep on the Druid as a fun class. My girlfriend never played video games/dnd before, but once I told her she could change into a velociraptor and owlbear she was hooked lol. Great video as always, you going to do a tier list on the beast master monsters?
I think the druid is by far the most underrated class!! Its seriously so good.
Beast master summons tier list is on the way!
You’re the best!
Great video, thank you! :)
Thanks so much!! I appreciate that
Warlock is by far my favorite Class. Despite the Subclass. Regarding the rank you just did for beginners, I'd put it in top A-tier at least. Meddling between the S-tier.
Yes, you only receive two spell slots with this class, but they level up alongside your character AND they recharge on short rests, unlike other classes. To me, that is kinda broken when you know how to use short rests correctly (and it gets even better if you have a Bard on the party that allows you to get a 3rd short rest).
And disregarding the Spell Slots, you can rely fully and unlimitedly on cantrips. And, look at that: The best cantrip in the game is yours by default (Eldritch Blast)!!!
Do you wanna be a half cast/half martial character? You can! Pact of the Blade converts your damage status from Strenght/Dexterity to Charisma (A.K.A. your main stat) by simply binding your weapon to your hand (Also gives you proficiency with that weapon, even if you don't have it by default). And with all of this, you still can cast spells or use Cantrips. And as you said, Warlock's Extra Atrack stacks with other classes' extra attack (Except in Honor Mode).
And your character will also have the Charisma to do very well in all of the Dialogues in the game. The ONLY ONE downfall of the Warlock is not even a problem for your character (unless you play as Wyll) because it only has a real impact on a Tabletop Game, which is your Patron. In DND, Warlocks usually can't go against their patrons, even if they're evil and want to do harm. If you have an original character, that doesn't apply to you in BG3. =)
For truly new players, YMMV a lot of course based on previous knowledge. When I was new I knew literally 0 about dnd and picked bard because it seemed like the perfect party face (it is tbh) but the large number of spells and available actions left me struggling with choice paralysis on many turns, especially when I came from DOS2 where you don't have spell slots to conserve for example. It all makes sense now after hundreds of hours but at the time I found it all very confusing, especially compared to the three I rolled around with the most act 1 (Karlach, Lae'zel, and Astarion) who basically you just click the attack button when you don't know what else to do 😂
But I still think Bard I'd still put in A tier just because you can talk your way out of almost anything even if your build is a hot mess. It almost feels like they designed the game sometimes with bard Tav in mind.
Bard dialogue options are incredible!! I must ask, what subclass did you go with? Sword bard is seriously so good. Flourish with your bow shooting someone 4 times is awesome, and then if you get the band of the mystic scoundrel you can bonus action enchantment or illusion spells. Its so much fun, especially with the helmet of arcane acuity - but that gets to being more complex. Dex classes are pretty fun though because they will have decent armor class and attack rolls
@@JasonDunna I picked Lore because it sounded very protagonist-like, not because of any combat reasons. I know sword bard is OP as hell, but I didn't know that at the time
Great information, a bit rambling and lots of digression, but there are loads of great tips.
Thanks, I know I went off on a tangent at certain points but I didn’t want to miss all the points I wanted to touch on
My first character was a moon druid. I didn’t really understand the mechanics of the game at the time, so I was just brute forcing my way through with owl bear wild shape 😭
Owl bear is seriously so good. The moon Druid is underrated and the best tank in the game!
PS I’m a huge Azumarill fan I have a few shinies hahaha
@@JasonDunna omg you like Elden Ring, bg3, AND Pokemon?! Being a fan of all those games and Azumarill makes you the coolest person ever in my eyes lmao
@@JuryVGC hahahaha my very first live streams on here were all shiny hunting in Pokémon! Been a lifelong fan. I have like 500+ shinies between scarlet, legends Arceus and Pokémon Go
@@JasonDunna I like to hunt in the older games for nostalgia, but I have a good amount of shinies in those games too! Right now I’m doing like a shiny dream team in Soul Silver. I only have half the team, but once I’m finished it’ll be: Feraligatr, Dragonite, Nidoking, Azumarill, Skarmory, Ampharos
"BEST VILLAIN Tier List" next.
Its on the way! Can't wait to drop it
Fighter gonna be triple S tier lesgoooo
@@e-duh3529 heck yeah it’s just so good. Battlemaster or eldritch knight are fun! I’d recommend BM to new players though it’s much more straight forward
Next is the x. It is actually one of my favorite classes 😁
What do you mean!
I’m not sure if I discovered a bug, but while doing a multi class into monk for one level. So I can use unarmed strikes. It changed my sorcerer’s hitting requirements for firebolt from charisma to wisdom.
Making my firebolt miss every time because I had a low base wisdom.
Prior to that the requirement for hitting and damage was cha
Hmmm that’s strange. Maybe respec and try again that sounds odd
I feel like the best classes for new players are charisma based and going full bonkers on the enemy and the worst are just anything spell based classes because of the amount of counterspells you encounter at the game and the management of longresting and saving spellslots
In my first run as a wizard I went full cantrips like fireball and was saving spells for bigfights and never get to use all of them before resting😂
Swords Bard is arguably the most powerful class unless you multiclass, but for a newbie Lore Bard is probably the best non-multiclass caster. You end up with almost every good spell by level 10, every skill, and reasonable weapon proficiencies.
Yea lore bard is pretty solid! I prefer the sorcerer for a caster since they get built in mage armor or can fly but sword bard is my absolute favorite
@@JasonDunna Sorcerer is absolutely amazing , especially if you do just a little multiclassing. My favorite blaster build is Sorcerer 8 / Divination Wizard 2 / Tempest Cleric 2.
