Clash of Claims 3?!? Daniel Naroditsky vs Vladimir Kramnik

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @burimsaliji23
    @burimsaliji23 Місяць тому +74

    Danya is a cheater

    • @SwagnusCarlton
      @SwagnusCarlton Місяць тому +133

      Pin of shame

    • @kristof80able
      @kristof80able Місяць тому

      Of course he is, he cheated against Hikaru too. Search on YT ''Nakamura Vs Naroditsky!! Grandmaster Blitz Battle!'' Already in the first game. Only a blind man cannot see this.

    • @percyweasley9301
      @percyweasley9301 Місяць тому +66

      You want to marry Kramik's daughter?🤔🙄

    • @A_NormalWeeb
      @A_NormalWeeb Місяць тому +4

      😂

    • @jestice75
      @jestice75 Місяць тому +4

      Trial by combat proves Vlad correct. Big Vlad breaking it.

  • @robertbalazsi
    @robertbalazsi Місяць тому +82

    Kramnik's annotation symbols:
    ?? - not cheating
    ? - maybe not cheating
    ?! - probably cheating
    !? - interesting
    ! - very interesting
    !! - let's do the procedure

    • @konstantinkaryaev5381
      @konstantinkaryaev5381 29 днів тому +2

      Yet I side with Kramnik in his analysis of Naroditsky, that is definitely a hilarious joke!!!

    • @CancelHappiness
      @CancelHappiness 19 днів тому

      Kramnik is a joke​@@konstantinkaryaev5381

  • @adolexical
    @adolexical Місяць тому +41

    Where did Kramnik go at the beginning of the game? Really suspicious that he just gets up and walks off camera. What was he doing?

  • @queenvrook
    @queenvrook Місяць тому +227

    Vlad the Implier (credit to Epic Chess)

    • @jestice75
      @jestice75 Місяць тому +3

      Big Vlad proven correct in trial by combat.

    • @konstantinkaryaev5381
      @konstantinkaryaev5381 29 днів тому

      @@jestice75 Besides, that is a thing not many notice. The same thing happened as we've seen earlier with Jospem: in real matches after Kramnik's analysis they show no near the previous performance in TT against the same old champion.

    • @Timmichanga361
      @Timmichanga361 6 днів тому

      Bram Stockers Statistician

  • @ManasManu
    @ManasManu Місяць тому +90

    As a player on the cusp of reaching a 2200 rating (USCF), I’ve had the privilege of training with Danya, and I can confidently say that he is an absolute powerhouse over the board. So happy to see you standing up and speaking out against these unfounded accusations. Your support and leadership in defending the integrity of the game are greatly valued. Thank you for being a role model, Hikaru!

    • @nicholasintrepidity5073
      @nicholasintrepidity5073 Місяць тому

      not accusations just questions and suspicions for the one billionth time 🙄

    • @SigSauerP226HollowPoints
      @SigSauerP226HollowPoints Місяць тому

      @@nicholasintrepidity5073Womp Womp

    • @degew9367
      @degew9367 Місяць тому

      @@nicholasintrepidity5073 bad faith questions and unfounded suspicions

    • @fabiofernandes8706
      @fabiofernandes8706 29 днів тому

      The suspicion against Naroditsky is well founded. It is quite obviously he cheats and at this point only famboys are still claiming he's clean after seeing all the evidence

  • @daedalusdreamjournal5925
    @daedalusdreamjournal5925 Місяць тому +45

    I had no idea about the differences between over the board and online games, the explanation about getting information when your opponent close their hand to a piece to move it is very informative. I had no idea that could influence the game this way.
    Anyways, thanks for the video.
    And yes, it looks like kramnik still has some very strong chess moves despite the recent insanity online.

  • @muchograndeyolatengo
    @muchograndeyolatengo Місяць тому +13

    Danya also looked stressed and nervous and was second guessing everything he did. Chess is also about confidence and Danya's looks shattered.

