The fact that anyone would loose their mind over decisions that only affect you two is absolutely absurd to me!!!! Like they know better than you do 😂.... Your life, your boat, your channel and you two are killing it!!! If I was wealthy I'd charter your boat and enjoy the labor of love you've been sharing with us... I'm just as happy watching the nauti couple on my phone....cheers!!!!
Having done a very brief stint in a customer facing role, I can say with confidence that many people suffer from a lack of reading and listening comprehension. And if you start talking numbers, then generally you can watch those peoples eyes start to glaze over and they stop listening almost entirely.
My take-away from this video is that you have sooooo many viewers that feel sooooo engaged, and involved in your build. That's nice. Cheers to that !!!
The "takeaway", is that you get what you pay for. They wanted custom options on the 75 model, typically only offered on the 82. Bering simply reclassified the ship to account for the extra costs. This was mainly done for accounting purposes...
I don’t understand how people could have got so confused in your last video. You explained it perfectly sensibly but clearly some people just weren’t listening!
I figured it out from a simple search on their most recent "affordable yacht", Carver...One year, it was marketed as a 46 "model", and subsequent models marketed as "506", models; Due to the extented swim pad. Of you chose the 506 model without the pad, it would still be classified as a 506 model if extra interior/engine room upgrades were ordered...
The first video was clear. Anyone who had questions amount it can't have been paying attention. It was very clearly explained that length and overall sized/tonnage was more comparable to a longer vessel. Super simple. Thanks however for the clarification.
As owner of an insurance company and agent for yachts for 25 years (and yachtsman for most of my life) I can confirm that your information is spot on. At underwriting, during underwriting we look pretty much at how much damage you can cause e.g. an 18 year old with 500 hp and a license is a huge question mark, but a 100 ft yacht with a 60 year old captain with 40 years of experience? We care less for his official license, Although we do prefer he has one, then we look at what the regulation under that flag says. I agree that the numbers may cause confusion, giving models a name would be good idea. with square foot, how do you deal with that? wet area? Try a catamaran...wet area so much smaller than used space. Hence in general marinas use the square meters used for their pricing and so do most cleaners. Ideally there are no rules and additional regulation for something that people may decide for them selves. Who cares what the number is? BTW in the UK for example they work with the wet area, a far overhanging bow, does not add to length, nor do bolt on or none-fixed constructions. Hence a 88 ft (26.8 meters) can qualify to be under 24 meter... What a lot of people do not realize that the boat flag pretty much determines which rules to follow. These are all great subjects for videos.
Thanks for doing this. I trusted you both know what you are doing and do your homework, esp. on major decisions. I am really looking forward to the sea trials of this yacht!
@@sirglogglubardons150 INACCURATE!! 1) Rico and Victoria have multiple streams of income. 2) Whether individuals are paying for services or products, offering gratuity to demonstrate their appreciation for the excellent content that Rico and Victoria provide, donating funds, in addition to any funds that Rico and Victoria are collecting from earned and well-deserved commission for views, clicks, shares, etc., ALL funds are rightfully theirs to spend, to waste, or to not spend and to handle however they so desire to utilize it. 3) Rico and Victoria have not demanded or extorted anyone to pay anything; hence they do not owe anyone any explanations. 4) Basic common sense dictates that any entity, business, or person that provides a service, product, or entertainment and collects monetary or other compensation is responsible for their own decisions. Therefore, their customers, patrons, or donors Do Not have the right to dictate or to question their purchases and decisions, unless they are shareholders, partners, etc. 5) If anyone does not appreciate the delightfully, wonderful content that Rico and Victoria provide, and such one does not wish to support, that person has the option to not view the content. And this channel is probably better off without them. 😊 * Case Closed!
Of all the yachting channels I’ve come across, you two have the absolute best! I’m going to really miss your affordable live aboard yachting series. You’ve shown quite a few yachts in that series that are incredibly affordable, even some that are over 100’ in length. I just need to convince myself to sell my home and buy one of these amazing yachts!
I can only say that I am very happy for you and the beautiful boat you are about to acquire. Enjoy the fruit of your effort and let the envious people close their mouths.
If you could ask Bering to do an animated illustration on how boats and ships are officially measured. Like a side view of a ship with measurement lines explaining the officially recognized length.
It's easy! Let's say you have a 'X' model boat that is named the X75, well that is obviously 78 feet long. Then that 78 feet long 'X' model boat becomes the X82 so as not to cause confusion.
This brings back fond memories of working in a North Shore Georgian Bay (Great Lakes, Canadian side) marina as a dock hand my first summer and Harbor (dock) Master my second summer. What fun, asking approaching boats their length and draw to find best dockage space. And it was especially exciting to see American yachts pulling in from Mackinaw, Michigan etc as they were always the bests tippers, lol. This was in the mid 80s.
Hi, Buz Palmer here, retired Furuno South East Regional Manager. Also, rebuilt thirteen older cruisers through the years ending up with my pride and joy a 44’ Ocean Sport Fisher. My family loved living aboard the “High Hopes” In the summer time. Thru the years I have been aboard every thing that floats from Air Craft Carriers to 13’ Boston Whalers. One of the first of your videos I saw was of the Bering line. I fell in love with the Brand! I knew then that’s what you would pick out for your new boat. I am looking forward to your videos on your new 82’Bering!
Thank you for doing this video! It really helped understanding the difference between US and Europe regs, and how much insurance affects the boat size, you guys are the best!
Hello NautiGuys, your explanation on your vessels LOA is very well stated, and you broke it down in simple terms. You two make a great crew together, and I like your channel.
We used to measure ships in Deadweight Cargo Capacity, which for my last ship ( Nedlloyd Dejima ) was 48.148 ton , after this ship I left the merchandise navy for naval avation.
