Go to ground.news/triggernometry to see through media bias and get the full story. Use our link to save 40% on the Ground News unlimited access Vantage plan this month. JOIN our Locals community to hear *Rafe* answer audience questions: triggernometry.locals.com/ 00:00 Trailer 00:40 They’re teaching a corrupted, politicised version of history 04:00 Seek out actual historical sources 05:05 Rafe debunks some HUGE myths 07:39 Why the British Empire was great 11:00 The revolution has already happened 12:41 We made ourselves poorer to end slavery 13:24 These facts made students’ jaws drop 16:29 The long march through the institutions 19:18 Bezmenov’s 4 stages for taking over a society 20:22 SPONSOR: Ground News 21:24 The genius of the West 24:54 Guilt is a Western concept 26:01 Protestantism led to literacy and individualism 27:17 Industrialisation was not driven by slavery 29:51 African Americans now are better off for being descended from slaves 33:29 Generational trauma 34:50 How should people process past wrongs? 35:50 Other good things the British Empire did 37:13 We are being gaslit 37:49 Communism’s youth appeal 39:18 The different species of Marxism 41:04 We’re having our history rewritten 43:10 SPONSOR: Mint Mobile 44:25 The impact of immigration 45:48 Extremism among young British muslims 49:34 The Danish solution 50:32 ‘White British’ will soon be an ethnic minority within Britain 51:15 Minorities are being used for political ends 51:57 Is there hope for the future? 54:09 Why are so-called historians lying like this? 56:52 What’s the one thing we’re not talking about?
As Konstantine mentioned in passing, affluence and prosperity are indeed components of the countercultural movements that are plaguing our institutions of higher learning and every other corner of our Anglosphere at the moment. In the post-war period since 1945, the industrialized world has experienced an economic boom the likes of which are unprecedented in human history. I believe that most of us who were born into this age of abundance and convenience were, like most generations before, genetically preordained to a life of struggle for survival, but instead we were treated to a steady diet of pop tarts and foppish televised cartoons. In short, we were pacified and pampered by an effortless environment of ease and comfort. We were spoiled rotten. Yet, weren't we genetically predisposed to struggle and fight for survival? Our media heroes were fed to us as characters who fought against heavy odds for a moral cause. Superman's motto was to ...."fight for right, and the American way". We grew up coddled and acculturated to a mostly peaceful and prosperous existence, but it was in our genes to fight for a moral cause against evil forces. We needed a cause. Today, the fertile minds of kids are planted by their teachers, their surrogate parents, with the seeds of invented causes to fight and struggle against: institutional racism, global warming, rampant male heirarchy, systemic sexism, gender dysphoria, global warming, Israeli war mongering, transgender discrimination, homophobia, and so on. These arguably nonexistent or over-hyped causes, are just what the doctor ordered to fulfill the pampered generations' primordial need for struggle. We've created in our kids a "Promethius Syndrome". That's what we're seeing unleashed in the affluent societies of our post-war world. Without a real existential threat to our survival, like a war, we will continue to see these frivolous countercultural movements explode on our campuses and in our streets. This is why it is so important to listen to Rafe when he advocates the proper teaching of accurate and balanced history as an antidote to postmodern wokeism. 👍🐻🇺🇲🇬🇧
I’m from Gibraltar and we are extremely proud to be British. My history education is very different from my English wife. We were taught about the British Empire and how it shaped the world. Did it screw things up? Sure it did. But it did better out of the rest of the European Colonisers. People today cannot get through their skulls that we live in one of the best societies in the world, thanks to the British Empire. They are just too caught up in the woke bullshit that is breaking down the fabric of democracy and freedom, through narcissistic virtue signalling and puritanical propaganda. This is why you cannot talk to these jackasses. It’s easy to catch them out because they don’t want to admit that their warped view of our society’s history is exaggerated. KK and Francis get it. They both have roots outside of the West and know the alternative. This mind virus needs to end.
Why are more Muslims radicalized? it isn't radicalized. Their Quran says Jesus will come at the end and kill the antichrist at al-Quds (Jerusalem) and everyone will be Muslim. The Hadiths say not only that, but Jesus wll give the Jews and christians an ultimatum to join Islam or die. They wont stop after Jews and Christians. They'll go after the Buddhists, the agnostics, atheists, LGBTQ. Their religion necessitates the conquest of Jerusalem and the world.
There are families in Cambodia and China whose lives were flipped upside down by communism. Aristocratic and middle class families, reduced to being peasant farmers, and that has had an immediate impact on the next generation who aren't able to seek any kind of compensation. I met a very smart, English speaking Chinese woman and I complimented her on how natural her accent was and asked about her background. Her mother had come from a wealthy family in Shanghai. During the Cultural Revolution she was sent to the countryside and there she stayed, eventually getting married. When she had her daughter, she encouraged her to work as hard as possible and she did. She studied under a blanket in a house with no heating and eventually got a place at a prestigious university. She didn't cry under her blanket and ask for money. It's embarrassing to see people, 8 generations removed from slavery, living in privileged conditions that 60% of the world can only dream of, demanding compensation. But they know this. They know it's nonsense and just want some money.
I often meet a man during my dog walks. He's 90 now and he tells me the story of his grandfather who was shot by the communists in China for being a landowner. His family fled and he spent much of his life in the US (why he can communicate with me) and now in Taiwan. It's always interesting to listen to someone with a direct link to these things.
And the irony is that they can't show any correlation between having an enslaved ancestor and lack of opportunity in the present day. They can't explain why the majority of impoverished communities are white, either.
Also, today kids are being taught that being unscrupulous is no bad thing because being that way is White people's 'karma' & shaming little kids into apologising for all sorts of absurdities @@ninjaproofreader8289
He is your stereotypical grifter blaming symptoms on symptoms while also claiming that going after actual causes is bad because it will upset his boat.
@@ab-hx8qeimagine coming on UA-cam and using a pop culture slang term as a metaphor to describe someone who is perceived as lacking independent thought or blindly following trends. Bahahahaha the absolute epitome of a hypocrite. Thanks, you’ve just made my day 😂
Do you mean the information here is gas lighting or do you mean the west is being gas light be other sectors? (You should be specific or people will bend your words)
No reason for the British to feel ashamed of their culture... For those of us living where democracy and just governance have taken root have the British to thank for them.
@@elliskaranikolaou2550 Greeks didn't export their democracy... It was British political and societal thought combined with hundreds of years of governance evolution, from feudal absolute rulers to Parliamentary democracy that ultimately gave the world the most stable and just system of governance ever established worldwide... And not a Greek to be found in any of it!
@@elliskaranikolaou2550 The word is Greek... The institution of democracy and its establishment worldwide are British. If we'd followed Plato on this we'd all be living under autocracies.
@@howlsatdesertmoon9840 Wrong again. The Romans adopted Greek Democracy and in fact the Roman Republic was a democracy. Its government consisted of the Senate and four assemblies: the Comitia Curiata, the Comitia Centuriata, the Concilium Plebis, and the Comitia Tributa. The ideas of democracy spread through Europe through this force. Roman law became the backbone of most European nations laws. Even British Common law was based on Roman law that the Normans brought to England in 1066.
@@gdr189what was he lying about and where is your proof?! Any time you want to pit your theory against Rafe's RESEARCH LED KNOWLEDGE AND INTELLECT I'll pay to watch the show!
Utterly fascinating. Rafe is a national treasure, him and Douglas are on the front lines of the historical battle for the reputation and survival of Great Britain at this point. I'm enthralled by his explanation of what makes the west unique compared to other cultures with the ban on cousin marriage and the development of the nuclear family. He's an invaluable fountain of knowledge. Great show lads 🎉
Oh yeh, Douglas Murray will be remembered alright. Remembered for writing lowbrow bargain-basement books meant to titillate low-iq members of society with clash of civilisations guff lol Bet you’re another one of these cretins who think Israel can do wrong also lol
That's a pocket square and is purely for show. The handkerchief would be in the inside pocket for actual use. I second the idea that we should dress more smartly however.
I'm British and I know my history is awesome. But I wasn't born into a socio-economic status I couldn't earn for myself. There seems to be a pattern between woke Marxist beliefs and socio-economic status...
