The Player Of The Year Nominees Are Totally WRONG?!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Arsenal and Manchester City each have two nominations to the Player Of The Year award but Rodri being left out doesn't feel right and similarly at Arsenal Ben White and Gabriel have both been ignored. Saying that the nominated players are all excellent-Van Dijk, Foden, Watkins, Palmer, Rice, Odegaard, Isak and Haaland have all being acknowledged so who do you think will win Player Of The Year 2024?
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People who don’t rate Odegaard show they don’t understand football, guys a genius
Spot on. Odegaard is a better player than Foden. Maybe not had as good a season as Foden. But Odegaard is the second best player in the prem behind KDB. IMO
More one footed than an amputee
he is good but nothing special tbh
Ødegaard runs that Arsenal team
Links everything
Odegaard is average amongst the elite and went missing for 6 months - Trippier created more chances
WTF are they talking about ?
As an arsenal fan Rice was amazing for us , but ødegaard is our best player by far
Why is Van Dijk in the nominations??? Saliba and Gabriel are levels clear this season
Van Dijk has dominated all stats for a defender by a huge margin. Saliba and Gabriel has been a great partnership, while VVD has played with a multitude of partners throughout the season.
He might have good stats but he’s messed up at some very crucial moments hasn’t he
@@janniknielsen9292 it’s only because Liverpool prefer to play end to end football and arsenal are cautious.
@@janniknielsen9292 thank god we have eyes
Arsenal are better defensively set up than Liverpool there's no doubt about it but as an individual centre back VVD clears both of them
Van Dijk hasn't had a consistent centre back partner all season (Matip ACL, Konate picked up injuries, Gomez has played across the backline because our fullbacks have constantly been injured and Quansah was playing in League One this time last year) in a team that also doesn't have a world class holding midfielder in front of them
Meanwhile Saliba and Gabriel haven't missed a game for Arsenal because of injury all season, not to mention the fact Arsenal have a world class cdm in Declan Rice and have a more defensive fullback in Ben White while Arteta uses a more defensive style of play than Klopp in general
I do believe that either Saliba or Gabriel were robbed but that was because Odegaard had a horrible first half of the season and he shouldn't have been nominated
“Does Ollie Watkins deserve to be here?” … is that some kind of sick joke? 😂
Rory has a very elitist way of thinking when it comes to this..I think he believes Man United, Arsenal Liverpool and Chelsea are the only teams that exist. He recently said in a video that Aguero isn't in the "Top 10 PL forwards of all time"
@@mrhussain9008earlier in the season he said Ollie Watkins is everything he wants Nicolas Jackson to be
Literally if there’s someone to take out it would be Palmer. His team is struggling to stay in the top half and all his goals are penalties
@@isaacthegrreat nah Palmer deserves the nomination, it’s his first season as a starter in the PL and he’s playing in a team that have struggled since Chelsea were taken over by Boehly (yes they’re starting to click now but they were absolutely dreadful for ages). Palmer shouldn’t win the POTS, but the nomination is fair.
@@mrhussain9008it’s because he grew up in the 90s so he holds the players from that generation with higher esteem.
Not a single mention of Rodri in the video nor in these comments just proves that he is the most underrated player not only in the premier league but also in the world. It's literally 71 games without losing in a row with Rodri on the team, let that sink in.
Tbf city would of lost way more games in that time if they didn’t have the refs in their pocket
I think this stands with their point of excellence becoming normalised. You expect Rodri levels from Rodri so it is easy to overlook.
Also, unless you are a flarey player in City's system your greatness is attributed more to the system than you as the individual.
Did you turn off before the end? They did mention him
I'm an Arsenal fan but he's the best player in the world from me, unbelievable.
I’m a United fan I was in utter shock when they talked about how bad the nominees were then didn’t mention Rodri
The biggest travesty is rodri omission
The Watkins disrespect is unbelievable. Guy is clearly POTY
31 Non Pen G/A. 7 ahead of anyone else
In both the race for the golden boot whilst also leading the playmaker of the year award
Taking Aston Villa into their first champions league finish in donkeys years
non penalty g/a per 90 :
Haaland - 0.94
Watkins - 0.91
Haaland wins the golden boot, most g/a in the league, 2nd PL title.
@@TP-pq9xx haalnd is not winning the league lol
@@skinnysmallshe will
@@TP-pq9xx Watkins is doing it In a worse team with less service and has been more clinical, whilst also getting Villa into UCL. Thats more impressive imo.
