Ep. 43 | The Classifieds Hunter - Ballin' on A Budget
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Ball on a budget - The cost/perceived cost of gear, can be a barrier for those new to hunting. It doesn’t’ have to be! Jim, Mark, Erik and Ryan scour the web for 20 minutes and give 4 comprehensive, incredibly inexpensive, gear breakdowns to get you fully outfitted for a field foray you’ll never forget. We also cover gear buying tactics geared toward minimal impact on your budget and maximum impact on your freezer, offsetting gear costs with meat procurement, a $15 treestand, and more. If you’re new to hunting or just love a hell-of-a-bargain, listen up. This one's for you!
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This is a GREAT old podcast. Especially for someone like me getting back into hunting after a divorce and feeding 3 kids. Thank you!
2 years later Ryan is still waiting for his Cheaper than Dirt order to arrive
I hunted with mil surplus gear for the first 30 years of hunting for pinnies on the dollar.
Here is the problem trying to find a place to hunt is a bit of a pain, public land is scary as hell,don't really trust a drunk with a gun in his or hers hands
I hunt in tan khakis and a army surplus camouflage jacket with hobo blinds and 2X12X24 tree stand boards. Have a Hatfield 12 single that kills deer, turkey, rabbits, squirrel(shorty 1 3/4X #8), grouse, and I am not under gunned when walking through the woods!
That's awesome!
I really liked this video! Since this is geared towards new hunters would a 20ga pump be a better recommendation? Less recoil on the gun, same ammo costs, generally lighter gun, and with more shots than a single shot I creased chance of success. Like a Maverick 88 you can get for about $250 including FFL, shipping, and taxes. Also you can save a lot on clothes if you use mil surplus gear or work wear. Dickies makes excellent inexpensive warm weather gear. I'd spend a little more on boots and just get some muck Boots, they're sized for extra layers and generally useful for stuff outside of hunting. Wet feet suck and your feet won't get wet in those. Some other considerations maybe portable power packs for your cellphone. I'm glad y'all hit on not needing camo. I went duck hunting with my Dad this year and had some success. I was wearing a grey Columbia fleece, khakis, and muck Boots. If you're new, focus on being comfortable it'll make it easier to enjoy the experience even if you don't have success. You're clothes contribute to that more than your weapon.
Fantastic point! We chose 12 gauge in this case pretty much all around, but there's very few things a 12 gauge can do that a 20 gauge can't do and the lower recoil is certainly a plus for newer hunters. Thanks for this input!
For a knife, the stainless Mora Knife is like $19 on ebay and is crazy sharp, and good for skinning. Before ammogedon, you could a CVA 243 single shot with scope for $230 at Academy, or a Mossberg pump sub $300.
I'm moving to Wisconsin after hearing about that kinda hunting
first start listening you guys month ago Can't Get Enough this is my first one in your old Studio
Second or third time listening to this one.
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Great podcast. I started hunting about age 12 with jeans from Sears (remember Toughskins?) and boots from K Mart and cheap ass Tasco binoculars. Single shot Savage 20 gauge break action. It all worked just fine.
If you are in your 20s don’t overspend, but understand a well taken care of set of quality gear will last you a lifetime. Also a big thing to know is guns gold their value very well if you want to get something to start and upgrade later so long as what you get isn’t going to fall apart after a couple seasons.
great podcast for both the first time hunter and long time hunter.
Everything you all do is interesting
I do have camo and I wash it in detergent that has no scents or whiteners. Deer see blue and white as blaring, especially with whitening agents. Those whitening agents rely on ultraviolet light. So, mostly, browns, greens, reds, and oranges are okay. Most important is movement. What you are wearing is not as important as keeping still. Also, hunt into the wind. Approach your hunting spot from downwind. I tend to stay away from oestrus scent or doe urine. I figure the less the deer notice me for any reason, the better. But if you are upwind, they will smell you and your scent hider. On public hunting lands, you have to wear blaze orange to identify yourself to other hunters in the area.
