Ep. 36 | Ultralight Hunting - How Light Can You Go?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Ultralight hunters make up a strange mix of total nerds and freak athletes - almost all bound to conquer some of the roughest terrain on the planet in search of rare and unique game. If you’ve ever been forced to listen to their endless stressing over ounces or studied their kit and all its strange gadgets and wondered to yourself - “Why don’t you just do more pushups and carry normal stuff?” - Perhaps this podcast will change your tune. International man of mystery and ultralight hunter extraordinaire Dave Hamilton joins Jimmy, Mark, Erik Barber (Not known for his ultralight-ness), Ryan Muckenhirn and long-time western guide Paul Neess to discuss this highly technical, nerdy and awesome topic. From tips to keep your pack contents to a minimum and extreme ultralight gear that gets the job done - all the way to dehydrated water - we cover some serious ground here.
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One of the best posts Vortex Nation Podcast has put up. I can feel the weight of experience at play here. Well done.
Weight of experience. Amazing joke.
Lightweight Dave's packing a lot of extra weight in those guns 💪💪
You guys should get data from long distance backpackers like Andrew Skurka (also a hunter). These guys have amazing tricks for nutrition and getting the lightest gear possible for moving through tough terrain and staying overnight. These guys are specialized in these areas and are way ahead of you (no offense) on these topics. There is just way too much to backpack hunting to be able to be an expert on everything. All around this is a great podcast. Keep up the good work.
Sounds awesome for sure!! Thanks for tuning in to the cast!
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Andrew Skurka even has cooking recipes for the most calories and nutrients per ounce. Skurka has some of the best ultralight hiking data on his website.
Water- use a water bladder. Those lightweight ones don't really cut it as they will get damaged. MSR make some heavy duty bladders that are awesome. They are quite heavy but it's one case where harder wearing and heavier is better. The last thing you want is the water bag breaking.
I've picked up a bunch of these in recent years. Not so much for big game hunting (not legal) but just while backpacking I have my dogs carry their own backpacks with gear, including all of our water. Those Dromedary bags seem like the perfect match for something that can conform to their bodies better than hard bottles but are still durable enough to handle them slamming their packs into rocks and trees pretty much constantly.
Also another good vid about this was the Backfire channel. Last winter, they drew a tag for an elk hunt and compared rifles with user input but they seemed to favor the Tikka 3 Ultralite for weight but Weatherby for fitment and trigger. And the rest of the packing was for weight and convenience. They were going to have to hike in 5 or 10 miles. Probably camp out. Reason for staying 10 miles is to make it easier to pack out an elk.
The new international standard for sleeping bags is ISO-23537-1 for Temperature Rating Test
I have always had bad ankles. I wore some softer boots for my fall bear hunt... I rolled down a hill with a full pack of black bear and a bow haha.
Help! I need to know what the ideal stove setup was!!
At what point do you restrict the quantity of food do much and other supplies that you don't have anything as backup for emergency situations? Maybe good podcast for emergency rations and supplies? Has this been spoken about yet? I know this is an old episode
Hey we have a green bush Wacker shirt on the wall
Dave saying, "If I could go in with a pack that's 0 pounds.."
Why don't we hunt with a small personal zeppelin? You just tug along like a pack animal. It could hold a good portion of your gear. Only problem is finding a design that would lift enough to be worth using.
Actually, you would even need it to be able to carry the whole thing. Just attach it to your bag and it will help. Even a 10% lift would be nice
Just what I was searching for
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Ken block comment made me sad
2 is one, one is none. 2 merinosare better than….. a wet sock
Someone needs to come up with trekking poles that double as a bipod for shooting. Some how make it so they hook together with a v cut or something on top to rest gun in.
They already are. Slip the loops over the handles and spread the poles apart. For extra security, slip the rifle’s sling around the front of one of the handles and hold it with your hand. This is taught in mountain warfare schools all over the world.
@@509Gman did not know that.
@@TruckGuyHD92 Using the existing wrist loops is all I've tried so far, but I know you can also buy things that actually clamp onto the trekking pole tubes and let you snap them together if you want a more rigid platform - "Quick-StiX" by Wiser Precision.
300 or 303?
Sorry guys. Had to shut it down... no specifics related to the actual equipment that works vs. what doesn’t. Prob something to do with branding and who they are being branded by... this podcast would have contained some great info otherwise.
You put yours on a spread sheet I put mine on the bed sheet. Why don't you do more pushups? I do go fairly light but I have carried 80 pound plus pack numerous times..the last time I started at 6k feet and spent the night at 10kfeet. I woke up at sea level the same day. Did it just to kick my own ass.
Beanie, underware, one pair socks, one long sleeve shirt, extra gloves
long term mountain house causes kidney stones in many people..
You guys pick calibers for weight too? Thinner brass? Lighter grain bullets?
He just needs edible underwear and socks better weigh that.
Thinking only about weight may cause you to need a helicopter ride.
Let's leave our edible underwear out of this...
@@VortexNation I hate to give up great ideas but many people think of the same things at the same time..I know some guys pushing a 243 to 1000 yards. Less than 1moa target. If you could design a bullet that flies like a bore rider but hit like a lead nose. That might save a little more weight. With platform adjustments as well.
Obviously mathematically we are looking at a minimum .28" for cross sectional density I would say? So my advice. Get a 7mm-08, throat it for the most modern heaviest bullet in a bore rider. If your deadly accurate the expansion isn't as necessary on far away game. Just the energy and placement. Heart shot is a heart shot. Aim small miss small.
I have an idea for the ultimate rifle I can think of for king of 2 mile. I just would like to be involved as it's my idea. Some proprietary electronics might be needed. My background is fabricator, machinist, welder, motor builder, chassis/engine tuning, from 1/4 h.p. to 4000 h.p. Extrusion line designer and operator for tper. Many relative backgrounds. Certified to 22ga stainless.
If your shooting far ..why not talk about something almost no one talks about ....powder temp...!! Or maybe the size of the user pool is small for a talk like that. Never know.
Be safe out there.
Good Luck Always
Trecking poles = shooting sticks & bipod…not just good for lightweight shelters.
Outstanding
Another advantage of being light is good for even local hunts. I hunt public land and some of the places are so overgrown that not only is it like a back country hunt but the best way to get a whitetail out of there is quartered an on the frame of the backpack. So, I am only carrying the articles needed to skin and quarter a deer. A pulley system and gambrel. Rope, paracord, game processing kit. Rangerfinder, binocs, camp chair, tripod, plastic bags, rifle. Bottle of water in my hunting pants that have huge cargo pockets (got that at WalMart.) With any luck, I will harvest a deer and bone and all could be 60 pounds out that I did not bring in. Fortunately, the land is not that big, only hiking about a mile, or less.
Ok, to the socks. In the PNW rainforest. Bring at least 3 pairs of socks, thank me later.
Always pack a day or so of extra food. If there is an injury in the party it will take you a LOT longer to get out. They aren't going to send a helicopter in for a sprained ankle but that ankle will make an hour's hike take all day. In cold weather that extra food could spell the difference between survival and death.
If you're stuck, they'd absolutely send the rescue squad. DUH. The question is, can you count on being able to call them. That's the much more serious consideration.
Or buy a horse...
touché🤣
@@VortexNation pack goats!