Paul Zenon on 'Psychic' Sally Morgan, BBC News
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2011
- After 'Psychic' Sally Morgan gets accused in Dublin of receiving messages about people in the audience via an earpiece, Paul Zenon discusses the techniques of fake mediums.
It's essentially just an elaborate game of Guess Who. "Has anyone recently lost a loved on who wore glasses?" "Did he have a beard""oh my god, they're talking about Ken!"
I've met Paul a couple of times and he was a gent.
Paul zenon I am so glad you are exposing these people keep it up mate
This bloke is spot on.
Go on Paul expose them pal....great work...they are horrible people cashing in on death...
there is no point debating with someone who claims they are psychic.
+ladsham There is point in highlighting their bullshit though.
If anyone goes to a psychic show where Psycho Sally performs and is given a request card to give details of a deceased loved one BEFORE the show begins, I implore you to write about a fictional deceased loved one and see if she falls for it!
Another tactic many mediums use is to hire people to mingle with the audience and get them chatting about what they hope to hear and then repeat what they learned to the medium. I advise tricking people who seem suspiciously like such assisstants.
It is absurd that in this day and age we are still discussing this BS.
Never trust anyone who runs hotlines that cost over £2 a minute to be cold read......
Paul could have gone down that fraudulent path, seeing how lucrative it is, but instead he chose magic. Good on him.
Paul is a great guy. Met him at QED in 2012. Nice fella.
Nice one Paul!
Unfortunately I have a family member who falls under the category of not being able to change their mind about psychics, they think that they are genuine. It irritates me, I want them to see the level of deception and, in all honesty, the CONTEMPT that these charlatans have for the honest hard working men/women who fund their nonsense. Any tips on how to confront this issue guys?
I'm not looking to enforce my views on this person. I just want to help stop them wasting money on this twaddle.
Mr Zenon between 5.07 to 5.32 just nails it and how I and may others feel. These charlatans should hang their heads in shame by taking advantage of the naive, vulnerable and bereaving - its utterly contemptible
4:55 'There's a very good reason you can't talk to dead people, they're dead'
Just about sums it up...
Kudos to this skeptic. You're not allowed to challenge Sally Morgan it seems, she will take you to court.
A physic picked on my gran who was grieving from the loss of her daughter at the time. I have no respect from these con artists, they feed you lies and spread false hope in order to make money.
Well said paul....no such thing as Psychics + mediums...thanx for uploading *****
I once told a woman that she had very recently got married (her ring looked like it was new, no scratches and she was fiddling with it), that she had been hanging curtains (she looked stressed so i guessed she had recently moved house and was decorating etc.
I told her e few Barnum statements, her mothers name and a few more things (rainbow ruse type).
I got everything else i said wrong, but she only remembered the things i got right.
She was AMAZED! I then told her psychics are bullshit.
Sally managed to sue a newspaper because she doesnt use an earpiece, which is true she does not.
She fakes it a different way :D
+CK Wunch She did use an earpiece at the time, and eventually had to admit as much when Zenon uncovered some footage of her wearing one, and announced it on 'This Morning'.
Houdini2323 I didnt know that when i made my post months ago. Most people know all mediums are fake, it was just a case of "how" they are doing it :D
+CK Wunch Unfortunately that's not the case either - around half the population in the UK believe that it's possible to communicate with the dead, and far more than that in many other countries.
Yes; 'most' people are not your friends, unless you have a hell of a lot; none of my friends are believers either but they don't account for half the population!
Brilliantly put
Although I do believe in the spirit world, I have always had my suspicions about this woman for years.
Well said Mr Zennon.When you're dead,you're dead.Like my great great grandad told me last night when he appeared at the foot of my bed
Paul, concise, eloquent.
Thank you so much for sharing this vid.
Who could be in a better position to judge than someone who has done it and knows the methods? Takes one to know one.
Well said Paul Zenon!
As for the scientific point of view: 1/We cannot declare that a thing does not exist on the principle of its absence. 2/We cannot declare that a thing is not what it is under the pretext that we can imitate it. There is a big difference beetween to replicate and to duplicate. (Remember that duplicate & duplicity have the same lexical roots...)
