For the bug jars; As with many weird items and locations in game, the art team was VERY separate from the development team, so the art team had this big extravagant quest for the bug jars but the dev team, already pressed for time as is, shot it down. The jars and a couple locations were left in since there was not much point in taking them out as it was a relatively last minute addition. That's why Skyrim feels unfinished in alot of areas, simply the art team drastically out pacing the actual development.
Yup, this is typical in the industry to a degree. Design teams early in the dev cycle produce a bunch of amazing concepts that only some of makes it into the end product. You add stuff, it breaks other stuff, you fix it, then the publisher tells you to put the game out already. The dream dies in implementation. Sad reality of game design and the creative process in general. At least concept art is cool.
@@WK-47Yup. And Bethesda games suffer from that severely. They have FANTASTIC concepts. But never give those time to bake. We can only hope Bethesda learned from Skyrim, FO4 and Fo76. Supposedly the next TES has been in the works for 4-5 years, hopefully it's true because a dev team and art team having all the time and funding they need under Bethesda could make an amazing game. Given Bethesda's track record though, I highly doubt it. Probably another game where modders finish it.
@@John.McMillanthat's my hope too. I kind of expect it to be true, since Todd thinks this is his last Elder Scrolls. It's likely he'll try to go out with a bang. Like how the original team treated Daggerfall as a kind of magnum opus, TES 6 will be that for Todd's team.
Mystara could be another name for Noctural, the daedric prince of shadows, mysteries, and oddly enough, charity. She's a prince who doesn't care for praise so it could make sense that she created an alias that allows her to secretly aid the destitute and it would make sense for them to assume she's a divine rather than a daedric prince. I'm not claiming this is cannon lore, just a rough hypothesis with scattered backing. Perhaps that's why the gift of charity is a speech buff, which is part of the thief skill tree?
I saw someone critique the mic quality but imo quality is perfectly fine. The delivery, the script, the info - all well done man. I hope I'm able to get my videos to your quality soon!
It's a fair critique to make; the audio quality is not ideal. However, it's not bad enough to take me out of the video. I agree that the rest of the video is good enough to counteract it.
I'm surprised that there wasn't the "fallout and elderscrolls happen in the same world" theory now it goes against every bit of elderscrolls lore but the presence of Nirnroot in fallout 4 is odd (To be fair Pete Hines debunked this theory)
Thought the same thing. I looked around for icebergs and some were either way too big with filler or too small. This one seemed pretty good. But yeah I definitely expect a nirnroot or sweet roll to show up in Starfield. 👍
Truth be told: This same universe thing is something that Bethesda is trying to force and to support that I only know the nirnroot in The Prydwym, the Vaut-Tech door on Doom Eternal and one loose comment from Todd during an interview where he told about Starfield, but yet before name the "space RPG" that they were developing from years them. For me it's only looks like something that Todd is fishing just to create hype over Bethesda's games lores and some pure fan-services than something that can really take body. IMHO: If Bethesda directly link the story of Starfield's Earth History, inserting all Fallout own timeline on the new game, or somehow make a link between the new game with the Dwemers (that are probably an advanced spacefaring race), or something like that, them I will believe that all this games are linked. Until them, it's all only fan service
Its called easter eggs. For example Borderlands 2 has a minecraft EE. But they arent in the same universe. And i swear todd howard literally said they are two seperate universes before. The only logical way the two could be in the same universe is if one of fallouts vaults had a simulation. The sim. "The elder scrolls" you spend your entire existance playing a fictional character. If anything the sim we see in fallout 3 proves people can be in a sim and not know it. Except for that one old lady of course and the guy running the show. BUT if it was set up for thousands and thousands of people in a vault it suddenly makes sense. As does the lack of children in the games minus skyrim. Its also worth noting that when someone achieves chim the become aware of the "sim" "dream" and can do anything. Which is exactly what dr braun says in memory lane or whatever the sim was called lol
@@johnblackrose This simulation theory do tons of sense. It's like Skyrim got too many ports and it could end as getting ports both for the dystopian future of Fallout (that would be a parallel universe of Real Life) or, if Starfield happens on our universe, it would have the billionth port of the Skyrim and it would be running (in both cases) in a simulation lol
Wyverns are really just a type of dragon. So it doesn't really matter if they have 4 legs and wings or two legs and a set of wings that can act like legs unless there are various types of dragon or dragon-like creatures in the current setting. This "oh these dragons are really wyverns" thing people do is do silly. A dragon is whatever the creator or creators of a series say it is.
18:00 The Thalmor rose after the Oblivion Crisis claiming to be the ones that stopped it, so the altmer defending the crystal tower to the last man and the thalmor wanting to deactivate them doesn't conflict
I have one for you. Cadwell (or the person he now serves) In Elder Scrolls Online Creates a DragonBreak: When you Beat the main Storyline in ESO, Cadwell offers you a chance to go to the next alliance area. There are like 1 or 2 Quest that suggest that some events are taking place parallel to each other in the different Alliances, but you couldent't be in 2 places at the same time unless a dragon break had or is occurring.
Yeah but now it sucks that they just let you go to each alliance from the get go now to allure more casual players, i really liked cadwell and eso in the old days
@@scott1098 it not only ruins Cadwell's Silver and Cadwell's Gold, but it also kind of flies in the face of the notion that these Alliances are at war. When you are fighting an all out hot war with another nation, you don't have open borders with that nation. That would be absolute suicide.
Just got recommended this video by the algorithm god. Enjoyed it overall and you definitely earned a sub, but can't help noticing a few errors and omissions. 16:36 That exact sentence you quoted is also said by Ancano when the Dragonborn confronts him at the climax of the quest The Eye of Magnus. So yeah, just like many Kirkbride's work or comments, this Commentary is partially confirmed by the game, and itself stands in a gray area in canonicity. 18:00 The Thalmor (aka the Third Dominion) only came into power after the Oblivion Crisis. So the Altmers that defended the Crystal Tower were very unlikely to be associated with the Thalmor. A better example of what the Thalmor is likely to do to a Tower happened during the Great War. As revealed in Legends, the Thalmor army led by Lord Naarifin was sacrificing humans to the Daedra at the White-Gold Tower. They were so occupied with the sacrificial rituals that they did not even organize proper defense of the Imperial City and got their asses kicked by the counter attack of the Imperial Legions. 22:18 Not sure if the Lefthanded Elves were originated from Summerset. Their origin and ending was pretty much a mystery, though there are speculations that the Maomer (Sea Elves) were somehow related to the Lefthanded Elves. The iceberg theory might be talking about this. 24:14 Yeah, it is confirmed in lore by The Real Barenziah, Part III. 34:48 I think this might be related to one of the lines Heimskyr say "I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you." It is once again a direct quote from Kirkbride's work, in which he talks about how Talos changed Cyrodiil from dense jungle to temperate climate using his Chim power. 38:37 If you believe in the Tower Theory, many mainline games suddenly have a different layer of meaning. In every mainline game, the player seems to beat the big baddie and save the world. But in most of them, one Tower Stone gets destroyed and the player might be actually helping with the destruction of Tamrial. Daggerfall: Mantella and the Brass Tower. Morrowind: Lorkhan's Heart and Red Tower. Oblivion: Amulet of Kings and White-Gold Tower. Skyrim might be an outlier as we do not know what the Cave is, but from Esbern's monologue when interpreting the Alduin Wall "When the Snow Tower lies sundered, kingless, bleeding", it does not sound good and the Cave might have been destroyed. The only exception seems to be Arena. So if this pattern continues, TES6 might as well be the last Elder Scroll game as the Covenant finally gets "destroyed", deactivating the Adamantine Tower the final tower that keeps Tamriel going.
