I think these people have completely forgotten the difference between fiction and reality. It's so incredibly disrespectful to the victims and their families.
@@D_A86 that's a completely different thing. netflix shows are no less made for our entertainment. getting a tattoo of a serial killer unmistakably serves as a commemoration and gives off the wrong idea
@@mistaUHOH215 Oh OK, so it alright to make endless show on any or all serial killers, murders, criminals ect. But when someone wants to show their interest in the subject in the form of a tattoo it's suddenly bad. Your logic makes no sense.
@@D_A86 TV shows and films are a grey area in this regard. Usually they are more than an hour of runtime, so you get the opportunity to contextualize, explain, develop the topic, and you can also choose to respect the victims and their families by centering them, instead of the killers. Of course a lot of shows and films also glorify the killers, so it's a spectrum. But there is NO WAY for a serial killer tattoo to do all that. By the very act of marking your skin with a serial killer's face, you are giving THEM the spotlight, with no context.
Getting a tattoo of a serial killer is the same as getting a tattoo of hitler, Stalin or Saddam. It’s not bAd aSs or qUirKy, it’s borderline psychotic.
I find it interesting that she totally wouldn’t get a tattoo of any of those people, but is perfectly okay with the younger, charismatic, conventionally attractive yet emotionally damaged “bad boy” serial killers that have a reputation for being attractive to women like her. Thus proving it’s absolutely a sexual thing and not for “art” like she claims
@@cyberbeat11 he technically did fund bombing of people in the middle east and that is absolutely horrible, but this very much isn't on the level of *Holocaust* . Not excusing Obamas contribution to American imperialism but just pointing that difference out.
if i met someone with serial killer tattoos I would literally be scared that they themselves have psychotic and violent tendencies, cause who tf thinks this is ok? she can deny it all she wants, but you don't get someone's portrait tattooed on you if you don't admire them at least a little.
It isnt about admiring them. For me its about their criminology and psychological minds that are extremely interesting. Do you think someone whostudies serial killers as a career is a killer to?????
@@jasperatymrochwite7275 the tattooing of a portrait is about admiration tho, would you tattoo a portrait of someone you hate/despise? No. Studying them can be for you to understand them and doesn't require liking them
@@jasperatymrochwite7275 there are awful people everywhere. I remember a few years ago there was a case in my country where a psychology student killed his colleague because she didn't like him back 😬
Just so you know, people with psychotic disorders are far more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators. The only thing truly increasing the likelihood of them being violent is whether they also have a substance use disorder or ASPD. These killers were all declared legally sane. Having psychosis does not make you morally wrong or a bad person. Please stop adding to the stigma, people with psychotic disorders are abused enough as is, especially within the mental health system.
She’s 150% condoning their crimes. She “designed” her sleeve trying to make them cool. It’s the absolute most disgusting way to spit in every single one of those victims faces. I hope this really makes it hard for her to get a job in psychology. Because this shows how sick she is too. This makes me so angry
Do you "have a job in psychology"? If I highly doubt it. If this makes you angry, you are in need of a psychiatrist before you start mass murdering people you don't agree with.
It’s actually not a good choice for her desired career either. Tattoos are becoming more acceptable but forensic related jobs will deny you employment if you seem too obsessed/fascinated with gore and serial killers.
"If you can't beat them eat them" would be funny with Hannibal Lecter, but it's tasteless with a real cannibal. We like fictional villains because they and their victims aren't real, there's a huge difference to actual murderers. Like, I enjoyed the narrative about the chain of abuse in She-Ra, but that doesn't mean I'd take a tattoo of my mother.
Id argue its almost the same thing since a character like hannibal represents the same thing, he still murdered, which is nothing to be glorified, fake or not
Ayo that's funny because I'm currently getting a horror/supernatural/paranormnal them leg sleeve and I fully plan on getting something related to the Hannibal movies added into it
I’ll say one positive for the families and other people though - that is one of the quickest ways you turn yourself into a permanent walking red flag, so other people know you’re awful and keep the hell away from you. Tattoos say a lot about a person, and kind of like a swastika tattoo or something super offensive, people will notice and they won’t wanna be around it. Great way to advertise yourself to the world so they know why they shouldn’t bother with getting to know you
Bro its the quotes that got me. And the fact that she's studying the forensic psychology. I had a phase myself where I was super obsessed with serial killers but I got to the bottom of the rabbit hole and realized. There really challenged humans. Like Ted Bundy was suave and a good talker sure but he couldn't read properly above a 9th grade level or do like any algebra. People like to think these monsters are like super smart and incredibly intelligent but they're not. There at best getting lucky and killing people no one would notice. Ed Kemper could barely interact with people in day to life until he started killing people. Its the only way he had confidence was when he felt he could physically threaten somebody. Gacy had a crippling addiction to CP specifically young boys and that's what drove him to killing them. These are not super intelligent, above humanity, ultra prime creatures, the media makes them out to be. Latest studies on Jack the ripper points to him being a scorned lover of one of the last victims and was killing prostitutes' to psych himself up for killing the final one. People like to believe there's something else to the people who kill, like there's some intangible about them that makes them better. There isn't there just cooked in the head and needed help before they committed their crimes.
I totally agree. People fetishize these killers, but really, they are damaged, despicable bottom feeders who prey on the weak…and then get caught. Even Dennis Radar was so stupid he sent his contact info to the police. Israel Keyes seemed like a worst kind of monster…but it was still a stupid mistake that got him caught. Golden State killer was (unfortunately) probably one of scariest because if it hadn’t been for a Hail Mary DNA match, he would have died of old age and we never would’ve known. The scariest ones are the ones we don’t know about. The faceless ones. She shoulda left her leg terrifyingly blank!;)
There’s a jubilee video matching crime to a person. A woman working with criminals did terribly, and showed her stupidity and bias there, yet she’s been working in legal scene for decades! So there’s not that much guarantee
@@malus7452 not remotely comparable. instead get a lineup of forensic psychs, then get a lawyer to pick who they'd hire and a victim to pick who they'd trust. it's so bad prosecution AND defense would both immediately say "anyone but her"
@@Leo_Pard_A4 i do what this girl wants to do for a living, and have also worked as a consultant in hiring experts (and jury selection). so yes, i can judge if someone is appropriate for the job bc i'm literally paid to do that. experts can be disqualified for unpaid parking tickets - you don't get to call yourself an expert and hand in your work, you have to meet certain standards. you get thoroughly examined by all parties to determine if you're credible. whatever intern discovers her tattoos would be king for a day bc those would be brought up immediately (and gleefully). nobody forced her to give interviews using her full name or post photos that showed her face. if she isn't bright enough to realize those choices have consequences, it casts douibt on the usefulness and reliability of her judgment as a whole. she showed a total lack of maturity, judgment, empathy, remorse, and honesty. i wouldn't even hire her to answer the phones
As someone who has lives in the area where a famous serial killer grew up, and has met many people who used to know him and even distant family members of his, that stuff isn't taken lightly here. Even one of my highschool teachers was almost picked up by him and had trauma from that. Also people that knew him before he was killing said he was literally always creepy. I hate that I always see him depicted as handsome and charismatic when he was just an awful person that ruined countless lives. The people who knew him don't brag about it, don't talk about it for clout, they are deeply disturbed by him as everyone should be.
My mom was homeless when she was 16/17 and she swears on her life that she was nearly tricker and preyed upon by Ted Bundy. I 100% believe her and it still haunts her to this day.
Hahahaha I just found this video now and left the same comment, not realizing this video is 6mo old. I'm so happy someone else commented on that diss 😂❤
i laughed until i realized the brain in dahmer's hands 90% likely not old enough to be fully developed. like damn...girl is 29, his 2 youngest victims ADDED TOGETHER are younger than her. youtube, a rollercoaster of emotion
I feel like this woman is living under the assumption she'll never interact with the victims' families. And sure, maybe it's less likely for high profile victims. But the families of victims of serial killers are everywhere. Someone in my family was a victim of a serial killer (her case hasn't been solved and I didn't know her but this stuff makes me furious). Especially since she's going into a field where she may be interacting with victims' families and possibly with the bodies of victims themselves through her work, and knowing she's the kind of person who would go to serial killer conferences where victims' families frequently go for recognition to their case, even if she doesn't meet the family of one of Jeffrey Dahmer's victims, she will be meeting other victims' families. I can't imagine they'd be too happy to look down and see her leg painted with the faces of people who took children away from their families in the same way their children were taken. Especially when Jeffrey Dahmer is so widely understood as an example of white supremacy causing cases to go unsolved and the fetishization of Black and Brown people.
