@@cy-one that's actually pretty interesting I think that would come down to coordination, like focus a certain ship first. Depending on what ships are attacking ect.
Also, for those still thinking "Why crew the Connie when they could bring their own ships?", the answer is fuel. One fully crewed Connie will use considerably less fuel than bringing a Connie + other ships. Another reason, is the ability for the crew to manage ship systems and conduct repairs mid-battle. I think there will be considerable efficiency gains to crewing larger ships, in general, rather than every individual bringing their own smaller ship.
Plus when the new damage model system is when when there's no more HP bar for the ship, instead every ship and vehicle will have the materials that make up the ship react to stresses in different ways depending on the tolerances of each little piece of the ship. No more hitting a single spot on a ship over and over and just blowing it up... instead, you'll have to 'eat' through the armour and hull of a ship to take out components and the connections between those components. This will not only make things more immersive as decompression, gaseous environments, and fire will be a thing, but also make combat more strategic and just better overall; not to mention the engineering gameplay loop as well where you'd need to maintain ship systems and repair things on the fly. Theoretically a ship could be filled with holes like Swiss cheese and be fine if they miss components, or..you could take out someone relatively quickly if you aim for the right part of the ship and destroy their reactor or thrusters. Anyways, what this all means for medium ships like the Connie and larger ones that they will generally have more armour and hull thickness than small fighters, they will be able to withstand more damage, while a well placed shot to an Arrow could result in a ballistic shot going right through the cockpit and killing the pilot, or shearing through the middle of the ship and hitting the power supply and rendering it dead in space.
Unless they give it a third size 2 shield, or good armor when that's a thing, it's not gonna do much better even with full crew. It's gonna be just a glass cannon.
@@RoballTV I hope that it is given a stable rebalance when the game has more depth flushed out and they can begin balancing ships to fit their individual niche and give player options to playstyle, aesthetics, org culture, roleplay, and crew dynamics. For me especially, I'm really only interested in multicrew ships and that type of gameplay. Having a mobile operations center and finding that balance between "small gang" and "big org" gameplay.
@@rostermaan1321 At this point, same time it'll take most complex things. So many functions already work on CIG's local servers, but can't be handled on the PU cos of server issues. Pretty much everything is waiting for the server tech.
With the Redeemer finally coming and work on the 'gold standard' Retaliator starting this week, looks like the old schoolers are prepping to show those young'uns what for.
If the Aquila had a “real exploration rover” instead of that stupid Ursa with no sensors, then it would be even more attractive. Imagine exploring unknown planet with a vehicle that can’t scan for danger or valuable minerals, might as well just leave it behind and hover over the ground using the ship sensors instead.
Wonderful cinematography - I particularly loved the shot you used for the intro. I really like the Constellation, it's versatile, forgiving, and the new changes give even more to multi-crew, especially if you have more than 1 person interested in flying.
One of the best experiences I've had in Star Citizen was so simple but amazing at the same time.. My mate and I bed logged out of the connie in deepspace and launched back in as a party, and I landed in the game, lights off.. Turned to look to the side with freelook and saw my buddy laying in his bunk next to me and we were like "Wow.. That actually worked!" .. It was super cool.
The Connie is one of the bigger ships I want to have (and can almost afford). Yes, even before the fixes, although that's mostly because I was confident the fixes would come. It's just such a unique and versatile ship.
I've been having fun with the connie for the first time in this PTU. It's been so long since I put any real time into it so I can't put my finger on which changes made the difference but it's getting there!
i would love to see a conny as a "real" gunship with maybe one turret with atleast 2S3 Weapons. in my opinion 2Turrets each with 2S2 Guns is just not enough for a Gunship
The best usecase I see for the connie is mining in the Pyro system. You scan and scout with the connie and merlin until you find a cave or cluster of harvestables. When you find a good spot, you drop off the ROC (i thought it could fit two) and start mining, while the merlin and connie secure the location. When you have to log off, everyone merges with the connie and you park it in orbit, go to bed.
A few friends found that kiting the Connie's turrets out to disable shields then the snub fighter out for killing blows and the bear hulls of enemy fighters worked very well.
I love that ship, always have, glad to see it got some love. I hope it does well and look forward to checking it out in the PU. It was always good in PVE if you smoked the incoming NPC ships at 4km, kite them, full reverse, decoupled and grab some popcorn. Sounds like the elevator bugs are fixed to so even better! I do wish CIG would give us size 5 mounts down below like it used to have.
is there like any place to go or explore yet? or just like the asteroid field and a planet thats kinda jank? or is it like better? i dunno, Odyssey is coming out for Elite and you know that got a whole galaxy with billions of planets, and they have atmospheres where you can get out of your ship and walk around on thhe planet and shit.. its gonna be pretty sick, man. like epic and what not. So whats good with space citizen my choom?
Constellation Crew: Sir, why are we parking here again? New Babbage has large hangers. Captain: This one is personal. You stay here, in case my ex has anything planned. If I don't return in 24 hours, run like hell. Connie Pilot: Jesus, man...
As much as I'm glad to hear that some work has been done, I'm not willing to consider the ship "fixed" until they actually fix the issues with it. Such as the bottom nacelle guns you mentioned. Those are supposed to support S5 guns too. This was a pledge promise and has been thoroughly documented by the community not only as an issue, but also with suggestions for how to fix it and after CIG themselves confirming the issue and saying they would fix it. For CIG not to address it while they were actually working on the ship after years of players already waiting is ridiculous. It's one thing not to address it for years, when you're working on other parts of the game. It's another not to address when when you're already actually working on it. For that matter, they didn't address the "center" struts obstructing players view, after Cruz already promising to address it in a recent SCL. In fact, it seems like they didn't really address anything the community has been actively complaining about for years. If you're already working on the ship, why would you not take the opportunity to fix the long standing issues with the ship and completely ignore the community in the process.
The connie is a multi-crew multi-role ship, it's fine that it dies to dedicated combat ships it's own size and larger or that it's not ideal flown solo, if you want to fly solo there are better suited ships for that.
I have had a long, love/hate relationship with the Connie for many years...I have felt the merciless embrace of the killer lift more times than I care to count...however, it is one of those few ships that I will always own and always feel great pride to own.
2 size 5 distortion repeaters and 2 size 4 pretty much anything else makes short work of hammerheads in PVE. I really like the connie, always have and I'm glad the worst issues are getting resolved. I won a few PVP fights in it as well using auto gimbals. This was all solo, filling the 2 gun slots and having the snub fighter would make the connie definitely a dangerous ship. It's also got diversity as you said with big cargo, room for a car. I think its great
My biggest gripe with the Connie and especially the Andromeda is the look of the doors with those ugly orange stripes, the bad crew quarters with the elevator just in the middle of it and the waste of space at the tail of the ship where you literally have an empty room before entering the Merlin room. They could have placed the elevator there and make it a decompression chamber for both the Merlin and the entrance of the ship plus added some suit and armor cabins/weapon racks to actually make it look something either than an empty box.
"This is your Captain speaking, we are approaching the enemy. Pilot, start your ship and prepare to launch, gunners to your stations. Strap in and get comfortable people, we're about to wreck their day."
Morph: "Don't fight hammer heaad 1v1". Me: "I wasn't supposed to do that?". Those size 4 cannons are the best ballistics right now IMO, the ones wit the HE filler. Do massive damage when penning shields.
Great video! You showed it briefly at the end, but I think it is worth mentioning that the Connie can now load ground vehicles like a ROC reliably now, making it even more useful.
