The Asgard left earth with their knowledge core. Maybe a show idea could be that Earth discovers more information about the Ferlings and goes to explore a planet mentioned in the asgard database and opens a whole can of worms that the galaxy would have to defend themselves from. Just an idea. Great video!
I’ve actually seen that idea before in a fanfic or two. Only thing is I feel like we got that with the Ori, but it’s been long enough since SG-1, and fans have been dying to know more about the Furlings.
I like the idea that they're still around but living in another dimension. Ancients ascended but furlings went somewhere else, away from everyone else. I wish we knew more about them.
I like the fact that they didn't show the furlings. Some times it's better to be left with a question than an answer. It allows for endless specilation
I would agree, but when it comes to one of the four members of the most powerful alliance in the universe that kind of question would need to be answered at some point. Even the Breen in Star Trek got a face reveal.
@@sg-24 They could have continued to give subtle hints toward what the creators intended for the show but an out right full reveal leaves a problem similar to giving Terrans the Atlantis City or the entire Asgard suppository. Too much power scale and the show might as well just be another Star Trek. With the limitations they are given it forces produces to keep the writing focused on small scale interactions and human stories.
For me, I would like to imagine the Furlings were/are another extra galactic species, like the Asgard. Extremely advanced, but way, way farther away than Asgards. So that at some point they were interested with relations with the other three, but just were not interested in dealing with them anymore after learning about the Ori and their war with the Ancients. And after learning about the Goauld, the Wraith, the Replicators and other similar species, they just decided it was not worthy and stayed in their own far far side of the universe. Which would explain why there was only a colony in the Milky Way and that´s just about it. Also, I always had the feeling that SG-1 writers never really knew what to do with Mesoamerican cultures, because that giant pyramid looks like a combination of Egyptian and Teotihuacan and yet they have an Aztec name when Crystal Skulls in real life are more asociated with Mayan culture (even when they have been proved mostly fakes), but there is also that episode where they found an advanced civilization using kids with nanites to get knowledge and develop their technology (where they got the first blueprint of what would become the Naquada/Naquadria generator) and said they were Teotihuacans. And also, not to forget that episode where some archeologists are exploring a mayan ruin and found a Goauld sarcofagus, implying mayans or a species with previous contact with mayans, not only had contact with the Goauld but even imprisoned one. Such a weird mix.
I do like that idea about the Furlings, especially the part about them being very far away. Also yeah Mesoamerican cultures in SG is really all over the place, and that’s not even getting into Infinity.
The older pnp books had some content for books that were unofficially released due to the dickery with regard to the Stargate license as a whole at that time, but hinted at them not being extra galactic, but some mix of interdimensional/interphased and had listed potential ties to the giants and the reetou
The ancient civilization to the southeast of ancient Egypt (now known as East Sudan) is known as Fur. You may have heard of a city named Da Fur, and there is one modern radio station that broadcasts in the language Furling. There's no doubt that the term Furling was selected based on knowledge of the civilizations that ancient Egypt actually interacted with. This would imply that the Furlings were on Earth in the past. That would also suggests that they could somehow pass as humans (though there are reports of European explorers that they found people in Africa without heads) therefore the Furlings probably appeared human or could appear human and for some reason left Earth. I would accept that perhaps the Goa'uld might've appropriated some of their technology from the Furlings.
I recall that Stargate youtuber. Never could bring myself to subscribe, just wasnt the presentation and presenter I found compelling to watch. Good to hear he isnt dead probably.
I’m weirdly meeting a lot of people today who didn’t think he was that great a of UA-camr. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, just something I never knew.
@sg-24 I always found that dude weirdly off putting for reasons I couldn't quite put my finger on. Maybe some of his word choices where a bit sexist or something, I don't know.
Well he did get married about half a year before that last enigmatic post. Perhaps a child or pregnancy? Little ones raise the bills and lower the free time for a couple decades.
These races came together, possibly sharing knowlege, ideas, technology. What if the Furlings were the ones who told ancients about ascension, hence them going down that path. Maybe the Furlings are ascended and the ascended ancients joined them there. We know theres rules and higher up ascended beings that keep an eye and intervene when necessary. Maybe thats the Furling. Whatever plane of existence it is it could be that they found it first and Ascension was an invitation.
Honestly your theory of the giant aliens being an AI system created by the Furlings sounds right. If the Furlings have gone extinct and the AI isn't aware of it but was programmed to bring petitioners for help to them if the goa'uld posed a problem it wouldn't conflict with anything that we have. And if we go with the Stargate Worlds interpretation of the Furling (which is a cool concept to have the fourth race being a single eldritch entity feels like it completes the sort of meta lore that Ascension brings with its more supernatural but scientific elements, it's also a gateway for more eldritch horrors in the setting I wouldn't dislike) which in wanting to enter in contact with humans but not scare them created something to use as proxy that would serve to not terrify the humans.
As for the furlings, I actually like the idea of it being a fan fiction insert race. That means anyone can invent whatever type of race they want or species of alien they want and call it the furlings in their own fan fiction lore or head cannon. It would actually be nice that a series set it up so fans could do that.
The Crystal skull transportation technology was very advanced, in some ways rivaling the ancients. Other than the Ori I can't think of another race that had technology like that.
That’s a good point, while I think the stargates are better no race ever came so close to replicating technology along similar lines without just copying the stargates. That being said the tech we know is the Furlings and the pyramids do seem different.
They do have interplanetary teleportation but I think in this case they are using the Stargates like the stone obelisks from Avalon. As long as the Stargate is on the planet it will teleport through its own matter converters.
My fan theory for the furlings is that they create or experimented on the goa'uld, as a means to survive the ancient plague (using their healing factor). While talking with another person we added the idea that the furlings devolved into the unas after being enslaved. The AI theory could fit in with the giant aliens. If they had a wider empire there might be multiple aliens that go by the name furling, meaning that all theories can be true, all the species that we theorise as fuelings are furlings, including the giant aliens and the grace aliens (mayhe even some aliens from universe if they're from another galaxy).
I like best the idea that the furlings were the Goa uld before they became the system lords. The dead symbiotes on the paradise world may have been there genuinely escaping the degradation of their race.
That’s kind of a somewhat popular idea I’ve seen. That the Goa’uld were the Furlings. Personally I’ve never really bought into the idea, but I do like the idea that the two are connected in some way.
I was always under the impression the giant aliens were their own species, though your mention of them potentially being an AI would be interesting to explore, especially as to why they didn't reappear in a storytelling sense. It's not that they don't oppose the GOa'uld, it's that they don't go out to fight them because they aren't programmed to.
I think that was the idea in the show, but it’s never give much though. Though that idea of them not activity targeting the Goa’uld due to programming is an interesting idea.
More than likely it would be a combination of their programming to help keep the crystal skulls from being targeted by the Goa'uld and a limitation of their physical capabilities. As such, the AI would serve as a kind of information hub for those wishing to oppose the Goa'uld.
Fermi's Paradox - Ancient Races were united by the Stargate Network and then decided to move on, leaving the care taker races to rediscover their artifacts and use the same time space bridge to discover one another. But not only is space vast, so is time, once they abandoned the gate network, they became lost to time. Tauri were slowly abandoning the gate network for spaceships or dimensionships and tinkering with causality. Paradoxes can only be tolerated with great distances in Time or Space and eventually they would evolve themselves outside the time space of the original gate network.. a multiverse where the gate network no longer worked.
if the furlings were one being or an extinct race then given what is said in the movie that pre-sates the show then RA could of been one as we know the cannon sort of changed from the movie to the show for example RA was not the last of the goa'uld race but could of been ment as the last of that host race and if the goa'uld were made as a caretaker race by them then having them turn and take over said race would be a twist the could explain why they became so powerful within such a short time this would also explain why we never see them on screen
I like that idea, the only thing is the body we see Ra has looks way to much like the Asgard. In fact one of the old RPG, and maybe the new one, stated Ra got so powerful by possessing the body of an Asgard.