I’m glad you led with her age. I’d expect this from a 20 year old possibly, but 29? She’s way beyond knowing better. How could you think this is cool in any way?
Im 39 and about to get something like this, this wouldn't be a problem if I got a sleeve full of movie monsters Jason, Freddy, Mycheal Myers, but then someone wants to get a tattoo of the real life ones and it is a problem. Like it or not serial killers are a big part of American Culture, Culture in general. If they weren't then people would not write movies and books, some people base there whole Carrers around serial killers. People in the comments are harsh as F**K on this girl she gets these things tatted on her skin cause its what she is into and that is why people get tattoo's in the first place that does not mean you should look down on her for getting these tattoo's.
I really feel like the people who are THIS obsessed with serial killers and "just find it so fascinating!" actually idolize them and in at least some cases would love to do something similar themself if they weren't afraid of getting caught.
That's why laws exist. Caligula gave his own cousin a blood eagle for talking shit. I'd say if the purge was in effect 60% of people would go on a homicidal rampage
it goes far beyond " raising a sense of awarness" but this is sick ass shit. why didnt she just collect books on these people and leave it at that? this is baffling. id just completely black out my leg with black ink if i was her......
I think you're right in that I believe they do idolize these people as individuals to look up to you and yeah they need to think of the families and how the victim felt in the moment.
There was a woman in east Asia - I believe South Korea or Japan? - Who did this just a couple of weeks ago. Killed a woman she met online posing as a 14 year old to “see what murder felt like” because of her true crime obsession
I’ve met a handful of dudes while working as a counselor in a correctional facilities who have full sleeves with portraits of serial killers. What’s ironic is it’s never the guys who have violent charges. It’s always the dudes who burglarized houses or cut off catalytic converters to support a dope habit. The truly violent among them aren’t into any of this crap because they live it. No need to glorify someone else’s violence when you’ve got a rack of domestic violence charges or are serving time for felony murder. I’ve actually seen guys with this odd serial killer kink get called out by other men for being a sick bastard. The one thing that absolutely doesn’t fly in any type of correctional facility are crimes against women & children. Someone like Ted Bundy would be considered disgusting by the overwhelming majority of the prison population. All of these men had mothers and many have wives & children. This is also why Dahmer was killed. It was a power move by the man who did it, but he picked the sickest, most notorious guy not just for notoriety, but because he was despised. A woman with this shit on her body is a walking red flag, I’m sorry. Women are killed every day, especially marginalized groups of them (POCs, queer women, trans women, sex workers) who are killed at a disproportionate rate.
Lets not forget that Dahmer targeted black young boys from low income families and part of the reason he managed to kill as much as he did was because of the massive incompetence and institutional racism of the police. She, a white woman, getting him tatted is so disgusting I cant even verbalize it.
I agree, the tattoo artist is just as disrespectful as the customer. I get that this is how they make a living, but being a decent human being is priceless.
The fact that she herself made the comparison to fictional killers says it all, these shows and content are causing people to see real killers as characters. They are divorced from reality, I can’t imagine how the families feel and I know that multiple families have come out and spoken against these glamorising depictions. It’s all fine and well too for Zach effron to say he was being respectful but the show existing in the first place is disrespectful. Documentaries are educational at least, what do we gain from an actor who is an established heartthrob doing that, nothing of value. If you want to have that interest that’s fine but blasting it all over your leg and going out and showing it to everyone is shitty, it’s an incredibly triggering subject matter and people just trying to live their life shouldn’t be forced to look at that. It just shows a clear lack of empathy for victims and a disregard for anyone who has to look at that.
True crime is entertainment point blank period. People like to pretend it's educational or they watch to deepen their knowledge of psychology but that's just something they say to make themselves feel better about the fact they enjoy hearing these twisted dark stories. It's so alien to the average person that it might as well be fiction. You only have to look at how huge the genre is on UA-cam, it's just a hobby now for a lot of people, no more deep or meaningful than watching football or a cartoon but noone likes to admit it
@@buuurrrrppppp221 I think some do take it as lighthearted as football or a cartoon, but I feel like true crime videos are as much entertainment as any other documentary or informative/story video is. Whether it's nature, war, biographical, etc. They're true events that have happened in the past and that tends to be interesting to people, especially when they make you aware of the true intentions of too many people in the world. The online culture around true crime is pretty disturbing though, mostly made up of people who don't seem to understand the events aren't a work of fiction. Like the lady in the video, or people online who see true crime in the same way they see a show series like Stranger Things.
@@candyandacurrantbun I agree with you and maybe went a little over the top with my first comment. I had in mind some of the content creators on here and recent Netflix biopics rather than actual documents
5:30 “Now riddle me that?” Lol there’s nothing to riddle. Being a fan of the horror genre, or true crime for that matter, IS NOT the same as permanently tattooing real murderer’s faces onto your body. She gives off major ‘falling in love and marrying your convicted, serial killer pen pal’ vibes.
Britnee 'looks so normal, she looks like an average sorority girl'. That's exactly what they say about the serial killers. 'He seemed so normal, we were friends, I never would have guessed.' It's part of how they get away with it
That had me wondering, how is she supposed to look? People will sometimes say about someone that they "look like a serial killer" or something similar if they're disheveled, have a dark look on their face, behave suspiciously, etc. but I can't think of an equivalent for people obsessed with serial killers besides maybe "emo aesthetic teenage girl"?
as a criminal justice major, the fact she put these people on her body is shocking, disturbing, and flat out wrong. going into the field we want to help people and stop things from happening. her obsession with the topic absolutely is disturbing. i would NEVER tattoo any serious offender on my body. never. imagine being a family victim of a murderer/serial killer and this lady stood up to testify as an expert. i would be enraged.
as somebody who is also in school right now for forensic psychology and is also fascinated by the psychology of serial killers and whatnot, this is absolutely bonkers to me and i could not imagine getting any killer tattooed on me. she is absolutely glorifying them and their acts and holds them on a pedestal (which is also a condition called Hybristophilia). this is highly disturbing and i hope she gets the professional help she needs
I didn't know there was a name for that as a condition. But makes sense. People with that disorder are probably the same types that would send the killers naked pictures and letters if they were still alive.
My mom's step sister was killed by the Green River killer. Could only imagine what would go through my mom's head if she saw somebody with a Ridgeway tattoo. Yikes.
5:19 She answered her own question. It is because they're not real 🤦🏻♀️ The monsters on her body tortured, abused, and took advantage of actual people, like you and me. People with goals and aspirations. People with dreams and emotions. People that feel happiness, sadness, and fear. Those people must've been terrified in their final moments, as they begged for their lives and thought about their families and how they'd never see them again. The actions of those monsters had real world consequences. Their victims had friends and families. They left many hearts broken, as their parents were probably wondering when they'd come home, then their fear and anxiety started growing the more time that had passed and they got the feeling that something was terribly wrong. Their whole world came crashing down as they learned that their loved one, the joy and light in their life, was taken away from them all because some sicko wanted to satisfy their twisted desires. The friends and family members of the victims still haven't healed. Yes, time makes it easier, but they still miss their loved ones and wish they were still here. I hate people like this, idk what is wrong with their heads. If they lack empathy or are just immature or stupid. I would never want any of those monsters on my body.
BTW, as someone who tried becoming a psychologist and was in therapy for years: therapists and psychogists train many of their clients to be more understanding and have more empathy. Lots of the groundwork is about relearning empathy. Because it's a skill and I feel like she should try that herself before trying to be a psychologist
Great job on this video. I completely agree. Not only do the families have to relive the horror every time a documentary or movie comes out about these men, now they have actual people walking around with tattoos of them on their body. What happen to human decency?
