Man, it's great that you're out there enjoying the riding and showing people that there _are_ electric motorbikes - and they charge at DC fast charging stations. DC is the only way to do trips like that - AC would just make it impossible.
Cheers Paul! Yeah even if someone wasn't on a rush trying to do the whole 600km loop in a day like us, I don't think there are any level 2 chargers or even places to stay in that area yet.
@@SniperSnake50BMG yup. My channel has always been and will always be about electric sailing for instance. Nevermind my profile pic and past hundred videos.
Some years we do, some we don't. Haven't gotten a lot this year but it was below 20 F most of January and is finally warming up to upper 30s to 40s now. But we could still get a winter storm through March. @@NewZeroland
I do that loop almost fortnightly. Those roadworks are all to do with the damage caused by Cyclone Gabrielle. When the roads are fixed it will be even better. I'm on an "adventure" bike, so the gravel actually makes things more interesting for me. A couple of weeks ago I was overtaken by a driver that thought it was a rally stage... then they hit a big pothole and popped a tire.
Awesome, I'm always happy to see your videos pop up. A tip I learnt from another rider and something I do now is to wet a micro fiber cloth with window cleaner and put it in a ziplock bag, now I can clean my visor whenever I need to.
There was a decent earthquake North East of Masterton about 8 years ago. Then the flood damage from Cyclone Gabrielle last year. Beach at Porangahau well worth a visit.
Thanks for sharing, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to heighten the experience of motorcycle-riding with fabulous roads. We're pretty blessed with some good ones in Wellington including two featured in your previous videos, Takarau Gorge Road and Akatarawa Road, and a couple more I'm sure you've already enjoyed, Remutaka Hill and Paekakariki Hill. If anyone knows of verified lists for highly recommended roads to ride in NZ, please share them!
That's a great idea. We need an interactive map with all the fun motorcycling roads here! They could have photos and updates with road conditions. That'd be sweet!
Dude that Hwy 52 looks so much like CA-25 south of Tres Pinos, so good! My Ribelle arrived today and I already installed The Knob, thanks for that video too. Next is to figure out why it's balancing at 90%… I guess sitting on the sales floor for a year did a number on the pack.
Oooo I've never been on that road! I'll add it to the list for my next trip back. Hmm if it's still under warranty I'd have them check if all the cells are ok. Have you tried fast charging it yet? That could also bring up some issues you'd wanna know about early on. Good luck!
Now I realize why the previous owner of my ribelle took off that plastic shroud around the charger. I do love the look as you can see more wires and components. That and I'm not going to bother with getting new parts, heh
@NewZeroland you know what to do then.. life's too short for compromise.. can't beat ltr bikes for fun factor.. will have to check that road out.. have you done the Pahiatua track - Mangamarie - Mangamutu loop back to the Track & PNth.. fit it in some time.. those road works are likely part of the Kaikura quake aftermath !
@@Errol.C-nz yeah! The Pahiatua track is awesome but I haven't tried that road from Mangamaire! Next time I'm up there I'll hit that little loop. I'm tracing all the roads I've been to on a big map of NZ and I still have a ways to go.
Awesome trip! I wanted to visit that place with that super long name. Unfortunately did not have time for it, but definitely going to happen next year. There is also a space ship/rocket something station where we can see rockets flying :D
The gravel thing happened yesterday - great that they resurfacing but the odd one theres no warning on a patch and might *be doing 120k adrenaline is brown
Epic! I’ll be through waipuk on Wednesday for work. The top end of that road didn’t even look like GS territory hahaha. And as to the holes… well I’m not touching that one. Moore Wilson’s fresh orange juice omg. And what happened?? No knee down rimutaka action?? But seriously good fun, looks like kitten speed was used liberally!!
@@NewZeroland hahaha yeah perhaps that’s best kept undercover footage. No this one is work sadly, so in 4 wheels. I was motorcycle camping up the kaikoura coast over waiting though. Hot and by the ocean. Very nice.
Electric bikes and comments: I was helping my daughter out with a pamphlet delivery job the other day, she has a SuperSoCo TC moped which we use, absolutely perfect for curb crawling when you have a lot of mailboxes to get up to, then blast on by the house with No-Circulars or No Advertising signs on the letterboxes. Basically feels like a big mountain bike. Ended up chatting to one home owner for a few minutes about ebikes-emopeds-electric motorcycles etc.
Yeah man, after a while all the turns and curves start to feel the same and become monotonous. I’m surrounded by roads like that, and can only take so much of it 😆 sometimes I want a straight desert road with nothing around
Right?? Maybe it's less about the roads and more about the places we're riding through. As long as the scenery stays interesting, that's all I care about.
Did this road around 2 years ago was absolutely mint from what people have said the cyclone must of taken its toll. Have you done the Gentle Annie from Hastings to Taihape. Its in awesome condition and amazing views of Mount Ruapehu if you start in Hastings.
Should you ever travel that way again, as you leave Woodville make a left onto Pinfold Road then use Top Grass Road up to Dannevirke. I use it to avoid Dannevirke altogether, though you can Laws Road to drop you into Dannevirke if you need to (from the south).
I rode 52 2½years ago and the road from Wembledon Tavern south up to the Weber Rd turn off was a gravel/rock fill fruit fest. Interesting in all that time. Nothing much has changed. Sooo, way before Cyclone Gabrielle.
I also cheated and had a conversation with a rural postie who’d just stopped. So I knew what to expect. South from Webber Rd turnoff on 52 was a treat 🎉 Watch out for sheep and other things on the road 😁
Great video! Upgrade that suspension to Ohlins forks, and Race Spec Ohlins rear, and the rough road parts will become fun as well. World of difference. Stock suspension is not usuable on roads with bumps. :)
If you would like, I have great experiences with my Rockform phone holder case and mount. With my ICE bike it keeps it steady and I have no issues with my phone.
