ALL Scrin infantry heals to 100% in a Tiberium field - what you saw there is squads that lost members. A squad of disintegrators (say 4) which lost 2 of them, won't heal above 50%, due to it being the squad's health bar. All other infantry squads in the game behave the exact same (see Zone Troopers). The only exceptions is replenish-able squads of GDI via the Armory.
Ah, that makes sense. My initial assumption was that all the Scrin infantry did heal in the Tiberium field, but was surprised when some weren't. It hadn't occurred to me that the health bar was tied directly to the number of units in a single squad.
I've always liked to think that this basically was the ultimate goal of Kanes cybernetic research. The creation of a totally loyal, tiberium thriving, army of super soldiers. But of course with human stock and influence.
It's frightening how much damage the scrin infantry was able to deal on Earth, when you realize these besides shock troops were basically garisson troops for the tiberium harvesting operation this invasion force was. If anything it was only a skeleton of what an actual scrin force could be
Just when I think you have finished with tiberium and have no more ideas, you straight up pull out another one. This is why I love your stuff, man. Keep it up
Tempest Rising which supposed to come out next year is clearly a love letter to Command & Conquer with tempest being very similar to tiberium. If he wants to there is another game coming out he could make videos about.
@@Jethild What else are you going to bring up???? Temple of NOD??? Spaceborne vehicle? GDI Navy, War Factory??? Come on!!!! Unveil the works in progress!!!!
the scary thing is we just fought with miners and low level guards... i dont wanna know how devastating a normal scrin soldier or specialized scrin soldier could look like or their gigantic vehicles
Well I'd think that Reaper and Traveller's units can't be too far off. The Shard Walker is said to be rather new to replace the old Gun Walker that is not suitable for any thing other then clearing out primitives like us.
Alternatively, we did see actual Scrin troops, but they were more like the equivalent of private military contractors that were hired to escort a mining company operating in a hazardous region (the hazards in this case being mutated wildlife and what remnants of local advanced civilization persist), so their actual problem wasn't so much that they had "civilianized" military gear but rather than they had far more limited numbers than a true Scrin military operation would field. That is to say, if what hit Earth was a fully prepared invasion force, GDI and Nod would've been bled out in a war of attrition at the very least, if not "nuked" into submission by the Scrin's Tiberium-based strategic weaponry (because you *know* that they must have them somewhere). Honestly, the fact that a Scrin mining operation still merits in their eyes the presence of weapons that by GDI and Nod standards are city-killers should make us ask "What the fuck are they expecting to face on a world where Tiberium has left nothing but wastelands filled with itself and mutated wildlife?" Like, were they expecting something like a Tiberium-based version of Dune's sandworms or Mass Effect's thresher maws to be commonplace threats? Or are they at war with one or more spacefaring alien civilizations, and they expect to run into enemy raiders?
@@MarqFJA87 if i remember right scrin are not the scrin its the name of alien civilization gdi managed to learn from the tacitus so they automatically assumed the visitors were the scrin
That's cause EA isn't the creators of the series and just bought it and tried to cash in as much as possible till it ran the series into the ground with command n conquer 4 and the mobile ap game.
@@TekkaSage Do not cite the deep magic to me. I was there when it was written. (I got an original copy of Tiberium Dawn from 1996 ish, I'm aware of what happened to Westwood)
I wonder sometimes if Yuri was a Scrin to some extent, with his mind control powers, plans of world domination, and his symbol looking like a Scrin glyph...
Red alert is just a different timeline in the universe so maybe a scrin scouted the planet and influenced him or something to cause it. Maybe the ship transmissions are messing with his mind. Either way this is a cool theory.
@@Rat_Fบcker In the original C&C storyline from Westwood, Yuri was created by Kane, so my guess is that Kane must have obtained some of Scrin mind control technology from the Mastermind and cultist to create Yuri.
@@hoangnguyenbui4614 I think you're right. Kane did many experiments and had Tacitus. Also Yuri's technology had similar design to Nod's technology. Or maybe Yuri is a hybrid of human and scrin?
@@Archont_ Probrably. Hell, he could’ve been a trump card for Nod and humanity against Scrin Overlord. If he wasn’t sucked into the Chrono Vortext base from the original material.
I am rarely ever excited for videos such as these. Not only are they interesting lore videos, they're incredibly well made, intuitive, and just flat out enjoyable. The Tiberium lore series is what inspired me to get C&C3/kanes wrath. It made me realize why people liked the series so much, good world, lore, characters. I sorta realized that kane must "die" so much to fix his back for carrying the entirety of nod in (pretty much) every game
Things you got wrong / missed or forgot: all scrin infantry as well as forgotten maruders heal in tiberium ( maruders also cloak in tiberium ) but they dont get lost troops back unlike with gdi armory, scrin infantry also can be healed by repair drones and scrin corrupters which can also heal other scrin vehicles prodigy ( not sure if mastermind too) can teleport any unit from anywhere on the map next to itself
I've always wanted a full scale invasion campaign for the Scrin. Having to farm and basically spread the Tiberium out from the Red Zones and into the Yellow and Blue zones to complete the full terraforming process.
I'd like a new C&C game that only concerns the Scrin, sort of like KW only concerned Kane and Nod. The GDI vs Nod is fun and all but it would be cool to expand the lore.
