I bought the EVGA GTX 590 back in May of 2011 and I paid $749.99 for it. In fact, I just checked the invoice to make sure because the GTX 590 had an MSRP of either $699 or $729. I think the EVGA version had a slightly higher clock speed and they charged a little more for it. Back then, EVGA used to have a Lifetime Warranty on their cards. My GTX 590 died in July of 2016 and EVGA replaced it with a GTX 970.
Well it´s called lack of competition and pretty much whole turing line up (both 20 and 16 series) has been quite dissapointing until they came out with "super" variants of each model that changed things a bit
Talha Saraç lol, I guess we now know how much you know about GPU manufacturing. If you want a big chip GPU I hear used 580s and 590s are really cheap on the used market. Sadly I don’t know of a single consumer GPU before the 2080ti with a chip that big. Even the 28 core Xeon processors (single chip unlike Threadripper and Epyc) is smaller.
@@richardkavanagh8835 Well that was brutal but what If I say that It is going to happen much sooner most probably by the end of 2022. 1080 would struggle to push 60 FPS at 1080p High settings and would become more like the today's 1060 by then.
@@gaunterodimm7219 considering I run games at 1440p with a mix of high and ultra and get a solid 75fps (vsync locked) in most games, I think it'll be a little longer than 2022, the 1080 is still overkill for 1080p gaming. ^^
@Anton Babani a 2080 ti is never going to outperform 2 2080 ti in sli. unless your comparing 1 new card to 2 cards that are not the same as the first one, which destroys any parallel that could possibly be drawn from their differing performance levels. thats called a controlled variable.
@Anton Babani well... Crossfire is very unsupported, but SLI still has decent gains, even in games that don't officially support it... 2x 2070 Supers nearly always outperform a single 2080 ti
since dual graphics card solutions are sorta dying, I feel like it would be easier to support to double the die size of a single gpu (so a RTX 2090 ti or something like that will have a 2080 ti chip but double the specs)
@@omrirotcod7035 hah such low inflation and you're complaining. 2011: $1 = R$ 1,80 2020: $1 = R$ 4,65 my money lost a two thirds of its worth compared to the dollar in that time. it fucking sucks. entry level cars doubled in price. used to be R$ 25k now they start at R$ 55k or something.
@Crescent Moon the graphics i could forgive, but the sound absolutely not, far cry 2 had real to life sounds, the ak makes that crunching sound, the m16/m4/ar(or whatever) makes a good "pop" and the mounted .50 cal is dead on, when using a sound system i set ptsd off with that in the mornings in iraq, its that real. ntmtf that close range blood spray is extremly accurate and the fact that the grenades are also true to life. real grenades dont throw fireballs, its a boom and a feint cloud of smoke/dust that you can still easily see through usually
@Crescent Moon sure no one cares, except you continue to comment about it. i understand that because you fall into the idocracy. talking about farcry 3 being a better game when the final boss was the same as the first except less interesting. as opposed to going against the factions, environment and even your allies in the end of a game called "farcry." id be willing to bet you never even played through farcry 2 to the finish. next you'll say assassins creed revelations was better than assassins creed 2
Keelan try running above console frame rates at 4k, let me know how that goes on a single card... Oh, btw they have 120 Hz 4k monitors, yeah even duel Titan RTX will crap it’s pants before getting even close to that, lol, hardware won’t ever keep up, somebody will just make higher resolution or faster monitor frequencies (like my 240 Hz monitor which is freaken awesome vs 120), or they will make better visuals (like that crappy fail of ray tracing, lol, not even counting that because it’s not even realistic to run on a 2080ti even at low res, but it kinda proves the point that developers will try to use whatever they can to make that game a more mind blowing or fun experience. Kind of like 3d games opened up a whole new storytelling dimension over older 2d games which were already leaps and bounds more interactive than text based games, which yes I have played on my dads old DOS machine ;) (I may have triple 4k monitors and run quad GPU, but I can dig the old retro games, pretty fun even if you have 1 color which is based when you choose the monitor and the operating system is on the old actually physically floppy paperlike floppy disks, still fun, but man have the games changed! And they will keep changing like VR has shown (where you really want 120Hz, and that’s needing 2 screens at 120Hz, and you’d probably want 4k if you could run it... so yeah, we are still way behind on hardware at 60 Hz 4k let alone that!)