Same here w/ the northern hemisphere winter crazies - a joy to see you sweating while we have to layer up while risking on stone cold tyres & lesser winter temp capacities 😅 Nice tour BTW - really enjoyed that insight into the NZ back country twisties (despite the off-road bits) 🙂
The general rule with road surface quality in NZ is if it's on a dairy lorry route then it's crap, otherwise it's average to poor. I think I already know the answer but if you have an iPhone 6+ then I have a bike phone case and mount I no longer use? Your commentary on charger network maturity and eMoto public awareness could easily have been from one of your episodes 5 years ago! :-) Yes Simon, we all need Experias here ;-) Great to see you guys out clocking up the bends while summer is still with us.
Ain't that the truth! Some things change while so much stays the same. I'm at 8 years riding electric motorcycles and I'm still complaining about the same stuff. That's a problem! Thanks for the phone mount offer but I have a Huawei and getting lost adds to the drama :D
Wow - that was cool, I like change ;) good to see your changing it up bit and going off road. :P, I have a good friend that has just updated his second hand triumph for another second hand triumph, one day the second hand market will compete with electric bikes, and then maybe in the future your friend will go "Why did you bring the gas bike, their are no gas station here!!!". Can't wait. We spread the good news.... :)
So true!! I really hope that's what the future will be like! There's a pretty good used market in the US now, but barely any in New Zealand. There aren't enough electric motorcycles here yet, and nothing high-end like these are sold here. Maybe soon! Thanks for watching :D
My partner and I did that same route about a year ago (opposite direction). The road was just as bad when we did it. NZTA is too busy spending money on lowering speed limits to actually fix the roads.
Haha somebody else mentioned the cyclone being the cause of the bad road conditions, and that makes sense. But I agree. Motorcycle parking is going up to $2.50/hr in Wellington soon. Where's all this money going??
That was so awesome to watch! Very beautiful scenery :D And to get the word out we need a better infrastructure so nay-sayers lose their counter arguments. As long as charging can't be as spontanous as filling up gas, it won't change much. I notice that a lot when I do longer tours and I set my routes from charger to charger but most of the time they're not public, broken or busy so I spent an extra half an hours to look for a free and working charger. Marc showed us that you don't need a charger all the time! Just nice people :)
True that! Charging frustrations make me feel like I'm still an early adopter, even though I've been riding them for 8 years. On long trips like Marc's where you're not in a hurry, a wall outlet at a cafe is the perfect spot! I just wish it was easier. I don't want to download more apps 😂
@@NewZeroland In germany there are some providers which cover around 80-90% of all stations but they cost a bit more than having the individal apps. (ADAC and EnBW for example)
Another great video Sam. Lived at the top of the hill (Pukeora) going into Waipukurau for 2 years. Your video brought back memories for me. Last time I drove Hastings to Wellington via Masterton was September 2019. Lived in NZ for 55 years and didn't know about State Highway 52. Thanks again. I so much enjoyed this video. As for EV and electric motorcycle take up it's NZ that's why. Hopefully things change. I read about EV road user charges. Electric vehicles from April have to pay road tax as well. Take care from Greater London! 😊
Cheers Gary! Have you been north of Napier much? I still haven't been to a lot of those fun-looking roads up there that cut across diagnoally through the East Cape, and really want to get back on the bike and see them.
@@NewZeroland Yes I have travelled north of Napier more times than I can remember. I lived in Gisborne for 3 months in 2004 before moving to Auckland. I lived in the Napier/Hastings area for 50 years approximately.
@@garynarborough oh wow! Any recommendations for places to visit? I saw there's a natural waterslide just north of Gisborne. Parts of those roads look unsealed, but I guess I'm used to that now.
@@NewZeroland Is there another way I can contact you Sam? I'll have a good think and reply soon. Oh the long Maori name you saw, I've tried to pronounce it and it's impossible unless you are a fluent Māori speaker. A lot of the Maori names I can pronounce properly.
Nice. I knew there had to be some roads you hadn’t ridden yet. Beautiful trip as usual. How was the power consumption for the gravel roads? Does crawling preserve battery?
@@NewZeroland Yeah, so much so that fast charging here is at least €0,62/kwh. AC power is around €0,35. I have no idea how much NZkiwi's that is though.
OOH, a road trip vid, always fun to watch! Smart move to stagger charge rather than waiting for both stations to be available. I wonder if that super smooth road was brand new, It seemed almost too perfect. That place with the long name feels like they're trolling people, They might as well have called it "Areallylongwordjustsowecanlaughatpeoplewhotrytosayit." If you want electric motorcycles to be more visible maybe you need to start a motorcycle club... you could call yourselves "Silent Thunder" the quietest biker gang ever.
Too much windy road? Where I live that's all you get. There is no straight road, open views option. I really miss it sometimes. I wanna hammer along like the bikes in Mad Max. I highly recommend the quad lock phone mount for bikes. They are pricey though.
@@NewZeroland for sure, the case is so much lighter and thin, the locking doesn’t wear over time, and the case can have a finger loop if you want. Also there’s a motorcycle one with dampening or you can do you a mtb mount too.
Well, your videos have made it to Denmark, so somebody is watching. Oh, and on that note: Dannevirke was a series of fortified defense lines between Denmark and Germany in the Viking Age. Surest there’s a connection, since you saw vikings. Immigrants, I guess. Well, keep up the good work. Love to watch your content. 😊
Thanks man! Yeah, definitely related. Even New Zealand gets its name from Zeeland in the Netherlands. Maybe people came over and named these towns after their home towns. That's really interesting. Thanks for the info!
