it's been raining here, i've got two solid days in the grease and muck. the Dissector has been ruling! braking and cornering haven't been an issue at all. i've seen more and more people running DHR 2's front and back, looks like one heck of a combo!
@@ShaneScrimager I know the feeling, its winter here in Denmark, and contrary to popular belief, winter means grey skies and non-stop rain -no snow, if we want some bike time, mud is the name of the game :) Im even considering trying Dissector front, Rekon rear when summer comes, should be fast/playful and somewhat grippy :) Happy trails! :)
Threw on a Dissector in the rear last week. Got a random rain and it performed well in the mud. I threw on a DHRII up front today, but haven't ridden it yet.
Im currently running the new Forkaster evo F/R on my full sus trail bike as they are what came stock on my bike. They are super fast rolling but i have noticed a bit of slippage on rocky sections here on the trails in northern California. I still haven't ridden them in the rain on muddy conditions but what I've read they are supposed to hadle quite good in muddy terrain. Also i just purchased two dissectors 1-DD MaxxTerra, 2-DD MaxxGripp along with a DHRll DD MaxxTerra. I plan on running the DHRll on the Front and the dissector on the rear lol the reason i chose the DHRll was because spec wise on maxxis website it has slightly better cornering control and better braking traction compared to the DHF. The reasons i went with the DD version was for the better puncture resistance and a better peace of mind knowing i can hit any line and not worry about my tires puncturing/tearing especially on the rocky sections of the trails as i tend to ride my bike to the trails from my house.
you'll be happy with the jump in grip and cornering. hopefully happy enough with this over the rolling speed. you may feel you have to keep the bike up to speed / put in a few pedals in the beginning. i still think you'll benefit from the confidence and grip!
thanks for the video, I too have been a DHR/DHF guy fan for years. Been looking at going to the same Dissector/Assegai set up. Perfect timing in finding your channel. New sub here - thanks for the video
I ride park, natural DH and loose rocky enduro trails, and natural trail in SoCal. From your surrounding it looks like you’re in SoCal as well. My Intense Carbine came with DHF/DHR and I feel it is very slow rolling compared to other tires I’ve used when it comes to natural or aggressive trail. My honest opinion, it has top notch puncture resistance, grip and durability on the other conditions I ride. Ultimately, I’m looking for a do it all tire that has speed, grip, puncture resistance, durability, and longevity. I’m sorta interested in running the “Assi” front and rear, but hear its even slower rolling and don’t want to blow cash on tires that will not produce what I expect of them. There seems to be quite a bit of indifference on what works here in SoCal as combo setup. Even here in your comments I see it as well. I’m very familiar with the Specialized tires and have had good results but as of lately they have gone the way of offering a gaggle of tires adding to the confusion. Then you have Continental, Schwbi, and Michelin that offer good comparable tires for the money. Like’d and Sub’d!
@ShaneScrimager I have considered inserts, but the additional rolling weight is my concern. To combat the additional weight, I would need to run CF rims. Unfortunately, it is something I am not fond of nor care to waste money on.
absolutely! have an update video coming soon. been trying other combos and still come back to these four tires. please subscribe! more videos rolling out.
Great review. I am a Schwalbe guy but due to all the rain here in New England and how it’s made everything like ice (wet tree roots, rocks, etc) I felt like the magic Mary’s were getting pinged around as the big side knobs slipped off stuff. Switched back to maxxis Assegai/dhr 2 this week and it’s like a light switch. The bike settled down and I feel like it’s gripping as it should.
been researching new tires so this popped up :) good info though to those looking at more tires for fun less talking dude and more talking even if voice over of action as you are showing those corners and climbs and downs etc...
Awesome down to earth review mate. I'm running a DHR II Rear and DHF on my Trek Remedy currently but thinking something a little faster rolling for summer riding, looks like i'll have to give the Dissector Rear and Assegai Front a try.
shred'tastic summer combo! i'm loving the Assegai front. exactly, Dissector rear for the summer and keep the DHR2 in mind for the winter. rip and shred my friend!!!
The Assegai 29 x 2.5 is my front and the Minion DHR II 29 x 2.4 is my rear set up. Great for the canyons in So. Cal. Equipment is a 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo Comp Carbon e-bike 29er
thank you!!! for sure, i’ve stepped back from quantity and am more than ok waiting to put out more content when i’ve got something worth sharing + shredding! fox 38 / dhx2 upgrade in the works / 2021 Stumpjumper beat up and upgrade too! 🙌🏻
that’s my Kona Process setup! went for it tonight and tried to stay off the brakes (as much as i could) trying to find where that setup will wash in this phloof over hard. it smashed and i found a whole new level of rail’n berms. great setup for sure 🤙🏻
so good! I have to agree!!! my buddy is running the Dissector up front and the Rekon in the rear. i'm thinking it may be an ok summer set up but better when the dirt is tacky / lots of grip.
The algorithm sent me here... I guess AI knows I'm looking for front and rear tires. Now I'm going to have to see what, and how you ride. My bike came stock with HighRoller IIs, front and back. The front has been ok but the rear is beyond greasy. It's slick as owl shit powering up rocky climbs. If it's wet I feel like I'm sprinting on my trainer going nowhere. I'm a 220lb ex gym rat so I need a fast roller but need more grip on the back. I run CushCore front and rear so I'm not worried about weight or pinch flats. Thanks for giving me more info on my next choice!
hey Bo! i've run the HR2 as a summer tire years back, same thoughts - way loose! sounds like a DHR2 would be a good fit your trails / weather. the Dissector may have a little better grip than the HR2 but it wouldn't be night and day like the DHR2.
thanks Michael! appreciate it. a few more videos posted, a little more information on the tires there. been riding the Specialized Butcher front and Purgatory rear for trails and moved the Maxxis set up to my DH bike. more reviews in the works! 🙌🏻💥🤙🏻
Mate, gonna be honest, this comparison did my head in. You've used a Maxx Grip for the DHR2, but a Maxx Terra for the Dissector, doesn't really seem like apples vs apples. Would make sense any Maxx Terra is faster than a Maxx Grip. Also, first time I've heard the Assegai described as fast rolling, but that could just be given it was on the front only. For what it's worth I run DHR2 front and rear, but Maxx Terra up front, DC rear.
on a Maxx Grip DD Dissector now! wears just as fast, didn’t really notice too much difference other than the damping. cornering / braking / acceleration real close. split the casing twice today, going to the shop tomorrow …not sure if i’m going back to the DHR or 3rd Dissector! will add a video and the terrain soon. i’m running the Assegai up front Dissector rear for Enduro / Downhill
I’m having Schwalbe Nobby Nic 27.5x2.4 front and rear. I’m totally shredding my trail bike on a pretty rough terrain. Only downside is tires, as they quite often doesn’t give me a solid grip. I’m really impressed by your review and considering to buy Assegai front 27.5x2.5 and DHR II rear 27.5x2.4. So, will those tire width be perfect combo? Cheers,✌🏼
what’s up George! perfect combo, EXO+ Maxx Terra or DD Maxx Terra. they’re just a bit slower but sounds like you have some chunky trails. the better grip will pay for the bit slower rolling. play with air pressure too, fine tune. i’m 26psi front and 28psi rear, perfect for the chunk here. maybe a bit high on the pressure bits it’s to make up for the rolling 🤙🏻 let me know
Awesome insight. I ran a Assegai front (Exo+, Maxxterra) and dissector rear (exo, maxxterra) for most of the fall/winter last year. I loved that combo it was so easy to put miles on it and still be aggressive. EXO is unacceptable for anything but xc though, I have permanently deformed 4 (3 aggressor, 1 dissector) casings from off camber landings so the dissector does need a DD casing for me to buy it again. What is your take on the HR2? I've been running a 2.5 assegai front/2.5 HR2 rear for most of the summer and that is my all time favorite tire combination, but I have a 2.4 DHR2 on the way (I have ridden it before) as I feel it has superior wet braking traction to the HR2 going into the fall/winter months.
agree on the EXO, i sliced my Dissector on a not too bad rock landing. DD would have ate it up. LOL! same, i've stretched many sidewalls get'n loose!!! i ran a High Roller in the front for years on my downhill bike (DHR in the rear), bought my 1st DHF (2012?) and the HR2 still had plenty of tread so i threw it on the rear. what was i doing running that as a front tire!!! ripping rear tire in the summer for sure. but as soon as it got wet it was all over! i was almost going with the HR2 when i picked up my 1st Dissector for the summer, i'm glad i went with the Dissector but the HR2 has earned summer duty for sure. DHR2 for fall / winter all the way, darn good tire.