I'm getting gtx 580 on tuesday. I can compare them later by myself. It will probably be faster in non-sli titles, better cooling etc. I love these videos. Thank you and keep up the good work. :)
The biggest thing that i am sure holding this card back was the 1.5 of Vram. Ran everything maxed 1080p till Rise of the TR came out. Still love this card. I had bought 3 over the years used from ebay. First one i got lasted about 2 years that i got for 450 cuz it was only like 1 year old, till 1 of the gpus died . So replaced it with a pair for about 330ish cuz the 690 was still about 500 used and the 7 series wasnt out yet i think. So I ran 2 cards for Quad ! SLI ! . Sorry I still like to say it. Till about 1 1/2 years ago when I was able to get a used 1070ti for about 250. I had them paired with a new 9600k system and it was great at first. When winter came I would move them to an open case and put my monitor ontop so the exhaust would keep me warm. Let me tell you guys if never experienced hot cards like these, they really really move lots of hot air. I wonder if they still work now. Gonna have to pull them off my wall for a trail run : ) Oh one more thing. Every time I tell people I use a 1600 watt psu, and they ask why the hell you need so much, I always say, Used to have 2 GTX 590s .....
Nigel, watching your YT channel is like wearing a warm cardigan on a cold winter evening while sitting on a couch with a blanket on your knees and sipping on a hot cup of Earl Grey.
I had the EVGA GTX 590 but it died after 5 years. The earlier versions of this card have a flaw with the power deliver system that caused the card to burn up after 2-3 years. I figured the only reason my GTX 590 lasted as long as it did is because it ended up in my daughter's system and she played nothing but MMORPG games that don't use SLI. Thanks to EVGA placing a Lifetime warranty on 500-series and older cards, I got a GTX 970 in return. In other forums I saw that some people got an EVGA GTX 780ti reference card in exchanged for their dead GTX 590. On another note, with these old SLI setups it was a Rule of Thumb to run DDU (called Driver Sweeper back then) then reinstall the drivers.
Watching it on 8800GTX, dreaming about GTX 460 from year 2010. Thinking about getting it in 2020 finally and upgrading graphic card. Saying "Welcome Fermi".
i really don't UNDERSTAND how in the world you've only got 326 K subscribers , you deserve more , keep on the good work mate, wish you the One millions very soon
I used a GTX 590 until about 18 months ago. It still games quite well, the only downside is that it doesn't have enough VRAM. Other than that it performs between a 1050 and 1050 Ti. I played Fallout 4 on ultra 1440p and it ran well enough, but it was obvious that the VRAM ran out a lot. Textures were sometimes super blurry. Ended up switching to an RX580. Btw, the TDP on a GTX590 is an insane 285 Watt.
My buddy gave me his old gaming rig back in 2014. Had this card and a 2700k. It was how I played Skyrim for the first time. He kept telling me I'd need to upgrade asap, but I ran games on that rig for years without too much fuss.
How about adding Witcher 3 into the benchmark mix? That game is surprisingly not demanding in terms of VRAM, may be interesting for GPUs of Fermi era..
You should review two Geforce 7950 GX2 cards in quad SLI! Make sure you use driver version 285.62 (or the equivalent for the os you are using) because newer ones have major issues in source engine games. You can also add SLI profile support to the older drivers by using nvidia inspector and saving the master profile from the newer drivers and then editing the older drivers and copying the profiles to it and importing. They are a beast for older games even up to 2013's tomb raider. I recommend not using windows xp as windows 7 provides better scaling and isn't limited to 2 GB of ram
thats true but fallout is 5 years old now... O.O so its like using cards from 4years ago today. that would be 1080ti or 1080 for comparison i guess in games released in 2020
I was never too much into PCs in 2011, was all ps3. crazy how far its come now but I got my first gaming pc with a 3080 in it. Glad I waited until now cruising at 4k ultra
The casing of the 590 looks like re-used GTX 295 single PCB casing with screws instead of those annoying clips that used to break off and cards in excess of 250w tend to cook themselves to an early grave...a lot. Since SLI on a stick has to share the pcie slot bandwidth with half the extra heat dumped inside the case and a high electricity bill of running two fermi's makes a gtx 590 little sense today and more of a fascinating ornament.
