Are you cutting tenons accurately? You are in for surprise...
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- Опубліковано 24 кві 2024
- This was fun video to do and hopefully you will find it usefull.... Now as most stuff these days,this has been topic of many discussons and in my opinion its very simple....
We tent to over think this so step back and simplify the process and in this video you'll see it doesn't have to be excact....
Bonus little Rant on 40 minute mark about this over complicate trend in woodturning and specially woodworking....
Hope you'll enjoy
Thank YOU.
disclaimer- I'm profesional woodturner. Methods that are shown works great for me and they are not only methods out there, if you find this or any other method not comfortble,please use some other way.
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disclaimer Methods that are shown works great for me and they are not only methods out there, if you find this or any other method not comfortble,please use some other way.
Thank you and enjoy - Навчання та стиль
You’re the best wood turning instructor on UA-cam, and there are a lot of great turners and woodworkers on UA-cam.
Thank you sir, I'm far from that title but one day maybe 😉
The best professor of the art of turning wood on the planet. Thanks for what you do. Wish you were my neighbor.
Thank you very much, I'm honored you like my work and videos ☺️
That was really informative and helpful. Thank you Tomislav.
Great demonstration tomislav every day is a school day 👍🙂
Thanks Will, we all learn every day 😉
You can finesse the fun right out of turning with all the trying to be perfect with everything. Occasionally I get the gap on the jaws just right and the angle on the dovetail just right but if I had to work at that each turn, I'd lose the fun of what I really wanted to do. Enjoy watching you work!
Take care, Dave
Thank you Dave very much
Good video - good enough is good enough.
very easy to understand clearly explained most excellent instructor
Thank you very much
Great video, I agrefae to many fancy gages and things on the market today that you don''t need, along with some of the new tools with all the different bevel angles. You are one of the best instructors on youtube learned alot on this video, thanks
Thank you buddy very much
Great video, Tomislav! I am somewhat new to wood turning in my senior years. I watch several turners. I enjoy your videos and your instructions. I agree, we are not machining precision parts, we are turning wood!! Wood is not perfect so; our turning does not have to be perfect. After all, it is art that is handmade. If you want wood turning to be perfect, use a robotic machine that can duplicate. When I have a piece of wood on the lathe, I am thinking more about overall shape and creativity that this particular piece of wood will let me do than I am about precision measurements.
Keep the great videos coming - I have learned a lot from you.
Thank you very much
Another great lesson Tomislav.
Thanks for the great information. Totally agree about the fascination with extreme accuracy- totally not necessary
Great explanation, thank you for sharing your knowledge, especially for beginners.
There is nothing wrong with a good rant.....
As always, a great instruction video.
Between your videos and Richard Raffan's videos, I feel like I'm getting a complete Master's class in turning. This was an excellent in-depth video. Your explanation of why one wants the recess deeper than any outside inset is spot-on from an engineering standpoint. Your explanations are well thought out and quite clear. Thanks for the effort you put into these videos; it is greatly appreciated. Record chuck jaws don't have a dovetail when used for compression tenons, but have a small hook that engages the straight tenon. Works well from the standpoint of giving a strong hold but does crush the tenon and leaves marks.
Thank you Mark for kind words 🤗, you are right,those RP jaws hold well but dig in the wood, I did get around that when I had them by making small decoratiom groove to hide the beak.
I never thought about when making a recess to have it just a little bit deeper than the outside part of the recess. Makes perfect sense. I'm really learning from your videos. Thanks
Thank you again for a great video that is easy to follow & always learning something have a good weekend
Regards
Steve UK London
Thank you Steve👍
25 minutes of clear instructions: 'this little video'. Heh. Well, I always think that the great furniture builders and turners of the past didn't need all that precision either, so rant completely understood. Thanks for another excellent video.
I agree👍
Thank you very much for watching Joris
Great video, just wish I had seen it last week, as this was the topic I covered at our monthly Turners meeting on last Saturday and you have backed up my comments and tips that I showed . Thanks Tomislav. Now to send the youtube address to our club members.
Thank you Richard,I appriciate that very much
I agree that a tenon is less likely to split or break. The main reason that I typically use a mortise on the bottom of my bowls is strictly for design. I prefer a little bit of a foot - hollow in the middle, so mainly a ring. I find that using a mortise, I only have to do minima shaping to end up with the ring foot. This is especially true when I do once-turned bowls. After they're dry, I go back and sand and just do a little bit of truing/shaping on the foot. With a tenon, I would have to do more shaping after.
As someone who works at a woodworking store... I completely agree with your rant. When someone comes in complaining about a tool being off by 1000th it drives me crazy. They are always the ones who make things difficult for no reason. Even had a guy complain about the festool table saw - the sliding table being slightly higher. Made a huge deal about it. Turns out it's built that way on purpose and it's adjustable. HE STILL WANTED A NEW ONE AND REFUSED TO ADJUST IT 😡
Those are the worst, awfull, glad you survived that and thank you very much for watching
A good tutorial for beginners and experienced turners. Thank you Tomislav.
Thank You for watching
Great Tutorial again. Thank you again
Simple and understandable explanation very important things! Thank You!!
I progress every day with your videos thank you great boss 👍
Great to hear that 🤗
Great information..i see too many youtubers that don't know how to use a chuck correctly they bottom out the tenon and can't understand why the piece comes off. And one of my petpeves is using a mortise for a bowl and leaving it because you don't want to or can't remove it. In my opinion it looks unfinished. Keep up the great content
Thank you sir
I loved your rant. I chuckle when they are making these uber accurate cuts. but wood moves, the next morning if you were to take calipers there'll be a measurable difference. Handmade shouldn't look like it came from a cnc. There are woodworkers that make some bits subtly off on purpose to give it a handmade look.