It seems to me that Marxist beliefs are most common/popular in the middle class. I was born (quite literally) on a council estate; rated as the roughest in England during the 80s and 90s (Stanhope Estate, Ashford, Kent), I lived there until my early 20s, I then joined the army and saw how the rest of the country lived. My upbringing has me very confident in saying that I despise Marxism. I despise Communists and Communism. I'm not a huge fan of Socialism or its proponents. No one on the estate I grew up on had anything. There were four cars across an estate of 800 houses. The closest telephone was the phone box near the shops. Hardly anyone could afford their own. It made me cringe when Starmer talked about being poor because his Sky TV was cut off for a month or two. Then it made me angry. I know poor, real poor, not what passes for it now (I got my first part-time job at 11 to help feed my sisters; I earned £5 a week and that made a difference for my mum. I left school at 14 to work full-time delivering second-hand furniture; I was the drivers assistant or, as we said back then, drivers mate. I was carrying washing machines, fridge freezers, wardrobes, 3 piece suites, etcetera), and I'd rather not make my kids live through what my whole estate did to varying degrees. Socialists will be the ones who push us back into poverty if we let them. I am waiting for a figure to emerge who can galvanise people to stand against Socialism. I'm not that person, but I could be useful to them.
I'm from Mexico, and while I admire the good qualities and ingenuity of the Aztecs and Mayans, I thank God I grew up in post-colonial Mexico. I wouldn't want to be sacrificed for rain. I'm also thankful I grew up in the era of Pax-Americana when standards of living have never been higher in the history of our species.
Man I love Mexico, and think the Mayas and Aztecs were fascinating. I also know that the Aztecs, especially, had the most fantastically metal society of horrors. Very clean and lawful but absolutely addicted to violence and massacre.
My grand parents fought in ww2 my nan was a land girl , my grandads uncle fought in ww1 and ww2 was offered promotion but said no because he wants to fight alongside his men. But now me a hard worker is called a racist in my own country.
Absolutely brilliant ! Thank you for the most intelligent, cultured interview I have seen since years ! We need to have Rafe educate the public everywhere !! Thank you to Triggernometry for inviting him !
Just left university but completely rejected all the woke ideology that was fed to me and other uni students over the past 3 years, lost friends over it but i'm standing firm. We should be proud of our history, if Britain never had the empire we did someone else would have, it was a dog eat dog world.
If you are English/british you should be proud of your history. But not for the reason this so-called historian is trying to feed you. I get that the woke mob in university made you feel some type of way about your heritage. I get it. But there's a right way, and there's a wrong way, and just because you're angry at the left doesn't mean that the way this man talks about history is the right way You should be careful about "standing firm" about your beliefs because a lot of unscrupulous people will take advantage of that and try to manipulate you and make it seem like they are on your side for their own intrests
Standing firm in his beliefs is exactly what he should do. Especially if they are good ones like being a productive member of society who isn’t crying about things that may or not have happened to a long dead ancestor. The way history is being told at the moment is shocking with the constant hanging of guilt on a country or people’s over things long past. As far as I am aware the dead don’t talk and they have never asked for money.
Why does the right invoke the lifelong democratic Socialist, critic of colonialism and supporter of censorship Orwell to attempt to justify their politics? Just stupid?
... and they openly, and loudly, and PROUDLY proclaim 2 of those 3 slogans... that speech is violence, and diversity is strength. During the recent... medical thing... anyone with eyes to see, could see that they believe the third slogan as well... that freedom is danger.
As Rafe says, academia has always skewed left but now it’s overwhelmingly so and it’s affecting people’s ability to identify good or bad history. The UK’s young are being taught that their own country is the worst, most inhumane ex-Empire to ever exist and that any good there is contributed by slaves or migrants.
History is neither right or wrong. Actions taken may be deemed as right or wrong through a clouded lens of the viewer. The vilification of colonization has become an almost haute couture of sorts. The phenomenon can be illustrated by the example of a person complaining about the stink of the garbage truck going by while they are illegally dumping garbage in a vacant lot.
@@ddz1375 There is badly taught history which is bad history. Think of Maoist teachings. However, your metaphor about the case against colonialism is apt.
@@T1000-s6lI taught for 15 years, I was regularly having to explain the based discussions we had about geopolitics and similar because I was teaching them how to think and critically evaluate their own views, some find that 'offensive' because they have been told that is the name for the feeling they get of cognitive dissonance.
👏👏👏 Thank you so much for inviting Rafe Heydel-Mankoo to your show guys. True knowledge of facts is absolutely crucial to our defence of our unique western culture. Rafe is a true guiding star and certainly one of our bravest warriors.
I'm Irish and have far more respect and far more in common with a proud Englishman than I do an invertebrate Englishman who denounces his ancestors out of fear of standing up for himself.
A quarter of your population is made up of illegal immigrants. I’m actually quite pleased to see your country crumbling from the inside all while you criticize other countries from a morally superior position. You reap what you sow…
A Polish Indian , a Venezuelan, and a Russian Jew are more patriotic about Britain than the average Brit ! (Yes I know that's a loose description !) Very interesting.
He's like an Indian Thomas sowell! Spits facts and doesn't back down from activists. I'm a Muslim of Pakistani heritage born and raised in the USA. I love this country and would fight to defend it if need be. Many within the West are taking it for granted and that's why Europe has been crumbling.
We Yanks fought a bloody war to gain independence from the British Empire, but we kept all the best institutions of Britain, improved on some, and "ran them ourselves". Two and a half centuries later, there are no closer allies and friends than the US and the UK. The Brits think we're crazy in many respects and vice versa. But there's no greater love among nations than the one that binds our two slightly different but cohesive societies so tightly together. It's a shame that both of our distinct but complementary cultures are currently under assault from forces that seek to destroy the historical pillars of Anglo-Western Civilization that have contributed so much prosperity and human flourishing to the world. We both face the destructive forces of undiminishing illegal immigration which packs with it cultural and moral idioms that are proving antithetical to our own. In the US, in stark contrast with previous waves of legal immigration, mostly from Judeo-Christian Europe, this newer crop of immigrants has refused to assimilate into our societies and to adopt our unique political and cultural traditions as integrating new Brits or Americans. The US and UK are also both being emotionally hamstrung by the post-modernist revolutions raging through our institutions of education, commerce, and governance. We seem gob smacked by this intellectual invasion from both without and within, immobilized from reacting appropriately, very much like the proverbial deer which is suddenly caught in the headlights of an onrushing vehicle. It's a big problem, and as Rafe makes clear, it starts with the education of our future generations. Really scares the spit out of me!
Great comment, sums up the hard problem both of our countries face. I reluctantly have come to the conclusion that a return to basics and 'natural justice' is the only solution...
The myth of a special relationship was born out of the UK's declining power, as Thatcher coined the term to hitch her nation onto the US. That's why she pushed hard to set up London as a financial hub for the Anglosphere, and then promoted Globalisation with Reagan. Her hope was this strategy would enable the UK to ride off the back of US manufacturing while grafting as much as they could through Financial services.
Are you for repatriation of the descendants of prior invaders such as the Vikings, Dutch, and Normans? Perhaps you should collect reparations from the blokes before you push them out the door onto the North Sea or Channel? "Cheerio and bon voyage, Mates! And, sorry, gentlemen, we don't accept American Express." 😁🐻🇺🇲🇬🇧🇮🇱🇺🇦
@@courtilz1012 Good point! You don't need the force of arms to invade the British Isles anymore when the victims of your invasion are welcoming you in with open arms, free healthcare, housing, cellphones, free transportation, and guaranteed income. What comes next to merry olde England? Sharia law courts, honor killings, arranged marriages of underage girls, slavery, genital mutilation of prepubescent girls, polygamy, homophobia, misogyny, murder, rape, and grooming? It's all coming to a neighborhood near yours.
The cousin-marriage theory or posit was utterly fascinating. I lived in Italy. Rafe is right. I wonder who practices cousin marriage in the UK these days …..?
The "Biodiversity Chick" website does a great job of showing how the Catholic Church forbidding cousin marriage and the Germanic Manorial System led to the "Hajnal Line" and the rise of the West.
I'm from Australia and yesterday out in public two teenagers walked by me, a boy and a girl. They were talking about Captain James Cook and the boy said, "That's his name, Captain Cook.". The girl asked, "Oh, his name was Captain?" and the boy replied, "No his name was John". One of the most painful conversations I've heard in a while. How is there going to be any hope when kids are spreading incorrect knowledge amongst one another, and why is the education system failing them so much?
Yes, it's nearly as painful realising most Australians don't know of our genocidal treatment of the first nations people. We need a comprehensive history syllabus that covers, the good, the bad and the ugly of our history. Knowing where we came from, will help us understand where we are today.
@@grannyannie2948 Yeah, and people want to tear down his statue as if he caused genocide or something. Fact is he only made landfall twice - in Botany Bay and Cooktown after running aground. All he did was chart the coast and go home.
@@royboy4571 Actually that's a myth. There were massacres on both sides, in regional areas where there was little law. But the law was plain, to injure or murder them was treated the same by law as any other injury or death. And in the populated east coast there is much evidence of this. And a genocide does not result in a large increase in population.