Think both being mostly disregarded by these two is crazy to
I mean its very clear to see u watch no teams outside the “big 6” this was insufferable like dreadful. What i was hearing does ollie watkins deserve? Yeah no dont put the person with the most Goal contributions in the league in leading the line for a team having a remarkable season.
Rice isn’t a bargain. He is value for money. This is the impact a 100 million signing should make. We have been so accustomed to failures like Antony it’s skewed the market.
A hundred million for the community shield world cup is not value for money.
no but the pressure a big signing like that has aswell, he absolutely deserves so much praise after how good he has been. He could have been a few gears lower this year and people would have still said he’s been good, but he’s been unreal
So to back your point.....if failures are the norm for high fees and then you get a very rare success....it is a bargain....
Players sold for £100m or over....
Mbappe
Ronaldo
Neymar
Rice
Coutinho
Dembele
Pogba
Griezmann
Caicedo
Grealish
Felix
Lukaku
Bellingham
Hazard
Kane
Only 3 have won the league and one of those is Grealish who has been lacklustre, Mbappe in farmers league and Bellingham who is value
@@MovementMagazineLtd Only one is being overhyped for winni g the community shield.
@@Tebohomotitimi he won it in his first game 9 months ago....the fuck are you trying to prove here....he is currently top of the Premier league ahead of the greatest team in Premier league history....he also won said Community shield against said team and hasn't lost in 3 games against them....in that 9 months
Terrible flex brahhhh
I would like to see Ollie Watkins get it because Villa getting 4th is an incredible achievement and Watkins has been the central figure. I think Foden and Odegaard have been the two standout players though.
important thing to note with Watkins is he has 19 goals and 12 assists. But not a single penalty in that. All 19 goals have been from open play which just goes to show that Watkins is not just a goalscorer but a key creator in Villa's attack. Watkins is up there because his overall game is top class.
Crikey guys!!! Take a look at Saka’s all round performance, he is an all phases winger, just take a look at his defensive stats he obliterates all other wingers. You have to remember what Saka is asked to do in this Arsenal side. Saka is the best all phases winger in the world
These guys are casuals. Surface level analysis. Typical.
Arsenal's whole team is fantastic off out of position. Havertz and Jesus are somehow defensive strikers
@@Kate-ms2mn totally, but Saka is also putting up Ronaldo and Rooney numbers at this age and is also miles better than another winger defensively. He is in the best all phases winger in Europe probably the world
It's their job to talk about football and they've said John stones has been better than vvd this season. Vvd has been very very good and has some of the best stats for a CB, but also John stones has only played 16 league games so they definitely haven't been paying attention cuz stones don't even play.
Ades being a bit ridiculous saying that Saka’s numbers aren’t anything special when they’re literally better than Foden’s
Saka’s g/a per 90 without penalties is barely above Rodri’s. Rodri who isn’t a nominee.
@@TP-pq9xxhe’s an Arsenal fan don’t expect him to use his head
@@TP-pq9xx that’s false, and also still doesn’t change that Saka has more goal contributions than “best player in the league, Phil Foden”. I love how city fans are saying Saka’s goals don’t count cos he’s scored penalties and tap ins, but were saying haaland deserved the balon dor for scoring 40 tap ins.
Saka is the only player in the league that’s top 10 in goal involvements, big chances created, key passes, and has the most expected assists in the league.
@@Mhollette What is false?
non penalty g/a per 90 :
Foden - 0.83 (midfielder)
Saka - 0.60 ((forward)
Rodri - 0.54 (defensive midfielder)
@@TP-pq9xx Foden plays as a forward too. You’re being incredibly dishonest. Penalties are still goals. Do you expect him to just miss them?
‘Salahs had an awful season’ 😂😂 why is everyone reactionary
Exactly utter ridiculous, he hasn’t recovered from being injured with Egypt, but awful season is ridiculous 🤦🏾♂️
Three weeks ago Van Dijk would have been favourite to win this, or very close to it.
Now they’re talking as though he is extremely luckily to even be nominated.
Please don’t discredit Foden because you hate CITY! Foden has had to work hard to remain in that team that asks for nothing less than perfection you could say there was little to no pressure for Cole Palmer to perform because Chelsea Fans were not convinced in the beginning.
He’s not a bargain, he’s just the only one to live up to the 100 million value.
as an arsenal fan the saka shout is wank imo.