@@sg-24 No worries. I thought it interesting since everyone focuses on the "fur" part without realising that "furl" fits better, especially with what you've pointed out with the more behind the scenes information.
I think the Goauld are the Furlings. So maybe originally they were a furry worm that could attach to the back of someone’s head and blend with them. They were peaceful creatures until after the 4 race alliance fell apart. They somehow got trapped on the Unas planet and had to adapt to the water to avoid the Unas and they had to burrow inside so they couldn’t be removed by other Unas and they had to take over the host Unas and because the Unas were so brutal that became part of the Goauld genetic memory over many many generations of Furlings blending with Unas and adapting to living in water they became the Goauld we know.
@@sg-24 it could explain why the Asgard never really did anything about the Goauld. With the Ancients gone and the Nox in hiding it was just the Asgard micromanaging their old friends the Furlings which have become the corrupted Goauld. I also found it interesting in your showing of the drawings of the humanoids and possible furling that the Head of the possible furling depiction is a coiled snake I’d have to rewatch the episode where they are trapped on that planet but did they explicitly say that the Goauld messed it up or did they just assume that when they found the skeletal remains of a Goauld, which could in fact be remains of a Furling but Jack just thinks it’s a Goauld who probably sabotaged they place with the plant.
They did give a time of when that Goa’uld would have died, I can’t remember, but it was an earlier version of the Goa’uld in their evolution when they were more predators than parasites.
having read most of the books and taken the elements that don't conflict with presented Canon, and taking the spirit of the ideas presented or throwing out conflicting ideas, I'm open to the idea that the Giant Aliens are some advanced program made by the Furlings.
Love all the connections going into this. Personally i prefer a universe where not everything is connected and some things forever stay mysterious. If a reveal ever comes in a new show, I really hopw it feels earned
I did not like The Giant Aliens, but I really like the connection between Daniel Jackson and his grandfather. However, I do not think they are as bad as some have said. Great video!
@@sg-24 I agreed but I had also heard (not sure if it is true or not) that has to do with the actor who played Nicholas Ballard. He only did a handful more of roles before retiring in 2006 and he passed away in 2009. I also think that because we know so little about the main character's family. Carter for example has a brother with two children that we have seen only once. Jack's clone was never seen again. Jack's wife was seen once in Season 1. Teal's father was only seen once in flashbacks and we do not even know his mother's name. Whereas, Teal'c son has the most appearances with six episodes, which is not even one a season. Rya'c have one episode in Season 1, one episode in Season 2, and then two in Season 6, a parts, and then one in Season Seven and Eight. So that means in Seasons 3, 4, 5, 9, and 10 we did not see him at all. But like with Star Trek, countless characters are one-shot, according to the wiki almost like 1200 one-shot characters.
@ak102986 oh thats sad if that’s the case. I mean I get him wanting to retire, and there’s nothing that can be done when he died, but he was honestly really good in that role.
@@sg-24 I agreed. But the role was around 2000 and like I said according to his IMDB page he only did a handful of roles afterward. I think I counted like ten. None of them was TV which is the most demanding type of roles. This is why Richard D Anderson left playing Jack but would willing to come back for TV movies, etc.
If I remember right, there was a tiny about on the giant aliens in the AEG Stargate SG1 RPG's leaked stuff from Season 3 (which was a complete book save for printing when AEG lost the license). It also hinted at a connection between the Giants and the Furlings (and also hints towards the Reetou also being connected there). They were intending to tie the Furlings to the entire phase thing and stuff related to it with their tech and races that they'd mentored before venturing/retreating deeper into other phases of reality. There was also speculation in another unreleased book, their Quantum Mirror one that added some speculation that the Quantum Mirror technology was something designed in combination between the Furlings and Ancients. Unfortunately, that was stuff put up with the line was cancelled on the AEG message boards, which was hacked apart first when AEG pruned the content for their discontinued, licensed games (The other big one was Farscape), followed by the designers for the SpyCraft line (which included Stargate that used that version of the D20 system) buying out ownership of the game system and breaking off to form Crafty Games...which had the SpyCraft stuff pulled though some got reposted on the Crafty Forums before one of their early revamps of it that wiped a lot of stuff and now they've completely removed the forums (as has AEG). Also, there being writing in/at the pyramid is not disproved by Daniel's comment in the episode, he only states that there isn't any writing on the pedestal there, saying nothing about the rest of it
After reading a number of different reviews, I have come up with an idea that combines several of them. First, the original Furlings were a near-human extra-galactic species. Second, the Furlings incorporated multiple species into their culture. Third, the Furling in the canceled video game is the last known member of its species and is also somehow convinced that he is the last survivor of the Furlings muti-species culture. Fourth, the Giant Aliens were a dying species that were given a second chance at life as artificial beings by a member of the Furling culture, probably with the help of the Ancients. Fifth, there are around a dozen colony worlds with different species and different levels of surviving technology all claiming that they are the Furlings. These combined ideas could easily be used to create at least one or two seasons for a new spinoff/sequel series for SG1, where Stargate Command sends teams through the gate and on a new generation of starships to explore a region of space that was found in both the Asgard database and the Atlantis database as having been colonized by the Furlings. This region could contain both the unknown Grace aliens and the dead colony world from Paradise Lost. It could also allow for those claiming to be the Furlings in modern day to be reptilians, saurians, avians, felines, canines, vulpines, and humanoids, just to name a few possibilities.
I actually really love that idea. We don’t really see that in fiction all that much. Multiple species part of the same culture that take on the same name. The big one I can think of is the Protheans from Mass Effect, and that’s kind of it. I know that was an idea for the Breen for a while, before their true face was revealed.
Them being the creation of the furlings is ok. being the furlings themselves is a biti much. I like the stargate worlds approach to making the furlings a single furling but i think it should perhaps be a near ascended being like Apophis to explain the incredibly long life and non corporeal form. It would then make sense that while the furling is near ascended that it would have the knowledge to make artificial life in the style of the giant aliens and more and those artificials would then be referred to as furlings. It also then makes sense why the asgard and the ancients both felt comfortable enough with their own experiments into artificial life and ascension.
Each of the four races chose a different path for transcendence The asgard wanted to perfect their bodies and become immortal The ancients wanted to reach enlightenment to exist as" souls" leaving the concept of bodies behind. The nox dont do anything they stay neutral (maybe they believe the universe will adapt to them? Idk) The furlings may have become transdimensional...(my guess)
IMO in the entire story there were 2 good candidates for the role of the Furlings but both were introduced too early as another race to be retconed as furlings. First one being the giants who definitely fit the MO: withdrawn, technologically unique and actually interesting. Fits their way of aiding goa'uld opposers (building sanctuaries etc) The other one being the Ohne (the sea creatures) - Enemy of the Goa'Uld There was a 3rd option but not as strong IMO. And that was the Spirits
I've always like Tyler's race being the Furlings. The Fifth Race, The Fifth Man. They also are similar to the drawings. A nice simple retcon. But we also have the entire realm of SGU to consider. All the aliens that they encountered. Especially the ones that REALLY wanted to destroy the Destiny. Imagine the Furlings and the Ancients had a huge falling out, given time and legends. We wind up with the descendants of the Furlings only knowing that anything Ancient must be destroyed. That they believe the Ancients will hunt them down, to the ends of the universe, to destroy them forever. Kidnapping and trying to learn from the humans would be trying to gain info on the enemies - which just doesn't work out because the crew of the Destiny know nearly nothing about anything. I just have to work out why they hadn't destroyed the seed ship. But it's a new theory.