I think the technical term for her work is "hooey"
It astounds me that grown adults would need to debate whether people can talk to the dead..
Of course they cant!
@bettyboolfc While I respect your grief what is wrong with death being the end? No more pain, anguish, sadness, hate, bills, rain, Piers Morgan etc. Sounds a good deal to me.
a genuine con artist praying on the deluded and vunerable and making a wealth living from it .
@DanJCunningham Yes, despite the hours or air time given to him for the points that he was trying to get across. Very much looking forward to seeing your (hopefully similarly interrupted or discouraged) sophisticated version on the BBC.
I am suprised at the amount of people that actually buy into mediums and psychics.
Handled brilliantly Mr Zennon ! (PS : You still have my lighter)
He is 100% right. It's disgusting.
How dare he debunk Santa and the Tooth Fairy at 9am in the morning. Poor kids that were watching that morning.
Sally Morgan was caught out again last month, oh dear lol.
@nowimgivingup There IS an afterlife, namley, the life that comes after ours. A healthy planet, the skills we teach our kids and the love we surround their hearts with IS the legacy and the ONLY legacy that a noble, brave and honorable person could hope to have. We are part of the after-life of those who fought for our privileges, technology and freedoms and we would do well to contribute and protect them. Abandon superstition and embrace the noble task of forging a world worth living in.
Well said Paul. Let's see how much difference it makes. Hmmm I'm getting something...SOD ALL!
30th January 2012 - 'Psychic' Sally is taking legal action against the Daily Mail over Paul Zenon's article written immediately prior to this interview in September 2011.
Totally agree with Paul Zenon !
I note she always finishes her conversations when she wants to to avoid any difficult questions by saying let's thank these people and claps as the audience does and the noise just shuts anyone up.
Are you trying to tell me that the dead don't talk to the living from beyond the grave ? I'm gobsmacked lol
Er, she doesn't any more as profits from theatre shows are far higher. Charlatans for decades have used cold and hot reading, Barnum statements, and there's a thing called a search engine which is pretty useful when someone gives you a name and you know their home town. An earpiece simply means that you don't have to memorise as much shit - thinking that it's essential is the equivalent of assuming that a tractor is the only way of getting from A to B.
Of course she is, that's why she invites the audience to fill in their names, the names of the deceased loved ones and the question they'd like to ask them before the show - der!!
I agree. Saw her last night in Wolverhampton. It was 2 hours of the Richard Bacon interview. She got so many things wrong it was embarrasing. She was looking desperate, jumping on things. She flew into a rage when someone heckled her. Some of the audience were very very gullible. Cringe worthy! Cold reading at its best.
Despicable woman. Don't know how she sleeps at night.
paul is a legend.....
@nowimgivingup That will be because she's not wearing an earpiece this week after the allegations and therefore has to rely on memorising things from the questions written down before the show. The second half should be better as her crew will have had plenty of time to use the Internet for research. She should still be okay though; the old timers had to rely on local newspaper obituaries rather than Google!
She should be up in court for fraud
...hang on - I'm getting the feeling that a celebrity couple might split up during the next year due to differences...
Why do people not understand Burden of Proof?
@scaffolderrrr - but sadly on the elderly, bereaved and grieving too.
@ElledieWildAndFree - although that would also be true, I actually did mean benificent.
Wow, what a clever, mature and well-argued point. Counting the sex reference as one, I make that six mistakes in one sentence - well done; you get smarter by the comment.
@bettyboolfc Indeed - fancy being upset about about something as trivial as old, lonely and grieving people being exploited by parasites.
I'm getting a Jimmy coming through to me, .. is there a Jimmy there?, .. or John, who's John?.. is there a Jim? ,.. i think it's a Jeremy, .. ( keep going till somebody puts there hand up)
My dead relatives are watching me? What about when I'm polishing my rhubarb?
5:05 That! Exactly that! It's why these Charlatans need to be stopped. They disgust me.