Awesome review brotha. I have an Assegai up front and just bought the Dissector for my rear. Is the EXO strong enough? Any issues? How is durabilty wear wise?
what’s up Raptor! the only thing i’ve found eats EXO and really any tire, is rim hits and sidewall slashes. if you’re in super rocky / rooty conditions and slamming your rim on rocks and roots, they won’t last long. flow trails and tame rock sections - you’re all good my dude. 🤙🏻
@@ShaneScrimager thanks brotha man. Pretty wide range of terrain I ride, so let's see what happens. My assegai up front is exo+ and I love it, so hope exo is still good enough.
I liked your explanations on all the set ups and your real world feel of each of them. I've been eyeing up the assegai up front and dissector rear and I think you cleared it up for me. Also what is that orange bike you showed off first? I love the looks of it!
what’s up Jesus! my truck has a 6’6” bed and i’ve pushed my tent almost all the way to the cab. i start left to right with a kind of angle to get them in. like a 45 degree angle. i can fit 5 no problem. rear tire doesn’t fit? i have plenty of clearance. you may need a higher rack.
what's up Rohan! great choice, i always start with lower knobs = speed focused (like the Aggressor) vs higher knobs (DHF / DHR 2) that lean toward maximum traction. the Rekon in a 2.5 or even 2.6 would match the speed and profile of the Aggressor but may limit versatility (on our trails here). i think the Rekon would be an amazing front tire for my home town trails in Santa Barbara. lots of loose over hard, shale, rocky, same sweet dirt all year long. i'm in Grass Valley now where the dirt is magic and varies from summer blown out loose over hard / root / rocky to winter magic / gummy / sticky / wet root and rock. i need more traction to bite through the phloof / loose / gummy dirt. if that's the case, go Assegai!!! really depends on what trails you ride / if you travel to different conditions / if you have seasons that really change up the dirt. i think you'd be happier with the Assegai, a trail / DH focused tire that will rail berms, smash turns, point that thing through anything and still be a great rolling tire. if you are more XC / Trail focused, the Rekon will shine.
Im thinking about the dissector/assegai combo next for my enduro bike... want something a bit faster rolling but still plenty of traction compared to my michelin wild enduro’s
Kona’s are coming off the line with Assegai front and DHR rears. i’m still rocking my Dissector in the rear and have been in some grease from the recent rains. it’s holding up, i keep saying i’m throwing a DHR on for the winter but haven’t had a reason to take the Dissector off. think you’ll be happy with the Dissector / Assegai combo, especially on an enduro rig!
Great insight and facts! If you couldn't have assguy for front lol and could only pick between DHF or DHR for front, which would you pick? I think Greg.M, won a cup with DHR ii F & R too...but I'm curious your opinion
i saw that! it was soooo muddy. if i did go DHR front and back it would be a 2.5 WT up front and 2.4 (not WT) in the rear. but, riding in the mud here ruins most trails (i don't ever really get to ride in real mud) and the trails that can handle the rain are more rock / root / shale so i stick with the DHF. i still have the DHF on one trail bike and my downhill bike. the DHF is such a great tire!
on my enduro I love Assegai and Dhr2/Dissector. Trail bike I love DHR2 front and Dissector rear. My biggest complaint is the fast wear and puncture prone Dissector in both EXO and EXO plus. IMHO a perfect Dissector would be DC compound in EXO+ which they don't make...smh
Gonger!!! after two punctures in the channel of the Dissector, i finally got one in the channel of the DHF 1 lap before the race... have an Assegai on there now hoping that channel knob will help. I may go back to the DHR when this Dissector is done. but man, Assegai front Dissector rear has been soooo good at Northstar!!!
Hello. I'm little bit surprised. Never heard that Assegai is faster than DHF. Everyones who I was asking said that assegai is kind of anhor but with much more grip than DHF. And what they was surprised. It clears nice from mud. But when You go really fast.
in the last year i've been playing with compounds, EXO, EXO+, DD, DH. i started with just swapping the DHF with the Assegai and left the rear. I noticed it. but the trails here are mostly hard pack, loose over hard, rocks and roots. when we get rain or when the dirt is prime, everything feels a little slower. i'll always love the DHF and DHR but i did just swap out my DHF on the race bike to a Assegai! here's the reason why, ua-cam.com/video/Mo2cf3Ju2H8/v-deo.html
i've been running that combo for over a year and love it. i'd say the combo wants high speed and chunky trails with loose conditions. otherwise they may be adding a little drag and you could run a not so aggressive tread pattern for better rolling.
I've been trying to figure the same thing out, what's they best for non park days. Rolling resistance then grip. I've been starting to play outside the maxxis lineup and going to try out some wtb stuff. Also curious about semislicks for the rear. Current setup is a ardent rear and ethirteen trs up front. The trs bites up front but is a slow roller. Ardent I have had zero issues with.
WTB is here in town! will have a tire discussion soon. amazing tires and deserving comparison. the Ardent is a great everything tire for sure. haven’t had a chance to try any ethirteens.
But Assegai has limited offer for 27.5 and what is available is heavy, more than 1kg in the most cases, then I am worried about uphill, climbing will be hard, dying hard 🤔, what is your feeling, experience ?
@@ShaneScrimager no doubt about grip, maybe is offering more than I need for my trips, after climb no energy to hold bike but then Assegai will take over steering 😉, maybe will consider still Nobby Nic, thanks
Solid review of solid choices. Was a DHR/DHF rider for a long time like you. I was happy with the DHF but never made piece with how slowly the DHR rolled. The Assegai has replaced the DHF for me and at this point I can't imagine putting a different 2.5 front tire on a bike I own. Maybe a mud spike if conditions called for it? I didn't notice as much of a rolling-speed advantage over a DHF, but what I did notice was significantly better braking traction along with stellar cornering grip at all lean angles. I LOVE the DHF but it has put me on my face a few times when I got lazy and didn't initiate a flatter corner with the bike leaned over far enough. Assegai makes this a non-issue and if it has a lower limit for outright grip than the DHF in the turns it's above my pay grade to find it. Bonus is that I put 500+ miles on one without any real decline in performance. I'm more conflicted on the Dissector. I agree that the Dissector is dramatically faster-rolling than the DHR. I also noticed a bit less braking bite (although some of that probably just cause we're rolling faster!). I didn't have the same issues climbing but would make sense it has bit less bite there too. Cornering grip when the knobs were fresh was on par with the DHR (at least for me). Bottom line is that for the first 100 miles I was over the moon. My two reservations re: the Dissector are 1) performance in the wet (no experience) and 2) durability. The knobs on the (3c exo+ maxterra) Dissector I bought undercut significantly faster than the knobs on other Maxxis tires including a DHRII (with identical casing and compounds) or Aggressor (not a fan of this tire) that I've run in the past. On top of that, I managed to puncture (not snakebite) the casing. I've never punctured a DHR or Aggressor in that manner before. Could have been a fluke, but I think the large open channel between the side knobs and the center tread makes it more vulnerable than other patterns with more tightly spaced and transitional knobs. The jury is still out, but I'd be really excited to try the Dissector with a dual-compound rubber (to help the cornering knobs hold up better) and double down casing (to protect that channel without any knobs). I don't think this combo exists but it might be the golden ticket if that harder compound doesn't give up too much grip. Would have to try to know!
