You are getting a slightly lower velocity reading than you should be getting because of that down angle that you are holding. The distance between the sensors is critical and by holding at an angle you increase the distance the pellet travels and reduce the recorded velocity. This is part of the reason that people report so many differing velocities shooting the same pellets with the same model rifle. I've see this on UA-cam a lot and with people worrying over something like 850fps vs 870fps just an out of parallel position like this can make that much difference. Something to be aware of.
I've started carrying a couple tubes of chapstick when I shoot my breakbarrel airgun. Easy to schmear enough to reliably diesel, not such a pain in the ass as petrol jelly. Just keep the ones you use for dry lips *separately*, cuz... ya know... lead.
the problem with high BC "bullets" in a pellet barrel, is the twist rate wont stabilize them. Normal pellets with a flared tail are intrinsically stable in even a smooth bore. Bullets are not stable without a specific rotation speed. interesting to see which rifles would stabilize the piledrivers :) There is also a possible issue with projectile obturation using a "bullet" not sealing the barrel as well as the pellet skirt method. I guess what im saying is...there is a reason air rifle pellets are shaped as they are
I have to agree with you 100% on that I do know that FX makes slugline barrels that you can change out and that's if you're lucky enough to be able to afford the FX
It's just a gimmick there's too much surface area contacting the rifling for air to push such a big projectile down a 20in barrel they're going to get jammed ,people are going to have problems, buyer beware
@@caseykelso1 you may be onto something. Certainly a good practice to use only in really higher power pcps maybe as mentioned and also clean and lube really really well.
The E >25j means you need 25 joules or 19 fpe to get the pellet out of the barrel So any air gun that produces 19fpe with this grain pellet will work . As long as your gun no matter what power plant you use including spring gun can chrony a 20.99 grain pellet at 639 fps the pellets will not get stuck in the barrel . 639 fps with a 20.99 pellet is 19 fpe .
To be clear these are designed for high end power PCP rifles. I would not even try them in my Benjamin NP2 .22 at about 21 FPE on average. Diablo 18.3 g is about it and works great to the engineering limitations. Very nice video, good job! Dang bro you got hella nice weapons! Very beautiful rifles.
started shooting these out of my impact mk2 a while back they're great 117 yard shot pretty accurate just as good as the fx hybrids on long range accuracy but they dont smack like the hybrids that hollow point aint no joke on the flip side AOA 9.99 150ct piledriver is the cheapest slug in town ill continue to use them for long range shooting but the baracuda match is king up to 50 yards.
I like them because they work just as well even if you put them in backwards by mistake out in the field during low light or because it's cold and you don't care to fumble around to put them in right end first.
I've shot the .177 ones out of a gamo big cat 1250 and it worked fine, it was slow as hell but it was pretty accurate at 15 yards, was able to send penny's zinging off easily
Always had pellet guns living in a forest park like i am. All these years and its only now im starting to get into this 'air rifle' world really . My son is a good shot already hes 14 now. He out points me really regularly lol . Im gonna order some of these for our bsa 22's. We only ever target shoot for fun, but the more of these videos i watch tue more im thinking of joining me and my boy to a local gun club . Cheers buddy 👍👍
I have HW100 in .177. The piledrivers don't work, they get stuck just short of exiting the barrel. Most sub 12ft lb barrels need a snug fitting pellet with a skirt I think, there are some very good compromise designs in the H&N sniper range.
. Wiggling them if you diesel them fill that back hole with Vaseline and then go shooting you'll see the performance and then you'll say thank you my horse it's all about bullet placement look at
Like someone else mentioned here the twist rates in even high power FPS PCP pellet gun barrels won’t stabilize bullets hardly ever at longer distances over 50yds. Even FX impacts have a different twist rate barrel for slugs than pellets. Has more to do with twist rates than power to send them down range at a high FPS.
➕ .177 👍👍👍 Even if it's not Slugs, it's closer to Slugs than pellets?!. In .177, the precision is not disgusting compared to the .22!. At the end you note 22.99g instead of 20.99g, did you weigh them heavier than expected? Thanks
So I shoot the .177 Piledrivers at 954fps for 42.45fpe. But I'm using my Cothran powered Disco. I shoot Prairie Dogs out to 150yds. Not a high-end rifle, stock Crosman barrel, but they like speed. You will need to get a rifle that has a lot of power.