Little story about me and my Andromeda: Before this patch, in fact, before the Hammerhead was even heard about, I used my Constellation Andromeda as a training ship for newcomers to the verse. I loved it because it had the basics of a mobile home, with a cargo bay, and weapons. We didn’t win all of our encounters, but a lot of new players told me how much fun they had just flying about in a large ship. Now that it’s getting well deserved TLC with the new systems, I’ll be happy to restart that experience.
Subliminal posted a video where the Connie shredded an npc hammerhead in less than 15 seconds when it had some distortion weapons on the pilot guns. I think it was two s4 distortion + 2 laser repeaters. In my experience, a Connie can go all day against an npc hammerhead if maneuvering in decoupled mode. Basically it puts the main thrusters to work on turns, which allow you to circle the hh faster than the turret fire can track you. Even before the shield hole fix, the Connie was a perfect npc bounty ship because even soloing you could out-snipe everything until you got to the hammerheads. Now that shields are fixed, all bounties before ERTs are going to be on easy mode (I mean, they kinda already were) because the Connnie will be undamageable and unkillable, which means you can do bounties one after another without having to repair.
The vehicle lift actually working as of yesterday (which I'm not sure if you included because I haven't watched the whole video yet) really brought the Constellation to where it NEEDS to be before they launch another variant soon.
The original Constellation commercial (2014) was what got me interested in SC when I first saw it late in (probably 2015). The game wasn't even my radar. I went back and forth on spending money on an Alpha for a couple of years before finally taking the plunge... on a Freelancer :) I still don't have a Connie - a lot of other ships besides - but maybe it's time to finally take the plunge. I love the look of the ship; the performance has been sadly lacking though. Nice vid as always Morph.
I do hammerhead bounties solo in my andromeda with all cannon load out. Just keep moving at max range to avoid as much fire as you can and let the cannons do the work. So glad to see this ship finally get the work it needed. The shield holes were the bane of my existence for ever lol
A ship that takes 3 crew should be at its most efficient when crewed by 3 people: assume that the first person is the pilot, most of the usable potential is thus manouvering, and the ship this can't compete with ships that are designed to be combat ships with a single pilot. But the second it gets a second player, it should become more efficient, and be able to hold its own against 2 separate player combat ships, at least, if not more
Our group has been running an Andromeda as our main ship for the last 6 months. It is a great one. And with all the fixes that it got - shields, lighting, working elevators - and the snub ship working, it instantly became an awesome ship. The MSR is great, but this one is more comfortable to use because of the fast access to everything. This update makes me a lot happier.
@@vahnn0 Wrong is: all 4 hardpoints are S5. But the lower ones are restricted to S5 Gimbals for S4 Weapons just because they had some scaling/clipping issues with S5 Weapons. The have to solve this problem so all ports work as intended (as any other port in the game).
I had an Andromeda in my fleet for some time, yet as you've pointed out, it looked good on paper, but because it wasn't living up to its own hype, I eventually abandoned it. Now that other systems are coming online that enhance the Andromeda's playability, I'm considering adding it back into my fleet. It does need some interior love too such as a weapon rack (or two), updated head and mini-galley, tweaking of the suit-storage lockers to bring them up to specification, and a serious pass to bring the component access areas up to date. Just more tech-debt that CIG will eventually have to address. Good video Morph. Thanks.
I'm a SQ42 backer and have thought about getting into SC proper for a while now. I'm in no rush, given that my backing of 42 was back in...15? 16? Don't remember at this point. If I ever did get into SC, the Connie is probably the ship for me. Everything about it is nice-looking, it's not too flashy...it just looks like something I'd like to own. Nice to get a good breakdown of its pros and cons.
While the Coni's need a general update (like a lot of older ships) the last BIG problem with the Coni post 3.13 is the cargo bay. The cargo bay is made in such a way that the top half becomes dead space if a rover is place inside. This is especially a problem Constellation Aquila which not only doesn't need that much cargo space but it A) will 90% of the time have a rover in the Bay making the upper cargo area dead space, and B) lack many of the facilities expected of a Explorer. My Answer would be to give the Aquila a deck layout like the Phoenix fill with the equipment needed for exploration. As for the Andromeda I give it a hanging cargo area (so you can hold cargo and a rover) or Phoenix like layout with expanded work space.
This has always been my favorite ship, and this update for it has been almost everything I’ve wanted for my beloved ship. No more shield holes and an upcoming presence for the need of multi crewmen. No more meta single player slashers, the desire for multi crew is coming soon and I’m glad to be ahead of the game here
I've never been the biggest Connie fan BUT the old Constellation trailer was what got me hooked to Star Citizen and the docking...well, I always wanted that ingame and now I absolutely love it!
I had a Connie for a long time, but traded up to the MSR. That ship has taken the place of both my Connie and Fat Max. Having a snub fighter to deploy would be nice, but the MSR is tough, maneuverable, fast and can still carry a ton of cargo. Morph, the Connie is a good ship on paper, as you said, but it is a bus. Big, heavy, slow and still squishy. If the squishy issue could be fixed, it could be a great ship. Use the snub fighter to harass and distract the enemy while the Connie soaks damage and deals it out. That would be my dream.
The Connie was my very first multi-crew ship, and despite her problems I've never changed her. So glad to see the improvements, and looking forward to spending some time really getting used to manual docking!
As always jaw dropping, beautiful footage, a great overall experience with the ship. As for my thoughts? 1. The prob with the Connie, is it's the only kid its age on the playground. Atleast until the 400i and the Corsair show up. It's too slow to fight smaller ships, and not tough enough to fight bigger ships. And the only ships its size are either PVP meta ships like the Vanguards, or the freaking Retaliator XD When the verse is filled with more ships like it, it won't feel singled out and have the perception of weakness, right now it just conceptually has a big bullseye shaped spotlight on it. 2. Even with appropriate ships coming to finally stop it standing alone in an awkward niche, it's designated a 'merchant navy' vessel in the lore. So it shouldn't fight alone, it should fight as a convoy. A. It should hang back in a group, guarding the bulk cargo ships with long range gun and missile support, and shooting down torps with the turrets. B. There should be a swarm of P52's and P72's as a result, but they should primary 1 ship at a time, and also not get in the way of the real escort fighters. C. Seriously, bring real fighters too, Defenders are neat, my cousins nephew knows a Banu dealership XD
I ended up switching from my Harb to my Connie for BHing in 3.12. The Harb was more durable, but the Connie with M7As on the top mounts could kill even Valks before they got close enough to fire back. Fairly stealthy with Sukorans too. I just found it far more efficient for everything save ERTs with an Eclipse. Like many, I've had a love/hate relationship with the Connie and melted it more times than I can count. It's finally in a decent place. Haven't played with the lift yet. Started using my MSR for ground mining since it has sensors comparable to the Cutty Red/Terrapin, while none of the Connies do.
I actually bought one just when 3.13 public PTU got released. Just had news today that vehicles now properly go up when closing cargo bay Next ship will be a Carrack : Did you know 2 P-52/72 can fit in the upper ship bay, and actually some other small ship (m50, razor, etc.) can go in cargo bay 😈 ?
I discovered something i found quite interesting the other day. Someone had taken the Connie Andromeda's model and interior, and turned it into a VRCHAT map without giving credit or even mentioning what the ship was called. The map was just called "Space Ship" It was pretty cool to see an SC ship in VR and be able to walk around it in lifesize scale, but i do think its a bit rude (and illegal) to just take an asset from a different game and call it your own.