This is the very reason why I suggested you guys have a in depth online class lesson on various aspects of yacht operations including different types along with chart reading morning docking, flags laws maritime, length of stay. Excetera., Then go into purchase, tax advantage, Management, refits........ education will build your brand even among current owners.
The 24m is complex. It is "load line length", which is neither LOA nor w/l length. The rules say LLL is the greater of: (i) 96% of the total length on a waterline at 85% of the least moulded depth measured from the top of the keel, and (ii) the length from the foreside of the stem to the axis of the rudder stock on that waterline. For most monohull boats that means LLL is 96% of w/l length as (i) is greater than (ii). BUT the word "length" also carries its own definition, and helpfully it is: "the overall length from the foreside of the foremost fixed permanent structure to the aftside of the aftermost fixed permanent structure of the vessel". So you exclude swim platform, pulpits, davits, rubbing strakes, etc.
There are different guidelines in Germany. On inland waters, there is a length limit of 20 meters for a sports boat license. Depending on the water, boats under 15 hp can be driven without a license. There are no lengths or performance restrictions for sailing on the sea for purely private use, but you still need to have the sport boat license.
Congrats on all that is going on in your lives!! Love this channel. I'm just a dreamer rebuilding my first lake houseboat but will be retiring in a few years and would like to buy a boat that will be safe for the inside passage to Juneau. You will always get those that are think they are smarter than all on all of these channels! Again, congrats on the New boat and everything else going on in your lives! Keep up the great work.
14:22 In Germany you need a pleasure boat license for > 15HP (was 5HP or so until 2012), up to 20m length. Different licenses for inland waterways and coastal waters, although the tests are quite similar. Other license types if > 20m, commercial use etc.
I think that the 20m limit only applies to intercoastal waterways. In coastal waters there is no limitation but only if the boat is designated for free time activities you just need a Basic Licens of it is a private boat.
@@gamingundco8770 That is correct. Inland up to 20 meters and at sea unlimited as long as it is private. There is a regulation at sea (coast) up to 15 meters and up to 15 HP without a license.
It's amusing. The Wynn's just did a video talking about flag registration and insurance today that really opened my eyes. This video has provide even more context. A very informative day.
You guys are so cool!!! So patient and such good teachers!❤ I soooo want to get one of those, every time you drop another video! I am not a sailor by any means, but the window you open into that world is so inviting!
Victoria and Rico, You guys have done an Awesome Job through the series, always Fantastic Explanations for viewer's 👏🏽👏🏽 There hasn't been any problems with how you have explained different things, so a fact in Life. Cannot wait to see the latest episode from Bering 💜👏🏽👏🏽, from the Hawksberry River, Australia
Thank you for taking me along on your amazing adventure. So enjoying it and you haven't even left the dock yet ! Looking forward to the day you cast off lines.
As a boat builder and designer I completely understand this. I found this issue 15+ years ago with boats being imported from New Zealand into Australia. We adopted LOA as the model number to compete but also found the gross weight on the NZ boats was up to 30% less of what we were building. Gross weight is the only way to compare boats from builder to builder.
I’m just a novice but I do deal with regulations as a Heavy driver (Flyer). When you are in the large categories licenses may be by GT but when you are shorter lengths Rules and regulations and costs are many by length. Such as whether a boat has to be titled or can be Coast Guard titled, what style and placement of navigation lights, beam and length for trailoring, whether it will fit in a slip, cost of the slip rental or transient fees and so on.
Leave it to the boat marketing departments to create FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) about LOA, LWL, GT, DWT, etc. Thank you for clearing up all the confusion, you guys rock! I cant wait to see your Bering 82 floating in the water. Personally, I believe that everyone who drives a boat with an engine should have the appropriate education, training and licensing to be at the helm.
Thanks, this subject is new to me since I have only been using my yacht for inland waterways. I have been to several marinas, but no problem with slips.
This question is for Rico. If I am correct, you have twin QSM11 Cummins diesel engines in your new boat. Seems extremely under powered for a Bearing 82. QSM11 is a very dependable engine. Have worked on Cummins diesel engines for over 30yrs. Why not go with QSK23. It's still an inline 6 cylinder engine, just puts out way more power. At any rate, very good choice in engines.
Your insurance comments are totally on point. I have had boats for 40 years. The insurance companies will always ask about ownership history and any training you might have. The one question they always have is: Have you had any insurance claims in the past 7 years? Trust me, this is the big one.
In South Africa, where I live, a competency license is acquired for the use of any for any motor driven vesel of 15hp or more and being longer than 3.0 meters, what ever least of is applicable. Different levels of competency is required as these vessels grow in size and HP of the motors. Motor HP is less important, as competency is determined more by the vessel's water way utilization and size. For instance, water-ways are categorized as inland dams, lakes and rivers, on the one end, and sea going on the other. Boats are either motorised or under sail and/or rowing, and those have different size categories for captaincy and insurance purposes. Boat sizes are ruffly, as I might get the precise lengths wrong, 3m to 9m, 9-20m, and >20, and then tonnage as the LOA goes above 28m On the smaller vessels, distinction is also made between the number of motors. For example, in South African sea waters, boats with a single engine, are not allowed to go further than 1 nautical-mile from land without another means of propulsion, like either sails or another motor. Exception is made for bigger vessels above 20m, that may have one engine but then it must have another means of securing the vessel or making it save for itself or other boaters, if the main means of propulsion is lost. Competency, in all cases, are measured and determined by the authorities through predetermined curriculum and the completion of an exam. These are policed, just like licencing for the use of motor vehicles on public roads, mostly by police, but also by nature conservation authorities, for inland waters, and the "coast-guard", for sea fearing vessels. I currently hold a competency certificate for both inland, single and multi-motor driven vessels, as well as a certificate for multi-motor vessels to 9 meters LOA, for use out to 15 nautical-miles at sea. One can supplement these by attaining a licence addendum for use at night. To legally go beyond 15 nautical miles, it is required to have a vessel bigger than 9 meters in length, with more than one means of propulsion, and a night rating. This will be what is required to basically operate a motorised vessel on the open ocean.