If your brain isn't working I'll explain it for you. British pounds and U.S dollars have different Worth's for lack of a better term. You need to think about the exchange rates between the two currencies
@@IamJay02 you are the dumbass here boy the card in the video cost 35 pounds which is 45 dollars in american I have seen these cards for 70 and above you idiot if your gonna make such a stupid comment do your fucking research god dammit
@@donottouch9110 pretty much luck. Most second hand sellers from where I live will try to make the most money out of what they have from selling. If you're lucky you'll run across someone who just wants to get rid of their old crap by selling really cheap
I remember the announcement of DX12 mgpu when I had these in quad sli. I was so excited for the vram combining capabilities. 3GB of vram on these would take them much further . If look at tomshardware gpu hierarchy they were on par performance with 680 and beaten by a 770 4GB version and not by to many frames. Looking at those 2 cards, they have more vram. It took the 780 to really dominate it by at least 20fps. Now, the mistake I regret was owning these and not the GTX 690. With only 4GBs of vram was like owning 980 that only had 6GBs. Objections ?
I bought this card couple years back from a collector. NOS stock. Thermal paste was untouch, packaging was sealed. Damn worth the price of equivalent 140USD. Bought it just for gigs and well, collector stuff.
A friend of mine is still gaming on an AMD Phenom II x6 1075T with an Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB and it has had no issues. Granted, he plays at 1920x1080 but those few times he has bumped up to 2560x1440 he still has not had any issues really to speak of. This all said, he plays mostly games from before and just after the era those components were top dog for AMD, but it is also funny to me that with those older parts he can still play games that look better than what is out on the current consoles. And does so without any on the fly changes to overall resolution like the consoles have to use to be "4k".
I wonder how this card stands up to the 7950 released one month after 2011? Still blows my mind how good that GPU still is. Only 5 series I had was the 560Ti like everyone else, still did great but was quickly in need of an upgrade. GPUs last so much longer these days.
I sold my friend a pc with a gtx 1060 He said he wanted the pc fresh so remove everything So I factory restarted it, we where sort on time I help him set it up get steam downloading and some games right before we left for the weekend I told him you need to download the drives sent him a how to video and the link to nivida A few months later we were playing mordhau and he said the game just didn’t run well on his pc, so I asked are the drives up to date? He ask how do I check. Told him go to GeForce experience on windows He said he didn’t have it 😐 So for months he was playing his games with no drives barely getting any FPS lol 😆
I used GTX 580 SLI for a fair while, but at some point I upgraded to the 3GB versions which really helped. I thought at the time it was a shame that the 590 only utilised the 1.5GB configuration. 4:40 - Exactly. I loved using 580 3GB SLI because of this, it made a huge difference to playing Oblivion, FC2, Crysis, Warhead and Crysis2 (I didn't bother with Crysis3). Note that I am certain at some point something changed with NVIDIA's drivers in a way which crippled SLI in older games. I keep finding some older games with newer drivers hit a frame rate limit, producing weird results. Older drivers didn't do this. At some point I want to go through every driver to try and work out when it changed, but certainly for older games you may well find better performance and behaviour by using XP with an older driver such as 314.22, though of course for DX11 one needs something newer than XP. I should mention though that eventually upgrading to a single GTX 980 did run a lot better than 580 SLI. Numerous results here (scroll down for the older tests, ie. FC2, Stalker COP, X3TC, etc.): www.sgidepot.co.uk/sgi.html#PC
I just bought a 5700 XT... but before that I owned a GTX 670 with 4GB (kinda rare) and I was suprised how "good" it still handles modern games! (even its single GPU)
Still have a 690 in one of the computers in the house. Had a pair of 580's before that. Didn't see a reason to upgrade till I bought a 1080Ti. And not ready to upgrade just yet. Maybe when the next gen RTX or RDNA2 cards come out.
my first gaming gpu was a gtx 295 which came out in january 2009 and the best money could buy, and this 590 built on the same two-gpu basis came out in march 2011 its funny how an entire generation (400 series) was squeezed in the 2 year time frame between that. talk about gpus getting obsolete quickly.. the sandwiched high performance gpus never aged well and werent good purchases. new features like direct x 12 came out and they couldnt run it, but then new features come out all the time, gimping older high end cards like dlss 3 and the 3090ti not being able to make use of it.