In British Columbia the authorities banned the Potlatch an indigenous ceremony in which the community sacrificed slaves (and some members of villages participated in cannibalism). There were aspects of the Potlatch that was beneficial but when talking about the banning of it there is no mention of the human sacrifice.
I have not heard of this either. That dark element of the potlatch sure isn't being taught in schools in BC. Kids mostly get fed the "noble savage" and indigenous people as stewards of the land tropes.
Italian here, and wrapping up a Master in Historical Sciences as it happens. Totally agreed about the granularity of the development across Europe and yes, Italy, with its North and South differences, in terms of industrialization and ideas. It is not a random fact also that in general Italy is less "ahead" than northern countries, and yes, Italy having remained Catholic (like Spain, Portugal and so on) after the Reformation was not without consequence on that either. I'd suggest a read of Weber's "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism" which, while outdated and definitely using a bit too wide a brush for the analysis, is still a classic on the subject. On a different note, I agree that the woke capture of cultural institutions at least in Italy is a lot less obvious, but it is starting to get traction here as well. Many of my courses/exams have been extremely tendentious, speaking of the usual suspects, such as Anthropology, Ethnology etcetera, but even Geographic History and yes, History of the US have been painful to get through.
Child psychology suggests that the synapse of the young mind is intact until the 3rd decade, ie 20 to 30. In this state the person will want to fit into a group. Hence the attraction of group think and the attachment to a cult. Past that age the synapse breakdown and individuality begins and so as Raife says, the western mind looks to network and share to develop wealth, in all forms not just money. So communist group cult appeals to the younger person. Aren't Universities dangerous
@@kevinpankanin6222 Apparently the brains of left leaning people differ from those who are to the right - the latter have slightly larger amygdalas of the brain - an organ concerned with the security of the individual -and the right emphasises security of a country more
It's a pathetic attempt by the left wing intellegensia to bend over backwards to appease minorities. They don't see our history through the same lense as us, it reinforces the chip on their shoulder and so they other themselves, yet they stay here so we can't be that evil... It's to try and denigrate, humiliate and silence the native British population.
I was brought up in the 1960s. Education was a very different animal in those days. We were taught real subjects like history and geography, as well as the three R’s. Pride in our country was obvious in those days. We were still reeling from the war and times were hard. But here’s the thing. As a nation, we were happy and appreciative of everything we had. We knew how great we were, even as kids. About 51% of all great inventions came out of Great Britain. Our contribution to the world has been enormous. We would most probably still be living in the dark ages, if it wasn’t for our universities and the brilliant minds that came out of them. They are just a hot bed of woke snowflakes these days. We are finished.
51% of all great inventions. What's a great invention. This sounds made up. I mean, the British didn't invent : - Gun Powder - airplane - X-rays - Motor Vehicles - Seat Belts - The Radio - The Light Bulb - The Black Box - The Electric Drill
97 percent of what are considered "science" and "scientific" discoveries in the world were by Europeans and cultures spawned by Europeans (ie. The US). Does that help?
@@royboy4571 No, the British invented the computer, and the Internet, the jet engine, TV, the telephone, the steam engine, which powered the Industrial Revolution, and opened continents. We also invented tarmac for roads and concrete for building. So basically, everything required to build nations. The list is literally endless. By the way, a Brit called Joseph Swan invented the lightbulb. Before Edison patented his idea. I thought everybody knew that. 🙂
Harriet Tubman took refuge in today's Ontario and the underground railway terminus was the northern boarder of today's Canada. This was only possible due to the British abolishing slavery throughout their Empire and enforcing it.
I think the purpose of any culture or religion is to look at the good in them. If you look for the bad, you will find it. If you look for the good, you will find it. That's the key to it all. Look for the good.
Really and ignore the bad. So don't learn from your mistakes. Look for both, and have a rounded view of your history. I mean, the Germans, shouldn't teach their kids about the Nazis.
@royboy4571 Didn't say ignore it. You're projecting that and are too foolish to understand the meaning.. I said look for the good. You actually proved my point
British taxes was still paying off the loan the british used to free salves up till 2011. So anyone paying taxes till then. Well done on your part in freeing them.
I’m an American, 33 year old hybrid from cross pollination of history in all its wonders and horrors. Appalachian lineage for 350-400 years. But if you saw me. You’d see a white man. I see people. Humans. We are one. Life is painful. Subjectively. And objectively. History follows that same formula. Choose courage. Strength. Compassion. And above all, choose life. If you’re heart hasn’t healed from the pain of being alive in this world, then bitterness is tempting. And anger. Then rage. Not unjustified, much of the time. But that breeds hate. And hate is singular. It’s destruction. Nothing else. We are all the same species. It’s a beautiful thing to feel, and see, and know. And the potential is so lovely. Choose life. Let’s honor the pain of our ancestors by living to the fullest extent we can. Not tear it all down, and make their suffering’s, and sacrifices, and lives, for nothing.
I got a degree in Sociology in Canada in the 70's. Almost all professors were Marxist. I found Marxism had some valid points, but I found it to be am easily understood theory for intellectually inferior bullies. If you argued against Marxism, the hegemony of capitalism had enslaved you. Interestingly, hegemony never occurred in communist societies.
Anyone who wants to understand the slave trade in Africa needs to visit Stone Town, in Zanzibar. Traditional African chiefs sold their strongest men and women to Arab slave traders. They sold their own people. If they had chosen not to do that, there would have been no slave trade. The Arab traders saw them as “kaffirs” - It was a dehumanising term for people not of their faith. These men and women were held in disgusting conditions, and were sold on by Arabs to whoever was prepared to pay for them. Nothing much has changed. Al Shabaab, in Northern Mozambique, is still to this day trafficking people. Nobody talks about this much.
@@rowenadavies2411 so buying other people from other groups makes a group better? Especially if the Europeans were Christians who claimed to be followers of Christ? That does make your point so much stronger. WOW
Maybe the best Triggernometry episode EVER. BTW, there IS a chasm between Left and Right. We now have some mutated form of Marxism vs the rest of the world.
Very interesting conversation, thank you 🇬🇧🕊️! Great Britain gave the world the greatest number of inventions. You have an amazing culture and traditions, unique architecture, in my honest but subjective opinion, the best literature… and yet are being severely gaslighted by many. I wish the British to regain the freedom of speech, the opportunity to have open and honest discussions on all topics, without ideologising them and without being labelled. I wish you regain the glory and pride of your ancestors. Much love from Ukraine 🇺🇦
I live in San Francisco, CA, which as far as “woke America” goes, may as well be the capital. But honestly, I think that most people here are fairly reasonable. The far left is very loud, and they silence people by calling them right wing if they oppose the woke ideology, but their numbers are small. The progressive candidate in our upcoming mayoral election has an estimated 2% of the vote. Unfortunately it is true that our teachers are pushing a very woke agenda, and students are eating it up. But that line of thinking is common amongst youth, who think everything should be fair, and haven’t the life experience to realize that not everyone will chip in and do their part for society. By far the biggest problem with California teachers is their pushing trans ideology on students and not discussing it with parents.
Such an intelligent conversation, may I add the woke revolution wouldn’t be so dangerous as it is today, if much less immigration of large numbers of immigrants came cynically to use the west, and never have had plans to integrate
The Protestants did have a major role in America, which started in Europe. They started pushing these ideas of individual sovereignty with the understanding that we are made in the image of God and are all born with God-given rights. Equal value in the eyes of God. These ideas that every man should have access to the read the Bible as it was written was what created the will for the common people to want learn to read. They wanted to read the Bible. This unlocked the power of the people. Then, eventually, the common man could become a preacher, which was the first teachers. These ideas came pouring into America with the Irish Protestants and others from Europe, and their beliefs played a major role in America's founding. These ideas are directly written down in our founding documents. It all comes back to the Bible, and that's something that every citizen should be taught.
@martinvanburen4578 Maybe you need to get an adult to help you read because if you could, you would see that I wrote the original comment. I don't need to read it again because I wrote it. I could write a lot more about ot too
Western history was harsh and cruel at times and disrupted the work. All this is true and yet the progress made in 300 years compared to the 50,000 years before than is remarkable. Condemning it wholesale from a position of comfort is just being by smug.
Being smug yes and also very foolish as if the mind gets into to habit of living in a state of condemning others, it actually becomes very miserable and depressed and judgemental….a horrible way to live which also makes more misery fir a person’s future as this state of mind becomes habitual.
I love history and the perspective it gives me, but my knowledge is limited to public school teaching 80’s and 90s and what I have learned on UA-cam by these incredible historians. This conversation specifically, I feel I should be taking notes, doing in depth research and filling in the blanks that I was left with by my lack of education. This is facilitating.
