The INFAMOUS BMW Lifter Tick / Ticking Noise (E90, E92, E82, E85, E86)
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2017
- In this video I talk about what the BMW lifter tick is, why BMW’s make a ticking noise, and potentially how to fix the ticking noise on your BMW.
The article: www.quirkyuncle.com/2013/04/12...
This can occur on an E90, E92, E82, E85, E86. Cars with the N52 engine, like the 328i, 128i, Z4
NOTE: I don’t claim to be an expert at this topic at all, just sharing info I have found and experienced with my own car.
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Liqui moly 8345 hydrostößel additive or Wynn's valve lifter treatment worked for my e36 M43.
The engine had the same noise , especially when it was hot.
Thanks for the video and in-depth discussion. My car has hydraulic lifters and hydraulic controlled VVC mechanisms, which uses the engine oil. The recommended oil is a semi-synthetic 10w-40, but I thought I could use a 5w-40 full synth because I live in a cold place and I just thought full synth is always better. Turns out I got more tappet noise and I'm considering going back to the non-glamorous Castrol Magnatec 10w40 part synth.
Hydraulic lifters don't adjust. They are hydraulic. They pump up. If they are ticking good chance the oil wasn't changed enough or the wrong oil has been used in it cashing a build up of sludge/ contaminants. Run some Castrol GTX through it, or something similar that isn't to aggressive but aggressive enough to clean the system out gradually. Once the contaminants are out. The lifters will be able to pump up correctly, and the ticking will go awaym
i got a 2006 330i i have slight lifter tick like it flows with the engine sound what should i do tk get rid of it im tryna have this car for a while
@@KingOfYouAllGamerBoy Ensure proper oil level and add oil if needed. Drive until engine oil reaches operating temperature. Then, using manual mode, maintain RPMs around 4K for 3-5 minutes. Hydraulic lifter tick will be gone as oil pressure will have ensured proper lubrication of hydraulic lifters. The sound won’t damage your engine, it’s just annoying. 🙂
Thanks, I recently bought my first BMW (2015 X4,) and I noticed this constant ticking sound when I started it up and thought maybe it was something serious that I should bring in. This was helpful.
An oil change alleviated my ticking. Driving a 2004 z4 3.0i with an m54 engine. I'm using synthetic 5w-30 and I change the oil about 7500 miles. Probably still need adjustments, but at least I won't have the damn ticking anymore. Check the oil levels and using the right oil.
Bought an E36 328i M52 with this once, it did a lot of short trips. Solution is to warm up the engine then rev it at 3000 rpm for 3 minutes in neutral. Let it idle for a minute and if it's not cured try again. It's down to the hydraulic tappets needing bled. More of an issue on N5x engine series than the older ones.
My m52b28 just started doing this today after sitting on stands for 6 months 🙃 gonna try this after beating the shit out of it
@@shrxmprl2250 did it work
@Cool experiments actually yeah, it went away after about 2 tries. Hasnt been back, and it runs fine. Fuel trims are spot on.
I had the sale problem and BMW told me it is solenoid valves leaking oil but usually when the car is warm ticks noise is quite.
Thanks! I just noticed this today and it's -5 degrees out.
Very informative even in 2021, thanks for sharing!!
I had this same noise in my E90 and the people in the workshop told me that this is caused because I didn't use the correct oil and the problem was that I bought oil in a gas station and I used that in my car and after a couple of months this issue appeared but know looks like everything is good. They changed the oil and the filter and the noise disappeared.
Thanks for this. I was a bit worried because my 06' 325i started "Lifter Tick" today. I drive it 1 mile a day at 35mph, so it looks like I need to go joy riding a bit...lol
Thank you for this video. Now i stopped my panic
This happens on my E61 530i, I noticed this when the car is cold and also when the oil is due to be changed as part of the service. After the oil is changed and you start the car from cold I no longer hear the tick tick noise. Perhaps this is the same for other BMW owners with the N52 engine.