@TheRuiMartins ...Thirdly, who actually said that anyone 'criticizes' [sic] the wealthy here? Zenon is very successful as a magician (and obviously with no desire to pretend that he has 'psychic' or 'supernatural' powers), and actually he is a millionaire (Sterling rather than Dollars). So in terms of 'THE BEST CRITICS' (your childish capitals), he's about as well informed as you're likely to get, and certainly not one who's 'FAILED TO PERFORM THEIR ART' - pretty much the opposite.
@nowimgivingup
Oh no, that's terrible! What will she do now? Appreciate her time alive on the planet instead? Poor girl.
About the first thing ive seen on you tube i believe and agree with, no offence meant to those who get comfort from people like sally morgan.
There will always be enough stupid (and sadly vulnerable people) in the world to keep these money makers in business.
Well the harm is that belief in bullshit doesn't do them any good. Your argument is the one that is addressed in the clip, re cowboy builders. And a good example Paul gave on 4thought.tv recently is of the guy whose wife died; despite being intelligent, he was so distraught that he went to see a medium. She told him that his wife was okay now where she was and that the pain had gone; she was just waiting for him to join her. So he comitted suicide the following week, to be with her.
The burden of proof is on showing that such an ability is scientifically possible and testable. Stating that there is no proof either way does nothing to add to the credibility of psychics and mediums. It is equally impossible to disprove any supernatural claim. The important thing to remember is that we perceive everything in the physical world. To us as humans, we can only be certain of the things we can interact with. There is no joy in supporting a supernatural claim for no reason.
I agree. I mean, all you have to do is think about what their saying logically ... Their charging you, to talk to dead people... Come on
@Houdini2323 A person can be elderly and gullible at the same time.
@DanJCunningham That's okay; you're forgiven.
Yes, sadly they're often not in a position to make logical judgements though because they've been recently bereaved - that's why it's exploitative and something should be done about it. The media seems to be in agreement about cowboy builders and the like preying upon the elderly and vulnerable so why not these parasites? It's actually worse as it capitalises on emotions.
If you are being kind.
Wow, have you got a ways to go!
Remember paul from kids tv wen i was young is it wrong tofancy himnow
cold reading is easy - you too can learn it.
@nowimgivingup
there isn't an afterlife, so if sally morgans shit show taught you that the night wasn't a complete loss.
@Houdini2323 Or even beneficial
@checkoutgirl No shit?!
(Or even benificent!)
@bettyboolfc Unfortunately the truth is often not what we want to believe, and that is what makes people like you particularly vulnerable to exploitation by so-called mediums. What you have to consider is that anyone actually had 'the gift' of being able to communicate with the dead, how would they ever justify charging money for it? And why aren't they all rich from finding lost treasures, etc, rather than having to claw their money from bereaved people?
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!
I can do the same thing in one on one readings.
A person doesn't pay a lot of money to go and have a reading if they do not believe it. If you already believe it, you are credulous. It's very easy with these people. Confirmation bias sets in, they forget every miss and only remember the hits.
@nowimgivingup All those types of psychic shows are edited to make the "psychic" look good.
@bettyboolfc maybe you just need a new outlook on death, if indeed there is an afterlife it also means there are infinite possibilities of what they is, it's almost more comforting to believe there is nothing than, as some believe, just soles just flying around until they have the chance to contact someone
@TheRuiMartins That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. No comparison: for one, you are assuming that magicians want to be regarded like 'psychics' - Paul Zenon has clearly stated that he wasn't comfortable manipulating people in that way for money. If he was he would have clearly carried on doing it as he's good at it (see the 'This Morning' clip). Secondly, magicians are very honest in the sense that they freely admit that they use tricks for entertainment purposes...
the worst thing is that she's exploiting peoples' grief to make a living.
@zimmoframen If they were, at least they would be doing something benificient.
These fraudsters should be locked up
sally morgan makes me sick
Sally and Shirley Ghostman are the best mediums in the UK at the moment!
If you don't believe in the paranormal, don't fucking follow it... It's as simple as that!!
+Walking With Christ It's not quite as simple as that - if you find something offensive, then make a stand against it. For example; religion.