As far as insurance is concerned, there is no obligation in Germany, but it is advisable to take out insurance. You can complete this without having to prove how much experience you have with boats/ships. Rather, the value of the boat/ship is of interest. However, if you want to travel abroad, insurance is mandatory. You can then take out this through foreign insurance if you otherwise do not have insurance for the boat/ship.
I saw your tour of the Bering 77. Maybe that's what you should have stayed with! But, anyway any of us Subscribers and/or viewers look at it! It's no skin off our ass! LOL, LOL, LOL! I just enjoy watching your COMPREHENSIVE tours! I've been on UA-cam the day they went live online and have been watching boat tours since I could find them. I can say UNEQUIVOCALLY YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST! And I know why! You actually put in the work! You go through the boat before you video the tour. That's why you're so smooth and comprehensive. I registered a UA-cam Channel that when Google bought UA-cam something go screwed up and I lost access. New rules processes and procedures may allow me access again.
I like Rico's idea of using square footage rather than length or beam width or even gross tonnage, because most people (in the U.S. anyway) are already very familiar with that sort of measuring stick when it comes to real estate, so it would be a pretty simple way to convey the true size of a boat that could be readily understood by all. Just a thought.
We are happy for you guys no matter what the numbers were/are. I am one of these guys that will not allow any company to tell me what I have to do before they take my monies banks/ins co ect. Boat paid for own where its parked. Only thing is spouse will not go for dumping the two homes we own for that 80 ft sail boat I need. Great video.
I am shocked that you had negative feedback about the rebrand conversation as you and Alexei were truly clear that the change was predicated upon Volume, not length. Having said that, your explanation today was excellent, and as always beautifully stated.
I love this channel because I love these big boats ( yachts). But my favorite is the explorer models in all sizes. The bering brand is second to none it seems. What is odd about me liking these boats, is the fact that I am terrified of the ocean and I get physically ill when I am near a ship or crossing high bridges. And I am the shop Foreman for a bridge building company. FYI, I rarely leave the shop and go to any job site. Love the videos.
German Boat Licences are a bit confusing. There are 2 different ones. With the „SBF Binnen“ (for Inner Coastel Waters, Rivers) I am limited to 20m boat length. Exception: Only 15m on the Rhine. With the „SBF See“ (for marine waters) itself, there is no length limit (For Pleasure boats, no paid crew). The 24m regulation is only important if I drive boats with the German boat license in other Countrys such as the Mediterranean.
I agree with 80% here are my 2cents: 1. The diver most definitely will have to WORK more, because within the same LOA the square foot area will be xx% more. 2. Loa is used in the pleasurcraft to calculate dockage, even some marinas actually measuring your boat as it enters. LWL is commercially and I personally think that's more a valuable way to judge, since overhangs actually hinder your abilities in rough seas
Rico, I Love, The square footage idea! It's a great starting point and so many more people can understand it. Besides, it kind of descripes the hole in the water the boat takes up. 👍🏻👍🏻
An interesting comparison would be the way BMW used to designate their different models. For example 535i used to mean 5 Series, 3.5 liter engine, Injected. Nowadays it's marketing for the most part but totally understandable for distinguishment of trim levels, options and capabilities.
Gross Tonnage is really one of the best compromises on measurement metrics vs model number. The biggest industry hurdle is likely going to be that using it as a model number you're going to be more easily able to compare vessels in regards to size/volume (which I think is why you see it in commercial and super yacht markets, because you're dealing with so much volume in general) I've also come to like the LWL (Length at Water Line) for getting more realistic idea of livable space, not structural LOA, because for most "under 60" LOA vessels LWL * Beam is much more accurate than LOA * Beam. At least in most of the cases I've seen so far when trying to figure out which models are likely to have the most livable space. Either way, thank you for the more detailed look into the insurance and captain license requirements!
I’ve always wondered why boat manufacturers start out calling a boat say 40’. Then after a couple years they change absolutely nothing pertaining to physical size then it becomes a 42’ and sometimes a few more years later the exact boat then is called a 44’. My boat is an older 39’ and the newer boats that are labeled 42’ have far less beam and interior volume than my older boat. I’m glad they call my 39’ foot because in my state the registration goes way up 40’ and larger. I was told if the boat has a bolt on swim platform which mine does they rate the length not including the platform. Boats with integrated swim platform that count it as part of the length.
A swim platform or duck board is like a tow bar on a car. A car's length is always measured bumper to bumper. As far as model names and numbers in the name not matching up to specifications of the vessel is not really relevant these days and are just a talking point. I think Mercedes-Benz made this adjustment years ago where their model numbers stopped representing the capacity of the engines eg. A 420 SE was a 4.2 litre and a 300 E was a 3.0 litre and so forth. I think the first to change this trend was the 560 SEC and SE/SEL. It was actually a 5.5 litre, but odd numbers were delegated to diesel vehicles, and another example is the AMG 63 motor which is actually a 6.2, but the marketing people felt 63 sounded better after the AMG name.
Aviation insurance is the same way -- The regs might say you can fly something, but the insurance requirements will always be more stringent and require more time.
Thanks for the up date..I had a few question but i figured you'll had enough to do an worry about on you own..Glad all is working out and Love You Show...
You made it clear enough in the original video for me to understand it was simply a model# change. A person looking to be a yacht would be crazy not to look into the specificatiions closely before their purchase.
Knowing from previous videos that your boat was longer than the '75' name made it easy to understand the branding change in my case. I wish boat builders named the boat true to the LOA but I can understand why they don't want to. As someone not in the boat world, it's interesting the 3 ft wiggle room the marina's give you. I wonder if that's the general rule builders follow?