The amount of times the wyvern thing has come up is incredible, the number of legs on a dragon doesn't matter, it's about if it spits fire or other "elementals magic" or if it spits venom, the wyvern is a type of dragon anyways. Also, since in the elder scrolls dragons are vastly different on how they use their magic it doesn't really apply anyways, I don't understand the obsession with the number of legs. Great video btw, didn't mean anything with this comment, just had to vent a little.
The Skyrim civil war matches a strong, violent and hateful rivalry in Brazilian football that is the "Grenal", or Gremio vs Internacional. Gremio wears a blue, black and white uniform and Internacional a red and white. This came from the part of the Gaucho-Culture (the meaning of the colors) that flourished in the days of Uruguay independence from Brazil, where there were two parties, Colorados (red and white banners) and Blancos (white, blue and black banners). Colorados were at favor of keeping loyalty or, at least, good relations with the Brazilian Empire... while the Blancos were a kind of Gaucho supremacists that wanted to create an ultimate Gaucho country joining Argentina. Well... in RL the Colorados won the civil war (and Brazil probably is the only country in History that fought to help part of it's own territory to gain independence from itself lol, but forget about that in this metaphor), the Provincia Cisplatina (the, by then, name of Uruguay as Brazilian Province) became Uruguay, not part of Argentina, and kept good relations with Brazil until this day. Don't know if it is a coincidence that the Empire loyalists in Skyrim wear red and the separatists blue and the overall Skyrim's Nordlike-fantasy is so much alike the Gaucho culture in Brazil or if Bethesda took some inspiration... but... yet... playing the civil war in Skyrim give me the feeling of being part of an ultras war, as it had an smaller scale compared with some more dedicated war games as Mount & Blade or some massive strategic games as Total War. Cheers!
This was the first video of your channel that I stumbled upon, and I absolutely need to say that I enjoyed it IMMENSELY, all of the way through. Very few people on here are able to capture and hold my attention so thoroughly, especially on my first interaction with them. I _will_ often subscribe to new channels I find while I'm watching the first videos of theirs (that I happen to come across), because I like their vibes or whatever and can definitely see myself coming back to their channels later on, and I end up clicking off a few minutes in in most cases, and maybe around halfway through for a small handful of channels who just very obviously hit above the bar for me, and what I like to enjoy-but I really want to emphasize how extraordinary of a category that puts you in for me. Not once did my wandering mind even think about stopping part of the way through the video, literally not a single time. I found you to be so genuine, your sense of humor was perfectly on point (for me and my cheesy taste lol), and you were just such a breath of fresh air to listen to in so many other ways that I simply loved watching this all of the way through. Which of course made me happily subscribe to your channel! And on one last sappy note, your humility, and the sense of deep appreciation you displayed throughout that video for anyone and everyone who was taking the time to enjoy what you made, is extremely admirable to me, and went a hell of a long way in demonstrating that you're more than worthy of people building a community around you and your work here.
Wow that is genuinely one of the nicest comments I’ve ever received hands down. You’ve made my day man. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment this. I super appreciate it. I hope you have a great day.
Just waiting for Starfield so I can either throw out or expand my theory that the odd looking space tech in the trailer is actually the Tower/Wheel/Thing Lorkan saw that made him create mortality.
Morrowind was my start into loving playing games so much, but Oblivion reinforced it massively. I can't get enough of lore or of other people's interpretations of it. This was a great video, thank you for making it! I don't mind the mic. If you don't have the greatest audio editing software, I'd be happy to see if there was anything I could do to reduce reverb. I think it's all a matter of preference, though. I'm glad youtube recommended this to me!
Hey thanks for watching, appreciate it. Yeah I’m getting a new mic but my setup is also in a very big space, so the sound travels around the room. Currently working on that situation lol. Thanks for watching!
I said this to an elder scrolls lore nerd and he came back at me with "if Skyrim belongs to the nords than all of tamriel belongs to the elves". I never agreed with him but that's what I love about elder scrolls. Everything is about perspective and who you personally agree with. If anything Skyrim belongs to the snow elves and the dwarves since they were there long before nords arrived. But if a war is fought, isn't the victor entitled to the spoils of war? Idk there's nuance and that's why so many people can love this series
i humbly request the most in depth video on pelinal as can be possible. the dude is a straight up menace. i love him. i aspire to be him. at least in video games.
Heimskyr is usually in jail or dead when he disappears. I think he always belongs in jail. Also... it just occurred to me: what would your adopted children think if you married Cicerlo?
34:38 Saadia is the one who is blatantly lying: 1. If she was really fleeing from the Thalmor then why instead of fleeing to Windhelm or the territories controlled by the rebels (where the only thalmor present in those areas is hidden in Forelhost), but to Whiterun where many 3rd Dominion patrols pass. 2. Hammerfel is in conflict with the 3 Dominion, so why would the latter hire a militia of a people who hate him when both in the game itself and in the lore we know that they often use kahjiit to spy on or assassinate traitors, spies, or enemies. 3. If Kematu was a hired assassin why does he get angry at us when we kill Saadia in front of him instead of complimenting us? And besides, he would have had no reason to avoid a massacre in the cave so he could talk to us. 4. If we help Kematu capture Saadia, coincidentally some time we will be attacked by Thamor soldiers carrying a letter
My favorite theory about the Dwemer disappearing is that they found out that the elder scrolls universe is a dream or just “not real” so once they realized they didn’t exist they..stopped existing
Impossible. There not a hive mind. What you suggest, would mean kagnarac ONLY would of disappeared. Otherwise... All chimer would of achived CHIM. But that of course, didnt happen.
@@uhhshae i miss the days fans could talk, debate and delve into the lore together without getting defensive or uptight. Cmon dude. Your better then that.
@@uhhshae who knows for certain? Heck... Are we even confident that the devs know/have decided? I think that its too much for a deadric prince to of done.. otherwise...whats to stop others doin such disruptive things. So i dont think it was azura. I dont think they 'zero summed' as a group... As there NOT a hive mind. If it was easily done by accident (via kagnarac) then the neververine would probably of dont at least SOMETHING unintended whilst using the tools (during tes 3, end of main story) So... The only other thing i can think of... Is if lorkhan had a moment of sentience again. If only for a breif time and did 2 things... 1... Took out the dwemer on nirn in a instance. 2... Put in motion (and gave azura the charge) of grooming a dragonborn to come and finish the clean up... Ending the 4 beings that are using the hearts (his) power (tribunal + dagoth ur) yes... I DID say there, that the nerevine is dragonborn. A shezerine.. a comming of shor/lorkhan. Maybe?
The bit at 16:34 is actually in the game. It’s what Ancano says to Tolfdir and the Dragonborn when they confront him while he’s tapping into the Eye of Magnus. Tolfdir attempts to apprehend him to find that magic has been rendered useless against him. Now, we know Ancano serves in the interest of the Thalmor, but I was under the impression that his psychotic diatribe was part of his own personal ambitions and not representative of the Thalmor as a whole; when subjected to the godlike might of the Eye of Magnus, he probably just went nuts and acted outside of the Thalmor agenda. I personally don’t like the Thalmor’s “end the world” theory on a matter of opinion rather than whether it is true or not. I’d prefer they’re just garden-variety elven supremacists who want to knock humanity down a peg rather than bring on the apocalypse. It would be interesting if there is a sub-faction of Altmer who are on board with this, but that the Dominion as a whole aren’t interested in pursuing such an end game. It makes me wonder what they would have done if they actually figured out what Alduin was up to before the Dragonborn fragged him. It would be funny if they were trying to stop the Dragonborn _because_ Alduin was going to end the Kalpa and do their job for them.
