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"Memory usage" is high on both because of disk caching. Htop shows actual program memory usage. Arch distros use a little bit of spare memory that gets cleared up if a program actually needs it, to make disks run faster.
Htop's memory reporting is more reliable because it doesn't report the memory being borrowed by disk caching (that again, gets given up by the system if a program actually needed that memory)
IIRC Garuda actually say/said "we try to use as much memory as we can" because memory is one of the few resources which actually is being wasted if not used. It's way more surprising to be that distros don't have more advanced precaching algorithms to precache as much as possible honestly.
I've been using Manjaro for nearly 2 years at this point. It's the only distro that worked for me. Every Debian based distro I tried broke within a day or two after install. The most overlooked feature of Manjaro is the extensive forum.
Very interesting, I had the total opposite experience. I had so many issues with Manjaro, broke my system 3 times as well with even just normal regular usage. Maybe it has changed, but the community and forums back then were also very unfriendly and in some cases borderline toxic. This was about 7 years ago or so, so things might have changed, but I can't help having a bad aftertaste.
Been wanting to switch from Windows for a while, your video helped me settle on Manjaro, dont regret the switch a single bit (actually been a lot of fun struggling with learning Linux somehow). Thanks a lot.
Why people still worry about memory usage of OS. Mem is cheap, my 14 yrs old WS has 16GB from day 1. My EOS never uses more than 8G unless I get a run out process or mesa-git build.
Correct me here if im wrong. After reviewing a few videos and using Manjaro for a couple of years of and on i think i have a solution for me at least. If you want to stay on the stable branch do not use the AUR. I have been on stable with flatpaks and everything has been working fine. If you want to use a lot of the AUR its suggested to switch to the 'testing' branch as it gets updates faster and may fix any AUR problems quicker.
Garuda. Well, AFTER you remove its god awful theming. Seriously I love me some Garudabut that themeing just *_kills_* my eyes. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a version of Garuda with all of the associated utils without that theming. Next install I do though I'm going to try konsave.
endeavor os with bauh package manager is better. alot less extra junk and no installs out of the box. start endeavour open terminal type yay -S bauh then install flatpak and restart. now you have bauh which is pretty much a shop that will find install your files without the terminal. also you get to choose many desktop environments on install. overall less memory use faster install no updates needed right away you can be up and going in 5 minutes
@@TheLinuxITGuy after testing manjaro, i can say it does install faster, i have less things to install like flatpak on manjaro and i can delete many programs in a single click. this would make manjaro the winner but, one issue i found is because some terminal commands are different from arch i had issues getting certain programs or commands to work since there is also pamac terminal commands i know nothing about. manjaro seems faster to set up but endeavour has less issues on setting up certain programs with pacman. all this aside both are great. manjaro is fast and comes with tweaks and things endevour doesnt but at the same time endeavour might have less issues with specific programs. its a hard call. if you mostly use it for retro gaming manjaro installs quicker and using flatpak both feel the same. for music production or wine using progams maybe endeavour. its really a hard call
how are you running both of these at the same time and recording and everything? could you explain how you put this video together? i dont see boxes or virtual machine and i also dont see recording software like obs. how did you do this? its a cool concept. at first i thought maybe both are prerecorded seperate or something but then you litterally moved from one os to the other on the same screen and now im interested in your process
Agree. Why go with modifications with in my experience don't really add to much and has a greater potential of breaking, when vanilla arch with arch-install is about as easy to get going.
I agree, but it is nice having someone carrying my ass to save me time. I can ask people when I have trouble in forums and get nice people help me, rather than "rtfm"ing me.
Manjaro is objectively better, I refuse to waste more than 30 seconds trying to set up things that should be working already on any clean OS install, there’s no point. I just don’t care anymore.
Manjaro app manager (Pamac) is horrible. Just really bad design flaws in the process flow. Not sure why anyone would use a GUI package manager anyway when something like Paru or Yay are available. Easy and faster.