AirgunnerCA From 3000-2000 I get 10 shots with an average of 914fps/39fpe. Now this is a Cothran valve and it allows me to fill the smaller Disco tube to 3000. It's not going to get a peak curve, this setup is for power and hunting. It's just plain fun to shoot.
AirgunnerCA But it's not as hard as one would think. If you are handy and don't have issues working on your own rifles, it can easily be accomplished. Just do it!
Methinks these are for 20+ft lbs these get stuck in some sub 12ft lbs. I have some left in 177 but the only 177 rifle I have failed with these. I wouldn't mind trying them out in a close work/take down situation.
I wonder if they would shoot better if you turned them around and let the skirt become a hollow point ??? That's the beauty of air gunning with a pcp and it might shoot more accurate. Also it's more of a slug than pellet somewhat similar to the H&N grizzly 25/30 cal Might try these in my 22 cal neutron star or hercules bully.
looked these up on amazon and they show 4 and 1/2 stars, looked up on fake spot and they say that the reviews on amazon are fake it gives it an F on the reviews. love fake spot
The only pellet I can get to fly straight out of my gamo is the flat nose ones... tried them all and they walk about a half inch at only 20 yards but the flat nose I can stack on top of each other out to 100 yards. I painted a shovel yellow and can ping it every time out at 200 yards... I'm really lobbing it out there but they still fly straight. I would like getting a .22 next any suggestions on a long range pellet?
There's a very in depth video about the benifits of these pellets but they have the trajectory of a rainbow and they cost or lots IL stick to crossman accupell and jsb exact and good old bisley hollow points
I have tried these, throwing a rock is more accurate. They tumble in what ever I have tried them in. If you DID hit something, you'd do a lot of damage, but hitting something is problematic.
With all that surface area contacting the rifling pellets are going to get jammed in the guns that aren't powerful enough to push them through buyer beware
@@jamesdenny4734 because at my range last year some man had a Tilly hat rested on the barrel of his underlever hatsan while he shot his PCP air arms and the names just stuck even my rfd calls them hatstand now
A break barrel pushing a lead pellet out at 1200 fps is not enough for the piledrivers? I just want to get that understanding before I purchased these. Btw, it's a nitro piston 2 rifle.
hatsan CRAAAAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's not 1,000 fps they're using something very light use the pellet that's good fr your rifle that way the piston is not smashing you have to have a cushion of air to slow the piston down check into it
I am new to air gun and would like to plink in the backyard. Since I am not good and need to consider catching stray pellets that misses the target. What do you used as a backstop to prevent stray pellets wondering onto neighbor's yard?
A golf flag will catch a pellet. But a couple of old quilts wilm stop vertualy everything. If using a springer do not hold it tightly. (Stick to 12-14grain pellets)
Have to try some of these! Ive been shooting a lot of the Sniper Magnums in my Gamo Coyote of late, haven't stretched it out yet but accuracy and ability to deal with wind has been exceptional out to the 15m ive had available. I never researched these just saw them and grabbed them , interesting about the claimed increase in BC, which does make sense. Ive chronied them with my labradar and will have a look at the velocities as they go down range and see if their claim rings true! I was getting about 750fps at the muzzle with my Gamo Coyote and the 15 grain sniper magnums.Did try them in my most powerful springer, a Diana model 50t01 underleaver, shot them about 450fps, with scary ricochet's! Im sure they would leave the barrel on a low power springer,just not very fast! my bet is 150-200fps for these 15 grain ones i been shooting, will try later in the week in a model 27!
dunxy exactly they’re really only for high power airguns, no point in shooting them if you can’t get them over at least 800fps. And if you have a gun that likes them you’re in business 👍
ONLY FOR PCP AIR RIFLES. I don`t even think my Benji Trail NP2 at about 21-22 FPE can handle them. Anyone try these in OTHER THAN PCP air rifles? Did they work in your rifle or ?????
I have used them in several springers a sub 12lbft. Purfectly fine as long as range isnt expected. Make a right mess of a rat at 15yds . No over penatration.
The Gamo Swarm Magnum Gen 2 (22) can handle these easily, they dont stuck in the barrel( nonsens), little slower but a lot bigger impact than lets say the H&N Baracuda Green....