That would have been a cool connection, but Tyler’s race was given a name Reol in that episode. Also I do like that idea about the blue aliens, but I think they were given a name (behind the scenes), and I think Rush said they wanted the ship for its tech. I mean that could still work with the Furling idea. Maybe they knew the Ancients were more powerful than them and wanted the ship for that reason.
@@sg-24 Just for fun. I looked up "reol" and in can be an acronym for "Received End of Line". So......what if Tyler read THAT on a box too? As for Rush - he lies a lot. But I'll take their wanting the tech - then I don't have to work on a valid reason why they left the seed ship. And here we are. Still working out theories on a franchise that's been off the air for 13 years. I am so grateful that they treated fans as intelligent beings, and left us some random plot holes and enough material to have fun with them. Along with a great fandom that let's people have fun with the theories.
My head canon is that Goauld tech was Furling tech after either the Goauld defeated them or they left the galaxy. The Giant Aliens pyramid could have been Furling and they took it over later.
Small nitpick: 7:37 No writing on the pedestal, doesn't mean no writing in the whole pyramid. (Pretty sure there indeed isn't, but still.) I like the idea of giant people being related. Personally, I think they didn't really look like humans (but big and smokey). They just took that form. And they are one of the races that got help from the Furlings. So, that is why they were also in "heaven".
That’s is fair and something I did think of in the final edit, but we never really say any writing system. That is an interesting idea, them being a race helped by the Furlings. We do have some examples of them helping other races.
The Furlings were the annoying ones of the four races. They didn’t conquer or kill anyone but they were extremely annoying. The Ancient, Asgard and Nox tolerated them because they were their equals but after a while they became unbearable. The annoying neighbor with the loud car engine that doesn’t go very fast. They think they’re cool but they’re not. The Nox could not tolerate them any longer and were the first to leave the alliance. The Furlings didn’t think they did anything wrong (again, didn’t conquer or kill anyone) and thought the Nox were the annoying ones for always rolling their eyes at them. With only the Ancients and Asgard left, they found the alliance more trouble than it was worth without the Nox. The alliance was never formally disbanded. The Ancients and Asgard just missed more and more meetings as time went on until eventually they stopped showing up altogether. The Furlings never understood why.
@@sg-24 I'm picturing more of a "Eureka" situation, where you have experiments going wrong every second week. Yeah, sorry, we sent shock waves through hyperspace today, you may have experienced difficulties getting stargates to connect. But hey, we learned from it, we're working on an alternative mode of instantaneous transportation using crystal skulls now. Why? Because skulls are totally badass! Oh, and we found a cool site for our alliance meeting hall, it's got some really radical ocean view down some impossibly steep cliffs. And no, we won't settle for anyone else's suggestions. Oh, and we helped this one dude get started on making a humanoid girl form out of replicator cells. Haven't heard from him since, though.
@@sg-24 That wouldn't surprise me with peoples thirst for lore. I will admit I watch sg1 and atlantis at least once a year end to end along with my other fave sci fi shows haha.
It would make sense that the giant aliens made the Goa'uld or are some way connected to them, why else would the giant aliens be inside a massive pyramid? That pyramid was bigger than normal Giza sized pyramids and goa'uld didn't have ships that big till Sokars crazy cloaking mothership that Apophis stole was made. If they were the creators and the goa'uld rebelled or didn't turn out right from the start, then the goa'uld would've been influenced them. taking other ppls stuff is what they're best at. Although the fact Carter says shes has no reference for Furling tech must mean either their tech progressed or the goa'uld weren't able to emulate it but took styling cues.
I’m kind of against that idea, but only because I don’t like the idea of a reboot. But if the go the World route they could have them be the big bad, but more in a corrupted sense.
That would be, a new SG show about finding the Furlings. Also the first people, the Ohnes. I did a lore video on them, but I will warn you… it’s not very good.
I think the Furlings would have to be a sapient feline species like the Kilrathi from Wing Commander. The presence of cats and the reverence held by ancient Egyptian society could suggest the Goauld supplanted them on Earth long ago. It's all speculation. But if they had made three moves the third one would have had sapient felines in it.
Stargate does have cat aliens in it. Check out my Sekmet video or the OG SG lore which did include cat aliens. So it’s not unprecedented, and heck it would make the name make some sense. Also Stargate Guy was the goat.
So here's my idea for the next stargate series (or 3) replace all scenes of the sgc personnel and teams with people in animal costumes and just redo the entirety of sg 1 sg a and sg u, and just call it sg f or stargate furlings
The Furlings and giants could have been a coexisting species at some point, and (though while not canon) would explain the furling language in the temple. As for the journal and hints of the physiology it's possible that both could have been energy or trans-planar beings, as if the furlings were wiped out in paradise lost wouldn't it stand that larger beings would have been present along the human sized remains otherwise? would also support the irregular structure\armor of the concept art in worlds, and think something resembling animated armor might be at play here.
@@sg-24 Yeah, kind of the issue I have with one off and enigmatic races, it's hard to prove anything and at the end you're just left with a bunch of theories.
True, though it’s interesting the connections people will make. For example, we saw the Spirits open a Stargate without needing to dial, something we’ve only seen the Nox/Asgard do. Does this make them the Furlings? No, but it is interesting to see people make connections off small details.
@@sg-24 Yep though honestly in regards to the spirits, with half the stuff we saw them do it's not really surprising that they could open a gate, depending how you interpret the Nox's disappearing act they might hold powers similar as we've seen both perform rites to revive the fallen, and manipulate the world around them. Also didn't the gate open without dialing when the harcesis left during the conclusion of absolute power?
That’s…. Actually kind of a good point. Though someone just pointed out to me that maybe these guys can changed their form. There also the fact the tech we see in the episode was built so others (“minor” races) could travel to the colony. Maybe the built it that way. I mean the crystal skull is not giant sized.
I think your videos are better. It helps that you use an animatronic doll instead of a nerd.😂 Seriously though, if you review channels that do lore on different types of fictional settings, you will find the ones that do not show actual people standing up or sitting there doing a seminar or some other similar type of review gets more views. Apparently, science fiction fans do not like seeing real people give video dialogue.
I can kind of see why that is. Though there are some really good ones out there. So I’m curious what do you think, yes on the model? I decided to use it for this part to fill in for places where I didn’t have any footage.
I mean the ascendant beings we see are the Alterans. They usually have a glowy human form or just pure light. We know they can change their form, so it could be them. But the images I showed were part of a set related to the Streguis.
What is on screen is canon and anything else is subject to change by future screen writers. Also I find most of the supplemental material poorly written. But I think your idea is neat and speculating can be fun so have at it!
The canon of the show has never been very solid. Originally humans as a species evolved on earth and were spread by the Goa'uld because we serve as good hosts. Then the show had the Goa'uld bread a sub-species of human called Jaffa to be incubators for the Goa'uld. Then, we learn that humans are made by a race of ancients, in their own image, in order to worship them as gods in a galaxy far away a long time ago. And there are humans spread over multiple galaxies, not by the Goa'uld, but by their creators, the Ancients. But the Ancients in our galaxy are the good guys who don't like to be seen as gods.