Idk if this is a well known tactics for Connie, but I usually use my connie against hammerhead ERTs by focusing on the support ships first then try to circle the hammerhead vertically (over-under-over)
I'm sorry, but IMHO the connie needs a full rework, simply tweaking its numbers for shield and weapon strength ain't gonna cut it! I think it needs to be wider (it needs more internal volume, like the connie phoenix), and it needs a few more remote turrets for full 360 coverage (since its maneuverability isn't so good). I personally believe this ship is too small to have a snub fighter docked with it, use remote attack drones instead. Save snub fighters for larger ships, like the Caterpillar. Ships larger than the Caterpillar, like the 890 Jump, could even have 2 snub fighters! Cosmetic changes I want to see include - the silly lifting fans have got to go, and there are too many greebles on the hull (you don't have to remove them entirely, just tone it down a bit). Also, the struts on the front windscreen are too thick, make them thinner so they don't obstruct the view (again, you don't have to remove them entirely, just tone it down a bit).
So, as a counterpoint to the usefulness of the Merlin or Archimedes in combat, I think they are seriously just a blast to fly. Those ships are two of my absolute favorites to go on joyrides with, and they handle much better than something like the Razor in atmosphere. Being able to carry them with me in a Connie while I go do other tasks, or even just to carry them easily to remote locations that are too far to go without a quantum drive is just _fun._
I got into the game during 2.6 and I thought the Connie already had this functionality when 3.0 went live. So I've been more than ready to check this out!
Subliminal just posted a video solo'ing Hammerheads in ERT missions. With a few upgrades he killed the a Hammerhead with a Constellation faster than any other ship (11.8 seconds!) But his shields did go down. It's no slouch. If he had used the full capabilities with multiple people (in turrets & the Merlin) it would have been quicker.
4:40 I've taken on 2 HHs in the andromeda solo. In fact, it was easy, when you are using ballistic canons (which you should given it's terrible maneuverability) it beats the hammerhead 5 ways from sunday. of course that is with NPC Fights, do not go solo against a fully manned player HH, it doesn't matter what ship you fly.
I have owned all previous variants to the Taurus since I started backing in 2013. The Phoenix.. I purchased that for the mighty promises made at the time that it would be able to function as a Command ship! Betrayed by the Nerf Bat and ship and feature creep, I CCU'd all of them for bigger or better. Just the other day I applied a CCU to the Cutlass for the Taurus, I feel the ability to carry vehicles etc just opens up more gameplay options. I think it will be handy ship to have in the early days.
This sounds amazing. I think that a ship that has all those positions for crew should NOT be as effective without being FULLY crewed. What I got from this video is that a MULTI-CREW ship is meh to okay while flown solo or with 2 crew, but GOOD while FULLY crewed. THIS is exactly how I feel it SHOULD be.
I had the Taurus myself for Months and will own a Conny in the Future again because it's simply A Beauty and now with the S3 Shield, the fixed Elevator and the good Weaponry it's a perfect Workhorse for daily use. The only Drop down is the Speed wich is only about 910m/s but nothing is perfect.
Yeah, the Andromeda was my very first ship. I loved the look of it, and it ran cargo in patch 3.9 to Tram and Meyer like a boss. Although I loved the ship for that time, I quickly learned that it was really a "jack of all trades and master of none" I melted it after playing for a month and never looked back. But if CIG does revisit the ship and give it the love it needs, I may find myself unmelting it again in the future. Great video Morph, keep at it man. Hope to see you in the verse
Gotta admit watching the Connie drop the snub nose fighter into combat gave me major rogue squadron vibes. I’m newer to playing SC but I’ve followed it for some time since I’ve started playing I’ve mentioned several times I think this game has some of the greatest machinima potential I’ve ever seen if it could be more consistent.
I have found a stock loadout Connie makes PVE up to HRT simple as it quickly takes out the enemy before they can get close. I also do a lot of bunker missions and I have no trouble taking out the turrets with it. However for PVP it's a different story as experienced players know how to exploit its weaknesses. It was the second ship I bought, and I was never disappointed with it. I have considered an upgrade to an MSR, but the MSR has too many doors and the "immersion" gets tedious very quickly.
The Andromeda variant should probably have an additional remote turret to the rear, maybe a missile turret though I would find the external rack hard to service, then increase its viability as a dropship by repurposing the living space into an armoury. more compact escape pods instead of the beds and adding a few jump seats.
ok, boss loadout that does need both turret gunners to be fully functional (merlin is optional) Shields: 1x Sukoran, 1x FR-76 (coolers dont matter as main guns will be ballistic) reactor: JS-400 for the EMP resistance and restart timer) turret guns: 4x (2x2) distortion repeater S2s, or 4x Suckerpunch distortion cannons, either works, repeaters are easier as the main ship can be flailing around a bit and its harder to be super accurate. main guns: 4x C-788 ballistic cannons. these bad boys deal some sick hull damage but suffer from not working on shields as well (hence the distortions on the turrets), while the overall DPS isnt as high as 4x Revenants, they had MUCH higher sustain both in they take little power (more can be shunted to shields and engines), and much better ammo-to-overall damage ratios. the Merlin: its 1x gatling, and 2x neutron repeaters to pepper targets as needed (if using) the Archimedes: 4x neutron cannons (I found bombarding targets with 4 of these tends to be great as the ships can get inside the 600m max dps range) Alternatively, if you want to go all out on spending, get one A class industrial cooler, an A class military cooler, and pig out on 4x Attrition 4's (or 2 4's and 2 5's if you're comfortable with fixed) BUT the connie has a VERY hard time and its quite dangerous to get inside and stay inside the measly 300m max dps range.
I fell in love with the Aquila while having it as a loaner for my Carrack, the size was just right for me, and I really do miss the ability to fire some guns while piloting. With a bit of love and care, the Connie will be a great ship, I hope they do another pass over for the bridge to improve visibility and a bit more use of the space inside the ship. I will be getting a connie in game, no doubt about it, I love the looks and the size of that ship, even though it was a buggy mess when I flew it.
ive been taking on hammerheads solo in my connie. its all about how you engage. the trick is to pull the hammerheads out of the asteroid field, so you can maneuver at high speed and then either do fast passes or keep backstrafin at a distance of about 3km. i use c-788 and galdareens. Ive also defended against arrows and talons. Its not about how "good" a ship is, its all about what the pilot can do with said ship
Considering I've already farmed about 10Mil doing bounties with the connie and managed to solo a HH once with it, I'm very, veeery happy to hear about these changes.
I'm still waiting for the Taurus variant ... but I'm glad I have it, I really like the style of the ship. I also hope the bigger cargo will allow me to put a small ship in it.
I've got the Aquilla! I have upgraded it to the C2 so just making the most of it for now. It's served me well for what it is, the weapons on it really pack a punch, its roomy, nice size ship.
Fantastic video. Thanks. I've been using the Connie again since 3.12 release and I love it again. Have been bounty hunting VHRT groups a ton. Good fun and very profitable
I would argue one of the other big benefits of the merlin is for it to keep the enemy's shields down while the connie lines back up Also, patience testing universe XD morph you're the best It'd be cool if you could hail your own ship if it has a cargo bay and have it open the cargo bay for you on foot or in a ground vehicle. Garage door opener to the rescue in a pinch
Connie has always been good, except for in PVP or if you tried to move a ground vehicle around at least ;) Seriously, Connies can do all the combat missions solo, easily. And they don't suck as cargo movers either, at least no more so than cargo moving itself sucks :D
The *only* thing that needs to be fixed is the hub area. There needs to be a better crew quarters. That's it. Once there's a better interior then this ship will be where it should be. The rear of the ship is fine.
The Connies have always been good! I find your implications... heartbreaking Truthfully though, the biggest historical issue I had with the Connie is the magical disappearing HUD
... and how ridiculosuly the MSR performs coping to a mass twice the Connie I guess. Compared to similarly sized ships other then MSR the Connie is no slouch
Honestly the best thing about The connie is the airlock elevator, brilliantly designed to allow entry and exit without depressurising. The Aquila windows need to be added to the other variants. Honestly I'd only use the snub fighter as a scout and continuous air patrol when landing the connie for a ROC mining team. Edit, I just like having C788s on it and making it a firesupport platform when supporting other smaller ships.