@@ΑλεξανδροςΑμανατιδης-ι7ε also the main reason they say PCP only is due to the back pressure on the mainspring. Causes extra ware on your seals and spring.
@@JOELCONLEY its a big gun more than 4kg and it is1.2 meters long ,it has a very big spring in it by design it recoils of course but it is accurate and it shoot 10.5 grain pellets at 50 yards completely flat . the model is gamo hunter 1250 there are many variations of this one .
Why does pellet gram and grain never make sense a 1.645g, 25,39gr weighs 0.25 grams?is it not just a 0.25gram bullet???? Wat is this g and gr mix while grain here actualy is grams
Have you tried any pellets/bullets/projectiles (whatever you would like to call them) from Mrhollowpoint? I haven't yet but Im going to order in the next week or so I'm just waiting for my new chronograph to come in. I have heard mixed reviews but I'm always looking for something different to see what my gun will like the most for hunting or for longer range plinking around 80 yards and up I'd really like to find my limit but really I'm limited to 95 yards on my property to shoot safely (if any of you viewers out there are in the southcoast Massachusetts area and have more land and shoot let me know😃)
Yes but they go slow. I wouldn't use them in one to hunt small game past 10-15 yards. They go too slow and the drop is bad and combined with low accurcy Your better off with a heavy weight domed pellet or a hollow point for the results you want. They are made more for pcp guns so I would buy a different pellet
How do. You get permission go shoot ground squirrels on farm properties. Do you seek out the land owner or do they fund you. Also what is your go to air rifle for small game hunting?
kevin shifflett you have to seek them out, not all of them will like the idea of having a stranger shooting in their land. So it’s all about trial and error eventually you’ll land one. I’d offer it for free, because let’s be honest helping out a farmer and shooting your gun is fun by itself lol for small game hunting my .25 wildcat is my go to right now because it’s produced more consistent shots and is way more forgiving.
Kenith Almeida I wish I could give you an exact length but I don’t have an accurate measuring devise, all I can say is they’re shorter than predator polymags, I’m surprised they don’t fit your mag....
the aerodynamics is overshadowed by how heavy they are, airguns are most popular in countries that cant own firearms and in those countries airguns have very limited power outputs by law, so these pellets are too heavy for the majority of airguns sold worldwide and thats why they are not popular.
The twist Tate for tour gun is not sufficient enough to be shooting these kind of bullet shaped bullets as in any real powder burner the twist rate is way more twists than the average air rifle twist rate due to the lack of the drag effect instead they rely on the weight and really fast twist rate to keep them flying straight and steady but I've seen some guns on youtube that shoot them good like the fx impact and some other air rifles check out airgun depot they have the vid
Diantre Creagh you’re 100% correct but I thought what the heck I’ll give em a go and see how they perform on my guns but I was more interested on their performance and yeah they perform! We need more pellets/ bullets like these to get the most out of our airguns but the way I see it they’ll most likely only perform well on more advanced barrels in the near future
AirgunnerCA yeah the sad truth and honestly ur not gonna get any good groups out of cheaper guns which sucks ya know cater to the larger variety but its all good I plan on gettin that air arms s410
AirgunnerCA a buddies selling his for 300 great shape 1month old seals and already know the pellets the gun likes sounds pretty good to me and ur not lyin these things are dinosaur rare
They are, only a few air guns out there, in the $1000s area, with special barrels can shoot these accurately. So far with what I own they don’t shoot well.
@ADEBISI ADEBISI are they effective in your spring gun ? i have a gamo hunter 1250 insanely strong spring gun 27 foot pounds that can shoot them at 750 fps according to data . Will they worth my time a money hope you can answer this .
@@edgarlombera7066 as fast as a stock gauntlet typically shoots pellets. Which when shooting the piledrivers was about halfway through the barrel. My other pellet guns had no issues with them just the gauntlet.
@@edgarlombera7066lol my cfx is older than most school kids... Bought before 2010... These slugs were originally an english brand.. the 4.5 slug also came in a 4.46.. coz some guns jammed on the 4.5.. Came in a lil grey box.. Lots of fun these rounds... when you hit a fat pigeon the momentum of the round would just smack the bird off its feet.. like those metal targets that drop.... i have 1 round in a tin still... for memories... That cfx has a few thousand rounds thought it already still shoots 100s . . . Swarm maxim for me next... Still .177... accurate and takes down large ferel cats no issues..
