You lucky bugger!! Once again a practical, informative no nonsense RIDERS review of a bike. Excellent and keep up this kind of content it helps us all out as riders.
Love my GSA. It's given my a whole new outlook on biking. I've had them on and off for over 40 years but for the last 25 it's been fun only, dry days and maximum of around 1000 miles a year. Got the gsa in March and it's done 5K already. Travelled from Elgin to west Cumbria (310 miles) none stop in heavy rain and loved every minute. Still had 80 miles range in the tank as well
I’ve watched this video so many times!!! Never gets old! I have this exact bike, 68 plate, same colour scheme… I bought mine because of this vid. Love it!!! Thanks Andy.
After watching this video for the third time, I began salivating like one of Pavlov's dogs. In my mind, the GSA is my " Ultimate Motorcycle" . In reality, I don't need all those hi tech features to enjoy a bike. It all goes back to the feeling I had as an eight year old, throwing a leg over my brothers 2.5 horsepower minibike. From that moment 47 years ago, I was hooked! Thank"s TMF, for another great review!
Another great review. I test rode a standard suspension GSA last year with full luggage and my wife as pillion. I'm also 5'9" and I found it just to tall for slow riding and carpark manoeuvres. Thankfully the dealer had a secondhand GSA with reduced height suspension. I was totally hooked and bought the bike. My best bike ever, fantastic tourer and so comfortable, maybe just a little turbulence from the windscreen but nothing to get worked up about. It's possible I may get an MRA in the future, not sure yet. Totally agree, absolutely fantastic bike.
Well done as usual, I bought an Africa Twin based on your review and a long test ride. Was going for a GS having had the older GSA. But the cost of these bikes is now out for me. The AT is very good just done 560 MLS over the weekend with friends never had an ache, which for me is rare (excuse the pun). Weather as you know was pretty awful but the bike was again brilliant so thanks for these hugely informative reviews as they are so unbiased which us riders need. Best. David
Another great review of a bike that is most certainly on my list to purchase! I wasn't sure about the TFT screen but after seeing it in action I think it's great. Looking forward to the full TFT review soon! Thanks again!!
Just pulled the trigger on a 2018 R1200 GSA, traded in my 2012 KLR 650. What a nice machine loving the cruise control above all else . Can't say the stock seat Is comfortable though may be just needs breaking in. Your review helped and I thank you for that. This may be the last bike I ever buy May be.
I got a 2017 GS Exclusive..first week the entire ignition system had to be changed..there is a current recall on all GS from '15 for faulty forks and last month a crack appeared on the intake...best bike ever when its working..better have warranty! still can't see what I'd replace it with!..you have to own em to understand..superb bike..but flawed no doubt..
Yea, will be interesting to see what the connectivity will be like. Rumours say you need the BMW bluetooth, but I've seen the manual, and it says anything thats A2DP. So my Schuberth should be ok!! Roll on tomorrow :)
Nice informative review as always. I agree with you, the combination of Sat Nav and TFT is the way to go, the TFT does look great and I look forward to your detailed review on it. The 1200 GSA has always been my favourite bike and I have been lucky enough to have a few of them over the years. I am currently on a 1200 GSA TE, it's my third GSA, and probably my last. To spec up a GSA with all the toys ( as you do) plus hard luggage you are now talking £ 20K, I don't think I can justify that sort of money now. There are other options out there that will do the job for less money, and they are excellent adventure bikes. I think TFT will be the norm on most new adventure bikes soon.
Nice to see BMW are making improvements. I have a 2015 GS, when I decide to sell I think a new GSA will be the replacement. Another great review, keep up the good work! Rob
Great review well done. last year I got a go on a GS1200 as my S1000R was in my local bmw dealer for a service so they kindly gave me a bike to take away till my bike was ready and I loved it.the 2018 bike looks great in the blue and white definitely my next bike thanks again top review
Thanks for the review mr Flyer! I'm getting mine this Saturday 😀. Without the TFT: in my view connectivity is too distracting. On top of that it's a shame BMW did not integrate the Navigator. Seems like KTM forced them to release the TFT too soon.
Having spend a bit of time on one with the TFT screen running the nav, it’s not distracting at all. The directions only pop up when you’re approaching a turn. It’s all very clearly laid out and you can get all the info you need in a very short glance. And also worth noting that you spend less time trying to figure out what the dials say (as on the old analogue dials) as the information is so much clearer, so if anything its less distracting.
I absolutely love your reviews. Really like seeing the British country side while you are riding. I like BMW motorcycles. They are aesthetically pleasing to look at, they build is one of the best. They are simply very expensive to own and maintain for the average Joe. But man I really watching your content. Its very informative and entertaining!
Love this bike. Great video. Now that is 5 years since it aired, I hope I could buy this exact same model and color scheme 2nd hand here in Asuncion Paraguay
I have just bought a 2018 GSA TE, wow, what a machine, best I've ever owned. Thanks for this video which was very helpful (as was your one of the 2016 R9T which I bought, but has now gone for the GS)
Another gold standard review, fantastic bike, my only concern would be moving a fully luggage loaded bike around, probably 620lbs? you'd have to be really careful with slopes, gravel etc, which is probably why the crash bars are fitted, my other concern would be the longevity of all the electronics, probably really expensive when they break? keep em coming TMF!
As far as handling, the GSA is an outstanding bike. A customer brought in his 1150 GSA that had an 11.8 gallon fuel tank, fully loaded paniers and camping gear strapped to the back. After having new tires spooned on, I took it out to scrub-in the tires. That big GSA showed none of the extra weight. (I would have put the test ride weight at approximately 750 - 850 pounds.)
Another great little road test, very informative. Just want to clarify that the LED aux lights have been around on the GSA since 2014. I also had a KTM1290s on demo but only for the day. I loved the power and handling, but getting back on my 2016 GSA was so much more comfortable. So sticking with it for another year and then may well buy the Rally version as tested. All the best from Tim ex Missenden boy.