She looks exactly like the type of person to get a serial killer sleeve. You can feel the disconnect from reality and disregard for the victims and their families.
My mom was murdered in 2001 and it still hurts as much today as it did 22 years ago. I can't imagine how the victim's families feel knowing that the monster that killed their loved one is being glorified this way. 💬
Are these her only tattoos? That’s honestly the part that’s weirdest to me, it just shows how disturbing this is. She can claim “it’s not glorification!!” all she wants but she deliberately made a shrine of them on her leg lmfao. (💬 love your vids)
“It’s not glorification” lmao holy gaslighting just because you say that doesn’t make it true. Do people get tattoos of swastikas and hate symbols because they hate what they stand for? 🤦🏼♀️
Natural selection. I like psychology and crime documentaries as much as the next person but there's a huge difference between watching a documentary about these people, educating yourself on their crimes, and honoring these murderers by permanently putting them on your body. These aren't fake horror movie characters like michael myers or pennywise, they aren't icons or edgy tattoo ideas. These are real killers who took many unfortunate real people away from their loved ones and that is so disrespectful to the people who died by their hands. Personally, I think we as a society have gotten so distanced from reality and empathy that real deaths legitimately seem like entertainment to so many people now. These aren't serial killers these are like movie villains to these people and that makes me so sick. The pain and fear once brought by these killers is real, the many victims whose family's never got to see justice are real. The amount of people who are still hurt by these crimes to this day are real. So you should try to have some care for someone who isn't you, because the pain you might cause with these tattoos is real. Imagine losing your mother or child to some unhinged murderer with no remorse, and barely hanging on after that to the day after the 15 year anniversary of your loved ones death see someone with that murderers face tattooed on their leg. How would you feel? It might not be legally wrong but morals are still a thing.
It's one thing that she has people who have literally destroyed lives, assaulted, and tortured people on her body, but it's another thing that someone actually designed it for her and tattooed it.
When i was teenager going through my "edgy" phase i wanted a jeffrey Dahmer quote tattoo "eat garlic to avoid vampires, get a tattoo to avoid cannibals" id been watching and listening to true crime podcasts since i was 14 / 15 and found them really fascinating. As I have gotten older i still listen to true crime podcasts but i could never get tattoos of serial killers.
💬 The fact that she is studying a crime related major makes me feel weirder, cause what if she’s doing it for the wrong reasons? Like getting close to criminals o even getting s***al gratification 😰 very questionable people
I wonder if a family member or a loved one of hers was murdered by serial killer & some stranger got a huge tattoo of that serial killer. Would she be ok with it?
SO disrespectful to the victims and their families, literally disgusting and shame on anyone who would do anything like it to positively immortalise those people
Celle, you are very well-spoken and handled this topical conversation very well. I don't know if you script it out or just fly off the cuff, but it was engaging all throughout. I hope you tackle other tattoo moral dilemmas and etiquette.
Yep there is definitely some major ignorance going on by anyone who willingly gets a serial killer tattoo. I kind of feel bad for them but I also feel like once you get the tattoo it might feel too late to do anything about it so maybe she’s just embracing the ignorance to avoid the guilt?
i think the worst part of this all, is that she isnt just some random with these serial killer tattoos...shes someone wants to go into forensics/criminology! thats the worst person to have them
I would love to know who the artist was. I mean... they are repulsive, but technically and artistically very well done. It might be someone well known in the industry
I watch loads of true crime and horror films and I wouldn't dream of such tattoos. But then I wouldn't say I'm fascinated by serial killers. I'm interested in what happened and why, but I always feel for the loss of life and how devastating it is for the families.
I don't think these people have ever thought "what if that happened to my family member". Their victims were taken from this world in the most disgusting ways imaginable... what if that was your family member
The tattoo makes me uncomfortable. However, I think casting Zac Efron in the dramatisation was clever: one of the reasons Bundy got away with murder for so long is because he was considered an attractive, normal-looking man, and he was genuinely a kind partner and father, according to the poor woman he duped into being with him. I think it's important to help understand the victims, to see that this guy came across as very safe and normal, often appearing as a man with a cast asking for help, which is why they trusted him.
You’re right- it’s like the Disney thing villains are ugly odd and good people are pretty princesses / beautiful attractive. It’s an unconscious bias a lot of people still have. Just like bad things only happen to bad people ( they don’t want to face that bad things can happen to them/ someone like them)
Firstly, this is creep as hell. Secondly, I clicked onto this video specifically because I’m planning on getting a leg sleeve myself…of some of my favourite books. It took me a while to come to this decision and I wish she could have thought the leg sleeve through.
💬 I didn't think I would have learned new vocab words (eg: Hybristophobia) from tattoo content! I see the effort in the research you put in your videos, Celle! 🙌🙌
"The way I have designed the sleeve is to deter glorification for artistic expression...." I mean call me denser than a bucket of lead but this sentence dont make any sense to me whatsoever given the context. She literally put artistic depictions of them on her body on a fairly visible place too, ergo I would argue this qualify as an artistic expression. Is the fact that shes wearing them as an artistic expression supposed to work as some kind of deterrent? Or is there something about the design in particular thats supposed to be a deterrent? Besides the blatantly obvious fact that tattooing a face of a serial killer sounds like a pretty messed up idea to begin with so why do we need a deterrent in the first place? So many questions.... 🤔
I read an article that Australians with Ned Kelly tattoos are more likely to die by homicide or “self-kill.” Idk how true that is but I thought it was interesting and it kind of makes me think about this kind of stuff too.
If her hope is to study criminals, she's FOR SURE going to be denied job opportunities because of these tattoos. Incredibly disrespectful to victims and completely flippant about what these men have done. And considering she's designing a sleeve with the most well known serial killers (not that choosing lesser known ones would be okay), I get the impression she's doing this for clout. Really distasteful all around. These men were real, with real victims. They're not pulp fiction icons. If I were the artist, I would have turned her away. Morally bankrupt.
0:38 I’m literally in a debate with someone in the comments of another video right now talking about how frontal lobe damage can effect someone’s ability to feel remorse and fear. I paused the video to reply to their their comment, and when I came back I was absolutely flabbergasted at you saying her frontal lobe is fully intact
I have never seen anyone in real life with one of these tattoos. But I would love to glare at them for the time they choose to spend in my presence. That is so gross! I could never date or be friends with someone who choose to do that
I love how I tell my husband out loud… no google search’s or anything… I want a tattoo again soon BOOM your channel appears and I love it Ps thank you big brother
As someone pursing forensics, this is really gross to me. Being interested doesn’t justify tattooing that shit on your body. It’s her body, she can do what she wants but don’t be upset when people think you’re a fucking weirdo.
I read the title and for some reason my mind thought she had a tattoo of serial killers in movies. So I clicked to wonder what the issue was, since many fans do this. I quickly realised the issue by reading the first few comments.
being from Argentina I don't really understand how ''sorority system'' works, I've only seen it in movies, but never understood why they exist, and how they work.
In an ideal world, a sorority/fraternity is a group you join to have a sense of community and family while in college. You would aid in school functions, clubs, and the off campus community as well such as fundraisers and charity. However, normally they are just awful cliques you pay to join. After graduation you just post it everywhere so others know you are "one of them" so you can benefit from being one of the cool kids.