100% i slammed a rock landing and split the casing at the rim AND in the channel between the tread! proper sealant blowout, everywhere... i agree, that open channel on the Dissector may have been the reason. it's going be hard to sideline the DHF but the Assegai has me convinced it's a keeper. going to put the Dissector to the test this winter, we'll have to compare notes. durability - you, me and a buddy Brian all noticed the quick wear on the Dissector. i'd like to try a dual compound double down as well, hurry up with that DD option Maxxis!!!
Hi, what pressure do you run your tires, especially the Assegai? I’m wondering if that is affecting your rolling speed. Most say Assegai is sluggish but I found it to be fast as well. I run it at pretty high PSI I think, 28-29. Thx
@@ShaneScrimager Ok cool thanks! That could explain it, because I ran the Assegai at like 24 at first and it was almost undoable, felt like riding through mud even when I was on hard pack and concrete. Happy riding to you!
I’m looking into a dhr ll in the front and a recon in the back I’m mostly a trail rider but a lot of pavement because I live in a town with not many trails could you tell me if that’s a good combo
yes! I'm seeing a lot more of that lately. the DHR II is a bit faster rolling than the DHF with the great braking qualities. the Recon is a fast rolling less aggressive tire and may not like real loose conditions. if that's an issue look at the Aggressor for the rear. if you primarily ride pavement I'd look at a more XC set, even the Recon front and back. cornering on the DHR is a bit more involved, like getting the bike in to that corner / berm and moving from the center tread to the side knobs. where the Recon has a more even tread across the tire. turning and cornering would be better for street rides but you'd have tread for the dirt days!
Hey! Awesome video, and I'm looking for some help. I'm looking for a tyre combo that is relatively fast rolling for the muddy but not super aggressive trails that I ride. I was thinking dhrii up front and aggressor rear, but I don't know much about this stuff. Any recommendations would be helpful!☺️ I'm on a hardrail btw, if that changes anything
what’s up Sam! Kona’s are coming off the line with Assegai fronts and DHR rear. fast rolling / muddy conditions, perfect fit. and you can run them in the dry and loose too. all around fast and grippy in the wet and dry. i can’t help but remember riding the High Roller up front for a bit, close to the DHR. i’d go DHF before i went back to the a High Roller. not giving the DHR a shot running up front. but that’s me. the Aggressor looks so darn close to the Dissector, and if that’s the case make sure you get a good compound, like the 3C Maxx Terra. it will have a great rolling speed but the material will lean more toward grip and acceleration! being on a hard tail, you’ll have all your energy and weight powering through that rear tire. if you wanted to take it a step further on the speed side, Ardent up front Aggressor rear. i 100% trust a 2.5 WT 3C Maxx Terra EXO up front and 2.4 WT 3C Maxx Terra or Grip EXO or DD rear. 2.3 rear for racing.
I run double assegai both 2.5 exo casing. As a rear tire I really notice the assegai is really slow rolling. Whenever I switch tire (to my aggressor) i notice it being way faster. Other than that, the grip on that thing is absolutely insane. Where I live it gets muddy in the fall and oh my goodness it does incredible. Mud doesn’t get stuck in there and it’s still fast. I change tires only in the summer because it gets dry in the summer where it live.
crazy! just had this conversation with a buddy. he's riding the Aggressor in the summer over a Dissector but says the mud clings to the Aggressor. i want to try the Assegai front and back, thank you!
What tires do you use in the summer, my main trail is right by my house, kinda dry hard pack…. Gets lot of foot traffic. I really don’t need somethings so aggressive
hello Timo! currently running 27.5 Syncros MD25's with 25mm inner width (DHF 2.5 WT front DHR2 2.4 rear), 29'r WTB KOM Tough's with 29mm inner (DHF 2.5 WT front Dissector 2.4 WT rear) 27.5 Roval Traverse's with 29mm inner (Assegai 2.5 WT front and DHR2 2.4 WT rear). the WTB KOM's take a beating, love em.
@@ShaneScrimager I see, I am running a mullet wheelset, 29" 30 mm rim width in the front and 27.5" 35 mm at the rear. Currently on Vittoria tyres, but my bike came with the classic DHF-DHR combo. Narrower wheels might explain why the tires feel very different for you, as the tyre profile will be different. Maxxis WT tyres are meant for 35 mm rims, but they are compatible with 30 mm. 25 mm wheel inner width usually make the tire roll a bit better. I guess it may affect Assegai more than DHF. Usually people feel that DHF rolls quite a bit faster. I have yet to test Assegai, so no first hand experience.
@@ShaneScrimager hi sir im building a dartmoor primal 29er, i dont know what tires im going to use on those bike coz im a newbie.I am 6'4 tall, im looking for tire i can use on light trail, muddy, and for road coz im using it for my work sir.
@@dag4325 hope all is well! that's a tough one, muddy conditions we'd want a super knobby great clearing tire. work / commuting we'd want a not so aggressive tire but better rolling. I would almost think the Ardent would be your best bet for light trail / muddy / road ride front and back! it's a do all tire from dry and loose to wet conditions.
Have to say, I dissagree with you regarding rolling speed of DHF & Assegai. I find the DHF is noticably faster in like for like compounds. Assegai is way too draggy for trail use
i hear you. trail's here are hard pack, hard over loose, rocks / ruts / roots in the summer. the few days i had after the rain, the trails were super tacky and prime. i need a full soggy winter on the Assegai to really round out max versatility vs the DHF.
@@ShaneScrimager no doubt assegai is the better option softer conditions. In terms of versatility though, i think DHF is a better option. I totally agree with assesment of the Dissector. I run a DHF dissector combo here in the UK for all except the worst conditions. I run Magic Mary, Hans Dampf for the mud
@@ShaneScrimager i ordered 2 HDR II 2.3 3c max terra for f/r and i am woried that the rear will wear quicky cuz i sometimes ride a litle on the streat to get to my "bike trail" its a hardtail cube attention sl 2021. I live in an extremly rocky/gravel area so thats why i got the befier tires and not an xc tire(schwalbe smart sams are bad....)
@@simesimicevic8713 i wouldn’t worry too much! it’s ripping berms and blasting through rocks with hard braking that really eats em up. riding pavement back to the trail head shouldn’t do much.
@@ShaneScrimager Dude I feel like I ride on a whole different level with the combo. Max grip dhr and terra dissector. Exo+ casing with some inserts out here in the pisgah.
