Mass Female Migration Patterns in Europe
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2024
- About the Lecture: A presentation showing that Europe is currently having large waves of marriage migration.
David Lorentzon presents the data of four countries: Sweden, Germany, the United Kingdom and Italy showing female immigration trends. Then he'll present explanations as to why millions of women decide to immigrate to Europe and why so many European men find a wife abroad.
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Fascinating. Thank you. I fit some of your findings. Happily married 25 yrs. to woman from former USSR with 2 children. In general my children speak English though they/we all have an intermediate level of mother's language. They have no assimilation issues, their mother's culture being rather "additive". Her culture presents little "inter-gender" competition which is an enormous upside in family life--- children definitely come before work/career. The western culture wrongly labels this as "traditional"---but more accurately it could be described as highly effective for family formation & functionality. And you are unfortunately correct that my children, now entering young adulthood are facing challenges in what has to be called a dysfunctional mating/social situation. i wish all young people the best of luck.
I appreciate the things you said John and that this presentation helps bring clarity to your personal life, and to the shifts you see in society. I sincerely wish your children good luck with finding their partner. If you have any sons, then you may have to consider the possibility that they might have to find a partner abroad, particularly if they live in a rural community and are employed in a male dominated occupation.
Very interesting indeed...
sharia will fix this problem.
Fantastic, have you compiled/developed statistics surrounding the agriculture loss per country due to migration? Which is not intended to argue that food is scarce in these area's, more-so that nations may face periods of famine due to mismanaged agriculture if a local/state/nation becomes isolated. And, isolated is not intended to be a niche term; possibly an entity experiencing (as you've shown) migration is an example of relative isolation.
My perspective leads me to wonder about the effects of city dwelling, alot of the skills that I grew up learning from my family are seemingly taught in trade schools now (mechanical repair of engines, welding, framing/home-building, animal husbandry).
It frightens me to think of a weakened agriculture economy/workforce that is possibly the result of migrations like the one you presented. My concern is that a loss of national identity and culture will ultimately result in a population experiencing future hardships that may be mitigated.
Question: have you compiled/developed statistics surrounding the agriculture loss per country due to migration?
Answer: I have not done any research on the connection between agriculture loss and migration. However, I do know that with a larger foreign population, the food imports have increased a lot, as foreigners often prefer the cuisines from their home country, and this have influenced the consumer choices that natives have as well. For decades, diary farmers have been struggling in particular, as milk consumption have gone down and/or remained stagnant.
But it is difficult for me to draw a clear connection between agricultural mismanagement and migration in the past two generations. Europe in general produce so much food that it exports a lot of it to the Middle East and Africa. If Europe's production is lowered, then the first thing that disappears are the food exports to Africa and the Middle East. If anything, mismanagement of agriculture in Europe would lead to famines and chaos in Africa and the Middle East first. An example of this is Egypts large food import dependency from Ukraine and Russia.
to put it simply, in developing countries, with non functioning civil law, farmers are assholes, and if they see that a perfect land next to them, which they don't own is unused (because someone for example left abroad etc.), they will simply start using it to produce $
This is actually better for productivity - economics of scale
Even in countries as developed as Poland (which officially is no longer a developing country).
This is clearly an issue that cannot be sustained for a long period of time. How does something like this become fixed without extreme solutions?
Im confused, so for Sweden and Germany both you showed more male migration overall and excess males being higher than females.
So how is it the female migration is higher? Drawn out into the future how much of this male disparity will grow?
Also, why do you think mass migration is almost exclusively occurring in European dominant countries?
Appreciate the video.
Hello David. Thanks for the video. I think that it's more important to show the proportions based on ages.. Bcz in Italy for ex. The situation is drastically changing in the base of the ages. It makes a big difference. And it's change completely the picture. From what I see in my town: the half of Italians married (mostly happily) with women from eastern Europe (mostly Russians-Ukrainians-Moldovan and other country of ex "Soviet area of influence". PS. meanwhile italian+italin couple mostly separated :( )
Only Sweden publishes detailed data that includes age and gender from immigrant countries. All other countries I researched, such as UK, Germany, Italy and etc, they only included the gender, and I could not find any data on age.
@@Davidlorentzon thanks for the answer. I like your video. Very interesting research.
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Any info on who is profiting from them or helping them be trafficked in and what percentage of legal vs illegal
@@edmondopowell Question: Any info on who is profiting from them or helping them be trafficked in and what percentage of legal vs illegal?
Answer: No. Most research done on immigration takes very little consideration of gender. For example, when trying to find out the number of men and women immigrating into the USA from each country, I was unable to find it. Maybe they have it somewhere, but make it very difficult to access online. In Europe it was easier, but most countries had very biased selection, not giving you data on all countries. It is hard to determine how much of marriage migration is true love or if it's got manipulation by the man or woman. Regardless, marriage migration, and female immigration as a whole, is a very poorly researched area of immigration.