    • @BMWE-hm7uz
      @BMWE-hm7uz 22 дні тому

      Harder to play chess when you don't have stockfish I front of you

    • @NickMaovich
      @NickMaovich 6 днів тому

      I have 0 idea why Danya still has any level of respect towards kramnik. Dude went insane

    • @muchograndeyolatengo
      @muchograndeyolatengo 6 днів тому

      @@NickMaovich I don't think it's respect, I think he realizes that this match could potentially result in new attacks from Kramnik and his muppets.

  • @TheArmchairSessions
    @TheArmchairSessions Місяць тому +50

    Why not just put them both in a room with blindfolds and let play without a board. You'd have to be telepathic to cheat at that point lol. :)

    • @delibirdempire4792
      @delibirdempire4792 Місяць тому +10

      butt plug

    • @BanditLover-gw5us
      @BanditLover-gw5us Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂​@@delibirdempire4792

    • @gamma9141
      @gamma9141 Місяць тому +5

      Danya would get steam rolled

    • @essaysandmore
      @essaysandmore Місяць тому

      Play without a board, eh? Wink wink nudge nudge say no more say no more!

  • @jamesmaskell3743
    @jamesmaskell3743 Місяць тому +31

    Danya does have mods for his chat, but they arent always available. We saw them around rd 3/4 in the early TT Kramnik got really upset about a while back. Kramnik is now complaining about clock lag in the penultimate round. Get the violins out for modern tech issues...

    • @cwynn1547
      @cwynn1547 Місяць тому +5

      Having moderated for so many Twitch channels, the issue is random stream times. Danya streams night and day hours, and it seems to be when he feels like it. You can't expect moderators to be waiting for you to stream and checking notifications. A streamer with a regular schedule (like Hikaru) is easier to commit to being there for work.

    • @konstantinkaryaev5381
      @konstantinkaryaev5381 29 днів тому

      Yep, this time Kramnik was wrong when blaiming the clock. It also looked very pathetic. But he was really tired - after all, it''s not really easy to play two TTs in a row, second one well beyond 1am, at his age.

  • @Charge11
    @Charge11 Місяць тому +9

    The funniest part of this whole cheating accusations is they think Danya is some sort of Academy Award Winning caliber actor that can perfectly pretend on a live stream that he is thinking out-loud about moves and contemplating the lines he's weighing, when he is really just reading what an engine spits out. Obviously not the case.

    • @konstantinkaryaev5381
      @konstantinkaryaev5381 29 днів тому

      Many people noted how cheap are Daniils live analyses. That is actually proves he use engine and just afraid to speak out whole lines. Nakamura, Kramnik, Nepo, and many others even at FM level often lay out lines 3-4 moves deep from each side. Now, how often Daniil goes more than 1.5 moves ahead in his talks?

  • @naantjez
    @naantjez Місяць тому +49

    its funny how when danya said white is better and it was +0.16 according to Hikaru white is not better, but when black is -0.05 black IS better.

    • @jamesmaskell3743
      @jamesmaskell3743 Місяць тому +37

      Because a white advantage by engine eval needs to be higher than 0.16. More like 0.50 indicates white advantage. A minus score does indicate a black advantage, though. White has a natural advantage through the first move, which explains the different comments. Hikaru is accurate.

    • @plottwistaftercredits3144
      @plottwistaftercredits3144 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@jamesmaskell3743even at GM level, +/- 0.1 doesn't mean much. The human evaluation of the position is "equal".

    • @MasterInHD
      @MasterInHD Місяць тому +3

      @@jamesmaskell3743Thank you! These U2000 elo players don’t know anything, man. They just read numbers and watch bar go up and down. How did he even get 10+ likes?

    • @MasterInHD
      @MasterInHD Місяць тому +3

      @@plottwistaftercredits3144No, a minus position will always indicate Black is better. It doesn’t matter if it’s only -0.01

    • @amar-vt6wr
      @amar-vt6wr Місяць тому +5

      ​@@jamesmaskell3743 This is actually wrong. If white is better because of the first move, he's still better. Why would .15 in white favor mean it's not an advantage? Does that mean that if white having mate in 4 is worse than black having mate in 4 just because white has the initial first move advantage? It literally makes no sense. Numbers have meaning and Hikaru can be wrong sometimes.