Great review, and equally great scenery. Loved seeing the Chiltern roads (and Wendover Woods) that were my weekend dose of green when I lived in Watford a few years ago. I had the Blue and white striped R1150GS, and it's great to see the same basic colour scheme revisited on this gorgeous new GS.
After I posted my comment, I watched your ride video into Central London. On the same 03 1150GS I commuted from Watford to my work across the road from Buckingham Palace, so the motorway ride, filtering down the A40 and the roads around the palace and West London brought back a rush of different memories (not as fun as the Chilterns, but more "exciting"). Thanks for making my day. Now back to work so I can afford the bike you reviewed :)
No wonder Bahnstormer loan you these bikes for longer periods tmf. To have people walking in their showrooms who dont need a comprehensive walk round must be a great asset. Great content. I might have even swapped my 17 Africa Twin if I had the money 😀
Thanks Lee - to be fair it's the first time Bahnstormer have lent me a bike for a day (the manufacturers I work with - Triumph, KTM and Ducati) all let me have bikes for a number of weeks....so far I've had no direct contact with BMW though :0( ....so I'm glad of Bahnstormer's help with these reviews...
TheMissendenFlyer I just swapped a Tiger 800 abs for an Africa Twin in August. I love the Honda but I always find myself wishing I had more. 1200 gs rallye, 1290 super Adventure, customised Triumph scrambler! The list goes on. . .
I'm not a KTM fanboy, it's just the KTM DNA that appeals me, but this GS to be honest is the best looking GS they have made so far. Finally a GS adventure bike not designed to look boring. Nice job BMW. In real life they look very nice. Especially that blue frame. I've never tested one, perhaps I should. :)
Great review TMF, on the strength of this review and of course friends who own one, I’ve bitten the bullet and gone out and purchased a BMW approved used 2018 model with all the bells and whistles.
Thanks for this comprehensive review. That TFT screen is a huge improvement over what they had. It's incredibly clear to read, even with your GoPro. I also think this bike is beautiful in that blue and white paint. I want this, desperately. If I can only get my three daughters out of college. Oh and thanks for the fall views. I don't get those in California!
Visited Williams Mcr weekend and couldn't believe the loaded £22k price tag on an Adv, I run a 14 plate but think won't ever buy new! the PCP returns will be my route. Although nothing wrong with mine it's great suspension, and has all bells and whistles. Interesting test you do, as always! Try the Tenera thought it went great when I tested a year ago comes at a price point, saw loads in Europe!
That's a serious piece of kit. Absolute beauty and an intelligent one too (rare). Great to see BMW made several improvements and not just whack a new model out with only a lick of fresh paint. Yes it's pricey, but it's pitched a the right market. People with a bit expendable cash who fancy some tour and travel, why not do it in comfort with all the trimmings?!! Nice review TMF, especially because you have one the previous models.
Perhaps it's the styling and rugged appearances of a go anywhere machine that makes these big sellers, but unless I planned on riding off the tarmac regularly I would go with a K or RT, especially for full fairing weather protection and additional comfort features like the standard heated seats. Plus panniers are included on the K or RT. But I do get the attraction to these beasts. Nice review as usual sir! Cheers!
I've found your reviews to be informative and it's so hard to be objective on the big BM. But like you, I found my BMW GSA to be much more comfortable touring long days than my 1190R KTM but in the dirt the KTM felt so much more at ease than the BM. 21" front wheel and WP suspension is very hard to beat off pavement. I took delivery of mine here in the US 2 weeks ago. I was so impressed with the Rallye spec bike, I traded my old GSA(2014) and my K1600GT the day I saw it. The new GSA was so familiar compared to my 14 model year, but It does seem to have some notable changes to engine smoothness and maybe a little more performance. However, I've lost a few mpg's. Went from consistently getting 52 mpg on my 14, to 46-48mpg on the new Rallye. The new color and graphics is just superb IMHO, Keep up the good reviews,
Thank you very much for making this review happen. One of my many self-imposed hurdles for pulling the trigger and getting a GS has been the dash. I want my speed to smack me in the face, and I want to know my engine speed.
Great review TMF, I am looking to renew my 2014 GSTE and already have the Nav VI so I am glad you showed the new TFT display as I thought it may be surplus especially for all the money as an extra but from your report it looks like it is worth having so looking forward to you more detailed video on that. I took a 2017 GS out which was keyless and I initially thought it would be a gimmick but as I am always loosing my keys I would definitely get it, I also really like the Rallye but not the seat or screen.
Thanks mate, another good one. I will probably buy a GS (not Adv) with the new display, so am looking forward to your detailed review of it. Rgds Glenn
Just love your reviews and videos, mate, but on top of them all - the GS videos are the best. And this one is no different. Just got myself on my first bike (it's a 2007 Kawasaki Versys) and someday i hope to own a mighty GS myself!! Keep up with the channel and ride safe!
As usual TMF, useful review and very informative. Please post the TFT review when possible and 1 personal request. I'm very interested in the new 310GS, and I am sure a lot of new riders too. Any possible review on that one? That would be great. Keep up the great work!! Regards
I love this bike. Money is not my concern. Just want the best riding, best quality equipment and experience money can buy. This BMW R1200 GSA May have tipped the scale for me. I have not heard the horn, to me an important feature with clueless cell phone using caged drivers. If the horn is unacceptable I would add the USA made Denali 120 decibel horn and lastly the Denali or Clearwater high 6k lumen for additional safety awareness and driving lights. Good job here Mate. Thank you.
Another great review, I wonder though after watching a lot of your content are there any bad bikes, up and down the list of manufacturers you have tested and the entire price range from a couple of grand to this you find positives and no matter what you get on you seem to have fun. I think 19K is way over the top.