I am afraid poor Sudan, which was under joint British and Egyptian rule from 1899 to 1956, is the exception to the rule that countries that were British colonies tend to be better off - I lived there between 1981 - 84 and although the people were wonderful, the country was a real sh*thole - desperately poor and underdeveloped - a desultory dictatorship - 95% FGM - nothing worked - there were remnants of past glories - namely the antiquated but still going railway system - and many who spoke good English - but truly a dump - while we were there the president Jaffer Nimeiri escaped to America to make way for the ghastly Muslim Brotherhood and we got out. Truly a tragic place. I honestly think if the British had never left and had decided to properly invest in the country it would be a very different story today. They tried valiantly to wipe out the horrific FGM practice but with very little success. It was in some ways a very brutal and backward place.
I also don't think Ireland is better off due to British input. They lost a huge amount of their population under UK control and also lost their land and were not allowed access to good education. Basically the majority population was kept poor and disenfranchised. Britain fostered the image of the Irish being violent and stupid. The Irish before being invaded and before the Vikings were doing very well and in fact started a lot of monasteries of learning in Europe.
@@jackieblue1267 yes no doubt many foolish things done in history but if people don’t let go of the past, they make themselves miserable about things which can’t be changed, which seems crazy to me.
All civs have done bad things, it's human nature. Nobody's innocent. One difference today is the media influence which tries to sway public opinion. Over 100 years ago, nobody gave a damn about the media like today. Europeans were more advanced, conquered others just like everyone else if they could, but did it globally and dominated. They also brought fair laws, medicine, etc. to some pretty unadvanced civs that are still primitive today. Half of South Saharan Africa still has no electricity and running water today. That's absurd and adds up to about 600 million people. Face it, Euros have had advanced civs in Europe, Eastern Europe, Australia, NZ, USA, and Canada.
Great talk, but must have been recorded some time back as Rafa was on another podcast today talking about how immigration is a massive net loss to the UK according to the OBR. Eurozone, India, China positive. Turkey, Middle Easy, Africa negative. -£450k per immigrant.
Everything Heydel-Mankoo is saying about the way history is taught in Western unis is spot on. At this point, the professoriate are two generations or so removed from the initial postmodern takeover of unis in the 1960s & 70s. I’m not entirely sure what is to be done about having a balanced perspective on history at this point. The field has been so thoroughly deconstructed by postmodern methodologies that recovering true history may be impossible. That being said, dissident historians like Heydel-Mankoo and Ferguson need outlets like Triggernometry to construct an “anti-history” that counteracts today’s far too self-referential historiography.
This was so good. Consider having the author of “Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me” on. He goes through 10 lies and slavery is one of them. The author is a professor.
I'm favoured only God knows how much I praise Him, $230k every 4weeks! I now have a big mansion and can now afford anything and also support God’s work and the church.
Only God knows how much grateful i am. After so much struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place!!
I remember giving her my first saved up $20000 and she opened a brokerage account with it for me, it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me.
Lifted out of poverty by colonization?!!! How have the Maya, the Mik’maq, the Khosa, the Inuit…been lifted out of poverty? You built railroads, yes, but not to benefit the indigenous people. They were built to facilitate the removal of their resources and the products of their labor.
Right. Isn’t it awesome that people are still blind to the fact that they can’t keep themselves from being in one extreme or the other? Ffs. Humans are so fucking blind to themselves and their motives. I hate our species.
YES. The colonial US became the first middle-class English Speaking peoples, enjoying longer lives and meat at EVERY meal and before their colonial masters, the Brits, did.
It's a bit more than railways, it's also things like modern medicine. The indigenous people of my country had no clothes, no houses and no agriculture. Since British settlement their life expectancy doubled. And I have never met one who would like to permanently return to a life of hunter/gathering.
The world would be a much better place if more people paid attention to what is being said here. I do have a different take though on the cause of the differences between north and south Italy, and that is south Italy has a greater integration of the north Africans, but that is racist and not acceptable in our emotionally politically incorrect rules of today.
Complete rubbish to say that British colonialism enriched the economy of the colonies. Under British rule India’s share of world manufacturing exports fell from 27 per cent to 2 per cent as East India employees made colossal fortunes. The marquess of Salisbury, secretary of state for India in the 1870s, remarked that “India is to be bled”, and by the end of the 19th century it was Britain’s biggest source of revenue. Britain's exploitative, racist imperial project in India was awesome in its savagery and vindictiveness - a long and shameless record of rapacity. The nauseating righteousness and condescension pedalled by Rafe and Niall Ferguson in his 2003 book Empire, which argues that like Rafe British imperialism gave to British imperialism gave to the world its admirable and distinctive features (language, banking, representative assemblies, the idea of liberty) and that India, "the world's largest democracy, owes more than it is fashionable to acknowledge to British rule". the world its admirable and distinctive features.
I’ve always liked history and learning about it and also looking at it from different points of views but it’s important to acknowledge all the good the bad and the ugly regardless of the country .
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00:00 Trailer
00:40 They’re teaching a corrupted, politicised version of history
04:00 Seek out actual historical sources
05:05 Rafe debunks some HUGE myths
07:39 Why the British Empire was great
11:00 The revolution has already happened
12:41 We made ourselves poorer to end slavery
13:24 These facts made students’ jaws drop
16:29 The long march through the institutions
19:18 Bezmenov’s 4 stages for taking over a society
20:22 SPONSOR: Ground News
21:24 The genius of the West
24:54 Guilt is a Western concept
26:01 Protestantism led to literacy and individualism
27:17 Industrialisation was not driven by slavery
29:51 African Americans now are better off for being descended from slaves
33:29 Generational trauma
34:50 How should people process past wrongs?
35:50 Other good things the British Empire did
37:13 We are being gaslit
37:49 Communism’s youth appeal
39:18 The different species of Marxism
41:04 We’re having our history rewritten
43:10 SPONSOR: Mint Mobile
44:25 The impact of immigration
45:48 Extremism among young British muslims
49:34 The Danish solution
50:32 ‘White British’ will soon be an ethnic minority within Britain
51:15 Minorities are being used for political ends
51:57 Is there hope for the future?
54:09 Why are so-called historians lying like this?
56:52 What’s the one thing we’re not talking about?
As Konstantine mentioned in passing, affluence and prosperity are indeed components of the countercultural movements that are plaguing our institutions of higher learning and every other corner of our Anglosphere at the moment. In the post-war period since 1945, the industrialized world has experienced an economic boom the likes of which are unprecedented in human history. I believe that most of us who were born into this age of abundance and convenience were, like most generations before, genetically preordained to a life of struggle for survival, but instead we were treated to a steady diet of pop tarts and foppish televised cartoons. In short, we were pacified and pampered by an effortless environment of ease and comfort. We were spoiled rotten. Yet, weren't we genetically predisposed to struggle and fight for survival? Our media heroes were fed to us as characters who fought against heavy odds for a moral cause. Superman's motto was to ...."fight for right, and the American way". We grew up coddled and acculturated to a mostly peaceful and prosperous existence, but it was in our genes to fight for a moral cause against evil forces. We needed a cause. Today, the fertile minds of kids are planted by their teachers, their surrogate parents, with the seeds of invented causes to fight and struggle against: institutional racism, global warming, rampant male heirarchy, systemic sexism, gender dysphoria, global warming, Israeli war mongering, transgender discrimination, homophobia, and so on. These arguably nonexistent or over-hyped causes, are just what the doctor ordered to fulfill the pampered generations' primordial need for struggle. We've created in our kids a "Promethius Syndrome". That's what we're seeing unleashed in the affluent societies of our post-war world. Without a real existential threat to our survival, like a war, we will continue to see these frivolous countercultural movements explode on our campuses and in our streets. This is why it is so important to listen to Rafe when he advocates the proper teaching of accurate and balanced history as an antidote to postmodern wokeism. 👍🐻🇺🇲🇬🇧
WHEN are you gonna have Rudyard Lynch on ... or Hoe_Math?2
I’m from Gibraltar and we are extremely proud to be British. My history education is very different from my English wife. We were taught about the British Empire and how it shaped the world. Did it screw things up? Sure it did. But it did better out of the rest of the European Colonisers. People today cannot get through their skulls that we live in one of the best societies in the world, thanks to the British Empire. They are just too caught up in the woke bullshit that is breaking down the fabric of democracy and freedom, through narcissistic virtue signalling and puritanical propaganda.
This is why you cannot talk to these jackasses. It’s easy to catch them out because they don’t want to admit that their warped view of our society’s history is exaggerated.
KK and Francis get it. They both have roots outside of the West and know the alternative. This mind virus needs to end.
Why are more Muslims radicalized? it isn't radicalized. Their Quran says Jesus will come at the end and kill the antichrist at al-Quds (Jerusalem) and everyone will be Muslim. The Hadiths say not only that, but Jesus wll give the Jews and christians an ultimatum to join Islam or die. They wont stop after Jews and Christians. They'll go after the Buddhists, the agnostics, atheists, LGBTQ. Their religion necessitates the conquest of Jerusalem and the world.