I GOT A QUESTION, I TOOK MY 328I BMW 2008 TO GET A OIL CHANGE BUT THE MECHANIC FORGOT TO PUT THE ORING ON SO I RODE TWO DAYS WITH OIL SHOOTING OUT THE FILTER, AND NOW MY CAR HAS THAT TICK NOISE, DO YOU THINK THAT CAME FROM THE MESSED UP OIL CHANGE OR WHAT?
I’ve Lexus ls 450 and I got the same problem presented in the lifters.
Another flamingosis fan 👌🏻
Mine sounds like that but it’s not as bad ? Would this be the problem ?
The lifter don't ADJUST
their hydraulic
Had the same noise on 02 330Ci with 25k miles...lots of folk said adding Marvels Mystery
Oil would help and it certainly did!...its now back to its 'musical' best...give it a try ;)
Interesting! I'll look into it!
Marvel was always a known cure for this noise for years ive heard about marvel ..what is happening is the lifters go flat usually when they sit for a long period of time revving the engine brings up oil preasure inturn pumping up the lifter my guess is the marvel is thinner than the oil in the car making it easier for oil to flow through the lifters reasurising them back up and loosening any gunk that may be stopping oil from preasurising the lifters ... I also like to run some seafoam in engines that are all gunked up on the top end and running Castrol motor oil as it cleans out all that gunk makes the engine look new again .
BMW lifter all hidraulic... After sometimes the check valve inside the lifter will clogged or If you rarely drive it will fills with air buble and make it stick with hidraulic piston inside the lifter and creating thicking noise.
BMW garage told me that they just need to be driven at at least 2500 revs constantly for 5 minutes every other day then you won’t get the problem. It’s just down to short journeys where car doesn’t reach proper temperature🤓👍
hardly a "solution"
You guys have temp gauge?? e90 owner
My car has this same sound, how do I fix it?
Do you recommend a 5w40 or not
How about Mitsubishi Lancer Ex 2010? It ticks for few minutes Every time when my engine cools down. Is there any solution or its just a normal?
james fraser that is normal
Thanks a lot appreciate the info !!
Just see your over clip on this matter I driver my car on average once or twice every two weeks and it is short distance and I get this ticking noise
martin coupe Makes sense, if you drive it everyday a decent distance you probably won’t have the ticking problem anymore
My Z4 has the same problem and I've doscovered the noise starts when oil is low or when I drive the car to high revolutions...good video ✌
Thanks!
Interesting, thanks for the input!
Yeah these cars are appreciating!
I commute in sport mode on my short drives and it holds the revs higher and it no longer ticks ever
Hi! Have you noticed a huge difference in gas consumption?
e46 does this, just changed oil+filter using oem filter and the bmw approved castrol oil for the engine and still have the tick. its only when the engine is cold and it goes up with revs. when the engine is warm it dissapears but comes back after a cold start. any ideas? i feel like every time iwatch a new video about this they say something new
If it only happens on cold starts and gets worse in winter and always goes away or greatly reduces when the car is warmed up, that means you’ve got poor cold flow of the oil, switch to 0w30 instead of 5w30 and throw on a high flowing filter that still does an above average job at filtering like puralator boss, or Napa filter which actually flows better and should be cheaper the downside is it doesn’t filter as good as purulator boss the purulator is the best middle ground I’ve seen between good flow and good filtration, also high rev your engine once a day (don’t do it until it’s warmed up and been running 20mins or so
@@WalmartShooter thanks for the tip but turned out it was just a bad AC Pulley, it ticked like this and went away when warm assume some rubber or plastic expanded and it removed the noise. i run 5w40 no issues.
If the ticking is only when the engine is cold and under load - then it is a piston slap, most likely.
I have 07 530i just did the rev to 3000 rpm for 3 minutes and it worked the second time
What about the 130i e87 2006 ? It is 1 N52 too
Yeah then it may have this problem too, but if your car doesn't then you're lucky!
I once fixed an M52 E36 328i by revving to 3k rpm for a few minutes.