  • @billythekid-bestservant1
    @billythekid-bestservant1 Місяць тому +9

    Seeing these two fight each other is like seeing an old samurai master fighting a young samurai who just became a master. To put it in kramnik terms, VERY INTERESTING.

  • @movdqa
    @movdqa Місяць тому +14

    Is Kramnik drinking performance enhancing substances in that cup? I'm just asking questions. Hikaru needs staff to pull up a random board and put the position on the engine. Has Kramnik given up on attacking Danya? I haven't seen any videos one way or another in a week.

  • @nagillack
    @nagillack Місяць тому +13

    Danya played with one eye on the board, half an eye on the clock and where was the other half an eye?????

  • @paradigmshift4686
    @paradigmshift4686 Місяць тому +11

    Is Kramnik going to announce the name of the GM who has gotten stockfish embedded on the inside of his corneas?

  • @lospolloshermanosenthusias9333
    @lospolloshermanosenthusias9333 Місяць тому +1

    The way you have been handling this whole Kramnik situation is actually very commendable, respect

  • @Longbajubi
    @Longbajubi Місяць тому +2

    "I'm so good at chess sometimes" my brother in Christ YOU are the Hikaru Nakamura the hell you mean

  • @bikramhazarika6060
    @bikramhazarika6060 25 днів тому +1

    People are laughing seeing world champion kramnik doesn’t convert winning position in 10 secs that too online at 50 years age.

  • @urielPa308
    @urielPa308 Місяць тому +15

    very interesting.. everything is clear to me now.. block and report!

  • @stevenn7191
    @stevenn7191 Місяць тому +1

    Hikaru: White is actually slightly losing here
    The Dude: Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

  • @raffaeleallocca2424
    @raffaeleallocca2424 Місяць тому

    Danya's keyboard to Kramnik: "Well, that's awkward, someone needs to go back home and change"

  • @abrahxmmm
    @abrahxmmm Місяць тому +1

    W editor for editing out the result of the game

    • @GMHikaru
      @GMHikaru  Місяць тому +2

      I'll take that W -- the editor

  • @agentraydg839
    @agentraydg839 Місяць тому +1

    That thumbnail tho, maybe next time Danya & Kramnik get in to chess boxing then Hikaru gets to be referee!

  • @Neodynium.the_permanent_magnet
    @Neodynium.the_permanent_magnet Місяць тому +1

    The commentator predicated the best move multiple times.
    He should play chess.

  • @Kraterlandschaft
    @Kraterlandschaft Місяць тому +1

    14:44: Every time Hikaru laughs, God kills a kitten.

  • @The_Real_Fufu
    @The_Real_Fufu Місяць тому +16

    Clash of clans❌
    Clash of Claims✅

  • @jamesduggan7200
    @jamesduggan7200 Місяць тому

    In the old days, when two GMs like that sat down for a few games speed quickly a crowd of twenty or so would surround the board. Of course the clock took quite a pounding but for the most part the pieces always landed at or near the center of the square.

  • @MJLindahouse
    @MJLindahouse 22 дні тому

    Wow this proves Hikaru is on another level to all these guys.

  • @davidmasse2829
    @davidmasse2829 Місяць тому

    It’s like getting fact checked in real time by the best speed player in the world

  • @JasonPawn
    @JasonPawn Місяць тому +1

    so Hikaru pulls up a board and plays their first what 8 or 9 moves , from memory

    • @JasonPawn
      @JasonPawn Місяць тому

      oh yeah , I suppose everyone in chat can do that

  • @RyanWalshGuitar
    @RyanWalshGuitar 8 годин тому

    I genuinely hope someone sues kramnik for defamation at this point.