(Warning: Almost certainly false, very dubious at best as a source of information.) - As I recall, the in game intelligence database had something on the Disintegrators. As I recall, it went like this: GDI had captured one mostly intact after killing it, and were planning to dissect it to see what it's internal makeup was. This however ended up going badly, as when the body was waiting it ruptured, and started secreting some sort of corrosive compound that ate though the very sturdy examination table (I forget what it was made out of - tungsten, reinforced steel, or something?) forcing the lab to drop the idea in order to deal with the compound that ate the table. This had no impact gameplay wise, but you could make a case for fallen Scrin infantry being engineered to basically self-destruct, and become small scale bioweapons after death in order to avoid any nosy lot poking around to figure out what they look like on the inside. Now imagine after Tib war 3 how many Scrin infantry bodies there were all over the place, and how much of a nightmare after a nightmare it was when they all began to self-destruct and contaminate their vicinity with the mystery corrosive compound? Especially if it was Tiberium based, which in all likeliness is kinda probable.
I think you may have gotten that information from somewhere else because I went through all the Intel Database entries related to the Scrin and none of them give any details about dissecting Disintegrators. It sounds like something that may have been in that Tiberium Wars spin off novel that was released around the same time as the game.
Upon a quick glance, you are right. It's still something I remember quite clearly, so I have no idea where it came from. I recall it being more of a side remark attached to the later part of something, more than anything. Though, this could very well just be a case of the Mandela effect. I checked the manual just to be sure, and it wasn't mentioned there either. Either this is really me remembering things ala Mandela effect, or it's some really obscure and forgotten stuff. I have not read said spin off novel, though I could have gotten the lore given to me via a third party if it is in there somewhere. As I recall relating to the mention, it confused me at the time greatly, because the Disintegrators blow up when you run them over with a tank, rather than melt them via some corrosive compound. A potential explanation for my memory pulling a stunt here is that a younger mind may have confused the disintegrators "bleeding" with the explosion, until I re-read the manual...but I have no idea how the heck I would also then go onto tag GDI trying to dissect one of em and ending up with a melted test bench for their troubles. All I can think of for a source would be a potential mention of it somewhere on the old websites Command and Conquer had at the time, which spoke about some of the units. That, or it was a very old game magazine that had an article about Command and Conquer 3 with a lot of things changed. I recall said article (which was in Finnish, so I am suspecting translation errors/bad games journalism might have happened too) talking about how Command and Conquer 3 would feature some features clearly not in the game, such as needing to decontaminate vehicles from Tiberium if they drove over some/ that some sort of orbital superiority battlefield aspect would be a part of the game. Sadly, I do not have any such magazine on hand to offer up as proof.
@@videocrowsnest5251 I actually know where this came from. The C&C wikia had the lore you are describing written on their disintigrator page for while. I remember not being able to find a source and suspecting it was fanfiction. Later I learned the C&C wikia had issues with people adding fanfiction, especially to the TW pages. It's been cleaned up since.
I always wondered how riflemen and militants killed buzzers. I figured they'd use explosive rounds and their grenade launchers so that the concussive force and shrapnel from the explosion would dispatch a swarm
(Another dubious source warning) Per the intelligence database, GDI scientists speculated that the effect of bullets/explosives passing through/hitting the buzzer hive somehow messed/interfered with the limited central intelligence controlling them all. So basically, they don't so much hit the individual buzzers, but disrupt the limited central intelligence which controls them, thus causing the swarm to lose cohesion and for em to dissipate.
I imagine it as in the middle of a buzzer squad there's something like a core, like a small mobile buzzer hive, needed because the buzzers themselves can't live outside a hive since they cannot absorb tiberium radiation well enough individually. When infantry shoots a buzzer hive it targets the core but the buzzers block the incoming fire until there's none left to do so. This also makes sense why snipers can one-shot them, using high velocity AP ammo it goes through the buzzers straight into the core. Obviously this is all made up by me but I like it.
@@CharlieTuna8 Another alternative is that due to the bioengineered nature of the Buzzers (much as most Scrin infantry), they are on their own incapable of functioning. Think them being receivers, and whatever it is at the core keeping them all in a swarm formation, the sender/transmiter. Then when shooting it, this central point gets damaged/disabled, thus causing the swarm to dissipate and die.
@@CharlieTuna8 That's some Evangelion like shenaningans right there, holy shit. O__O But it makes sense. The only way to stop the damn swarm is to destroy its core, just like the Core of an Angel or an EVA.
I think people also forget that the Scrins Infantry and Vehicles are not military units. Most are either outdated or civilian purposed. So imagine what an up to date or modern Scrin army would look like.
I have a rather interesting theory that the Scrin work in a similar way to the Combine Advisors. They never use their own bodies or don't have their original host bodies and merely upload themselves into what essentially are living computers. Each creature doesn't look like it's own biological creation nor evolution, not even tib mutations in the past have ended up with what the Scrin are like, leading to the idea that they are bio-engineered while the only instances we have the actual Scrin are all digitized.