Nolan Heistad well yeah, haha, but laptops have gotten better (like my GTX1070 mobile is outbenching overclocked desktop 1070 thanks to its extra CUDA cores which is closer to 1070ti). Now they are also super thin and light (mine is in a super thin MSI GP63, so it’s like an inch thick including its 120 Hz screen, so thinner and lighter than my trusty old HP duel core i5 with integrated potato graphics). But desktop in every other case takes the win, and the 1070 is the only model Nvidia has probably ever made where the mobile is better, all other times desktop is better and usually by a LOT! The older gen they just pretty much slapped “Titan” or “xx80ti” on a 1030 and called it mobile “m” suffix, but heck even the 1070 is confusing because they have the really $hitty Max-Q (which sounds good, like maybe that’s the one you want having max performance, but no it’s really the MIN performance version with a TDP so low a hamster could push more power than it could before power throttling...) Anyways it probably helps that I tuned this ones voltage vs frequency curve myself for hours and hours (it wasn’t like the time I tuned memory for no joke 36 grueling hours before I swore I’d never do it again and then like a year later In looking at some EXOC sticks and just barely restraining saying “remember last time...” and snapping out of it). Anyways, it is just edging out what I consider a decent desktop 1070 overclock (minus circuitry mods, so it’s fair unmodded vs unmodded). Good laptop if you get them used for a deal, just swap the crappy HDD and SATA SSD and toss in a 3-3.5 GB/s M.2 NVME (~28 Gbps rated read and 24+ Gbps write speed) just so if you’ve got fast 100 Mbps or Gigabit Ethernet that it keeps up with your steam games updating (I live in the US, so most places have horrid internet like 1.5 Mbps, but McDonnalds has an insane 250 Mbps WiFi so I go there a lot and my battery wouldn’t last a weeks worth of game updates if it couldn’t keep up, lol!) I do love multi-GPU though, works great for me on my crossfire Radeon cards, love it! And duel GPU just looks so cool but I haven’t bought one as a wall decoration piece yet though I totally should because they look so cool!
The problem I find with these older cards(and I literally have boxes of previous gen high end GPU's) isnt even primarily the performance. When you are marketing a system, it has to be worth a certain amount to justify certain parts. These old high end GPU's would be great in budget builds in many cases, BUT.... they very often need the high value power supply that I would put in something like a nice X99 build, which often is enough to tip the balance of numbers against them
I almost bought one of these. Changed my mind and got SLI EVGA 3 GB 580s instead. Very smart move, the extra VRAM was a necessity for 3D Surround gaming R.I.P. Also, the 590 is takes a big performance hit vs two cards due to its much lower core clock and thermal limitations. Not to mention the fact I heard about a lot of failures due to over heating
I'd love to display that on a shelf, but wouldn't be interested in using it today. SLI in general was always a pain, and messing with it today on an old card seems like an exercise in frustration. Still it was very interesting to see your results. The card will make a nice addition to your collection.
It's eerie to think that in about a decade a 2080 Ti or 5700 XT won't be able to run new games, that and they'll probably require processors with a minimum of 8 physical cores
Fallout 4 working in Sanctuary with an old card, only a few dips when fighting a Radroach? Try Diamond City and let me know how that goes for you. (In all seriousness, very impressive that this card can even run modern titles with somewhat playable settings!)
I still use the lower end GTX 5 70 on an older PC with the Core 2 quad Q9550. I guess for some reason, they don't make dual GPU boards anymore. I guess games never really played nice with multiple GPUS.
I believe all this old tech will be here for a long time , and as they get rarer they will be probably on sale at most tech antique stores probably selling for thousands if not tens of thousands.
The small frame buffer caused this card issues when it launched so it's going to cause all matter of shit in 2020, this is why the HD6990 has aged slightly better as it has 25% more VRAM.
@@mapesdhs597 I'm using a Gainward 580 with games from 2019 , medium on 1080p with no suffers . I haven't had any issues with this card. My cpu is Phenom 1090t 6 core
@@oblivionlord1242 Anectodal comment isn't proof of anything. It depends on a whole host of factors, not least the game played, detail settings, CPU, resolution, RAM, and so on. Simply saying one has X and Y which does Z is meaningless. For many games indeed that configuration indeed will be fine, but for a great many others it will absolutely stink. I'm forced to infer you didn't read my post elsewhere before replying. Even a card with 3GB suffers with numerous modern titles, it depends on many factors. www.sgidepot.co.uk/sgi.html#PC
@@mapesdhs597 I give you the necessities? Cpu and gpu... you want me to say I have 8gb / 16gb RAM like most of you? Lmao. I'm on G.Skill 2x4gb 1600mhz overclocked to 1866. The games I've recently been playing are "A plagues tale". "RESIDENT EVIL 2 REMAKE", "Fallout 4" and the new "Modern Warfare 2019." The 1st 2 mentioned are completely medium 1080p with vsyc Stable 60fps... no drops, abnormalities. Fallout 4 I run at ultra... completely smooth at 1080p vsyc off. (Because its a less cinematic game) Modern warfare I average 70fps on medium 1080p vsync off... never dip under 60 and never get stutters (even if it is a new title) Your optimization for your 580 (if you ever owned one) must've been crap, or you never updated your drivers.