What a fun & adventurous road trip Sam! Isn’t crazy that they don’t provide shelter with solar panels to at least charge mobile phones or the like? Do you need to wait a while for the battery to cool before charging? I just don’t get it why the EV infrastructure is so slow to develop when the uptake is increasing? It’s got be frustrating? Cheers for sharing your thoughts.
Cheers man! I know.. it's crazy. I guess because EV charging stations are usually just in one or two spots in parking lots, they don't have the funding or approval to install covers like gas stations do. Until we get a designated charging area the size of a gas station, it'll always be an after thought. When the batteries heat up, the charging speed starts to drop to make sure it doesn't get damaged. We didn't wanna wait that long so we plugged in the cooler battery first.
Guess electrical motorcycle are not easily taking off because the clean car rebate was available for cars only. It also seems hard to go to a dealer and buy an electrical bike. At least the serious motorcycles. A lot of smaller ones can be bought but the fun bikes are not that available, yet.
Yeah, it sucks! No high end electric motorcycles have dealers here, and very few shops even want to sell them because they can't support them. Someday, I guess. We're still early adopters all these years later.
I'm watching... ...but I already have an electric motorbike. 😉 Nice to see you on a roadtrip again. I'm getting new tyres in two days... ...and in 11 days this years season beginns. I have a seasonal license plate and can drive from March to October. So I have to pay less insurance and taxes than if I wanted to drive all year round... ...Wait a moment. I don't pay any taxes for my electric motorcycle! In Germany EVs are taxfree for the frist 10 years. 😋
After 6,5 years I'm starting to notice some degradation in my S 100D for the first time, but is is odd when you suddenly notice you have to take an extra charging stop into account when you have a 1200 km trip planned (four stops instead of three). It is such a strange thing to notice how your vehicle suddenly gets less range from a charge. I mean, rationally you know it is bound to happen, but once it becomes reality, it truly is a weird sensation. Especially because it has come relatively suddenly.
Aw maaan, sorry to hear that. Is there a way to see the battery's state of health? How long was the warranty? Is it still covered? I've heard Tesla batteries drop in levels and then plateau for a while instead of a gradual drop like Leafs.. so hopefully you'll be ok for a while.
@@NewZerolandI wouldn't know how to have SoH verified, but it doesn't feel out of spec (15% loss in 6,5 years). It's just that, as you say, it felt like a sudden drop. I'm not that worried, though. The 100D is moving on to a life as a commuter car for my husband (max 70 km/ day I reckon). I have replaced it for myself with a Plaid, but that unfortunately sank through its air springs the day before our road trip started (was a leak in the system). Otherwise we wouldn't even have considered the 100D for the trip.
@@berttroubleyn3475 oh wow! How did the Plaid look lowered? Super cool?? XD I know there's a hidden menu in the new Teslas to check on battery health and all kinds of other stuff, so maybe the older Teslas have that too.
Is the Tesla Superchargers open to other vehicles in NZ yet? That longest name was just a run on sentence, lol. At least you weren't on Zeros with belt drive on that gravel.
@@NewZeroland There's two Supercharger sites in Hamilton and Taupo now plus Taihape is under construction. My guess these are so non teslas can use them. SH1 in the North Island seems pretty sorted now.
Cheers! Haha the car is slowly getting there.. I got it rolling again and I'm talking with a few shops about fabricating mounts for everything. Hopefully I'll have an update soon.
I know it's been done to death on UA-cam, but you should do a quick take on your Model 3 experience so far. It's always good to get a new perspective especially from someone who knows EVs.
@@usmcsaxoki yep, Aus/NZ get their cars from the Tesla factory in Shanghai. I was skeptical at first but the build quality seems to be BETTER for some reason, and they also used LFP cells so the battery should in theory last way longer.
Have you considered finding an EV group in Wellington and seeing if they have days where they go out to show people their vehicles? In Canberra, the AEVA group here runs an "EV Experience Day" every two or three months, where we just go out to a shopping centre parking lot or a park or something and people can come by and ask us questions. I take the bike to those and there are always questions and that inevitable statement "I didn't know there were any electric motorbikes" 😀 Gotta fly the electric flag, eh!
True! That's a great idea. NZ has a Go Green Expo I usually go to, and sometimes the local fairs where EVs meet up to educate people. I love chatting with people about the bikes, but it's hard to sell them on the idea when there aren't any dealers in the country yet.
Apparently Zero is coming back to Australia, which is good because then I'll be able to get parts locally, but their adamant insistence that DC charging is unnecessary means I'll never buy another one. If and when they change their minds I'll be first in line, but until then it's a hard "NOPE!" I had a chance to test ride their new adventure model at Everything Electric Live last weekend, but I would have had to hang around another 2 hours just for that after I'd already seen everything else, and since there was no chance I'd buy one even if it were fantastic to ride it wasn't worth the wait to me.
That's exciting news! I completely understand though. Even if they sort out DC charging, I don't think I'd go back to Zero. The company only seems to care about making more money lol. Everybody is raving about the DSR/X, and there's currently one riding around the world, so it must be good!
I have no problem paying ruc's. Now a "fair tax" would have petrol pay 2 to 3 times more tax to match ev's (equivalent range) and add more tax to all fossils to pay for health and environmental damage.
Same, and well said! I'm fine supporting road maintenance if they actually use it to improve our roads. This whole chip seal "cover it with gravel" method isn't good enough.
@@NewZeroland Have you ever harmed a human or by omission of action, allowed a human to come to harm? Do you have to plug into a socket instead of sleep? Have you ever slipped up and said bleep bleep boop to Jen? 😁
I take it that's a yes then Sam 😂@@NewZeroland Good to see you back on road trips. You'll have to ride that stretch you skipped another time. It could be a great road 😎
You showed the current down of EV use , lack of charging stations. You could have been on a Zero DS for gravel roads.LOL!! With high fuel prices in NZ it makes more sense than in Australia.