“What I want to know is… out of all the possible outcomes, which are truth and which are lies?” “They’re all truth”. “Even the contradictions?” “Especially the contradictions.”
If wingless dragons are wyverns in someone else's work who doesn't say so, then if you see a lions jabbawack in a nature documentary its a pizzled not a lion.
If you think about it, the hero of kvatch and the nerevarine are both immortal, so it would make sense for the dragonborn to be as well. Nerevarine is immortal from corprus, hero of kvatch from mantling sheogorath and becoming the sheogorath we see in Skyrim, so it would totally make sense for it to be canonical that the last dragonborn joins harkon and becomes a vampire lord Also on the theory of cicero being the adoring fan: I've heard a theory that cicero could have made some kind of deal with sheogorath in exchange for his sanity for some kind of shape shifting abilities Also Ma'iq has 100% achieved Chim
Michael Kirkbride came up with the concept of CHIM after he was booted from writing elder scrolls lore. So, technically its not Canon. But i like to think it is because how else would you explain Ma’iq, Vivec and others? Doesn’t make any sense lore wise for 4th wall breaks unless they understand that they are characters that exist within a video game and are trying to tell the player that in the most passive way possible.
@@jealousyxanderblood7894 that's what I'm saying. Ma'iq knows things he shouldn't be able to know unless he was aware that he's just a character, plus it explains how he's in almost every game despite them taking place hundred of years apart, so I like to think Ma'iq is just some normal khajiit that somehow just randomly achieved Chim
In regards to the Thalmor being "good" theory, I'd say it's more they are more nuanced than the fandom thinks they are. Their motive to ban Tiber Septim worship I think is very valid. He forcefully subjected their people and the other races of Tamriel. He used the Numidium golem to conquer them pretty much without a fight and later used the golem to solidify a totalitarian rule before the underking destroyed it. He mandated discrimination and oppression against the Orcs and the basis of his Godhood is rather weak as well. The actual 8 divines sacrificed their existence to create Nirn and its people and represent fundamentals of the society. What did Tiber Septim do? Conquered a single continent and lived slightly longer than a normal human. Could you imagine if the Mongols declared Genghis Khan a God or the French declared Napoleon a God? How would the peoples who suffered under their hand feel about that? In general also their goals as presented in game (the tower theory has little basis in game) seems basically the same as the Imperials. Create a strong empire where the High Elven people are respected. In TES lore, the races of Man have genocided the Snow elves, Ayleids, left handed elves and have tried to wipe out the Orcs pretty much. We know very little about them overall since the only game where they have a significant presence takes place in literally the most anti Thalmor province in Tamriel.
I hate to burst your bubble but the thalmor were given a Nazi aesthetic specifically because they're evil lol They're the bad guys, always have been. Pelinal posting hours have begun. If it has ears like a knife, we take its life. No qualms, no questions.
I still personally believe kirkbride to be a genuine canon source, I mean he set up the lore for what was to come, even if his successor decided to take an alternate route than he had intended with the story to come, they would still have to hold true to the lore that was already written and set in stone by Kirkbride when he was still at Bethesda, to completely dismiss kirkbride now as an absolute non-canon source and unfounded would be require us to dismiss all the lore established by him when he was at Bethesda as completely non-canon, I understand accepting everything Kirkbride says about the universe as canon would heavily complicate things and I don't think that should be done, but I think completely writing everything he says off with but he doesn't work for Bethesda anymore so anything he says shouldn't be considered and seriously contemplated within the scope of canonicity is equally as damaging, I think what he says should be taken with a grain of salt and maybe shouldn't be given too much weight on its own but definitely when paired with the context of established lore and basic reasoning it can hold weight and I think even on its own it shouldn't be so quickly dismissed, I fell it should at least some consideration
Actually alot of the lore for the series was established in Daggerfall,just as kirkbride was hired on at bethesda. Kirkbride didn't start writing until redguard,although he did work as texture artist towards the end of Daggerfalls development. Ted Peterson,Julian Lefay,Ken Rolston and Kurt Kuhlmann laid the ground work that kirkbride was going off of.
One thing with the Soul Cairn, the Ideal Masters main goal is to take over all the planes and during elder scrolls... 2 or one of the early games before morrowind, they were sending their soldiers to take over planes of oblivion. Why the daedric princes didn't do much but defend is up for debate, but I think its because the Ideal Masters have the power to actually completely defeat a daedric prince as they have access to the biggest soul gems and all that soul gem power, and thus could successfully soul trap a daedric prince and drain them. The reason the Ideal Masters don't leave the soul cairn themselves, is that they are tied to it now and can't leave, so only their soldiers can actually do anything.
Actually it's quite the opposite. The Ideal masters barely compare to the daedra, who are able to create near endless realms of oblivion while ALL of the ideals masters' power COMBINED can only make a singular Soul Cairn. In Daggerfall, Mehrunes Dagon's daedric minions actually pass through the soul cairn and the Ideal Masters are powerless to stop it and the protag needs to help them.
The dragon/wyvern isn’t even a theory? It’s basically the exact same as calling a truck a car. They’re both automobiles just as dragons and wyverns are both flying lizards. Like, it really doesn’t matter and I’ll never understand why some people think it has lore connotations. Great video btw!
Your Tier One is way too deep. This is not how an iceberg works. The first tier is supposed to be *really* shallow - like "The Companions are werewolves" or "High hrotgar aren't actually 7000 steps" or "Talos is a fake god" or "Dwemer dissapeared" or somethin. Very shallow - like I said. Not "The dragon are wyverns, as some few people on the internet claim, seen here on this very nieche DnD chart" But otherwise solid video man, keep it up!
I think it’s more practical to say Saadia was a liar. The Thalmor could care less about such a small thing as a scuttle of internal politics in Hammerfell. But the nobility of Hammerfell I could see hunting down a traitor who sabotaged their resistance to the Thalmor (during the Great War mind you) seems much more likely, as it was more of a personal betrayal to them, thus sending agents to bring her crimes to justice.