Now riddle me this, How would you feel if you lost a relative, sister, brother, parent, daughter, best friend, partner in such a horrific way. To then see someone putting the face of the person who caused all that pain, on their body. Idc what she has to say, to most people putting a portrait on your body FOREVER, is a way of honoring them. Now, of all people you could put on your body FOREVER. Why make that serial killers, who mind you, also r'ed a lot of their victims. You can be interested in why someone turned out to be that burnt in the head in maaaany other better ways than this. Like doing actual prevention work. Advocating to get help before it is too late. A lot of this sh*t is preventable. This isn't preventing it. Edit: Not to mention some people survived these people. Correct me if I'm wrong but to me seeing something like this would be the absolute nightmare when you survived something that horrific. I mean some women with Hybristophilia have literally come to these trials just to mess with the survivors for fun.
whats crazier is that she looks like a christian housewife or something MOST PEOPLE would probably expect something like this from some sort of " alt community" but i know for a fact the goths and the beautiful dark baddies have WAYYYY more tasteful artistic ideas for their forever ink and COMMON SENSE.if these were fictional characters it would probably be fine! like people get folklore tats all the time! or horror movie icons is fine because its a FAKE concept/monster! :(
Ok this is gross and not okay but how does she expect to get the face of a man who's never been identified tattooed on her body (the man being Jack the ripper)
i think that’s still inappropriate tbh, just let victims rest and don’t get strangers faces tattooed on you, especially when you only know who they are because they were murdered, they didn’t ask for that fame
Im curious if she was like a spychopath herself, or was she like a fairly normal person who did have empathy and morals, and still had some morbid fascination. People can be complex and contradicting. But outright absolutely obsessed with something that involves serious crime or cruelty otherwise seem like a bad warning sign
I am also very interested in serial killer not because of what they did but because of the psychology behind what they did.. what she did is glorification of these weirdos, I would NEVER get them tatted on me. She’s sick, whether she wants to admit it or not
We love your videos and watch for your opinion on things. Don't worry about going easy on the artists or canvases. Call them out for bad line work or whatever.
💬 I always love your videos and I am so glad that you did a video on this. I am interested in the psychology of criminals and absorb true crime on a regular basis but would NEVER get a serial killer tattoo or anything related to a crime that has actually occurred. Its all about respect for the victims.
💬 I am not surprise, despite all the horribles crimes this peoples does, there are a lot of peoples who are obsessed with serial killer so that's not surprising to me, one day I remember seeing a guy with a tattoo of a "certain mustache guy from Germany" if you know what I mean 😅. I also suppose this girl want attention at any cost and she choose tattooing portrait of serial killer and that's kinda work I guess, you made a video about her 😅😂 In the end that's her body and her choice. Thanks for the video Celle, greetings from Belgium.
Celle, I have gotten completely entranced in your videos. The way you stay neutral, but also are not afraid to share your opinion, it's amazing! I've been binge watching all of them, and they are all so good. You are going to and are great at everything, and you will be a great tattoo artist when you get there ❤️❤️❤️
1. Hi Celle, i missed your videos. I'm glad you came back to post more videos. 2. This is a super controversial subject. I would never tattoo something like. And I have pros and cons. 3. (PROS) In psychology, or science, we have to be unmoral (differs from moral or amoral), and DON'T judge wrong a new discovery. (Ex: When biologists discovered that there are heterotroph plants). If exists, you study that to understand how that exist. If a scientist like plants, he can tattoo them on his body. Why not tattoo people with some kind of psyche? About the chance of meeting family of the victim somewhere. 4. (PROS)There is people victim from a lot of other things that could be tattooed on someone. Like dogs, car, horse, guns, flags from a country that do terrorism attacks on others countries, etc. I'm sure there is way more chance of some of these tattoos triggering PTSD on someone, than this girl meeting one of the victim's family members. 5. (CONS) Tattooing serial killer is so wrong as tattooing pedophiles. But I don't think it is fair to control that kind of tattoo. The only one I don't judge is the tattoo artist. If he doesn't do it, someone will. But i would like to hear some of your friends that are tattoo artist. What they say about it? Would you interview them?
As someone who has studied biology, specifically plants, I agree with you on how she might see them as objective case studies. The scientific process of testing hypotheses amoral, BUT the application of science is not. Serial killers are impossible to take out of a social context because psychology, social, and forensic sciences have an effect on real people. It is difficult to make an aesthetic representation of the psychology of serial killers without directly using their quotes or faces--I don't know that there is a subtle, respectful ways of doing it and maybe it shouldn't be done. It's the difference between getting a tattoo of a parasitic plant or an eagle attacking and eating a mouse (it's natural and happens all the time. The eagle has no social obligation to the mouse. A parasitic plant has evolved to live off of other plants and that's just how it is) and getting a tattoo of a specific person who did something horrific to their own species that they naturally have a social responsibility to protect (it is unnatural and traumatic to actual individuals). It's not just the victims' families of the killers in her tattoo who are affected, but anyone who she interacts with who could have known someone who was killed by any serial killer. Which is quite likely if she is studying forensics and goes into a field working on similar cases. I don't know what to think about the artist. Maybe it's worse if they're an artist who specializes in serial killer tattoos and routinely profits off of them... Apologies for the ramble and I hope that makes sense!
I dated a guy with a portrait of a serial killer on him, he also had a set of blue balls with flys around it. But it was the serial killer that worried me. 😂
Theproserpina (she was a popular influencer in the alt/tattoo community for a good few years but has fallen off) she has her ARMS covered in serial killer portraits (even Albert fish 🤢 yes, the child rapist and murderer)
I think these people have completely forgotten the difference between fiction and reality. It's so incredibly disrespectful to the victims and their families.
It's no different to Netflix making endless shows about serial killers
@@D_A86 that's a completely different thing. netflix shows are no less made for our entertainment. getting a tattoo of a serial killer unmistakably serves as a commemoration and gives off the wrong idea
@@mistaUHOH215 Oh OK, so it alright to make endless show on any or all serial killers, murders, criminals ect. But when someone wants to show their interest in the subject in the form of a tattoo it's suddenly bad. Your logic makes no sense.
@@mistaUHOH215 bro that isn’t different. It glorifies them.
@@D_A86 TV shows and films are a grey area in this regard. Usually they are more than an hour of runtime, so you get the opportunity to contextualize, explain, develop the topic, and you can also choose to respect the victims and their families by centering them, instead of the killers. Of course a lot of shows and films also glorify the killers, so it's a spectrum. But there is NO WAY for a serial killer tattoo to do all that. By the very act of marking your skin with a serial killer's face, you are giving THEM the spotlight, with no context.
I don’t see how she’s going to be taken seriously as a forensic psychologist with these tattoos
I don’t know if you’d be hired if they discovered you have these tattoos.
She’s not…. She would be a risk especially if she were to actually talk with murderers,she’d probably fall in love and excuse their crimes 🤦🏻♀️
I had the same thought.
She is giving Harley Quinn vibes. We read the comics or watched the shows. We know to avoid it.
I definitely think she's going to be looked at in a certain kind of way and she probably needs to prepare herself for that.😅
Getting a tattoo of a serial killer is the same as getting a tattoo of hitler, Stalin or Saddam. It’s not bAd aSs or qUirKy, it’s borderline psychotic.
I agree
this.
I find it interesting that she totally wouldn’t get a tattoo of any of those people, but is perfectly okay with the younger, charismatic, conventionally attractive yet emotionally damaged “bad boy” serial killers that have a reputation for being attractive to women like her. Thus proving it’s absolutely a sexual thing and not for “art” like she claims
or Obama
@@cyberbeat11 he technically did fund bombing of people in the middle east and that is absolutely horrible, but this very much isn't on the level of *Holocaust* .
Not excusing Obamas contribution to American imperialism but just pointing that difference out.
if i met someone with serial killer tattoos I would literally be scared that they themselves have psychotic and violent tendencies, cause who tf thinks this is ok? she can deny it all she wants, but you don't get someone's portrait tattooed on you if you don't admire them at least a little.
It isnt about admiring them. For me its about their criminology and psychological minds that are extremely interesting. Do you think someone whostudies serial killers as a career is a killer to?????
@@jasperatymrochwite7275 the tattooing of a portrait is about admiration tho, would you tattoo a portrait of someone you hate/despise? No. Studying them can be for you to understand them and doesn't require liking them
@@jasperatymrochwite7275 there are awful people everywhere. I remember a few years ago there was a case in my country where a psychology student killed his colleague because she didn't like him back 😬
Just so you know, people with psychotic disorders are far more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators. The only thing truly increasing the likelihood of them being violent is whether they also have a substance use disorder or ASPD. These killers were all declared legally sane. Having psychosis does not make you morally wrong or a bad person. Please stop adding to the stigma, people with psychotic disorders are abused enough as is, especially within the mental health system.