I'm looking for a tire that can be used on both ends just to simplify things and balance the behavior front/back. Do you have any more thoughts on the Assegai as a rear tire? You say it's faster rolling than the DHF, but how do you think it compares to the DHR? What about braking/climbing?
right! i’ve had three more downhill / bike park days on the Assegai and my weekly riding. 100% front tire. i like a 2.5 in the front. for front and rear combo, adjust as needed to your area, 2.5 Assegai EXO front / 2.4 Assegai DD rear. i’d stick with 2.4 rear for trail, maximum contact for braking and climbing. i’ve had a 2.3 DHR and now on a 2.4, they’re different tires. 2.4 all the way for trail. another thing, i run 26psi in the front and 30 in the rear almost everywhere / every condition. the center knobs on the DHR are way more concentrated on braking and acceleration or pedaling out of that berm. i don’t think your going to lose acceleration with the Assegai in the rear, most likely you’re going to run a little more pressure = faster. climbing, can’t be an issue - i’d think better than the DHR. especially loose over hard / root / rock. braking, i think the Assegai will have better off camber braking since the knobs are equally spaced instead of the DHR channels, otherwise same performance. Minnar runs them front and back!!!
@@ShaneScrimager I'm not racing or trying to set records, I just like my tires to be confidence inspiring. My main concern for rolling resistance is wasted effort when climbing, and all of the early reviews of the Assegai (DH / MaxxGrip) mention that it's very slow and heavy, which sounds like hard work to me. But if you recon it's on par or better than the DHR-II for rolling efficiency (all else being equal) then it seems like Assegai front/back would be win/win.
Roger Scott you’ll be good my dude. i’m going to side with you on 100% confidence over race pace. i’m way sure it’s going to a faster set up with no sacrifice.
was looking for a trail’d out hard tail, a smashing trail assassin... look at the tire set up! woooot!!! 🤙🏻 🙌🏻 honzo review soon konaworld.com/honzo_esd.cfm
Yeah, tires for a “trail” bike should be good for the ups because trails go up and down. Keeping the tires light will help with climbing. The Assegai is too much tire for the way I ride. It’s a more gravity oriented tire.
hi Kurnik! agree, the trails around here serve up some nasty if you're looking for it. sidewall slashing rocky delight. and those trails are where the couple / few enduro races are held - that would make sense! but, i have had a handful of stretched sidewalls with EXO and i haven't had that problem with DD.
Went with Assegai front and DHR2 on my Slash. The grip is amazing but the rolling speed is absolute trash if you aren't bombing downhill. Going to try dissector in the rear to see how it goes.
i’ve been playing with some different brands, compounds and treads. you’re 100% right. there is a balance of speed and grip with both those set ups. but i’ve found some crazy fast pairs that absolutely rip, at the expense of grip…
@@ShaneScrimager curious to what you found. I am thinking to buy a 2nd wheelset for speed on my local easy trails for during the week and then swapping to my grippier set for weekend rides
@@andrewross219 specialized butcher 2.3 T9 front purgatory 2.3 T7 rear. mind blowing. put the DHF up front with purgatory rear, just as fast more grip in the loose over hard
Good review, however those are just like others have mentioned already, enduro/dh tires not really trail tires. Ardent, Recon, minion SS would fit the title better. These days many new trail bikes (not enduro) come equipped with DHF/DHR2 combo as manufacturers are noticing the trends to run burlier rubber, thats what a lot of customers are asking for anyway. Again, solid review and really good, useful information for someone shopping for new/replacement tires.
I wish Assegai was available in 3C MaxxGrip/EXO/TR so instead I run DHF in 3C MaxxGrip/EXO/TR for trail riding. Insane grip without too much drag. There also seem to be mixed reviews on Assegai in MaxxTerra(or non-MaxxGrip) version.
@@ShaneScrimager i love the rekon. Rekon up front and rekon race in the back for trail bike. Assagei up front on enduro bike and dissector in the back. But i could see the rekon back tire enduro for sure now that i think about it so my bad lol
Incorrect. Look at post 62 from this thread. Maxxis Tires debunks this rumor. You're welcome forums.mtbr.com/wheels-tires/maxxis-minion-dhf-vs-dhr-1103017.html#:~:text=Streetdoctor%20said%3A%2005%2D12%2D,rear%20than%20a%20DHR%20though.
@@creepylavalamp that was a great read! i think Drew’s comment was more of a funny than definition. that article makes me want to try a DHF front and rear. i don’t know if i’d try a DHR front and rear, you know it would have crazy braking on tap!!!
Has this dude listened to himself.... predictable after 6 years on the same tyre... I’d hope that’s the case unless you only rode the bike once in that 6 years!!
Dan! i'd have to introduce my Libra self. everything me is predictable!!! when i picked up the Assegai i had the hardest time not just getting another DHF...
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DHR II front and Dissector rear, fast, light and grippy - love it!
it's been raining here, i've got two solid days in the grease and muck. the Dissector has been ruling! braking and cornering haven't been an issue at all. i've seen more and more people running DHR 2's front and back, looks like one heck of a combo!
@@ShaneScrimager I know the feeling, its winter here in Denmark, and contrary to popular belief, winter means grey skies and non-stop rain -no snow, if we want some bike time, mud is the name of the game :) Im even considering trying Dissector front, Rekon rear when summer comes, should be fast/playful and somewhat grippy :) Happy trails! :)
@@TheVic256 happy trails my friend!
Thats what I run, works amazingly!
Threw on a Dissector in the rear last week. Got a random rain and it performed well in the mud. I threw on a DHRII up front today, but haven't ridden it yet.
Mint video. Appreciate the detailed breakdown of how each tire performed in every application👌🏼
Im currently running the new Forkaster evo F/R on my full sus trail bike as they are what came stock on my bike. They are super fast rolling but i have noticed a bit of slippage on rocky sections here on the trails in northern California. I still haven't ridden them in the rain on muddy conditions but what I've read they are supposed to hadle quite good in muddy terrain. Also i just purchased two dissectors 1-DD MaxxTerra, 2-DD MaxxGripp along with a DHRll DD MaxxTerra. I plan on running the DHRll on the Front and the dissector on the rear lol the reason i chose the DHRll was because spec wise on maxxis website it has slightly better cornering control and better braking traction compared to the DHF. The reasons i went with the DD version was for the better puncture resistance and a better peace of mind knowing i can hit any line and not worry about my tires puncturing/tearing especially on the rocky sections of the trails as i tend to ride my bike to the trails from my house.
you'll be happy with the jump in grip and cornering. hopefully happy enough with this over the rolling speed. you may feel you have to keep the bike up to speed / put in a few pedals in the beginning. i still think you'll benefit from the confidence and grip!
Just found this channel. How does this guy not have more subscribers? You got another subscriber today. Thanks for the great review.
love our mtb family and going to keep sharing everything my friend! happy trails my dude 🤙🏻
thanks for the video, I too have been a DHR/DHF guy fan for years. Been looking at going to the same Dissector/Assegai set up. Perfect timing in finding your channel. New sub here - thanks for the video
oh yeah!!! 🙌🏻🤙🏻
Can you found an assegai 29 2.4 ?
Really appreciate this review, my ass dissector should arrive by the weekend looking to speed up my Enduro bike and this looks very promising 👍
woot! yer gonna love it. let me know what you think!
I ride park, natural DH and loose rocky enduro trails, and natural trail in SoCal. From your surrounding it looks like you’re in SoCal as well. My Intense Carbine came with DHF/DHR and I feel it is very slow rolling compared to other tires I’ve used when it comes to natural or aggressive trail. My honest opinion, it has top notch puncture resistance, grip and durability on the other conditions I ride. Ultimately, I’m looking for a do it all tire that has speed, grip, puncture resistance, durability, and longevity. I’m sorta interested in running the “Assi” front and rear, but hear its even slower rolling and don’t want to blow cash on tires that will not produce what I expect of them. There seems to be quite a bit of indifference on what works here in SoCal as combo setup. Even here in your comments I see it as well. I’m very familiar with the Specialized tires and have had good results but as of lately they have gone the way of offering a gaggle of tires adding to the confusion. Then you have Continental, Schwbi, and Michelin that offer good comparable tires for the money. Like’d and Sub’d!