The quote you read by Kirkbride about the thalmor wanting to end reality was put into the game. I think you missed it or just never played the college of winterhold questline (respectfully, no hate here:)) . From "you've come for me have you?" to "you think you can do anything about it?" everything in that Kirkbride quote are the exact lines that Ancano uses when trying to use the full power of the eye of magnus (He says this when you enter the room to fight him with the staff of magnus). He was a thalmor ambassador sent to the college to look for what power they could there, which is suspicious by any means. I'm guessing that he was using the eye to destroy the throat of the world, or the white tower Additionally, Ancano isn't just acting out of line on his own either, as when the player goes to get the staff of magnus to fight Ancano, there is another thalmor wizard sent to Labyrinthian to cut you off and tries to kill you. You see, the Dominion actually feared the greybeards and believed they alone could defend the mountain from their armies or magic, they needed a superweapon they could use from across the continent to have a chance against them (or so they believed) Also, I know the thalmor and the Blades already have bad blood, but the Blades believe Alduin's return=end of the world, and delphine believes the thalmor are behind Aldiun's return, so maybe the blades suspect that because they know the thalmor seek to end the world
Tbh that Heimskeir CHIM theory is kinda bad. One character i suspect has it and is in every game is Mai'q the liar. He does say some really odd things sometimes that he shouldn't know and he kinda is a reference to the developers so- I do think the champion is Sheogorath but the hero of Kvatch doesn't exist anymore so he technically isn't because he doesn't exist as himself anymore. That's the only way this theory can be right-
With all due respect towards anyone who come up with Dragons in Skyrim are actually Wyverns. If in Elder Scrolls Universe there are Dragons that looks like the ones in Skyrim, and are called Dragons, then they are dragons and not wyverns. If another Universe says that two legged fire breathing giant flying lizards are wyverns, then be it, but don´t put two totally different universes that are having only Fantasy and Role playing in common together and claim that "In DnD it´s called Wyvern so these in skyrim aren´t dragons but wyvern" thing. Because if this would be the case with every fantasy game out there, that would mean that literally every single fantasy rpg game and any fantasy universe is connected to the each other. Or in other word: Fable would be in the same universe as elder scrolls, which would be part of the universe of DnD which would be part of Tolkien´s universe etc... Like, so much for that theory.
If the dragonborn is essentially the same as a dragon, but in human form, he must also be of Akatosh. Therefore he might see Harkan as Molag Bal's twisted abomination, and want to kill him and his kind.
I know I'm a year late. But there is a question I've always been wondering. According to the lore, the heart of lorkhan is indestructible because it is the heart of the world. So how is it destroyed?
The unreliable narrator/nothing cannon theory could be the most truthful along with every game is a dragon break. When you consider the games are designed with the player being able to make multiple choices including whether or not to complete the main quest and technically all choices are both true and false then every game is a dragon break where the timeline splits at the start and rejoins at the end. Then the only thing agreed upon by all narrators are the conclusions of the main quest and dlcs.
Just to be that guy, a few points for anyone who's interested... Michael Kirkbride wasn't responsible for all the lore up till TES5. He did a little background stuff around Redguard but only really got stuck in with TES3 and built heavily on the foundations that were already in place. He only worked on TES4 as a consultant, helping to fill in some areas of the writing. That said, there's a reason he's a fan fave. He was a driving force in shaping Dunmer culture (for which there was almost no lore before TES3), is the guy responsible for many of the weirdest parts of the deep lore, and is so passionate about it all that he continues to work on what's essentially fan fiction that's often treated as canon, even though he's not worked for BGS directly in about 20 years. tl;dr: Kirkbride didn't do it all himself, but major props to the guy for making TES weird and wonderful.
Replying to myself like I've been smoking that sweet moon sugar, but whatever. The Altmer went balls to the wall defending the Crystal Tower during the Oblivion Crisis cos it's a massive centre of magicka. Might as well be a pillar holding up the sky to them. It's also the symbolic heart of Summerset. Imagine how riled up Americans would get if (actual) demons invaded DC. The Thalmor arguably would want to end the world cos they're the extremists among the Altmer, who've already been butthurt since the literal dawn of time after cosmic shenanigans separated them from their gods and left them in an imperfect mortal world. That's why they despise not just Talos worship but Talos himself. He's proof you can not only achieve apotheosis (ascend to godhood) but don't even need to be a mer to do it.
43:49 LMAO
>"The Thalmor are the good guys."
>" No. They're not. "
> Proceeds to next entry
For the bug jars; As with many weird items and locations in game, the art team was VERY separate from the development team, so the art team had this big extravagant quest for the bug jars but the dev team, already pressed for time as is, shot it down. The jars and a couple locations were left in since there was not much point in taking them out as it was a relatively last minute addition.
That's why Skyrim feels unfinished in alot of areas, simply the art team drastically out pacing the actual development.
Yup, this is typical in the industry to a degree. Design teams early in the dev cycle produce a bunch of amazing concepts that only some of makes it into the end product. You add stuff, it breaks other stuff, you fix it, then the publisher tells you to put the game out already. The dream dies in implementation. Sad reality of game design and the creative process in general.
At least concept art is cool.
@@WK-47Yup. And Bethesda games suffer from that severely.
They have FANTASTIC concepts. But never give those time to bake.
We can only hope Bethesda learned from Skyrim, FO4 and Fo76. Supposedly the next TES has been in the works for 4-5 years, hopefully it's true because a dev team and art team having all the time and funding they need under Bethesda could make an amazing game.
Given Bethesda's track record though, I highly doubt it. Probably another game where modders finish it.
@@John.McMillanthat's my hope too. I kind of expect it to be true, since Todd thinks this is his last Elder Scrolls. It's likely he'll try to go out with a bang. Like how the original team treated Daggerfall as a kind of magnum opus, TES 6 will be that for Todd's team.
@@Mephilis78Morrowind was his magnum opus. Nothing else they will make is ever going to reach its level again
Mystara could be another name for Noctural, the daedric prince of shadows, mysteries, and oddly enough, charity. She's a prince who doesn't care for praise so it could make sense that she created an alias that allows her to secretly aid the destitute and it would make sense for them to assume she's a divine rather than a daedric prince.
I'm not claiming this is cannon lore, just a rough hypothesis with scattered backing. Perhaps that's why the gift of charity is a speech buff, which is part of the thief skill tree?
The khajiit and their barbed "scrolls" are confirmed in one of the stories of Barenziah, i think...
Like he said though, it was retconned after the fact.
@@jayl5032 eso only stated that the more animal like khajiit have barbed scrolls, which means Barenziah bumped a cat.
@@stift9977or a Sench Rhat
"M'aiq's hands have grown sore from ...eh, reading his scroll. Yes."
I saw someone critique the mic quality but imo quality is perfectly fine. The delivery, the script, the info - all well done man. I hope I'm able to get my videos to your quality soon!
Hey thanks a lot! I’ll be sure to come check out your channel.
literally, good video is all we need, and it lived up.
It's a fair critique to make; the audio quality is not ideal. However, it's not bad enough to take me out of the video. I agree that the rest of the video is good enough to counteract it.
@@FieryMeltman true it's a fair critique. I felt my statement was necessary bc lots of people will find that 1 negative and go by it haha
I kinda like the mic quality a bit lower (not that its bad) but it adds to the atmosphere. Feels more esoteric and conspiratorial.
I'm surprised that there wasn't the "fallout and elderscrolls happen in the same world" theory now it goes against every bit of elderscrolls lore but the presence of Nirnroot in fallout 4 is odd
(To be fair Pete Hines debunked this theory)
Thought the same thing. I looked around for icebergs and some were either way too big with filler or too small. This one seemed pretty good. But yeah I definitely expect a nirnroot or sweet roll to show up in Starfield. 👍
Truth be told: This same universe thing is something that Bethesda is trying to force and to support that I only know the nirnroot in The Prydwym, the Vaut-Tech door on Doom Eternal and one loose comment from Todd during an interview where he told about Starfield, but yet before name the "space RPG" that they were developing from years them. For me it's only looks like something that Todd is fishing just to create hype over Bethesda's games lores and some pure fan-services than something that can really take body.
IMHO: If Bethesda directly link the story of Starfield's Earth History, inserting all Fallout own timeline on the new game, or somehow make a link between the new game with the Dwemers (that are probably an advanced spacefaring race), or something like that, them I will believe that all this games are linked. Until them, it's all only fan service
Its called easter eggs.
For example
Borderlands 2 has a minecraft EE. But they arent in the same universe.