You make the best woodturning videos on UA-cam, Keep up the good work, Your the BEST!!
Aaa Thank you, but I still have a tone to learn
Tomislov, I love your common sense, practical approach to wood turning! When my new lathe arrives, I plan on starting to try some simple boxes and small bowls. Following your channel I feel I have the basic understanding of how to properly approach the next level in my turning journey. In my opinion, your teaching approach to turning on the lathe is the best on UA-cam ….. Thank you 🤠🇨🇱
Thank you Randy very much 😀, hopefully new lathe arrives soon
You always have great instructions and practical woodturning advice. Thank you for sharing!
Thank You for watching 😀
Great video as always sir.
Good advice, as always.
Great video. I learned alot from you. Thank you
I almost skipped straight to the rant!😂 great info Buddy! I've about stopped going to the Facebook Groups for help at all. So much bad info and opinions on them. I come to you, Richard and some old footage of Ellsworth, Batty and Mahoney. So you should find yourself in great company of the few turners I trust and turn to. Great work as always and thanks!
I'm honored to be even near that list or turners so thank you very much 😀
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning I know ur a humble dude, but you do good work and put it out there for us to learn from.
min 23:30 "if the tenon breaks don't glue it back", I surely agree with this statement but if needed instead of cutting an other tenon is possible to flatten the surface where the broken one was and glue to it a sacrificial piece of wood on which we can turn a new tenon with its shoulder. This is a safe way to go as there are turners that choose to not use a chuck and rely on glue blocks, glue is strong for joining flat surfaces. This method can be used if for whatever reason the turner does not want to loose height turning directly a new tenon in the bowl's wood.
Doing this is really important that both the tenon and its shoulder are turned in the sacrificial piece of wood, using it only for the tenon is not safe as the dovetail shape of the jaw would directly stress the glue line that is already stressed by the turning process.
Indeed I agree if situation is like that.... Thank you for comment this
Tell it like it is Tomislav! First, very good demo. I need to get a friend to watch. He has so many flying saucers, uses huge tenons and cannot figure out why I take big cuts on old wood and everything is smooth. Second, well done giving people a dose of reality. There are some custom tools and some traditional ones that make me shake my head. Sorry Phil, but you don't need Nova's dovetail tool and Sam, that point tool baffles me in the face of so many better options, but please keep turning!
I need a few adaptations for turning and in life, disability and all, but any time I can simplify and not be reliant on one device or tool it means one less dependency. I'm glad to have cole jaws when I need them but I was happier when Richard first taught making a perfect tenon and foot, with no marks when done. Simple is better. I don't turn in front of people often but recently did in front of a very rigid by-the-book person. My, the things he told me I couldn't do, even after I just had, right before his eyes! He means well, and I wasn't being unsafe, but his mind needed to relax and open up a bit. Great video and I hope you cold goes away, soon. :)
Well I appreciated the reminder to think about the centrifugal force from the jaws themselves. Seldom do I make a recess though. I also learned the technique to cut the tenon with the spindle gouge. I wasn't dropping the handle for the start. That positioning isn't so obvious with the camera view (for me at least). Thanks for your excellent teaching, as always!
Fantastic video. I also agree on the dovetail versus oneway serrated chucks. I have both. I am looking forward to getting a set of step jaws that you recommended.
Awsome,you will be pleased with jaws, little learning curve to practice on design but after that you'll explore the full potencijal
I agree with your philosophy of measurement. After all we are building wooden bowls not F-35s.
Agree😉
🕶great video Tomislav. Thanks
I enjoy your videos. Some I've seen take a lot of the artistry and fun out of turning by their complex techniques. I agree a good technique is important for good and efficient results. But I like your approach, "keep it simple." Make it fun so that more "time on the tool" ia enjoyable. You will learn more from actual turning than watching some expert on a video. IMO, there's no substitute for feeling and hearing the tool's interaction with the wood. You will make mistakes and I've made many! But this is how you will learn and develop your personal style. End of rant.
I can see from this video, I've been making my tenons too thick. I'm using Oneway chucks; they've held on to the tenons despite some awful catches on my part.
Thank you sir for watching and comment 🤗
love it thank you !!!
I almost always put that step on the tenon, making the step 1/3 of the bowl and the tenon slightly shorter.
At 30:30. That explains why I don't get clean tenons with a skew. If I got nothing else from this video, this gem makes it worth my time.
Glad to hear that ☺️
Thank you for your instruction!
Also on the chuck digging in, if you open them and rotate the work in them a bit and tighten them back and repeat, you can make an interesting pattern around the edges. Just a thought.
Indeed,that can be a feature if someone likes
Very nice great information another great video. Thanks.
Great informative video, thank you! 😎👋
Thank you
5 thumbs up!
Really great explanation,I know English is your second language but you do a great job of explaining with a combination of language and visual.Better explanation than most thank you so much this is very clear to me now.
Thank you sir, I'm glad you find this video helpfull and thanks for watching
I thought there was a distinction between a tenon and a spigot? The former had a dovetail cut and latter does not.
Not sure about correct differnce however for me they are the same as I make tenons dovetail and without 😀
Curious how you size your tenon for various sizes of turning blanks?
Usually from 40-60%of diameter.... Depends on size and shape
Very interesting. Off topic question if you could only buy one set of shark jaws which size do you find most useful. Thanks Geoff
Thank you Geoff for watching and comment, I would go probably for standard size shark jaws, so 50mm diameter as standard jaws but in shark jaws variation.... If paired with vm120 chuck then you have a tone of travel range and can grit a whole range of sizes
I was disappointed by your rant, I was expecting it to be more ranty, but it was at most ... a slight moan. I think you can do better 😁
😂😂 its UA-cam,I have to be polite👍