They're not pellets and they're rubbish slugs. I would say they are a very bad design the back skirt well it isn't a skirt it goes the opposite way so the air will travel around the it which you will then lose lots of energy a very bad design. The old wasp Magnum slugs are so much better.
@@lee4847 can split a cd side on (hung on fishing line so that it can spin) ive just noticed tbese are nuch lighter than the last ones i had. Nearly 30gr .
They don't fit! These pellets look cool but will not work in my umarex gauntlet. They will not fit inside the barrel. I'm shooting at .22 Cal. Do not by these waste of money. I noticed he had trouble loading them. From some reviews on other videos they don't work on various gun either...
You are getting a slightly lower velocity reading than you should be getting because of that down angle that you are holding. The distance between the sensors is critical and by holding at an angle you increase the distance the pellet travels and reduce the recorded velocity. This is part of the reason that people report so many differing velocities shooting the same pellets with the same model rifle. I've see this on UA-cam a lot and with people worrying over something like 850fps vs 870fps just an out of parallel position like this can make that much difference. Something to be aware of.
I've started carrying a couple tubes of chapstick when I shoot my breakbarrel airgun. Easy to schmear enough to reliably diesel, not such a pain in the ass as petrol jelly. Just keep the ones you use for dry lips *separately*, cuz... ya know... lead.
the problem with high BC "bullets" in a pellet barrel, is the twist rate wont stabilize them. Normal pellets with a flared tail are intrinsically stable in even a smooth bore. Bullets are not stable without a specific rotation speed. interesting to see which rifles would stabilize the piledrivers :)
There is also a possible issue with projectile obturation using a "bullet" not sealing the barrel as well as the pellet skirt method. I guess what im saying is...there is a reason air rifle pellets are shaped as they are
I have to agree with you 100% on that I do know that FX makes slugline barrels that you can change out and that's if you're lucky enough to be able to afford the FX
It's just a gimmick there's too much surface area contacting the rifling for air to push such a big projectile down a 20in barrel they're going to get jammed ,people are going to have problems, buyer beware
@@caseykelso1 you may be onto something. Certainly a good practice to use only in really higher power pcps maybe as mentioned and also clean and lube really really well.
The E >25j means you need 25 joules or 19 fpe to get the pellet out of the barrel So any air gun that produces 19fpe with this grain pellet will work . As long as your gun no matter what power plant you use including spring gun can chrony a 20.99 grain pellet at 639 fps the pellets will not get stuck in the barrel . 639 fps with a 20.99 pellet is 19 fpe .
Work in 12lbft no probs
I just bought some more field target trophy pellets and some sniper medium both H&N good stuff
To be clear these are designed for high end power PCP rifles. I would not even try them in my Benjamin NP2 .22 at about 21 FPE on average. Diablo 18.3 g is about it and works great to the engineering limitations. Very nice video, good job! Dang bro you got hella nice weapons! Very beautiful rifles.
started shooting these out of my impact mk2 a while back they're great 117 yard shot pretty accurate just as good as the fx hybrids on long range accuracy but they dont smack like the hybrids that hollow point aint no joke on the flip side AOA 9.99 150ct piledriver is the cheapest slug in town ill continue to use them for long range shooting but the baracuda match is king up to 50 yards.
I like them because they work just as well even if you put them in backwards by mistake out in the field during low light or because it's cold and you don't care to fumble around to put them in right end first.
My Daisy 880 recently brought me to your videos. Good stuff!
I've shot the .177 ones out of a gamo big cat 1250 and it worked fine, it was slow as hell but it was pretty accurate at 15 yards, was able to send penny's zinging off easily
I love these pellets and have used them for years......you should review the Eun Jin Shark pellets , they are also excellent.....
Thank you for this video. It is applicable for me now in 2019
Always had pellet guns living in a forest park like i am. All these years and its only now im starting to get into this 'air rifle' world really . My son is a good shot already hes 14 now. He out points me really regularly lol . Im gonna order some of these for our bsa 22's. We only ever target shoot for fun, but the more of these videos i watch tue more im thinking of joining me and my boy to a local gun club . Cheers buddy 👍👍
That’s great to hear 👍 teach em while they’re young so they can appreciate it more later on
It's pretty cool that Airgun Depot has all the quick conversions on their site.