Here we have two licensed captains who live and breathe this stuff. They're experienced in many aspects of the boating and chartering industry and are actively involved in various businesses. Globally. They've recently partnered with a respected builder and collectively have access to a century of know-how, experience and advise. The internet: you guys don't know what you're doing! Lol. People really do have a problem staying within their own wheelhouses. Pun intended. I'm gonna hazard a guess and say you've probably done your research and looked into options. Let's just call that a hunch. :) I have a tendency to tell those people to just shut up and sit down so must commend your patience. And if i was that hypothetical diver? Maybe take beam into consideration as well? Scope of work is a thing. All that aside - When do we get to see the progress on the big girl?
Ahhh shucks, I was hoping to get a good deal on your B75 hull since you guys got “tricked” into the upgraded B82 😉 (just in case - this is a joke, please don’t get caught up the semantics) Good job guys, continuing congrats on this exciting project, would love to crew your big prop boat someday!
I think they will be just fine $$ wise I don't think anything is a issue lol Just a regional confusion. Love the videos keep em coming Bering 82 typically ranges around $8 million to $10 million, depending on customization and specifications. After Purchase and Maintenance Costs PMCS is insane never thought of half of these Annual Maintenance: Maintenance costs, including engine servicing, hull cleaning, and general upkeep, can range from $150,000 to $300,000 per year. Insurance: Annual insurance costs are approximately $30,000 to $50,000. Docking and Storage: Costs vary by location but generally range from $30,000 to $60,000 annually. Running Costs Crew Salaries: Employing a small crew of 2-3 members will cost around $100,000 to $200,000 per year. Provisions and Supplies: These costs can range from $50,000 to $100,000 annually, depending on usage and destinations. Miscellaneous: Additional costs such as licensing, internet, and satellite communications can add another $10,000 to $20,000 per year. Fueling Prices The Bering 82 has a fuel capacity of 24,178 liters (6,387 gallons). The cost of marine diesel fuel varies, but as of mid-2024, the price is approximately $4 to $5 per gallon, making a full refuel cost between $25,548 and $31,935.
I appreciate the information that you are giving is truly helping me when the time comes to buy my yacht from the bearing company. I appreciate all the effort in all there information. Keep up the great work. You have truly inspire me about the super yacht industry. Thank you and god bless
Gee I figured with no video from Nautiguys yesterday, we weren’t getting one from this channel as well. I was happily shocked to see this pop up. Thank you for clearing this misunderstanding up. Great explanation!!Insurance is the biggest hindrance to boat ownership. Nicky and Jason talked about this on their video today. The flag state choice was driven by the insurance- and lack there of of insurers writing policies. Don’t muddy the waters with square footage. BTW- nice shirt RICO!
The fact that anyone would loose their mind over decisions that only affect you two is absolutely absurd to me!!!! Like they know better than you do 😂.... Your life, your boat, your channel and you two are killing it!!! If I was wealthy I'd charter your boat and enjoy the labor of love you've been sharing with us... I'm just as happy watching the nauti couple on my phone....cheers!!!!
Exactly! Thank you for sharing!! 🙏🏻💙⚓️
I agree!🙂
Lose their mind
parasocial relationships at work
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I though it was obvious same size boat, just a rebrand by the company, you even talked about it in that way
Thank youuuuu 🙏🏻💙⚓️
@@NautiGuys Glad i missed this whole hassle.
Having done a very brief stint in a customer facing role, I can say with confidence that many people suffer from a lack of reading and listening comprehension. And if you start talking numbers, then generally you can watch those peoples eyes start to glaze over and they stop listening almost entirely.
So many people didn‘t listen…
@@MarksWassersportFAQ Yup the channel seems to have some real dummies .
My take-away from this video is that you have sooooo many viewers that feel sooooo engaged, and involved in your build. That's nice. Cheers to that !!!
Awwww 🥂
Watch those ads clueless idiots, Rico and Victoria need to pay the bills! 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡
Name your Ship “ CRAZY REALITY”…youse guys are driving me nuts!!!
The "takeaway", is that you get what you pay for. They wanted custom options on the 75 model, typically only offered on the 82. Bering simply reclassified the ship to account for the extra costs. This was mainly done for accounting purposes...
I don’t understand how people could have got so confused in your last video. You explained it perfectly sensibly but clearly some people just weren’t listening!
I'm a rancher in Montana and I got it figured out.
Rico,Victoria your doing just fine .
Lol 🤪
😂 I'm a hay farmer in California,and I got it figured out as well...lol!
The casual yacht observer will be nothing but confused if they don't dig deeper for info.
You two have done a great job of explaining things. Thanks.
Thank youuuuu
I figured it out from a simple search on their most recent "affordable yacht", Carver...One year, it was marketed as a 46 "model", and subsequent models marketed as "506", models; Due to the extented swim pad. Of you chose the 506 model without the pad, it would still be classified as a 506 model if extra interior/engine room upgrades were ordered...
Rico, I understood what you were talking about the first time. I don't know why it's so hard for people to get a grip on it.
Happy to clear things up for everyone!
The first video was clear. Anyone who had questions amount it can't have been paying attention. It was very clearly explained that length and overall sized/tonnage was more comparable to a longer vessel. Super simple. Thanks however for the clarification.
Happy to clear things up!
As owner of an insurance company and agent for yachts for 25 years (and yachtsman for most of my life) I can confirm that your information is spot on. At underwriting, during underwriting we look pretty much at how much damage you can cause e.g. an 18 year old with 500 hp and a license is a huge question mark, but a 100 ft yacht with a 60 year old captain with 40 years of experience? We care less for his official license, Although we do prefer he has one, then we look at what the regulation under that flag says. I agree that the numbers may cause confusion, giving models a name would be good idea. with square foot, how do you deal with that? wet area?
Try a catamaran...wet area so much smaller than used space. Hence in general marinas use the square meters used for their pricing and so do most cleaners.