You're right Dexter, there are no bad bikes out there now, some are better than others but I have to work very hard most of the time to find things I don't like about new machines....makes reviewing them quite tough!
Although it's expensive, it's one of the few motorcycles at this price point which I feel is actually worth the money. Perfect for our gravel covered pot hole strewn roads.
Hi, I know it’s been awhile since you posted this, but I do tend to go back and watch a lot of yours when I change your bike which is quite often thinking of changing my bmw 1000xr to the GS 1200 2018 mainly for my wife to be more comfortable. I have seen your video on the differences, good or bad idea.
Another great video. Love these GSA bikes, I have been debating about purchasing a late 2017 ,model but since watching this I will hold on for the 2018 models to come to the USA (I,m located in the Chicago area). I was born and lived in the same area as you test ride in so I love to watch and re live my happy youth there. My wedding was at Bray church and the reception was at Monkey Island. OK enough of that I am looking forward the video on the new TFT screen and controller Keep up the good work Terence
Love this bike. They are expensive but think of it compared to the large touring Harley’s I think you get a lot more for similar money from the BMW. And I’m not hating on Harley’s, I’ve owned 3 of them.
Very hard not to like this bike and review. You always give us facts as opposed to hyperbole but I still think at heart you favour BMW over other brands and I will say I can understand and accept that. What I’m eagerly awaiting is your review and opinions of the new Triumph 1200 XRT. Think I can predict it won’t please you as much as the BMW but that’s where my money is going. Either way, you’re thoughts are always true and worth hearing. No one does reviews this well though, thank you.
Wow - thank you very much for the kind words - I'm looking forward to trying the big new Tiger too, I didn't like the old one but you can rest assured I'm as much of a Triumph fan-boy as I am a BMW one!
Love love love this new bike. I've got a 2015 GSA TE and once I've sold a kidney (or two) I will be trading up to one of these. Like you probably the Rallye colours as well.
Great review TMF,fantastic looking bike.....love that colour scheme.If I was going for a BMW I'd probably go for the 800......the 1200 looks massive, but saying that I've never actually ridden one.
Great review so happy to see this so soon. I do think this is the Rally edition though with street tires and comfort seat. Rally has the blue frame and some other bits. EDIT nope just checked local website here in town, not rally, its a premium color scheme on the GSA. Btw since we are comparing import pricing, this is what a fully loaded one costs in the states... 2018 BMW R 1200 GS Adventure Light White / Cordoba Blue Premium $24,790.00 EDIT wow saw another vid and saw the bikes manual and in the US it is Rallye.
Excellent video - loads of info about the new bike. It amazes me how they manage to make a great bike even better. Can't wait to go for a test ride. By the way - lovely roads and scenery!
Great review TMF, after my test ride on a GS my only complaint was the numerals on the analog speedometer. I simply could not read it quickly enough and keep my eyes on the road. Yes the Nav 5/6 can display speed but that surely defeats the point of the GPS. I had the TFT demonstrated by the “sales assistant “ and it was a no brainer to add to my new bike order, the downside was another £500 to the end bill. Only 8 days to go. :- ))
Awesome review as always: Just a quick note. Please just give the phone's lens a quick wipe before starting to film (was comparing the quality of this review to your review of the standard GS Rallye.
Oh man I am jealous, having only semi recently been riding the GS is very much my number 1 bike to get. While I dont really go off road much the way it looks and sounds is so damn appealing and im not really a big fan of sports bikes. Looking to do my A2 and get the 310 GS very soon. Cheers for all the work you put out, its helped me along quite a bit
Another excellent review TMF, I certainly enjoyed that. I'd be interested to hear how you compare this to the BMW RT? Obviously the RT is road focused but most people including you tend to not go off-road on these machines, just a thought?
As attractive a touring package the R1200GS Adventure is with optional paniers and top box, consider a realistic alternate choice for the same amount of money - The 205 HP 4-cylinder Boxer powered Subaru BRZ. While you are in shock consider: fully synchronized 6-speed manual gearbox, RWD sport suspension w/ limited slip differential, auto climate control & heater, an integral roof, VCS, TCS, ABS, 6-way adjustable bucket seats for two, Starlink multimedia, airbags, a rear seat & small trunk, plus power windows! I already own four motorcycles. This makes sense.
I only went and traded my Ducati Multistrada Enduro for the exact bike your riding, I did tell you to go try the enduro, It is a great bike but think i got a lemon, the gear box was like a box of spanners, could find false neutrals between any gear, so clunky and would tell me it was in neutral when was still in gear. Made it not fun to ride but could have been amazing. The GSA just does it, Not with Italian flare but just does it all. TFT is pretty cool, Nav is is way over priced but works well with the wizz wheel ...
As always love watching your vids! I have been waiting for this one in particular as I have half of the money saved and might I say it's very hot! The TFT screen is what did it for me but I am not sure they are available yet in the US market. As to the cost, most of the bikes you see in the US are Harleys, at least in the southern US where the necks are tinged with red. HD's can and do set folks back easily $30k US so $28 for the BMW fully loaded isn't far off...
Excellent review as usual TMF. The speedo on the 2017 model is as you say very difficult to see for those of us with short range issues. I will be very interested to see your review on the TFT screen as I have been trying to find out more about it on line but as yet there isn’t much out there. It would be good to hear your opinion of it and the connectivity side of things. The impression I get is that you have to have the BMW Comms to get the full benefit of the features. I know you aren’t that fussed with the keyless ride and I must admit that neither was I initially but now after four months use on my RT I absolutely love it. Anyway keep up the good work and I shall eagerly await your next vid. Best wishes David
Great review yet again ,would have liked BMW to have jumped on the illuminated switch gear ala Ktm, and frame plugs for those dirt grabbing recesses. Bend over woods an aptly named yet beautiful place .