@@jasperatymrochwite7275 do they typically get them tattooed on their bodies? No
She’s 150% condoning their crimes. She “designed” her sleeve trying to make them cool. It’s the absolute most disgusting way to spit in every single one of those victims faces. I hope this really makes it hard for her to get a job in psychology. Because this shows how sick she is too. This makes me so angry
Do you "have a job in psychology"? If I highly doubt it. If this makes you angry, you are in need of a psychiatrist before you start mass murdering people you don't agree with.
Does she even think about, being a female, some of the ones she has. The horrible crimes done to females
Im glad she got this done. Now everyone knows and her future victims can avoid her
I don’t think she’s a killer herself, just an idiot.
It’s actually not a good choice for her desired career either. Tattoos are becoming more acceptable but forensic related jobs will deny you employment if you seem too obsessed/fascinated with gore and serial killers.
@@lizzjohnston6960 exactly!
@@lizzjohnston6960100%, and I feel like a lot of other jobs would turn her down
It’s kind of like having a tattoo of hitler or something
"If you can't beat them eat them" would be funny with Hannibal Lecter, but it's tasteless with a real cannibal. We like fictional villains because they and their victims aren't real, there's a huge difference to actual murderers. Like, I enjoyed the narrative about the chain of abuse in She-Ra, but that doesn't mean I'd take a tattoo of my mother.
This is EXACTLY the point that needs to be made
Tasteless cannibal haha
Id argue its almost the same thing since a character like hannibal represents the same thing, he still murdered, which is nothing to be glorified, fake or not
Ayo that's funny because I'm currently getting a horror/supernatural/paranormnal them leg sleeve and I fully plan on getting something related to the Hannibal movies added into it
@@SaccharineHearts It's a movie you dolt
Imagine how the victims families feel seeing these tattoos :(
I'm not related to the families. I empathize with them because of an experience I had. How she thought this was okay is beyond me.
Disgusted probably
I’m not related to any of the victims and I’m disgusted and low key enraged.
I’ll say one positive for the families and other people though - that is one of the quickest ways you turn yourself into a permanent walking red flag, so other people know you’re awful and keep the hell away from you. Tattoos say a lot about a person, and kind of like a swastika tattoo or something super offensive, people will notice and they won’t wanna be around it. Great way to advertise yourself to the world so they know why they shouldn’t bother with getting to know you
Exactly what I was thinking too.
Bro its the quotes that got me. And the fact that she's studying the forensic psychology. I had a phase myself where I was super obsessed with serial killers but I got to the bottom of the rabbit hole and realized. There really challenged humans. Like Ted Bundy was suave and a good talker sure but he couldn't read properly above a 9th grade level or do like any algebra. People like to think these monsters are like super smart and incredibly intelligent but they're not. There at best getting lucky and killing people no one would notice. Ed Kemper could barely interact with people in day to life until he started killing people. Its the only way he had confidence was when he felt he could physically threaten somebody. Gacy had a crippling addiction to CP specifically young boys and that's what drove him to killing them. These are not super intelligent, above humanity, ultra prime creatures, the media makes them out to be. Latest studies on Jack the ripper points to him being a scorned lover of one of the last victims and was killing prostitutes' to psych himself up for killing the final one. People like to believe there's something else to the people who kill, like there's some intangible about them that makes them better. There isn't there just cooked in the head and needed help before they committed their crimes.
I totally agree. People fetishize these killers, but really, they are damaged, despicable bottom feeders who prey on the weak…and then get caught. Even Dennis Radar was so stupid he sent his contact info to the police. Israel Keyes seemed like a worst kind of monster…but it was still a stupid mistake that got him caught. Golden State killer was (unfortunately) probably one of scariest because if it hadn’t been for a Hail Mary DNA match, he would have died of old age and we never would’ve known. The scariest ones are the ones we don’t know about. The faceless ones. She shoulda left her leg terrifyingly blank!;)
literally no one is going to take her seriously because of these tattoos, coming from someone who is also studying psych
Couldn't have put it better myself
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 everything you said is on point!!!! There’s no way to excuse her behaviour and ESPECIALLY not theirs!
Well said!
I guarantee when she finishes her degree, they'll background check her and see just how unfit she would be to work with criminals and forensics
There’s a jubilee video matching crime to a person. A woman working with criminals did terribly, and showed her stupidity and bias there, yet she’s been working in legal scene for decades! So there’s not that much guarantee
@@malus7452 not remotely comparable. instead get a lineup of forensic psychs, then get a lawyer to pick who they'd hire and a victim to pick who they'd trust. it's so bad prosecution AND defense would both immediately say "anyone but her"
Yeah, you could judge if she's right for the job.
@@lolawolekaand another genius.
@@Leo_Pard_A4 i do what this girl wants to do for a living, and have also worked as a consultant in hiring experts (and jury selection). so yes, i can judge if someone is appropriate for the job bc i'm literally paid to do that.
experts can be disqualified for unpaid parking tickets - you don't get to call yourself an expert and hand in your work, you have to meet certain standards. you get thoroughly examined by all parties to determine if you're credible. whatever intern discovers her tattoos would be king for a day bc those would be brought up immediately (and gleefully).
nobody forced her to give interviews using her full name or post photos that showed her face. if she isn't bright enough to realize those choices have consequences, it casts douibt on the usefulness and reliability of her judgment as a whole. she showed a total lack of maturity, judgment, empathy, remorse, and honesty. i wouldn't even hire her to answer the phones
As someone who has lives in the area where a famous serial killer grew up, and has met many people who used to know him and even distant family members of his, that stuff isn't taken lightly here. Even one of my highschool teachers was almost picked up by him and had trauma from that. Also people that knew him before he was killing said he was literally always creepy. I hate that I always see him depicted as handsome and charismatic when he was just an awful person that ruined countless lives. The people who knew him don't brag about it, don't talk about it for clout, they are deeply disturbed by him as everyone should be.
who was he?
@@agust8397 I'm going to guess and say Ivan Milat. Could be wrong though.
My mom was homeless when she was 16/17 and she swears on her life that she was nearly tricker and preyed upon by Ted Bundy. I 100% believe her and it still haunts her to this day.
It was Bundy, many women have luckily decided not to enter his car, no blame on those who did tho
my aunt was almost picked up by ted bundy
"Frontal lobe, fully developed" LMAO!
She actually has 4yrs to go if she is 21yrs old, maybe that is her malfunction, other than being an attention whore?
Hahahaha I just found this video now and left the same comment, not realizing this video is 6mo old. I'm so happy someone else commented on that diss 😂❤
i laughed until i realized the brain in dahmer's hands 90% likely not old enough to be fully developed. like damn...girl is 29, his 2 youngest victims ADDED TOGETHER are younger than her. youtube, a rollercoaster of emotion
That got me as well!
I feel like this woman is living under the assumption she'll never interact with the victims' families. And sure, maybe it's less likely for high profile victims. But the families of victims of serial killers are everywhere. Someone in my family was a victim of a serial killer (her case hasn't been solved and I didn't know her but this stuff makes me furious). Especially since she's going into a field where she may be interacting with victims' families and possibly with the bodies of victims themselves through her work, and knowing she's the kind of person who would go to serial killer conferences where victims' families frequently go for recognition to their case, even if she doesn't meet the family of one of Jeffrey Dahmer's victims, she will be meeting other victims' families. I can't imagine they'd be too happy to look down and see her leg painted with the faces of people who took children away from their families in the same way their children were taken. Especially when Jeffrey Dahmer is so widely understood as an example of white supremacy causing cases to go unsolved and the fetishization of Black and Brown people.
I very much doubt anyone would employ her in that field.
@@Smithpolly I *hope* no one from that field employs her, she severly screwed up in the head for doing that
Let's not forget also a literal p*dophile
I’m glad you led with her age. I’d expect this from a 20 year old possibly, but 29? She’s way beyond knowing better. How could you think this is cool in any way?
Im 39 and about to get something like this, this wouldn't be a problem if I got a sleeve full of movie monsters Jason, Freddy, Mycheal Myers, but then someone wants to get a tattoo of the real life ones and it is a problem. Like it or not serial killers are a big part of American Culture, Culture in general. If they weren't then people would not write movies and books, some people base there whole Carrers around serial killers. People in the comments are harsh as F**K on this girl she gets these things tatted on her skin cause its what she is into and that is why people get tattoo's in the first place that does not mean you should look down on her for getting these tattoo's.