Yeah, what makes it even more learn that after the Goa’uld left they would come by occasionally to pick up more slaves, but didn’t stick around to mark it in their maps. 🤷
I like this AI theory, it reminds me of what the Asgard were doing. I will be honest, I never liked the Omeyocan, I know they were an 'alien of the week' thing, but everything about this episode was off. Yes, I know the show is a fantasy but this was both bad history and science. Science in that this is not how neutrinos work at all. History in that they were clearly connected to the Mayans with a culture that didn't exist until long after Ra who they claimed to come before. Even the cultures before the Mayans didn't exist....so...
So some hard argued that the Goa’uld did show up on Earth after Ra left. And someone pointed out a specific episode were Daniel theorizes this is why they keep meeting cultures on other planets who showed up after Ra left. Personally I don’t think this. The Goa’uld are greedy fools, but they’re not that level of stupid. Still I’m glad you like my little theory.
@@sg-24 Personally that might be your next video right there, "Did the Goa'uld visit Earth after Ra?" or maybe "Which aliens actually visited Earth in the last 10,000 years?" What I find interesting about this question is the one thing the film and TV series tried to stay consistent with was the events with Ra, which always made me think the Goa'uld didn't revisit us...or...did they? I love to try and come up for ways on both sides of this debate would work. Against it... The System Lords don't seem to know about Earth in the show until we introduce ourselves to them. We know that the System Lords knew Ra was gone, and they began to fight for his territory, but none seemed to know about Earth, or even visited it as when they do finally come to Earth they are shocked at what's been allowed to happen with our population and technology. The gate was buried on Earth from Ra thousands of years ago, which means unless they came by ship they couldn't really have influenced a lot of the cultures we see in the TV show that develop thousands of years after the gate was buried. Those cultures didn't exist yet, and it I'm not certain it matters if we copied the Goa'uld or they copied us...because the problem is that to copy we would need to have had contact with each other. If they did come by ship, then they would have seen a populated world without Ra and either taken us, or unburied the gate, or....destroyed us. That's their MO. For it... Ra being the leader of the System Lords could have allowed them to come to Earth frequently under his rule to harvest humans, or maybe he literally farmed us out to them, which is how humans were influenced by them. However, I struggle with this point as it seems out of character for how both Ra and the System Lords operated as described in the TV show. Also they would need the gate active for this, and we know it was buried at this time. And again, if they came by ship...then they would have known about us and been back as soon as Ra was gone, or alerted Ra while he was alive, and either he or they would have dealt with us. But regardless there's the problem with the gate being buried for thousands of years. We know that Ra did not come back to Earth after the gate was buried. We know Earth was under his rule and/or territory, and remained so until he was taken out in the film. So in my opinion, that would mean the System Lords couldn't have been coming to Earth in the last few thousand years, or we would know about them, or they would know about us.
@unarealtaragionevole it’s defiantly something I will cover, and I will use parts of your comment in that video. Next two videos are already plan. Ones about the Wraith and next is the Nazis.
I think the furlings are a cousin race of asgard that broke away from the scientific community and refused to clone themselves and died out and maybe the Nox where there and as a thanks they build the nox cloud ship
@@sg-24 The Asgard from Atlantis broke off from the scientific community and they didnt identify as Asgard just like the Tokra became it s own race. The race itself was never Asgard , it was a rank or a title.
@ambrusraul2297 I’m not so sure on that. I know people call them the Vanir, but I think that’s a fan title or one given in the books. When Daniel called them the Asgard they didn’t correct him.
@SG- 2 4 The Ori are a religion or a cult ? suggestion video The Ori priests and followers dont exactly have a church . They meditate on elemental forces mostly fire ( Now we shall focus the powers of the Ori over this flame ) The closest thing to a church is the Palace of Celest but most masses are held in public meetings on town squares . If the goal is ascension and for now lets ignore Orlan because i wouldnt bet my existence on the ancients , why so many teaches feeding the poor and tolerance of deformed people 9x03 We have 2 brothers both farmers one has his crop very rich and plenty and the other crop is ruined. Is it not right for his brother to share his crop with his misfortunate brother ? The inquisition part screams catholic , however the teachings of the Ori are Christian like but what i fail to see SG-1 point of view , this religion is so perfect that saying no is very extreme , very rude and very stupid . And what in the heck did the ancients do for SG-1 that they are willing to join a war against people that left this realm ?
To be honest I’m not sure. I mean you could say that any religion is a cult. As for why SG-1 opposed them it was because the Ori had a you are either with us or “heretics that must be purged in the holy fires of the Ori!”.
0:11 I love your character costume.. I'm ALMOST getting a {Crusader - No Remorse} and {Crusader - No Regret} Enemy Guard vibe from it.. .lol I absolutely LOVE those games.. pretty sure they're still available on GOG. If you're not familiar check them out. Nothing better than OLD SCHOOL!!! lol
The Asgard left earth with their knowledge core. Maybe a show idea could be that Earth discovers more information about the Ferlings and goes to explore a planet mentioned in the asgard database and opens a whole can of worms that the galaxy would have to defend themselves from. Just an idea. Great video!
I’ve actually seen that idea before in a fanfic or two. Only thing is I feel like we got that with the Ori, but it’s been long enough since SG-1, and fans have been dying to know more about the Furlings.
I like the idea that they're still around but living in another dimension. Ancients ascended but furlings went somewhere else, away from everyone else. I wish we knew more about them.
@LJGrindewald me too
I like the fact that they didn't show the furlings. Some times it's better to be left with a question than an answer. It allows for endless specilation
I would agree, but when it comes to one of the four members of the most powerful alliance in the universe that kind of question would need to be answered at some point. Even the Breen in Star Trek got a face reveal.
@@sg-24 They could have continued to give subtle hints toward what the creators intended for the show but an out right full reveal leaves a problem similar to giving Terrans the Atlantis City or the entire Asgard suppository. Too much power scale and the show might as well just be another Star Trek. With the limitations they are given it forces produces to keep the writing focused on small scale interactions and human stories.
For me, I would like to imagine the Furlings were/are another extra galactic species, like the Asgard. Extremely advanced, but way, way farther away than Asgards. So that at some point they were interested with relations with the other three, but just were not interested in dealing with them anymore after learning about the Ori and their war with the Ancients. And after learning about the Goauld, the Wraith, the Replicators and other similar species, they just decided it was not worthy and stayed in their own far far side of the universe. Which would explain why there was only a colony in the Milky Way and that´s just about it.
Also, I always had the feeling that SG-1 writers never really knew what to do with Mesoamerican cultures, because that giant pyramid looks like a combination of Egyptian and Teotihuacan and yet they have an Aztec name when Crystal Skulls in real life are more asociated with Mayan culture (even when they have been proved mostly fakes), but there is also that episode where they found an advanced civilization using kids with nanites to get knowledge and develop their technology (where they got the first blueprint of what would become the Naquada/Naquadria generator) and said they were Teotihuacans. And also, not to forget that episode where some archeologists are exploring a mayan ruin and found a Goauld sarcofagus, implying mayans or a species with previous contact with mayans, not only had contact with the Goauld but even imprisoned one. Such a weird mix.
I do like that idea about the Furlings, especially the part about them being very far away.
Also yeah Mesoamerican cultures in SG is really all over the place, and that’s not even getting into Infinity.