Nowadays, you can get some very inexpensive rifles in a number of calibers including big game. Literally everyone is making a 7 mm Rem Mag or .30-06 Spr for big game. And muzzleloaders. And rifles for large straight walls. All of it quite affordable. And if hunting close range, you don't need a lot of scope. That being said, the wisdom is such that you should spend more of your budget on optics than rifle. More accurately, one might say, afford as much optic as you can.
But you could certainly buy a rife used. I would simply weigh the options. If the price of a new one is only 50 dollars more than used, get the new one. Problem is, you cannot help but ask why this gun is for sale. As long as someone says they simply outgrew it, that is fine.
I have Commander Z backpack. It is the full size frame pack and you can take the bag part off and strap your quartered deer to it. Where I hunt, that is just about the only way to get the deer out of there. Even more difficult is that on opening of gun season and on Thanksgiving weekend, a big hunting time around here, the place I hunt requires that you take the whole deer to the deer check station. They want to measure the on-the-hoof weight and take tissue and blood samples for heath check and to watch out for CWD. So, that is the hard part, dragging a 140 buck out of the garden of Eden. So, I probably need to invest in a deer sled (looks like a toboggan.)
I have the Outdoor Edge Wild Pak game processing kit. A camp stool, a tripod. If I can remember, my binos but mostly just peer through my Diamondback Tactical. A large squeeze bottle of water. And this is key - a full roll of toilet paper. It will happen. Not if but when, and you need to be prepared. Otherwise, you have to spend the rest of the day without socks.
In Texas, I have a super combo license. Hunting, archery, salt water, fresh water, migratory birds, upland game for $68. And an annual public hunting permit to hunt on any of the public lands for $48. They also have a lottery system of "drawn" hunts where you get some guidance and get to hunt some places that normally do not allow rifles but you go in for management hunts. You have to meet for orientation. If hunting with a rifle, it has to be centerfire no smaller than .243 Win. If hunting deer on a drawn hunt with shotgun, you have to use slug. So, yeah, you could use a big one, like .35 Whelen, if that is your bag. Or the popular .450 Bushmaster.
Or, you can get on private land or, if you have a few grand, pay for a hunting lease. There are some outfitters that can get you hunting and the lowest I have seen is $1250 for 3 days and you can get a doe, a buck, and a feral hog. Consider one of my bosses. He spent money on a lease in the southern end of the state. Blind, feeder, fencing to let only deer in, cleaning out a shooting lane. Driving back and forth. Not counting the rifle and other accoutrement, about 8 grand. To get 40 to 80 pounds of meat. (We average about 40 pounds of edible meat, here. And let me tell you, my smoked deer ribs are the stuff of legend, long story for another time.)
When you get a annual public hunting permit in Texas, they send you the hunting maps book. But you can also download from the Texas Parks and Wildlife page in a PDF format to have on your phone or tablet or desktop or laptop. The state is divided into regions. And each hunting area has the seasons and game and means of hunting and a bag limit for that area. For example, I often hunt the Caddo (pronounced kay-dough) National Grasslands WMA. It is actually spread across Fannin County. The south unit is the Ladonia Unit. The north end, about 5 miles from the Red River and Oklahoma, is the Bois D'Arc (pronounced bow (as in archery) dark.)
Drive whatever you can and go walking in the woods with your weapon of choice. I have seen it all. AR-10s. Me with my MVP LR-308 with a wooden stock and Kuiu Camo on it. This season, I will be taking my newest rifle, the TC Compass II in .308 Win. Confirmed it was 1/2 inch on the first two shots. And then switched ammo to a lighter and slower bullet with a lower BC and was shooting 1 MOA with a hot barrel. That was 400 dollars but I did some stuff to it. Muzzle brake, Falcon Strike recoil pad system.
I met a young guy who bought a Mosin Nagant and had it put in McMillan stock. Very nice and quite the conversation piece. Like the other Vortex podcast said, just get out there and hunt. You will learn stuff. And you might just get a deer. And they are not always moving at only just 6 am. I saw a deer bounding across the county road in front of me. A doe. And it was 9 am. One thing, don't look for a whole deer in the woods. Look for the flick of the whitetail. And slow movement. They can move slow when they want to, to evade detection.
You nailed it - movement is key. Regardless of what you are wearing, staying still is the most important aspect.