Where I live, half the roads are graded dirt. Unless they're horribly corrugated, go for it. As far as spreading the word - sadly most motorcycle riders are very conservative - heck, I have one guy telling me how good drum brakes are ! - but, I enjoy your vids and the info.. Very helpful in considering taking the leap. (I have an EV, a bunch of heat pumps yadda yadda - I'm thinking sooner rather than later.
There are only a few that are open to non-Teslas right now, and none are in my area so I'm not sure if I can use them.. but that would be awesome. Tesla locations have waaay more stations!
You be you Sam, no need to be social. Needing a different app, setting up an account, and even pre-paying a deposit for every damn charger is getting old
Yeah it is!! I'm over it. Imagine if I didn't have a smart phone or didn't have service to download an app. How could I charge my vehicle?? Is this the future we want to live in?
There is absolutely no need for it other than data collection by the charging provider. The charger and vehicle can do all the comms to know how to charge offline, all that is required is payment. Any dumb card reader can do a hold from any contactless card, charging the card the full value at the completion of the charging session. And it worse than stupid with many chargers being in out of the way locations or undercover. No mobile phone reception meaning major hassle to charge@@NewZeroland
So im on to my 4th EV car, but still cant justify an EV bike as I simply dont use it enough for the expense. Im just going to have to slum it on my old BMW a few more years. Which is probably why peopydont realise EV bikes are a thing. The second hand trickle down doesn't exist really yet.
Yeaaah, great point. There isn't much of a used market for them in NZ yet. All good though. Gas bikes are still way better for longer rides like this. It'll take a while for EVs to catch up. 8 years in and I still feel like an early adopter, but we're getting there.
Man, it's great that you're out there enjoying the riding and showing people that there _are_ electric motorbikes - and they charge at DC fast charging stations. DC is the only way to do trips like that - AC would just make it impossible.
Cheers Paul! Yeah even if someone wasn't on a rush trying to do the whole 600km loop in a day like us, I don't think there are any level 2 chargers or even places to stay in that area yet.
I needed this, I'm getting the winter crazies from not being able to go out on my bike, so I must live through you now.
Happy to help! Sorry I haven't been posting much lately. I really need to get back out there again before NZ goes into winter, too!
Dude, I drove down to Miami for a day. It was in the 80s. Then back up here just in time for the snow. lol. I feel ya!
Why is my favorite EV conversion channel posting motorcycle videos?!?
I'm branching out and trying something new XD
@@NewZeroland I don't like change...
@@ZeroFunyou sure about that?
@@SniperSnake50BMG yup. My channel has always been and will always be about electric sailing for instance. Nevermind my profile pic and past hundred videos.
@@ZeroFun And all this time I thought your channel was rap & animal husbandry.
Loved to see the Energicas back on the road trip..! ❤❤
Cheers man! More to come. Summer's not over yet.
Living vicariously through you as we await the coming of spring here in beautiful northeast Indiana. 😁
Ohhh do you guys get a lot of snow? How cold is it there?
Some years we do, some we don't. Haven't gotten a lot this year but it was below 20 F most of January and is finally warming up to upper 30s to 40s now. But we could still get a winter storm through March. @@NewZeroland
I do that loop almost fortnightly. Those roadworks are all to do with the damage caused by Cyclone Gabrielle. When the roads are fixed it will be even better. I'm on an "adventure" bike, so the gravel actually makes things more interesting for me. A couple of weeks ago I was overtaken by a driver that thought it was a rally stage... then they hit a big pothole and popped a tire.
Wow! Yeah I bet 😂 We were definitely on the wrong bikes. I'd love to try it in a WRX.
Awesome, I'm always happy to see your videos pop up. A tip I learnt from another rider and something I do now is to wet a micro fiber cloth with window cleaner and put it in a ziplock bag, now I can clean my visor whenever I need to.
Oh maaan that's a genius tip 😂 Thanks! I'll remember that for next time.
Your personality somehow just is perfectly in tune with the pace of the video and everything. So enjoyable to watch these.
Aw thanks :D Glad ya liked it!
There was a decent earthquake North East of Masterton about 8 years ago. Then the flood damage from Cyclone Gabrielle last year. Beach at Porangahau well worth a visit.
Ahh good to know. Next time I'm up there I'll explore more.
Thanks for sharing, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to heighten the experience of motorcycle-riding with fabulous roads. We're pretty blessed with some good ones in Wellington including two featured in your previous videos, Takarau Gorge Road and Akatarawa Road, and a couple more I'm sure you've already enjoyed, Remutaka Hill and Paekakariki Hill. If anyone knows of verified lists for highly recommended roads to ride in NZ, please share them!
That's a great idea. We need an interactive map with all the fun motorcycling roads here! They could have photos and updates with road conditions. That'd be sweet!
Dude that Hwy 52 looks so much like CA-25 south of Tres Pinos, so good!
My Ribelle arrived today and I already installed The Knob, thanks for that video too. Next is to figure out why it's balancing at 90%… I guess sitting on the sales floor for a year did a number on the pack.
Oooo I've never been on that road! I'll add it to the list for my next trip back. Hmm if it's still under warranty I'd have them check if all the cells are ok. Have you tried fast charging it yet? That could also bring up some issues you'd wanna know about early on. Good luck!
Oh my god. That looks amazing and I'm glad you had a lot of fun!
Thanks so much! It was a blast 😁
Now I realize why the previous owner of my ribelle took off that plastic shroud around the charger. I do love the look as you can see more wires and components. That and I'm not going to bother with getting new parts, heh
Yeah! I actually had to trim mine, but it works now. Definitely cooler looking without it 😂
Also such a beautiful country! Another Great video! ❤
Cheers man!