American videos drive me insane...talk talk talk talk talk 😂😂
I'm american and it drives me crazy too😂😂😂😂🥴
You're not alone😒
Amen
Thanks Hope it fixes mine ride perfect it’s just the noise
E34 535i ? .. I have the same problem
I have the same sound in bmw e46 but sometimes even wen is worm I making the sound
thats exactly what my bmw noise sounds like
The cause is lifters not getting enough oil, your car either burns oil and its low, which is another problem. r the "squirters" are gunked either from using non factory recommended oil, having the car sit for over winter or a year and not changing oil after.
Add seafoam to your crank case and gas tank a hundred miles before next oil change.
If youve worn enough metal on between your camshaft and lifters, itll never go away.
I had this problem in my 07 E92 328i with the N52 engine. I used to put 6.5 quarts of oil in the car when changing the oil and the ticking was prevalent. I increased the oil to a full 7 quarts of oem BMW synthetic and the ticking stopped immediately and never came back. I also use sport mode in my auto transmission which gives better performance for city driving and over 55 mph I shift to normal drive for better gas mileage. This keeps the revs higher and shifts later and thereby helps with the overall workout of your engine. My mechanics are BMW racing team and they told me the car loves to be driven hard and taken to red line through the gears to keep the overall performance at its peak. If your car has really high mileage, I wouldn't recommend taking to red line often if at all. Just treat your car like a pony and not a race horse to keep the components performing at their peak.
Hi, what kind of oil did you use?
I recently replaced the oil with Castrol Edge, 0W40 however lifter noise is still there... There are lots of comments saying use 0W, 5W 10W etc for a BMW N52?
Am not sure you said LIFTER TICK enough !!!!!!
Dit it rattle more when u reved it ? Thankyou
Probably your vaccum to the exhaust.
Yeah it does, it’s not a rattle it’s a tick, and yes it goes faster with the speed of the engine
THANK YOU so much
Its actually a good sound. It means the inside of ur engine is clean. All new cars make the same exact sound
Lmao sure
I use 5-30 I get from bmw for my e90 330i iv never had this issues key rule is use bmw spec oil.
5.30? What years urs mines 2006 and says only use 5w.40
The car sounds good though!
I got lifter tick when my car gets warm. I don't get any when cold, but I notice it it get lifter tick after I drive it for few miles.
Usually I don't rev it much and I drive it rarely (like few times per month).
Andonis Ratsos also get it after it’s warm, but I reckon my engine
Very interesting to see my engine not half covered,on my 128i a lot of the engine is covered by the cowl
If i drive in a high gear with low rpm i hear this sound
I have an e46 and it does this
Just do the lifter adjustment procedure specified by the manufacturer. In your car: keep rpm @3k for 5 min. Rinse, lather, and repeat.
tbmw said not to do that anymore, its a band aid fix and can cause damage
www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320299
I hear the same problem in my engine. I got a 2012 z4 28i. Took it to the dealership and another mechanic and both said to just replace the engine.
Replace engine when engine is blown not staring and running. Useless mechanics
@@aimized1460 right , smh
The only reason why I can think of them saying to replace the whole engine is because they would make more money of you. I don’t know your current mileage on that car but if it’s passed 250,000 and your hearing this noise unfortunately the only thing would be to reshave your piston ports and get bigger lifters. basically a engine rebuild. In my opinion its not worth it, just ride that car out till the end. use that sea foam before your oil change it could clear up some of that gunk, best of luck bro !
i changed my oil and let it sit for 2 months.. now i got this tick...
I use 5w-40 Ardeca Racing oil, tick is gone
Add 10w regular oil solved the lifters noise on my 328i 2007. I think the reason is full synthetic is too thin to seal lifters mechanism.
I’ll try that ...