Ideally there are no rules and additional regulation for something that people may decide for them selves. Who cares what the number is? BTW in the UK for example they work with the wet area, a far overhanging bow, does not add to length, nor do bolt on or none-fixed constructions. Hence a 88 ft (26.8 meters) can qualify to be under 24 meter...
What a lot of people do not realize that the boat flag pretty much determines which rules to follow. These are all great subjects for videos.
Imagine getting mad at someone else’s purchase…
Love you guys
You two and Alexi made it pretty clear and made it easy to understand. People are idiots now days. Keep yo the great work.
Thanks for watching!
Not sure why the confusion... but thanks for recapping it again! Hopefully they understand it this time! 👍👍
We hope so too 🤪🤣🙏🏻
@@NautiGuys 👍👍
Don’t let the haters get you down. Great video with great info.
I Just love the fact you explain everything clearly in depth and make it simple to understand almost like an idiots guide.
Thanks for doing this. I trusted you both know what you are doing and do your homework, esp. on major decisions. I am really looking forward to the sea trials of this yacht!
Thanks for hanging with us today!!
Who cares. If you are good with it and understand the reasoning. You are fitting the bill. No one else. This boat is gonna be awesome.
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My sentiments exactly! 😀
Correction. The viewers are footing the bill.
@@sirglogglubardons150 INACCURATE!!
1) Rico and Victoria have multiple streams of income.
2) Whether individuals are paying for services or products, offering gratuity to demonstrate their appreciation for the excellent content that Rico and Victoria provide, donating funds, in addition to any funds that Rico and Victoria are collecting from earned and well-deserved commission for views, clicks, shares, etc., ALL funds are rightfully theirs to spend, to waste, or to not spend and to handle however they so desire to utilize it.
3) Rico and Victoria have not demanded or extorted anyone to pay anything; hence they do not owe anyone any explanations.
4) Basic common sense dictates that any entity, business, or person that provides a service, product, or entertainment and collects monetary or other compensation is responsible for their own decisions. Therefore, their customers, patrons, or donors Do Not have the right to dictate or to question their purchases and decisions, unless they are shareholders, partners, etc.
5) If anyone does not appreciate the delightfully, wonderful content that Rico and Victoria provide, and such one does not wish to support, that person has the option to not view the content. And this channel is probably better off without them. 😊
* Case Closed!
Rico, I agree with your idea for measurement! Have a blessed week both of you.
Same to you!!
I completely understood what you were saying in the first video. You made it very clear
Thank youuuu
I understood it completely and not even a boat person. I watch these videos because I'm interested in the subject and owning one in the near future.
Love Rico's shirt 😉
Hahahah thank you!!
Of all the yachting channels I’ve come across, you two have the absolute best! I’m going to really miss your affordable live aboard yachting series. You’ve shown quite a few yachts in that series that are incredibly affordable, even some that are over 100’ in length. I just need to convince myself to sell my home and buy one of these amazing yachts!
Love you guys. I live vicariously through you and your channel. Can't wait to see the finished boat!
I can only say that I am very happy for you and the beautiful boat you are about to acquire. Enjoy the fruit of your effort and let the envious people close their mouths.
If you could ask Bering to do an animated illustration on how boats and ships are officially measured. Like a side view of a ship with measurement lines explaining the officially recognized length.
Noted 🙏🏻💙⚓️
Used to be measured at the waterline
Just read Chapman’s piloting This is not rocket science and had been measured the same way for hundreds of years
It's easy! Let's say you have a 'X' model boat that is named the X75, well that is obviously 78 feet long. Then that 78 feet long 'X' model boat becomes the X82 so as not to cause confusion.
@@maddogmorgan1 Good one.
Thanks guys! I especially appreciate your comments regarding insuring a boat & licensing to operate a boat.
This brings back fond memories of working in a North Shore Georgian Bay (Great Lakes, Canadian side) marina as a dock hand my first summer and Harbor (dock) Master my second summer. What fun, asking approaching boats their length and draw to find best dockage space. And it was especially exciting to see American yachts pulling in from Mackinaw, Michigan etc as they were always the bests tippers, lol. This was in the mid 80s.
Hi, Buz Palmer here, retired Furuno South East Regional Manager. Also, rebuilt thirteen older cruisers through the years ending up with my pride and joy a 44’ Ocean Sport Fisher. My family loved living aboard the “High Hopes” In the summer time. Thru the years I have been aboard every thing that floats from Air Craft Carriers to 13’ Boston Whalers. One of the first of your videos I saw was of the Bering line. I fell in love with the Brand! I knew then that’s what you would pick out for your new boat. I am looking forward to your videos on your new 82’Bering!
Loved the explanation. Great work. Can't wait to see the new boat.
Thanks for watching!
@NautiGuys love watching y'all. As soon as the ole lady takes a dirt nap..I'm buying a live aboard. LOL
Don’t worry about the haters. You all are so fun to watch and can see your joy…. God bless and please don’t stop being your authentic selfs …
No matter what Bearing calls it, it’s a big freakin boat!
We 💙 Bering
It’s a big boat until someone pulls up beside them in a bigger one. Park it next to a legit 100m plus megayacht and it’s small.
Sleep soundly at night,.knowing it's someone elses bill that they have to pay...
Thank you for doing this video! It really helped understanding the difference between US and Europe regs, and how much insurance affects the boat size, you guys are the best!
Hello NautiGuys, your explanation on your vessels LOA is very well stated, and you broke it down in simple terms. You two make a great crew together, and I like your channel.
I find it hard to believe that people would threaten to un subscribe... wow..
My wife and I are ready for the first cruse!!!
You guys are awesome!
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We used to measure ships in Deadweight Cargo Capacity, which for my last ship ( Nedlloyd Dejima ) was 48.148 ton , after this ship I left the merchandise navy for naval avation.