There are families in Cambodia and China whose lives were flipped upside down by communism. Aristocratic and middle class families, reduced to being peasant farmers, and that has had an immediate impact on the next generation who aren't able to seek any kind of compensation. I met a very smart, English speaking Chinese woman and I complimented her on how natural her accent was and asked about her background. Her mother had come from a wealthy family in Shanghai. During the Cultural Revolution she was sent to the countryside and there she stayed, eventually getting married. When she had her daughter, she encouraged her to work as hard as possible and she did. She studied under a blanket in a house with no heating and eventually got a place at a prestigious university. She didn't cry under her blanket and ask for money. It's embarrassing to see people, 8 generations removed from slavery, living in privileged conditions that 60% of the world can only dream of, demanding compensation.
But they know this. They know it's nonsense and just want some money.
More like 80%.
I often meet a man during my dog walks. He's 90 now and he tells me the story of his grandfather who was shot by the communists in China for being a landowner. His family fled and he spent much of his life in the US (why he can communicate with me) and now in Taiwan. It's always interesting to listen to someone with a direct link to these things.
The communists in the USSR , China and other Asian countries killed millions of people.
And the irony is that they can't show any correlation between having an enslaved ancestor and lack of opportunity in the present day. They can't explain why the majority of impoverished communities are white, either.
Also, today kids are being taught that being unscrupulous is no bad thing because being that way is White people's 'karma'
& shaming little kids into apologising for all sorts of absurdities @@ninjaproofreader8289
Rafe is a towering intellectual. Amazing man
A lot of it is common sense
@@Will-thon did you mean he’s really fat? Stop worshiping people and use your own head.
He is your stereotypical grifter blaming symptoms on symptoms while also claiming that going after actual causes is bad because it will upset his boat.
@@greatdude7279
You're talking utter shit....!!
Rafe is a precious soul that needs to be preserved...
@@nw8000 a very fat precious sole. 😂 idol worship is weird.
He needs a much bigger audience and platform.
@@Sharetheroad3333spoken like a true npc.
@@ab-hx8qeimagine coming on UA-cam and using a pop culture slang term as a metaphor to describe someone who is perceived as lacking independent thought or blindly following trends. Bahahahaha the absolute epitome of a hypocrite. Thanks, you’ve just made my day 😂
Fkn hilarious
Rafe is always spot on. If you enjoy his views he is on the New Culture Forum (NCF) channel every week.
I am definitely going to look him up after watching. Thank you.
@@brandonmoorat2263 He also has his own channel.
Great channel
That's a very good channel!
The Great Gaslighting of the West!
Do you mean the information here is gas lighting or do you mean the west is being gas light be other sectors? (You should be specific or people will bend your words)
This video should be part of the UK School's curriculum...... I know it never will be, but it SHOULD be.
No reason for the British to feel ashamed of their culture... For those of us living where democracy and just governance have taken root have the British to thank for them.
Democracy is a Greek invention, not British. And remember you can't have a Westminster style without Democracy.
@@elliskaranikolaou2550 Greeks didn't export their democracy... It was British political and societal thought combined with hundreds of years of governance evolution, from feudal absolute rulers to Parliamentary democracy that ultimately gave the world the most stable and just system of governance ever established worldwide... And not a Greek to be found in any of it!
Still not a British invention. That's simply factually incorrect.
@@elliskaranikolaou2550 The word is Greek... The institution of democracy and its establishment worldwide are British. If we'd followed Plato on this we'd all be living under autocracies.
@@howlsatdesertmoon9840 Wrong again. The Romans adopted Greek Democracy and in fact the Roman Republic was a democracy. Its government consisted of the Senate and four assemblies: the Comitia Curiata, the Comitia Centuriata, the Concilium Plebis, and the Comitia Tributa. The ideas of democracy spread through Europe through this force. Roman law became the backbone of most European nations laws. Even British Common law was based on Roman law that the Normans brought to England in 1066.
It would be great if The New Culture Forum/Rafe could deliver some online history lessons for children and teenagers 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
He won't because he is lying. Gilded by a gossamer of gold only.
Theyll be far too busy working out their gender identity.
@gdr189 proof? Or do you just come on here to vacuously spout off?
@@bobmaxwell9572 What ARE you talking about you complete tool?!
@@gdr189what was he lying about and where is your proof?! Any time you want to pit your theory against Rafe's RESEARCH LED KNOWLEDGE AND INTELLECT I'll pay to watch the show!
Utterly fascinating. Rafe is a national treasure, him and Douglas are on the front lines of the historical battle for the reputation and survival of Great Britain at this point. I'm enthralled by his explanation of what makes the west unique compared to other cultures with the ban on cousin marriage and the development of the nuclear family. He's an invaluable fountain of knowledge. Great show lads 🎉
Oh yeh, Douglas Murray will be remembered alright. Remembered for writing lowbrow bargain-basement books meant to titillate low-iq members of society with clash of civilisations guff lol
Bet you’re another one of these cretins who think Israel can do wrong also lol
Lets normalize wearing a handkerchief again.
And Hats!
What ? Normalise it more than wearing a burka ?
@@BertoniBertone
If they make a nuns habit of it.
Although I would suggest a pocket square if it is on show. Handkerchief for an inside pocket.
That's a pocket square and is purely for show. The handkerchief would be in the inside pocket for actual use.
I second the idea that we should dress more smartly however.
@@Fez135 I've never stopped wearing a pocket square.
This guy is fantastic. Pure reasoned common sense ! Great interview
I'm British and I know my history is awesome. But I wasn't born into a socio-economic status I couldn't earn for myself. There seems to be a pattern between woke Marxist beliefs and socio-economic status...
Wisdom
Yep it’s called envy
It seems to me that Marxist beliefs are most common/popular in the middle class.
I was born (quite literally) on a council estate; rated as the roughest in England during the 80s and 90s (Stanhope Estate, Ashford, Kent), I lived there until my early 20s, I then joined the army and saw how the rest of the country lived. My upbringing has me very confident in saying that I despise Marxism.
I despise Communists and Communism. I'm not a huge fan of Socialism or its proponents.
No one on the estate I grew up on had anything. There were four cars across an estate of 800 houses. The closest telephone was the phone box near the shops. Hardly anyone could afford their own. It made me cringe when Starmer talked about being poor because his Sky TV was cut off for a month or two. Then it made me angry.
I know poor, real poor, not what passes for it now (I got my first part-time job at 11 to help feed my sisters; I earned £5 a week and that made a difference for my mum. I left school at 14 to work full-time delivering second-hand furniture; I was the drivers assistant or, as we said back then, drivers mate. I was carrying washing machines, fridge freezers, wardrobes, 3 piece suites, etcetera), and I'd rather not make my kids live through what my whole estate did to varying degrees.
Socialists will be the ones who push us back into poverty if we let them.
I am waiting for a figure to emerge who can galvanise people to stand against Socialism. I'm not that person, but I could be useful to them.
I'm from Mexico, and while I admire the good qualities and ingenuity of the Aztecs and Mayans, I thank God I grew up in post-colonial Mexico. I wouldn't want to be sacrificed for rain. I'm also thankful I grew up in the era of Pax-Americana when standards of living have never been higher in the history of our species.
Sacrificed for rain is pretty big L😂. It would be wild if we still had a civilization where people were killed.
Man I love Mexico, and think the Mayas and Aztecs were fascinating. I also know that the Aztecs, especially, had the most fantastically metal society of horrors. Very clean and lawful but absolutely addicted to violence and massacre.
Rafe is a voice of facts, reason and erudition, that's why I like him. A brilliant man. He should be a guest on every sensible channel.
My grand parents fought in ww2 my nan was a land girl , my grandads uncle fought in ww1 and ww2 was offered promotion but said no because he wants to fight alongside his men. But now me a hard worker is called a racist in my own country.
I think those were just brother wars engineered to cull us off.
Absolutely brilliant ! Thank you for the most intelligent, cultured interview I have seen since years !
We need to have Rafe educate the public everywhere !! Thank you to Triggernometry for inviting him !
Just left university but completely rejected all the woke ideology that was fed to me and other uni students over the past 3 years, lost friends over it but i'm standing firm.
We should be proud of our history, if Britain never had the empire we did someone else would have, it was a dog eat dog world.