The testing was interesting in this video, though I would imagine that this would not be the typical fighting style against other ships with more maneuverability than it. Especially with more enemies to deal with, ships like the Connie are going to do what I call a fighting retreat. Basically like the freelancer, you go really fast in one direction, then you decouple and fire back at the enemy while running in that direction. This way you always keep your best weaponry facing towards the threat. And rather interestingly, while doing this you can prepare quantum travel to get out of that bad spot. (If there isn’t any interdictors)
Connie in 3.12 is one of the top tier PVE bounty hunting ships.. It's just getting better with the patches! PLUS now that the elevator works correctly for the ursa, and such it makes some of the other game play options (like raiding an outpost) more fun too! I cannot wait for the patch to hit live!
I think in future when flexibility matters more and crews will be easier to get onboard it will have a place, but as it stands I think for what missions we have it is to crew intensive to be efficient.
My friend got the Andromeda before this patch came out and immediantly upgraded it to do as much aplha damage as possiable and have as much shields as possiable. He found he could easily destroy most targets in seconds and for heavier targets he just spammed his 52 missiles making the fight very easy. He never found that he was out maneuvered either being able to keep track just as easy as my fully upgraded Avenger Titan. The only issue he had with the ship is that sometimes it would randomly explode after a single shot when he had no damage but that could be because of the holes in the shield.
I have flown this ship a long time and is my Kickstarter package. It's finally time for the Connie to shine. 3.12.x patches fixed the hull having 0 resistances which softened the nerf the shield holes made and they tweaked the flight model. It's a 60M long ship so its not supposed to handle like a dog fighting jet but not be a slug either aka Millennium Falcon. It handles well now but still feels like a proper larger ship should. It has gone down in the new sinkhole caves and launched the merlin while parked underground so its agility is good enough. In PTU the SDF shields fixed the holes and makes it feel tougher stock. Upgrading to military grade A shields FR7x almost triples its passive shield recharge and ups the pool to almost 50K especially overclocked. If you have the alien ship with Sukoran S2 shields putting them on the Connie and overclocking them gives almost 80k shields with 1300/hps shield recharge and 100% resistance to physical damage aka projectiles don't penetrate at least per erkul games. A Connie fitted with milspec gear and the largest guns makes it a beast and deserving of its rep as an 'old reliable'. The latest PTU patch stopped the vehicles violently bouncing on cargo elevator ramps when it moves too which will be nice. The ship was meant to have 4 crew. Pilot, 2 turrets, and a snub pilot/repair person when ship repairs become a thing. All multi-crew ships should be at a disadvantage if not properly crewed. The Connie like the Cutlass Black is useful enough solo but when fully crewed its the most effective. The bottom guns are S4 on gimbals and supposed to go fixed size 5 like the tops but changed/bugged for some reason a long time ago. A pair of 4s and 5s though are kinder to your coolers if you have turret gunners running and shields recharging too. I use the Industrial A grade coolers but the milspec have plenty cooling too and faster disruption recovery. One strategy we tried is flying it like a real AC130 gunship. It's flying a loose evasive pattern instead of dogfighting so the turret gunners can aim easier. The snub chases targets out of the rear blind spots into the turrets firing arc and if they go up front close they get hit with 2 S5 space shotguns and the gimbal 4s are gatling guns or stock lasers that will chase them back into the side firing arcs. I can take out Buccaneers solo in it even on 3.12 but that's partly due to having 52 missiles on hand and space shotguns. I have not tried my 'Alamo Build' on PTU yet. Basically is max tank with gunners but using all its openings for extra crew with railguns and rocket launchers to shoot out from. You can pack a couple Dragonflies in the cargo hold and launch them for extra fighter support and have a few ppl laying prone on the cargo deck so they stick to it while open in space giving 4-8 more rail gunners that are now protected by the SDF shields lol.
always had a soft spot for the connie, especially the aquila. love that rounded front and scanning capability, I kind of miss it (was my loaner for the carrack). Whereas I love the Carrack, it always needs a good complement of 4 to 6 players to really feel like you get the most out of it, the Connie is a more modest 3 to 4 crew and it is a little more easy to get up and go anywhere without the huge bulk of the Carrack. I have an andromeda to redeemer CCU so will defo be messing around with one again... at least for a while.
Greetings from Kaoshung, Taiwan. I agree with your opinion, if it weren’t for this patch I would’ve never got my constellation back again. while the Constellation does pack one heck of a punch, to be honest I would rather fight inside a catepillar than a constellation still... the movement is still slow and sluggish... for my personal opinion only I would not want to fight in the constallation still, but it does have more advantages now.
Patience Testing Universe... sounds about right lol
ain't that's what the whole Alpha is? lol
Made me giggle :)
Haha, and i did understand Patients Testing Universe! :D
I think he just said what we all where feeling lol
This always was my dream ship since I first discovered Star Citizen back in 2015
Yea same here.
I discovered it in 2018 but I can still say the same.
I purchased the Connie starter package waaaaay back in the day so it's nice to see it finally starting to see some much needed attention.
Dude, yes... I have stubbornly flown it since we could, it's so cool. My second pledge...
hahaha when i first read your comment i thought you wrote 1995 :P
"Connie stands a good chance if it's fully manned..." Which is exactly how multi-crew ships should work!
Thanks for the great video Morphologis.
Although one could argue:
How well does a 4-person Connie fare against a 3-4 fighter-squad?
@@cy-one that's actually pretty interesting I think that would come down to coordination, like focus a certain ship first. Depending on what ships are attacking ect.
@@cy-one he just established it is hard pressed to engage solo fighters.
@@xhammy6174 True, but that is because the Connie is in desperate need of a rebalance on the spec sheet.
Back to the "can it take on 3 Hornets ? " I dont see it ever happening personally.
My very first pledge, way back in 2012, and she’s still in my fleet to this day as I never lost hope. So so pleased to see it’s finally paying off.
2012. Wow. Much patience.
This comment didn’t age well…..
Also, for those still thinking "Why crew the Connie when they could bring their own ships?", the answer is fuel. One fully crewed Connie will use considerably less fuel than bringing a Connie + other ships.
Another reason, is the ability for the crew to manage ship systems and conduct repairs mid-battle.
I think there will be considerable efficiency gains to crewing larger ships, in general, rather than every individual bringing their own smaller ship.
Plus when the new damage model system is when when there's no more HP bar for the ship, instead every ship and vehicle will have the materials that make up the ship react to stresses in different ways depending on the tolerances of each little piece of the ship. No more hitting a single spot on a ship over and over and just blowing it up... instead, you'll have to 'eat' through the armour and hull of a ship to take out components and the connections between those components. This will not only make things more immersive as decompression, gaseous environments, and fire will be a thing, but also make combat more strategic and just better overall; not to mention the engineering gameplay loop as well where you'd need to maintain ship systems and repair things on the fly. Theoretically a ship could be filled with holes like Swiss cheese and be fine if they miss components, or..you could take out someone relatively quickly if you aim for the right part of the ship and destroy their reactor or thrusters.
Anyways, what this all means for medium ships like the Connie and larger ones that they will generally have more armour and hull thickness than small fighters, they will be able to withstand more damage, while a well placed shot to an Arrow could result in a ballistic shot going right through the cockpit and killing the pilot, or shearing through the middle of the ship and hitting the power supply and rendering it dead in space.
