Filmed August 2023, This video is how im using the OnneX Clicker to help fix my target panic, using principles taught to me by watching and supporting Shot IQ, Joel Turner, John Dudley, Levi Morgan, and Elk Shape. I am simply showing how I have used there skills to help me get over this target panic mess I'm in. I dont consider myself an teacher, but maybe this video can help those who are going through target panic.
I’m using the same release but in brass. I had the sage one (I prefer that color to the brass) but I like the feel of the brass one better. So far it has significantly helped me slowed down my shot process. Which also allowed me to accept pin float. Doing both of those have significantly helped my target panic. I do have the travel to click heavy so there is more travel which helps me focus on a slow and steady pull.
yeah, I want the weight of the brass in sage green. For me it removes the anxiety of having too much pressure on the button or not enough. U know once that click goes off it's basically go time. Which I really like.
Target panic is a sign of anticipating the shot. A good exercise to help remind you what a shot should feel like is to stand close to a target with your trigger release on and have someone push the trigger for you after the arrow is properly aimed. It should come as a complete surprise to you when the release happens. This is how the many releases on the market should feel to you. You shouldn't be able to anticipate when the shot is going off. You just continue to push/pull through the shot until the release surprisingly happens. I use this method with hinge releases and even trigger releases while hunting. Another thing I heard you mention when discussing target panic was keeping the sight pin on the target. This is another sign you are trying too hard. The better way is extreme focus on a small spot on the target and the peep/pin just happen to fall into your line of vision properly. Your focus should remain on the target, not the pin. It's a similar process to what we use in traditional instinctive shooting. Many times, when shooting compound and the trigger releases, it feels to me like the pin was not on the target but did hit where it should. I suggest getting Bernie Pelerite's "Idiot Proof Archery." It was an indispensable book for me when relearning how to shoot archery after a five year hiatus due to military service. It will help you work through target panic and never look back. Hope this helps. I appreciate your videos, especially the Hunt Arsenal ones since there are few of those on UA-cam.
Thank you so much for this detailed comment. Nobody ever talks about what there process is for actually aiming at the target. I am just a student of the game, I try and share my experiences along the way and reading your comment about your process is very helpful. Thank you for sharing Bernie Pelerite's "Idiot Proof Archery." book, I just ordered it!!
Instead of grip tape I took some 30 grit sandpaper, removed the particles from the paper and, with 5 minute epoxy, glued the grit to the release - I really like the positive feel.
It really helps you slow down the shot process and helps create a routine which can help with target panic. The only way Ive beaten it with an index release is to literally shoot thousands and thousands of arrows....
Tried to switch to thumb button last season, had trouble with getting the right pressure on the thumb button. Always felt i was not in control, if you know what mean, especially for hunting. This might be the ticket.
I know exactly what you mean, and if you have been using an index for years it's even harder IMO to transition. That's why I think the release trainer is critical, you really have to put some work into the transition period...
Looks like a cool release. I finally switch to a thumb button this season. I'm using the B3 Exit Pro. This things looks pretty sweet but I think that i could be a bit worried hunting with it. That click seems a bit loud. Are you concerned that it will alert deer before you shoot?
It’s kind of crazy once you get over that shot anticipation and just allow the shot process to happen for a surprise shot it just becomes natural. I can’t punch off a shot anymore at all even if I want to. The click is pretty cool it’s kind of like the Scott verge index i used that click to get the right pre load then I started pulling. As far as a thumb goes I set my releases heavy with no travel and can repeat my preload if I want the shot to go off quicker in a hunting situation I just add more preload but still pull through my shot.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors for me setting it colder makes the shot anticipation worse. I can feel the trigger moving it’s like setting a hinge cold I keep going “when is this shot going to break” then my shot starts to breakdown. That’s why for me atleast setting it heavy with no travel I still have to add some preload to the trigger and just keep pulling. I just bought a Stan perfex short neck and man by far stan makes the best releases to set the release heavy and no travel. That training pin helps with setting that also I threw that in drew back put some good preload on the trigger where I could smush the skin on my thumb on it and kept repeating until I could do so without hearing it fire. Before doing so though I used my shot trainer to set the travel to no travel where I could safely pull back without the fear of it misfiring. I’ve tried every brand release out there and almost every release nothing compares to a Stan release not even that over priced UV button.
Single digit manipulation is a command. It still requires a mental thought which interrupts your down range focus for a micro second which can allows for pin movement. Set it up where you just pull. No thoughts at all. As the pin float gets to is smallest just keep pulling WITHOUT having to even think. No command now stuff. This is a more continuos action from the second you achieve your anchor.