That looked like a nice trip! (except for the gravel sections), and specially fun on the Eva's.
You know it! The bikes handled it all amazingly, but it woulda been so much nicer on Experias.
@NewZeroland you know what to do then.. life's too short for compromise.. can't beat ltr bikes for fun factor.. will have to check that road out.. have you done the Pahiatua track - Mangamarie - Mangamutu loop back to the Track & PNth.. fit it in some time.. those road works are likely part of the Kaikura quake aftermath !
@@Errol.C-nz yeah! The Pahiatua track is awesome but I haven't tried that road from Mangamaire! Next time I'm up there I'll hit that little loop. I'm tracing all the roads I've been to on a big map of NZ and I still have a ways to go.
As i watch this ( Monday) currently riding from invercargill north right now at kingston - heading for omarama
Nice! Omarama is one place I would have never guessed is pronounced that way 😂
Hehe - lindis pass next
Awesome trip! I wanted to visit that place with that super long name. Unfortunately did not have time for it, but definitely going to happen next year. There is also a space ship/rocket something station where we can see rockets flying :D
Yeah!! They're launching rockets every couple of months, it seems. So cool! That sounds like a great excuse for a road trip.
The gravel thing happened yesterday - great that they resurfacing but the odd one theres no warning on a patch and might *be doing 120k adrenaline is brown
Oh nice!! That's great to know. Scary hahaha
Epic! I’ll be through waipuk on Wednesday for work. The top end of that road didn’t even look like GS territory hahaha. And as to the holes… well I’m not touching that one. Moore Wilson’s fresh orange juice omg. And what happened?? No knee down rimutaka action?? But seriously good fun, looks like kitten speed was used liberally!!
😂😂😂 I do have Remutaka footage, but I'm not sure if I should post it 😳 Are you taking your bike all the way up there??
@@NewZeroland hahaha yeah perhaps that’s best kept undercover footage. No this one is work sadly, so in 4 wheels. I was motorcycle camping up the kaikoura coast over waiting though. Hot and by the ocean. Very nice.
Gentle Annie, taihape to Napier
Great road
Electric bikes and comments: I was helping my daughter out with a pamphlet delivery job the other day, she has a SuperSoCo TC moped which we use, absolutely perfect for curb crawling when you have a lot of mailboxes to get up to, then blast on by the house with No-Circulars or No Advertising signs on the letterboxes. Basically feels like a big mountain bike. Ended up chatting to one home owner for a few minutes about ebikes-emopeds-electric motorcycles etc.
Awesome! SuperSocos are fun. Bang for buck, they're probably the best round-town commuters.
@@NewZeroland Yeah, the StreetDogs seem to have better power to weight and range, but you do pay for that.
Yeah man, after a while all the turns and curves start to feel the same and become monotonous. I’m surrounded by roads like that, and can only take so much of it 😆 sometimes I want a straight desert road with nothing around
Right?? Maybe it's less about the roads and more about the places we're riding through. As long as the scenery stays interesting, that's all I care about.
I'd imagine all that twisting and leaning is a real workout after a while.
keep up the good work mate
Thank you!
Did this road around 2 years ago was absolutely mint from what people have said the cyclone must of taken its toll. Have you done the Gentle Annie from Hastings to Taihape. Its in awesome condition and amazing views of Mount Ruapehu if you start in Hastings.
Yeah! I loved the Gentle Annie. I'm hoping to get up north of Gisborne to explore more as soon as the roads are back to normal.
Gravel sections is how narrow rough back roads turn into smooth wide roads.
Your pronunciation is really good! He pai ki ahau!
Thanks! I'm trying lol.
It's harder than it looks.
Should you ever travel that way again, as you leave Woodville make a left onto Pinfold Road then use Top Grass Road up to Dannevirke. I use it to avoid Dannevirke altogether, though you can Laws Road to drop you into Dannevirke if you need to (from the south).
Oooo thanks! Any new roads, I wanna know about em.
I rode 52 2½years ago and the road from Wembledon Tavern south up to the Weber Rd turn off was a gravel/rock fill fruit fest. Interesting in all that time. Nothing much has changed. Sooo, way before Cyclone Gabrielle.
Oh wow HAHA, the truth comes out. That's good to know. The road was still really fun!
I also cheated and had a conversation with a rural postie who’d just stopped. So I knew what to expect.
South from Webber Rd turnoff on 52 was a treat 🎉
Watch out for sheep and other things on the road 😁
@@DrVulpine yeah I really didn't do my research lol, but drama makes for interesting content!
Great video! Upgrade that suspension to Ohlins forks, and Race Spec Ohlins rear, and the rough road parts will become fun as well. World of difference. Stock suspension is not usuable on roads with bumps. :)
Thanks! I'd love to.. maybe someday when I have more money haha. Ohlins are the ultimate!
If you would like, I have great experiences with my Rockform phone holder case and mount. With my ICE bike it keeps it steady and I have no issues with my phone.
Thanks for the recommendation! I might need to invest in one if I keep doing these long rides and don't want to get lost.
Same here w/ the northern hemisphere winter crazies - a joy to see you sweating while we have to layer up while risking on stone cold tyres & lesser winter temp capacities 😅
Nice tour BTW - really enjoyed that insight into the NZ back country twisties (despite the off-road bits) 🙂
Cheers! Glad ya liked it. Stay warm over there. When you guys get sun, we'll get rain 😭 I'm not ready for summer to go yet!
Yay speed kitten is back 😍🥰😍
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The general rule with road surface quality in NZ is if it's on a dairy lorry route then it's crap, otherwise it's average to poor. I think I already know the answer but if you have an iPhone 6+ then I have a bike phone case and mount I no longer use? Your commentary on charger network maturity and eMoto public awareness could easily have been from one of your episodes 5 years ago! :-) Yes Simon, we all need Experias here ;-) Great to see you guys out clocking up the bends while summer is still with us.