If you are English/british you should be proud of your history. But not for the reason this so-called historian is trying to feed you. I get that the woke mob in university made you feel some type of way about your heritage. I get it. But there's a right way, and there's a wrong way, and just because you're angry at the left doesn't mean that the way this man talks about history is the right way
You should be careful about "standing firm" about your beliefs because a lot of unscrupulous people will take advantage of that and try to manipulate you and make it seem like they are on your side for their own intrests
Well done you, in graduating and not letting the wokeratti indoctrinated you! Good luck for the future👍
We should all be specially wary of people who disqualify others without offering any explanation for their negative comments.
Standing firm in his beliefs is exactly what he should do. Especially if they are good ones like being a productive member of society who isn’t crying about things that may or not have happened to a long dead ancestor.
The way history is being told at the moment is shocking with the constant hanging of guilt on a country or people’s over things long past.
As far as I am aware the dead don’t talk and they have never asked for money.
Britain filled power vacuums often left by other empires
I ❤ Rafe. Looking forward to this.
Rafe is a power of nature!
2024 is now Nineteen Eighty-four.
The Three Slogans of The Uniparty:
SPEECH IS VIOLENCE
FREEDOM IS DANGER
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH
Your maths is spot on. Orwell was out by (only) 40 years.
I watched that again yesterday. The parallels are scary
Why does the right invoke the lifelong democratic Socialist, critic of colonialism and supporter of censorship Orwell to attempt to justify their politics? Just stupid?
... and they openly, and loudly, and PROUDLY proclaim 2 of those 3 slogans... that speech is violence, and diversity is strength.
During the recent... medical thing... anyone with eyes to see, could see that they believe the third slogan as well... that freedom is danger.
As Rafe says, academia has always skewed left but now it’s overwhelmingly so and it’s affecting people’s ability to identify good or bad history. The UK’s young are being taught that their own country is the worst, most inhumane ex-Empire to ever exist and that any good there is contributed by slaves or migrants.
History is neither right or wrong. Actions taken may be deemed as right or wrong through a clouded lens of the viewer. The vilification of colonization has become an almost haute couture of sorts. The phenomenon can be illustrated by the example of a person complaining about the stink of the garbage truck going by while they are illegally dumping garbage in a vacant lot.
@@ddz1375 There is badly taught history which is bad history. Think of Maoist teachings. However, your metaphor about the case against colonialism is apt.
You don't need to be left or right to know that britain invading India and ransacking it for everything it was worth is wrong.
At all levels education has become telling pupils what to think not HOW to think
I can confirm this. It's also more teaching how to right the correct answer and not how to create knowledge.
@@T1000-s6l "It's also more teaching how to right the correct answer"...
@@T1000-s6lI taught for 15 years, I was regularly having to explain the based discussions we had about geopolitics and similar because I was teaching them how to think and critically evaluate their own views, some find that 'offensive' because they have been told that is the name for the feeling they get of cognitive dissonance.
I have said this many, many times, but I mean it.😄
This is an OUTSTANDING interview.
(I'm so proud of my Anglo-American heritage!)
And so you should be!👍
Out of all the continents of the World,to be born of Northern European stock means you hit the jackpot!😊
Defo a 'Top ten' of all Triggs. Thank you.
Agree! 10 out of 10 and A+ guys
Ooh, I love this guy! Looking forward to this.
As soon as universities started banning books and editing history, there should have been a backlash
👏👏👏 Thank you so much for inviting Rafe Heydel-Mankoo to your show guys.
True knowledge of facts is absolutely crucial to our defence of our unique western culture. Rafe is a true guiding star and certainly one of our bravest warriors.
I'm Irish and have far more respect and far more in common with a proud Englishman than I do an invertebrate Englishman who denounces his ancestors out of fear of standing up for himself.
A quarter of your population is made up of illegal immigrants. I’m actually quite pleased to see your country crumbling from the inside all while you criticize other countries from a morally superior position. You reap what you sow…
And you also prefer Murphy's to Guinness, because you're a real man.
And I bet you wouldn't say that out loud in a pub amounst yr friends😅
Ireland for the Irish and England for the English. I say that as a Yank with about equal amounts in my DNA. NEVER stop fighting!
As a Canadian all I can say is, I'm glad it wasn't the Spanish that colonized here.
A Polish Indian , a Venezuelan, and a Russian Jew are more patriotic about Britain than the average Brit ! (Yes I know that's a loose description !) Very interesting.
Love Mankoo's knowledgeable delivery wothout sounding pompous.
He's like an Indian Thomas sowell! Spits facts and doesn't back down from activists.
I'm a Muslim of Pakistani heritage born and raised in the USA. I love this country and would fight to defend it if need be. Many within the West are taking it for granted and that's why Europe has been crumbling.
Do you speak up at family gatherings tho?
Rafe is Polish, as he explained in the interview.
@@socratesrocks1513He's both.
Defend against who ? Iraq? Afghanistan ?
Rafe is not Polish, he is English ethnically and racially Indian.@socratesrocks1513
Our history…BE PROUD 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
We Yanks fought a bloody war to gain independence from the British Empire, but we kept all the best institutions of Britain, improved on some, and "ran them ourselves". Two and a half centuries later, there are no closer allies and friends than the US and the UK. The Brits think we're crazy in many respects and vice versa. But there's no greater love among nations than the one that binds our two slightly different but cohesive societies so tightly together.
It's a shame that both of our distinct but complementary cultures are currently under assault from forces that seek to destroy the historical pillars of Anglo-Western Civilization that have contributed so much prosperity and human flourishing to the world. We both face the destructive forces of undiminishing illegal immigration which packs with it cultural and moral idioms that are proving antithetical to our own. In the US, in stark contrast with previous waves of legal immigration, mostly from Judeo-Christian Europe, this newer crop of immigrants has refused to assimilate into our societies and to adopt our unique political and cultural traditions as integrating new Brits or Americans.
The US and UK are also both being emotionally hamstrung by the post-modernist revolutions raging through our institutions of education, commerce, and governance. We seem gob smacked by this intellectual invasion from both without and within, immobilized from reacting appropriately, very much like the proverbial deer which is suddenly caught in the headlights of an onrushing vehicle. It's a big problem, and as Rafe makes clear, it starts with the education of our future generations. Really scares the spit out of me!
Great comment, sums up the hard problem both of our countries face. I reluctantly have come to the conclusion that a return to basics and 'natural justice' is the only solution...
Well said
The myth of a special relationship was born out of the UK's declining power, as Thatcher coined the term to hitch her nation onto the US. That's why she pushed hard to set up London as a financial hub for the Anglosphere, and then promoted Globalisation with Reagan. Her hope was this strategy would enable the UK to ride off the back of US manufacturing while grafting as much as they could through Financial services.
Great post, well said
B + Good job 👊
Great Polish British man
Rafe Heydel-Mankoo is a damn legend.
If the young men from 1939 could have seen Britain today, they wouldn’t have bothered taking even one step onto those beaches
We have a modern day colonialism in the UK, they come over like the modern day vikings, in their dinghies.
Are you for repatriation of the descendants of prior invaders such as the Vikings, Dutch, and Normans? Perhaps you should collect reparations from the blokes before you push them out the door onto the North Sea or Channel? "Cheerio and bon voyage, Mates! And, sorry, gentlemen, we don't accept American Express." 😁🐻🇺🇲🇬🇧🇮🇱🇺🇦
Normans and Vikings did not arrive unarmed claiming that their status as refugees entitled them to the land
@@courtilz1012 Good point! You don't need the force of arms to invade the British Isles anymore when the victims of your invasion are welcoming you in with open arms, free healthcare, housing, cellphones, free transportation, and guaranteed income. What comes next to merry olde England? Sharia law courts, honor killings, arranged marriages of underage girls, slavery, genital mutilation of prepubescent girls, polygamy, homophobia, misogyny, murder, rape, and grooming? It's all coming to a neighborhood near yours.
In a hundred years from now, there will still be grifters claiming to be traumatised from slavery - which they personally didn't experience.
Rafe is an absolute legend, but get Starkey on too please.
The cousin-marriage theory or posit was utterly fascinating. I lived in Italy. Rafe is right. I wonder who practices cousin marriage in the UK these days …..?
The "Biodiversity Chick" website does a great job of showing how the Catholic Church forbidding cousin marriage and the Germanic Manorial System led to the "Hajnal Line" and the rise of the West.
A lot of Indian subcontinent Muslims.
This is so informative. Thank you
This was a great conversation
I adore Rafe....
I'm from Australia and yesterday out in public two teenagers walked by me, a boy and a girl. They were talking about Captain James Cook and the boy said, "That's his name, Captain Cook.". The girl asked, "Oh, his name was Captain?" and the boy replied, "No his name was John".
One of the most painful conversations I've heard in a while. How is there going to be any hope when kids are spreading incorrect knowledge amongst one another, and why is the education system failing them so much?
Fellow Australian. That's dreadful. What annoys me is when even adults in their thirties think Cook settled Australia.