So I did receive the release, the click is a little hard to get used to so I've kept it running as a normal thumb release for now however I didn't notice the same thing on my DL, I had a very small polishing tip for my Dremel that I put somepolishing compound on to smooth it out
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors it seems like any pieces of equipment that you get these days for Archery, rifle, pistol, anything for that matter, we always have to modify or make an adjustment because we both know nothing is built like it used to be
Thanks for the transparent review. At that price, it is unfortunate that a burr on the hook (the working part of the product) speaks volumes about product quality and manufacturing.
correct, You will need a 5/64 allen key for the travel and tension adjustments. First cock the release. With the release cocked adjust the trigger travel adjustment screw located between the trigger and hammer clockwise until the release fires, then, turn the adjustment screw counterclockwise to the point that the release can be cocked. At this point the release has no travel and trigger tension can now be taken away or added to the system (at this point the release is set in the click shelf and will function as a standard thumb). Turn the adjustment screw counterclockwise more to engage the clicker shelf to enable the clicker function of the release.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors appreciate it, I'm gonna get it dialed in minus the click first then I'll work the click in I'm already running a stan without the click so it should be butter
Sounds good man, out of all the releases I own im shooting this one the best right now. My wife and I are actually fighting over it for TAC this week lol
Great video, thank you. So the click is tied to the pressure, not the travel? If travel is set to near zero, the click is based only on the amount of pressure? And if so, the click pressure is fully adjustable? Thanks
Your OnneX Clicker Thumb release is adjustable for both trigger travel and tension. Trigger travel refers to trigger movement and trigger tension refers to the amount of force required on the trigger for your release to fire
I pulled this off the website, I didnt change any settings on mine, I like how it is right out of the box. Factory Reset: You will need a 5/64 allen key for the travel and tension adjustments. First cock the release. With the release cocked adjust the trigger travel adjustment screw located between the trigger and hammer clockwise until the release fires, then, turn the adjustment screw counterclockwise to the point that the release can be cocked. At this point the release has no travel and trigger tension can now be taken away or added to the system (at this point the release is set in the click shelf and will function as a standard thumb). Turn the adjustment screw counterclockwise more to engage the clicker shelf to enable the clicker function of the release. Adjusting Trigger Tension: You will need a 5/64 allen key. Trigger tension is adjusted using the screw located in the outside of the index finger hook. Turning the tension adjustment screw clockwise makes the trigger feel heavier to activate, turning it counterclockwise makes it feel lighter. Adjust the screw until you find your desired tension. CAUTION: Be careful not to adjust the tension so light that the release goes off unintentionally. This release can be set light enough that even the slightest contact can activate the mechanism. Unintentional activation can cause serious damage to yourself and others. The OnneX Clicker can be adjusted to a point past the click. After each adjustment, test the settings with caution and attention to possible accidental activation for at least 10 consecutive shots. Adjusting Trigger Travel: You will need a 5/64 allen key for this adjustment. Trigger travel is adjusted using the trigger travel adjustment screw located between the trigger and the hammer. Turning the trigger travel adjustment screw clockwise decreases trigger travel, while turning counterclockwise increases trigger travel. CAUTION: Be careful not to adjust the travel so low that the release goes off unintentionally. The travel can be set right on the edge of contact, and it is important to make sure there is enough engagement to repeatedly maintain its lock through the entire draw cycle. The release can unintentionally fire if there is not adequate engagement to maintain its lock. Unintentional activation can cause serious injury to yourself and others. The OnneX Clicker can be adjusted to a point past the click. After each adjustment, test the setting with caution and attention to possible unintentional activation for at least 10 consecutive shots. Adjusting the Thumb knob: You will need a 5/64 allen key for this adjustment. The thumb barrel on your STAN is fully adjustable for height, angle, and tilt. There are two different trigger extension lengths and barrels. To change the barrel and extension, remove the screws from the extension and loosen the screw in the end of the barrel, being careful not to lose the locking slug that is in the barrel. Reattach the barrel extension you want to use to your release
My Onnix C came today. I'm curious as to how long after the click you continue to hold - after having shot it a while. Re-watching your vid. I see you hold about 0ne second after the click - has that changed? I really like how sharp the knurling is on the Onnix, no need to glue on sandpaper grit.