The noms for arsenal are Rice, Odegaard, Saliba. Gabriel could as well.
Saka has been so nonexistent in so many matches and disappeared in SO many big games there’s no way i could legitimately put him in those talks.
Rory I want to bring an important discussion to you.! We should stop GA as a measuring tool. We should have a new “Games impacted” metric. Player scoring 1 goal in 3 diff games >>>>>>> Player scoring 3 goals in 1 game. Hope you see this Rory.
Fully agree
To say newcastle have had an awful season is bonkers considering we've had the worst injury crisis of any team in the league for the last 20 years.
we've had 2 goalkeepers and a bunch of academy players on the bench for more than half the season, Tonali banned, Botman out for 10 months now, and we're 6th and probably gonna finish 5th above spurs.
The Isak to Arsenal thing is just lazy too, its not going to happen because arsenal can't afford him, he'd cost them £150 mil plus.
Rice is the reason they might win the league, but Odegaard is the reason Arsenal is even in the conversation. These guys are clueless.
Cole Palmer has about 18 pens. He’s a half decent number 10 that’s been given a free pass to play anywhere he wants. Decent but not great
18 pens? Totally wrong...
You clearly haven’t watched him play
Why is everyone saying Cole Palmer is 20, he is 22 ffs
It’s not Saka that’s missing, it’s GABRIEL OR SALIBA! Outrageous 😂
No Saka is simply shameful and a disgusting omission.
While i LOVE Rice, these 2 really dont know Arsenal enough. Odegaard is the beating heart of this team. Hes no. 1 in Shot Creating Actions in the league. AND begins and coordinates Arsenal's press. He's arsenal's all phases midfielder. He's the captain Arsenal wants.
The fact that rodri isn't in this conversation but rice is clear favorites is laughable, the guy hasn't lost in 48 games. Even G/A he is better then rice which people complement rice for improving but discredit rodri.
A travesty if the player with the most goal contributions wins it? What an insane perspective, especially when Palmer has almost half his goals from the spot. The Watkins disrespect is such a bizarre phenomenon.
The comment about Ollie Watkins deserving to be nominated is an absolute joke. As of May 13th - 31 goal contributions (19G, 12A), all goals from open play. Palmer has the same goal contributions - but 9 goals are from penalties and everyone thinks he's had a better season than Watkins.
Saliba, Gabriel, Rodri, Foden, Odegaard, Palmer, Rice, Watkins. That should’ve been the shortlist. Winner should be Rice, Palmer or Watkins imo. Each have been so crucial to their team where without their involvement you’d see their teams at completely different ends of the table.
Van disney shouldn’t be there ahead of the arsenal CBs
Van Dijk has had 2nd choice keeper behind him for half the season. 5th choice CB playing left back for half the season, constantly switching between 3rd and 4th choice CB next to him for the entire season, Right back out for 3 months, DM in front of him constantly changing.
And despite all that, he still has by far the best individual stats for a defender in Europe this season
The 'Liverpool Bad' agenda really gives people careers doesn't it?
I don’t understand how you’re raising Palmer on a pedestal but not talking about Watkins the same way
I don't think Rice deserves to be in there,the lad played good football in the second half of the season,let's look at his performance in his first half of the season
English bias no way Rice should be in there ahead of Rodri
This is just daft Declan had been excellent from the word go
He’s performed at an Average 8/10 throughout the entire season. I don’t think you were watching him at the start
@@hartzldn I’ve watched him all season he and Rodri have been by a mile the best number 6’s of the business
@@hartzldn btw since when is 8/10 every game average, have a word with yourself!!!
Golden glove winner gets ignored too. People wrote Raya off at the start of the season.
On saka’s goal contributions, it’s not his fault that the rest of the team is good as well.
The other guys who have better G/A are one man teams (in terms of these stats)
Should strikers also be judged by who they score against ❤
Downvoted the second he said Odegaard didn't deserve a nomination. But then felt conflicted when he big up'd Big Gabi......I'm confused now.
Anyone who follows arsenal week in week out will see that Martin Ødegaard is that guy. Phenomenal player.
It’s an utter disgrace Saka hasn’t been able included he is the best all phases winger in the world!!!!
Odegaard has been immense this season, forget the goals and assists
2:45 'Newcastle have been awful this season'.
They've underperformed compared to last season but awful?
Currently 6th with a small chance of 5th all whilst having the highest number of injuries...i usually like Ade but that's a terrible take. And regardless, Isak has been brilliant, so why does Newcastle's form come into play for Player of the Year?