The appeal of Lore Bard or Swords Bard for me is that ability to do just everything.
I'd disagree with part of the list. My criteria for "best class for NEW players" would be: self-sufficient, reliable and straight forward. So my list would look like
Barbarian - S tier. They are fairly "dumb" to play - just rage and attack stuff and you can't go wrong - they are pretty strong in combat. They also have some unique dialogue options, that can make lots of encounters easier.
Bard - F tier. They are more of a support class and at least in the early game they don't have access to a lot of good offensive spells, so they have to rely strongly on their allies.
Cleric - B tier. I would put them in A, but the Shadowheart origin being a Trickster Cleric by default (which is really bad) is dragging clerics down. They do have some strong utility, and some strong builds, but their decision making isn't the most straight-forward one.
Druid - A tier. They are self-sufficient and reliable, but depending on the sub-class, not the most straight forward to play. The majority of their spells requires concentration, and managing that efficiently can be a bit of a burden for new players.
Fighter - S tier. As dumb and reliable as the Barbarians. I'd actually say that the Champion isn't half as bad as some people make it out to be. It passively makes you stronger, and you don't need to manage your maneuver dice. It's also better, if you're going for a throwing build, which doesn't benefit from almost any of the combat maneuvers.
Monk - S tier. Monks are just incredibly strong in this game, and there are tons of gear for them, which nobody else would contest.
Paladin - C tier. Paladins are strong - they can deal incredible amounts of damage in a single turn. But... managing your Oath can be extremely difficult for new players, unless they want to be Oathbreakers. I suppose that a Vengeance Paladin can be fairly easy to keep, UNLESS players try to unlock some achievements, which would force them to make decisions, that would break their Oath (such as saving Sazza). They also have fairly few spell slots, so managing them is also fairly difficult.
Ranger - C tier. Rangers have some really strong multiclassing paths, but pure ones aren't all that impressive.
Rogue - F tier. They are fairly straight forward to play, but definitely not self-sufficient of reliable. They are a great class to multiclass into, but pure Rogues are rather weak and unimpressive.
Sorcerer - A tier. They are strong and reliable (unless they are Wild Magic subclass), but managing their spell slots and metamagic can be a bit cumbersome for new players.
Warlock - B tier. Their Eldrich Blast build would be S tier, but can't rely that a new player would know about it. And managing only 2-3 spell slots per combat is fairly weak, especially against bosses with high health (F tier). So the average between S and F would be B.
Wizard - S tier. They can unlock all of the spells, so they are extremely diverse and thus reliable and self-sufficient. While not the most straight-forward to play, they don't have the same problem as Sorcerers, where on top of spell slots, they would also need to manage metamagic points, so I'm putting them one tier above. Although proper wizard builds to require some advanced game knowledge...
Putting Wizard S tier and then saying it requires advanced game knowledge kinda goes against the idea of being a good first class. Draconic Sorcerer will deal more damage and have much better survivability, and the storm sorcerer can fly away to stay alive. Charisma is much better for a first time player than intelligence too
Bard in F tier just makes no sense to me. Sword bard gets 2 attacks and they can flourish and hit 4 people per turn, so offensively they’re great. They are charisma based as well being a great face of the party! They mostly get crowd control spells but vicious mockery is a solid way to give disadvantage on attack rolls keeping everyone safe. The extra short rest is also quite nice
@@JasonDunna I suppose I can bring Wizards down to A tier. I mostly put them in S, because of their ability to learn all the spells. Will they need all of them? Most definitely not. But having them at their disposal at all times IS convenient.
They can even learn some advanced spells (from the tower), that no other class has access to. Although I'd give new players about 25% chance to find all of them on their first playthrough.
As for the Bard... their extra attack comes at level 6, unlike other classes who get it at level 5. AND their fighting style is restricted to one-handed weapons.
Meanwhile, the strongest weapons in the game are great weapons, or throwable weapons (that come back to you).
There certainly are some builds you can do with one-handed weapons, but they aren't nearly as straight forward.
Not to mention that barbarians and fighters (who are the other ones who rely on weapons) have 3 attacks after level 5 (frenzy barbarian) or 11 (fighter).
@@Khantia Archer swords bard sort of gets extra attack at level 3 already with the flourishes, though it's a bit limited. Then at level 5 you recharge it on short rest and can use it a lot more freely, and at 6 you can do 4 attacks per turn. As for the early levels you can dual wield hand crossbows and have cloud of daggers at level 3 which has nice damage, and you can even outright skip a lot of combat by talking your way out of it
Im main character is lore bard i might have to experiment with sword bard
Sword bard is sooo much better. Slashing flourish lets you attack with your bow 4x and you get magical secrets at level 10 still
Swap cleric and barb. New players won't understand why sacred flame sucks and uninstall the game from the frustration of missing every attack. Barb doesn't need knowledge to have fun.
Sacred flame having a dex save when the starting area has a ton of enemies with high dexterity sucks hahaha. It’s almost better just to do melee attacks
Yeah also shadowheart kinda sucks without respec, terrible stat spread and the worst domain, and her fire bolt uses int so it always misses too. Many new players will think cleric is a weak class because of that
Bard best newb class by far. Jack of all trades, master of all.
@@jimmystrudel without a doubt!! Absolutely pissening class
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Ranger Beastmaster is very noob friendly
Yeah having a pet is nice, but I find the ranger is a bit more complex to be good at
Sorcerer is the best class in the game. Double cast Haste. Double cast fireball. Come on.
That’s what I was saying
You put warlock as kinda harder than it can really be because of pact of the blade but you don't have to use it and you can just eldrich blast all the time for brainless tactics
Yeah if you just want to primarily use the cantrip which is yeah brainless but other classes can out damage it easier
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