I dont really have a count, I just know that once the click happens its going to go off and u just want to keep pulling as slow as possible to hopefully get a surprise release.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Over the last week I've been watching LOTS of 'release' videos. Maybe because it is so obvious, nobody mentions oiling the release. I just applied a good gun oil to my brand new release - what a HUGE difference!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors That's my point, NO videos referenced oiling - not yours or anyone else's. I used 'Rem Oil' - gun oil - with a tube on the spray can, shot into both front and back guts. (almost had to retune the release!)
Unfortunately, I don't think there is any way to explain it where it will make any sense... You have to try them or go to Lancaster where they have the sizes all on a size ring... I got the XL and I think a large would have worked for me, my wife has the medium and she likes it, she has pretty small hands I pulled this off of Stans Website. What is the size difference between the small, medium, large, X-large, and XXL handles? There is a 10% size increase between sizes. We use glove sizing as a design reference. Our hook and finger bed locations are also the same across the SX3, Shootoff, PerfeX and now the OnneX handles.
Filmed August 2023, This video is how im using the OnneX Clicker to help fix my target panic, using principles taught to me by watching and supporting Shot IQ, Joel Turner, John Dudley, Levi Morgan, and Elk Shape. I am simply showing how I have used there skills to help me get over this target panic mess I'm in. I dont consider myself an teacher, but maybe this video can help those who are going through target panic.
Your vanes are offset the wrong direction. Probably doesn't affect your shot much but it would bother me lol.
I've been shooting the clicker for 3 months now and I love it. It has slowed down my shot process and that has made me a lot more accurate.
It's a good one!! Did you adjust yours at all. Or is it still set to factory settings?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I played with the travel a bit it was very close tho
right on, I left mine factory and was really happy with it.
I’m using the same release but in brass. I had the sage one (I prefer that color to the brass) but I like the feel of the brass one better. So far it has significantly helped me slowed down my shot process. Which also allowed me to accept pin float. Doing both of those have significantly helped my target panic. I do have the travel to click heavy so there is more travel which helps me focus on a slow and steady pull.
yeah, I want the weight of the brass in sage green. For me it removes the anxiety of having too much pressure on the button or not enough. U know once that click goes off it's basically go time. Which I really like.
Target panic is a sign of anticipating the shot. A good exercise to help remind you what a shot should feel like is to stand close to a target with your trigger release on and have someone push the trigger for you after the arrow is properly aimed. It should come as a complete surprise to you when the release happens. This is how the many releases on the market should feel to you. You shouldn't be able to anticipate when the shot is going off. You just continue to push/pull through the shot until the release surprisingly happens. I use this method with hinge releases and even trigger releases while hunting.
Another thing I heard you mention when discussing target panic was keeping the sight pin on the target. This is another sign you are trying too hard. The better way is extreme focus on a small spot on the target and the peep/pin just happen to fall into your line of vision properly. Your focus should remain on the target, not the pin. It's a similar process to what we use in traditional instinctive shooting. Many times, when shooting compound and the trigger releases, it feels to me like the pin was not on the target but did hit where it should.
I suggest getting Bernie Pelerite's "Idiot Proof Archery." It was an indispensable book for me when relearning how to shoot archery after a five year hiatus due to military service. It will help you work through target panic and never look back.
Hope this helps. I appreciate your videos, especially the Hunt Arsenal ones since there are few of those on UA-cam.
Thank you so much for this detailed comment. Nobody ever talks about what there process is for actually aiming at the target. I am just a student of the game, I try and share my experiences along the way and reading your comment about your process is very helpful. Thank you for sharing Bernie Pelerite's "Idiot Proof Archery." book, I just ordered it!!
Instead of grip tape I took some 30 grit sandpaper, removed the particles from the paper and, with 5 minute epoxy, glued the grit to the release - I really like the positive feel.
That's wild! I never heard of that one before!
Great to see you putting out videos again! Been super helped by your reviews. Keep it up!
Glad to hear that! Thank you! - Polack
I appreciate the breakdown. Answered a lot of questions for me
@joshbrock1751 that's awesome glad it was helpful!! 💪
Man I've deal with target Panic and have for years I still use an index release.! I definitely need to look into one of those.! Great video 👊
It really helps you slow down the shot process and helps create a routine which can help with target panic. The only way Ive beaten it with an index release is to literally shoot thousands and thousands of arrows....
ShotIQ is well worth the money if you have TP
Have you done it? Id like to try it.
Tried to switch to thumb button last season, had trouble with getting the right pressure on the thumb button. Always felt i was not in control, if you know what mean, especially for hunting. This might be the ticket.