Ain't that the truth! Some things change while so much stays the same. I'm at 8 years riding electric motorcycles and I'm still complaining about the same stuff. That's a problem! Thanks for the phone mount offer but I have a Huawei and getting lost adds to the drama :D
Great ride is coming...
How are you so fast??
@@NewZeroland here in Portugal, 180°, other side of the world we do it faster ah ah ah...
Wow - that was cool, I like change ;) good to see your changing it up bit and going off road. :P, I have a good friend that has just updated his second hand triumph for another second hand triumph, one day the second hand market will compete with electric bikes, and then maybe in the future your friend will go "Why did you bring the gas bike, their are no gas station here!!!". Can't wait. We spread the good news.... :)
So true!! I really hope that's what the future will be like! There's a pretty good used market in the US now, but barely any in New Zealand. There aren't enough electric motorcycles here yet, and nothing high-end like these are sold here. Maybe soon! Thanks for watching :D
My partner and I did that same route about a year ago (opposite direction). The road was just as bad when we did it. NZTA is too busy spending money on lowering speed limits to actually fix the roads.
Haha somebody else mentioned the cyclone being the cause of the bad road conditions, and that makes sense. But I agree. Motorcycle parking is going up to $2.50/hr in Wellington soon. Where's all this money going??
That was so awesome to watch! Very beautiful scenery :D And to get the word out we need a better infrastructure so nay-sayers lose their counter arguments. As long as charging can't be as spontanous as filling up gas, it won't change much. I notice that a lot when I do longer tours and I set my routes from charger to charger but most of the time they're not public, broken or busy so I spent an extra half an hours to look for a free and working charger. Marc showed us that you don't need a charger all the time! Just nice people :)
True that! Charging frustrations make me feel like I'm still an early adopter, even though I've been riding them for 8 years. On long trips like Marc's where you're not in a hurry, a wall outlet at a cafe is the perfect spot! I just wish it was easier. I don't want to download more apps 😂
@@NewZeroland In germany there are some providers which cover around 80-90% of all stations but they cost a bit more than having the individal apps. (ADAC and EnBW for example)
Another great video Sam. Lived at the top of the hill (Pukeora) going into Waipukurau for 2 years. Your video brought back memories for me. Last time I drove Hastings to Wellington via Masterton was September 2019. Lived in NZ for 55 years and didn't know about State Highway 52. Thanks again. I so much enjoyed this video. As for EV and electric motorcycle take up it's NZ that's why. Hopefully things change. I read about EV road user charges. Electric vehicles from April have to pay road tax as well. Take care from Greater London! 😊
Cheers Gary! Have you been north of Napier much? I still haven't been to a lot of those fun-looking roads up there that cut across diagnoally through the East Cape, and really want to get back on the bike and see them.
@@NewZeroland Yes I have travelled north of Napier more times than I can remember. I lived in Gisborne for 3 months in 2004 before moving to Auckland. I lived in the Napier/Hastings area for 50 years approximately.
@@garynarborough oh wow! Any recommendations for places to visit? I saw there's a natural waterslide just north of Gisborne. Parts of those roads look unsealed, but I guess I'm used to that now.
@@NewZeroland Is there another way I can contact you Sam? I'll have a good think and reply soon. Oh the long Maori name you saw, I've tried to pronounce it and it's impossible unless you are a fluent Māori speaker. A lot of the Maori names I can pronounce properly.
@@garynarborough haha yeah the further out you get, the harder those names seem to become. Send me an email at mistasam@gmail.com
Hope you meet up with Marc when he gets to NZ!
Me too! That would be so cool.
Nice. I knew there had to be some roads you hadn’t ridden yet. Beautiful trip as usual. How was the power consumption for the gravel roads? Does crawling preserve battery?
Oh yeah going slow like that shows a range estimate on the dash of 500km sometimes. It helped, but we were going way too fast for it to balance out.
I bet it handled the gravelly road better than the Ego though. Still a heavy bike but better than it was before.
You should definitely come to the netherlands. The Fastned chargers here nearly all have shade from the solar panels they use.
You guys are in the future!
@@NewZerolandalso, you wouldn't believe the amount of dcfc stations here. On the 25 km ride to work, I pass like 20 or something.
@@NewZeroland Yeah, so much so that fast charging here is at least €0,62/kwh. AC power is around €0,35. I have no idea how much NZkiwi's that is though.
@@ikkieman it's exactly the same price, but in NZD so slightly cheaper. Still jealous haha.
@@NewZerolandwell get over here then. It'd be lovely to host you and I'm sure the dealer over here will have a energica ready for you to use
What do you mean "this video is getting too long"?!?! Your road trip videos are awesome and I wanted MORE!!! 🙂
OOH, a road trip vid, always fun to watch! Smart move to stagger charge rather than waiting for both stations to be available. I wonder if that super smooth road was brand new, It seemed almost too perfect. That place with the long name feels like they're trolling people, They might as well have called it "Areallylongwordjustsowecanlaughatpeoplewhotrytosayit." If you want electric motorcycles to be more visible maybe you need to start a motorcycle club... you could call yourselves "Silent Thunder" the quietest biker gang ever.
Haha EMC! If there are patches, I'm sure people will join. We can all park at gas stations and block the pumps so people know we mean business.
@@NewZeroland HARDCORE!
Roadtrip!! ⚡️💨 ❤️
Just a thought. NZTA Journey Planner normally gives better details on roads than Google.
Oooo I'll check that out. I had no idea that was a thing.
Too much windy road? Where I live that's all you get. There is no straight road, open views option. I really miss it sometimes. I wanna hammer along like the bikes in Mad Max.