Clearly she has never been scared or put in any sort of situation in life where she has felt fear and could empathize with any human
This right here. What a privilege it must be to be this detached from the real fear and pain of a traumatic incident
She is the type of girl who watch you why you sleep
I really feel like the people who are THIS obsessed with serial killers and "just find it so fascinating!" actually idolize them and in at least some cases would love to do something similar themself if they weren't afraid of getting caught.
That's why laws exist. Caligula gave his own cousin a blood eagle for talking shit. I'd say if the purge was in effect 60% of people would go on a homicidal rampage
it goes far beyond " raising a sense of awarness" but this is sick ass shit. why didnt she just collect books on these people and leave it at that? this is baffling. id just completely black out my leg with black ink if i was her......
I think you're right in that I believe they do idolize these people as individuals to look up to you and yeah they need to think of the families and how the victim felt in the moment.
There was a woman in east Asia - I believe South Korea or Japan? - Who did this just a couple of weeks ago. Killed a woman she met online posing as a 14 year old to “see what murder felt like” because of her true crime obsession
God help the men wh date her 😳🫣🥶
I’ve met a handful of dudes while working as a counselor in a correctional facilities who have full sleeves with portraits of serial killers. What’s ironic is it’s never the guys who have violent charges. It’s always the dudes who burglarized houses or cut off catalytic converters to support a dope habit.
The truly violent among them aren’t into any of this crap because they live it. No need to glorify someone else’s violence when you’ve got a rack of domestic violence charges or are serving time for felony murder. I’ve actually seen guys with this odd serial killer kink get called out by other men for being a sick bastard. The one thing that absolutely doesn’t fly in any type of correctional facility are crimes against women & children. Someone like Ted Bundy would be considered disgusting by the overwhelming majority of the prison population. All of these men had mothers and many have wives & children. This is also why Dahmer was killed. It was a power move by the man who did it, but he picked the sickest, most notorious guy not just for notoriety, but because he was despised.
A woman with this shit on her body is a walking red flag, I’m sorry. Women are killed every day, especially marginalized groups of them (POCs, queer women, trans women, sex workers) who are killed at a disproportionate rate.
Lets not forget that Dahmer targeted black young boys from low income families and part of the reason he managed to kill as much as he did was because of the massive incompetence and institutional racism of the police. She, a white woman, getting him tatted is so disgusting I cant even verbalize it.
I agree, the tattoo artist is just as disrespectful as the customer. I get that this is how they make a living, but being a decent human being is priceless.
Lol tell that to your landlord next time you got rent due… well, I’m a decent person…. 😂
@@SuperlativeAlliance you must feel so clever 🙃🤦🏽♀️
@@KaleilehuaKaeo-Okimoto he made a valid real world point. You’re just having your period
@@SuperlativeAlliance Dude wtf.
@@SuperlativeAlliance would you say the same if the tattoo artist was asked to tattoo child p***?
The fact that she herself made the comparison to fictional killers says it all, these shows and content are causing people to see real killers as characters. They are divorced from reality, I can’t imagine how the families feel and I know that multiple families have come out and spoken against these glamorising depictions. It’s all fine and well too for Zach effron to say he was being respectful but the show existing in the first place is disrespectful. Documentaries are educational at least, what do we gain from an actor who is an established heartthrob doing that, nothing of value. If you want to have that interest that’s fine but blasting it all over your leg and going out and showing it to everyone is shitty, it’s an incredibly triggering subject matter and people just trying to live their life shouldn’t be forced to look at that. It just shows a clear lack of empathy for victims and a disregard for anyone who has to look at that.
"what do we gain from an actor who is an established heartthrob doing that," - that's a very good point!
True crime is entertainment point blank period. People like to pretend it's educational or they watch to deepen their knowledge of psychology but that's just something they say to make themselves feel better about the fact they enjoy hearing these twisted dark stories. It's so alien to the average person that it might as well be fiction. You only have to look at how huge the genre is on UA-cam, it's just a hobby now for a lot of people, no more deep or meaningful than watching football or a cartoon but noone likes to admit it
@@buuurrrrppppp221 I think some do take it as lighthearted as football or a cartoon, but I feel like true crime videos are as much entertainment as any other documentary or informative/story video is. Whether it's nature, war, biographical, etc. They're true events that have happened in the past and that tends to be interesting to people, especially when they make you aware of the true intentions of too many people in the world. The online culture around true crime is pretty disturbing though, mostly made up of people who don't seem to understand the events aren't a work of fiction. Like the lady in the video, or people online who see true crime in the same way they see a show series like Stranger Things.
@@candyandacurrantbun I agree with you and maybe went a little over the top with my first comment. I had in mind some of the content creators on here and recent Netflix biopics rather than actual documents
Is this kinda the plot to the movie "Natural Born Killers"?
5:30 “Now riddle me that?” Lol there’s nothing to riddle. Being a fan of the horror genre, or true crime for that matter, IS NOT the same as permanently tattooing real murderer’s faces onto your body. She gives off major ‘falling in love and marrying your convicted, serial killer pen pal’ vibes.
The "riddle me that" comment sounded a lot like "I'm a fucking idiot" to me lol
@@JJG791using a famous line from a comic book villain in relation to real-world killers with real victims.
Britnee 'looks so normal, she looks like an average sorority girl'. That's exactly what they say about the serial killers. 'He seemed so normal, we were friends, I never would have guessed.' It's part of how they get away with it
That had me wondering, how is she supposed to look? People will sometimes say about someone that they "look like a serial killer" or something similar if they're disheveled, have a dark look on their face, behave suspiciously, etc. but I can't think of an equivalent for people obsessed with serial killers besides maybe "emo aesthetic teenage girl"?
as a criminal justice major, the fact she put these people on her body is shocking, disturbing, and flat out wrong. going into the field we want to help people and stop things from happening. her obsession with the topic absolutely is disturbing. i would NEVER tattoo any serious offender on my body. never. imagine being a family victim of a murderer/serial killer and this lady stood up to testify as an expert. i would be enraged.
“She doesn’t condone or glorify..”
Still, without the acts from these horrible men, she wouldn’t have their portraits on her skin.
It's literal glorification. She is nuts.
The guy with a ton of different Miley Cyrus tattoos isn't looking so bad now 💬
as somebody who is also in school right now for forensic psychology and is also fascinated by the psychology of serial killers and whatnot, this is absolutely bonkers to me and i could not imagine getting any killer tattooed on me. she is absolutely glorifying them and their acts and holds them on a pedestal (which is also a condition called Hybristophilia). this is highly disturbing and i hope she gets the professional help she needs
I didn't know there was a name for that as a condition. But makes sense. People with that disorder are probably the same types that would send the killers naked pictures and letters if they were still alive.
She mentions the disorder in her video
My mom's step sister was killed by the Green River killer. Could only imagine what would go through my mom's head if she saw somebody with a Ridgeway tattoo. Yikes.
5:19 She answered her own question. It is because they're not real 🤦🏻♀️ The monsters on her body tortured, abused, and took advantage of actual people, like you and me. People with goals and aspirations. People with dreams and emotions. People that feel happiness, sadness, and fear. Those people must've been terrified in their final moments, as they begged for their lives and thought about their families and how they'd never see them again. The actions of those monsters had real world consequences. Their victims had friends and families. They left many hearts broken, as their parents were probably wondering when they'd come home, then their fear and anxiety started growing the more time that had passed and they got the feeling that something was terribly wrong. Their whole world came crashing down as they learned that their loved one, the joy and light in their life, was taken away from them all because some sicko wanted to satisfy their twisted desires. The friends and family members of the victims still haven't healed. Yes, time makes it easier, but they still miss their loved ones and wish they were still here. I hate people like this, idk what is wrong with their heads. If they lack empathy or are just immature or stupid. I would never want any of those monsters on my body.