The older pnp books had some content for books that were unofficially released due to the dickery with regard to the Stargate license as a whole at that time, but hinted at them not being extra galactic, but some mix of interdimensional/interphased and had listed potential ties to the giants and the reetou
The Giant Aliens = AI created by the Furlings. That idea makes sense.
I enjoyed Beard vs Geek and his Stargate only channel. Good videos IMHO.
They are good, even if still now I think
The ancient civilization to the southeast of ancient Egypt (now known as East Sudan) is known as Fur. You may have heard of a city named Da Fur, and there is one modern radio station that broadcasts in the language Furling. There's no doubt that the term Furling was selected based on knowledge of the civilizations that ancient Egypt actually interacted with. This would imply that the Furlings were on Earth in the past. That would also suggests that they could somehow pass as humans (though there are reports of European explorers that they found people in Africa without heads) therefore the Furlings probably appeared human or could appear human and for some reason left Earth. I would accept that perhaps the Goa'uld might've appropriated some of their technology from the Furlings.
I recall that Stargate youtuber. Never could bring myself to subscribe, just wasnt the presentation and presenter I found compelling to watch. Good to hear he isnt dead probably.
I’m weirdly meeting a lot of people today who didn’t think he was that great a of UA-camr. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, just something I never knew.
@sg-24 I always found that dude weirdly off putting for reasons I couldn't quite put my finger on. Maybe some of his word choices where a bit sexist or something, I don't know.
Huh, never heard him described that way before. Then again it has been some time since I watched his stuff.
Well he did get married about half a year before that last enigmatic post. Perhaps a child or pregnancy? Little ones raise the bills and lower the free time for a couple decades.
Oh it does. I don’t have kids, but my brother does.
These races came together, possibly sharing knowlege, ideas, technology. What if the Furlings were the ones who told ancients about ascension, hence them going down that path. Maybe the Furlings are ascended and the ascended ancients joined them there. We know theres rules and higher up ascended beings that keep an eye and intervene when necessary. Maybe thats the Furling. Whatever plane of existence it is it could be that they found it first and Ascension was an invitation.
Oh that’s an interesting idea, though know all I can imagine is those Kolos bears hanging out in the cafe with the Ancients.
@@sg-24 aha. I thought some of those ancients weren't using their real faces. Possibly just shown as a mere perception from Daniels point of view.
Honestly your theory of the giant aliens being an AI system created by the Furlings sounds right. If the Furlings have gone extinct and the AI isn't aware of it but was programmed to bring petitioners for help to them if the goa'uld posed a problem it wouldn't conflict with anything that we have. And if we go with the Stargate Worlds interpretation of the Furling (which is a cool concept to have the fourth race being a single eldritch entity feels like it completes the sort of meta lore that Ascension brings with its more supernatural but scientific elements, it's also a gateway for more eldritch horrors in the setting I wouldn't dislike) which in wanting to enter in contact with humans but not scare them created something to use as proxy that would serve to not terrify the humans.
Thank you for the comment and agree with my idea. Worlds did have some cool ideas I’m sad we might never get.
As for the furlings, I actually like the idea of it being a fan fiction insert race. That means anyone can invent whatever type of race they want or species of alien they want and call it the furlings in their own fan fiction lore or head cannon. It would actually be nice that a series set it up so fans could do that.
So kind of like what the Breen were before well… Discovery.
@@sg-24 XD NOOO DISCOVERYYYY
They should be reptiles for the sake of irony. I reject any depiction that doesn't have scales.
What about feathers?
@@sg-24 I will accept feathers in addition to scales, but the scales gotta be there too.
Really cool video, well researched.
Thank you.
The Crystal skull transportation technology was very advanced, in some ways rivaling the ancients. Other than the Ori I can't think of another race that had technology like that.
That’s a good point, while I think the stargates are better no race ever came so close to replicating technology along similar lines without just copying the stargates.
That being said the tech we know is the Furlings and the pyramids do seem different.
They do have interplanetary teleportation but I think in this case they are using the Stargates like the stone obelisks from Avalon. As long as the Stargate is on the planet it will teleport through its own matter converters.
My fan theory for the furlings is that they create or experimented on the goa'uld, as a means to survive the ancient plague (using their healing factor). While talking with another person we added the idea that the furlings devolved into the unas after being enslaved.
The AI theory could fit in with the giant aliens. If they had a wider empire there might be multiple aliens that go by the name furling, meaning that all theories can be true, all the species that we theorise as fuelings are furlings, including the giant aliens and the grace aliens (mayhe even some aliens from universe if they're from another galaxy).
I do like that idea of a multiple species going by the same name. Not a lot of fiction empires really do that.
I like best the idea that the furlings were the Goa uld before they became the system lords. The dead symbiotes on the paradise world may have been there genuinely escaping the degradation of their race.
That’s kind of a somewhat popular idea I’ve seen. That the Goa’uld were the Furlings. Personally I’ve never really bought into the idea, but I do like the idea that the two are connected in some way.
I was always under the impression the giant aliens were their own species, though your mention of them potentially being an AI would be interesting to explore, especially as to why they didn't reappear in a storytelling sense. It's not that they don't oppose the GOa'uld, it's that they don't go out to fight them because they aren't programmed to.
I think that was the idea in the show, but it’s never give much though. Though that idea of them not activity targeting the Goa’uld due to programming is an interesting idea.
More than likely it would be a combination of their programming to help keep the crystal skulls from being targeted by the Goa'uld and a limitation of their physical capabilities. As such, the AI would serve as a kind of information hub for those wishing to oppose the Goa'uld.
I like the idea that the giant aliens were either the Furl:ing‘s, or somehow connected to them.
I like the idea that they were one entity like an AI and it's avatars.
Fermi's Paradox - Ancient Races were united by the Stargate Network and then decided to move on, leaving the care taker races to rediscover their artifacts and use the same time space bridge to discover one another. But not only is space vast, so is time, once they abandoned the gate network, they became lost to time. Tauri were slowly abandoning the gate network for spaceships or dimensionships and tinkering with causality. Paradoxes can only be tolerated with great distances in Time or Space and eventually they would evolve themselves outside the time space of the original gate network.. a multiverse where the gate network no longer worked.
if the furlings were one being or an extinct race then given what is said in the movie that pre-sates the show then RA could of been one as we know the cannon sort of changed from the movie to the show for example RA was not the last of the goa'uld race but could of been ment as the last of that host race and if the goa'uld were made as a caretaker race by them then having them turn and take over said race would be a twist the could explain why they became so powerful within such a short time this would also explain why we never see them on screen
I like that idea, the only thing is the body we see Ra has looks way to much like the Asgard. In fact one of the old RPG, and maybe the new one, stated Ra got so powerful by possessing the body of an Asgard.
Dude....that was Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeppp.
Well done.
Chapeau sir, Chapeau
Deep? My friend we’ve just hit the tip of the ice berg.
furlings fold spacetime, they furl and unfurl spacetime. here's to another 17 seasons
This is a good theory.
Also,
Furling
Noun. The act by which something is furled.
Furling certainly suggests rolling and unrolling _whispy_ things!
Thank you for the comment. I also didn’t know that. 👍
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No worries. I thought it interesting since everyone focuses on the "fur" part without realising that "furl" fits better, especially with what you've pointed out with the more behind the scenes information.
Also... i'd say the Furlings ascended. And the giant aliens.
So they both are hanging out in a dinner? 🙃
I think the Goauld are the Furlings.