I highly recommend the quad lock phone mount for bikes. They are pricey though.
Too true man! And yeah I love quadlocks. Now that they make universal sticky mounts, I might finally be able to use my weird Huawei phone!
Can i recommend peak design phone case and mount? It’s so much better than every other one
Better than QuadLock??
@@NewZeroland for sure, the case is so much lighter and thin, the locking doesn’t wear over time, and the case can have a finger loop if you want. Also there’s a motorcycle one with dampening or you can do you a mtb mount too.
Also still works with wireless charging
Well, your videos have made it to Denmark, so somebody is watching. Oh, and on that note: Dannevirke was a series of fortified defense lines between Denmark and Germany in the Viking Age. Surest there’s a connection, since you saw vikings. Immigrants, I guess. Well, keep up the good work. Love to watch your content. 😊
Thanks man! Yeah, definitely related. Even New Zealand gets its name from Zeeland in the Netherlands. Maybe people came over and named these towns after their home towns. That's really interesting. Thanks for the info!
What a fun & adventurous road trip Sam!
Isn’t crazy that they don’t provide shelter with solar panels to at least charge mobile phones or the like?
Do you need to wait a while for the battery to cool before charging? I just don’t get it why the EV infrastructure is so slow to develop when the uptake is increasing? It’s got be frustrating?
Cheers for sharing your thoughts.
Cheers man! I know.. it's crazy. I guess because EV charging stations are usually just in one or two spots in parking lots, they don't have the funding or approval to install covers like gas stations do. Until we get a designated charging area the size of a gas station, it'll always be an after thought. When the batteries heat up, the charging speed starts to drop to make sure it doesn't get damaged. We didn't wanna wait that long so we plugged in the cooler battery first.
Guess electrical motorcycle are not easily taking off because the clean car rebate was available for cars only. It also seems hard to go to a dealer and buy an electrical bike. At least the serious motorcycles. A lot of smaller ones can be bought but the fun bikes are not that available, yet.
Yeah, it sucks! No high end electric motorcycles have dealers here, and very few shops even want to sell them because they can't support them. Someday, I guess. We're still early adopters all these years later.
Heck yeah Cuz!
yea dude. even the harley dealers in thailand. i tell them about their livewire and they're like "what's that?"
Daaamn 😥 Livewires have been out for YEARS!
I'm watching...
...but I already have an electric motorbike.
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Nice to see you on a roadtrip again.
I'm getting new tyres in two days...
...and in 11 days this years season beginns.
I have a seasonal license plate and can drive from March to October. So I have to pay less insurance and taxes than if I wanted to drive all year round...
...Wait a moment. I don't pay any taxes for my electric motorcycle!
In Germany EVs are taxfree for the frist 10 years.
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10 years! Wow, I'm so jealous!! That's a great incentive to go electric. Do you have any long trips planned for this year?
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Nothing concrete yet but I'll definitely take a few days again and look for nice routes...
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Choice !! People won't know if they don't look :( Keep up the great work !
Cheers bro! People will know about them soon... when electric starts winning races!!
After 6,5 years I'm starting to notice some degradation in my S 100D for the first time, but is is odd when you suddenly notice you have to take an extra charging stop into account when you have a 1200 km trip planned (four stops instead of three). It is such a strange thing to notice how your vehicle suddenly gets less range from a charge. I mean, rationally you know it is bound to happen, but once it becomes reality, it truly is a weird sensation. Especially because it has come relatively suddenly.
Aw maaan, sorry to hear that. Is there a way to see the battery's state of health? How long was the warranty? Is it still covered? I've heard Tesla batteries drop in levels and then plateau for a while instead of a gradual drop like Leafs.. so hopefully you'll be ok for a while.
@@NewZerolandI wouldn't know how to have SoH verified, but it doesn't feel out of spec (15% loss in 6,5 years). It's just that, as you say, it felt like a sudden drop. I'm not that worried, though. The 100D is moving on to a life as a commuter car for my husband (max 70 km/ day I reckon).
I have replaced it for myself with a Plaid, but that unfortunately sank through its air springs the day before our road trip started (was a leak in the system). Otherwise we wouldn't even have considered the 100D for the trip.
@@berttroubleyn3475 oh wow! How did the Plaid look lowered? Super cool?? XD I know there's a hidden menu in the new Teslas to check on battery health and all kinds of other stuff, so maybe the older Teslas have that too.
@@NewZeroland I've e-mailed you a picture of my 'lowered' Model S.
Is the Tesla Superchargers open to other vehicles in NZ yet? That longest name was just a run on sentence, lol. At least you weren't on Zeros with belt drive on that gravel.
A few of them are.. I think one in Auckland is open as a test, but most aren't yet.
@@NewZeroland There's two Supercharger sites in Hamilton and Taupo now plus Taihape is under construction. My guess these are so non teslas can use them. SH1 in the North Island seems pretty sorted now.
Some locations are.
Big plugs and tinny holes..😂 Of course that's not what you meant🤣😂😅..You don't disappoint bro. Great video.. How is the car coming along?
Cheers! Haha the car is slowly getting there.. I got it rolling again and I'm talking with a few shops about fabricating mounts for everything. Hopefully I'll have an update soon.
I know it's been done to death on UA-cam, but you should do a quick take on your Model 3 experience so far. It's always good to get a new perspective especially from someone who knows EVs.
Good idea! We've had it about 2.5 years now so it might be time for a review 😁 American drives Tesla from China in New Zealand lol
Didn't know yours was made in China. @@NewZeroland
@@usmcsaxoki yep, Aus/NZ get their cars from the Tesla factory in Shanghai. I was skeptical at first but the build quality seems to be BETTER for some reason, and they also used LFP cells so the battery should in theory last way longer.