I had been using Manjaro for almost 8 months. This week it started failing: Problems between dependences, Games went buged. But it was a good OS while I used it, yesterday I installed EndeavourOs to try something different.
@@fishinthejar its have been going quite good. Problems with dependencies disappeared, I've not tried to much games so i can't compare in that regard.
Me gustan los retos, he probado Manjaro es increible pero al pasarme a EndeavourOS es dificil pero eso me gusta y tiene algo unico es su documentacion, Prefiero EndeavourOS
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EndeavourOS. Every day.
It's too bleeding edge...
"Memory usage" is high on both because of disk caching. Htop shows actual program memory usage. Arch distros use a little bit of spare memory that gets cleared up if a program actually needs it, to make disks run faster.
Htop's memory reporting is more reliable because it doesn't report the memory being borrowed by disk caching (that again, gets given up by the system if a program actually needed that memory)
Thanks for the info and thanks for watching.
IIRC Garuda actually say/said "we try to use as much memory as we can" because memory is one of the few resources which actually is being wasted if not used. It's way more surprising to be that distros don't have more advanced precaching algorithms to precache as much as possible honestly.
I've been using Manjaro for nearly 2 years at this point. It's the only distro that worked for me. Every Debian based distro I tried broke within a day or two after install. The most overlooked feature of Manjaro is the extensive forum.
Glad you found a distro where you’ve had success. Thanks for sharing.
Very interesting, I had the total opposite experience.
I had so many issues with Manjaro, broke my system 3 times as well with even just normal regular usage.
Maybe it has changed, but the community and forums back then were also very unfriendly and in some cases borderline toxic. This was about 7 years ago or so, so things might have changed, but I can't help having a bad aftertaste.
Manjaro Kde at home on 3 computers👍🏼
Nice!
Been wanting to switch from Windows for a while, your video helped me settle on Manjaro, dont regret the switch a single bit (actually been a lot of fun struggling with learning Linux somehow).
Thanks a lot.
Great to hear! Welcome to linux.
Why people still worry about memory usage of OS. Mem is cheap, my 14 yrs old WS has 16GB from day 1. My EOS never uses more than 8G unless I get a run out process or mesa-git build.
Thanks for watching.
memory its not cheap in Argentina.
I prefer Manjaro, is way more easier to use out of the box.
Thanks for watching.
I use EndeavourOS every day - it's just great.
thanks for the video :)
Nice! Thanks for watching.
EndeavourOS is real Arch because it uses the original Arch repo.
Correct me here if im wrong. After reviewing a few videos and using Manjaro for a couple of years of and on i think i have a solution for me at least. If you want to stay on the stable branch do not use the AUR. I have been on stable with flatpaks and everything has been working fine. If you want to use a lot of the AUR its suggested to switch to the 'testing' branch as it gets updates faster and may fix any AUR problems quicker.
AUR is community driven. Using flatpaks, you can verify the publisher of the package. Hope that helps.
Garuda. Well, AFTER you remove its god awful theming. Seriously I love me some Garudabut that themeing just *_kills_* my eyes. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a version of Garuda with all of the associated utils without that theming. Next install I do though I'm going to try konsave.
Yea, it's very neon looking. Thanks for watching.
endeavor os with bauh package manager is better. alot less extra junk and no installs out of the box. start endeavour open terminal type yay -S bauh then install flatpak and restart. now you have bauh which is pretty much a shop that will find install your files without the terminal. also you get to choose many desktop environments on install. overall less memory use faster install no updates needed right away you can be up and going in 5 minutes
Nice! I’m going to check this out. Thanks for sharing.