Imagine if the Scrin and Combine started fighting. Wouldn't that be awesome? We ALMOST got a Half-Life rts game, and on the switch too! It would have taken place during the Seven Hour War.
fun fact : me and my friends make misheard joke Shock Troopers' spawn speech (like in that video) as "Salamu'alaikum" (Arab : Peace be upon you). Sometimes when they raid base with Shock Trooper ambush, we yell "Salamu'alaikum" then destroy the base. Greetings from Indonesia. Nice video. If only EA didn't screw every franchise, We might see better Scrin one day and the truth of Kane is more logical
Just like the Rangdan, the Scrin fell to humanities ingenuity for violence and demonstrates the fate for all those that oppose the Emperor’s grand vision
Each new video is a great joy! And Scrin... They are not the most peculiar alien faction in RTS, Ok it is space bugs one more time but it is ... crystal bugs! Design of their buildings and machines is great and effects of their weapons looks awesome even now. When the game was released it was really "WOW"
Sometimes the Scrin tech makes you forget that these aren't even the military arms of the species. NOD and GDI were more or less fighting space farmers during the 3rd war, and those farmers managed to build a portal back home.
Hi Jet, I just wanted to thank you for all of your work. I mean, I always was to every more complex lore, and C&C is my home but your videos... They're just calming me. Some examples: When I and my boyfriend broke up, I entered UA-cam crying and saw ur vid about Ion weaponry. Helped me get better and actually calm myself before parents returned. The day when I was banned from my main community server. I was asshole. I knew it now. But then I was totally destroyed. I just couldn't stop raging about anything. And then, I watched your video about Scrin. It helped me too, got to think about other things than that pesky ban. And situation from now (20:22 my timezone, 21.08.2022). I just got mental break about not being on fucking private server. I know, stupid but... My friend (bf that I broke up with) just saw that they were playing card against humanity on that server. And left. I just got so much hate to him, and them, and even owner (she was talking with me if I wouldn't mind be in THAT server, even throw some of ideas for her she used). I was just ready to kill someone. But then, saw this video. And got calm again. Thought about how could I write to owner. And finally I wrote peacefuly and master minded messages. She said that no one really just got idea of inviting me. And for friend... I messaged to him about how much that was bitch move, but also I said to him that even after this all shit, I like him and I'm not angry now. And so, he thought about idea of actually giving idea to everyone in that server to invite me XD. So, thank you so much for your work bro. You're reallly amazing
Disintegrators seem to have taken a lot of inspiration from the warrior bugs found in Starship Troopers. The big mandible, small eye right behind and the arrangement of the legs
2:29 They're the reason why in Red Alert 3, the frontline infantry(Peacekeepers, Imperial Warriors, and Conscripts) were tasked with anti-garrison... Of course they have to switch to their secondary weapon to do so, or in the Imperial Warrior's case go... *TENNOHEIKA BANZAI!!!* 5:16 Much like Red Alert 3's Flak Troopers equipped with Magnetic Mines... Also with regards to the Mastermind... They're not actually using their minds to mind control, instead they use what's called a "Manipulator Device" which they would implant on units and structures... Dunno why the Prodigy has it as well considering it's mutated brain would be able to mind control anything by itself...
In my opinion, the Scrin Infantry by far is the closest thing we got regarding about Robert H Heinlein's depiction of the "bugs" in his sci-fi novel "Starship Troopers".
Please cover the Scrin ground vehicles next! I love these lore videos and the Scrin are by far my favourite part of the Tiberium side of C&C! _(so devastated when they were not included for C&C 4... yet another of its too numerous failings)_
10:00: waaait is the mastermind a reference to the turrets in Portal? They like turning people on eachother (the turrets would taunt you to disobey orders), and they have a very similar look. The laserbeam can be interpreted as like the laser sight the turrets had, or liberally even as an upgrade of the original 12.7mg design to one with a proper railgun.
@@falcon121989 good point. Turning 12 in 2008, most games that were out around that time I've kind of internalized as "been around for quite a while" and it's only now that I realize that they are era-mates
I had completely forgotten about the existence of this game, even though I played it for a very long time years ago It's nice to see recent videos on this, though I guess the franchise has been dead for a long time? There haven't been any new games since
I was fully expecting CnC4 to be about a full scrin invasion as directed by the Scrin Supervisor, with Nod and GDI being bled to death, heck maybe even Cabal would return somehow to aid in the war effort against the Scrin, or maybe Legion if not Cabal. But 15 years later after CnC3... still no trace of CnC4... shame
It makes sense for gameplay reasons that the Buzzer swarms are easily killed by most weapons otherwise they would be too powerful. But outside of that machine gun fire should have little to no effect on a swarm of flying razor blades. One could argue that the explosion of a grenade or small rocket disperses the swarm instantly or that a flame thrower easily melts the small metal pieces. But bullets? No chance! As I said I don't complain for gameplay reasons but I think if we ever saw a Buzzer swarm in a cinematic it would be a different thing. Sadly that's unlikely to ever happen.
If you ask me what they face wasn't a military unit but a mining unit repurposed to be a makeshift military unit since most of them uses plasma cutters and bombs that destroy tiberium but not causes them to explode the only unit that the scrin that annihilate tiberium is the mothership and its original use was as a weapon since it attack so slow that a couple of anti air can destroy it easily most scrin units have a harvest tiberium function
Im seeing people mention this massive threat was just miners. It reminds me of the Ceph from Crisis. They could overpower Earth's military power and all they were was a group of scientists and environmentalists.