I have a question about the men with migration background not finding wives and not marrying/finding it very difficult to get married. You do not show any data about this. Do you have data that shows that these men do not find a female partner ever in their lives? While it might be true that these men will find it very difficult to find a female partner in Europe, back in their home country these men simultaneously become very eligible bachelors simply due to their higher earning potential and the European visa/citizenship. I would like to see a future analysis of these men and how many of them stay unmarried for the rest of their lives and how many of them themselves find a bride from either their own country or another one of the countries with a high female migration rate. This is, of course, considering heterosexual migration as this video also kind of does.
I had this in a university lecture, birth rates in rural communities through the centuries have always been higher with more men available per woman for women to choose from and feel more secure about other women not poaching their man, while cities always had higher earning, attracted more women, but also had a lower fertility rate per woman. So female migration is likely to have much more of an effect in shaping our future.
Why do some communities such as the Vietnamese in the Czech Republic not intermarry with the many Czech men and women available to them? I'd like to understand the mindset that leads to the creation of perpetuating minorities.
@@desinihilist5916 Question: Do you have data that shows that these men do not find a female partner ever in their lives?
Answer: All of this is such a recent development that there's no solid data yet. However, I am a hotel manager, and I work at a hotel whose main customers are Swedish families. Based on the observations of thousands of families in Sweden that have stayed at the hotel I work at, I have concluded that 1/6 of all Swedish men marry a foreign woman while only 1/20 of all Swedish women marry a foreign man. It's incredibly rare for a Swedish woman to have children with a non-European man, at around one-in-a-hundred, or less. These are my observations from personally providing service to thousands of Swedish families in the last decade.
You mention that the men from Northern Africa, the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent attract wives from their home country that moves in with them in Europe. This happens to some extent, but only in small numbers. It does not really solve the problem as most of these countries have a shortage of wives back home, due to gender imbalances and high levels of polygamy + cousin marriages. So most of foreign men in Europe still have problems finding a woman. This process is also getting more and more regulated and restricted as well by European governments. In Sweden for example "Relative immigration" is now more strict than ever before.
There are some weird correlations between countries. Matting migration strategies and bistribution of sexes. Females tend to move to cities, and males to rural and farms. Pipelines to countries for sexes looking for partners. Some of the trends that kind of go along with birth gap statistics. The political devide shows also in the sexes. Even though most of them would agree on a lot of topics. The small differences have been hyper polarized. The trend is shown in America and China and EU area. Probably the others also, but I have not checked.
Some of the matting strategy migration can be tracked in ways. Passport bros and sis's pipelines and EU to turkey for females and males should have similar. All these different flows from social imprinting into or out of countries. Schools and education pushing indoctrination of types. Some crazy trends and statistics out there. Birth gap, falling fertility rates, economic factors, ect..
Outstanding, especially given that you seem to be an amateur researcher!
The demographics of Russia is that for ages under 40 it has balance between men and women. But over 60 there is an exceptionally overweight of women. This is because men have such a short lifespan. The war will increase this overweight of women.
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Hello Kristopher Wilderness. I have info on my account if you click on it.
Yes, we are screwed. In my country most of the population growth comes from teenage pregnancy in the poorest state. As you can imagine my government is trying to educate and gaslight this province into not having so much kids while they are teenagers...
The job you have is better than corporate one
You're right. Working together with your own family every day at a rural hotel is something I'm grateful for.
There is one miscalculation. Immigrant muslim men (from countries which export mainly men) after they adapted to the foreign country, also tend to import their women from their former home countries. That means, the first wave of immigrants, consists only of men, but they very soon start to solve their problem in the same way like the autochthonous men, which is even easier for them, because they don't need to cross high cultural borders to solve their problem.
Yes, this does happen to some extent, but even after those secondary waves of relatives and bribes coming in, there's still a large gender gap remaining. There is still not enough women, not even close. There's migrant groups that have remained in Europe now for decades and the gender gap is still there.
This is what happens when you have countries with a lot of polygamy + cousin marriages. There's not that many single unmarried women to import from the home country, they are usually already in a marriage at home.
@@Davidlorentzon you forget, that in the Imagination of those, which remained at home, the adventurous guy, who made his "fortune" in the imagined paradise, has a higher status and therefore better chances to marry his female relatives. But the gender gap remains, because there are coming constantly new cohorts of young men. And it remains also, because some populations in this world tend, to abort female offsprings. But it is interesting, that according to this hypothese, a country like China should also export lots of men. But according to you, they are exporting women to the western world. Anyway, your observation of female emigration is interesting. In my hometown Vienna I observed that since the 70th. But I had the impression, it began in the better districts of Vienna. Which is not astonishing, because there are living more affluent men, which can maintain a family with one income. Anyway, compared with the masses of muslim and eastern European immigration, the number of mixed couples, east asian women with european men is negligeable in Vienna and also in rural districts.