  • @jorgerosero1745
    @jorgerosero1745 16 днів тому

    Just want to point out that 0.16 for white and white is not better, but 0.16 for black and black is better. You can’t have it both ways Hikaru.

  • @stoatystoat174
    @stoatystoat174 Місяць тому

    12:48 I was really concentrating on the board, then glanced across and saw the face Hikaru is pulling at the horsey move 👺🐴🤣

  • @LutherFrost
    @LutherFrost Місяць тому

    THESE GMS SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO PLAY "ONLINE"

  • @axel_r_
    @axel_r_ Місяць тому +15

    4:14 White is at 0.16 advantage and Hikaru dismisses that as nothing.
    6:50: Black is at 0.05 advantage and Hikaru explicitly makes an exclamation that black is better(!)
    Everyone looking at the meter: 👁👄👁

    • @axel_r_
      @axel_r_ Місяць тому +1

      Bonus: 15:26 Kramnik "I was COMPLETELY winning" despite the meter never being that much at his end in the match.

    • @tianledeng6179
      @tianledeng6179 Місяць тому +1

      He did realise and add "very silghtly" lol

    • @invertedantielephant7658
      @invertedantielephant7658 Місяць тому

      Great observation, the truth hurts

    • @michimike-hx3so
      @michimike-hx3so Місяць тому

      he was COMPLETELY winning haha

    • @xbblackice5485
      @xbblackice5485 Місяць тому

      Well, that makes sense cause in context Danya is saying white was better... In the first clip White IS better but only slightly (Danya is right). but in the second clip White IS NOT better in fact Black is slightly better (Danya is wrong) So he "!!"

  • @danj2537
    @danj2537 Місяць тому

    How did Kramnik make his first move away from the board?

  • @ed4wg380
    @ed4wg380 23 дні тому

    I think hikaru purposely brought in alot of engine to show that danya is not a cheater

  • @dududududu6019
    @dududududu6019 Місяць тому

    this is the best way how to show Kramnik who is right and who isn t. He needs to touch a grass.

  • @JohnBoyGamer1
    @JohnBoyGamer1 Місяць тому +3

    this Vladimir guy is pretty sketchy, he's probably a cheater

  • @brendonwatson4058
    @brendonwatson4058 Місяць тому

    Given the difference between classical and blitz, maybe computer evals should go for fewer moves for blitz?... that may simulate the difference?

  • @0nkw
    @0nkw Місяць тому +3

    Vlad the Implier strikes again!

  • @LutherFrost
    @LutherFrost Місяць тому

    ITS NOT JUST A GAME YOU FOOL, CHESS IS LIFE!!!!

  • @lordrafa1991
    @lordrafa1991 Місяць тому

    your point..maybe they need to add mouse mark of both players? so u can see what the other doing like in board chess?

  • @Truffle_Pup
    @Truffle_Pup Місяць тому

    Hikaru's chat can be unbearable, they just don't listen to what he is saying and ask the stupidest questions.

  • @mattshuey1
    @mattshuey1 Місяць тому +79

    Danya looking to the right in under 30 seconds

    • @nicholasintrepidity5073
      @nicholasintrepidity5073 Місяць тому +3

      extremely interesting also looks to the right right before he equalized the position 🤔

    • @cz19856
      @cz19856 Місяць тому

      when

    • @ssamout
      @ssamout Місяць тому +9

      kramnik keeps glancing right, what is he lookin??

    • @Etherglide
      @Etherglide Місяць тому +6

      Oh, give it up.