This is the very reason why I suggested you guys have a in depth online class lesson on various aspects of yacht operations including different types along with chart reading morning docking, flags laws maritime, length of stay. Excetera., Then go into purchase, tax advantage, Management, refits........ education will build your brand even among current owners.
Noted!!
That was a good point about the size of the hull vs hull + swim platform.
The 24m is complex. It is "load line length", which is neither LOA nor w/l length.
The rules say LLL is the greater of: (i) 96% of the total length on a waterline at 85% of the least moulded depth measured from the top of the keel, and (ii) the length from the foreside of the stem to the axis of the rudder stock on that waterline. For most monohull boats that means LLL is 96% of w/l length as (i) is greater than (ii).
BUT the word "length" also carries its own definition, and helpfully it is: "the overall length from the foreside of the foremost fixed permanent structure to the aftside of the aftermost fixed permanent structure of the vessel". So you exclude swim platform, pulpits, davits, rubbing strakes, etc.
I was thinking about this and decided...I don't care. If your happy, I'm happy. Best to both of you.
I know next to nothing about boats,but this was very interesting,I learned a lot, thanks.
Best boat ever...i love bering more than all the other ships ...
There are different guidelines in Germany. On inland waters, there is a length limit of 20 meters for a sports boat license. Depending on the water, boats under 15 hp can be driven without a license. There are no lengths or performance restrictions for sailing on the sea for purely private use, but you still need to have the sport boat license.
Thank you for the explanations. I like the idea in the end of having a system per square foot. It seems to me that it would be so much simpler.
Congrats on all that is going on in your lives!! Love this channel. I'm just a dreamer rebuilding my first lake houseboat but will be retiring in a few years and would like to buy a boat that will be safe for the inside passage to Juneau. You will always get those that are think they are smarter than all on all of these channels! Again, congrats on the New boat and everything else going on in your lives! Keep up the great work.
14:22 In Germany you need a pleasure boat license for > 15HP (was 5HP or so until 2012), up to 20m length. Different licenses for inland waterways and coastal waters, although the tests are quite similar. Other license types if > 20m, commercial use etc.
Thanks for the insight!!
I think that the 20m limit only applies to intercoastal waterways. In coastal waters there is no limitation but only if the boat is designated for free time activities you just need a Basic Licens of it is a private boat.
@@gamingundco8770 That is correct. Inland up to 20 meters and at sea unlimited as long as it is private. There is a regulation at sea (coast) up to 15 meters and up to 15 HP without a license.
It's amusing. The Wynn's just did a video talking about flag registration and insurance today that really opened my eyes. This video has provide even more context. A very informative day.
So happy to hear 🙏👌🏼💙
You guys are so cool!!! So patient and such good teachers!❤
I soooo want to get one of those, every time you drop another video! I am not a sailor by any means, but the window you open into that world is so inviting!
Awww thank you so much for the kind words!
I agree with getting away from numbers as a name. These boats, especially Bering, deserve an epic name.
This was the greatest most informative video you guys ever posted for the Newbies !!!!!!!! This was a Masterclass of info!
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Glad it was helpful!
Victoria and Rico, You guys have done an Awesome Job through the series, always Fantastic Explanations for viewer's 👏🏽👏🏽 There hasn't been any problems with how you have explained different things, so a fact in Life. Cannot wait to see the latest episode from Bering 💜👏🏽👏🏽, from the Hawksberry River, Australia
Thank you for taking me along on your amazing adventure. So enjoying it and you haven't even left the dock yet ! Looking forward to the day you cast off lines.
Glad you enjoyed it
As a boat builder and designer I completely understand this. I found this issue 15+ years ago with boats being imported from New Zealand into Australia. We adopted LOA as the model number to compete but also found the gross weight on the NZ boats was up to 30% less of what we were building. Gross weight is the only way to compare boats from builder to builder.
I’m just a novice but I do deal with regulations as a Heavy driver (Flyer). When you are in the large categories licenses may be by GT but when you are shorter lengths Rules and regulations and costs are many by length. Such as whether a boat has to be titled or can be Coast Guard titled, what style and placement of navigation lights, beam and length for trailoring, whether it will fit in a slip, cost of the slip rental or transient fees and so on.
The show must make you a lot of money for the price of the boat and expenses
Absolutely correct. Thanks fdor the Sunday update.
I absolutely enjoy these kind of sit-down conversations.
So happy to hear 🙏
Very informative, good information on anything is precious these days ! Thanks for the video
This is the same argument in the RV space. No RV is ever the length of the model number.
Leave it to the boat marketing departments to create FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) about LOA, LWL, GT, DWT, etc. Thank you for clearing up all the confusion, you guys rock! I cant wait to see your Bering 82 floating in the water. Personally, I believe that everyone who drives a boat with an engine should have the appropriate education, training and licensing to be at the helm.
Thanks for hanging with us!
In New Jersey USA you do need to have a boat “License” for any boat with a motor. This includes electric trolling motors.
Beautiful Vessel 🚢 great Build. Thank you.
Thank you very much! 💙⚓️
Thanks to you both I’m still confused but now at a much higher level. ❤
🙈🙈🙈 Drop your questions in the comments & we'll try to get to them!
Thank you, in an unclear situation, I think you did your best to clarify the matter.
I'm really surprised people were so confused - I thought you were very clear as others are saying
Not clear enough it seems 🙈
Wow, that's a lot of information to remember! Thanks for putting this information out there! I had no clue! Thanks you guys!
Totally agree Rico, thats the first thing I do when watching a yacht tour, Length by beam gives a good indication of volume
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Thanks, this subject is new to me since I have only been using my yacht for inland waterways. I have been to several marinas, but no problem with slips.