I know exactly what you mean, and if you have been using an index for years it's even harder IMO to transition. That's why I think the release trainer is critical, you really have to put some work into the transition period...
Looks like a cool release. I finally switch to a thumb button this season. I'm using the B3 Exit Pro.
This things looks pretty sweet but I think that i could be a bit worried hunting with it. That click seems a bit loud. Are you concerned that it will alert deer before you shoot?
Not at all, the click sounds louder than normal cause the mic is hanging from my neck so its basically right next to it.
It’s kind of crazy once you get over that shot anticipation and just allow the shot process to happen for a surprise shot it just becomes natural. I can’t punch off a shot anymore at all even if I want to. The click is pretty cool it’s kind of like the Scott verge index i used that click to get the right pre load then I started pulling. As far as a thumb goes I set my releases heavy with no travel and can repeat my preload if I want the shot to go off quicker in a hunting situation I just add more preload but still pull through my shot.
I need to set mine colder and play with that and see how I like it.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors for me setting it colder makes the shot anticipation worse. I can feel the trigger moving it’s like setting a hinge cold I keep going “when is this shot going to break” then my shot starts to breakdown. That’s why for me atleast setting it heavy with no travel I still have to add some preload to the trigger and just keep pulling. I just bought a Stan perfex short neck and man by far stan makes the best releases to set the release heavy and no travel. That training pin helps with setting that also I threw that in drew back put some good preload on the trigger where I could smush the skin on my thumb on it and kept repeating until I could do so without hearing it fire. Before doing so though I used my shot trainer to set the travel to no travel where I could safely pull back without the fear of it misfiring. I’ve tried every brand release out there and almost every release nothing compares to a Stan release not even that over priced UV button.
Single digit manipulation is a command. It still requires a mental thought which interrupts your down range focus for a micro second which can allows for pin movement. Set it up where you just pull. No thoughts at all. As the pin float gets to is smallest just keep pulling WITHOUT having to even think. No command now stuff. This is a more continuos action from the second you achieve your anchor.
I like this... very good explanation of your shot sequence!! Thanks
So I did receive the release, the click is a little hard to get used to so I've kept it running as a normal thumb release for now however I didn't notice the same thing on my DL, I had a very small polishing tip for my Dremel that I put somepolishing compound on to smooth it out
well that's annoying!! My wife took mine over, so now we need to buy a size medium for her....
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors it seems like any pieces of equipment that you get these days for Archery, rifle, pistol, anything for that matter, we always have to modify or make an adjustment because we both know nothing is built like it used to be
@@Aldocello1 sad isn't it! Specially for the prices of this stuff!!!
Are you saying you can turn the click off if you don't like it?
Awesome video, thanks. God bless
Thank you!!
love your work my g
Thanks!!
Great review.
Thank you!
Thanks for the transparent review. At that price, it is unfortunate that a burr on the hook (the working part of the product) speaks volumes about product quality and manufacturing.
Great point! It wasn't that much work to fix it....
If I am not mistaken you can also adjust it to where you can shoot it like a standard thumb release without the click ?
correct,
You will need a 5/64 allen key for the travel and tension adjustments. First cock the release. With
the release cocked adjust the trigger travel adjustment screw located between the trigger and
hammer clockwise until the release fires, then, turn the adjustment screw counterclockwise to the
point that the release can be cocked. At this point the release has no travel and trigger tension
can now be taken away or added to the system (at this point the release is set in the click shelf
and will function as a standard thumb). Turn the adjustment screw counterclockwise more to
engage the clicker shelf to enable the clicker function of the release.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors appreciate it, I'm gonna get it dialed in minus the click first then I'll work the click in I'm already running a stan without the click so it should be butter
Sounds good man, out of all the releases I own im shooting this one the best right now. My wife and I are actually fighting over it for TAC this week lol
Great video, thank you. So the click is tied to the pressure, not the travel? If travel is set to near zero, the click is based only on the amount of pressure? And if so, the click pressure is fully adjustable? Thanks
Your OnneX Clicker Thumb release is adjustable for both trigger travel and tension. Trigger travel
refers to trigger movement and trigger tension refers to the amount of force required on the trigger
for your release to fire
I pulled this off the website, I didnt change any settings on mine, I like how it is right out of the box.