Yes, it's nearly as painful realising most Australians don't know of our genocidal treatment of the first nations people.
We need a comprehensive history syllabus that covers, the good, the bad and the ugly of our history.
Knowing where we came from, will help us understand where we are today.
@@grannyannie2948 Yeah, and people want to tear down his statue as if he caused genocide or something. Fact is he only made landfall twice - in Botany Bay and Cooktown after running aground. All he did was chart the coast and go home.
@@aldunlop4622 Yes and he died defending the life of an indigenous man in Hawaii.
@@royboy4571 Actually that's a myth. There were massacres on both sides, in regional areas where there was little law. But the law was plain, to injure or murder them was treated the same by law as any other injury or death. And in the populated east coast there is much evidence of this. And a genocide does not result in a large increase in population.
Fantastic discussion Rafe is a beacon of light in the understanding of history. 🙏
In British Columbia the authorities banned the Potlatch an indigenous ceremony in which the community sacrificed slaves (and some members of villages participated in cannibalism). There were aspects of the Potlatch that was beneficial but when talking about the banning of it there is no mention of the human sacrifice.
Interesting. I had never heard of these aspects of the potlatch before. Thanks.
I have not heard of this either. That dark element of the potlatch sure isn't being taught in schools in BC. Kids mostly get fed the "noble savage" and indigenous people as stewards of the land tropes.
People risk their lives to emigrate to USA, UK, etc. How bad can it be to live in 'the West'?
Rafe
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This was my favorite episode.
Thanks
Italian here, and wrapping up a Master in Historical Sciences as it happens. Totally agreed about the granularity of the development across Europe and yes, Italy, with its North and South differences, in terms of industrialization and ideas. It is not a random fact also that in general Italy is less "ahead" than northern countries, and yes, Italy having remained Catholic (like Spain, Portugal and so on) after the Reformation was not without consequence on that either. I'd suggest a read of Weber's "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism" which, while outdated and definitely using a bit too wide a brush for the analysis, is still a classic on the subject.
On a different note, I agree that the woke capture of cultural institutions at least in Italy is a lot less obvious, but it is starting to get traction here as well. Many of my courses/exams have been extremely tendentious, speaking of the usual suspects, such as Anthropology, Ethnology etcetera, but even Geographic History and yes, History of the US have been painful to get through.
Francis has the face of a boy that everyone of us knew at Secondary school.
Child psychology suggests that the synapse of the young mind is intact until the 3rd decade, ie 20 to 30. In this state the person will want to fit into a group. Hence the attraction of group think and the attachment to a cult. Past that age the synapse breakdown and individuality begins and so as Raife says, the western mind looks to network and share to develop wealth, in all forms not just money. So communist group cult appeals to the younger person. Aren't Universities dangerous
Agreed. That is why young folks tend to be leftist and older folks right wingers.
Collectivism vs Independence.
Socialism vs Capitalism
@@kevinpankanin6222 Apparently the brains of left leaning people differ from those who are to the right - the latter have slightly larger amygdalas of the brain - an organ concerned with the security of the individual -and the right emphasises security of a country more
@@kevinpankanin6222 is that why Starmer and his party are being so mean to the elderly 🤔
@@kaloarepo288 interesting but often people change their political affiliation as they age….
Rafe is absolutely brilliant with his insights. He explores topics nobody else even considers. A rare mind, indeed! 👏👏👏👏👏👏 👍👍👍👍
This whole idea that we can “decolonize” its ridiculous.
It’s just an excuse to defenestrate the past, and deracinate all ties to the past by Jacobins.
It's a pathetic attempt by the left wing intellegensia to bend over backwards to appease minorities.
They don't see our history through the same lense as us, it reinforces the chip on their shoulder and so they other themselves, yet they stay here so we can't be that evil... It's to try and denigrate, humiliate and silence the native British population.
What a fantastic guest. This interview needs to reach a much much wider audience. Well done guys.
Fascinating and insightful as always Rafe 👍
I was brought up in the 1960s. Education was a very different animal in those days. We were taught real subjects like history and geography, as well as the three R’s. Pride in our country was obvious in those days. We were still reeling from the war and times were hard. But here’s the thing. As a nation, we were happy and appreciative of everything we had. We knew how great we were, even as kids. About 51% of all great inventions came out of Great Britain. Our contribution to the world has been enormous. We would most probably still be living in the dark ages, if it wasn’t for our universities and the brilliant minds that came out of them. They are just a hot bed of woke snowflakes these days. We are finished.
51% of all great inventions.
What's a great invention.
This sounds made up.
I mean, the British didn't invent :
- Gun Powder
- airplane
- X-rays
- Motor Vehicles
- Seat Belts
- The Radio
- The Light Bulb
- The Black Box
- The Electric Drill
97 percent of what are considered "science" and "scientific" discoveries in the world were by Europeans and cultures spawned by Europeans (ie. The US). Does that help?
@@royboy4571 No, the British invented the computer, and the Internet, the jet engine, TV, the telephone, the steam engine, which powered the Industrial Revolution, and opened continents. We also invented tarmac for roads and concrete for building. So basically, everything required to build nations. The list is literally endless. By the way, a Brit called Joseph Swan invented the lightbulb. Before Edison patented his idea. I thought everybody knew that. 🙂
"You dont have to fly red flags from the rooftops for a revolution"
Apparantly rainbow ones with black brown blue white and piunk chevrons will do.
Harriet Tubman took refuge in today's Ontario and the underground railway terminus was the northern boarder of today's Canada. This was only possible due to the British abolishing slavery throughout their Empire and enforcing it.
Barak will make you change your history.
You mean the bs’er Barack Obama?
I think the purpose of any culture or religion is to look at the good in them. If you look for the bad, you will find it. If you look for the good, you will find it.
That's the key to it all.
Look for the good.
Really and ignore the bad.
So don't learn from your mistakes.
Look for both, and have a rounded view of your history.
I mean, the Germans, shouldn't teach their kids about the Nazis.
@royboy4571 Didn't say ignore it. You're projecting that and are too foolish to understand the meaning..
I said look for the good.
You actually proved my point
@@royboy4571 Having said that, have a good day. Stay positive.
Rafe is our David Starkey back up! Great chat guys.👍
Yuss 🙌 Rafe is always a good listen.
I love me some Heydel-Mankoo. X
Brilliant discussion
British taxes was still paying off the loan the british used to free salves up till 2011. So anyone paying taxes till then. Well done on your part in freeing them.
Yes Einstein, and who do you think were being paid, the slaves, not the owners.
FFS !
I’m an American, 33 year old hybrid from cross pollination of history in all its wonders and horrors. Appalachian lineage for 350-400 years. But if you saw me. You’d see a white man. I see people. Humans. We are one. Life is painful. Subjectively. And objectively. History follows that same formula. Choose courage. Strength. Compassion. And above all, choose life. If you’re heart hasn’t healed from the pain of being alive in this world, then bitterness is tempting. And anger. Then rage. Not unjustified, much of the time. But that breeds hate. And hate is singular. It’s destruction. Nothing else. We are all the same species. It’s a beautiful thing to feel, and see, and know. And the potential is so lovely. Choose life. Let’s honor the pain of our ancestors by living to the fullest extent we can. Not tear it all down, and make their suffering’s, and sacrifices, and lives, for nothing.
Rafe is a genuine national treasure
And on the other side he is a right wing ideologist and a stance which informs his history. He asked for balance..
I got a degree in Sociology in Canada in the 70's. Almost all professors were Marxist. I found Marxism had some valid points, but I found it to be am easily understood theory for intellectually inferior bullies. If you argued against Marxism, the hegemony of capitalism had enslaved you. Interestingly, hegemony never occurred in communist societies.
Anyone who wants to understand the slave trade in Africa needs to visit Stone Town, in Zanzibar.
Traditional African chiefs sold their strongest men and women to Arab slave traders. They sold their own people. If they had chosen not to do that, there would have been no slave trade. The Arab traders saw them as “kaffirs” - It was a dehumanising term for people not of their faith. These men and women were held in disgusting conditions, and were sold on by Arabs to whoever was prepared to pay for them.
Nothing much has changed. Al Shabaab, in Northern Mozambique, is still to this day trafficking people. Nobody talks about this much.
TOO TRUE.
What does that to do with European claims of exceptionalism? What you stated just shows no country is exceptional then.
@@martinvanburen4578 They didn’t voluntarily sell their own people into slavery.
I am a British of Ugandan decent my Surname SSALI came from the Arab Slave Trade (Ssali comes from the Arab name Salim).
@@rowenadavies2411 so buying other people from other groups makes a group better? Especially if the Europeans were Christians who claimed to be followers of Christ? That does make your point so much stronger. WOW
It's called critical theory, used to criticize the west into oblivion.