I have HW100 in .177. The piledrivers don't work, they get stuck just short of exiting the barrel.
Most sub 12ft lb barrels need a snug fitting pellet with a skirt I think, there are some very good compromise designs in the H&N sniper range.
. Wiggling them if you diesel them fill that back hole with Vaseline and then go shooting you'll see the performance and then you'll say thank you my horse it's all about bullet placement look at
Bruh ur speaking in moon tunes
Like someone else mentioned here the twist rates in even high power FPS PCP pellet gun barrels won’t stabilize bullets hardly ever at longer distances over 50yds. Even FX impacts have a different twist rate barrel for slugs than pellets. Has more to do with twist rates than power to send them down range at a high FPS.
You are 100% correct
The high pressure air expands the skirt to grip barrel
➕ .177 👍👍👍 Even if it's not Slugs, it's closer to Slugs than pellets?!. In .177, the precision is not disgusting compared to the .22!. At the end you note 22.99g instead of 20.99g, did you weigh them heavier than expected? Thanks
Great video...ive tried the h&n grizzly i wonder how they would stack up in a pellet vs pellet review
So I shoot the .177 Piledrivers at 954fps for 42.45fpe. But I'm using my Cothran powered Disco. I shoot Prairie Dogs out to 150yds. Not a high-end rifle, stock Crosman barrel, but they like speed. You will need to get a rifle that has a lot of power.
Monkeydad1969 that’s pretty cool bro 👍 how many shots do you get from it?
AirgunnerCA From 3000-2000 I get 10 shots with an average of 914fps/39fpe. Now this is a Cothran valve and it allows me to fill the smaller Disco tube to 3000. It's not going to get a peak curve, this setup is for power and hunting. It's just plain fun to shoot.
Monkeydad1969 definitely and that’s what it is all about, it’s pretty rare to see .177 pushed to its limits but when it works it works
AirgunnerCA But it's not as hard as one would think. If you are handy and don't have issues working on your own rifles, it can easily be accomplished. Just do it!
Monkeydad1969 exactly, but too many people are scared to play with high pressure equipment lol
Methinks these are for 20+ft lbs these get stuck in some sub 12ft lbs. I have some left in 177 but the only 177 rifle I have failed with these. I wouldn't mind trying them out in a close work/take down situation.
I wonder if they would shoot better if you turned them around and let the skirt become a hollow point ??? That's the beauty of air gunning with a pcp and it might shoot more accurate. Also it's more of a slug than pellet somewhat similar to the H&N grizzly 25/30 cal Might try these in my 22 cal neutron star or hercules bully.
Will they work with the Hatsan 125 break barrel though? It’s more powerful than most PCP rifles
Might work but is not neccesary
I have this but in 30cal it is a bullet,whit FX-BOSS 30cal ,110JOULES ENERGY 850/900fps
looked these up on amazon and they show 4 and 1/2 stars, looked up on fake spot and they say that the reviews on amazon are fake it gives it an F on the reviews. love fake spot
Great pellet/slug I’ve used in .22. I wish they made them in .25
Unfortunately they’re discontinued.. I’d love to try these in a pcp for me.
Tic Tac rounds awesome, comprehensive video thank you
Where are you located? Would you be willing to meet up sometime. I’m in sf Bay Area.
How do you get so many pellets to test ???
Single life at the time lol
The only pellet I can get to fly straight out of my gamo is the flat nose ones... tried them all and they walk about a half inch at only 20 yards but the flat nose I can stack on top of each other out to 100 yards. I painted a shovel yellow and can ping it every time out at 200 yards... I'm really lobbing it out there but they still fly straight. I would like getting a .22 next any suggestions on a long range pellet?
There's a very in depth video about the benifits of these pellets but they have the trajectory of a rainbow and they cost or lots IL stick to crossman accupell and jsb exact and good old bisley hollow points
You know, I'm actually tempted to run some of these through my Impact slug liner, and see how they perform by comparison to NSA slugs.
How do you think these would work in a gun that uses 209 shotgun primers as a propellant?
Would these be compatible with a Gamo Urban .22? Or does the size conflict with the magazine?
They look like flying Tic Tacs
I have tried these, throwing a rock is more accurate. They tumble in what ever I have tried them in. If you DID hit something, you'd do a lot of damage, but hitting something is problematic.
What did you try them in? Bout what fps?