TheMissendenFlyer just to pick your brain, being on a budget less than the GSA, what would you say about purchasing a tracer 900 as an allrounder? It’s nothing near to what a GSA is but it seems to tick all the boxes with regards to value for money, fun, reliability and comfort? I have also read that BMW is updating the GS800 (900?) range soon, might want to wait for that and see how it stacks up....as you have said in many of your vlogs there are lots of great options out there and more coming all the time :-| ....thanks again for all of your dedication and information.
Another great review! I will be replacing my '15 R1200R with the 2019 model.. the new boxer with VVT should be out then.. The TFT will be coming on more models too. Bahnstormer should give you a percentage! I'm sure you've driven a ton of sales!
That bike you’re on actually is the GSA rallye you can only get the standard GS in the rallye colours you’re on about with the blue panels etc, another great video though
Good review, as always. A problem i forsee for high tech bikes is by the time they become affordable, to normal bikers on tighter budgets, they will be about 8 years old and i would worry about the reliability. Are the electronics going to work the same, and if not, they could cause a serious accident to the rider who is dependent on the safety aids. Also, if anything goes wrong with the bike, the owner could be faced with a massive repair bill running into thousands of pounds. The same could be said for the cheaper bikes with all the electronics, because after a few years old they could be expensive to fix also. Not like today where people can buy a cheap bike and any problems can normally be fixed quite cheaply but not so in the future
Yes good point - in the main electronics with no moving parts tend to be fairly reliable in my experience, but we shall see what happens once they've stood around on a few cold damp winters nights year after year!
Always great vids, I picked up the 2018 R1200 GS Rallye and absolutely love it. Test rode the KTM & BMW back-to-back; both were great, but the BMW has that special feel to it. Thinkng about the Akrapovic exhaust.....is it worth it on this bike?
Was hoping you would turn it around after your closer inspection, see how the crash bars work...next week a vid on hernia operation,And your first impression.😉
You lucky bugger!! Once again a practical, informative no nonsense RIDERS review of a bike. Excellent and keep up this kind of content it helps us all out as riders.
Thanks you David, appreciate the kind words and will do!
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Love my GSA. It's given my a whole new outlook on biking. I've had them on and off for over 40 years but for the last 25 it's been fun only, dry days and maximum of around 1000 miles a year. Got the gsa in March and it's done 5K already. Travelled from Elgin to west Cumbria (310 miles) none stop in heavy rain and loved every minute. Still had 80 miles range in the tank as well
Nice one Harry!
I’ve watched this video so many times!!! Never gets old! I have this exact bike, 68 plate, same colour scheme… I bought mine because of this vid. Love it!!! Thanks Andy.
My pleasure!
After watching this video for the third time, I began salivating like one of Pavlov's dogs. In my mind, the GSA is my " Ultimate Motorcycle" . In reality, I don't need all those hi tech features to enjoy a bike. It all goes back to the feeling I had as an eight year old, throwing a leg over my brothers 2.5 horsepower minibike. From that moment 47 years ago, I was hooked! Thank"s TMF, for another great review!
Nice one - and I completely get where you are coming from.....lovely bike though none the less.
Another great review. I test rode a standard suspension GSA last year with full luggage and my wife as pillion. I'm also 5'9" and I found it just to tall for slow riding and carpark manoeuvres. Thankfully the dealer had a secondhand GSA with reduced height suspension. I was totally hooked and bought the bike. My best bike ever, fantastic tourer and so comfortable, maybe just a little turbulence from the windscreen but nothing to get worked up about. It's possible I may get an MRA in the future, not sure yet. Totally agree, absolutely fantastic bike.
Well done as usual, I bought an Africa Twin based on your review and a long test ride. Was going for a GS having had the older GSA. But the cost of these bikes is now out for me. The AT is very good just done 560 MLS over the weekend with friends never had an ache, which for me is rare (excuse the pun). Weather as you know was pretty awful but the bike was again brilliant so thanks for these hugely informative reviews as they are so unbiased which us riders need.
Best. David
Great stuff - glad to be of help - thanks David....
Honda are cheaper on maintenance also
Always enjoy your reviews, you cover all section of the bike pro's and con's. Keep the reviews coming.
Every time I watch your videos on the BMW GS models the urge to liquidate my stable to buy one is overwhelming. What beautiful machines.
+Old Geezer You know it makes sense!
Another great review of a bike that is most certainly on my list to purchase! I wasn't sure about the TFT screen but after seeing it in action I think it's great. Looking forward to the full TFT review soon! Thanks again!!
Great review again ; just picked up a 2017 gs te fully loaded and love it ❤️👌
Just pulled the trigger on a 2018 R1200 GSA, traded in my 2012 KLR 650. What a nice machine loving the cruise control above all else . Can't say the stock seat Is comfortable though may be just needs breaking in. Your review helped and I thank you for that. This may be the last bike I ever buy May be.
Congratulations!
I got a 2017 GS Exclusive..first week the entire ignition system had to be changed..there is a current recall on all GS from '15 for faulty forks and last month a crack appeared on the intake...best bike ever when its working..better have warranty! still can't see what I'd replace it with!..you have to own em to understand..superb bike..but flawed no doubt..
Great review. Im picking my GSA Rallye up next Tuesday. Will be my 3rd GS. Love the bikes.
Lucky man - did you go TFT?
Yea, will be interesting to see what the connectivity will be like. Rumours say you need the BMW bluetooth, but I've seen the manual, and it says anything thats A2DP. So my Schuberth should be ok!! Roll on tomorrow :)
Micky Haywood BMW Helmets are made by Schuberth anyways. Does it work?
The helmets are, but the comms are made by Sena. But yea, the bluetooth works fine, phone and music :)
Nice, thx for the info!