Jackson, appreciate the response. well said. i started running Tannus inserts and have completely changed the game. low pressure crazyness.
@ShaneScrimager I have considered inserts, but the additional rolling weight is my concern. To combat the additional weight, I would need to run CF rims. Unfortunately, it is something I am not fond of nor care to waste money on.
I’m riding Dissectors F/R and it’s grippy and fast. Works well up front!
nice! i’ve got a buddy running the Dissector up front with a Kenda Small Block till it gets dry and fluffy. he’s rolling pretty fast!
I love that combo as well. Super nimble and grippy 👍
Nice wrap on trail combo recommendations. Thanks.
absolutely! have an update video coming soon. been trying other combos and still come back to these four tires. please subscribe! more videos rolling out.
Great review. I am a Schwalbe guy but due to all the rain here in New England and how it’s made everything like ice (wet tree roots, rocks, etc) I felt like the magic Mary’s were getting pinged around as the big side knobs slipped off stuff. Switched back to maxxis Assegai/dhr 2 this week and it’s like a light switch. The bike settled down and I feel like it’s gripping as it should.
been researching new tires so this popped up :) good info though to those looking at more tires
for fun less talking dude and more talking even if voice over of action as you are showing those corners and climbs and downs etc...
sounds like a demo day!!! hang out / rip / talk about these tires! more rip’n less talk’n 🙌🏻
im just a gimpy ole man with a wallmart crate but its my physical therapy class. two assegai will help me on the loose stuff. thanx mate
i hear you! I’ve earned every one of these gray hairs. rip and shred my dude.
Awesome down to earth review mate. I'm running a DHR II Rear and DHF on my Trek Remedy currently but thinking something a little faster rolling for summer riding, looks like i'll have to give the Dissector Rear and Assegai Front a try.
shred'tastic summer combo! i'm loving the Assegai front. exactly, Dissector rear for the summer and keep the DHR2 in mind for the winter. rip and shred my friend!!!
@@taylorbrost funny, my bike shop said the Assegai rolled faster 😅
The Assegai 29 x 2.5 is my front and the Minion DHR II 29 x 2.4 is my rear set up. Great for the canyons in So. Cal. Equipment is a 2019 Specialized Turbo Levo Comp Carbon e-bike 29er
perfect set up for Santa Barbara, spent 15 years there bombing the canyons! 🤙🏻
My emtb came with assegai front and dissector rear. Quite the grippy setup.
i've noticed a few companies running these off the sales floor. excited to see it!!!
Super useful review, thanks
absolutely! i’m running Assegai front and Dissector rear on my DH now. love it! 🙌🏻 update video here, ua-cam.com/video/Mo2cf3Ju2H8/v-deo.html
thanks for this vid. definitely helps in my search for good tires! ✌️
Great content! Honestly, keep at it, add some action, and your subs are going to blow up (you got a new one here)!
thank you!!! for sure, i’ve stepped back from quantity and am more than ok waiting to put out more content when i’ve got something worth sharing + shredding! fox 38 / dhx2 upgrade in the works / 2021 Stumpjumper beat up and upgrade too! 🙌🏻
I'm running DHF 2.6 with Dissector 2.4 and like it.
that’s my Kona Process setup! went for it tonight and tried to stay off the brakes (as much as i could) trying to find where that setup will wash in this phloof over hard. it smashed and i found a whole new level of rail’n berms. great setup for sure 🤙🏻
My 2021 Nukeproof Scout came with Dissector on the rear and Assegai on the front stock. They are an excellent combination!
so good! I have to agree!!! my buddy is running the Dissector up front and the Rekon in the rear. i'm thinking it may be an ok summer set up but better when the dirt is tacky / lots of grip.
@@ShaneScrimager what pressures do you run?
@@matthewputnam7486 pretty much year round 26 front 30 rear. will adjust for super muddy or real loose over hard.
Thanks man!
The algorithm sent me here... I guess AI knows I'm looking for front and rear tires. Now I'm going to have to see what, and how you ride. My bike came stock with HighRoller IIs, front and back. The front has been ok but the rear is beyond greasy. It's slick as owl shit powering up rocky climbs. If it's wet I feel like I'm sprinting on my trainer going nowhere. I'm a 220lb ex gym rat so I need a fast roller but need more grip on the back. I run CushCore front and rear so I'm not worried about weight or pinch flats.
Thanks for giving me more info on my next choice!
hey Bo! i've run the HR2 as a summer tire years back, same thoughts - way loose! sounds like a DHR2 would be a good fit your trails / weather. the Dissector may have a little better grip than the HR2 but it wouldn't be night and day like the DHR2.
Great review. Cool music.
thanks Michael! appreciate it. a few more videos posted, a little more information on the tires there. been riding the Specialized Butcher front and Purgatory rear for trails and moved the Maxxis set up to my DH bike. more reviews in the works! 🙌🏻💥🤙🏻
Mate, gonna be honest, this comparison did my head in. You've used a Maxx Grip for the DHR2, but a Maxx Terra for the Dissector, doesn't really seem like apples vs apples. Would make sense any Maxx Terra is faster than a Maxx Grip. Also, first time I've heard the Assegai described as fast rolling, but that could just be given it was on the front only. For what it's worth I run DHR2 front and rear, but Maxx Terra up front, DC rear.
on a Maxx Grip DD Dissector now! wears just as fast, didn’t really notice too much difference other than the damping. cornering / braking / acceleration real close. split the casing twice today, going to the shop tomorrow …not sure if i’m going back to the DHR or 3rd Dissector! will add a video and the terrain soon. i’m running the Assegai up front Dissector rear for Enduro / Downhill
I’m having Schwalbe Nobby Nic 27.5x2.4 front and rear. I’m totally shredding my trail bike on a pretty rough terrain. Only downside is tires, as they quite often doesn’t give me a solid grip. I’m really impressed by your review and considering to buy Assegai front 27.5x2.5 and DHR II rear 27.5x2.4. So, will those tire width be perfect combo? Cheers,✌🏼
what’s up George! perfect combo, EXO+ Maxx Terra or DD Maxx Terra. they’re just a bit slower but sounds like you have some chunky trails. the better grip will pay for the bit slower rolling. play with air pressure too, fine tune. i’m 26psi front and 28psi rear, perfect for the chunk here. maybe a bit high on the pressure bits it’s to make up for the rolling 🤙🏻 let me know
Awesome insight. I ran a Assegai front (Exo+, Maxxterra) and dissector rear (exo, maxxterra) for most of the fall/winter last year. I loved that combo it was so easy to put miles on it and still be aggressive. EXO is unacceptable for anything but xc though, I have permanently deformed 4 (3 aggressor, 1 dissector) casings from off camber landings so the dissector does need a DD casing for me to buy it again. What is your take on the HR2? I've been running a 2.5 assegai front/2.5 HR2 rear for most of the summer and that is my all time favorite tire combination, but I have a 2.4 DHR2 on the way (I have ridden it before) as I feel it has superior wet braking traction to the HR2 going into the fall/winter months.
agree on the EXO, i sliced my Dissector on a not too bad rock landing. DD would have ate it up. LOL! same, i've stretched many sidewalls get'n loose!!! i ran a High Roller in the front for years on my downhill bike (DHR in the rear), bought my 1st DHF (2012?) and the HR2 still had plenty of tread so i threw it on the rear. what was i doing running that as a front tire!!! ripping rear tire in the summer for sure. but as soon as it got wet it was all over! i was almost going with the HR2 when i picked up my 1st Dissector for the summer, i'm glad i went with the Dissector but the HR2 has earned summer duty for sure. DHR2 for fall / winter all the way, darn good tire.