It was always the best ship for me... very classic. It’s going to shine when you can have NPCs as crew or automated weapons.
Unless they give it a third size 2 shield, or good armor when that's a thing, it's not gonna do much better even with full crew. It's gonna be just a glass cannon.
@@brockoala2994 For sure, it probably should get a third shield, its modules right now are the same as many ships half its size.
@@RoballTV I hope that it is given a stable rebalance when the game has more depth flushed out and they can begin balancing ships to fit their individual niche and give player options to playstyle, aesthetics, org culture, roleplay, and crew dynamics.
For me especially, I'm really only interested in multicrew ships and that type of gameplay. Having a mobile operations center and finding that balance between "small gang" and "big org" gameplay.
how long do you guys think will it take to get NPCcrews in SC...another 3-4 years? maybe 6?...i think it could be even more
sad but true
@@rostermaan1321 At this point, same time it'll take most complex things. So many functions already work on CIG's local servers, but can't be handled on the PU cos of server issues. Pretty much everything is waiting for the server tech.
You know what popular knowledge says: Don`t bring unmanned turret to a gunboat fight.
More like: don't bring a Connie to a fight.
The turrets are pretty useless, they have atrocious elevation/depression.
@@RaG0dofTheSun have you tested that statement since the Connie's been updated?
@gingerosity244 2 years and he is still silenced 😂
Constellation is definitely back in the conversation!
HEY! Stop that!
aaaawwww sh** here we go again
@@theFLRN Love the handle!
With the Redeemer finally coming and work on the 'gold standard' Retaliator starting this week, looks like the old schoolers are prepping to show those young'uns what for.
If the Aquila had a “real exploration rover” instead of that stupid Ursa with no sensors, then it would be even more attractive. Imagine exploring unknown planet with a vehicle that can’t scan for danger or valuable minerals, might as well just leave it behind and hover over the ground using the ship sensors instead.
Wonderful cinematography - I particularly loved the shot you used for the intro. I really like the Constellation, it's versatile, forgiving, and the new changes give even more to multi-crew, especially if you have more than 1 person interested in flying.
One of the best experiences I've had in Star Citizen was so simple but amazing at the same time.. My mate and I bed logged out of the connie in deepspace and launched back in as a party, and I landed in the game, lights off.. Turned to look to the side with freelook and saw my buddy laying in his bunk next to me and we were like "Wow.. That actually worked!" .. It was super cool.
kinda.. gay. a little.. but its cool.
@@raidermaxx2324 Quiet yourself you little Antifa "Yes man".
The Connie is one of the bigger ships I want to have (and can almost afford). Yes, even before the fixes, although that's mostly because I was confident the fixes would come. It's just such a unique and versatile ship.
1:58 Footage of the Origin 404 transitioning in from stealth mode
Nope that's the 890.
@@joelellis7035 r/wooooosh
It's the Roland 808.
I don't even care about the connie, I'm just here for the beautiful crisp 4k morphologis editing
I've been having fun with the connie for the first time in this PTU. It's been so long since I put any real time into it so I can't put my finger on which changes made the difference but it's getting there!
Not having a dozen massive shield holes certainly helps it ^^
i would love to see a conny as a "real" gunship with maybe one turret with atleast 2S3 Weapons. in my opinion 2Turrets each with 2S2 Guns is just not enough for a Gunship
The best usecase I see for the connie is mining in the Pyro system. You scan and scout with the connie and merlin until you find a cave or cluster of harvestables. When you find a good spot, you drop off the ROC (i thought it could fit two) and start mining, while the merlin and connie secure the location. When you have to log off, everyone merges with the connie and you park it in orbit, go to bed.
Oh wow, i was just watching a bunch of older vides and here's a new one
Them struts.. as the Beatles had said "It's getting better all the time" thanks for this take.
It's such a fun ship to fly! So happy to see it getting some much deserved love!
you had some solid cinematic shots, really cool, makes me way more hyped for this then i thought i would be
A few friends found that kiting the Connie's turrets out to disable shields then the snub fighter out for killing blows and the bear hulls of enemy fighters worked very well.
They better not delay my taurus again, I swear. It'll be my come back ok the game.
Also waiting for it xD
Ehm, perhaps trading should come back to the game first.
@@narfash-yt taurus is planned for 3.14
I mean you have the Connie Andromeda if you bought the Taurus..
Your andromeda loaner is better.
You really sure you want the Taurus released?
I absolutely love the idea of being a support pilot on a bigger ship.
I love that ship, always have, glad to see it got some love. I hope it does well and look forward to checking it out in the PU.
It was always good in PVE if you smoked the incoming NPC ships at 4km, kite them, full reverse, decoupled and grab some popcorn.
Sounds like the elevator bugs are fixed to so even better!
I do wish CIG would give us size 5 mounts down below like it used to have.
is there like any place to go or explore yet? or just like the asteroid field and a planet thats kinda jank? or is it like better? i dunno, Odyssey is coming out for Elite and you know that got a whole galaxy with billions of planets, and they have atmospheres where you can get out of your ship and walk around on thhe planet and shit.. its gonna be pretty sick, man. like epic and what not. So whats good with space citizen my choom?
Well im now even more exited for the connie Taurus :D
I'm so glad about this video, I literally bought back my Andromeda yesterday
Constellation Crew: Sir, why are we parking here again? New Babbage has large hangers.
Captain: This one is personal. You stay here, in case my ex has anything planned. If I don't return in 24 hours, run like hell.
Connie Pilot: Jesus, man...
Connie: The hovering missile rack
I miss being able to fit 4x M7 laser cannons on it.. that along with a shitload of rattlers..
As much as I'm glad to hear that some work has been done, I'm not willing to consider the ship "fixed" until they actually fix the issues with it. Such as the bottom nacelle guns you mentioned. Those are supposed to support S5 guns too. This was a pledge promise and has been thoroughly documented by the community not only as an issue, but also with suggestions for how to fix it and after CIG themselves confirming the issue and saying they would fix it. For CIG not to address it while they were actually working on the ship after years of players already waiting is ridiculous. It's one thing not to address it for years, when you're working on other parts of the game. It's another not to address when when you're already actually working on it. For that matter, they didn't address the "center" struts obstructing players view, after Cruz already promising to address it in a recent SCL. In fact, it seems like they didn't really address anything the community has been actively complaining about for years. If you're already working on the ship, why would you not take the opportunity to fix the long standing issues with the ship and completely ignore the community in the process.
The connie is a multi-crew multi-role ship, it's fine that it dies to dedicated combat ships it's own size and larger or that it's not ideal flown solo, if you want to fly solo there are better suited ships for that.
it was sold as being able to take on 3 fighters at once and win, that was part of the brochure
@@FallingForgiveness important caveat *while it's fully crewed* and in theory it could.
@@armyfreak9389 oh yeah for sure, fully manned of course. But in the verse currently, and for a long time, the Connie has been far from that sadly.
I have had a long, love/hate relationship with the Connie for many years...I have felt the merciless embrace of the killer lift more times than I care to count...however, it is one of those few ships that I will always own and always feel great pride to own.
2 size 5 distortion repeaters and 2 size 4 pretty much anything else makes short work of hammerheads in PVE. I really like the connie, always have and I'm glad the worst issues are getting resolved. I won a few PVP fights in it as well using auto gimbals. This was all solo, filling the 2 gun slots and having the snub fighter would make the connie definitely a dangerous ship. It's also got diversity as you said with big cargo, room for a car. I think its great
My biggest gripe with the Connie and especially the Andromeda is the look of the doors with those ugly orange stripes, the bad crew quarters with the elevator just in the middle of it and the waste of space at the tail of the ship where you literally have an empty room before entering the Merlin room. They could have placed the elevator there and make it a decompression chamber for both the Merlin and the entrance of the ship plus added some suit and armor cabins/weapon racks to actually make it look something either than an empty box.