Nice informative review as always. I agree with you, the combination of Sat Nav and TFT is the way to go, the TFT does look great and I look forward to your detailed review on it. The 1200 GSA has always been my favourite bike and I have been lucky enough to have a few of them over the years. I am currently on a 1200 GSA TE, it's my third GSA, and probably my last. To spec up a GSA with all the toys ( as you do) plus hard luggage you are now talking £ 20K, I don't think I can justify that sort of money now. There are other options out there that will do the job for less money, and they are excellent adventure bikes. I think TFT will be the norm on most new adventure bikes soon.
Nice to see BMW are making improvements. I have a 2015 GS, when I decide to sell I think a new GSA will be the replacement. Another great review, keep up the good work! Rob
Cheers Rob - Yes I'm with you on that, although saving up may be an issue for me!
TheMissendenFlyer ...same here!
Great review well done. last year I got a go on a GS1200 as my S1000R was in my local bmw dealer for a service so they kindly gave me a bike to take away till my bike was ready and I loved it.the 2018 bike looks great in the blue and white definitely my next bike thanks again top review
One of your best reviews to-date - perhaps owning a GS was part of that - great video
Thank you Eoghan....and maybe, I do know the GS pretty well by now....
Thanks for the review mr Flyer! I'm getting mine this Saturday 😀. Without the TFT: in my view connectivity is too distracting. On top of that it's a shame BMW did not integrate the Navigator. Seems like KTM forced them to release the TFT too soon.
Ooh congratulations - exciting times ahead!
Having spend a bit of time on one with the TFT screen running the nav, it’s not distracting at all. The directions only pop up when you’re approaching a turn. It’s all very clearly laid out and you can get all the info you need in a very short glance.
And also worth noting that you spend less time trying to figure out what the dials say (as on the old analogue dials) as the information is so much clearer, so if anything its less distracting.
I absolutely love your reviews. Really like seeing the British country side while you are riding. I like BMW motorcycles. They are aesthetically pleasing to look at, they build is one of the best. They are simply very expensive to own and maintain for the average Joe. But man I really watching your content. Its very informative and entertaining!
Thank you - very kind of you to say so!
Great video again. I am from France and i do love your perfect english accent/speaking. Thanks Man 👍🏻
Merci! ;0)
Love this bike. Great video. Now that is 5 years since it aired, I hope I could buy this exact same model and color scheme 2nd hand here in Asuncion Paraguay
Excellent quality; becoming the “go-to” site for balanced reviews.
+Walter Wilkins Thank you Walter!
I have just bought a 2018 GSA TE, wow, what a machine, best I've ever owned. Thanks for this video which was very helpful (as was your one of the 2016 R9T which I bought, but has now gone for the GS)
Yes great machines aren't they.....
It's taken me to the age of 66 to get one, but at least I made it and have no regrets, what a bike
Another gold standard review, fantastic bike, my only concern would be moving a fully luggage loaded bike around, probably 620lbs? you'd have to be really careful with slopes, gravel etc, which is probably why the crash bars are fitted, my other concern would be the longevity of all the electronics, probably really expensive when they break?
keep em coming TMF!
Thank you Jeff - and yes I agree on the fully loaded weight point, which is partly why I chose the standard GS over the GSA when I bought mine....
As far as handling, the GSA is an outstanding bike. A customer brought in his 1150 GSA that had an 11.8 gallon fuel tank, fully loaded paniers and camping gear strapped to the back. After having new tires spooned on, I took it out to scrub-in the tires. That big GSA showed none of the extra weight. (I would have put the test ride weight at approximately 750 - 850 pounds.)
Another great little road test, very informative. Just want to clarify that the LED aux lights have been around on the GSA since 2014. I also had a KTM1290s on demo but only for the day. I loved the power and handling, but getting back on my 2016 GSA was so much more comfortable. So sticking with it for another year and then may well buy the Rally version as tested. All the best from Tim ex Missenden boy.
+Tim Gornall Cheers Tim - indeed, but these aux lights are “new and improved” for the 2018 MY
Thanks for the review, first time I've seen the new TFT display in action actually on the road, looking forward to your detailed review
Cheers Marcus - stay tuned!
My 2015 1200 GSA has the keyless ignition, so it’s not new. I love the reviews, cheers!
Thanks for the clarification Tony - maybe it's fitted as standard now rather than an option???
Great review, and equally great scenery. Loved seeing the Chiltern roads (and Wendover Woods) that were my weekend dose of green when I lived in Watford a few years ago. I had the Blue and white striped R1150GS, and it's great to see the same basic colour scheme revisited on this gorgeous new GS.
Cheers Rob - thanks for watching!
After I posted my comment, I watched your ride video into Central London. On the same 03 1150GS I commuted from Watford to my work across the road from Buckingham Palace, so the motorway ride, filtering down the A40 and the roads around the palace and West London brought back a rush of different memories (not as fun as the Chilterns, but more "exciting"). Thanks for making my day. Now back to work so I can afford the bike you reviewed :)
Had a 3 demo today an loved the bike. Pick up a new triple black next week. Took your advice an had the nav vi.
Congratulations!
Love your reviews, very clear, unbiased, all in always worth watching.
Good Stuff.
Thank you Bob - appreciate the kind words of support! All the best - TMF
Beautiful bike I own a 2007 f650 gs man they have come a long way in ten years ....brilliant review as always look forward to your next adventure
+Phillip Payne Thank you Philip....
No wonder Bahnstormer loan you these bikes for longer periods tmf. To have people walking in their showrooms who dont need a comprehensive walk round must be a great asset. Great content. I might have even swapped my 17 Africa Twin if I had the money 😀
Thanks Lee - to be fair it's the first time Bahnstormer have lent me a bike for a day (the manufacturers I work with - Triumph, KTM and Ducati) all let me have bikes for a number of weeks....so far I've had no direct contact with BMW though :0( ....so I'm glad of Bahnstormer's help with these reviews...