So isit better for dissector rear to be exo or exo+ how about 3c
Great content. Nice and crisp.
Awesome review brotha. I have an Assegai up front and just bought the Dissector for my rear. Is the EXO strong enough? Any issues? How is durabilty wear wise?
what’s up Raptor! the only thing i’ve found eats EXO and really any tire, is rim hits and sidewall slashes. if you’re in super rocky / rooty conditions and slamming your rim on rocks and roots, they won’t last long. flow trails and tame rock sections - you’re all good my dude. 🤙🏻
@@ShaneScrimager thanks brotha man. Pretty wide range of terrain I ride, so let's see what happens. My assegai up front is exo+ and I love it, so hope exo is still good enough.
I liked your explanations on all the set ups and your real world feel of each of them. I've been eyeing up the assegai up front and dissector rear and I think you cleared it up for me.
Also what is that orange bike you showed off first? I love the looks of it!
you’ll love it!!! that’s my freeride bike, Scott Voltage FR170. such a beast and fast as hell
How do you fit the bikes with the bed rack?! I have a bed rack and my rear tire doesn’t fit as the cross bars on the rack hit the tire.
what’s up Jesus! my truck has a 6’6” bed and i’ve pushed my tent almost all the way to the cab. i start left to right with a kind of angle to get them in. like a 45 degree angle. i can fit 5 no problem. rear tire doesn’t fit? i have plenty of clearance. you may need a higher rack.
I tried Assegai 2.6 on both front and rear. Man I felt so good on downhills but felt completely drained after 😂
ha! always thought about trying the two together!
GREAT review. I have an aggressor 27.5 2.5 in the back, which would u prefer to be in the front?
what's up Rohan! great choice, i always start with lower knobs = speed focused (like the Aggressor) vs higher knobs (DHF / DHR 2) that lean toward maximum traction. the Rekon in a 2.5 or even 2.6 would match the speed and profile of the Aggressor but may limit versatility (on our trails here). i think the Rekon would be an amazing front tire for my home town trails in Santa Barbara. lots of loose over hard, shale, rocky, same sweet dirt all year long. i'm in Grass Valley now where the dirt is magic and varies from summer blown out loose over hard / root / rocky to winter magic / gummy / sticky / wet root and rock. i need more traction to bite through the phloof / loose / gummy dirt. if that's the case, go Assegai!!! really depends on what trails you ride / if you travel to different conditions / if you have seasons that really change up the dirt. i think you'd be happier with the Assegai, a trail / DH focused tire that will rail berms, smash turns, point that thing through anything and still be a great rolling tire. if you are more XC / Trail focused, the Rekon will shine.
Shane Scrimager Thanks👍🏽!
Im thinking about the dissector/assegai combo next for my enduro bike... want something a bit faster rolling but still plenty of traction compared to my michelin wild enduro’s
Kona’s are coming off the line with Assegai front and DHR rears. i’m still rocking my Dissector in the rear and have been in some grease from the recent rains. it’s holding up, i keep saying i’m throwing a DHR on for the winter but haven’t had a reason to take the Dissector off. think you’ll be happy with the Dissector / Assegai combo, especially on an enduro rig!
@@ShaneScrimager thats great! Thanks for your reply!
Great insight and facts! If you couldn't have assguy for front lol and could only pick between DHF or DHR for front, which would you pick? I think Greg.M, won a cup with DHR ii F & R too...but I'm curious your opinion
i saw that! it was soooo muddy. if i did go DHR front and back it would be a 2.5 WT up front and 2.4 (not WT) in the rear. but, riding in the mud here ruins most trails (i don't ever really get to ride in real mud) and the trails that can handle the rain are more rock / root / shale so i stick with the DHF. i still have the DHF on one trail bike and my downhill bike. the DHF is such a great tire!
on my enduro I love Assegai and Dhr2/Dissector. Trail bike I love DHR2 front and Dissector rear. My biggest complaint is the fast wear and puncture prone Dissector in both EXO and EXO plus. IMHO a perfect Dissector would be DC compound in EXO+ which they don't make...smh
Gonger!!! after two punctures in the channel of the Dissector, i finally got one in the channel of the DHF 1 lap before the race... have an Assegai on there now hoping that channel knob will help. I may go back to the DHR when this Dissector is done. but man, Assegai front Dissector rear has been soooo good at Northstar!!!
Hello. I'm little bit surprised. Never heard that Assegai is faster than DHF. Everyones who I was asking said that assegai is kind of anhor but with much more grip than DHF. And what they was surprised. It clears nice from mud. But when You go really fast.
in the last year i've been playing with compounds, EXO, EXO+, DD, DH. i started with just swapping the DHF with the Assegai and left the rear. I noticed it. but the trails here are mostly hard pack, loose over hard, rocks and roots. when we get rain or when the dirt is prime, everything feels a little slower. i'll always love the DHF and DHR but i did just swap out my DHF on the race bike to a Assegai! here's the reason why, ua-cam.com/video/Mo2cf3Ju2H8/v-deo.html
Is DHF front and Dissector rear a good combo? Planning to try this, because yesterday i got a flat tire..
i've been running that combo for over a year and love it. i'd say the combo wants high speed and chunky trails with loose conditions. otherwise they may be adding a little drag and you could run a not so aggressive tread pattern for better rolling.
would you prefer an assegai exo+
i haven't seen it in EXO+ at the shop. i haven't had any issues with EXO up front over the years!
I've been trying to figure the same thing out, what's they best for non park days. Rolling resistance then grip. I've been starting to play outside the maxxis lineup and going to try out some wtb stuff. Also curious about semislicks for the rear.
Current setup is a ardent rear and ethirteen trs up front. The trs bites up front but is a slow roller. Ardent I have had zero issues with.
WTB is here in town! will have a tire discussion soon. amazing tires and deserving comparison. the Ardent is a great everything tire for sure. haven’t had a chance to try any ethirteens.
But Assegai has limited offer for 27.5 and what is available is heavy, more than 1kg in the most cases, then I am worried about uphill, climbing will be hard, dying hard 🤔, what is your feeling, experience ?
maybe a little exhausting but you’ll have tons of grip!!!
@@ShaneScrimager no doubt about grip, maybe is offering more than I need for my trips, after climb no energy to hold bike but then Assegai will take over steering 😉, maybe will consider still Nobby Nic, thanks
Solid review of solid choices. Was a DHR/DHF rider for a long time like you. I was happy with the DHF but never made piece with how slowly the DHR rolled.
The Assegai has replaced the DHF for me and at this point I can't imagine putting a different 2.5 front tire on a bike I own. Maybe a mud spike if conditions called for it?
I didn't notice as much of a rolling-speed advantage over a DHF, but what I did notice was significantly better braking traction along with stellar cornering grip at all lean angles. I LOVE the DHF but it has put me on my face a few times when I got lazy and didn't initiate a flatter corner with the bike leaned over far enough. Assegai makes this a non-issue and if it has a lower limit for outright grip than the DHF in the turns it's above my pay grade to find it. Bonus is that I put 500+ miles on one without any real decline in performance.