the thing that annoyed most C&C 3:TW/KW was the lack of development on the sub faction and possible campain expasions for Tib wars using the sub factions: GDI (Steel Talons): really got the worse end of the Development. bugger all infantry, no faction specific version of the armory and other structures (Mech Bay that focuses upgrades more on their vehicles) the possiblity of the Goliath Walker (The bigger brother to Titan with 2 rocket pods and 4 120mm guns that could be upgraded with Railguns, basically to replace the Mammoth Mk2 Tank) other vehicles, Faction variants on GDI Defences. most important they could've Improved Mastadon MK1 (what I call the Mammoth MK2) as an Epic/Uber unit. I have my own head canon for Steel Talons GDI (Main Factions): the Main faction was already well built (though some units needs Remodelling). well balanced though should've leaning more towards air power. GDI Should've Had the Kodiak Battlecruiser (you all know which one) with a slight redesign as its Epic/Uber unit. even having a smaller cruiser called the Havoc Class as a counter to the Scrin Devestator Warship (believe me i have alot to say about that). Using the Orbital Uplink as Unit building structure. GDI (ZOCOM): this needed more factions specifc units and structures focused more on Heavy Infantry with a some vehicles have more on the sonic weapons. MARV Redesigned. Nod its sub factions in KW were well flushed out. however I would have liked to see unique Uber/Epic units for them. Scrin and its sub factions just needed abit Ironing out with the mother ship becoming a Epic/Uber unit for Travaller-59 and not a support power.
i like the idea that the invasion isn't even a military force like the way all the units it seem like they are more industrial or like worker class that bug there he's got a wife and 38,000 kids to feed he needs this job and he's not going to let any hum mon what ever take it from him "give me a plasma cutter ill show then what happens when you get in the way of my 350 grata check"
If it's possible, I would like to see Videos revisiting Generals C&C but this time focus on The Rise of The Red mod. The mod would feel like a massive timeskip in The Generals C&C universe
Imagine if the Scrin in C&C3 was just a mining and scout group, that didn't have acces to their REAL military, and all the scrin units was just workers, not soldiers.
Question I have noticed that no one seems to talk of the 4th Tiberium Wars game is that because everyone has just decided as a collective that it doesn't exist? Or am I just missing something
The 4th game was a cash grab and very lacking in mechanics compared to the 3rd game because EA tried to compete with starcraft at the time so we decided to completely ignore its existence and end the story line on Kanes wrath dlc
It always amazes me when I remember/realize that the initial scrin invasion force is essentially a mining expedition rather than a military force.
well it's more the mining force has several security detachments from the actual military with special forces
If they send truly their military forces, GDI pretty much doom.
It's a basically a mining expedition that brought along some guns to deal with remaining wildlife.
40k potential lore evolution 🎉
@@marley7868IE the USG Ishimura.
ALL Scrin infantry heals to 100% in a Tiberium field - what you saw there is squads that lost members. A squad of disintegrators (say 4) which lost 2 of them, won't heal above 50%, due to it being the squad's health bar. All other infantry squads in the game behave the exact same (see Zone Troopers). The only exceptions is replenish-able squads of GDI via the Armory.
Yup once again gdi get op upgrades 🙄 they should of had the shrine and stasis chamber do the same
Ah, that makes sense. My initial assumption was that all the Scrin infantry did heal in the Tiberium field, but was surprised when some weren't. It hadn't occurred to me that the health bar was tied directly to the number of units in a single squad.
@@Gaggle_of_gays Well, nod are OP enough with their venoms
@@ForTheBrotherhood how are venoms op? Gdi aa guns shred aircraft
@@Gaggle_of_gays Beam mirrors. Their range allows them to act as artillery units and sit just out of AA range
I've always liked to think that this basically was the ultimate goal of Kanes cybernetic research. The creation of a totally loyal, tiberium thriving, army of super soldiers. But of course with human stock and influence.
It's frightening how much damage the scrin infantry was able to deal on Earth, when you realize these besides shock troops were basically garisson troops for the tiberium harvesting operation this invasion force was. If anything it was only a skeleton of what an actual scrin force could be
Just when I think you have finished with tiberium and have no more ideas, you straight up pull out another one. This is why I love your stuff, man. Keep it up
I've still got a long list of topics to talk about in the Tiberium timeline so I'm not gonna be running out of ideas for it anytime soon.
@@Jethild Dewit.
Tempest Rising which supposed to come out next year is clearly a love letter to Command & Conquer with tempest being very similar to tiberium. If he wants to there is another game coming out he could make videos about.
@@orangesilver4568
I'm with you. I also can't wait for Tempest Rising and see another content from Jethild
@@Jethild What else are you going to bring up???? Temple of NOD??? Spaceborne vehicle? GDI Navy, War Factory??? Come on!!!! Unveil the works in progress!!!!
This just reminds me of how much I always wanted a Kanes Wrath 2
the scary thing is we just fought with miners and low level guards... i dont wanna know how devastating a normal scrin soldier or specialized scrin soldier could look like or their gigantic vehicles
Well I'd think that Reaper and Traveller's units can't be too far off. The Shard Walker is said to be rather new to replace the old Gun Walker that is not suitable for any thing other then clearing out primitives like us.
Alternatively, we did see actual Scrin troops, but they were more like the equivalent of private military contractors that were hired to escort a mining company operating in a hazardous region (the hazards in this case being mutated wildlife and what remnants of local advanced civilization persist), so their actual problem wasn't so much that they had "civilianized" military gear but rather than they had far more limited numbers than a true Scrin military operation would field. That is to say, if what hit Earth was a fully prepared invasion force, GDI and Nod would've been bled out in a war of attrition at the very least, if not "nuked" into submission by the Scrin's Tiberium-based strategic weaponry (because you *know* that they must have them somewhere).