There are no psychics, reputable or otherwise.
I give in - conclusive proof that they have 'the gift' - I don't know why they piss about with predicting terrorist attacks, the end of the world and other insignificant shit though; what we really want to know is in whose crow's nest Johnny Depp is nesting his parrot. 'N that.
@Houdini2323 OK,Sorry,I'll mind my own business,then.
no one is genuine....its bollocks, but if it makes people feel better?
I was born open, so I grew up with tons of supernatural gifts, which I had assumed everyone was the same way.
I got into a lot of trouble at school and at home, for talking about the dead relatives I could see, the messages I received from God, mind speak with animals & all living things, knowing the future and what people were thinking about, remembering my past lives, and on & on.
I've never been taught any cold reading skills, nor did I ever conduct research on folks. It sounds like a lot of work to do. However, there are indeed hoaxers & charlatans, sadly.
I receive vast amounts of data, that is holographically downloaded to me.
I give my services for free, so I certainly do not profit monetarily. I love helping others, just as my spiritual beliefs & Knowing tells me so.
However, everyone is gifted, whether one is an artist, or an accountant. We all have the right to make a living with our talents. My spiritual gifts are just as valid as my skills in science and math. I began work as a scientist, at the age of 16, because I was also gifted with analytical abilities.
Being a psychic medium, past life reader, future events, right livelihood/residence, relationships, medical intuitive, and character readings, I can do without anything. I don't even use any divination tools. Again, too much effort to learn these systems.
I am so bad at strategizing and/or manipulation, that I can't even play checkers, because I don't have the ability to plan steps.
I mostly follow my intuition, spiritual guidance, and developed my psychic abilities, such that doing readings is rather easy for me.
I surmise that my Native American ancestry, and astrological chart is why I have these paranormal gifts.
This isn't a black & white topic, either/or, and readily categorized. I have done my best to prove my abilities, but often skeptics are unable to be open-minded.
I understand. Hey, if I wasn't experiencing all of this, I'd never believe it, either.
I am glad that Paul can expose the fakery.
Anyway, I'd love it if there was a way he could figure out why or how, I can do these seemingly impossible things.
Because then, it'd be far easier for more people to learn about developing their own innate abilities.
Blessings to all.
+Elaine Marie No - you weren't. End of argument unless you can produce any actual, real evidence otherwise. That's REAL evidence. otherwise, shut up.
+Elaine Marie Bollocks.
You grew up with 'tons of supernatural gifts' and 'Being a psychic medium, past life reader, future events, right livelihood/residence, relationships, medical intuitive, and character readings, I can do without anything'.
That's quite handy then, as you don't seem to have much money (why not if you can contact the dead AND predict the future?) My intuition is sensing that you live alone, other than the cats.
Why don't you win the prize money from the james randi foundation? And then donate it or start your own psychic foundation.
+Elaine Marie What a load of stupid bull****.
Ok you arrange the trip to america and not a problem no PR no papers involved I have aready undertaken tests at Bristol University All the money I make go's to charity so not an issue for it going to a charity of my choice I don't do the psychic thing but do have some wierd ability to know whats happening in a persons life what there dead relitives look like how they died etc and peprsonal details, How I don't know never had trainging, did have Meningitus at 24 though, that might be why ??
@TheRuiMartins Ah yes, all those wannabes like Paul, Derren Brown, David Blaine, David Copperfield - how I bet they wish they could be as successful as all those internationally famous psychics like...er...
It isn't 'art' dicksplash, it's morally bankrupt claptrap which preys on the vulnerable. You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept that the point of doing magic is for entertainment. If you don't consider 'mediums' to be greedy, ask yourself why they charge money at all for their 'gift'.
A lot less distance than you it would seem, considering your (in)ability to construct a short sentence.
in a nutshell.......dead people can not talk.......end of.
No - Tony Stockwell is not the real deal, and there is plenty of evidence of that. On top of which - there is NO real deal in terms of mediums, communicating with the dead is not possible, otherwise we would live in a very different world.
anyone can talk to the dead, just the talking back bit is a bit tricky.