I'm more conflicted on the Dissector. I agree that the Dissector is dramatically faster-rolling than the DHR. I also noticed a bit less braking bite (although some of that probably just cause we're rolling faster!). I didn't have the same issues climbing but would make sense it has bit less bite there too. Cornering grip when the knobs were fresh was on par with the DHR (at least for me). Bottom line is that for the first 100 miles I was over the moon.
My two reservations re: the Dissector are 1) performance in the wet (no experience) and 2) durability. The knobs on the (3c exo+ maxterra) Dissector I bought undercut significantly faster than the knobs on other Maxxis tires including a DHRII (with identical casing and compounds) or Aggressor (not a fan of this tire) that I've run in the past. On top of that, I managed to puncture (not snakebite) the casing. I've never punctured a DHR or Aggressor in that manner before. Could have been a fluke, but I think the large open channel between the side knobs and the center tread makes it more vulnerable than other patterns with more tightly spaced and transitional knobs.
The jury is still out, but I'd be really excited to try the Dissector with a dual-compound rubber (to help the cornering knobs hold up better) and double down casing (to protect that channel without any knobs). I don't think this combo exists but it might be the golden ticket if that harder compound doesn't give up too much grip. Would have to try to know!
100% i slammed a rock landing and split the casing at the rim AND in the channel between the tread! proper sealant blowout, everywhere... i agree, that open channel on the Dissector may have been the reason. it's going be hard to sideline the DHF but the Assegai has me convinced it's a keeper. going to put the Dissector to the test this winter, we'll have to compare notes. durability - you, me and a buddy Brian all noticed the quick wear on the Dissector. i'd like to try a dual compound double down as well, hurry up with that DD option Maxxis!!!
Hi, what pressure do you run your tires, especially the Assegai? I’m wondering if that is affecting your rolling speed. Most say Assegai is sluggish but I found it to be fast as well. I run it at pretty high PSI I think, 28-29. Thx
same! 26 to 28 in the front and 30 back
@@ShaneScrimager Ok cool thanks! That could explain it, because I ran the Assegai at like 24 at first and it was almost undoable, felt like riding through mud even when I was on hard pack and concrete. Happy riding to you!
@@mtbjoser 🤣 i bet!!! thank you, to you as well! 🤙🏻
@@ShaneScrimager Right on!
I’m looking into a dhr ll in the front and a recon in the back I’m mostly a trail rider but a lot of pavement because I live in a town with not many trails could you tell me if that’s a good combo
yes! I'm seeing a lot more of that lately. the DHR II is a bit faster rolling than the DHF with the great braking qualities. the Recon is a fast rolling less aggressive tire and may not like real loose conditions. if that's an issue look at the Aggressor for the rear. if you primarily ride pavement I'd look at a more XC set, even the Recon front and back. cornering on the DHR is a bit more involved, like getting the bike in to that corner / berm and moving from the center tread to the side knobs. where the Recon has a more even tread across the tire. turning and cornering would be better for street rides but you'd have tread for the dirt days!
@@ShaneScrimager so I’ve done more research and to me it sounds like that a dhr ll in front and a dissector rear is a very good combo is that true?
@@PsPro-ty9jb absolutely, both aggressive tread and both on the faster rolling side. i'm on my 2nd Dissector rear and happy with it.
@@ShaneScrimager ok thank you so much for the feedback
Hey! Awesome video, and I'm looking for some help. I'm looking for a tyre combo that is relatively fast rolling for the muddy but not super aggressive trails that I ride. I was thinking dhrii up front and aggressor rear, but I don't know much about this stuff. Any recommendations would be helpful!☺️
I'm on a hardrail btw, if that changes anything
what’s up Sam! Kona’s are coming off the line with Assegai fronts and DHR rear. fast rolling / muddy conditions, perfect fit. and you can run them in the dry and loose too. all around fast and grippy in the wet and dry. i can’t help but remember riding the High Roller up front for a bit, close to the DHR. i’d go DHF before i went back to the a High Roller. not giving the DHR a shot running up front. but that’s me. the Aggressor looks so darn close to the Dissector, and if that’s the case make sure you get a good compound, like the 3C Maxx Terra. it will have a great rolling speed but the material will lean more toward grip and acceleration! being on a hard tail, you’ll have all your energy and weight powering through that rear tire. if you wanted to take it a step further on the speed side, Ardent up front Aggressor rear. i 100% trust a 2.5 WT 3C Maxx Terra EXO up front and 2.4 WT 3C Maxx Terra or Grip EXO or DD rear. 2.3 rear for racing.
I run double assegai both 2.5 exo casing. As a rear tire I really notice the assegai is really slow rolling. Whenever I switch tire (to my aggressor) i notice it being way faster. Other than that, the grip on that thing is absolutely insane. Where I live it gets muddy in the fall and oh my goodness it does incredible. Mud doesn’t get stuck in there and it’s still fast. I change tires only in the summer because it gets dry in the summer where it live.
crazy! just had this conversation with a buddy. he's riding the Aggressor in the summer over a Dissector but says the mud clings to the Aggressor. i want to try the Assegai front and back, thank you!
@@ShaneScrimager the reason why i dont use it in the fall
What tires do you use in the summer, my main trail is right by my house, kinda dry hard pack…. Gets lot of foot traffic. I really don’t need somethings so aggressive
Very interesting results you got there, I'd even say controversial. What is the width of rims you used?
hello Timo! currently running 27.5 Syncros MD25's with 25mm inner width (DHF 2.5 WT front DHR2 2.4 rear), 29'r WTB KOM Tough's with 29mm inner (DHF 2.5 WT front Dissector 2.4 WT rear) 27.5 Roval Traverse's with 29mm inner (Assegai 2.5 WT front and DHR2 2.4 WT rear). the WTB KOM's take a beating, love em.
@@ShaneScrimager I see, I am running a mullet wheelset, 29" 30 mm rim width in the front and 27.5" 35 mm at the rear. Currently on Vittoria tyres, but my bike came with the classic DHF-DHR combo.
Narrower wheels might explain why the tires feel very different for you, as the tyre profile will be different. Maxxis WT tyres are meant for 35 mm rims, but they are compatible with 30 mm. 25 mm wheel inner width usually make the tire roll a bit better.
I guess it may affect Assegai more than DHF. Usually people feel that DHF rolls quite a bit faster. I have yet to test Assegai, so no first hand experience.
@@tsalesto my downhill bike is still DHF and DHR2, i don't know if i'll be changing that anytime soon!
@@ShaneScrimager hi sir im building a dartmoor primal 29er, i dont know what tires im going to use on those bike coz im a newbie.I am 6'4 tall, im looking for tire i can use on light trail, muddy, and for road coz im using it for my work sir.
@@dag4325 hope all is well! that's a tough one, muddy conditions we'd want a super knobby great clearing tire. work / commuting we'd want a not so aggressive tire but better rolling. I would almost think the Ardent would be your best bet for light trail / muddy / road ride front and back! it's a do all tire from dry and loose to wet conditions.
Have to say, I dissagree with you regarding rolling speed of DHF & Assegai. I find the DHF is noticably faster in like for like compounds. Assegai is way too draggy for trail use
i hear you. trail's here are hard pack, hard over loose, rocks / ruts / roots in the summer. the few days i had after the rain, the trails were super tacky and prime. i need a full soggy winter on the Assegai to really round out max versatility vs the DHF.
@@ShaneScrimager no doubt assegai is the better option softer conditions. In terms of versatility though, i think DHF is a better option. I totally agree with assesment of the Dissector. I run a DHF dissector combo here in the UK for all except the worst conditions. I run Magic Mary, Hans Dampf for the mud
@@trickyrickymtb5622 i ran my Magic Mary's till the sidewalls were bleeding and the tread was a mess. great tire!!!