Honestly, the fact that a Scrin mining operation still merits in their eyes the presence of weapons that by GDI and Nod standards are city-killers should make us ask "What the fuck are they expecting to face on a world where Tiberium has left nothing but wastelands filled with itself and mutated wildlife?" Like, were they expecting something like a Tiberium-based version of Dune's sandworms or Mass Effect's thresher maws to be commonplace threats? Or are they at war with one or more spacefaring alien civilizations, and they expect to run into enemy raiders?
@@MarqFJA87 if i remember right scrin are not the scrin its the name of alien civilization gdi managed to learn from the tacitus so they automatically assumed the visitors were the scrin
Scrin is basically a mining term.
@@mkvector9539 or a drug cartel, or a cult.
You've shown more love for this beautiful series than EA is possibly even capable of. Thank you.
That's cause EA isn't the creators of the series and just bought it and tried to cash in as much as possible till it ran the series into the ground with command n conquer 4 and the mobile ap game.
@@TekkaSage Do not cite the deep magic to me. I was there when it was written. (I got an original copy of Tiberium Dawn from 1996 ish, I'm aware of what happened to Westwood)
@@l0rf I recall when the universe was born it was 1995. I was born before the world was and have lived many life times of those within this world.
I remember being a kid and loving C&C 3 and Renegade, then 4 came out and it was the first game I was genuinely disappointed by
@@TekkaSage but they did create the Scrin
I wonder sometimes if Yuri was a Scrin to some extent, with his mind control powers, plans of world domination, and his symbol looking like a Scrin glyph...
Red alert is just a different timeline in the universe so maybe a scrin scouted the planet and influenced him or something to cause it. Maybe the ship transmissions are messing with his mind. Either way this is a cool theory.
Well they kinda use the same theme
Weird and unorthodox technology ignore the geneva convention and mind control
@@Rat_Fบcker In the original C&C storyline from Westwood, Yuri was created by Kane, so my guess is that Kane must have obtained some of Scrin mind control technology from the Mastermind and cultist to create Yuri.
@@hoangnguyenbui4614
I think you're right. Kane did many experiments and had Tacitus. Also Yuri's technology had similar design to Nod's technology. Or maybe Yuri is a hybrid of human and scrin?
@@Archont_ Probrably. Hell, he could’ve been a trump card for Nod and humanity against Scrin Overlord. If he wasn’t sucked into the Chrono Vortext base from the original material.
I am rarely ever excited for videos such as these. Not only are they interesting lore videos, they're incredibly well made, intuitive, and just flat out enjoyable. The Tiberium lore series is what inspired me to get C&C3/kanes wrath. It made me realize why people liked the series so much, good world, lore, characters. I sorta realized that kane must "die" so much to fix his back for carrying the entirety of nod in (pretty much) every game
You mean "rarely never excited"?
Things you got wrong / missed or forgot:
all scrin infantry as well as forgotten maruders heal in tiberium ( maruders also cloak in tiberium ) but they dont get lost troops back unlike with gdi armory, scrin infantry also can be healed by repair drones and scrin corrupters which can also heal other scrin vehicles
prodigy ( not sure if mastermind too) can teleport any unit from anywhere on the map next to itself
I've always wanted a full scale invasion campaign for the Scrin. Having to farm and basically spread the Tiberium out from the Red Zones and into the Yellow and Blue zones to complete the full terraforming process.
I'd like a new C&C game that only concerns the Scrin, sort of like KW only concerned Kane and Nod. The GDI vs Nod is fun and all but it would be cool to expand the lore.
I'm a simple man, I see a scrin video, I click on it.
Thank you sir.
Scrin only sent it's harvesting sect, now imagine Scrin with it's full military.
I can't believe we went through the entire video without referring to them as "scrinfantry". ;_;
Regardless-- thank you, another great video : D
(Warning: Almost certainly false, very dubious at best as a source of information.) - As I recall, the in game intelligence database had something on the Disintegrators. As I recall, it went like this: GDI had captured one mostly intact after killing it, and were planning to dissect it to see what it's internal makeup was. This however ended up going badly, as when the body was waiting it ruptured, and started secreting some sort of corrosive compound that ate though the very sturdy examination table (I forget what it was made out of - tungsten, reinforced steel, or something?) forcing the lab to drop the idea in order to deal with the compound that ate the table. This had no impact gameplay wise, but you could make a case for fallen Scrin infantry being engineered to basically self-destruct, and become small scale bioweapons after death in order to avoid any nosy lot poking around to figure out what they look like on the inside. Now imagine after Tib war 3 how many Scrin infantry bodies there were all over the place, and how much of a nightmare after a nightmare it was when they all began to self-destruct and contaminate their vicinity with the mystery corrosive compound? Especially if it was Tiberium based, which in all likeliness is kinda probable.
I think you may have gotten that information from somewhere else because I went through all the Intel Database entries related to the Scrin and none of them give any details about dissecting Disintegrators. It sounds like something that may have been in that Tiberium Wars spin off novel that was released around the same time as the game.
@@Jethild I will try to dig it up, because I am very sure it was mentioned in the intel database. If I find it, I will drop you the name of the entry.
Upon a quick glance, you are right. It's still something I remember quite clearly, so I have no idea where it came from. I recall it being more of a side remark attached to the later part of something, more than anything. Though, this could very well just be a case of the Mandela effect. I checked the manual just to be sure, and it wasn't mentioned there either. Either this is really me remembering things ala Mandela effect, or it's some really obscure and forgotten stuff. I have not read said spin off novel, though I could have gotten the lore given to me via a third party if it is in there somewhere.