Factory Reset:
You will need a 5/64 allen key for the travel and tension adjustments. First cock the release. With
the release cocked adjust the trigger travel adjustment screw located between the trigger and
hammer clockwise until the release fires, then, turn the adjustment screw counterclockwise to the
point that the release can be cocked. At this point the release has no travel and trigger tension
can now be taken away or added to the system (at this point the release is set in the click shelf
and will function as a standard thumb). Turn the adjustment screw counterclockwise more to
engage the clicker shelf to enable the clicker function of the release.
Adjusting Trigger Tension:
You will need a 5/64 allen key. Trigger tension is adjusted using the screw located in the outside
of the index finger hook. Turning the tension adjustment screw clockwise makes the trigger feel
heavier to activate, turning it counterclockwise makes it feel lighter. Adjust the screw until you find
your desired tension. CAUTION: Be careful not to adjust the tension so light that the release goes
off unintentionally. This release can be set light enough that even the slightest contact can
activate the mechanism.
Unintentional activation can cause serious damage to yourself and others. The OnneX Clicker can
be adjusted to a point past the click. After each adjustment, test the settings with caution and
attention to possible accidental activation for at least 10 consecutive shots.
Adjusting Trigger Travel:
You will need a 5/64 allen key for this adjustment. Trigger travel is adjusted using the trigger
travel adjustment screw located between the trigger and the hammer. Turning the trigger travel
adjustment screw clockwise decreases trigger travel, while turning counterclockwise increases
trigger travel. CAUTION: Be careful not to adjust the travel so low that the release goes off
unintentionally. The travel can be set right on the edge of contact, and it is important to make
sure there is enough engagement to repeatedly maintain its lock through the entire draw cycle.
The release can unintentionally fire if there is not adequate engagement to maintain its lock.
Unintentional activation can cause serious injury to yourself and others. The OnneX Clicker
can be adjusted to a point past the click. After each adjustment, test the setting with caution
and attention to possible unintentional activation for at least 10 consecutive shots.
Adjusting the Thumb knob:
You will need a 5/64 allen key for this adjustment. The thumb barrel on your STAN is fully adjustable for
height, angle, and tilt. There are two different trigger extension lengths and barrels. To change the barrel
and extension, remove the screws from the extension and loosen the screw in the end of the barrel, being
careful not to lose the locking slug that is in the barrel. Reattach the barrel extension you want to use to your
release
My Onnix C came today. I'm curious as to how long after the click you continue to hold - after having shot it a while. Re-watching your vid. I see you hold about 0ne second after the click - has that changed?
I really like how sharp the knurling is on the Onnix, no need to glue on sandpaper grit.
I dont really have a count, I just know that once the click happens its going to go off and u just want to keep pulling as slow as possible to hopefully get a surprise release.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Over the last week I've been watching LOTS of 'release' videos. Maybe because it is so obvious, nobody mentions oiling the release. I just applied a good gun oil to my brand new release - what a HUGE difference!
@jthepickle7 where did u oil it? What video referenced that?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors That's my point, NO videos referenced oiling - not yours or anyone else's. I used 'Rem Oil' - gun oil - with a tube on the spray can, shot into both front and back guts. (almost had to retune the release!)
Yep,it's a release that gives you target panic....
Ive heard others say this, how come u think that?
Just a thought, wouldn’t the brass version tarnish quickly and become dull? (Unless they clear coated it with something)
Hmmm, Maybe... Im not 100% sure.
Can anyone explain the sizing to me? How do I know if I need a medium or large? Other than going to a local shop…No shops near me have both sizes.
Unfortunately, I don't think there is any way to explain it where it will make any sense... You have to try them or go to Lancaster where they have the sizes all on a size ring... I got the XL and I think a large would have worked for me, my wife has the medium and she likes it, she has pretty small hands
I pulled this off of Stans Website.
What is the size difference between the small, medium, large, X-large, and XXL handles?
There is a 10% size increase between sizes. We use glove sizing as a design reference. Our hook and finger bed locations are also the same across the SX3, Shootoff, PerfeX and now the OnneX handles.
UV button or Stan onnex clicker? Switching from a wise guy boa. Which would you recommend?
either one, I shoot the clicker the best but I like the button for hunting since it fits with a glove nicer.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors probably going with the uv button, lifetime warranty vs 1 year warranty! Thanks for the feedback!
anytime!
Pin on the X , focus on the target not the pin and trust the float!
Yes sir!!
Joel Turner absolutely does not teach "command shooting". He teaches controlled shots. Very different things
Yeah but single digit manipulation is still a "command" Isnt it?
You hear but dont listen. Joel absolutely doesnt teach command. He teaches single digit manipulation to a surprise shot