    • @salovamrani2084
      @salovamrani2084 Місяць тому +8

      Pin of shame

  • @orenawaerenyeager
    @orenawaerenyeager Місяць тому +2

    Danya hoping for draw is so hilarious , lol

  • @TDOLLA
    @TDOLLA Місяць тому

    i can see Shredder open from the glare in Kramniks glasses… not cool man

  • @subi6478
    @subi6478 Місяць тому +1

    @admin forgot to put code here lol

  • @Jingalamo
    @Jingalamo Місяць тому +8

    Nobody:
    Absolutely Nobody:
    Hikaru: White is not better here

  • @NJDJ1986
    @NJDJ1986 Місяць тому +1

    @0:46 Danya's laugh made my day! 😂😂

  • @witheringhs7766
    @witheringhs7766 25 днів тому

    notice how hikaru has not a single word of commentary to provide at the end of the game with seconds left? That's because engines dont work on youtube videos. Only the best players can play end games that fast and still be accurate without one. I wonder why he keeps stressing that he's a "content creator" and specifically Not a professional.

  • @fixpontt
    @fixpontt Місяць тому +178

    putting the russian flag on Naroditsky in the thumbnail is just objectively, morally: WRONG

  • @LutherFrost
    @LutherFrost Місяць тому

    OK i trust Hikaru Danni boy is safe, for today.

  • @oneputt4152
    @oneputt4152 Місяць тому

    why aren't more people talking about what kramnik did in the toilet?

  • @Faith-vl4lv
    @Faith-vl4lv Місяць тому

    Wait a minute so when white has a .5 advantage, you say he is not better. But when black has a .5 advantage, you say white is worse. How does that work. Either it counts as an advantage or it doesn't

    • @degew9367
      @degew9367 Місяць тому

      The bar is lower for black

  • @kristof80able
    @kristof80able Місяць тому +1

    Kramnik would massacre him OTB. Smart Danya luckily chickened out.

  • @e3m88
    @e3m88 Місяць тому +5

    danya should stream with a gopro in his forehead.

    • @konstantinkaryaev5381
      @konstantinkaryaev5381 29 днів тому

      Good idea is for everyone in online tournaments with money prizes to be obliged to do so.

  • @ac4694
    @ac4694 Місяць тому +9

    Vlad found a new way to monetize chess 💀💀💀

  • @reapercarl5047
    @reapercarl5047 Місяць тому +1

    Intresting, time for proceda?

  • @DiscoDaveGaming
    @DiscoDaveGaming 14 днів тому

    Something tells me white isn't better here, just a hunch

  • @fire20210
    @fire20210 Місяць тому +3

    Hikaru is it needed to have a good connection to play speed chess online? (Like bullet or blitz)?

    • @legarscringe2853
      @legarscringe2853 Місяць тому +6

      Bro just play. If your connection keep crashing, then I guess you'll have to fix your WiFi box

    • @vivekchalasani
      @vivekchalasani Місяць тому

      Yes definitely

    • @hshsjeje8073
      @hshsjeje8073 Місяць тому

      @@legarscringe2853 wıfı box my ass connect ıt dırectly vıa cable

    • @Bai_Su_Zhen
      @Bai_Su_Zhen Місяць тому

      No just if you lose, accuse the opponent of cheating.

    • @black_squall
      @black_squall Місяць тому +1

      For blitz maybe not as important but yes bullet.

  • @AndyGamingGreatJob
    @AndyGamingGreatJob Місяць тому +2

    This is a way better intro than that fake ass "WELCOME BACK FOR TODAYSSSS VIDEO"

  • @edorofish
    @edorofish Місяць тому

    Danya needs a bigger monitor!

  • @4kelochess99
    @4kelochess99 Місяць тому

    1:39 Hikaru scoffing Lmao😂😂😂

  • @zjayt
    @zjayt Місяць тому

    Loved how you did this dynamic analysis!

  • @NinetySevenPercent
    @NinetySevenPercent Місяць тому

    A Russian troll farm! I'm shocked!

  • @gabrielnigro7426
    @gabrielnigro7426 Місяць тому

    Next time please use the video from "Chess fighters". Much better job edition from that channel.

  • @LutherFrost
    @LutherFrost Місяць тому

    POOR KRAMNIK IM DISGUSTED

  • @ThomasMedina-j3g
    @ThomasMedina-j3g Місяць тому

    4:10: HTF did you do that?

  • @JosephKocourek
    @JosephKocourek Місяць тому

    Go danya!!! Much better energy about you bro. We should take an example from positive dudes.