So maybe originally they were a furry worm that could attach to the back of someone’s head and blend with them. They were peaceful creatures until after the 4 race alliance fell apart. They somehow got trapped on the Unas planet and had to adapt to the water to avoid the Unas and they had to burrow inside so they couldn’t be removed by other Unas and they had to take over the host Unas and because the Unas were so brutal that became part of the Goauld genetic memory over many many generations of Furlings blending with Unas and adapting to living in water they became the Goauld we know.
I’ll admit I was skeptical of the idea at first, but honesty something like that could work.
@@sg-24 it could explain why the Asgard never really did anything about the Goauld. With the Ancients gone and the Nox in hiding it was just the Asgard micromanaging their old friends the Furlings which have become the corrupted Goauld.
I also found it interesting in your showing of the drawings of the humanoids and possible furling that the Head of the possible furling depiction is a coiled snake
I’d have to rewatch the episode where they are trapped on that planet but did they explicitly say that the Goauld messed it up or did they just assume that when they found the skeletal remains of a Goauld, which could in fact be remains of a Furling but Jack just thinks it’s a Goauld who probably sabotaged they place with the plant.
They did give a time of when that Goa’uld would have died, I can’t remember, but it was an earlier version of the Goa’uld in their evolution when they were more predators than parasites.
having read most of the books and taken the elements that don't conflict with presented Canon, and taking the spirit of the ideas presented or throwing out conflicting ideas, I'm open to the idea that the Giant Aliens are some advanced program made by the Furlings.
Love all the connections going into this. Personally i prefer a universe where not everything is connected and some things forever stay mysterious. If a reveal ever comes in a new show, I really hopw it feels earned
That’s fair, not everything needs to be connected, but if they did it right I could see this working.
I did not like The Giant Aliens, but I really like the connection between Daniel Jackson and his grandfather.
However, I do not think they are as bad as some have said. Great video!
Thank you for the comment. It was kind of sad they couldn’t think of any more episodes for Daniel and Nick.
@@sg-24 I agreed but I had also heard (not sure if it is true or not) that has to do with the actor who played Nicholas Ballard. He only did a handful more of roles before retiring in 2006 and he passed away in 2009.
I also think that because we know so little about the main character's family. Carter for example has a brother with two children that we have seen only once. Jack's clone was never seen again. Jack's wife was seen once in Season 1. Teal's father was only seen once in flashbacks and we do not even know his mother's name. Whereas, Teal'c son has the most appearances with six episodes, which is not even one a season. Rya'c have one episode in Season 1, one episode in Season 2, and then two in Season 6, a parts, and then one in Season Seven and Eight. So that means in Seasons 3, 4, 5, 9, and 10 we did not see him at all.
But like with Star Trek, countless characters are one-shot, according to the wiki almost like 1200 one-shot characters.
@ak102986 oh thats sad if that’s the case. I mean I get him wanting to retire, and there’s nothing that can be done when he died, but he was honestly really good in that role.
@@sg-24 I agreed. But the role was around 2000 and like I said according to his IMDB page he only did a handful of roles afterward. I think I counted like ten. None of them was TV which is the most demanding type of roles. This is why Richard D Anderson left playing Jack but would willing to come back for TV movies, etc.
If I remember right, there was a tiny about on the giant aliens in the AEG Stargate SG1 RPG's leaked stuff from Season 3 (which was a complete book save for printing when AEG lost the license). It also hinted at a connection between the Giants and the Furlings (and also hints towards the Reetou also being connected there).
They were intending to tie the Furlings to the entire phase thing and stuff related to it with their tech and races that they'd mentored before venturing/retreating deeper into other phases of reality.
There was also speculation in another unreleased book, their Quantum Mirror one that added some speculation that the Quantum Mirror technology was something designed in combination between the Furlings and Ancients.
Unfortunately, that was stuff put up with the line was cancelled on the AEG message boards, which was hacked apart first when AEG pruned the content for their discontinued, licensed games (The other big one was Farscape), followed by the designers for the SpyCraft line (which included Stargate that used that version of the D20 system) buying out ownership of the game system and breaking off to form Crafty Games...which had the SpyCraft stuff pulled though some got reposted on the Crafty Forums before one of their early revamps of it that wiped a lot of stuff and now they've completely removed the forums (as has AEG).
Also, there being writing in/at the pyramid is not disproved by Daniel's comment in the episode, he only states that there isn't any writing on the pedestal there, saying nothing about the rest of it
Really? I wish that stuff was still up/available somewhere. How did the retou tie into this?
Also that is fair about Daniel’s comment.
They had a candidate for The Furlings which is The Spirits. Such wasted potential. I like the spirits.
They did eventually give them some lore, but yeah sadly no the Furling.
After reading a number of different reviews, I have come up with an idea that combines several of them. First, the original Furlings were a near-human extra-galactic species. Second, the Furlings incorporated multiple species into their culture. Third, the Furling in the canceled video game is the last known member of its species and is also somehow convinced that he is the last survivor of the Furlings muti-species culture. Fourth, the Giant Aliens were a dying species that were given a second chance at life as artificial beings by a member of the Furling culture, probably with the help of the Ancients. Fifth, there are around a dozen colony worlds with different species and different levels of surviving technology all claiming that they are the Furlings. These combined ideas could easily be used to create at least one or two seasons for a new spinoff/sequel series for SG1, where Stargate Command sends teams through the gate and on a new generation of starships to explore a region of space that was found in both the Asgard database and the Atlantis database as having been colonized by the Furlings. This region could contain both the unknown Grace aliens and the dead colony world from Paradise Lost. It could also allow for those claiming to be the Furlings in modern day to be reptilians, saurians, avians, felines, canines, vulpines, and humanoids, just to name a few possibilities.
I actually really love that idea. We don’t really see that in fiction all that much. Multiple species part of the same culture that take on the same name. The big one I can think of is the Protheans from Mass Effect, and that’s kind of it. I know that was an idea for the Breen for a while, before their true face was revealed.
@@sg-24 I would say that the Covenant from Halo might also count, but I'm not entirely sure.
@GuardianSage maybe for the elites and prophets, but I’d say no for the grunts.
Them being the creation of the furlings is ok. being the furlings themselves is a biti much. I like the stargate worlds approach to making the furlings a single furling but i think it should perhaps be a near ascended being like Apophis to explain the incredibly long life and non corporeal form. It would then make sense that while the furling is near ascended that it would have the knowledge to make artificial life in the style of the giant aliens and more and those artificials would then be referred to as furlings. It also then makes sense why the asgard and the ancients both felt comfortable enough with their own experiments into artificial life and ascension.
Each of the four races chose a different path for transcendence
The asgard wanted to perfect their bodies and become immortal
The ancients wanted to reach enlightenment to exist as" souls" leaving the concept of bodies behind.
The nox dont do anything they stay neutral (maybe they believe the universe will adapt to them? Idk)
The furlings may have become transdimensional...(my guess)
IMO in the entire story there were 2 good candidates for the role of the Furlings but both were introduced too early as another race to be retconed as furlings.
First one being the giants who definitely fit the MO: withdrawn, technologically unique and actually interesting. Fits their way of aiding goa'uld opposers (building sanctuaries etc)
The other one being the Ohne (the sea creatures) - Enemy of the Goa'Uld
There was a 3rd option but not as strong IMO. And that was the Spirits
That’s a pretty good list of candidates.
I've always like Tyler's race being the Furlings. The Fifth Race, The Fifth Man. They also are similar to the drawings. A nice simple retcon.