What did you shoot them from ....a catapult ?
I think his video showed different from what you experienced.
With all that surface area contacting the rifling pellets are going to get jammed in the guns that aren't powerful enough to push them through buyer beware
Yes… These were really made for PCPs exclusively. I forgot if I mentioned it or not… great info 👍
Hatsan makes powerful break barrels ans under levers... .177 shooting at 1300 fps and ... .22 shooting at 1000 fps...
They make good stuff but we call them hatstand here
why?
@@jamesdenny4734 because at my range last year some man had a Tilly hat rested on the barrel of his underlever hatsan while he shot his PCP air arms and the names just stuck even my rfd calls them hatstand now
A break barrel pushing a lead pellet out at 1200 fps is not enough for the piledrivers? I just want to get that understanding before I purchased these. Btw, it's a nitro piston 2 rifle.
hatsan CRAAAAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's not 1,000 fps they're using something very light use the pellet that's good fr your rifle that way the piston is not smashing you have to have a cushion of air to slow the piston down check into it
I am new to air gun and would like to plink in the backyard. Since I am not good and need to consider catching stray pellets that misses the target. What do you used as a backstop to prevent stray pellets wondering onto neighbor's yard?
Your mom.
I use a bale of hay, or a small box with a rod inside to hang about 15 shirts to prevent ricochet
abghere just a plate iof steel / wood board of an inch thick
A golf flag will catch a pellet. But a couple of old quilts wilm stop vertualy everything. If using a springer do not hold it tightly. (Stick to 12-14grain pellets)
use the neighbors cat douche bag
I only got'm in 22's an NO PCP just a break. LOL
Still oil them up an fire away.
GOD BLESS
LOL How did it go?
I love the H&N piledriver but they are so hard to find where I live.
James Wiles just order them online.
Have to try some of these! Ive been shooting a lot of the Sniper Magnums in my Gamo Coyote of late, haven't stretched it out yet but accuracy and ability to deal with wind has been exceptional out to the 15m ive had available. I never researched these just saw them and grabbed them , interesting about the claimed increase in BC, which does make sense. Ive chronied them with my labradar and will have a look at the velocities as they go down range and see if their claim rings true! I was getting about 750fps at the muzzle with my Gamo Coyote and the 15 grain sniper magnums.Did try them in my most powerful springer, a Diana model 50t01 underleaver, shot them about 450fps, with scary ricochet's! Im sure they would leave the barrel on a low power springer,just not very fast! my bet is 150-200fps for these 15 grain ones i been shooting, will try later in the week in a model 27!
dunxy exactly they’re really only for high power airguns, no point in shooting them if you can’t get them over at least 800fps. And if you have a gun that likes them you’re in business 👍
ONLY FOR PCP AIR RIFLES. I don`t even think my Benji Trail NP2 at about 21-22 FPE can handle them. Anyone try these in OTHER THAN PCP air rifles? Did they work in your rifle or ?????
I'm wondering the same thing. I wanna put them in a break barrel NP2 .177.
I have used them in several springers a sub 12lbft. Purfectly fine as long as range isnt expected. Make a right mess of a rat at 15yds . No over penatration.
I have used them in Hatsan Flash and get great results. I have tried in Ben Trail and they shoot a dot to dot and a half low at 20yrds.
@@Danielhenning86 does that mean they shoot well in your Ben?
The Gamo Swarm Magnum Gen 2 (22) can handle these easily, they dont stuck in the barrel( nonsens), little slower but a lot bigger impact than lets say the H&N Baracuda Green....
might want to mention those pellets are for PCP guns only
is there a reason for that except the power needed ? i have a break barrel with 27 fpe in 0.177 which is more than enough as power goes
He did in the video 😂
@@ΑλεξανδροςΑμανατιδης-ι7ε how are you getting 27fpe out of a Springer?
@@ΑλεξανδροςΑμανατιδης-ι7ε also the main reason they say PCP only is due to the back pressure on the mainspring. Causes extra ware on your seals and spring.