And i swear todd howard literally said they are two seperate universes before.
The only logical way the two could be in the same universe is if one of fallouts vaults had a simulation. The sim. "The elder scrolls" you spend your entire existance playing a fictional character. If anything the sim we see in fallout 3 proves people can be in a sim and not know it. Except for that one old lady of course and the guy running the show. BUT if it was set up for thousands and thousands of people in a vault it suddenly makes sense. As does the lack of children in the games minus skyrim. Its also worth noting that when someone achieves chim the become aware of the "sim" "dream" and can do anything. Which is exactly what dr braun says in memory lane or whatever the sim was called lol
@@johnblackrose This simulation theory do tons of sense. It's like Skyrim got too many ports and it could end as getting ports both for the dystopian future of Fallout (that would be a parallel universe of Real Life) or, if Starfield happens on our universe, it would have the billionth port of the Skyrim and it would be running (in both cases) in a simulation lol
Only way I would ever accept this theory is if it goes full CHIMpill and says Fallout is in a different godhead
My man, your videos remind me of the good old TES community of youtube from 2011 - 2015. Keep the style, I feel at home.
Wyverns are really just a type of dragon. So it doesn't really matter if they have 4 legs and wings or two legs and a set of wings that can act like legs unless there are various types of dragon or dragon-like creatures in the current setting. This "oh these dragons are really wyverns" thing people do is do silly. A dragon is whatever the creator or creators of a series say it is.
Bingo
Historically this distinction was only made in heraldry and mostly just English heraldry.
Not necessarily. Usually Wyveryns don't breathe fire which is the main distinction as a dragon with two legs that can breathe fire is still a dragon
He literally said that in the video
the biggest difference is that wyverns are from asian folklore and dragons from european. Same thing different appearence
18:00 The Thalmor rose after the Oblivion Crisis claiming to be the ones that stopped it, so the altmer defending the crystal tower to the last man and the thalmor wanting to deactivate them doesn't conflict
I have always considered Sheogorath to be the most fun to interact with, he is mad but my favorite of the Daedric Prince
Unforgettable in Oblivion
1 hour theory video?? Hell yeah man
I hope you enjoy man!
You Forgot the theory that Tamreil is an oblivion relm , as per mancar camoran speach
Well done buddy videos like this really help me get thru work days. It’s great to listen to. I’ll be sure to check out your other stuff
Thanks a lot man. Appreciate it.
I have one for you. Cadwell (or the person he now serves) In Elder Scrolls Online Creates a DragonBreak: When you Beat the main Storyline in ESO, Cadwell offers you a chance to go to the next alliance area. There are like 1 or 2 Quest that suggest that some events are taking place parallel to each other in the different Alliances, but you couldent't be in 2 places at the same time unless a dragon break had or is occurring.
Yeah but now it sucks that they just let you go to each alliance from the get go now to allure more casual players, i really liked cadwell and eso in the old days
@@scott1098 it not only ruins Cadwell's Silver and Cadwell's Gold, but it also kind of flies in the face of the notion that these Alliances are at war. When you are fighting an all out hot war with another nation, you don't have open borders with that nation. That would be absolute suicide.
@@Mephilis78Apparently the war has ended by the time of the current DLCs tho
Just got recommended this video by the algorithm god. Enjoyed it overall and you definitely earned a sub, but can't help noticing a few errors and omissions.
16:36 That exact sentence you quoted is also said by Ancano when the Dragonborn confronts him at the climax of the quest The Eye of Magnus. So yeah, just like many Kirkbride's work or comments, this Commentary is partially confirmed by the game, and itself stands in a gray area in canonicity.
18:00 The Thalmor (aka the Third Dominion) only came into power after the Oblivion Crisis. So the Altmers that defended the Crystal Tower were very unlikely to be associated with the Thalmor. A better example of what the Thalmor is likely to do to a Tower happened during the Great War. As revealed in Legends, the Thalmor army led by Lord Naarifin was sacrificing humans to the Daedra at the White-Gold Tower. They were so occupied with the sacrificial rituals that they did not even organize proper defense of the Imperial City and got their asses kicked by the counter attack of the Imperial Legions.
22:18 Not sure if the Lefthanded Elves were originated from Summerset. Their origin and ending was pretty much a mystery, though there are speculations that the Maomer (Sea Elves) were somehow related to the Lefthanded Elves. The iceberg theory might be talking about this.
24:14 Yeah, it is confirmed in lore by The Real Barenziah, Part III.
34:48 I think this might be related to one of the lines Heimskyr say "I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you." It is once again a direct quote from Kirkbride's work, in which he talks about how Talos changed Cyrodiil from dense jungle to temperate climate using his Chim power.
38:37 If you believe in the Tower Theory, many mainline games suddenly have a different layer of meaning. In every mainline game, the player seems to beat the big baddie and save the world. But in most of them, one Tower Stone gets destroyed and the player might be actually helping with the destruction of Tamrial. Daggerfall: Mantella and the Brass Tower. Morrowind: Lorkhan's Heart and Red Tower. Oblivion: Amulet of Kings and White-Gold Tower. Skyrim might be an outlier as we do not know what the Cave is, but from Esbern's monologue when interpreting the Alduin Wall "When the Snow Tower lies sundered, kingless, bleeding", it does not sound good and the Cave might have been destroyed. The only exception seems to be Arena. So if this pattern continues, TES6 might as well be the last Elder Scroll game as the Covenant finally gets "destroyed", deactivating the Adamantine Tower the final tower that keeps Tamriel going.
You sir seem like a lore master. Cool explanations. Thanks for watching and subbing appreciate it!
Would the Bosmer cannibalism even be considered cannibalism if the person being eaten isn't a Bosmer hell especially if the person isn't a Mer?
It usually is their kind though. It’s the Bosmer who don’t follow the green pact.
No one else would've thought of making this
Dragons can be wyverns, but not all wyverns are dragons.
The amount of times the wyvern thing has come up is incredible, the number of legs on a dragon doesn't matter, it's about if it spits fire or other "elementals magic" or if it spits venom, the wyvern is a type of dragon anyways.
Also, since in the elder scrolls dragons are vastly different on how they use their magic it doesn't really apply anyways, I don't understand the obsession with the number of legs.
Great video btw, didn't mean anything with this comment, just had to vent a little.
the Theory at 43:48 is really interesting... it changes my prospective on all the eras and the plot of the last games...
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Mystara is an Easter egg. It’s a god from Conan.
The Wyvern thing is no theory but a technicality. Like all Buses are cars but Cars arent necessarily busses
Wyverns are dragons so it's not wrong to call them dragons.
The Skyrim civil war matches a strong, violent and hateful rivalry in Brazilian football that is the "Grenal", or Gremio vs Internacional. Gremio wears a blue, black and white uniform and Internacional a red and white. This came from the part of the Gaucho-Culture (the meaning of the colors) that flourished in the days of Uruguay independence from Brazil, where there were two parties, Colorados (red and white banners) and Blancos (white, blue and black banners). Colorados were at favor of keeping loyalty or, at least, good relations with the Brazilian Empire... while the Blancos were a kind of Gaucho supremacists that wanted to create an ultimate Gaucho country joining Argentina. Well... in RL the Colorados won the civil war (and Brazil probably is the only country in History that fought to help part of it's own territory to gain independence from itself lol, but forget about that in this metaphor), the Provincia Cisplatina (the, by then, name of Uruguay as Brazilian Province) became Uruguay, not part of Argentina, and kept good relations with Brazil until this day. Don't know if it is a coincidence that the Empire loyalists in Skyrim wear red and the separatists blue and the overall Skyrim's Nordlike-fantasy is so much alike the Gaucho culture in Brazil or if Bethesda took some inspiration... but... yet... playing the civil war in Skyrim give me the feeling of being part of an ultras war, as it had an smaller scale compared with some more dedicated war games as Mount & Blade or some massive strategic games as Total War. Cheers!