Very well said
BTW, as someone who tried becoming a psychologist and was in therapy for years: therapists and psychogists train many of their clients to be more understanding and have more empathy. Lots of the groundwork is about relearning empathy. Because it's a skill and I feel like she should try that herself before trying to be a psychologist
Great job on this video. I completely agree. Not only do the families have to relive the horror every time a documentary or movie comes out about these men, now they have actual people walking around with tattoos of them on their body. What happen to human decency?
She needs to be on a watchlist. Straight up red flags
red flags for...? Do you mean potential partners?
She looks exactly like the type of person to get a serial killer sleeve. You can feel the disconnect from reality and disregard for the victims and their families.
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Imagine being one of the victims or the loved one of a victim seeing their killer's/ assailant's face tattooed on someone's body. Disgusting.
no way in hell she’s getting a forensics job if they see pictures of those tattoos
My mom was murdered in 2001 and it still hurts as much today as it did 22 years ago. I can't imagine how the victim's families feel knowing that the monster that killed their loved one is being glorified this way. 💬
Are these her only tattoos? That’s honestly the part that’s weirdest to me, it just shows how disturbing this is. She can claim “it’s not glorification!!” all she wants but she deliberately made a shrine of them on her leg lmfao. (💬 love your vids)
“It’s not glorification” lmao holy gaslighting just because you say that doesn’t make it true. Do people get tattoos of swastikas and hate symbols because they hate what they stand for? 🤦🏼♀️
No she has a half sleeve on her left arm as well with 'regular' things.
Natural selection. I like psychology and crime documentaries as much as the next person but there's a huge difference between watching a documentary about these people, educating yourself on their crimes, and honoring these murderers by permanently putting them on your body. These aren't fake horror movie characters like michael myers or pennywise, they aren't icons or edgy tattoo ideas. These are real killers who took many unfortunate real people away from their loved ones and that is so disrespectful to the people who died by their hands. Personally, I think we as a society have gotten so distanced from reality and empathy that real deaths legitimately seem like entertainment to so many people now. These aren't serial killers these are like movie villains to these people and that makes me so sick. The pain and fear once brought by these killers is real, the many victims whose family's never got to see justice are real. The amount of people who are still hurt by these crimes to this day are real. So you should try to have some care for someone who isn't you, because the pain you might cause with these tattoos is real. Imagine losing your mother or child to some unhinged murderer with no remorse, and barely hanging on after that to the day after the 15 year anniversary of your loved ones death see someone with that murderers face tattooed on their leg. How would you feel? It might not be legally wrong but morals are still a thing.
It's one thing that she has people who have literally destroyed lives, assaulted, and tortured people on her body, but it's another thing that someone actually designed it for her and tattooed it.
When i was teenager going through my "edgy" phase i wanted a jeffrey Dahmer quote tattoo "eat garlic to avoid vampires, get a tattoo to avoid cannibals" id been watching and listening to true crime podcasts since i was 14 / 15 and found them really fascinating. As I have gotten older i still listen to true crime podcasts but i could never get tattoos of serial killers.
💬 The fact that she is studying a crime related major makes me feel weirder, cause what if she’s doing it for the wrong reasons? Like getting close to criminals o even getting s***al gratification 😰 very questionable people
I wonder if a family member or a loved one of hers was murdered by serial killer & some stranger got a huge tattoo of that serial killer. Would she be ok with it?
Maybe.. bc at the end of the day who cares?? It's not their body they are a stranger. A NOBODY. So ya it may be disturbing but it's irrelevant.
@@cassandrahughes2897 What an amazingly heartless reply, have you considered touching flora and or talking to a therapist
Forensic scientist here. This is disgusting and reprehensible 😠
SO disrespectful to the victims and their families, literally disgusting and shame on anyone who would do anything like it to positively immortalise those people
Celle, you are very well-spoken and handled this topical conversation very well. I don't know if you script it out or just fly off the cuff, but it was engaging all throughout. I hope you tackle other tattoo moral dilemmas and etiquette.
Yep there is definitely some major ignorance going on by anyone who willingly gets a serial killer tattoo. I kind of feel bad for them but I also feel like once you get the tattoo it might feel too late to do anything about it so maybe she’s just embracing the ignorance to avoid the guilt?
Nah. I love my h.h. holmes tattoo.
@@jasperatymrochwite7275 I stand by my comment, and if you love your tattoo of a murderer and that doesn’t make you uncomfortable good for you.
i think the worst part of this all, is that she isnt just some random with these serial killer tattoos...shes someone wants to go into forensics/criminology! thats the worst person to have them
If she ever meets a guy who says "I like your tattoo" she should run ASAP.
I really love how you share your opinions plainly and open up discussions in a respectful way. I also completely agree.
i’m just shocked that she found an artist to do these
I would love to know who the artist was. I mean... they are repulsive, but technically and artistically very well done. It might be someone well known in the industry
I watch loads of true crime and horror films and I wouldn't dream of such tattoos. But then I wouldn't say I'm fascinated by serial killers. I'm interested in what happened and why, but I always feel for the loss of life and how devastating it is for the families.
I don't think these people have ever thought "what if that happened to my family member". Their victims were taken from this world in the most disgusting ways imaginable... what if that was your family member
The tattoo makes me uncomfortable. However, I think casting Zac Efron in the dramatisation was clever: one of the reasons Bundy got away with murder for so long is because he was considered an attractive, normal-looking man, and he was genuinely a kind partner and father, according to the poor woman he duped into being with him. I think it's important to help understand the victims, to see that this guy came across as very safe and normal, often appearing as a man with a cast asking for help, which is why they trusted him.
You’re right- it’s like the Disney thing villains are ugly odd and good people are pretty princesses / beautiful attractive. It’s an unconscious bias a lot of people still have. Just like bad things only happen to bad people ( they don’t want to face that bad things can happen to them/ someone like them)
She’s got Harley Quinn vibes written all over her. The tattoo is almost like an open invitation to these psychos
Feeling much better about my dedications to hello kitty’s cat and the members of 80s band, ready for the world
Firstly, this is creep as hell. Secondly, I clicked onto this video specifically because I’m planning on getting a leg sleeve myself…of some of my favourite books. It took me a while to come to this decision and I wish she could have thought the leg sleeve through.
Looks like the tattoos have been removed from the artists instagram.
💬 I didn't think I would have learned new vocab words (eg: Hybristophobia) from tattoo content! I see the effort in the research you put in your videos, Celle! 🙌🙌
"The way I have designed the sleeve is to deter glorification for artistic expression...." I mean call me denser than a bucket of lead but this sentence dont make any sense to me whatsoever given the context. She literally put artistic depictions of them on her body on a fairly visible place too, ergo I would argue this qualify as an artistic expression. Is the fact that shes wearing them as an artistic expression supposed to work as some kind of deterrent? Or is there something about the design in particular thats supposed to be a deterrent? Besides the blatantly obvious fact that tattooing a face of a serial killer sounds like a pretty messed up idea to begin with so why do we need a deterrent in the first place? So many questions.... 🤔
Ted: hey Jeff what do you normally do after you finish your vegetables?
Jeff: I usualy just throw the wheelchairs away.
Ted: lol
I am 35 and I have been into true crime for 20+ years. I am also very interested in serial killers. NO WAY I would get a tattoo of one....
I was jus bout to say even the dog is like ion wanna be affiliated with this foolishness 🤣
they should be required to meet the families of the victims before they book their appointment
I read an article that Australians with Ned Kelly tattoos are more likely to die by homicide or “self-kill.” Idk how true that is but I thought it was interesting and it kind of makes me think about this kind of stuff too.
If her hope is to study criminals, she's FOR SURE going to be denied job opportunities because of these tattoos. Incredibly disrespectful to victims and completely flippant about what these men have done. And considering she's designing a sleeve with the most well known serial killers (not that choosing lesser known ones would be okay), I get the impression she's doing this for clout. Really distasteful all around. These men were real, with real victims. They're not pulp fiction icons. If I were the artist, I would have turned her away. Morally bankrupt.
I'm even more shocked someone agreed to tattoo that on her,money is a hell of a drug.