This question is for Rico. If I am correct, you have twin QSM11 Cummins diesel engines in your new boat. Seems extremely under powered for a Bearing 82. QSM11 is a very dependable engine. Have worked on Cummins diesel engines for over 30yrs. Why not go with QSK23. It's still an inline 6 cylinder engine, just puts out way more power. At any rate, very good choice in engines.
Your insurance comments are totally on point. I have had boats for 40 years. The insurance companies will always ask about ownership history and any training you might have. The one question they always have is: Have you had any insurance claims in the past 7 years? Trust me, this is the big one.
In South Africa, where I live, a competency license is acquired for the use of any for any motor driven vesel of 15hp or more and being longer than 3.0 meters, what ever least of is applicable. Different levels of competency is required as these vessels grow in size and HP of the motors. Motor HP is less important, as competency is determined more by the vessel's water way utilization and size.
For instance, water-ways are categorized as inland dams, lakes and rivers, on the one end, and sea going on the other.
Boats are either motorised or under sail and/or rowing, and those have different size categories for captaincy and insurance purposes.
Boat sizes are ruffly, as I might get the precise lengths wrong, 3m to 9m, 9-20m, and >20, and then tonnage as the LOA goes above 28m
On the smaller vessels, distinction is also made between the number of motors. For example, in South African sea waters, boats with a single engine, are not allowed to go further than 1 nautical-mile from land without another means of propulsion, like either sails or another motor. Exception is made for bigger vessels above 20m, that may have one engine but then it must have another means of securing the vessel or making it save for itself or other boaters, if the main means of propulsion is lost.
Competency, in all cases, are measured and determined by the authorities through predetermined curriculum and the completion of an exam. These are policed, just like licencing for the use of motor vehicles on public roads, mostly by police, but also by nature conservation authorities, for inland waters, and the "coast-guard", for sea fearing vessels.
I currently hold a competency certificate for both inland, single and multi-motor driven vessels, as well as a certificate for multi-motor vessels to 9 meters LOA, for use out to 15 nautical-miles at sea. One can supplement these by attaining a licence addendum for use at night.
To legally go beyond 15 nautical miles, it is required to have a vessel bigger than 9 meters in length, with more than one means of propulsion, and a night rating. This will be what is required to basically operate a motorised vessel on the open ocean.
As far as insurance is concerned, there is no obligation in Germany, but it is advisable to take out insurance. You can complete this without having to prove how much experience you have with boats/ships. Rather, the value of the boat/ship is of interest. However, if you want to travel abroad, insurance is mandatory. You can then take out this through foreign insurance if you otherwise do not have insurance for the boat/ship.
I saw your tour of the Bering 77. Maybe that's what you should have stayed with! But, anyway any of us Subscribers and/or viewers look at it! It's no skin off our ass! LOL, LOL, LOL!
I just enjoy watching your COMPREHENSIVE tours! I've been on UA-cam the day they went live online and have been watching boat tours since I could find them.
I can say UNEQUIVOCALLY YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST! And I know why! You actually put in the work! You go through the boat before you video the tour. That's why you're so smooth and comprehensive. I registered a UA-cam Channel that when Google bought UA-cam something go screwed up and I lost access. New rules processes and procedures may allow me access again.
They did stay with it.
Please do a segment about obtaining a captains license and whether there are different types depending on boat size private or commercial etc.?
Thanks
I like Rico's idea of using square footage rather than length or beam width or even gross tonnage, because most people (in the U.S. anyway) are already very familiar with that sort of measuring stick when it comes to real estate, so it would be a pretty simple way to convey the true size of a boat that could be readily understood by all. Just a thought.
We are happy for you guys no matter what the numbers were/are. I am one of these guys that will not allow any company to tell me what I have to do before they take my monies banks/ins co ect. Boat paid for own where its parked. Only thing is spouse will not go for dumping the two homes we own for that 80 ft sail boat I need. Great video.
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I am shocked that you had negative feedback about the rebrand conversation as you and Alexei were truly clear that the change was predicated upon Volume, not length. Having said that, your explanation today was excellent, and as always beautifully stated.
Thanks for this video. A lot of great information about yachts and how companies market yachts.
Thank you for the update. I don't know what the problem was. You explained it all with Alexei. Love you guys! Take care! 🤩😍😘
I love this channel because I love these big boats ( yachts). But my favorite is the explorer models in all sizes. The bering brand is second to none it seems. What is odd about me liking these boats, is the fact that I am terrified of the ocean and I get physically ill when I am near a ship or crossing high bridges. And I am the shop Foreman for a bridge building company. FYI, I rarely leave the shop and go to any job site. Love the videos.
German Boat Licences are a bit confusing. There are 2 different ones. With the „SBF Binnen“ (for Inner Coastel Waters, Rivers) I am limited to 20m boat length. Exception: Only 15m on the Rhine. With the „SBF See“ (for marine waters) itself, there is no length limit (For Pleasure boats, no paid crew). The 24m regulation is only important if I drive boats with the German boat license in other Countrys such as the Mediterranean.
Thank you for sharing!
I agree with 80% here are my 2cents:
1. The diver most definitely will have to WORK more, because within the same LOA the square foot area will be xx% more.
2. Loa is used in the pleasurcraft to calculate dockage, even some marinas actually measuring your boat as it enters.
LWL is commercially and I personally think that's more a valuable way to judge, since overhangs actually hinder your abilities in rough seas
Rico, I Love, The square footage idea! It's a great starting point and so many more people can understand it. Besides, it kind of descripes the hole in the water the boat takes up. 👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome, thank you!
An interesting comparison would be the way BMW used to designate their different models. For example 535i used to mean 5 Series, 3.5 liter engine, Injected. Nowadays it's marketing for the most part but totally understandable for distinguishment of trim levels, options and capabilities.