@@SpinsAndBottles I agree fully. Newcastle also have the 4th best GD this season and have had some thumping victories. Had they not set such a high standard last season, this would actually be seen as a very good season for them given how poor they've been previously.
Exactly...he says stupid stuff sometimes Ade.
“We’ve been waiting for a ‘box-to-box midfielder, nowadays we have that whole ‘6-8-10’ stuff”…buddy, the “8” is the box-to-box midfielder…lol
These things are just popularity contests has nothing to do with ability a lot of the time
The list is horse shite.........
Rice........yes!
Odegaard....... yes!!! Odegaard is criminally underrated by others, our Captain has been absolutely phenomenal and, alongside Declan Rice, they are the tireless engine room of my team.
Haaland....... yes.
Van Djik...... NO!
Watkins....... yes.
Isak...... yes.
Palmer...... yes.
Foden....... yes.
Saliba and Gabriel M have been absolutely phenomenal this season and it's unbelievable that neither of them are in this nomination crap.
Good old Tory Jennings never doing a positive Chelsea video after a win. Doesn't even support them
Such a disrespect to Aston Villa best ever striker………..😅
Palmer is 22 years old and Saka is 22 years old. But one is considered kid
Yeah but Saka has been exposed to a lot more top flight football minutes for a lot longer than Palmer by way of Palmer being at City way down the pecking order for so long. While Saka was at a floundering Arsenal and came through very very early because they had fuck all other options. Credit to him though he obviously took his opportunity and ran with it
Palmer just turned 22. He is 7 months younger than Saka and this is his 1st season in 1st team. And he is already being compared to seasoned veterans.
The twenty goal adeola said had so much power I even said bloody hell exactly like Rory 😂😂😂
Let's all overlook Ollie Watkins (cause he is not in the 'so called' big 6). 19 goals, 13 assists (KDB has 10 assists). If you added the pens Douglas Luiz has taken, he would have by estimate, 23 goals. For comparison, Haaland has 27 PL goals this season, having scored 7 pens and only has 5 assists. #criminallyunderrated
If Odeegard was English these two would love him.
Rice has scored 7 goals.
Palmer is 22.
Don't know if you're reading the comments but if you do have the time, a podcast with you two would be sensational.
Great chemistry, great discussions, much more chill than The Club.
“I could ask a lot of people their top 5 strikers and they might not say Aguero.”
Only you would do that Rory, and not only would you do that you’d do it 3 months after saying he’s #1
Kings Road?? Nah nah nah Ror what you chattin son its the Fulham Road!! Protests against Ed Barley on the Fulham Road with managers getting sacked in the dugout!! Its the crazy world of J-Smasher McBeale
Chelsea would be in relegation fight without Palmer
I’m sorry palmer wouldn’t of made a difference against Arsenal lol wasn’t a penalty for him to score either
I swear this man never posts when chelsea wins
Declan Rice should be number 1, the player of the season....... he's way better than I expected and he is indeed the real captain of our team on the pitch.
I hate this cause the argument Saka over Watkins is Saka is doing it for a team who’s winning the league but Cole Palmer who’s doing it for a team in 6th is better than both of them. Like what more could Watkins have done for me if it wasn’t biased he should win this award.
Saying Dias, stones or Gvardiol have been better than Van Dijk is just wrong
It's not.
The player of the season it is called. That means that you should be good pretty much all season. That would leave many players out, among them Phil Foden. Look at hos stats before Christmas. Not really that impressive. This should be a battle between Palmer and Rice. I would have included Odegaard as well among the top 3-4, but he was not good in the first two months and in December.
How has Bowen got more goals and assists than Saka?
Palmer, Watkins, Foden, Odegaard, Rice, White, Gabriel, Saliba, Raya. Anyone else is nonsense.
saying that watkins can go from the list is actually a joke
Sure in the context of comparing number of the 90’s and 00’s the likes of R9 with 414 goals + 104 assists and Henry 411 goals + 242 assists don’t look as impressive as the current crop when numbers are concerned but we’re still talking about scoring over 400 goals. That’s elite!
That is their total goals in their career. Also football has gotten harder now than before.