@@JOELCONLEY its a big gun more than 4kg and it is1.2 meters long ,it has a very big spring in it by design it recoils of course but it is accurate and it shoot 10.5 grain pellets at 50 yards completely flat . the model is gamo hunter 1250 there are many variations of this one .
the hollow end is called the skirt
Why does pellet gram and grain never make sense a 1.645g, 25,39gr weighs 0.25 grams?is it not just a 0.25gram bullet???? Wat is this g and gr mix while grain here actualy is grams
Do they fit 357 revolver has shells you load with bbs or pellets
Hey man how good is the quality of the slugs. I might give them a try from my hatsan nova in .177
Have you tried any pellets/bullets/projectiles (whatever you would like to call them) from Mrhollowpoint? I haven't yet but Im going to order in the next week or so I'm just waiting for my new chronograph to come in. I have heard mixed reviews but I'm always looking for something different to see what my gun will like the most for hunting or for longer range plinking around 80 yards and up I'd really like to find my limit but really I'm limited to 95 yards on my property to shoot safely (if any of you viewers out there are in the southcoast Massachusetts area and have more land and shoot let me know😃)
_can it use in co2 pellet pistols?_
Will they work in a break barrel
No sir
Yes but they go slow. I wouldn't use them in one to hunt small game past 10-15 yards. They go too slow and the drop is bad and combined with low accurcy Your better off with a heavy weight domed pellet or a hollow point for the results you want. They are made more for pcp guns so I would buy a different pellet
iwonder if these would do in my Gamo fusion gen 2 177. Break barrel. the fusion gen 2 has a fps of 1300
I don’t see why not but ppl have had issues with them getting stuck, don’t know if they were using low powered air rifles
I shoot these all day out of my break barrel Crossman diamondback
Nice Video, Thanks for sharing 👍
Ralph Jr. Vargas as always thanks for your view bro!
Why are they loose are they same size in diameter
Can I use these with a break barrel .177. Its 1200fps using lead and 1400fps alloy.
What rifle are you using? Thanks!
@@sixstringsdown1 Benjamin golden eagle. .177
Someone in another thread said the reason for being PCP only is it will give more wear on your seals because of back pressure.
Have any left? I’d love a tin in .22
My Daysi 880 shoot the 177 with no problem 😂👌 I haven't try it on my maxi swarme 🤔 but I won't it's a expensive rifle I don't what it to get damage 😂👌
Can these be seated in a break barrel?
Ryan's Adventure & Info Yes they will
can u use them in a nitro piston or springer
Hey bud how can I get in contact with you for a hunt. I live in the central valley. When I get my first pcp air rifle.
Xia Vue hit me up in edgarlombera1992@gmail.com bro
How do. You get permission go shoot ground squirrels on farm properties. Do you seek out the land owner or do they fund you. Also what is your go to air rifle for small game hunting?
kevin shifflett you have to seek them out, not all of them will like the idea of having a stranger shooting in their land. So it’s all about trial and error eventually you’ll land one. I’d offer it for free, because let’s be honest helping out a farmer and shooting your gun is fun by itself lol for small game hunting my .25 wildcat is my go to right now because it’s produced more consistent shots and is way more forgiving.
Can you shoot these out of a break barrel rifle?
No sir..
I have tried..
You’ll ruin your gun, the piston will most likely give out
Will these work in a Crosman P1322 .22 caliber American Classic pistol? I need to get up close and personal.
Thanks
Just Plinking
Hello, Whats the length of .177 pile drivers, They dont fit my FX Mag
Kenith Almeida I wish I could give you an exact length but I don’t have an accurate measuring devise, all I can say is they’re shorter than predator polymags, I’m surprised they don’t fit your mag....
the aerodynamics is overshadowed by how heavy they are, airguns are most popular in countries that cant own firearms and in those countries airguns have very limited power outputs by law, so these pellets are too heavy for the majority of airguns sold worldwide and thats why they are not popular.
Could I shoot this in a 370 FPS break action pistol even no it’s not a pcp
Nooooo… they can get stuck
The twist Tate for tour gun is not sufficient enough to be shooting these kind of bullet shaped bullets as in any real powder burner the twist rate is way more twists than the average air rifle twist rate due to the lack of the drag effect instead they rely on the weight and really fast twist rate to keep them flying straight and steady but I've seen some guns on youtube that shoot them good like the fx impact and some other air rifles check out airgun depot they have the vid
Diantre Creagh you’re 100% correct but I thought what the heck I’ll give em a go and see how they perform on my guns but I was more interested on their performance and yeah they perform! We need more pellets/ bullets like these to get the most out of our airguns but the way I see it they’ll most likely only perform well on more advanced barrels in the near future
AirgunnerCA yeah the sad truth and honestly ur not gonna get any good groups out of cheaper guns which sucks ya know cater to the larger variety but its all good I plan on gettin that air arms s410
Diantre Creagh s410 really? From what I can see they’re almost non available anymore
AirgunnerCA a buddies selling his for 300 great shape 1month old seals and already know the pellets the gun likes sounds pretty good to me and ur not lyin these things are dinosaur rare
Diantre Creagh it’s still a great rifle 👍 one of the first to start it all. Sub 12 or fac?
they look like mini shotgun slugs
What's fpe?