"This is your Captain speaking, we are approaching the enemy. Pilot, start your ship and prepare to launch, gunners to your stations. Strap in and get comfortable people, we're about to wreck their day."
Comparing this video to older vidoes you can really see that you have improved your videos. Love them keep em coming!
Morph: "Don't fight hammer heaad 1v1".
Me: "I wasn't supposed to do that?".
Those size 4 cannons are the best ballistics right now IMO, the ones wit the HE filler. Do massive damage when penning shields.
Great video! You showed it briefly at the end, but I think it is worth mentioning that the Connie can now load ground vehicles like a ROC reliably now, making it even more useful.
Little story about me and my Andromeda:
Before this patch, in fact, before the Hammerhead was even heard about, I used my Constellation Andromeda as a training ship for newcomers to the verse. I loved it because it had the basics of a mobile home, with a cargo bay, and weapons. We didn’t win all of our encounters, but a lot of new players told me how much fun they had just flying about in a large ship.
Now that it’s getting well deserved TLC with the new systems, I’ll be happy to restart that experience.
Subliminal posted a video where the Connie shredded an npc hammerhead in less than 15 seconds when it had some distortion weapons on the pilot guns. I think it was two s4 distortion + 2 laser repeaters. In my experience, a Connie can go all day against an npc hammerhead if maneuvering in decoupled mode. Basically it puts the main thrusters to work on turns, which allow you to circle the hh faster than the turret fire can track you. Even before the shield hole fix, the Connie was a perfect npc bounty ship because even soloing you could out-snipe everything until you got to the hammerheads. Now that shields are fixed, all bounties before ERTs are going to be on easy mode (I mean, they kinda already were) because the Connnie will be undamageable and unkillable, which means you can do bounties one after another without having to repair.
The vehicle lift actually working as of yesterday (which I'm not sure if you included because I haven't watched the whole video yet) really brought the Constellation to where it NEEDS to be before they launch another variant soon.
His vid footage is usually a couple days old for editing, you can see the Ursa Rover bouncing when he uses one at the end but he doesn't mention it.
Through some testing of my own, I've found that 4x gatling ballistics and neutrons in the turrets to be a rather strong loadout.
The original Constellation commercial (2014) was what got me interested in SC when I first saw it late in (probably 2015). The game wasn't even my radar. I went back and forth on spending money on an Alpha for a couple of years before finally taking the plunge... on a Freelancer :) I still don't have a Connie - a lot of other ships besides - but maybe it's time to finally take the plunge. I love the look of the ship; the performance has been sadly lacking though.
Nice vid as always Morph.
I do hammerhead bounties solo in my andromeda with all cannon load out. Just keep moving at max range to avoid as much fire as you can and let the cannons do the work. So glad to see this ship finally get the work it needed. The shield holes were the bane of my existence for ever lol
A ship that takes 3 crew should be at its most efficient when crewed by 3 people: assume that the first person is the pilot, most of the usable potential is thus manouvering, and the ship this can't compete with ships that are designed to be combat ships with a single pilot. But the second it gets a second player, it should become more efficient, and be able to hold its own against 2 separate player combat ships, at least, if not more
Our group has been running an Andromeda as our main ship for the last 6 months. It is a great one. And with all the fixes that it got - shields, lighting, working elevators - and the snub ship working, it instantly became an awesome ship. The MSR is great, but this one is more comfortable to use because of the fast access to everything. This update makes me a lot happier.
The lower hardpoints need to be fixed...
What's wrong with them? I just got an Andromeda a while ago but haven't much time to play, and I'm not in the PTU.
@@vahnn0 Wrong is: all 4 hardpoints are S5. But the lower ones are restricted to S5 Gimbals for S4 Weapons just because they had some scaling/clipping issues with S5 Weapons. The have to solve this problem so all ports work as intended (as any other port in the game).
@@mariobeck3798 Ah, okay, I did notice that, and if it's not as intended then I'd like it fixed as well, because I'd sure like 4x S5 fixed weapons.
Xl1, NN14 turrets, upgraded coolers, and even with shield holes Connie does surprisingly well. With the new SDF shields, I am excite.
I had an Andromeda in my fleet for some time, yet as you've pointed out, it looked good on paper, but because it wasn't living up to its own hype, I eventually abandoned it. Now that other systems are coming online that enhance the Andromeda's playability, I'm considering adding it back into my fleet. It does need some interior love too such as a weapon rack (or two), updated head and mini-galley, tweaking of the suit-storage lockers to bring them up to specification, and a serious pass to bring the component access areas up to date. Just more tech-debt that CIG will eventually have to address. Good video Morph. Thanks.
I'm a SQ42 backer and have thought about getting into SC proper for a while now. I'm in no rush, given that my backing of 42 was back in...15? 16? Don't remember at this point. If I ever did get into SC, the Connie is probably the ship for me. Everything about it is nice-looking, it's not too flashy...it just looks like something I'd like to own. Nice to get a good breakdown of its pros and cons.
While the Coni's need a general update (like a lot of older ships) the last BIG problem with the Coni post 3.13 is the cargo bay. The cargo bay is made in such a way that the top half becomes dead space if a rover is place inside. This is especially a problem Constellation Aquila which not only doesn't need that much cargo space but it A) will 90% of the time have a rover in the Bay making the upper cargo area dead space, and B) lack many of the facilities expected of a Explorer.
My Answer would be to give the Aquila a deck layout like the Phoenix fill with the equipment needed for exploration. As for the Andromeda I give it a hanging cargo area (so you can hold cargo and a rover) or Phoenix like layout with expanded work space.
This has always been my favorite ship, and this update for it has been almost everything I’ve wanted for my beloved ship. No more shield holes and an upcoming presence for the need of multi crewmen. No more meta single player slashers, the desire for multi crew is coming soon and I’m glad to be ahead of the game here
I've never been the biggest Connie fan BUT the old Constellation trailer was what got me hooked to Star Citizen and the docking...well, I always wanted that ingame and now I absolutely love it!
The Conny has always been my favourite ship, so anything that improves her overall abilities is good.
I had a Connie for a long time, but traded up to the MSR. That ship has taken the place of both my Connie and Fat Max. Having a snub fighter to deploy would be nice, but the MSR is tough, maneuverable, fast and can still carry a ton of cargo.
Morph, the Connie is a good ship on paper, as you said, but it is a bus. Big, heavy, slow and still squishy. If the squishy issue could be fixed, it could be a great ship. Use the snub fighter to harass and distract the enemy while the Connie soaks damage and deals it out. That would be my dream.
The Connie was my very first multi-crew ship, and despite her problems I've never changed her. So glad to see the improvements, and looking forward to spending some time really getting used to manual docking!
As always jaw dropping, beautiful footage, a great overall experience with the ship.
As for my thoughts?
1. The prob with the Connie, is it's the only kid its age on the playground. Atleast until the 400i and the Corsair show up.
It's too slow to fight smaller ships, and not tough enough to fight bigger ships. And the only ships its size are either PVP meta ships like the Vanguards, or the freaking Retaliator XD
When the verse is filled with more ships like it, it won't feel singled out and have the perception of weakness, right now it just conceptually has a big bullseye shaped spotlight on it.
2. Even with appropriate ships coming to finally stop it standing alone in an awkward niche, it's designated a 'merchant navy' vessel in the lore. So it shouldn't fight alone, it should fight as a convoy.
A. It should hang back in a group, guarding the bulk cargo ships with long range gun and missile support, and shooting down torps with the turrets.
