I love when people make home videos. They motivate and inspire. So, I write this comments in an attempt to help not harm anyone. That said, some pointers come to mind. 2020 NEC 110.3.(B). Talks about following the manufactures instructions for installation and use of equipment. So, at about 4:50 he talked about putting 2 wires under one screw in his panel. This must be allowed in the panel instructions (approved for that usage). 2020 NEC 300.18 talks about installing the raceway before putting the wires in it. I believe this is to protect the wires from pinching as the raceway pieces are installed. Also, when the box was screwed to the wall, the wires were very close to the rotating drill head and bit. The si.ple act of driving the screws could then grind off the wire insulation rendering the Wire usless. 2020 NEC 210.8 at home gfci protection for personnel talks about outdoor recrpticple needing gfci protection. A 2020 change was to the voltage.... Fro. 125v to 250 v recepticles. 2020 NEC 406.9.(B).(2). Talks about outside (wet location) recepticles like in this video needing a weather proof enclosure when the plug is installed. Again, I am not trying to nit-pick flaws, I looked but was unsure if the breaker was gfci protect and their was zero mention of the plug cover. Please get your safest install. People have bled and died for some of the rules. Be safe out there. PS. With all those and more rules to look at, you can see how they charge so much.
Should 30A RV outlet installed inside garage be GFCI protected, in which case I would need to install 30A GFCI breaker (don’t think I have ever seen 30A GFCI RV outlet)?
No, the GFCI requirement only applies to 20A circuits and lower AND it has to be in an area that can get wet (like outside, kitchen, bathroom etc.) Your city may vary but that is most cities/areas. But no, a 30A GFCI doesn't exist (That I know of).
Sir, the 2020 National Electric Code (NEC) has 2 sections for this: 90.4 points out your local building inspector (ahj) can adjust the requirements in the NEC 210 gfci for people protection.... in 210.8.(A). Dwelling units All receptacles must be gfci protected 220.8.(A,).(2). Garages. So, yes gfci. Be safe.
@@guitarfreak2105 sir, a review of my 2020 NEC under gfci protection for people 210.8. It is a voltage limit listed .... 125 through 250 (their numbers. So, in the garage, all recepticles now require gfci. Please double check me on this, I am never "wrong", but I was "mistake" in my past.
8:50, it does matter where the hot and neutral are terminated on the receptacle. Please edit so no one fries their devices plugging into outlets or worse. Otherwise this is good.
By following NCE code you can’t add new breaker on system without grounding system specially that Zinsco ( one of dangerous main electrical panel in the U.S.)
I had an outlet for a kitchen stove but got rid of the stove, and wanted to use the breaker/wire to install a 30A RV outlet. The breaker is (2) 120v, 30a breakers attached together with a plastic piece. The guy I had install the outlet didn't replace the breaker or wire, but said he only wired "one leg" (or something like that), so it's only 120v at the outlet. He showed me on the volt-o-meter it said 120. Does that sound right?
Technically that would work but it would be far better just to get a single pole 30 amp breaker to avoid confusion and be closer to code. An inspector wouldn't like it at all.
He saved you 10 bucks today to condemn you to spending more tomorrow. The next guy, cannot use that second breaker. He must replace both. That happens at tomorrow's prices.
I have 30 amp cord that I use to power my house via a portable generator ( when power is out). Hardwired cord that has a 30a male on the end that plugs in the generator. I am trying to find a 30 amp Female to 30 amp female to back feed from the house to the RV trailer but I cant find that kind of adapter. Is that something I am not supposed to do?