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 Thank you for sharing your insights, I appreciate it. But I did not forget anything. Understand what cousin marriages are, they are arranged by the family. A very large portion of muslim women, sometimes as much as half or more in countries, marry a man that they did not choose, but their father/family did. The dynamics of dating as a result are very different. Many women are simply not allowed to leave their home country to marry a man in Europe.
Also, family chain migration is also getting much more strictly regulated. This will cause gender imbalances to increase. Some countries have already implemented much harder restrictions so that one male refugee can no longer get his whole family to migrate to Europe once his asylum has been approved.
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 With the case of China, yes, they have way more men than women, so why is the majority of immigrants from China women? The answer is that China is very strict in its emigration, it prevents people from leaving. Also it is not in war, like many muslim countries are. However, China does not stop people from emigrating if they married a foreigner. Marriage migration is possible because all countries around the world allow legally married couples to live together in the same country, if one of them is a citizen there. Almost no one marries Chinese men, but there are a lot of European men who think Chinese women are attractive. So through online dating, they can get a Chinese bride.
@@Davidlorentzon China prevents nobody from moving, except maybe very high qualified persons.
Hi, I am someone who was semi-radicalised by the online Right. I loved this video because it clearly explains the demographic implications of mass migration.
I find it hilarious that the rural conservative men are the ones who are more likely to change the genetic make up of their country in the long run, by marrying foreign women.
I was only disappointed that you only spoke a little about the minority groups that are more likely to succeed in multiplying in the long run.
Great video!
PS: Maybe you should add hashtags to increase the views of the video.
Hello!
I am glad you loved the presentation I made. You are correct, in Europe I have met very many right-wing men that talk about the importance of ethnic preservation, yet at the same time are married to an Asian, Latino or African woman.
I have met over a dozen of such men. What it usually comes down to is that they were lonely, and during a dark time of their lives they found a woman abroad. They then faced a dilemma between being lonely for the rest of their lives, or creating a family with a non-western woman. They concluded it was better to be married, have a wife and mixed-race kids than it was to be a lonely man forever.
However, you do sometimes see them have internal struggles with this, so they try not to think about it too much. Some of those same men also recommend other men not to do what they themselves did.
@Davidlorentzon Although I was making fun of them, I am still a right-winger too. So I can understand where they are coming from.
I guess it is all of our duties to keep ourselves informed and open-minded in order not to become extremists of any side.
Semi-radical implies not radical.
Racial preservation and preference isn't radical, its natural, it kept people alive for thousands of years.
@gtrdxz Yes, but I am Rwandan. Member of my family were unalived because a group of people tried to radically preserve their ethnicity by starting a Gen ocide.
So, I am wary of this sort of radical thinking because the methods can be terrible.
Although, I agree that it's important for one to maintain their culture/race. Over here, we are pretty nationalistic too. I would say politics are more right leaning.
Including Russia and Ukraine in these data messes up the results I think.
Not really, the numbers predates the war.
If anything the war had made the Russian migration more balanced due to draft dodging.
While Ukraine has seen a increased imbalance.
Is the surge in voters for (SD) caused by the anger of women to the influx of southeast Asian women?
Probably not
A Sweden Democrat stereotype is a middle aged rural man married to a woman from Thailand. So no, I have met over a dozen right-wing men myself who have an Asian wife.
Western women are not in competition with women from overseas because the SEA women are, by and large, marrying the surplus men pushed out of the dating market due to their lack of attractiveness/education/income and so on.
Most Western women do not find most Western men attractive. Quite probably, they never did. However in the past, economic opportunities for women were limited and so their only realistic choices were to either marry or be stuck in some low-paid, low status job. Some women could live independently back then because they had jobs like teachers or nurses, but the service industry apart from that, was non-existent.
However, modern women have very high levels of education, more so than many men. This allows them to access the highly-paid service-sector jobs and achieve total financial independence. The one thing that less attractive men had to offer, namely their ability to provide resources, is completely redundant. This has obviously caused a huge surplus of single men who are not dating locally, or who are seeking wives overseas.
@@cordfortina9073 Personally I think age is the most important factor. It is not poor, uneducated and arrogant men that move there, they are just old. And I think your logic is not very nice, are men gay because they can’t get a gf?
@@cordfortina9073 I had a good answer but it was deleted. As long as we don’t have free speech, debate is impossible.
Because there paying men from Britain up to 11000 pound to say there the babies dad they have it advertised on the Internet also there arranging gay marriages
Already during the Iraq war, I suggested to Swedish politicians that those who started the wars and cause the refugee flows to Europe should pay for themselves. This would have given Sweden revenues of around SEK 100 billion, equivalent to around 9 billion Euros. Which is needed for these people to learn Swedish and how Sweden works and so that they can get work and support themselves.
Immigration in Sweden has only caused a massive strain on social services and mass sexual abuse from migrants, look it up yourself. Diversity has failed.
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Up to this point you've presented what's presumably facts.
But now you're presenting opinion.
Masse not mass