But we also have the entire realm of SGU to consider. All the aliens that they encountered. Especially the ones that REALLY wanted to destroy the Destiny. Imagine the Furlings and the Ancients had a huge falling out, given time and legends. We wind up with the descendants of the Furlings only knowing that anything Ancient must be destroyed. That they believe the Ancients will hunt them down, to the ends of the universe, to destroy them forever. Kidnapping and trying to learn from the humans would be trying to gain info on the enemies - which just doesn't work out because the crew of the Destiny know nearly nothing about anything. I just have to work out why they hadn't destroyed the seed ship. But it's a new theory.
That would have been a cool connection, but Tyler’s race was given a name Reol in that episode. Also I do like that idea about the blue aliens, but I think they were given a name (behind the scenes), and I think Rush said they wanted the ship for its tech. I mean that could still work with the Furling idea. Maybe they knew the Ancients were more powerful than them and wanted the ship for that reason.
@@sg-24 Just for fun. I looked up "reol" and in can be an acronym for "Received End of Line". So......what if Tyler read THAT on a box too? As for Rush - he lies a lot. But I'll take their wanting the tech - then I don't have to work on a valid reason why they left the seed ship. And here we are. Still working out theories on a franchise that's been off the air for 13 years. I am so grateful that they treated fans as intelligent beings, and left us some random plot holes and enough material to have fun with them. Along with a great fandom that let's people have fun with the theories.
My head canon is that Goauld tech was Furling tech after either the Goauld defeated them or they left the galaxy. The Giant Aliens pyramid could have been Furling and they took it over later.
Maybe, the Goa’uld are scavengers.
Small nitpick: 7:37 No writing on the pedestal, doesn't mean no writing in the whole pyramid. (Pretty sure there indeed isn't, but still.)
I like the idea of giant people being related. Personally, I think they didn't really look like humans (but big and smokey). They just took that form. And they are one of the races that got help from the Furlings. So, that is why they were also in "heaven".
That’s is fair and something I did think of in the final edit, but we never really say any writing system.
That is an interesting idea, them being a race helped by the Furlings. We do have some examples of them helping other races.
The Furlings were the annoying ones of the four races. They didn’t conquer or kill anyone but they were extremely annoying. The Ancient, Asgard and Nox tolerated them because they were their equals but after a while they became unbearable. The annoying neighbor with the loud car engine that doesn’t go very fast. They think they’re cool but they’re not. The Nox could not tolerate them any longer and were the first to leave the alliance. The Furlings didn’t think they did anything wrong (again, didn’t conquer or kill anyone) and thought the Nox were the annoying ones for always rolling their eyes at them. With only the Ancients and Asgard left, they found the alliance more trouble than it was worth without the Nox. The alliance was never formally disbanded. The Ancients and Asgard just missed more and more meetings as time went on until eventually they stopped showing up altogether. The Furlings never understood why.
Well, that is an interesting idea. Now I’m picturing the Kolo bears playing loud music in their yard
@@sg-24 I'm picturing more of a "Eureka" situation, where you have experiments going wrong every second week.
Yeah, sorry, we sent shock waves through hyperspace today, you may have experienced difficulties getting stargates to connect. But hey, we learned from it, we're working on an alternative mode of instantaneous transportation using crystal skulls now. Why? Because skulls are totally badass!
Oh, and we found a cool site for our alliance meeting hall, it's got some really radical ocean view down some impossibly steep cliffs. And no, we won't settle for anyone else's suggestions.
Oh, and we helped this one dude get started on making a humanoid girl form out of replicator cells. Haven't heard from him since, though.
Out of curiousity would you be doing a videon on the Foothold aliens? Wondering how much more info you might dig up on them xD
It is super weird that is the next next video topic I’m doing.
@@sg-24 hahaha bloody hell that timing
@Feyyore would you believe me if I told that’s not the first time this has happen.
@@sg-24 That wouldn't surprise me with peoples thirst for lore. I will admit I watch sg1 and atlantis at least once a year end to end along with my other fave sci fi shows haha.
Furlings indeed are the "Evok" from ep. 200. Must be - they were FURRy! And the writers saying it was a joke is just to confuse us.😄
I really want that to be true.
It would make sense that the giant aliens made the Goa'uld or are some way connected to them, why else would the giant aliens be inside a massive pyramid? That pyramid was bigger than normal Giza sized pyramids and goa'uld didn't have ships that big till Sokars crazy cloaking mothership that Apophis stole was made. If they were the creators and the goa'uld rebelled or didn't turn out right from the start, then the goa'uld would've been influenced them. taking other ppls stuff is what they're best at. Although the fact Carter says shes has no reference for Furling tech must mean either their tech progressed or the goa'uld weren't able to emulate it but took styling cues.
If there's a stargate reboot, the furlings should be the big bads.
I’m kind of against that idea, but only because I don’t like the idea of a reboot. But if the go the World route they could have them be the big bad, but more in a corrupted sense.
Maybe, if there really is going to be a new Stargate, it can center around the Furlings? Just a thought. Oh, what about the fish people?
That would be, a new SG show about finding the Furlings. Also the first people, the Ohnes. I did a lore video on them, but I will warn you… it’s not very good.
I think the Furlings would have to be a sapient feline species like the Kilrathi from Wing Commander. The presence of cats and the reverence held by ancient Egyptian society could suggest the Goauld supplanted them on Earth long ago. It's all speculation. But if they had made three moves the third one would have had sapient felines in it.
Oh. And Stargate guy's theories are wack!
Stargate does have cat aliens in it. Check out my Sekmet video or the OG SG lore which did include cat aliens. So it’s not unprecedented, and heck it would make the name make some sense.
Also Stargate Guy was the goat.
The stylised depiction appears as though the order of body parts goes: head, body, arms and legs. More like an aquatic mollusc of some sort.
Okay, I can see that order. Though that makes me wonder what mollusc it could have been?
Maybe the giant aliens were the "ascended" firms of the Furlings?
So here's my idea for the next stargate series (or 3) replace all scenes of the sgc personnel and teams with people in animal costumes and just redo the entirety of sg 1 sg a and sg u, and just call it sg f or stargate furlings
…… I’d watch it. Cameron can be a lion.
The Furlings came to earth pre-SG1 and played acting roles like ewoks to blend it.
I knew those bears seemed off in Return of the Jedi…. Wait does that mean Furlings eat humans!
@@sg-24 They have to cook us first or they may get worms. but yea sure why not.
The Furlings and giants could have been a coexisting species at some point, and (though while not canon) would explain the furling language in the temple.
As for the journal and hints of the physiology it's possible that both could have been energy or trans-planar beings, as if the furlings were wiped out in paradise lost wouldn't it stand that larger beings would have been present along the human sized remains otherwise? would also support the irregular structure\armor of the concept art in worlds, and think something resembling animated armor might be at play here.
That is a good point, we never did see the bodies of any giant. Though like I said those bodies are kind of strange rabbit hole.
@@sg-24 Yeah, kind of the issue I have with one off and enigmatic races, it's hard to prove anything and at the end you're just left with a bunch of theories.
True, though it’s interesting the connections people will make. For example, we saw the Spirits open a Stargate without needing to dial, something we’ve only seen the Nox/Asgard do. Does this make them the Furlings? No, but it is interesting to see people make connections off small details.
@@sg-24 Yep though honestly in regards to the spirits, with half the stuff we saw them do it's not really surprising that they could open a gate, depending how you interpret the Nox's disappearing act they might hold powers similar as we've seen both perform rites to revive the fallen, and manipulate the world around them. Also didn't the gate open without dialing when the harcesis left during the conclusion of absolute power?
I’m not sure, I’d have to double check.
Giant smoke like aliens could probably change their shape to look more human, if they were having a chat with the monkeys.