@@TheLinuxITGuy after testing manjaro, i can say it does install faster, i have less things to install like flatpak on manjaro and i can delete many programs in a single click. this would make manjaro the winner but, one issue i found is because some terminal commands are different from arch i had issues getting certain programs or commands to work since there is also pamac terminal commands i know nothing about. manjaro seems faster to set up but endeavour has less issues on setting up certain programs with pacman. all this aside both are great. manjaro is fast and comes with tweaks and things endevour doesnt but at the same time endeavour might have less issues with specific programs. its a hard call. if you mostly use it for retro gaming manjaro installs quicker and using flatpak both feel the same. for music production or wine using progams maybe endeavour. its really a hard call
EndeavourOS is awesome
how are you running both of these at the same time and recording and everything? could you explain how you put this video together? i dont see boxes or virtual machine and i also dont see recording software like obs. how did you do this? its a cool concept. at first i thought maybe both are prerecorded seperate or something but then you litterally moved from one os to the other on the same screen and now im interested in your process
Like Manjaro styling but don't use AUR for fear of breakage with it.. With Endeavor OS it's AUR - which is so right.
Knowledge is power. Thank you for the information.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
I feel like one of the only arch users that uses 0 aur packages, prefer using pacman packages
More secure for sure.
I have, and still use both, but I find Endeavour OS closer to 'real' Arch, so as I rebuild systems, I'm moving more of them to Endeavour.
Thanks for sharing and watching.
EOS Moo-ha-ha Kernel.
Good vid. I like the side-by-side format.
EndeavourOS on my desktop as well as my Surface Pro 6
Manjaro is still relevant? Interesting.
Best comparision ever!
And you're using VM how did you make it fullscreen?
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Manjaro? It's not very stable
Thanks for watching.
I'd trust Manjaro over Ubuntu or any of its forks, and I don't even particularly care for Manjaro. pamac-all is goated though.
If you update your system regularly, you will never, ever have problems.
I had problems only on a machine I have updated after a year, nothing too difficult to repair (using pacman from a USB drive live image)
@@JonitoFischer oh, that's for proper Arch-based distros. AUR apps don't work well on Manjaro
vanilla arch is best
Agree. Why go with modifications with in my experience don't really add to much and has a greater potential of breaking, when vanilla arch with arch-install is about as easy to get going.
@@gunalxdont you think there is a reason this distros are popular? They save a lot of time
i don't want a 1970 dos terminal without copy paste without internet gui browser for help with shitty default tiny font to install linux.
I agree, but it is nice having someone carrying my ass to save me time. I can ask people when I have trouble in forums and get nice people help me, rather than "rtfm"ing me.
Do you do reviews or will you be getting into totorials someday?
Check out the Rocky Linux video. Looking to do this for other distros.
Manjaro is objectively better, I refuse to waste more than 30 seconds trying to set up things that should be working already on any clean OS install, there’s no point. I just don’t care anymore.
Just did a fresh Arch install. It's come a loooong way with the "archinstall" command. Silky smooth. Might have to do the next video on that actually.
Could u compare EndeavourOS with CachyOS
That sounds like a good one. I'll add it to the list. Thanks.
love you man you are awesome
Thanks so much.
EndeavourOS has no app store and is terminal-focused, making it much harder to use. I would definitely vote for Manjaro.
Manjaro app manager (Pamac) is horrible. Just really bad design flaws in the process flow. Not sure why anyone would use a GUI package manager anyway when something like Paru or Yay are available. Easy and faster.
I had been using Manjaro for almost 8 months.
This week it started failing: Problems between dependences, Games went buged. But it was a good OS while I used it, yesterday I installed EndeavourOs to try something different.
You’ll have to let me know how you like Endeavour. Thanks for watching.
how is your experience thus far?
@@fishinthejar its have been going quite good. Problems with dependencies disappeared, I've not tried to much games so i can't compare in that regard.
Low amount of tasks are loaded, compared to others, and with that low amount of resources used. Nice.
Thanks for watching.
Me gustan los retos, he probado Manjaro es increible pero al pasarme a EndeavourOS es dificil pero eso me gusta y tiene algo unico es su documentacion, Prefiero EndeavourOS
Yea, Endeavour’s forums are very nice.
Pop OS 😅
Not Arch based.