B. There should be a swarm of P52's and P72's as a result, but they should primary 1 ship at a time, and also not get in the way of the real escort fighters.
C. Seriously, bring real fighters too, Defenders are neat, my cousins nephew knows a Banu dealership XD
I ended up switching from my Harb to my Connie for BHing in 3.12. The Harb was more durable, but the Connie with M7As on the top mounts could kill even Valks before they got close enough to fire back. Fairly stealthy with Sukorans too. I just found it far more efficient for everything save ERTs with an Eclipse. Like many, I've had a love/hate relationship with the Connie and melted it more times than I can count. It's finally in a decent place. Haven't played with the lift yet. Started using my MSR for ground mining since it has sensors comparable to the Cutty Red/Terrapin, while none of the Connies do.
I literally just earned enough to buy this ship yesterday. I'm still experimenting with builds but so far I love my connie.
I actually bought one just when 3.13 public PTU got released. Just had news today that vehicles now properly go up when closing cargo bay
Next ship will be a Carrack :
Did you know 2 P-52/72 can fit in the upper ship bay, and actually some other small ship (m50, razor, etc.) can go in cargo bay 😈 ?
damn the footage of the ship at 00:40 was trippy
I discovered something i found quite interesting the other day. Someone had taken the Connie Andromeda's model and interior, and turned it into a VRCHAT map without giving credit or even mentioning what the ship was called. The map was just called "Space Ship"
It was pretty cool to see an SC ship in VR and be able to walk around it in lifesize scale, but i do think its a bit rude (and illegal) to just take an asset from a different game and call it your own.
On my Connie, I like to throw a pair of distortion repeaters on the bottom turret to help chew through shields so the other guns can finish the deal.
Idk if this is a well known tactics for Connie, but I usually use my connie against hammerhead ERTs by focusing on the support ships first then try to circle the hammerhead vertically (over-under-over)
I'm sorry, but IMHO the connie needs a full rework, simply tweaking its numbers for shield and weapon strength ain't gonna cut it!
I think it needs to be wider (it needs more internal volume, like the connie phoenix), and it needs a few more remote turrets for full 360 coverage (since its maneuverability isn't so good).
I personally believe this ship is too small to have a snub fighter docked with it, use remote attack drones instead. Save snub fighters for larger ships, like the Caterpillar.
Ships larger than the Caterpillar, like the 890 Jump, could even have 2 snub fighters!
Cosmetic changes I want to see include - the silly lifting fans have got to go, and there are too many greebles on the hull (you don't have to remove them entirely, just tone it down a bit).
Also, the struts on the front windscreen are too thick, make them thinner so they don't obstruct the view (again, you don't have to remove them entirely, just tone it down a bit).
So, as a counterpoint to the usefulness of the Merlin or Archimedes in combat, I think they are seriously just a blast to fly. Those ships are two of my absolute favorites to go on joyrides with, and they handle much better than something like the Razor in atmosphere. Being able to carry them with me in a Connie while I go do other tasks, or even just to carry them easily to remote locations that are too far to go without a quantum drive is just _fun._
I got into the game during 2.6 and I thought the Connie already had this functionality when 3.0 went live. So I've been more than ready to check this out!
Subliminal just posted a video solo'ing Hammerheads in ERT missions. With a few upgrades he killed the a Hammerhead with a Constellation faster than any other ship (11.8 seconds!) But his shields did go down. It's no slouch. If he had used the full capabilities with multiple people (in turrets & the Merlin) it would have been quicker.
4:40 I've taken on 2 HHs in the andromeda solo. In fact, it was easy, when you are using ballistic canons (which you should given it's terrible maneuverability) it beats the hammerhead 5 ways from sunday. of course that is with NPC Fights, do not go solo against a fully manned player HH, it doesn't matter what ship you fly.
Took mine out for a spin yesterday....forgot how much i still love it
I have owned all previous variants to the Taurus since I started backing in 2013. The Phoenix.. I purchased that for the mighty promises made at the time that it would be able to function as a Command ship! Betrayed by the Nerf Bat and ship and feature creep, I CCU'd all of them for bigger or better. Just the other day I applied a CCU to the Cutlass for the Taurus, I feel the ability to carry vehicles etc just opens up more gameplay options. I think it will be handy ship to have in the early days.
This sounds amazing. I think that a ship that has all those positions for crew should NOT be as effective without being FULLY crewed. What I got from this video is that a MULTI-CREW ship is meh to okay while flown solo or with 2 crew, but GOOD while FULLY crewed. THIS is exactly how I feel it SHOULD be.
I had the Taurus myself for Months and will own a Conny in the Future again because it's simply A Beauty and now with the S3 Shield, the fixed Elevator and the good Weaponry it's a perfect Workhorse for daily use. The only Drop down is the Speed wich is only about 910m/s but nothing is perfect.
Yeah, the Andromeda was my very first ship. I loved the look of it, and it ran cargo in patch 3.9 to Tram and Meyer like a boss. Although I loved the ship for that time, I quickly learned that it was really a "jack of all trades and master of none" I melted it after playing for a month and never looked back. But if CIG does revisit the ship and give it the love it needs, I may find myself unmelting it again in the future. Great video Morph, keep at it man. Hope to see you in the verse
Constellation has been my main almost since i started playing, I must say this has me quite excited :D
Gotta admit watching the Connie drop the snub nose fighter into combat gave me major rogue squadron vibes.
I’m newer to playing SC but I’ve followed it for some time since I’ve started playing I’ve mentioned several times I think this game has some of the greatest machinima potential I’ve ever seen if it could be more consistent.
I have found a stock loadout Connie makes PVE up to HRT simple as it quickly takes out the enemy before they can get close. I also do a lot of bunker missions and I have no trouble taking out the turrets with it. However for PVP it's a different story as experienced players know how to exploit its weaknesses. It was the second ship I bought, and I was never disappointed with it. I have considered an upgrade to an MSR, but the MSR has too many doors and the "immersion" gets tedious very quickly.
The Andromeda variant should probably have an additional remote turret to the rear, maybe a missile turret though I would find the external rack hard to service, then increase its viability as a dropship by repurposing the living space into an armoury. more compact escape pods instead of the beds and adding a few jump seats.
ok, boss loadout that does need both turret gunners to be fully functional (merlin is optional)
Shields: 1x Sukoran, 1x FR-76
(coolers dont matter as main guns will be ballistic)
reactor: JS-400 for the EMP resistance and restart timer)
turret guns: 4x (2x2) distortion repeater S2s, or 4x Suckerpunch distortion cannons, either works, repeaters are easier as the main ship can be flailing around a bit and its harder to be super accurate.
main guns: 4x C-788 ballistic cannons. these bad boys deal some sick hull damage but suffer from not working on shields as well (hence the distortions on the turrets), while the overall DPS isnt as high as 4x Revenants, they had MUCH higher sustain both in they take little power (more can be shunted to shields and engines), and much better ammo-to-overall damage ratios.
the Merlin: its 1x gatling, and 2x neutron repeaters to pepper targets as needed (if using)
the Archimedes: 4x neutron cannons (I found bombarding targets with 4 of these tends to be great as the ships can get inside the 600m max dps range)
Alternatively, if you want to go all out on spending, get one A class industrial cooler, an A class military cooler, and pig out on 4x Attrition 4's (or 2 4's and 2 5's if you're comfortable with fixed) BUT the connie has a VERY hard time and its quite dangerous to get inside and stay inside the measly 300m max dps range.