As I recall relating to the mention, it confused me at the time greatly, because the Disintegrators blow up when you run them over with a tank, rather than melt them via some corrosive compound. A potential explanation for my memory pulling a stunt here is that a younger mind may have confused the disintegrators "bleeding" with the explosion, until I re-read the manual...but I have no idea how the heck I would also then go onto tag GDI trying to dissect one of em and ending up with a melted test bench for their troubles.
All I can think of for a source would be a potential mention of it somewhere on the old websites Command and Conquer had at the time, which spoke about some of the units. That, or it was a very old game magazine that had an article about Command and Conquer 3 with a lot of things changed. I recall said article (which was in Finnish, so I am suspecting translation errors/bad games journalism might have happened too) talking about how Command and Conquer 3 would feature some features clearly not in the game, such as needing to decontaminate vehicles from Tiberium if they drove over some/ that some sort of orbital superiority battlefield aspect would be a part of the game. Sadly, I do not have any such magazine on hand to offer up as proof.
Canon or not, that's not a fun thought.
@@videocrowsnest5251 I actually know where this came from. The C&C wikia had the lore you are describing written on their disintigrator page for while. I remember not being able to find a source and suspecting it was fanfiction. Later I learned the C&C wikia had issues with people adding fanfiction, especially to the TW pages. It's been cleaned up since.
_There is always Tib lore to be explored..._
Can't wait to see what next you have in store for us Jethild. Thank you for this video!
scrinfantry is so fun. shock troopers so badass especially
I always wondered how riflemen and militants killed buzzers. I figured they'd use explosive rounds and their grenade launchers so that the concussive force and shrapnel from the explosion would dispatch a swarm
(Another dubious source warning) Per the intelligence database, GDI scientists speculated that the effect of bullets/explosives passing through/hitting the buzzer hive somehow messed/interfered with the limited central intelligence controlling them all. So basically, they don't so much hit the individual buzzers, but disrupt the limited central intelligence which controls them, thus causing the swarm to lose cohesion and for em to dissipate.
I imagine it as in the middle of a buzzer squad there's something like a core, like a small mobile buzzer hive, needed because the buzzers themselves can't live outside a hive since they cannot absorb tiberium radiation well enough individually. When infantry shoots a buzzer hive it targets the core but the buzzers block the incoming fire until there's none left to do so. This also makes sense why snipers can one-shot them, using high velocity AP ammo it goes through the buzzers straight into the core.
Obviously this is all made up by me but I like it.
@@CharlieTuna8 Another alternative is that due to the bioengineered nature of the Buzzers (much as most Scrin infantry), they are on their own incapable of functioning. Think them being receivers, and whatever it is at the core keeping them all in a swarm formation, the sender/transmiter. Then when shooting it, this central point gets damaged/disabled, thus causing the swarm to dissipate and die.
@@CharlieTuna8 That's some Evangelion like shenaningans right there, holy shit. O__O
But it makes sense. The only way to stop the damn swarm is to destroy its core, just like the Core of an Angel or an EVA.
I think people also forget that the Scrins Infantry and Vehicles are not military units. Most are either outdated or civilian purposed. So imagine what an up to date or modern Scrin army would look like.
Jethild still making vids about C&C in 2022, what an absolute Legend!
Certainly doing the lords work!
Funfact master mind and prodigy can also be heal by repair drone from either warfactory or repair drone support power
I have a rather interesting theory that the Scrin work in a similar way to the Combine Advisors. They never use their own bodies or don't have their original host bodies and merely upload themselves into what essentially are living computers. Each creature doesn't look like it's own biological creation nor evolution, not even tib mutations in the past have ended up with what the Scrin are like, leading to the idea that they are bio-engineered while the only instances we have the actual Scrin are all digitized.
Imagine if the Scrin and Combine started fighting. Wouldn't that be awesome?
We ALMOST got a Half-Life rts game, and on the switch too!
It would have taken place during the Seven Hour War.
Scrin is the best faction in all C&C games (in my opinion of course). I was so disapointed what EA did with them after their invasion...
Scrin Infantry? Hmm... you mean Scrinfantry.
Yeaaaaaa
*shows myself out*
Scary thing is all the Scrinn forces equated to a mining expedition holding its own against GDI and Nod .
fun fact : me and my friends make misheard joke Shock Troopers' spawn speech (like in that video) as "Salamu'alaikum" (Arab : Peace be upon you). Sometimes when they raid base with Shock Trooper ambush, we yell "Salamu'alaikum" then destroy the base.
Greetings from Indonesia. Nice video.
If only EA didn't screw every franchise, We might see better Scrin one day and the truth of Kane is more logical
Just like the Rangdan, the Scrin fell to humanities ingenuity for violence and demonstrates the fate for all those that oppose the Emperor’s grand vision
Your content is so we'll done. The attention to detail and how you put it together blows me away. 10/10 would watch again.
Each new video is a great joy! And Scrin... They are not the most peculiar alien faction in RTS, Ok it is space bugs one more time but it is ... crystal bugs! Design of their buildings and machines is great and effects of their weapons looks awesome even now. When the game was released it was really "WOW"
Always good when it was only a week ago you binged a newfound channel and they drop fresh content.