That’s crazy man. Thanks for watching!
Fuck Brazil speak Spanish lol jk thanks for the football history pri ❤
I think I heard somewhere that the dregs rules over the world of Lyg not the world of Tamriel
This was the first video of your channel that I stumbled upon, and I absolutely need to say that I enjoyed it IMMENSELY, all of the way through. Very few people on here are able to capture and hold my attention so thoroughly, especially on my first interaction with them. I _will_ often subscribe to new channels I find while I'm watching the first videos of theirs (that I happen to come across), because I like their vibes or whatever and can definitely see myself coming back to their channels later on, and I end up clicking off a few minutes in in most cases, and maybe around halfway through for a small handful of channels who just very obviously hit above the bar for me, and what I like to enjoy-but I really want to emphasize how extraordinary of a category that puts you in for me.
Not once did my wandering mind even think about stopping part of the way through the video, literally not a single time. I found you to be so genuine, your sense of humor was perfectly on point (for me and my cheesy taste lol), and you were just such a breath of fresh air to listen to in so many other ways that I simply loved watching this all of the way through. Which of course made me happily subscribe to your channel!
And on one last sappy note, your humility, and the sense of deep appreciation you displayed throughout that video for anyone and everyone who was taking the time to enjoy what you made, is extremely admirable to me, and went a hell of a long way in demonstrating that you're more than worthy of people building a community around you and your work here.
Wow that is genuinely one of the nicest comments I’ve ever received hands down. You’ve made my day man.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment this. I super appreciate it. I hope you have a great day.
@@LunarLegendsG I meant it. Godspeed, brother.
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Loving the iceberg videos bro!
Thanks man! Appreciate it.
Mystara is a goddess from DnD btw. And you can hear them reference her in oblivion. I remember doing a double take because i knew dnd first.
Just waiting for Starfield so I can either throw out or expand my theory that the odd looking space tech in the trailer is actually the Tower/Wheel/Thing Lorkan saw that made him create mortality.
Every copy of Skyrim is personalised.
Liked and subscribed.
Thanks!
Just wanted to say this video was pretty fun and I'm definitely going to be watching more of your content. :)
Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.
Morrowind was my start into loving playing games so much, but Oblivion reinforced it massively. I can't get enough of lore or of other people's interpretations of it. This was a great video, thank you for making it! I don't mind the mic. If you don't have the greatest audio editing software, I'd be happy to see if there was anything I could do to reduce reverb. I think it's all a matter of preference, though. I'm glad youtube recommended this to me!
Hey thanks for watching, appreciate it. Yeah I’m getting a new mic but my setup is also in a very big space, so the sound travels around the room. Currently working on that situation lol. Thanks for watching!
Mystara could be the antithesis of Mehrunes dagon
Skyrim belongs to the Nords!!!
It sure does
Skyrim belongs to everyone !!
I said this to an elder scrolls lore nerd and he came back at me with "if Skyrim belongs to the nords than all of tamriel belongs to the elves". I never agreed with him but that's what I love about elder scrolls. Everything is about perspective and who you personally agree with. If anything Skyrim belongs to the snow elves and the dwarves since they were there long before nords arrived. But if a war is fought, isn't the victor entitled to the spoils of war? Idk there's nuance and that's why so many people can love this series
Everyone that is saying it either doesn’t belong to the Nords or to everyone is a Thalmor Sympathiser and should be dealt with
*falmer has entered the chat*
awesome video man, you have a wonderful voice and I love the content! :D thank you for putting in so much effort! earned my sub for sure :)
Thanks man!
i humbly request the most in depth video on pelinal as can be possible. the dude is a straight up menace. i love him. i aspire to be him. at least in video games.
hmmm, maybe i do a new playthough of skyrim and just murderize every elf i can find
All wyverns are dragons but not all dragons are wyverns
The mic's fine. Saw someone comment. Little reverby, but completely listenable. Came here because I cannot satisfy my need for more lore.
Thanks appreciate it!
Heimskyr is usually in jail or dead when he disappears. I think he always belongs in jail. Also... it just occurred to me: what would your adopted children think if you married Cicerlo?
Dragons in Skyrim are dragons if I create an imaginary world where people with long pointy ears are called bananas they are bananas not elves
34:38 Saadia is the one who is blatantly lying:
1. If she was really fleeing from the Thalmor then why instead of fleeing to Windhelm or the territories controlled by the rebels (where the only thalmor present in those areas is hidden in Forelhost), but to Whiterun where many 3rd Dominion patrols pass.
2. Hammerfel is in conflict with the 3 Dominion, so why would the latter hire a militia of a people who hate him when both in the game itself and in the lore we know that they often use kahjiit to spy on or assassinate traitors, spies, or enemies.
3. If Kematu was a hired assassin why does he get angry at us when we kill Saadia in front of him instead of complimenting us? And besides, he would have had no reason to avoid a massacre in the cave so he could talk to us.
4. If we help Kematu capture Saadia, coincidentally some time we will be attacked by Thamor soldiers carrying a letter
My favorite theory about the Dwemer disappearing is that they found out that the elder scrolls universe is a dream or just “not real” so once they realized they didn’t exist they..stopped existing
Impossible. There not a hive mind. What you suggest, would mean kagnarac ONLY would of disappeared.
Otherwise... All chimer would of achived CHIM. But that of course, didnt happen.
@@chillievans oh you know what happened to the Dwemer then? Ahhh didn’t think so :/
@@uhhshae i miss the days fans could talk, debate and delve into the lore together without getting defensive or uptight. Cmon dude. Your better then that.
@@chillievans saying what I think is impossible w/out providing another answer isn’t discourse
@@uhhshae who knows for certain? Heck... Are we even confident that the devs know/have decided? I think that its too much for a deadric prince to of done.. otherwise...whats to stop others doin such disruptive things.
So i dont think it was azura.
I dont think they 'zero summed' as a group... As there NOT a hive mind.
If it was easily done by accident (via kagnarac) then the neververine would probably of dont at least SOMETHING unintended whilst using the tools (during tes 3, end of main story)
So... The only other thing i can think of... Is if lorkhan had a moment of sentience again. If only for a breif time and did 2 things... 1... Took out the dwemer on nirn in a instance. 2... Put in motion (and gave azura the charge) of grooming a dragonborn to come and finish the clean up... Ending the 4 beings that are using the hearts (his) power (tribunal + dagoth ur) yes... I DID say there, that the nerevine is dragonborn. A shezerine.. a comming of shor/lorkhan.
Maybe?
Skyrims stone of reality is the eye of magnus
The ideal masters are also in battlespire
Great stuff man !!
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
I see so many people talk about lore from every game except ESO. I wish more people would include stuff from it.
The bit at 16:34 is actually in the game.
It’s what Ancano says to Tolfdir and the Dragonborn when they confront him while he’s tapping into the Eye of Magnus. Tolfdir attempts to apprehend him to find that magic has been rendered useless against him.