Fascinating discussion, thanks.
It's good to see foreigners sticking up for Great Britain.
Maybe the best Triggernometry episode EVER.
BTW, there IS a chasm between Left and Right. We now have some mutated form of Marxism vs the rest of the world.
Very interesting conversation, thank you 🇬🇧🕊️! Great Britain gave the world the greatest number of inventions. You have an amazing culture and traditions, unique architecture, in my honest but subjective opinion, the best literature… and yet are being severely gaslighted by many.
I wish the British to regain the freedom of speech, the opportunity to have open and honest discussions on all topics, without ideologising them and without being labelled. I wish you regain the glory and pride of your ancestors.
Much love from Ukraine 🇺🇦
I live in San Francisco, CA, which as far as “woke America” goes, may as well be the capital. But honestly, I think that most people here are fairly reasonable. The far left is very loud, and they silence people by calling them right wing if they oppose the woke ideology, but their numbers are small. The progressive candidate in our upcoming mayoral election has an estimated 2% of the vote.
Unfortunately it is true that our teachers are pushing a very woke agenda, and students are eating it up. But that line of thinking is common amongst youth, who think everything should be fair, and haven’t the life experience to realize that not everyone will chip in and do their part for society. By far the biggest problem with California teachers is their pushing trans ideology on students and not discussing it with parents.
As an English woman I know what we gave the colonies. I've read. I'm proud of OUR history. We gave such a lot. And still are
Such an intelligent conversation, may I add the woke revolution wouldn’t be so dangerous as it is today, if much less immigration of large numbers of immigrants came cynically to use the west, and never have had plans to integrate
It's funny you guys feel that it's only the British who are considered the bad guys because in the states it's only the US haha
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This was such an interesting and informative interview.
Love rafe, always worth listening to!
You guys are really hitting the nail with your guests lately
I love Rafe, at his best when has to articulate and argue for common sense on GBN, does it almost as well as Douglas Murray imo
The Protestants did have a major role in America, which started in Europe. They started pushing these ideas of individual sovereignty with the understanding that we are made in the image of God and are all born with God-given rights. Equal value in the eyes of God. These ideas that every man should have access to the read the Bible as it was written was what created the will for the common people to want learn to read. They wanted to read the Bible. This unlocked the power of the people. Then, eventually, the common man could become a preacher, which was the first teachers. These ideas came pouring into America with the Irish Protestants and others from Europe, and their beliefs played a major role in America's founding. These ideas are directly written down in our founding documents. It all comes back to the Bible, and that's something that every citizen should be taught.
Yep!
all you have is propaganda...
@@martinvanburen4578 what are you talking about?
@@chrisquinn394 go read it again and again. maybe get an adult to help you understand?
@martinvanburen4578 Maybe you need to get an adult to help you read because if you could, you would see that I wrote the original comment. I don't need to read it again because I wrote it. I could write a lot more about ot too
Western history was harsh and cruel at times and disrupted the work. All this is true and yet the progress made in 300 years compared to the 50,000 years before than is remarkable. Condemning it wholesale from a position of comfort is just being by smug.
Being smug yes and also very foolish as if the mind gets into to habit of living in a state of condemning others, it actually becomes very miserable and depressed and judgemental….a horrible way to live which also makes more misery fir a person’s future as this state of mind becomes habitual.
I love history and the perspective it gives me, but my knowledge is limited to public school teaching 80’s and 90s and what I have learned on UA-cam by these incredible historians. This conversation specifically, I feel I should be taking notes, doing in depth research and filling in the blanks that I was left with by my lack of education. This is facilitating.
I am afraid poor Sudan, which was under joint British and Egyptian rule from 1899 to 1956, is the exception to the rule that countries that were British colonies tend to be better off - I lived there between 1981 - 84 and although the people were wonderful, the country was a real sh*thole - desperately poor and underdeveloped - a desultory dictatorship - 95% FGM - nothing worked - there were remnants of past glories - namely the antiquated but still going railway system - and many who spoke good English - but truly a dump - while we were there the president Jaffer Nimeiri escaped to America to make way for the ghastly Muslim Brotherhood and we got out. Truly a tragic place. I honestly think if the British had never left and had decided to properly invest in the country it would be a very different story today. They tried valiantly to wipe out the horrific FGM practice but with very little success. It was in some ways a very brutal and backward place.
I also don't think Ireland is better off due to British input. They lost a huge amount of their population under UK control and also lost their land and were not allowed access to good education. Basically the majority population was kept poor and disenfranchised. Britain fostered the image of the Irish being violent and stupid. The Irish before being invaded and before the Vikings were doing very well and in fact started a lot of monasteries of learning in Europe.
@@jackieblue1267 yes no doubt many foolish things done in history but if people don’t let go of the past, they make themselves miserable about things which can’t be changed, which seems crazy to me.
All civs have done bad things, it's human nature. Nobody's innocent. One difference today is the media influence which tries to sway public opinion. Over 100 years ago, nobody gave a damn about the media like today. Europeans were more advanced, conquered others just like everyone else if they could, but did it globally and dominated. They also brought fair laws, medicine, etc. to some pretty unadvanced civs that are still primitive today. Half of South Saharan Africa still has no electricity and running water today. That's absurd and adds up to about 600 million people. Face it, Euros have had advanced civs in Europe, Eastern Europe, Australia, NZ, USA, and Canada.
Great talk, but must have been recorded some time back as Rafa was on another podcast today talking about how immigration is a massive net loss to the UK according to the OBR. Eurozone, India, China positive. Turkey, Middle Easy, Africa negative. -£450k per immigrant.
Could you please tell whose channel that was.
@@grannyannie2948 Yes, I just couldn't remember at time of writing. It was The New Culture Forum.
@@littleinkling4604 Thankyou I'll listen.
Everything Heydel-Mankoo is saying about the way history is taught in Western unis is spot on.
At this point, the professoriate are two generations or so removed from the initial postmodern takeover of unis in the 1960s & 70s. I’m not entirely sure what is to be done about having a balanced perspective on history at this point. The field has been so thoroughly deconstructed by postmodern methodologies that recovering true history may be impossible. That being said, dissident historians like Heydel-Mankoo and Ferguson need outlets like Triggernometry to construct an “anti-history” that counteracts today’s far too self-referential historiography.
Diversity did build Britain. There was the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Normans,..
And the Celts
All Europeans.
This was so good. Consider having the author of “Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me” on. He goes through 10 lies and slavery is one of them. The author is a professor.
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Lifted out of poverty by colonization?!!! How have the Maya, the Mik’maq, the Khosa, the Inuit…been lifted out of poverty? You built railroads, yes, but not to benefit the indigenous people. They were built to facilitate the removal of their resources and the products of their labor.
Yes and it was the Indian coolies who were the ones who built the railways in the empire and the Irish did the same in the UK.
Right. Isn’t it awesome that people are still blind to the fact that they can’t keep themselves from being in one extreme or the other? Ffs. Humans are so fucking blind to themselves and their motives. I hate our species.
YES. The colonial US became the first middle-class English Speaking peoples, enjoying longer lives and meat at EVERY meal and before their colonial masters, the Brits, did.
@@Orson2u tell me why you opened that hole in your head? Your comment has nothing to do with the original comment.
It's a bit more than railways, it's also things like modern medicine. The indigenous people of my country had no clothes, no houses and no agriculture. Since British settlement their life expectancy doubled. And I have never met one who would like to permanently return to a life of hunter/gathering.
The world would be a much better place if more people paid attention to what is being said here. I do have a different take though on the cause of the differences between north and south Italy, and that is south Italy has a greater integration of the north Africans, but that is racist and not acceptable in our emotionally politically incorrect rules of today.
Complete rubbish to say that British colonialism enriched the economy of the colonies. Under British rule India’s share of world manufacturing exports fell from 27 per cent to 2 per cent as East India employees made colossal fortunes. The marquess of Salisbury, secretary of state for India in the 1870s, remarked that “India is to be bled”, and by the end of the 19th century it was Britain’s biggest source of revenue.
Britain's exploitative, racist imperial project in India was awesome in its savagery and vindictiveness - a long and shameless record of rapacity. The nauseating righteousness and condescension pedalled by Rafe and Niall Ferguson in his 2003 book Empire, which argues that like Rafe British imperialism gave to British imperialism gave to the world its admirable and distinctive features (language, banking, representative assemblies, the idea of liberty) and that India, "the world's largest democracy, owes more than it is fashionable to acknowledge to British rule". the world its admirable and distinctive features.
Are we allowed to use the term Ethnocide to describe what's happening yet?
I’ve always liked history and learning about it and also looking at it from different points of views but it’s important to acknowledge all the good the bad and the ugly regardless of the country .