I have the same car. & my lifter tick is very loud and even louder when I accelerate. But I will try adding this higher oil. Very helpful
correct oil and it wil not be any problem, use maximium 5w 40 if you in a hot place, in winter 0w 30 or40. and you wil not have the problem. mace sure the oil spec matches the engine, it s VERY important the oil qality in those engines, and change oil more often than what is reqierd in the service.. this happend in mine e90 330i, when i bogth it, and i just changed to correct oil and it never happend again, iven if i drive just smal/short trips,.... best regards bmw mecanic.
your absolutely right. the manual call for 5-30/5-40 and states that it is acceptable to use either in all condition. My 3 BMWs do not tick because I use 0-40 Synteck. You can use 0W-40 in the summer because the temp of the oil will be greater than the need for a 0W but will give you the whole range. Like an expert at Amsoil once said "if its summer out there, theres no difference between 0-30 and 5-30 because its summer and both oils are 30. In the winter the 0W is your engines best friend. Also change the oil every 5k miles or 7k in Kilometers to keep the peanut butter sludge out of the vanos. I seen it on those 15k miles oil change/ 25k kilometers oils change....not good.
What are your thoughts on redline 5w30 for my 2009 335i?
It has 105,000 miles
Use Castrol Synteck 0-40 every 5k miles. It is available almost everywhere, better availability then Redline. Redline is no better just marketing hype. Also if you go to the BMW website (I live in Canada, so for me it's the BMW Canadian official website, US would be the same since it's the same car, but you should look it up or call the dealer and ask) Anyway BMW uses Castrol Synteck long life. The non long life regular full synthetic Castrol Syntek is perfect for 5k miles oil change intervals. BMW website list 5-30 as there Bronze oil change and 5-30 on there Silver oil change and 0w-40 for Gold oil change (and 10w-60 only for true M models) So the best grade you can get at the dealer is 0w-40 oil. That's why I use 0-40 and my X3 3.0si runs like a top and nice and quiet, same for the wife's X3 and my old 328i that I keep as a spare car. You have the full range regardless of ambient temperature. And the VI's (viscosity enhancers) in the oil will adapt to whatever temp the engine is under.
*+hekeuw u are delusional the 0w oil is for low compression like the turbo engines, the e90 needs 5w30 for summer and 5w40 for winter, or 5w40 for all seasons*
So, I just need to warm up my car? why didn't I think of that? Because I have a bigger problem? There's 6 minutes I will never get back.
If you have a lingering tick. Just make sure you're putting in good quality oil like castrol edge or something.
Where's the solution?
Thanks for the video, but you’re a bit wrong. I have daily driven a 09 E89 Z4 sdrive30i for 2 and a half years now. Mine has essentially the exact engine as your Z4 30si, I beat on my car everyday, keep my rpms high and the ticking noise still hasn’t gone away regardless of a cold, or a warm start. I’ve packed over 40k miles on it since I’ve purchased it also. Thankfully I haven’t had any issue at all with my car but to say that the noise is coming from not driving it as much or because you don’t have your rpms high is completely wrong since I do that daily and the noise is still present. It’s not an annoying noise as you can only hear it when you basically pop the hood. But just wanted to inform you about that. I’m not an expert on this at all, just wanted to share my experience for those who are seeking more info about this.
Bimmer Boy use BMW/Euro synthetic oil. Not all synthetic oil is the same. It fixed my 530i up right away.
I appreciate you sharing your experience, but you are claiming I am wrong based on your experience. However, my experience is just the opposite of yours, when I drive the car more often, or drive it harder, the lifter tick goes away almost instantly. I only ever notice it after the car sits for a while. I have owned this car for about 2 years as well, and thats my personal experience, which is not wrong but it is what it is. Seems like a case-by-case scenario.
Lifter tick is the result, but the cause can vary. Many BMWs have some lifter tick when cold and it will almost disappear when the engine gets warm and is driven a bit. Lifter tick that does not go away even after the engine is warm and driven may be a sign of (for whatever reason) not enough oil getting to the lifters. This can be sludge in the oil clogging up the lifters or worse. As stated in this thread, regularly maintained oil changes with BMW spec oil (LL-1), not just oil that says "recommended" is a must for these cars. It's probably safe to say that many BMW drivers do not use the proper oil and do not keep up regular oil changes. I say that because I know quite a few BMW drivers and for many of them the Bimmer is more of a toy/status symbol than a complex machine that need TLC in order to run optimally.