  • @V4dk4n
    @V4dk4n Місяць тому

    You know... Sometimes I imagine what would happen if this Hikaru guy went into chess...

  • @SpidermanCommenter14
    @SpidermanCommenter14 Місяць тому +1

    The best player and youtuber in chess that i have ever seen..❤Your content is amazing bro.Hope you won title again Hikaru!

    • @fikks7106
      @fikks7106 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@nikolakatanic1085 he won a lot more than you ragebaiter

  • @alanGaMeRhorror
    @alanGaMeRhorror Місяць тому

    why is hikaru glazing himself so hard in this? we know you're better at chess stop yapping lol

  • @LutherFrost
    @LutherFrost Місяць тому

    HOW DARE HE

  • @Snceday1
    @Snceday1 Місяць тому

    Yall dont even play

  • @ifandwhen-kl2cr
    @ifandwhen-kl2cr Місяць тому

    Saying a position is “better” and proving it with an engine is only sound logic if the game being played is between two engines. We have all succumbed to our robot overlords…

  • @c.c.1197
    @c.c.1197 29 днів тому

    Vlad is sick

  • @rolandasriskus6239
    @rolandasriskus6239 Місяць тому

    16:35

  • @usuariocelular8065
    @usuariocelular8065 Місяць тому

    krammik gets crushed

  • @TDOLLA
    @TDOLLA Місяць тому

    lol Hikaru laying claim to the Vienna now as his opening? lol

  • @Harishiv18
    @Harishiv18 Місяць тому

    React to Anish Sarkar talent video

  • @Riteshplayssomethin
    @Riteshplayssomethin Місяць тому

    Japanese hikaru

  • @artursverza
    @artursverza Місяць тому

    "What is this Nh6?" 😂

  • @StartingChess
    @StartingChess Місяць тому

    Watching this with Hikaru's commentary is priceless 🤣🤣🔥🔥

  • @pocketspockets-zh3ig
    @pocketspockets-zh3ig 28 днів тому

    Best part 14:45

  • @NishantKumar-fu8xn
    @NishantKumar-fu8xn Місяць тому +4

    1k views in 10 minutes
    Bro fell off

  • @GusKott
    @GusKott Місяць тому

    14:43 🤣🤣🤣

  • @raedshaheen2009
    @raedshaheen2009 Місяць тому

    The thumbnail 😂

  • @tendounn2554
    @tendounn2554 Місяць тому +2

    Наш Слоняра

  • @sniper_in_bush
    @sniper_in_bush Місяць тому

    I love life

  • @pratiksedhain1821
    @pratiksedhain1821 Місяць тому

    14:46

  • @kylelawson4964
    @kylelawson4964 Місяць тому

    “I think white is better”…”white is definitely not better here” 😆

  • @polasoliman6986
    @polasoliman6986 Місяць тому +1

    stop pausing dude! he's in love with his own voice

  • @SomePython
    @SomePython Місяць тому

    Nice to be past the political commentary and back on to pure chess.

  • @MM-tt3np
    @MM-tt3np Місяць тому +1

    Time for Danya to play with his eyes glued at the board, many does that so he can too.
    But then he will lose :P

    • @jamesmaskell3743
      @jamesmaskell3743 Місяць тому +6

      You clearly haven't seen his recent Bullet events where that's been the case, and he's been winning...

  • @fabiofernandes8706
    @fabiofernandes8706 29 днів тому +1

    Norodistky is a cheater and should be trashed

  • @juannunez4436
    @juannunez4436 Місяць тому

    Oh yes, another epic moment to use the wrong format again (3|2) instead of one so kramnik can have a decent game.

  • @dilatatoglu6289
    @dilatatoglu6289 Місяць тому +1

    hi

  • @rajbirgill7671
    @rajbirgill7671 Місяць тому

    Kramnik is a potato head😊

  • @teefaka
    @teefaka Місяць тому

    Hikaru is insufferable