TheMissendenFlyer I just swapped a Tiger 800 abs for an Africa Twin in August. I love the Honda but I always find myself wishing I had more. 1200 gs rallye, 1290 super Adventure, customised Triumph scrambler! The list goes on. . .
Always a pleasure to see your reviews...
+Roadrover Thank you :0)
I'm not a KTM fanboy, it's just the KTM DNA that appeals me, but this GS to be honest is the best looking GS they have made so far. Finally a GS adventure bike not designed to look boring. Nice job BMW. In real life they look very nice. Especially that blue frame. I've never tested one, perhaps I should. :)
Make sure you have a fat wallet before you go ride....these are lovely machines!
Well done as always ! Looking forward for the TFT review.
Stay tuned!
Great review TMF, on the strength of this review and of course friends who own one, I’ve bitten the bullet and gone out and purchased a BMW approved used 2018 model with all the bells and whistles.
Congratulations!
Thanks for this comprehensive review. That TFT screen is a huge improvement over what they had. It's incredibly clear to read, even with your GoPro. I also think this bike is beautiful in that blue and white paint. I want this, desperately. If I can only get my three daughters out of college.
Oh and thanks for the fall views. I don't get those in California!
Tell me abut daughters and college fees!!
There's a trope that Europeans don't have to pay for college. Seems like it's a myth.
Visited Williams Mcr weekend and couldn't believe the loaded £22k price tag on an Adv, I run a 14 plate but think won't ever buy new! the PCP returns will be my route. Although nothing wrong with mine it's great suspension, and has all bells and whistles. Interesting test you do, as always! Try the Tenera thought it went great when I tested a year ago comes at a price point, saw loads in Europe!
Stay tuned - Tenere review is coming!
That's a serious piece of kit. Absolute beauty and an intelligent one too (rare). Great to see BMW made several improvements and not just whack a new model out with only a lick of fresh paint.
Yes it's pricey, but it's pitched a the right market. People with a bit expendable cash who fancy some tour and travel, why not do it in comfort with all the trimmings?!! Nice review TMF, especially because you have one the previous models.
+Gregory Peck Cheers Greg as ever!
Perhaps it's the styling and rugged appearances of a go anywhere machine that makes these big sellers, but unless I planned on riding off the tarmac regularly I would go with a K or RT, especially for full fairing weather protection and additional comfort features like the standard heated seats. Plus panniers are included on the K or RT. But I do get the attraction to these beasts. Nice review as usual sir! Cheers!
Cheers T Sav....
I've found your reviews to be informative and it's so hard to be objective on the big BM. But like you, I found my BMW GSA to be much more comfortable touring long days than my 1190R KTM but in the dirt the KTM felt so much more at ease than the BM. 21" front wheel and WP suspension is very hard to beat off pavement.
I took delivery of mine here in the US 2 weeks ago. I was so impressed with the Rallye spec bike, I traded my old GSA(2014) and my K1600GT the day I saw it.
The new GSA was so familiar compared to my 14 model year, but It does seem to have some notable changes to engine smoothness and maybe a little more performance.
However, I've lost a few mpg's. Went from consistently getting 52 mpg on my 14, to 46-48mpg on the new Rallye. The new color and graphics is just superb IMHO,
Keep up the good reviews,
Wow, that’s almost perfect now, they keep making things better.
Agreed....how do they do that!
Thank you very much for making this review happen. One of my many self-imposed hurdles for pulling the trigger and getting a GS has been the dash. I want my speed to smack me in the face, and I want to know my engine speed.
That is glorious. Just everything but the kitchen sink on that and it looks great. So much $$$ but oh my...
Agreed!
I wonder if I'm the only American that feels claustrophobic riding along on these narrow roads... Great review, TMF!
You're not the first to mention it so I think not..... :0)
Great review TMF, I am looking to renew my 2014 GSTE and already have the Nav VI so I am glad you showed the new TFT display as I thought it may be surplus especially for all the money as an extra but from your report it looks like it is worth having so looking forward to you more detailed video on that. I took a 2017 GS out which was keyless and I initially thought it would be a gimmick but as I am always loosing my keys I would definitely get it, I also really like the Rallye but not the seat or screen.
Thanks mate, another good one. I will probably buy a GS (not Adv) with the new display, so am looking forward to your detailed review of it.
Rgds
Glenn
Stay tuned!
Just love your reviews and videos, mate, but on top of them all - the GS videos are the best.
And this one is no different.
Just got myself on my first bike (it's a 2007 Kawasaki Versys) and someday i hope to own a mighty GS myself!!
Keep up with the channel and ride safe!
+Siniša Sharairi Thank you Sinisa - your time will come!
'Bahnstormer' - what a great name that is for a Beemer!
As usual TMF, useful review and very informative. Please post the TFT review when possible and 1 personal request. I'm very interested in the new 310GS, and I am sure a lot of new riders too. Any possible review on that one? That would be great. Keep up the great work!! Regards
I'm riding the G310GS tomorrow.....review to follow...stay tuned!
I love this bike. Money is not my concern. Just want the best riding, best quality equipment and experience money can buy. This BMW R1200 GSA May have tipped the scale for me. I have not heard the horn, to me an important feature with clueless cell phone using caged drivers. If the horn is unacceptable I would add the USA made Denali 120 decibel horn and lastly the Denali or Clearwater high 6k lumen for additional safety awareness and driving lights. Good job here Mate. Thank you.
It a awesome ADV bike. The TFT is a huge improvement.
Another great review, I wonder though after watching a lot of your content are there any bad bikes, up and down the list of manufacturers you have tested and the entire price range from a couple of grand to this you find positives and no matter what you get on you seem to have fun. I think 19K is way over the top.
You're right Dexter, there are no bad bikes out there now, some are better than others but I have to work very hard most of the time to find things I don't like about new machines....makes reviewing them quite tough!