About 29fpe for .22 and .177 about 22fpe if I remember correctly
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They foul your barrel, always leave lead chunks in barrel. There bad for ur gun..
mine will 1200+ with these
I think those are slugs rather than pellets...
They are, only a few air guns out there, in the $1000s area, with special barrels can shoot these accurately. So far with what I own they don’t shoot well.
The piledrivers look like shotgun slugs
keep in mind the .22cal states on the tin, ''for pcp rifles only''..
po dunc definitely! A 30gr .22 will damage your typical springer, not sure about gas rams.
why can i ask
HD SG because spring piston air rifles don’t really have enough energy to shoot a heavy pellets like these and plus it’ll ruin the piston as well.
shadowninja81500 only! These are too heavy for any springer
@ADEBISI ADEBISI are they effective in your spring gun ? i have a gamo hunter 1250 insanely strong spring gun 27 foot pounds that can shoot them at 750 fps according to data . Will they worth my time a money hope you can answer this .
They're called slugs.
Those are what shooters of old called "a lead pill" for obvious reasons. Just someone bringing back the old and pretending it's new.
They get stuck in umarex gauntlets
How fast were you shootings them?
@@edgarlombera7066 as fast as a stock gauntlet typically shoots pellets. Which when shooting the piledrivers was about halfway through the barrel. My other pellet guns had no issues with them just the gauntlet.
To get fpe you x vol x vol. X grain ÷ by 450240 = fpe
Get on with it
Gamo cfx shoots em..
Nice 👍 didn’t know they still sold em…
@@edgarlombera7066lol my cfx is older than most school kids...
Bought before 2010...
These slugs were originally an english brand.. the 4.5 slug also came in a 4.46.. coz some guns jammed on the 4.5..
Came in a lil grey box..
Lots of fun these rounds... when you hit a fat pigeon the momentum of the round would just smack the bird off its feet.. like those metal targets that drop.... i have 1 round in a tin still... for memories...
That cfx has a few thousand rounds thought it already still shoots 100s
. . . Swarm maxim for me next...
Still .177... accurate and takes down large ferel cats no issues..
Hi can you use them in break barrel riffle?
Savio Falcao yes
Yes u can
If use in spring airguns it can put to much tension on spring and shorten its live span
Can u put these in pistols as well
SLUG!!!!!!!
They are kinda like minie balls
They're not pellets and they're rubbish slugs. I would say they are a very bad design the back skirt well it isn't a skirt it goes the opposite way so the air will travel around the it which you will then lose lots of energy a very bad design.
The old wasp Magnum slugs are so much better.
Try them youl find they are very good
Hi Steve.
They shoot straight I give that.
But not good
@@lee4847 can split a cd side on (hung on fishing line so that it can spin) ive just noticed tbese are nuch lighter than the last ones i had. Nearly 30gr .
@@lee4847 as your using a pcp try the heavier 30gr... im going to find these lighter ones and try them in my springer.
If you could speak in the same room as the microphone, that would help.
Lousy microphone I used at the time but I’ll do better later on. Thanks for the advice
Why would anyone buy pellets/slugs that are so inaccurate?
These are no good for anything. They don't work in any ordinary pellet rifle, and the slugs available now for PCPs are far superior.
Shoot speach afterwards wow boar your self. You said that worth like
177 comments lol no more
They don't fit!
These pellets look cool but will not work in my umarex gauntlet. They will not fit inside the barrel. I'm shooting at .22 Cal. Do not by these waste of money. I noticed he had trouble loading them. From some reviews on other videos they don't work on various gun either...
Sure talks a lot
My break barrel likes em
The pile driver has some bad reviews on Amazon
Don't waste your money.
No wayyyy
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