That shat was expenisve.
fast forward to 2 years from now when she is documenting her tattoo removal journey sponsered by removery💭
0:38 I’m literally in a debate with someone in the comments of another video right now talking about how frontal lobe damage can effect someone’s ability to feel remorse and fear. I paused the video to reply to their their comment, and when I came back I was absolutely flabbergasted at you saying her frontal lobe is fully intact
I have never seen anyone in real life with one of these tattoos. But I would love to glare at them for the time they choose to spend in my presence. That is so gross! I could never date or be friends with someone who choose to do that
I love how I tell my husband out loud… no google search’s or anything… I want a tattoo again soon BOOM your channel appears and I love it
Ps thank you big brother
Britnee may have fully developed frontal lobe, but it's also fulla rocks....
Frontal lobe fully developed. 😂. I’m stealing that.
As someone pursing forensics, this is really gross to me. Being interested doesn’t justify tattooing that shit on your body. It’s her body, she can do what she wants but don’t be upset when people think you’re a fucking weirdo.
I read the title and for some reason my mind thought she had a tattoo of serial killers in movies. So I clicked to wonder what the issue was, since many fans do this. I quickly realised the issue by reading the first few comments.
"Frontal lobe fully developed" AHAHA 10/10
being from Argentina I don't really understand how ''sorority system'' works, I've only seen it in movies, but never understood why they exist, and how they work.
In an ideal world, a sorority/fraternity is a group you join to have a sense of community and family while in college. You would aid in school functions, clubs, and the off campus community as well such as fundraisers and charity. However, normally they are just awful cliques you pay to join. After graduation you just post it everywhere so others know you are "one of them" so you can benefit from being one of the cool kids.
Now riddle me this,
How would you feel if you lost a relative, sister, brother, parent, daughter, best friend, partner in such a horrific way. To then see someone putting the face of the person who caused all that pain, on their body. Idc what she has to say, to most people putting a portrait on your body FOREVER, is a way of honoring them. Now, of all people you could put on your body FOREVER. Why make that serial killers, who mind you, also r'ed a lot of their victims. You can be interested in why someone turned out to be that burnt in the head in maaaany other better ways than this. Like doing actual prevention work. Advocating to get help before it is too late. A lot of this sh*t is preventable. This isn't preventing it.
Edit: Not to mention some people survived these people. Correct me if I'm wrong but to me seeing something like this would be the absolute nightmare when you survived something that horrific. I mean some women with Hybristophilia have literally come to these trials just to mess with the survivors for fun.
it’s bad enough that she got that tattoo, but it’s even worse that someone was willing to do that tattoo in the first place :|
whats crazier is that she looks like a christian housewife or something
MOST PEOPLE would probably expect something like this from some sort of " alt community" but i know for a fact the goths and the beautiful dark baddies have WAYYYY more tasteful artistic ideas for their forever ink and COMMON SENSE.if these were fictional characters it would probably be fine! like people get folklore tats all the time! or horror movie icons is fine because its a FAKE concept/monster! :(
💬 don’t have anything to add except i love your videos, no matter the subject they’re always so calming to watch
Ok this is gross and not okay but how does she expect to get the face of a man who's never been identified tattooed on her body (the man being Jack the ripper)
Okay, the hell sorority earned my sub lol. Great videos- thank you!
She should get portraits of the victims.
Go cry about it
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i think that’s still inappropriate tbh, just let victims rest and don’t get strangers faces tattooed on you, especially when you only know who they are because they were murdered, they didn’t ask for that fame
My wife (rip) was obsessed with killers, she had a dozen serial killer books (basically all of them) ,, she even wrote letters to killers in jail.
Im curious if she was like a spychopath herself, or was she like a fairly normal person who did have empathy and morals, and still had some morbid fascination. People can be complex and contradicting. But outright absolutely obsessed with something that involves serious crime or cruelty otherwise seem like a bad warning sign
I am also very interested in serial killer not because of what they did but because of the psychology behind what they did.. what she did is glorification of these weirdos, I would NEVER get them tatted on me. She’s sick, whether she wants to admit it or not
We love your videos and watch for your opinion on things. Don't worry about going easy on the artists or canvases. Call them out for bad line work or whatever.
we need to stop giving serial killers attention in general 💬
Where did you get your earrings from their amazing!
💬 I always love your videos and I am so glad that you did a video on this. I am interested in the psychology of criminals and absorb true crime
on a regular basis but would NEVER get a serial killer tattoo or anything related to a crime that has actually occurred. Its all about respect for the victims.
"The dog knows" ahaha i'm in stitches
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I am not surprise, despite all the horribles crimes this peoples does, there are a lot of peoples who are obsessed with serial killer so that's not surprising to me, one day I remember seeing a guy with a tattoo of a "certain mustache guy from Germany" if you know what I mean 😅.
I also suppose this girl want attention at any cost and she choose tattooing portrait of serial killer and that's kinda work I guess, you made a video about her 😅😂
In the end that's her body and her choice.
Thanks for the video Celle, greetings from Belgium.
“Frontal lobe, fully developed” LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
Celle, I have gotten completely entranced in your videos. The way you stay neutral, but also are not afraid to share your opinion, it's amazing! I've been binge watching all of them, and they are all so good. You are going to and are great at everything, and you will be a great tattoo artist when you get there ❤️❤️❤️
This is one of the funniest stories to me. You describe this craziness perfectly.
Girl is gonna be the real life Harley Quinn.
Harley Quinn would never
"Frontal lobe fully developed" I SCREAMED !!!
1. Hi Celle, i missed your videos. I'm glad you came back to post more videos.
2. This is a super controversial subject. I would never tattoo something like. And I have pros and cons.
3. (PROS) In psychology, or science, we have to be unmoral (differs from moral or amoral), and DON'T judge wrong a new discovery. (Ex: When biologists discovered that there are heterotroph plants). If exists, you study that to understand how that exist. If a scientist like plants, he can tattoo them on his body. Why not tattoo people with some kind of psyche? About the chance of meeting family of the victim somewhere.
4. (PROS)There is people victim from a lot of other things that could be tattooed on someone. Like dogs, car, horse, guns, flags from a country that do terrorism attacks on others countries, etc. I'm sure there is way more chance of some of these tattoos triggering PTSD on someone, than this girl meeting one of the victim's family members.
5. (CONS) Tattooing serial killer is so wrong as tattooing pedophiles. But I don't think it is fair to control that kind of tattoo.
The only one I don't judge is the tattoo artist. If he doesn't do it, someone will. But i would like to hear some of your friends that are tattoo artist. What they say about it? Would you interview them?
As someone who has studied biology, specifically plants, I agree with you on how she might see them as objective case studies. The scientific process of testing hypotheses amoral, BUT the application of science is not. Serial killers are impossible to take out of a social context because psychology, social, and forensic sciences have an effect on real people. It is difficult to make an aesthetic representation of the psychology of serial killers without directly using their quotes or faces--I don't know that there is a subtle, respectful ways of doing it and maybe it shouldn't be done.
It's the difference between getting a tattoo of a parasitic plant or an eagle attacking and eating a mouse (it's natural and happens all the time. The eagle has no social obligation to the mouse. A parasitic plant has evolved to live off of other plants and that's just how it is) and getting a tattoo of a specific person who did something horrific to their own species that they naturally have a social responsibility to protect (it is unnatural and traumatic to actual individuals). It's not just the victims' families of the killers in her tattoo who are affected, but anyone who she interacts with who could have known someone who was killed by any serial killer. Which is quite likely if she is studying forensics and goes into a field working on similar cases.
I don't know what to think about the artist. Maybe it's worse if they're an artist who specializes in serial killer tattoos and routinely profits off of them...
Apologies for the ramble and I hope that makes sense!
I dated a guy with a portrait of a serial killer on him, he also had a set of blue balls with flys around it. But it was the serial killer that worried me. 😂
Theproserpina (she was a popular influencer in the alt/tattoo community for a good few years but has fallen off) she has her ARMS covered in serial killer portraits (even Albert fish 🤢 yes, the child rapist and murderer)
Victoria (Theproserpina) is also Australian (or from NZ, not sure)
"frontal lobe fully developed" 😂subtle but effective diss
those serial killer obsessed people are complete cornballs to me.
Ted: you know Jeff... some people make me sick
Jeff: you should try cooking them longer
Ted: 😳