Although it's expensive, it's one of the few motorcycles at this price point which I feel is actually worth the money. Perfect for our gravel covered pot hole strewn roads.
Buy a KLR 650 and save 15000$
Very nice, love the Screen. Looking forward to seeing more on it.
Hi, I know it’s been awhile since you posted this, but I do tend to go back and watch a lot of yours when I change your bike which is quite often thinking of changing my bmw 1000xr to the GS 1200 2018 mainly for my wife to be more comfortable. I have seen your video on the differences, good or bad idea.
Great idea!
Another great video. Love these GSA bikes, I have been debating about purchasing a late 2017 ,model but since watching this I will hold on for the 2018 models to come to the USA (I,m located in the Chicago area).
I was born and lived in the same area as you test ride in so I love to watch and re live my happy youth there. My wedding was at Bray church and the reception was at Monkey Island. OK enough of that I am looking forward the video on the new TFT screen and controller
Keep up the good work
Terence
Nice one Terence - glad I can bring you back some local memories.....
Love this bike. They are expensive but think of it compared to the large touring Harley’s I think you get a lot more for similar money from the BMW. And I’m not hating on Harley’s, I’ve owned 3 of them.
I went and sat on a regular 2018 and 19 today. High mileage 50k, worth the risk, which to pick,
Good review. Now it's harder to choose between the 1290 SAT and this one!
My long term review of the Super Adventure is on the way!
Very hard not to like this bike and review. You always give us facts as opposed to hyperbole but I still think at heart you favour BMW over other brands and I will say I can understand and accept that. What I’m eagerly awaiting is your review and opinions of the new Triumph 1200 XRT. Think I can predict it won’t please you as much as the BMW but that’s where my money is going. Either way, you’re thoughts are always true and worth hearing. No one does reviews this well though, thank you.
Wow - thank you very much for the kind words - I'm looking forward to trying the big new Tiger too, I didn't like the old one but you can rest assured I'm as much of a Triumph fan-boy as I am a BMW one!
Yes, you are and that does come across which is why you’re reviews are so sought after for balance and honesty.
Great review i'am tempted I have had four bikes in the last four years, and have a 016 gs triple black and just love it.
My bike - and so proud of it 😍😍😍 Great review, thank you so much 👍
Fabulous bike you’re a lucky man, thanks for watching - TMF
I have the same bike,same colour etc, great ride ...
Bought mine yesterday! Upgraded from the 800
Congratulations! Happy days....
Well, I live in central Canada so I’ve likely three months till I can ride it.
OH MY... The TFT! I picked up a gentle used 2016 RT and love the instrumentation but that TFT on this GS. OH MY! OH MY! So nice!
+Allan Brown You’ll be interested to see my follow up vid then....
... and the KTM one. ;)
Love love love this new bike. I've got a 2015 GSA TE and once I've sold a kidney (or two) I will be trading up to one of these. Like you probably the Rallye colours as well.
Great review TMF,fantastic looking bike.....love that colour scheme.If I was going for a BMW I'd probably go for the 800......the 1200 looks massive, but saying that I've never actually ridden one.
You'd be amazed how agile they are once on the move....
Same as previous review, I'll take one . Some day, watch out for the old bill or nick as you English chaps say. Bloody good review mate.
+Eric Van Tilbury Thank you Eric....
Great review so happy to see this so soon. I do think this is the Rally edition though with street tires and comfort seat. Rally has the blue frame and some other bits. EDIT nope just checked local website here in town, not rally, its a premium color scheme on the GSA. Btw since we are comparing import pricing, this is what a fully loaded one costs in the states... 2018 BMW R 1200 GS Adventure Light White / Cordoba Blue Premium $24,790.00
EDIT wow saw another vid and saw the bikes manual and in the US it is Rallye.
Sounds about the same as here then...i.e. expensive!
The speedo is the reason I had to upgrade it to the 2019 with the TFT as I couldn't read the old dials on the the 2017 ..crackling bikes though 👌
Excellent video - loads of info about the new bike. It amazes me how they manage to make a great bike even better. Can't wait to go for a test ride. By the way - lovely roads and scenery!
Thank you Tony - and yes I wondered about that too, but the bike is a definite improvement on my 2014MY GS....I think you'll like it....
Great review TMF, after my test ride on a GS my only complaint was the numerals on the analog speedometer. I simply could not read it quickly enough and keep my eyes on the road. Yes the Nav 5/6 can display speed but that surely defeats the point of the GPS. I had the TFT demonstrated by the “sales assistant “ and it was a no brainer to add to my new bike order, the downside was another £500 to the end bill. Only 8 days to go. :- ))
Nice one Ed - exciting times waiting for a new bike! Look forward to hearing how you get on with the TFT....stay tuned for my video on that!
Awesome review as always: Just a quick note. Please just give the phone's lens a quick wipe before starting to film (was comparing the quality of this review to your review of the standard GS Rallye.
Good idea! Sorry!!
good wee review....I do like the new screen, I think you can it in the standard GS
Oh man I am jealous, having only semi recently been riding the GS is very much my number 1 bike to get. While I dont really go off road much the way it looks and sounds is so damn appealing and im not really a big fan of sports bikes. Looking to do my A2 and get the 310 GS very soon. Cheers for all the work you put out, its helped me along quite a bit
Glad to have been of assistance!
Well done sir. I love my 2016 R1200 GS!
+Brad Bilski Cheers Brad
Great review, thanks so much! I have just purchased this model, used, and this gives me a great insight into what I can expect! 😀
Great choice - congratulations and enjoy!
Nice review. Personally I prefer the Nav 5 over the 6 as the matte screen is a lot easier to read, and I prefer the lack of glare.
+Lee W Yes I’m with you on that...
Best Bike on the World.