Use liqui molly hydraulic lifter additive
I am about to use it.
How was your experience?
Lifter tick does your lifter tick know it lifter ticks the lifter tick.
Lifter tick
You need to do a motor flush as well it will get out sludge from the motor check out my boy NathanDiy Channel he performed it on a E90 for a customer
Did u need to do an immediate oil change after the bg?
No music please
This video brings attention to a common issue with BMW's (and a lot of other cars too) but it doesn't really give all that much useful information about it, other than anecdotes? Lifter tick is, in fact caused by the lifters being "out of adjustment" as you put it, but the important thing is WHY.
In my experience (I'm a BMW/Mercedes technician) the quality of the engine oil, type, etc is a big contributor. How often it's changed is another. I have had lifters fail completely after ticking for years and what I usually find is that the tiny oil passages leading into/out of them are completely plugged with sludge/dirt/carbon. It's pretty nasty stuff.
Johnathan Waters are these the hydraulic lash adjusters? Ive replaced some on a dodge charger that had the same issue. Would you recommend just replacing them? I bought an 06 325i that sat for over a year so the ticking is ver pronounce. I rrplaced the valve cover gasket and it is very very dirty inside. Oil is so dried up in there that it's flaking off. Any advice?
It depends on how bad it is. I've been able to clean some of the noisy ones out by just flushing the engine over and over. There are a lot of ways you can do this. (Some people even say you can put a quart of ATF into the crankcase, which i personally don't do) but ultimately if they are totally impacted, they need to be replaced. "Sludge"
How can we be sure about oil quality and such? Mine goes to the dealer for changes but doesn't get driven in winter. Parked in garage with battery tender. I've been told by dealer needs new lifters but an independent mechanic (European motor specialists) have said not the case. Usually the tick does subside with the "standard" fix of maintaining >2000 rpm for 5 minutes?
*+Thomas Clark I don't know who gave u ur information, but ur engine ticks because of accumulation of burned oil left in it, when u heat it up it obviously stop ticking, try cleaning the top of the camshafts when u open the top of the engine, it should stop*
*+Donny L engine is dirty inside from overheated oil that needed to be changed after it was overheated, the engine needs to be cleaned*
I have a 335i that has lifter tick on a warm start then it goes away in 10-15 seconds and i dont hear it anymore.
bahumat sol Hmm interesting! I wasn't 100% sure if the 335i had a prominent lifter tick noise
The lifter could need to be bled out. If it continues afterward it could be a faulty cylinder head
Good vid thanks: I just warm engine up to normal temps, then hold revs at 3500 rpm for 3 minutes... Noise goes... Common problem with short distance/low rev driving.. but not disastrous.
How often do you have to do that
@@fromthedeserts2724 when it ticks... regular oil change helps and in summer I use fully synthetic 5W/40, winter 5W/30 Mobil oil always Genuine oil filter. Its an annoying trait for the N52, but irritating intermittent : NOT disastrous. When engine is hot/normal temps, then switch engine off, put ignition ON, then put into 'sport' mode and use car safely because it now uses higher revs which also helps to 'bleed' the hydraulic lifter's.!. This cures my ticking, but sometimes it comes back, I'm used to it now BUT its an awesome engine especially in sport mode. Hope this helps you.
Mine makes that noise and still does it after a 90mile trip.
Did u figure it out?
we all looking for solution not for your chat box you
Yup sound like my x3
Perfectly normal, don't worry
MrOnluka happend 2 me after carbon cleaning ? How can i get rid of it please help
Yes i agree you don't know about lifter noise. Do some homework and try again. Lifters in your car are hydraulic , there for if you have Lifters noise its most likely they are draining out of oil. So you would need new lifters maybe some sort of lifter additive for the lifters until there replaced.
Tried many solutions without success. After months i think I solved the problem with an oil additive (lubegard bio/tech in my case, maybe others do the job as well). Results came after 1000km more or less. It has been 6 months since then and the ticking never came back.