This is an area ( powering your house with a local generator), is an area of great concern. It can be done, but please call inthe calvary on this one. ( Local electrician, ,build department, even the utility). Power on the pole is about 12,000 volts. Transformers work in both directions. That power line on the ground 2 miles from your house may be powered at 12,000 volts by your generator through the transformer on the pole. This could be a shocking experience for the neighborhood kids and the electrical guys trying to fix everything. There are breaker interlocks to prevent shutting two breakers (your street supply and your generator supply) at the same time and elaborate switching devices to prevent the double power thing. When power is restored to the pole from the utility, your generator may be a big short circuit for the utility. In that fight, the utility will be thousands of times bigger than you.... So please, make a phone call or two, buy someone a six pack, have a BBQ and pick someone's brain. Those rules are there for safety and while many can do it can they make it SAFE, not .just make it work,?
I am being quoted $3000 to install a 30&50 RV box. Unfortunately my Electric box is on the opposite side of the house. So they were would be run through the attic. 75 feet total. He stated due to the price of wire today. Am I being taken advantage of? I know that includes parts & labor but geezz! This is in Phoenix with a building boom. Thank you!
I would run everything yourself and if you don't feel comfortable have an electrician check your work and install and connect the breaker. If you don't know any electricians, ask a Realtor. They often know a lot of independent tradesmen they use to get houses ready to sell.
I just got a quote for $1200 with the main on the opposite side of the wall 10' run max that includes the pigtail length. I asked him how much if I provided all the materials. He ok (same price) but included it would void the warranty of his work. I'm having a time trying to find anyone willing to actually do any jobs. Had 3 quotes lined up for a mental roof (20×16 shed) install, no one showed
Maybe we should shut the power off before you start fucking putting wires in there where it’s hot and I’ve never done it before but obviously you could wire that box up after you got your measurements then put it on the wall or the side of the house talk about safety first like I said I’ve never did it. I am a high-voltage electrician linesman for 30 years safety first and smarter not harder. Second piece out smoothie.
I love when people make home videos. They motivate and inspire.
So, I write this comments in an attempt to help not harm anyone.
That said, some pointers come to mind.
2020 NEC 110.3.(B). Talks about following the manufactures instructions for installation and use of equipment. So, at about 4:50 he talked about putting 2 wires under one screw in his panel. This must be allowed in the panel instructions (approved for that usage).
2020 NEC 300.18 talks about installing the raceway before putting the wires in it. I believe this is to protect the wires from pinching as the raceway pieces are installed. Also, when the box was screwed to the wall, the wires were very close to the rotating drill head and bit. The si.ple act of driving the screws could then grind off the wire insulation rendering the Wire usless.
2020 NEC 210.8 at home gfci protection for personnel talks about outdoor recrpticple needing gfci protection. A 2020 change was to the voltage....
Fro. 125v to 250 v recepticles.
2020 NEC 406.9.(B).(2). Talks about outside (wet location) recepticles like in this video needing a weather proof enclosure when the plug is installed.
Again, I am not trying to nit-pick flaws, I looked but was unsure if the breaker was gfci protect and their was zero mention of the plug cover.
Please get your safest install. People have bled and died for some of the rules.
Be safe out there.
PS. With all those and more rules to look at, you can see how they charge so much.
Now this is the motivation i need to buy an RV
I wanted to know where the white and green wires connected in the breaker box.
I saw on another vid that the service box needs to be installed at least 24" off the ground.
Should 30A RV outlet installed inside garage be GFCI protected, in which case I would need to install 30A GFCI breaker (don’t think I have ever seen 30A GFCI RV outlet)?
No, the GFCI requirement only applies to 20A circuits and lower AND it has to be in an area that can get wet (like outside, kitchen, bathroom etc.) Your city may vary but that is most cities/areas. But no, a 30A GFCI doesn't exist (That I know of).
They exist.
Sir, the 2020 National Electric Code (NEC) has 2 sections for this:
90.4 points out your local building inspector (ahj) can adjust the requirements in the NEC
210 gfci for people protection.... in 210.8.(A). Dwelling units
All receptacles must be gfci protected
220.8.(A,).(2). Garages.
So, yes gfci.
Be safe.
@@guitarfreak2105 sir, a review of my 2020 NEC under gfci protection for people 210.8. It is a voltage limit listed .... 125 through 250 (their numbers. So, in the garage, all recepticles now require gfci.