Now, we know Ancano serves in the interest of the Thalmor, but I was under the impression that his psychotic diatribe was part of his own personal ambitions and not representative of the Thalmor as a whole; when subjected to the godlike might of the Eye of Magnus, he probably just went nuts and acted outside of the Thalmor agenda.
I personally don’t like the Thalmor’s “end the world” theory on a matter of opinion rather than whether it is true or not. I’d prefer they’re just garden-variety elven supremacists who want to knock humanity down a peg rather than bring on the apocalypse. It would be interesting if there is a sub-faction of Altmer who are on board with this, but that the Dominion as a whole aren’t interested in pursuing such an end game.
It makes me wonder what they would have done if they actually figured out what Alduin was up to before the Dragonborn fragged him. It would be funny if they were trying to stop the Dragonborn _because_ Alduin was going to end the Kalpa and do their job for them.
My theory is the games themselves ARE the Elder Scrolls.
That's...actually pretty brilliant. I like it.
I fucking love your stuff man i also love the humor you have but mic quality is not so good but in general good job love learning lore while working
Appreciate it man. And yeah I need to buy a new one. Like I said it’s just a hobby right now but I’m looking into it! Thanks for the feedback!
“What I want to know is… out of all the possible outcomes, which are truth and which are lies?”
“They’re all truth”.
“Even the contradictions?”
“Especially the contradictions.”
If wingless dragons are wyverns in someone else's work who doesn't say so, then if you see a lions jabbawack in a nature documentary its a pizzled not a lion.
If you think about it, the hero of kvatch and the nerevarine are both immortal, so it would make sense for the dragonborn to be as well. Nerevarine is immortal from corprus, hero of kvatch from mantling sheogorath and becoming the sheogorath we see in Skyrim, so it would totally make sense for it to be canonical that the last dragonborn joins harkon and becomes a vampire lord
Also on the theory of cicero being the adoring fan: I've heard a theory that cicero could have made some kind of deal with sheogorath in exchange for his sanity for some kind of shape shifting abilities
Also Ma'iq has 100% achieved Chim
Michael Kirkbride came up with the concept of CHIM after he was booted from writing elder scrolls lore. So, technically its not Canon.
But i like to think it is because how else would you explain Ma’iq, Vivec and others? Doesn’t make any sense lore wise for 4th wall breaks unless they understand that they are characters that exist within a video game and are trying to tell the player that in the most passive way possible.
@@jealousyxanderblood7894 that's what I'm saying. Ma'iq knows things he shouldn't be able to know unless he was aware that he's just a character, plus it explains how he's in almost every game despite them taking place hundred of years apart, so I like to think Ma'iq is just some normal khajiit that somehow just randomly achieved Chim
@@lordowl3533sometimes... An easter egg.... Its just.. an easter egg
Damm he did forget The Elder Scrolls Travels series ^^ in the introduction
lol why do I need knee pads?
Might take an arrow in the knee. Never know.
@@LunarLegendsG Oooohhhhhh. Thank you for thinking of our safety!
Good job on the video! :)
In regards to the Thalmor being "good" theory, I'd say it's more they are more nuanced than the fandom thinks they are. Their motive to ban Tiber Septim worship I think is very valid. He forcefully subjected their people and the other races of Tamriel. He used the Numidium golem to conquer them pretty much without a fight and later used the golem to solidify a totalitarian rule before the underking destroyed it. He mandated discrimination and oppression against the Orcs and the basis of his Godhood is rather weak as well. The actual 8 divines sacrificed their existence to create Nirn and its people and represent fundamentals of the society. What did Tiber Septim do? Conquered a single continent and lived slightly longer than a normal human. Could you imagine if the Mongols declared Genghis Khan a God or the French declared Napoleon a God? How would the peoples who suffered under their hand feel about that?
In general also their goals as presented in game (the tower theory has little basis in game) seems basically the same as the Imperials. Create a strong empire where the High Elven people are respected. In TES lore, the races of Man have genocided the Snow elves, Ayleids, left handed elves and have tried to wipe out the Orcs pretty much. We know very little about them overall since the only game where they have a significant presence takes place in literally the most anti Thalmor province in Tamriel.
My ancestors are smiling at me, Imperial. Can you say the same?
I hate to burst your bubble but the thalmor were given a Nazi aesthetic specifically because they're evil lol
They're the bad guys, always have been.
Pelinal posting hours have begun. If it has ears like a knife, we take its life. No qualms, no questions.
Great work man
Thanks man. Appreciate you watching.
Owen Wilson's podcast is pretty good.
Yes, Saadia is lying because the Allaqier hate the thalmer. They wouldn't ever work for those wicked Elfs!
Yeah they just fought a massive bloody war and seceded from the empire because they signed the white gold concord instead of keeping the fight up
I still personally believe kirkbride to be a genuine canon source, I mean he set up the lore for what was to come, even if his successor decided to take an alternate route than he had intended with the story to come, they would still have to hold true to the lore that was already written and set in stone by Kirkbride when he was still at Bethesda, to completely dismiss kirkbride now as an absolute non-canon source and unfounded would be require us to dismiss all the lore established by him when he was at Bethesda as completely non-canon, I understand accepting everything Kirkbride says about the universe as canon would heavily complicate things and I don't think that should be done, but I think completely writing everything he says off with but he doesn't work for Bethesda anymore so anything he says shouldn't be considered and seriously contemplated within the scope of canonicity is equally as damaging, I think what he says should be taken with a grain of salt and maybe shouldn't be given too much weight on its own but definitely when paired with the context of established lore and basic reasoning it can hold weight and I think even on its own it shouldn't be so quickly dismissed, I fell it should at least some consideration
Actually alot of the lore for the series was established in Daggerfall,just as kirkbride was hired on at bethesda.
Kirkbride didn't start writing until redguard,although he did work as texture artist towards the end of Daggerfalls development.
Ted Peterson,Julian Lefay,Ken Rolston and Kurt Kuhlmann laid the ground work that kirkbride was going off of.
I prefer the roosterteeth version of the bugs in jars
Dont worry about lore, Bethesda don't
41:20 he ascended to the starfield
Great vid!
Awesome video 🔥🔥
One thing with the Soul Cairn, the Ideal Masters main goal is to take over all the planes and during elder scrolls... 2 or one of the early games before morrowind, they were sending their soldiers to take over planes of oblivion. Why the daedric princes didn't do much but defend is up for debate, but I think its because the Ideal Masters have the power to actually completely defeat a daedric prince as they have access to the biggest soul gems and all that soul gem power, and thus could successfully soul trap a daedric prince and drain them. The reason the Ideal Masters don't leave the soul cairn themselves, is that they are tied to it now and can't leave, so only their soldiers can actually do anything.
I believe it was battlespire (or at least they appeared in it)
Actually it's quite the opposite. The Ideal masters barely compare to the daedra, who are able to create near endless realms of oblivion while ALL of the ideals masters' power COMBINED can only make a singular Soul Cairn. In Daggerfall, Mehrunes Dagon's daedric minions actually pass through the soul cairn and the Ideal Masters are powerless to stop it and the protag needs to help them.
@@rickthebrick200 And yet the soul shriven just destroys daedric princes like they're roadbumps, so... The lore is all kinds of screwed up.
The dragon/wyvern isn’t even a theory? It’s basically the exact same as calling a truck a car. They’re both automobiles just as dragons and wyverns are both flying lizards. Like, it really doesn’t matter and I’ll never understand why some people think it has lore connotations. Great video btw!
Plato's Cave is a fantastic comparison to CHIM (if not perfect)
Your Tier One is way too deep. This is not how an iceberg works.