Sometimes the Scrin tech makes you forget that these aren't even the military arms of the species. NOD and GDI were more or less fighting space farmers during the 3rd war, and those farmers managed to build a portal back home.
Hi Jet, I just wanted to thank you for all of your work. I mean, I always was to every more complex lore, and C&C is my home but your videos... They're just calming me.
Some examples:
When I and my boyfriend broke up, I entered UA-cam crying and saw ur vid about Ion weaponry. Helped me get better and actually calm myself before parents returned.
The day when I was banned from my main community server. I was asshole. I knew it now. But then I was totally destroyed. I just couldn't stop raging about anything. And then, I watched your video about Scrin. It helped me too, got to think about other things than that pesky ban.
And situation from now (20:22 my timezone, 21.08.2022).
I just got mental break about not being on fucking private server. I know, stupid but... My friend (bf that I broke up with) just saw that they were playing card against humanity on that server. And left. I just got so much hate to him, and them, and even owner (she was talking with me if I wouldn't mind be in THAT server, even throw some of ideas for her she used).
I was just ready to kill someone. But then, saw this video. And got calm again. Thought about how could I write to owner. And finally I wrote peacefuly and master minded messages. She said that no one really just got idea of inviting me. And for friend... I messaged to him about how much that was bitch move, but also I said to him that even after this all shit, I like him and I'm not angry now. And so, he thought about idea of actually giving idea to everyone in that server to invite me XD.
So, thank you so much for your work bro. You're reallly amazing
Beautiful video. Great production. Thanks for posting this. Made my day.
You are great ,
Your commander and conquer zero hour videos are fantastic i hope you make more videos about it
Ah, the Scrin. So much potential for CnC 4. Sadly, they never made one.
But what about Tiberium Twi--
I SAID THERE'S NO CnC 4!
lol
I have bad news about you shitty non canon fanfiction...
Disintegrators seem to have taken a lot of inspiration from the warrior bugs found in Starship Troopers.
The big mandible, small eye right behind and the arrangement of the legs
2:29 They're the reason why in Red Alert 3, the frontline infantry(Peacekeepers, Imperial Warriors, and Conscripts) were tasked with anti-garrison... Of course they have to switch to their secondary weapon to do so, or in the Imperial Warrior's case go... *TENNOHEIKA BANZAI!!!*
5:16 Much like Red Alert 3's Flak Troopers equipped with Magnetic Mines...
Also with regards to the Mastermind... They're not actually using their minds to mind control, instead they use what's called a "Manipulator Device" which they would implant on units and structures...
Dunno why the Prodigy has it as well considering it's mutated brain would be able to mind control anything by itself...
As a massive C&C fan (I have a NOD emblem tattoo) I love your channel. Keep it up, bro!
Absolutely fantastic as always.
Awesome work as always!!!
To think that all this damage was caused by what was essentially a bunch of mall cops
Love ur work mate keep it up
In my opinion, the Scrin Infantry by far is the closest thing we got regarding about Robert H Heinlein's depiction of the "bugs" in his sci-fi novel "Starship Troopers".
Please cover the Scrin ground vehicles next!
I love these lore videos and the Scrin are by far my favourite part of the Tiberium side of C&C! _(so devastated when they were not included for C&C 4... yet another of its too numerous failings)_
lets go more CNC 3 lore 🥳
Glad to see my favourite faction in action! Will we see Scrin vehicle next?
Always remember that what you fought wasn't the military of the Scrin, but a security force for the mining operation. Scary Stuff
Nice vid as always
Awesome as always. Good work. When you run out of ideas maybe look at the lore of C&C ... 4? maybe do the video like its a fever dream?
The lore itself seems too confusing, the only thing interested me was that tower.
Bro you on heavy crack theres no cnc 4
Watching this video really shows how the Tib Sun soundtrack works so much better with this game than the generic score Tib Wars shipped with.
Now I'm wanting to play Tiberium Wars again.
10:00: waaait is the mastermind a reference to the turrets in Portal? They like turning people on eachother (the turrets would taunt you to disobey orders), and they have a very similar look. The laserbeam can be interpreted as like the laser sight the turrets had, or liberally even as an upgrade of the original 12.7mg design to one with a proper railgun.
tibwar released months before portal, so i would say it isn´t.
@@falcon121989 good point. Turning 12 in 2008, most games that were out around that time I've kind of internalized as "been around for quite a while" and it's only now that I realize that they are era-mates
I had completely forgotten about the existence of this game, even though I played it for a very long time years ago
It's nice to see recent videos on this, though I guess the franchise has been dead for a long time? There haven't been any new games since
I love this channel !
One thing i love doing is traveler again GDI the battle between AA and the Fleet is so chaotic
Surely "Scrinfantry?"
Scrin is an old English mining term given to a vein or deposit of minerals.
I was fully expecting CnC4 to be about a full scrin invasion as directed by the Scrin Supervisor, with Nod and GDI being bled to death, heck maybe even Cabal would return somehow to aid in the war effort against the Scrin, or maybe Legion if not Cabal. But 15 years later after CnC3... still no trace of CnC4... shame
Love your videos ! You do your research!
You deserve more subs, excellent videos, you got me playing C&C again.
No infantries stand in front of GDI's sniper teams to survive.