Have you considered finding an EV group in Wellington and seeing if they have days where they go out to show people their vehicles? In Canberra, the AEVA group here runs an "EV Experience Day" every two or three months, where we just go out to a shopping centre parking lot or a park or something and people can come by and ask us questions. I take the bike to those and there are always questions and that inevitable statement "I didn't know there were any electric motorbikes" 😀 Gotta fly the electric flag, eh!
True! That's a great idea. NZ has a Go Green Expo I usually go to, and sometimes the local fairs where EVs meet up to educate people. I love chatting with people about the bikes, but it's hard to sell them on the idea when there aren't any dealers in the country yet.
Apparently Zero is coming back to Australia, which is good because then I'll be able to get parts locally, but their adamant insistence that DC charging is unnecessary means I'll never buy another one. If and when they change their minds I'll be first in line, but until then it's a hard "NOPE!"
I had a chance to test ride their new adventure model at Everything Electric Live last weekend, but I would have had to hang around another 2 hours just for that after I'd already seen everything else, and since there was no chance I'd buy one even if it were fantastic to ride it wasn't worth the wait to me.
That's exciting news! I completely understand though. Even if they sort out DC charging, I don't think I'd go back to Zero. The company only seems to care about making more money lol. Everybody is raving about the DSR/X, and there's currently one riding around the world, so it must be good!
@@NewZeroland Does that DSR/X riding around the world have a YT channel?
@@RPRosen-ki2fk Yep!
www.youtube.com/@e.roundworld/featured
@@NewZerolandThanks Sam. I look forward to following his trip, though it appears he's already completed it and is just now releasing the videos.
ahhah "be more social, nah" haahah feel that!
Haha uploading stuff on youtube is as social as I'll get.
Looks like its time to get an adventure bike and come ride with me 😏
Oh and your RUC joke 😂😅😂
You might be right man. Experias for all!!
I have no problem paying ruc's. Now a "fair tax" would have petrol pay 2 to 3 times more tax to match ev's (equivalent range) and add more tax to all fossils to pay for health and environmental damage.
Same, and well said! I'm fine supporting road maintenance if they actually use it to improve our roads. This whole chip seal "cover it with gravel" method isn't good enough.
"The plugs are too big and my holes are too small.." Are you a robot Sam? 😂
What's the best way to find out? O_O
@@NewZeroland Have you ever harmed a human or by omission of action, allowed a human to come to harm?
Do you have to plug into a socket instead of sleep?
Have you ever slipped up and said bleep bleep boop to Jen? 😁
@@andrewmorgan1819 oh god 🤖
I take it that's a yes then Sam 😂@@NewZeroland
Good to see you back on road trips. You'll have to ride that stretch you skipped another time. It could be a great road 😎
Cool gag with Marc's lack of reverse gear.
It's a shame that the Energica company has now gone into reverse gear.
Is there any hope for a successor?
I won’t own one, but I do love watching the adventures riders have with their machines. Cool stuff. Ride safe. Cheers. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Cheers! Glad ya liked it 😁
You showed the current down of EV use , lack of charging stations. You could have been on a Zero DS for gravel roads.LOL!! With high fuel prices in NZ it makes more sense than in Australia.
Nah I'd need an Experia 😂 The Zero's belt would snap and it wouldn't have enough range to make it.
Where I live, half the roads are graded dirt. Unless they're horribly corrugated, go for it.
As far as spreading the word - sadly most motorcycle riders are very conservative - heck, I have one guy telling me how good drum brakes are ! - but, I enjoy your vids and the info.. Very helpful in considering taking the leap. (I have an EV, a bunch of heat pumps yadda yadda - I'm thinking sooner rather than later.
@@anxiousappliance awesome! Thanks for your input. The transition will be long but we'll get there eventually.
Need more Beat content
I knooooow! I'm taking it to a shop on Friday to get their advice on fabricating mounts. Soon.. very soon.
Is Tesla gunna allow Electric motorcycles to use their superchargers in NZ? Because that would be a game changer.
There are only a few that are open to non-Teslas right now, and none are in my area so I'm not sure if I can use them.. but that would be awesome. Tesla locations have waaay more stations!
Plugs are too big but my hole is too small..! 😂😂
😂 such a problem to have
All EV charging stations should be shaded... by solar panels... 🤔🤷🏼♂️
RIGHT?!
You be you Sam, no need to be social.
Needing a different app, setting up an account, and even pre-paying a deposit for every damn charger is getting old
Yeah it is!! I'm over it. Imagine if I didn't have a smart phone or didn't have service to download an app. How could I charge my vehicle?? Is this the future we want to live in?
There is absolutely no need for it other than data collection by the charging provider. The charger and vehicle can do all the comms to know how to charge offline, all that is required is payment. Any dumb card reader can do a hold from any contactless card, charging the card the full value at the completion of the charging session. And it worse than stupid with many chargers being in out of the way locations or undercover. No mobile phone reception meaning major hassle to charge@@NewZeroland
EV ROADTRIP!
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I laughed at the reverse dig. Someday a supporter will buy Marc reverse and he'll kick himself ... for not getting it sooner.
I'm surprised he hasn't used some patreon money to buy it already! Then again, $200USD can buy a lot of AirBnBs in India.
So im on to my 4th EV car, but still cant justify an EV bike as I simply dont use it enough for the expense. Im just going to have to slum it on my old BMW a few more years. Which is probably why peopydont realise EV bikes are a thing. The second hand trickle down doesn't exist really yet.
Yeaaah, great point. There isn't much of a used market for them in NZ yet. All good though. Gas bikes are still way better for longer rides like this. It'll take a while for EVs to catch up. 8 years in and I still feel like an early adopter, but we're getting there.