The first tier is supposed to be *really* shallow - like "The Companions are werewolves" or "High hrotgar aren't actually 7000 steps" or "Talos is a fake god" or "Dwemer dissapeared" or somethin. Very shallow - like I said.
Not "The dragon are wyverns, as some few people on the internet claim, seen here on this very nieche DnD chart"
But otherwise solid video man, keep it up!
Not my iceberg and I fully agree. But this iceberg in general is really deep.
Thanks for watching!
I think it’s more practical to say Saadia was a liar. The Thalmor could care less about such a small thing as a scuttle of internal politics in Hammerfell. But the nobility of Hammerfell I could see hunting down a traitor who sabotaged their resistance to the Thalmor (during the Great War mind you) seems much more likely, as it was more of a personal betrayal to them, thus sending agents to bring her crimes to justice.
The quote you read by Kirkbride about the thalmor wanting to end reality was put into the game. I think you missed it or just never played the college of winterhold questline (respectfully, no hate here:)) . From "you've come for me have you?" to "you think you can do anything about it?" everything in that Kirkbride quote are the exact lines that Ancano uses when trying to use the full power of the eye of magnus (He says this when you enter the room to fight him with the staff of magnus). He was a thalmor ambassador sent to the college to look for what power they could there, which is suspicious by any means. I'm guessing that he was using the eye to destroy the throat of the world, or the white tower
Additionally, Ancano isn't just acting out of line on his own either, as when the player goes to get the staff of magnus to fight Ancano, there is another thalmor wizard sent to Labyrinthian to cut you off and tries to kill you.
You see, the Dominion actually feared the greybeards and believed they alone could defend the mountain from their armies or magic, they needed a superweapon they could use from across the continent to have a chance against them (or so they believed)
Also, I know the thalmor and the Blades already have bad blood, but the Blades believe Alduin's return=end of the world, and delphine believes the thalmor are behind Aldiun's return, so maybe the blades suspect that because they know the thalmor seek to end the world
I remember the eye of Magnus incident. Dagoth Ur told Joe Rogan about it in his interview.
Thank you, kind sir. Blessings of Mystara upon you
Great video
Me: Unemployed
Also me: STFU nazim
He’s the absolute worst. 😂
Guys should i replay skyrim with or without mods
Depends on how many times you’ve already played it. If it’s a lot. Then mod that baby.
Should i take green or blue shirt for today?
Tbh that Heimskeir CHIM theory is kinda bad. One character i suspect has it and is in every game is Mai'q the liar. He does say some really odd things sometimes that he shouldn't know and he kinda is a reference to the developers so-
I do think the champion is Sheogorath but the hero of Kvatch doesn't exist anymore so he technically isn't because he doesn't exist as himself anymore. That's the only way this theory can be right-
Theory. The cloud district is just code for a skooma den.
With all due respect towards anyone who come up with Dragons in Skyrim are actually Wyverns.
If in Elder Scrolls Universe there are Dragons that looks like the ones in Skyrim, and are called Dragons, then they are dragons and not wyverns. If another Universe says that two legged fire breathing giant flying lizards are wyverns, then be it, but don´t put two totally different universes that are having only Fantasy and Role playing in common together and claim that "In DnD it´s called Wyvern so these in skyrim aren´t dragons but wyvern" thing.
Because if this would be the case with every fantasy game out there, that would mean that literally every single fantasy rpg game and any fantasy universe is connected to the each other. Or in other word: Fable would be in the same universe as elder scrolls, which would be part of the universe of DnD which would be part of Tolkien´s universe etc...
Like, so much for that theory.
If the dragonborn is essentially the same as a dragon, but in human form, he must also be of Akatosh. Therefore he might see Harkan as Molag Bal's twisted abomination, and want to kill him and his kind.
Theory:
The Falmer can actually see.
I agree. Just because they look like they’re blind they actually have good eyesight but who would win? Falmer or Forsworn
Think the only way the Seogorath you see in Skyrim not being the Champion is sometime between Oblivion and Skyrim, someone else Mantled Seogorath
Oh I've never heard of Mystara, thats so cool
Parthanax is the Dragonborn's grandfather!
I would go with cousins rather than a grandfather I think.
They're dragons.
1. They're called dragons
2. They walk on four limbs.
I know I'm a year late. But there is a question I've always been wondering. According to the lore, the heart of lorkhan is indestructible because it is the heart of the world. So how is it destroyed?
8:54 “There was going to BEE a quest added to the game”
Are you proud of yourself for making that pun?
Lol I have many puns in there. I guess I was feeling punny or something. 😂👍
16:35 Ancano the Thalmor from the college of winterhold says that exact line right before you fight him. I guess it is cannon
You mean “Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted” lol
Haha exactly. 👌
Will there be a way to bring back the Dwemer? If yes that would be good because Markarth can be Dwemer again
Love your narraition, please do more
Another iceberg vid dropping today at 6pm MST.
@@LunarLegendsG Oooh I'm excited!
What is in where?
The unreliable narrator/nothing cannon theory could be the most truthful along with every game is a dragon break. When you consider the games are designed with the player being able to make multiple choices including whether or not to complete the main quest and technically all choices are both true and false then every game is a dragon break where the timeline splits at the start and rejoins at the end. Then the only thing agreed upon by all narrators are the conclusions of the main quest and dlcs.
43:51 😂😂😂
Just to be that guy, a few points for anyone who's interested...
Michael Kirkbride wasn't responsible for all the lore up till TES5. He did a little background stuff around Redguard but only really got stuck in with TES3 and built heavily on the foundations that were already in place. He only worked on TES4 as a consultant, helping to fill in some areas of the writing.
That said, there's a reason he's a fan fave. He was a driving force in shaping Dunmer culture (for which there was almost no lore before TES3), is the guy responsible for many of the weirdest parts of the deep lore, and is so passionate about it all that he continues to work on what's essentially fan fiction that's often treated as canon, even though he's not worked for BGS directly in about 20 years.
tl;dr: Kirkbride didn't do it all himself, but major props to the guy for making TES weird and wonderful.
Replying to myself like I've been smoking that sweet moon sugar, but whatever.
The Altmer went balls to the wall defending the Crystal Tower during the Oblivion Crisis cos it's a massive centre of magicka. Might as well be a pillar holding up the sky to them. It's also the symbolic heart of Summerset. Imagine how riled up Americans would get if (actual) demons invaded DC.
The Thalmor arguably would want to end the world cos they're the extremists among the Altmer, who've already been butthurt since the literal dawn of time after cosmic shenanigans separated them from their gods and left them in an imperfect mortal world.
That's why they despise not just Talos worship but Talos himself. He's proof you can not only achieve apotheosis (ascend to godhood) but don't even need to be a mer to do it.
idk theepicnates iceberg was pretty expansive
His is the entire elder scrolls iceberg. This is the theory iceberg. Very different.
heimskyr is plato
I killed paarthanax because miraak kept stealing souls. I always considered it a sacrifice
My friend tried doing that once when he was doing the Dragonborn dlc then miraak stole paarthurnaxs soul lol
I gave my all and I got burned, I kant be saved
I don't know what this means, but, sorry this happened to you or i'm glad for you! ;)
Wrong canon Joshua
@@LunarLegendsG well, I've been moving wrong, so I'm praying for God to order my steps
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Actually, that's a wyrm...
The Elderscrolls Lorebeard Speaks!
Sry Zaric. Had to do it broseph.