Lubegard Hyper ZDDP Zinc additive
It adds a film on the hydraulic lifters that sticks to the surfaces a very long time, so upon cold start even with oil starvation, lifters would still move freely without sticking and the noise is significantly reduced.
Mines sounds excatly like this. But my ticking noise has never gone away.
Did it ever go?
@@bountea1263 no I haven't replaced it, it's just noisy it doesn't affect the engine
To reserve the lifters,
Park
Start the engine
Rev your car to 3000 rpm ( 2 min )
This will reset your hydraulic lifter tick.
🤫
StraightHugo do u mean holding the gas @ 3k for 2 min or tapping the gas for 2 min
@@winstonsheppard5592 yes. I did it on my n53b e92.
Bro wasted my life watching this
I have a 2006 e60 with the N52 engine. Use Castrol full syntethic 0w-40 european formula. change every 5000 miles with the MANN oil filter. I never had this issue with this combo
N52 revised in 2008 not much of a problem with the newer years i read
Lifter tick can be solved by adding thicker oil. Guaranteed whoever has lifter tick has well over 100k miles. I have a 2004 525i E60. Lifter tick was gone after adding 10w30 from 5w30. Oil pressure is needed so thicker oil will do the job
I have a 07 530i and the lifter ticket became quite prominent at 55k miles...current odo reads 57512. Unfortunately, left the car parked for months at a time thinking I was keeping the miles off of it was a wise idea....guess not. I will try the bleeding and a heavier oil if the noise does not lessen.
Check the VANOS
Andrew Castro vanos solenoids or what chech ?
Absolutely normal noise
my lifters tick no matter what temp
Ok. I want to buy a BMW X5 with a tick can somebody get ahold of me now !!
Michelle CC Klubben try and use 20w50 oil and see if noise is reduces
Run!
Ali Saleh bad idea
SirLoock good idea
Michelle CC Klubben yes i have one 5000$
Ceratec
lifter tick 80% wrong oil or it did not have any oil change at all
Will oil change fix it?
4:32 Don't want to take a blacklight to your car...
Christopher Reynolds Haha, I said "Revving it out longer" but for some reason the mic picked up something else
It's ticks because people use the wrong synthetic oil. Not all of it is the same. You need to get a BMW/Euro approved oil.
Incorrect doest matter what oil u use this engine is prone to this issue and he is correct in this video
It’s the lifters just remove them and fit new ones it’s easy
Just subbed to you. My channel is newer too. Only have 106 subs
Because of that ticking noise my car stop working today.
Problem?
@@elvis2975 if I'm remembering correctly, it turns out starter motor got stuffed. Had to replace starter motor.
I bet you have a rocker arm laying off to the side of you lifter
What the freak wrong with song
1:54 for all who wanna skip the irrelevant shit and get to the point
Good point! Thanks for adding the timecode
Get a handful of medium density fibreboard fine sawdust into the oil. Cheap solution if you want to sell your car without any need for expensive garage bills 👍
paul chambers LOL
Old school
@@tonykersh5888 and chipboard sawdust works just as well for silencing a crunchy gearbox 👌
Wow that sounds like shit. Im on the wrong page my bmw dont sound like that
I thought.! You gonna bring you tools under the hood .. this videos seems like don’t help at all .! But thanks for you info .!
This problem isn't something you can fix with tools, it also didn't claim to be a video that could be a solution
Beautiful car was thinking about 1 . Love that it has a 6 speed manual. If BMW has a recall and changes all the lifters and oil pick up problem ,, I might buy one used . Amazing a car company makes a car like that , then refuses to honor their reputation. Shame on you BMW. You Really have ruined your reputation in the last 30 years. Congratulations 🎊
This video is 6 min long. Is it worth the watch?
Fuck no. This guy just wasting people's time. 6 fucking minutes to tell you drive your car and warm it up. Just fucking stupid
Pretty sure you made this video just so you could say.....LIFTER TICK