Please double check me on this, I am never "wrong", but I was "mistake" in my past.
@@keithharrington8715 Thanks for the clarification, Keith.
8:50, it does matter where the hot and neutral are terminated on the receptacle. Please edit so no one fries their devices plugging into outlets or worse. Otherwise this is good.
By following NCE code you can’t add new breaker on system without grounding system specially that Zinsco ( one of dangerous main electrical panel in the U.S.)
I had an outlet for a kitchen stove but got rid of the stove, and wanted to use the breaker/wire to install a 30A RV outlet. The breaker is (2) 120v, 30a breakers attached together with a plastic piece. The guy I had install the outlet didn't replace the breaker or wire, but said he only wired "one leg" (or something like that), so it's only 120v at the outlet. He showed me on the volt-o-meter it said 120. Does that sound right?
Technically that would work but it would be far better just to get a single pole 30 amp breaker to avoid confusion and be closer to code. An inspector wouldn't like it at all.
He saved you 10 bucks today to condemn you to spending more tomorrow.
The next guy, cannot use that second breaker. He must replace both. That happens at tomorrow's prices.
10:36 your hand so close to the livepower
I like the red switches of the breakers. Very art deco
I have 30 amp cord that I use to power my house via a portable generator ( when power is out). Hardwired cord that has a 30a male on the end that plugs in the generator. I am trying to find a 30 amp Female to 30 amp female to back feed from the house to the RV trailer but I cant find that kind of adapter. Is that something I am not supposed to do?
This is an area ( powering your house with a local generator), is an area of great concern.
It can be done, but please call inthe calvary on this one. ( Local electrician, ,build department, even the utility).
Power on the pole is about 12,000 volts.
Transformers work in both directions.
That power line on the ground 2 miles from your house may be powered at 12,000 volts by your generator through the transformer on the pole. This could be a shocking experience for the neighborhood kids and the electrical guys trying to fix everything.
There are breaker interlocks to prevent shutting two breakers (your street supply and your generator supply) at the same time and elaborate switching devices to prevent the double power thing.
When power is restored to the pole from the utility, your generator may be a big short circuit for the utility. In that fight, the utility will be thousands of times bigger than you....
So please, make a phone call or two, buy someone a six pack, have a BBQ and pick someone's brain. Those rules are there for safety and while many can do it can they make it SAFE, not .just make it work,?
Thx!!
I am being quoted $3000 to install a 30&50 RV box. Unfortunately my Electric box is on the opposite side of the house. So they were would be run through the attic. 75 feet total. He stated due to the price of wire today. Am I being taken advantage of? I know that includes parts & labor but geezz! This is in Phoenix with a building boom. Thank you!
Easy to see what material costs would be at any box store. $3k is insane.
Do it yourself
I would run everything yourself and if you don't feel comfortable have an electrician check your work and install and connect the breaker. If you don't know any electricians, ask a Realtor. They often know a lot of independent tradesmen they use to get houses ready to sell.
I just got a quote for $1200 with the main on the opposite side of the wall 10' run max that includes the pigtail length. I asked him how much if I provided all the materials. He ok (same price) but included it would void the warranty of his work.
I'm having a time trying to find anyone willing to actually do any jobs. Had 3 quotes lined up for a mental roof (20×16 shed) install, no one showed
That’s the installed price?
missed opportunity to show your wiring connections in the outlet panel..
Maybe set it at 3ft up from the ground would be better
Grasias por compartir
panel needs to be replaced before the house and rv get burned down
your missing some steps
That outlet is way too close to the water spigot.
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Maybe we should shut the power off before you start fucking putting wires in there where it’s hot and I’ve never done it before but obviously you could wire that box up after you got your measurements then put it on the wall or the side of the house talk about safety first like I said I’ve never did it. I am a high-voltage electrician linesman for 30 years safety first and smarter not harder. Second piece out smoothie.
Stop with the ums