@@frankreynolds9930 not a chance. There’s a reason so many forwards are breaking 500+ goals and countless scoring records in every league. It’s because the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s were much harder to forwards with many elite defenders and this level peaked between the late 90’s to mid 00’s. Here’s a list of defenders from that era: Maldini, Canavarro, Nesta, Costacurta, Thuram, Desailly, Blanc, Ayala, Campbell, Terry, Ferdinand, Puyol, Lucio and there’s many more. I challenge you to name me as many truely elite defenders that are playing today that compare to that list.
I’m an Arsenal fan and Love Saka but Odegaard should not be in it before Saka but Before Rice as well. Odegaard is by far our best player and I genuinely think he’s a better player than Foden but Foden has had a better season.
I'd rather break a leg than travel to Vegas and Saudi...
Palmer should definitely win Young Player of the Year
can’t wait for this guy to suggest Salah and Van Dijk
Why does Rory always say Garnacho looks like a Real Madrid player that is acc so weird the guy ain't anything special just because he does the Suii 😂😂😂😂
Idk he’s got a weird kink for Garnacho. He always dickrides him
How can there not be any arsenal defenders
As an arsenal fan watching Bukayo Saka this season I dont think is POTY level. Penalties and Corners make his numbers look so much better than his play has shown. There have been good times, but honestly there have been a lot of times where he has left arsenal fans wanting more, even in wins. Average season if you ask me, not player of the year worthy. That being said he is still one of the best wingers in the world and just because he had a “down” year doesnt mean i don’t rate him highly, just when you put it into perspective, better shouts for POTY
Cole palmer has taken Chelsea all the way to 7th.
Ade I love you man but you've said that Jarrod Bowens numbers are better than Saka's, they genuinely aren't though
Wasn't Foden subbed off at half time vs Arsenal, completely pocketed by their rivals this season.
Yeah, because Saka was wonderful against City.
"Do we underrate foden"....no mate, we definitely dont. One of the most hyped players of all time considering hes had 1 good season
Palmer???? Above players that have put their teams streets ahead of all other competitors? Insanity
i mean palmer is genuinely hard carrying a sub par side. which is arguably more impressive than boosting an already good side
We need a regular football video or football podcast with you and Ade.
The big 6 bias lives strong in these two.
Ade.......... you blatant Arsenal hater, you!!!!!!😂
Bukayo Saka is only just 23 years old, mate, whereas Salah is about 10 years older, 10 years more of experience, 10 years of more development. You can't compare the two really, it's an unfair thing to do.
Ødegaard´s been Arsenals top 3 players this season at WORST. clear of saka infact
Saka has been nominated not just because of his offensive numbers.. look at his percentages in defense versus anybody in the world in his position. Just watch a match because he's far more than a few numbers to this team. And the man hasn't missed a game. Etcetera, etcetera (seriously) He shouldn't win it, but he definitely should be there. Yes, ahead of Salah, this year.
Cole Palmer is 22
Salah awful season? How can you allow him to say this unchallenged!
Much prefer these types of discussions. 👍
Ade has some of the WORST football takes. I don’t believe he watches football, he just looks at stats and makes his mind up.
Saka has not had a great season… Odegaard is their best player by a mile
Palmer would be in before saka
Cole Palmers a kid, can’t even drink in America … googles … Cole Palmer is 22, the same age as Saka (8 months younger but same year in school), can drink in America and is in fact not a kid.
Virgil has the best defensive numbers in the league.
Total nonsense, elevating Gabriel above Saliba. saliba, and it's not even close. You and Ade have clearly been talking to the Magalhaes family.
Ten Hag IN..LIKE BUTTON
Rory knows very little about football and is rarely right when he does make predictions. He also has approx. 6 fancy words in his vocabulary that he reminds us of over and over again... and that sums him up really.
Phil Foden has the same G/A as Saka
With 0 penalties. Shows you how good Foden is.
Bloody Hell , Van Dink for what? 😂😂😂😂😂
No Rodri funny!
Saliba and White are missing, what a joke!!!
Arsenal aint getting isak..... full stop u cant afford him. He is worth 150 mil easy and thats being nice
Odegaard is underrated because he’s not a English player but he’s arsenal number one best player this season. Collectively they all been good but for me odegaard rice then saka
For me it's Gabriel>Odegaard>Rice> Saka
Ødegaard should be nominated ahead of Saka.
Saka has been good, no doubt, but his entire season is a bit like Havertz' has been lately. Very good final product, but everything else is mediocre. By that I mean the final pass or the finish is great, but the part of the game that is 95% of every game, is just decent, not great or very good. Decent.
But indeed, Gabriel or Saliba should be ahead of Ødegaard, still.