The same people that are bugging you killed P-Nut the squirrel. No common sense. Love you show!🥰
Gross Tonnage is really one of the best compromises on measurement metrics vs model number. The biggest industry hurdle is likely going to be that using it as a model number you're going to be more easily able to compare vessels in regards to size/volume (which I think is why you see it in commercial and super yacht markets, because you're dealing with so much volume in general)
I've also come to like the LWL (Length at Water Line) for getting more realistic idea of livable space, not structural LOA, because for most "under 60" LOA vessels LWL * Beam is much more accurate than LOA * Beam. At least in most of the cases I've seen so far when trying to figure out which models are likely to have the most livable space.
Either way, thank you for the more detailed look into the insurance and captain license requirements!
I’ve always wondered why boat manufacturers start out calling a boat say 40’. Then after a couple years they change absolutely nothing pertaining to physical size then it becomes a 42’ and sometimes a few more years later the exact boat then is called a 44’. My boat is an older 39’ and the newer boats that are labeled 42’ have far less beam and interior volume than my older boat. I’m glad they call my 39’ foot because in my state the registration goes way up 40’ and larger. I was told if the boat has a bolt on swim platform which mine does they rate the length not including the platform. Boats with integrated swim platform that count it as part of the length.
A swim platform or duck board is like a tow bar on a car. A car's length is always measured bumper to bumper. As far as model names and numbers in the name not matching up to specifications of the vessel is not really relevant these days and are just a talking point. I think Mercedes-Benz made this adjustment years ago where their model numbers stopped representing the capacity of the engines eg. A 420 SE was a 4.2 litre and a 300 E was a 3.0 litre and so forth. I think the first to change this trend was the 560 SEC and SE/SEL. It was actually a 5.5 litre, but odd numbers were delegated to diesel vehicles, and another example is the AMG 63 motor which is actually a 6.2, but the marketing people felt 63 sounded better after the AMG name.
Thank you for the insight!! 🙌🙌
Aviation insurance is the same way -- The regs might say you can fly something, but the insurance requirements will always be more stringent and require more time.
Thanks for the up date..I had a few question but i figured you'll had enough to do an worry about on you own..Glad all is working out and Love You Show...
Awww thank you so much - we appreciate you!
You made it clear enough in the original video for me to understand it was simply a model# change.
A person looking to be a yacht would be crazy not to look into the specificatiions closely before their purchase.
You are right
Knowing from previous videos that your boat was longer than the '75' name made it easy to understand the branding change in my case. I wish boat builders named the boat true to the LOA but I can understand why they don't want to. As someone not in the boat world, it's interesting the 3 ft wiggle room the marina's give you. I wonder if that's the general rule builders follow?
Here we have two licensed captains who live and breathe this stuff. They're experienced in many aspects of the boating and chartering industry and are actively involved in various businesses. Globally. They've recently partnered with a respected builder and collectively have access to a century of know-how, experience and advise.
The internet: you guys don't know what you're doing!
Lol. People really do have a problem staying within their own wheelhouses. Pun intended. I'm gonna hazard a guess and say you've probably done your research and looked into options. Let's just call that a hunch. :)
I have a tendency to tell those people to just shut up and sit down so must commend your patience. And if i was that hypothetical diver? Maybe take beam into consideration as well? Scope of work is a thing.
All that aside - When do we get to see the progress on the big girl?
Thank youuuu! We have a HUGE announcement next weekend for you guys!!
Ahhh shucks, I was hoping to get a good deal on your B75 hull since you guys got “tricked” into the upgraded B82 😉 (just in case - this is a joke, please don’t get caught up the semantics) Good job guys, continuing congrats on this exciting project, would love to crew your big prop boat someday!
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I think they will be just fine $$ wise I don't think anything is a issue lol Just a regional confusion. Love the videos keep em coming
Bering 82 typically ranges around $8 million to $10 million, depending on customization and specifications.
After Purchase and Maintenance Costs PMCS is insane never thought of half of these
Annual Maintenance: Maintenance costs, including engine servicing, hull cleaning, and general upkeep, can range from $150,000 to $300,000 per year.
Insurance: Annual insurance costs are approximately $30,000 to $50,000.
Docking and Storage: Costs vary by location but generally range from $30,000 to $60,000 annually.
Running Costs
Crew Salaries: Employing a small crew of 2-3 members will cost around $100,000 to $200,000 per year.
Provisions and Supplies: These costs can range from $50,000 to $100,000 annually, depending on usage and destinations.
Miscellaneous: Additional costs such as licensing, internet, and satellite communications can add another $10,000 to $20,000 per year.
Fueling Prices
The Bering 82 has a fuel capacity of 24,178 liters (6,387 gallons). The cost of marine diesel fuel varies, but as of mid-2024, the price is approximately $4 to $5 per gallon, making a full refuel cost between $25,548 and $31,935.
I appreciate the information that you are giving is truly helping me when the time comes to buy my yacht from the bearing company.
I appreciate all the effort in all there information. Keep up the great work.
You have truly inspire me about the super yacht industry. Thank you and god bless
Happy to share our experiences!
Congrats on the new boat! Hope you guys love it once it arrives. Keep up the great work on your channel 👍🏾.
You guys are great. I am hopeful you bet to this next chapter of the Bering 82. Get it done!
I thought Alexei was very clear about why your ship was changed from a B75 to a B82.
Your delemma requires you to comtimplate having a big check book or cash handy at all times thanks for sharing ytou guys are a treat. a fan.
What a tremendous service you provided with this video. Thanks. 😊
This was great! Love that y'all was so detailed with the explanation's of the comment you received
Gee I figured with no video from Nautiguys yesterday, we weren’t getting one from this channel as well. I was happily shocked to see this pop up. Thank you for clearing this misunderstanding up. Great explanation!!Insurance is the biggest hindrance to boat ownership. Nicky and Jason talked about this on their video today. The flag state choice was driven by the insurance- and lack there of of insurers writing policies. Don’t muddy the waters with square footage. BTW- nice shirt RICO!
Thanks for sharing!