I ride a 2018 Modell, Exclusive.
I love the GSA.
Another excellent review TMF, I certainly enjoyed that. I'd be interested to hear how you compare this to the BMW RT? Obviously the RT is road focused but most people including you tend to not go off-road on these machines, just a thought?
Neck and neck in terms of readability Paul, I guess it comes down to which style of bike you prefer....
As attractive a touring package the R1200GS Adventure is with optional paniers and top box, consider a realistic alternate choice for the same amount of money - The 205 HP 4-cylinder Boxer powered Subaru BRZ. While you are in shock consider: fully synchronized 6-speed manual gearbox, RWD sport suspension w/ limited slip differential, auto climate control & heater, an integral roof, VCS, TCS, ABS, 6-way adjustable bucket seats for two, Starlink multimedia, airbags, a rear seat & small trunk, plus power windows! I already own four motorcycles. This makes sense.
say wooot?
As always, awesome review, cheers from the tropical Costa Rica
+pablo aguero Thank you Pablo - brilliant to have you watching from all the way over there....
I only went and traded my Ducati Multistrada Enduro for the exact bike your riding, I did tell you to go try the enduro, It is a great bike but think i got a lemon, the gear box was like a box of spanners, could find false neutrals between any gear, so clunky and would tell me it was in neutral when was still in gear. Made it not fun to ride but could have been amazing. The GSA just does it, Not with Italian flare but just does it all. TFT is pretty cool, Nav is is way over priced but works well with the wizz wheel ...
Ha, I now have buyers remorse, I’ve had mine for a year and love it, love that tft. Go on TMF........get one.
...way beyond the budget or a retired fella like me!
Mate your reviews are awesome!
A very good review! I obviously did the right choice, just have to wait until end of March. Give me some more, so the wait is bearable.....😊
Stay tuned Andy - more to come!
As always love watching your vids! I have been waiting for this one in particular as I have half of the money saved and might I say it's very hot! The TFT screen is what did it for me but I am not sure they are available yet in the US market.
As to the cost, most of the bikes you see in the US are Harleys, at least in the southern US where the necks are tinged with red. HD's can and do set folks back easily $30k US so $28 for the BMW fully loaded isn't far off...
....in that case, get your order in, beautiful bike!
Excellent review as usual TMF. The speedo on the 2017 model is as you say very difficult to see for those of us with short range issues. I will be very interested to see your review on the TFT screen as I have been trying to find out more about it on line but as yet there isn’t much out there. It would be good to hear your opinion of it and the connectivity side of things. The impression I get is that you have to have the BMW Comms to get the full benefit of the features. I know you aren’t that fussed with the keyless ride and I must admit that neither was I initially but now after four months use on my RT I absolutely love it. Anyway keep up the good work and I shall eagerly await your next vid.
Best wishes
David
Cheers David - stay tuned - that TFT review coming soon!
Great review yet again ,would have liked BMW to have jumped on the illuminated switch gear ala Ktm, and frame plugs for those dirt grabbing recesses.
Bend over woods an aptly named yet beautiful place .
Hehe "W"endover woods!
Very nice review. A shame for bmw that the navi is reflecting, and the new TFT not. Timo to make the the navi better!
Agreed - looks like the nav department didn't talk to the TFT department!
Sold! Just have to find the money somewhere. Keep up the great reviews and insights!
I know the problem!! ...and will do...cheers - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer just to pick your brain, being on a budget less than the GSA, what would you say about purchasing a tracer 900 as an allrounder? It’s nothing near to what a GSA is but it seems to tick all the boxes with regards to value for money, fun, reliability and comfort?
I have also read that BMW is updating the GS800 (900?) range soon, might want to wait for that and see how it stacks up....as you have said in many of your vlogs there are lots of great options out there and more coming all the time :-| ....thanks again for all of your dedication and information.
Another great review! I will be replacing my '15 R1200R with the 2019 model.. the new boxer with VVT should be out then.. The TFT will be coming on more models too. Bahnstormer should give you a percentage! I'm sure you've driven a ton of sales!
Boxer with VVT? Please enlighten me? Sounds interesting
I wish Grumpy!!
I can't find the whole link, but it was in the German Motorrad magazine: www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/new-s1000rr-and-vvt-bmw-boxer
That bike you’re on actually is the GSA rallye you can only get the standard GS in the rallye colours you’re on about with the blue panels etc, another great video though
+scott dove Yes, albeit with a changed screen and seat - cheers Scott.
Good review, as always. A problem i forsee for high tech bikes is by the time they become affordable, to normal bikers on tighter budgets, they will be about 8 years old and i would worry about the reliability. Are the electronics going to work the same, and if not, they could cause a serious accident to the rider who is dependent on the safety aids. Also, if anything goes wrong with the bike, the owner could be faced with a massive repair bill running into thousands of pounds. The same could be said for the cheaper bikes with all the electronics, because after a few years old they could be expensive to fix also. Not like today where people can buy a cheap bike and any problems can normally be fixed quite cheaply but not so in the future
Yes good point - in the main electronics with no moving parts tend to be fairly reliable in my experience, but we shall see what happens once they've stood around on a few cold damp winters nights year after year!
The 1250 cc with 140 hp is comming soon (from the Danish BMW club newspaper).
Really?
Always great vids, I picked up the 2018 R1200 GS Rallye and absolutely love it. Test rode the KTM & BMW back-to-back; both were great, but the BMW has that special feel to it. Thinkng about the Akrapovic exhaust.....is it worth it on this bike?
Personally I don’t think so but they are very popular and many people disagree with me!
Was hoping you would turn it around after your closer inspection, see how the crash bars work...next week a vid on hernia operation,And your first impression.😉
I would like the comparison between the gs and now the new Triumph 1200 xca
Oh God, I'm gonna have to buy one of these !
+Jason Stevens :0)