Agreed.
What casing on that combo are you running and tire width?
DH bike DHF 2.5 WT EXO 3C maxx terra / DHR2 2.4 EXO 3C maxx terra DD, Trail Bike DHF 2.5 WT EXO+ 3C maxx terra / Dissector 2.4 WT EXO 3C maxx terra, Enduro bike Assegai 2.5 WT EXO 3C maxx terra / DHR2 2.4 WT 3C maxx grip DD!
@@ShaneScrimager i ordered 2 HDR II 2.3 3c max terra for f/r and i am woried that the rear will wear quicky cuz i sometimes ride a litle on the streat to get to my "bike trail" its a hardtail cube attention sl 2021. I live in an extremly rocky/gravel area so thats why i got the befier tires and not an xc tire(schwalbe smart sams are bad....)
@@simesimicevic8713 i wouldn’t worry too much! it’s ripping berms and blasting through rocks with hard braking that really eats em up. riding pavement back to the trail head shouldn’t do much.
Dhr2 front and dissector rear 🤙 Also maybe it’s terrain dependent but I found the assegai to be much slower rolling than the dhf.
i’ve seen it a few times now! aaaand the peeps em running that setup were faaaaaast 🙌🏻
@@ShaneScrimager Dude I feel like I ride on a whole different level with the combo. Max grip dhr and terra dissector. Exo+ casing with some inserts out here in the pisgah.
@@MrChadLedford i need to get out yer way!
@@ShaneScrimager Look me up if you do. It’s so sweet. I have been here 2 years and can’t get enough.
I'm looking for a tire that can be used on both ends just to simplify things and balance the behavior front/back. Do you have any more thoughts on the Assegai as a rear tire? You say it's faster rolling than the DHF, but how do you think it compares to the DHR? What about braking/climbing?
right! i’ve had three more downhill / bike park days on the Assegai and my weekly riding. 100% front tire. i like a 2.5 in the front. for front and rear combo, adjust as needed to your area, 2.5 Assegai EXO front / 2.4 Assegai DD rear. i’d stick with 2.4 rear for trail, maximum contact for braking and climbing. i’ve had a 2.3 DHR and now on a 2.4, they’re different tires. 2.4 all the way for trail. another thing, i run 26psi in the front and 30 in the rear almost everywhere / every condition. the center knobs on the DHR are way more concentrated on braking and acceleration or pedaling out of that berm. i don’t think your going to lose acceleration with the Assegai in the rear, most likely you’re going to run a little more pressure = faster. climbing, can’t be an issue - i’d think better than the DHR. especially loose over hard / root / rock. braking, i think the Assegai will have better off camber braking since the knobs are equally spaced instead of the DHR channels, otherwise same performance. Minnar runs them front and back!!!
@@ShaneScrimager I'm not racing or trying to set records, I just like my tires to be confidence inspiring. My main concern for rolling resistance is wasted effort when climbing, and all of the early reviews of the Assegai (DH / MaxxGrip) mention that it's very slow and heavy, which sounds like hard work to me. But if you recon it's on par or better than the DHR-II for rolling efficiency (all else being equal) then it seems like Assegai front/back would be win/win.
Roger Scott you’ll be good my dude. i’m going to side with you on 100% confidence over race pace. i’m way sure it’s going to a faster set up with no sacrifice.
was looking for a trail’d out hard tail, a smashing trail assassin... look at the tire set up! woooot!!! 🤙🏻 🙌🏻 honzo review soon konaworld.com/honzo_esd.cfm
You dont need speed if you're got.gravity but if you dont habe gravity you need a fast tyre and these tyres are slow on the ups
agree, they are a bit much for normal trail riding. have an update video in the works for trail tires.
Yeah, tires for a “trail” bike should be good for the ups because trails go up and down. Keeping the tires light will help with climbing. The Assegai is too much tire for the way I ride. It’s a more gravity oriented tire.
Confused by word trail? Review is more enduro oriented from my point of view, specialiy if we are speaking about DD tyres?
hi Kurnik! agree, the trails around here serve up some nasty if you're looking for it. sidewall slashing rocky delight. and those trails are where the couple / few enduro races are held - that would make sense! but, i have had a handful of stretched sidewalls with EXO and i haven't had that problem with DD.
Went with Assegai front and DHR2 on my Slash. The grip is amazing but the rolling speed is absolute trash if you aren't bombing downhill.
Going to try dissector in the rear to see how it goes.
i’ve been playing with some different brands, compounds and treads. you’re 100% right. there is a balance of speed and grip with both those set ups. but i’ve found some crazy fast pairs that absolutely rip, at the expense of grip…
@@ShaneScrimager curious to what you found. I am thinking to buy a 2nd wheelset for speed on my local easy trails for during the week and then swapping to my grippier set for weekend rides
@@andrewross219 specialized butcher 2.3 T9 front purgatory 2.3 T7 rear. mind blowing. put the DHF up front with purgatory rear, just as fast more grip in the loose over hard
Good review, however those are just like others have mentioned already, enduro/dh tires not really trail tires. Ardent, Recon, minion SS would fit the title better. These days many new trail bikes (not enduro) come equipped with DHF/DHR2 combo as manufacturers are noticing the trends to run burlier rubber, thats what a lot of customers are asking for anyway.
Again, solid review and really good, useful information for someone shopping for new/replacement tires.
I wish Assegai was available in 3C MaxxGrip/EXO/TR so instead I run DHF in 3C MaxxGrip/EXO/TR for trail riding. Insane grip without too much drag. There also seem to be mixed reviews on Assegai in MaxxTerra(or non-MaxxGrip) version.
i’d run it in my downhill / race bike if they did!
Assegai feels much slower rolling to me on climbs than dhf.
Dissector front, Aggressor Rear. Really fast with good grip.
i almost picked up an Aggressor rear! good to hear you like it. i've been hearing more and more people running the Dissector up front!
@@ShaneScrimagernice! buy the 2.5 version if you need more grip in wet condition. 2.3 is a dry to loamy tire.
Dhr2 is a front tire for trail bikes. Rekon is a trail tire not enduro
i’ve seen the DHR2 and Dissector up front. my buddy from Santa Cruz Bikes swears by the Rekon rear for DH and Enduro, fast rolling with enough grip!
@@ShaneScrimager i love the rekon. Rekon up front and rekon race in the back for trail bike. Assagei up front on enduro bike and dissector in the back. But i could see the rekon back tire enduro for sure now that i think about it so my bad lol
F is for Freeride and R is for Race. You're welcome.
my Scott Voltage FR170 agrees!
Incorrect. Look at post 62 from this thread. Maxxis Tires debunks this rumor. You're welcome
forums.mtbr.com/wheels-tires/maxxis-minion-dhf-vs-dhr-1103017.html#:~:text=Streetdoctor%20said%3A%2005%2D12%2D,rear%20than%20a%20DHR%20though.
@@creepylavalamp that was a great read! i think Drew’s comment was more of a funny than definition. that article makes me want to try a DHF front and rear. i don’t know if i’d try a DHR front and rear, you know it would have crazy braking on tap!!!
Has this dude listened to himself.... predictable after 6 years on the same tyre... I’d hope that’s the case unless you only rode the bike once in that 6 years!!
Dan! i'd have to introduce my Libra self. everything me is predictable!!! when i picked up the Assegai i had the hardest time not just getting another DHF...
Keep talking
lol, i’m always trying to talk less! front tire shoot out / rear tire shoot out soon.