It would have been easier to just compare the furling tech to the size of the aliens, maybe?
That’s…. Actually kind of a good point. Though someone just pointed out to me that maybe these guys can changed their form. There also the fact the tech we see in the episode was built so others (“minor” races) could travel to the colony. Maybe the built it that way. I mean the crystal skull is not giant sized.
I think your videos are better. It helps that you use an animatronic doll instead of a nerd.😂
Seriously though, if you review channels that do lore on different types of fictional settings, you will find the ones that do not show actual people standing up or sitting there doing a seminar or some other similar type of review gets more views.
Apparently, science fiction fans do not like seeing real people give video dialogue.
I can kind of see why that is. Though there are some really good ones out there. So I’m curious what do you think, yes on the model? I decided to use it for this part to fill in for places where I didn’t have any footage.
What about that alien winged snake being from Stargate eternity
Could that be a furling
I’ve though that idea as well, but Infinity is not canon, so can’t really use anything in the show as evidence.
If you ask me these drawings depict the ascendet ones. You know those god like beings of pure energy.
I mean the ascendant beings we see are the Alterans. They usually have a glowy human form or just pure light. We know they can change their form, so it could be them. But the images I showed were part of a set related to the Streguis.
What is on screen is canon and anything else is subject to change by future screen writers. Also I find most of the supplemental material poorly written.
But I think your idea is neat and speculating can be fun so have at it!
Thank you for your comment. Love to see someone just wants to have fun with the idea.
I think it was financial type stuff that he went into stocks,shares etc
Huh?
@@sg-24 The Stargate guy, watch his last episode, think he mentions it on there
Oh right! That sounds familiar. Sorry I thought you were saying the Giant Aliens went into stocks.
The canon of the show has never been very solid. Originally humans as a species evolved on earth and were spread by the Goa'uld because we serve as good hosts. Then the show had the Goa'uld bread a sub-species of human called Jaffa to be incubators for the Goa'uld. Then, we learn that humans are made by a race of ancients, in their own image, in order to worship them as gods in a galaxy far away a long time ago. And there are humans spread over multiple galaxies, not by the Goa'uld, but by their creators, the Ancients. But the Ancients in our galaxy are the good guys who don't like to be seen as gods.
Yeah, what makes it even more learn that after the Goa’uld left they would come by occasionally to pick up more slaves, but didn’t stick around to mark it in their maps. 🤷
I like this AI theory, it reminds me of what the Asgard were doing. I will be honest, I never liked the Omeyocan, I know they were an 'alien of the week' thing, but everything about this episode was off. Yes, I know the show is a fantasy but this was both bad history and science. Science in that this is not how neutrinos work at all. History in that they were clearly connected to the Mayans with a culture that didn't exist until long after Ra who they claimed to come before. Even the cultures before the Mayans didn't exist....so...
So some hard argued that the Goa’uld did show up on Earth after Ra left. And someone pointed out a specific episode were Daniel theorizes this is why they keep meeting cultures on other planets who showed up after Ra left. Personally I don’t think this. The Goa’uld are greedy fools, but they’re not that level of stupid.
Still I’m glad you like my little theory.
@@sg-24 Personally that might be your next video right there, "Did the Goa'uld visit Earth after Ra?" or maybe "Which aliens actually visited Earth in the last 10,000 years?" What I find interesting about this question is the one thing the film and TV series tried to stay consistent with was the events with Ra, which always made me think the Goa'uld didn't revisit us...or...did they? I love to try and come up for ways on both sides of this debate would work.
Against it...
The System Lords don't seem to know about Earth in the show until we introduce ourselves to them. We know that the System Lords knew Ra was gone, and they began to fight for his territory, but none seemed to know about Earth, or even visited it as when they do finally come to Earth they are shocked at what's been allowed to happen with our population and technology. The gate was buried on Earth from Ra thousands of years ago, which means unless they came by ship they couldn't really have influenced a lot of the cultures we see in the TV show that develop thousands of years after the gate was buried. Those cultures didn't exist yet, and it I'm not certain it matters if we copied the Goa'uld or they copied us...because the problem is that to copy we would need to have had contact with each other. If they did come by ship, then they would have seen a populated world without Ra and either taken us, or unburied the gate, or....destroyed us. That's their MO.
For it...
Ra being the leader of the System Lords could have allowed them to come to Earth frequently under his rule to harvest humans, or maybe he literally farmed us out to them, which is how humans were influenced by them. However, I struggle with this point as it seems out of character for how both Ra and the System Lords operated as described in the TV show. Also they would need the gate active for this, and we know it was buried at this time. And again, if they came by ship...then they would have known about us and been back as soon as Ra was gone, or alerted Ra while he was alive, and either he or they would have dealt with us.
But regardless there's the problem with the gate being buried for thousands of years. We know that Ra did not come back to Earth after the gate was buried. We know Earth was under his rule and/or territory, and remained so until he was taken out in the film. So in my opinion, that would mean the System Lords couldn't have been coming to Earth in the last few thousand years, or we would know about them, or they would know about us.
@unarealtaragionevole it’s defiantly something I will cover, and I will use parts of your comment in that video. Next two videos are already plan. Ones about the Wraith and next is the Nazis.
I think the furlings are a cousin race of asgard that broke away from the scientific community and refused to clone themselves and died out and maybe the Nox where there and as a thanks they build the nox cloud ship
That’s defiantly and interesting idea, given the relationship between Jaffa and Humans maybe something like that happened before.
@@sg-24 The Asgard from Atlantis broke off from the scientific community and they didnt identify as Asgard just like the Tokra became it s own race. The race itself was never Asgard , it was a rank or a title.
@ambrusraul2297 I’m not so sure on that. I know people call them the Vanir, but I think that’s a fan title or one given in the books. When Daniel called them the Asgard they didn’t correct him.
The furlongs are in episode 100
It was 200 and no, that wasn’t them.
@SG- 2 4 The Ori are a religion or a cult ? suggestion video
The Ori priests and followers dont exactly have a church . They meditate on elemental forces mostly fire ( Now we shall focus the powers of the Ori over this flame ) The closest thing to a church is the Palace of Celest but most masses are held in public meetings on town squares . If the goal is ascension and for now lets ignore Orlan because i wouldnt bet my existence on the ancients , why so many teaches feeding the poor and tolerance of deformed people 9x03 We have 2 brothers both farmers one has his crop very rich and plenty and the other crop is ruined. Is it not right for his brother to share his crop with his misfortunate brother ? The inquisition part screams catholic , however the teachings of the Ori are Christian like but what i fail to see SG-1 point of view , this religion is so perfect that saying no is very extreme , very rude and very stupid . And what in the heck did the ancients do for SG-1 that they are willing to join a war against people that left this realm ?
To be honest I’m not sure. I mean you could say that any religion is a cult. As for why SG-1 opposed them it was because the Ori had a you are either with us or “heretics that must be purged in the holy fires of the Ori!”.
0:11 I love your character costume.. I'm ALMOST getting a {Crusader - No Remorse} and {Crusader - No Regret} Enemy Guard vibe from it.. .lol I absolutely LOVE those games.. pretty sure they're still available on GOG. If you're not familiar check them out. Nothing better than OLD SCHOOL!!! lol
Wish I could say that’s were it came from, but no. Part of the model came from Battleborn that I altered to look like the armor from SG Infinity.
1:42 I'm concerned about ANYONE who refers to themselves in a message in the THIRD person.. This does not bode well...
I actually think that may have been his wife who made that post.