That tease at the end thodamn I want another tib game have the scrin come back but with an invasion force not farmers
A scrin mining expedition can hold out against a combine military force of GDA and NOD..welp, they're end is nearer than I expected
Can't do paperwork, boss. New C&C lore vid dropped
This "aliens" are just ingenious species.
Proverb Nod commander
True to their word. The nod has arsenal design to kill scrins with catalyst missile
Are you also going to cover the infantry forces of GDI and NOD. Really love these videos. Stay healthy.
Yep, I'll eventually get to those.
Thanks for information ℹ thanks 🙏
The mastermind and culties are basically like Yuri prime and Yuri clone of red alert 2
It makes sense for gameplay reasons that the Buzzer swarms are easily killed by most weapons otherwise they would be too powerful. But outside of that machine gun fire should have little to no effect on a swarm of flying razor blades. One could argue that the explosion of a grenade or small rocket disperses the swarm instantly or that a flame thrower easily melts the small metal pieces. But bullets? No chance! As I said I don't complain for gameplay reasons but I think if we ever saw a Buzzer swarm in a cinematic it would be a different thing. Sadly that's unlikely to ever happen.
Let’s just remember that what we saw in C&C3 TW was merely a mining defense force.
Oh yeah I knew today was a good day
Funny how mastermind shots in single player but Online can't shot and only mind control.
Seven miniutes! A new record :D
There is no strategic game in the world better than commander and conquer zero hour
It’s scary how big the scrin are which you can’t see in gameplay
2:01 The Buzzers sound like a swarm of wasps from hell!
Amazing work jethild O să faci o lore despre starcraft.
Starcraft cel jocul?
i will sell my soul just to get new GOOD Command and Conquer GAME !
Great video. Where did you get the background at ~13:05? Looks kind of like a scary eye.
I custom made it myself. The emblem in the middle of the screen is actually just an indention of the Scrin symbol.
Another great vid!
Im guessing they might be the descendants of a species completely taken over by Tiberium.
If you ask me what they face wasn't a military unit but a mining unit repurposed to be a makeshift military unit since most of them uses plasma cutters and bombs that destroy tiberium but not causes them to explode the only unit that the scrin that annihilate tiberium is the mothership and its original use was as a weapon since it attack so slow that a couple of anti air can destroy it easily most scrin units have a harvest tiberium function
Given the design of ravagers, maybe they're another species version of the fiend.
scary thought: the Scrin fought in Tib Wars isnt even their military. Its just a mining security detail
I didn't know there was a Scrin campaign.
Im seeing people mention this massive threat was just miners. It reminds me of the Ceph from Crisis. They could overpower Earth's military power and all they were was a group of scientists and environmentalists.
the thing that annoyed most C&C 3:TW/KW was the lack of development on the sub faction and possible campain expasions for Tib wars using the sub factions:
GDI (Steel Talons): really got the worse end of the Development. bugger all infantry, no faction specific version of the armory and other structures (Mech Bay that focuses upgrades more on their vehicles) the possiblity of the Goliath Walker (The bigger brother to Titan with 2 rocket pods and 4 120mm guns that could be upgraded with Railguns, basically to replace the Mammoth Mk2 Tank) other vehicles, Faction variants on GDI Defences. most important they could've Improved Mastadon MK1 (what I call the Mammoth MK2) as an Epic/Uber unit. I have my own head canon for Steel Talons
GDI (Main Factions): the Main faction was already well built (though some units needs Remodelling). well balanced though should've leaning more towards air power. GDI Should've Had the Kodiak Battlecruiser (you all know which one) with a slight redesign as its Epic/Uber unit. even having a smaller cruiser called the Havoc Class as a counter to the Scrin Devestator Warship (believe me i have alot to say about that). Using the Orbital Uplink as Unit building structure.
GDI (ZOCOM): this needed more factions specifc units and structures focused more on Heavy Infantry with a some vehicles have more on the sonic weapons. MARV Redesigned.
Nod its sub factions in KW were well flushed out. however I would have liked to see unique Uber/Epic units for them.
Scrin and its sub factions just needed abit Ironing out with the mother ship becoming a Epic/Uber unit for Travaller-59 and not a support power.
Damn, I would love another C&C game.
Ah yes, for the longest time the successors of Westwood gazed upon Starcraft with green eyes and said we need to make that.
More CnC videos? Noice , keep em coming commando.
great video. when starcraft?
i like the idea that the invasion isn't even a military force like the way all the units it seem like they are more industrial or like worker class
that bug there he's got a wife and 38,000 kids to feed he needs this job and he's not going to let any hum mon what ever take it from him "give me a plasma cutter ill show then what happens when you get in the way of my 350 grata check"
Oh man this takes me back. A CnC Lore channel? SUB'D
Baybeeeeee! YEAH
If it's possible, I would like to see Videos revisiting Generals C&C but this time focus on The Rise of The Red mod. The mod would feel like a massive timeskip in The Generals C&C universe
Imagine if the scrin found out about the forgotten
ah tiberium, the game I really wish they made & released
Imagine if the Scrin in C&C3 was just a mining and scout group, that didn't have acces to their REAL military, and all the scrin units was just workers, not soldiers.
Question I have noticed that no one seems to talk of the 4th Tiberium Wars game is that because everyone has just decided as a collective that it doesn't exist? Or am I just missing something
The 4th game was a cash grab and very lacking in mechanics compared to the 3rd game because EA tried to compete with starcraft at the time so we decided to completely ignore its existence and end the story line on Kanes wrath dlc