I fell in love with the Aquila while having it as a loaner for my Carrack, the size was just right for me, and I really do miss the ability to fire some guns while piloting. With a bit of love and care, the Connie will be a great ship, I hope they do another pass over for the bridge to improve visibility and a bit more use of the space inside the ship. I will be getting a connie in game, no doubt about it, I love the looks and the size of that ship, even though it was a buggy mess when I flew it.
ive been taking on hammerheads solo in my connie. its all about how you engage. the trick is to pull the hammerheads out of the asteroid field, so you can maneuver at high speed and then either do fast passes or keep backstrafin at a distance of about 3km. i use c-788 and galdareens. Ive also defended against arrows and talons. Its not about how "good" a ship is, its all about what the pilot can do with said ship
Considering I've already farmed about 10Mil doing bounties with the connie and managed to solo a HH once with it, I'm very, veeery happy to hear about these changes.
I'm still waiting for the Taurus variant ... but I'm glad I have it, I really like the style of the ship.
I also hope the bigger cargo will allow me to put a small ship in it.
I'm hoping that a Razor EX will fit in the Taurus variant or 2 ROC miners.
I've got the Aquilla! I have upgraded it to the C2 so just making the most of it for now. It's served me well for what it is, the weapons on it really pack a punch, its roomy, nice size ship.
Fantastic video. Thanks. I've been using the Connie again since 3.12 release and I love it again. Have been bounty hunting VHRT groups a ton. Good fun and very profitable
Love my Taurus. I keep running into things and losing my guns, but other than that I love it.
I would argue one of the other big benefits of the merlin is for it to keep the enemy's shields down while the connie lines back up
Also, patience testing universe XD morph you're the best
It'd be cool if you could hail your own ship if it has a cargo bay and have it open the cargo bay for you on foot or in a ground vehicle. Garage door opener to the rescue in a pinch
Connie has always been good, except for in PVP or if you tried to move a ground vehicle around at least ;)
Seriously, Connies can do all the combat missions solo, easily. And they don't suck as cargo movers either, at least no more so than cargo moving itself sucks :D
The *only* thing that needs to be fixed is the hub area. There needs to be a better crew quarters.
That's it. Once there's a better interior then this ship will be where it should be. The rear of the ship is fine.
The Connies have always been good! I find your implications... heartbreaking
Truthfully though, the biggest historical issue I had with the Connie is the magical disappearing HUD
... and how ridiculosuly the MSR performs coping to a mass twice the Connie I guess. Compared to similarly sized ships other then MSR the Connie is no slouch
I don't know - I started using my Connies a LOT MORE when they fixed the oversteer a few months ago. I think that hurt as much as anything.
And I'm happy to report now we just have magical disappearing MFDs. But atleast when they're visible, they're actually interactable now.
Honestly the best thing about The connie is the airlock elevator, brilliantly designed to allow entry and exit without depressurising.
The Aquila windows need to be added to the other variants.
Honestly I'd only use the snub fighter as a scout and continuous air patrol when landing the connie for a ROC mining team.
Edit, I just like having C788s on it and making it a firesupport platform when supporting other smaller ships.
Looking forward to getting back into mine.
Upgraded my Aquila last year, just as these updates were coming. I go back and forth about it a lot.
The testing was interesting in this video, though I would imagine that this would not be the typical fighting style against other ships with more maneuverability than it. Especially with more enemies to deal with, ships like the Connie are going to do what I call a fighting retreat. Basically like the freelancer, you go really fast in one direction, then you decouple and fire back at the enemy while running in that direction. This way you always keep your best weaponry facing towards the threat. And rather interestingly, while doing this you can prepare quantum travel to get out of that bad spot. (If there isn’t any interdictors)
Connie in 3.12 is one of the top tier PVE bounty hunting ships.. It's just getting better with the patches! PLUS now that the elevator works correctly for the ursa, and such it makes some of the other game play options (like raiding an outpost) more fun too! I cannot wait for the patch to hit live!
I think in future when flexibility matters more and crews will be easier to get onboard it will have a place, but as it stands I think for what missions we have it is to crew intensive to be efficient.
My friend got the Andromeda before this patch came out and immediantly upgraded it to do as much aplha damage as possiable and have as much shields as possiable. He found he could easily destroy most targets in seconds and for heavier targets he just spammed his 52 missiles making the fight very easy. He never found that he was out maneuvered either being able to keep track just as easy as my fully upgraded Avenger Titan. The only issue he had with the ship is that sometimes it would randomly explode after a single shot when he had no damage but that could be because of the holes in the shield.
I have flown this ship a long time and is my Kickstarter package. It's finally time for the Connie to shine. 3.12.x patches fixed the hull having 0 resistances which softened the nerf the shield holes made and they tweaked the flight model. It's a 60M long ship so its not supposed to handle like a dog fighting jet but not be a slug either aka Millennium Falcon. It handles well now but still feels like a proper larger ship should. It has gone down in the new sinkhole caves and launched the merlin while parked underground so its agility is good enough.
In PTU the SDF shields fixed the holes and makes it feel tougher stock. Upgrading to military grade A shields FR7x almost triples its passive shield recharge and ups the pool to almost 50K especially overclocked. If you have the alien ship with Sukoran S2 shields putting them on the Connie and overclocking them gives almost 80k shields with 1300/hps shield recharge and 100% resistance to physical damage aka projectiles don't penetrate at least per erkul games. A Connie fitted with milspec gear and the largest guns makes it a beast and deserving of its rep as an 'old reliable'. The latest PTU patch stopped the vehicles violently bouncing on cargo elevator ramps when it moves too which will be nice.
The ship was meant to have 4 crew. Pilot, 2 turrets, and a snub pilot/repair person when ship repairs become a thing. All multi-crew ships should be at a disadvantage if not properly crewed. The Connie like the Cutlass Black is useful enough solo but when fully crewed its the most effective. The bottom guns are S4 on gimbals and supposed to go fixed size 5 like the tops but changed/bugged for some reason a long time ago. A pair of 4s and 5s though are kinder to your coolers if you have turret gunners running and shields recharging too. I use the Industrial A grade coolers but the milspec have plenty cooling too and faster disruption recovery.
One strategy we tried is flying it like a real AC130 gunship. It's flying a loose evasive pattern instead of dogfighting so the turret gunners can aim easier. The snub chases targets out of the rear blind spots into the turrets firing arc and if they go up front close they get hit with 2 S5 space shotguns and the gimbal 4s are gatling guns or stock lasers that will chase them back into the side firing arcs. I can take out Buccaneers solo in it even on 3.12 but that's partly due to having 52 missiles on hand and space shotguns.
I have not tried my 'Alamo Build' on PTU yet. Basically is max tank with gunners but using all its openings for extra crew with railguns and rocket launchers to shoot out from. You can pack a couple Dragonflies in the cargo hold and launch them for extra fighter support and have a few ppl laying prone on the cargo deck so they stick to it while open in space giving 4-8 more rail gunners that are now protected by the SDF shields lol.
always had a soft spot for the connie, especially the aquila. love that rounded front and scanning capability, I kind of miss it (was my loaner for the carrack). Whereas I love the Carrack, it always needs a good complement of 4 to 6 players to really feel like you get the most out of it, the Connie is a more modest 3 to 4 crew and it is a little more easy to get up and go anywhere without the huge bulk of the Carrack. I have an andromeda to redeemer CCU so will defo be messing around with one again... at least for a while.
Greetings from Kaoshung, Taiwan. I agree with your opinion, if it weren’t for this patch I would’ve never got my constellation back again. while the Constellation does pack one heck of a punch, to be honest I would rather fight inside a catepillar than a constellation still... the movement is still slow and sluggish... for my personal opinion only I would not want to fight in the constallation still, but it does have more advantages now.
Im so glad the older ships are getting some love. I have always loved the look of the Coni. Maybe ill work towards it instead of the Redeemer.