my laptop has duall gt750m 2gb cards in sli. forza horizon 4 supports sli, and even tho im under minimum specs i get a solid 30-45 fps whereas with sli disabled im lucky if it finishes the (roughly) 3 minute benchmark which reminds me quite a lot of the dirt 3 benchmark.
It's really weird the way the gpus have evolved. A 2011 top end card can't handle a 2015 game.But a mid range cards released in 2016 (Rx 580 & Gtx 1060) seem to handle the games released in 2020 pretty good.
Like me playing Wolcen and graphics nice, i was in awe and then when i for some reason wanted to change settings, realized it was all the time on LOW settings :), the game look amazing even on low, now i adjusted it, so play high, but still :) (in response of kingdom come looking good on low)
😭 I have built my system in 2009 but now is time give it an overhaul . - ASUS RE3 X - OCZ 1866mhz Reaper 12 gb - Velociraptor HDD ( used to the fastest but now is total outdated fossils) - Custom built water cooling system - GTX590 😭
Love your videos. Like the fact you test old hardware. I have an old toshiba satellite a505s6017. I'm not sure which gpu is the best fit for an egpu dock. I have heard that some cards won't display on the laptop screen, but only to an external monitor. Can you do a few videos on this subject? Thanks for the days of entertainment.
I had terrible stutter problems with my rx 580... First I thought that my R5 1400 is the problem so I overclocked it. Still the stutter remains... Then I reinstalled the drivers, it fixed the stutter is some games some of them faild to start completely than I did DDU then reinstalled every driver and it runs "perfectly". Can't overclock cause "global wattman" keeps crashing but it is amd vga drivers at it's natural form.
I had a GTX 560ti 2win and it kept up with the 590 for $600, only caveat was it was technically running in sli all the time so games without sli didn't do any better than a 560ti
I had two 7950 GX2 running SLI back in the day (technically quad SLI) and those cards were beastly, but not worth it when looking back. But it is all about developer support and drivers...
I bought the EVGA GTX 590 back in May of 2011 and I paid $749.99 for it. In fact, I just checked the invoice to make sure because the GTX 590 had an MSRP of either $699 or $729. I think the EVGA version had a slightly higher clock speed and they charged a little more for it.
Back then, EVGA used to have a Lifetime Warranty on their cards. My GTX 590 died in July of 2016 and EVGA replaced it with a GTX 970.
2011: 700$ for 2 top of the line gpu's
2020: 1200$ for 1 gpu
This is some apple level greed
R&D isn't cheap...
Well it´s called lack of competition and pretty much whole turing line up (both 20 and 16 series) has been quite dissapointing until they came out with "super" variants of each model that changed things a bit
Well, demand was high
Don't tell me that "rTx cArDs cOsT mOaR bEcAuSe oF tHe hUgE DiE SiZe" bullshit, we all know it costs 50$ tops to nvidia to produce a 2080ti
Talha Saraç lol, I guess we now know how much you know about GPU manufacturing.
If you want a big chip GPU I hear used 580s and 590s are really cheap on the used market. Sadly I don’t know of a single consumer GPU before the 2080ti with a chip that big. Even the 28 core Xeon processors (single chip unlike Threadripper and Epyc) is smaller.
Oh my god, I've been hoping you'd cover this card at some point. It was my dream card back in the day.
My 1080 is laughing at me as I say this.
tell your 1080 to pipe the fuck down it wont be laughing in 2028
Now you've hurt it's feelings.
@@mordekai_wilde we love all cards
@@richardkavanagh8835 Well that was brutal but what If I say that It is going to happen much sooner most probably by the end of 2022.
1080 would struggle to push 60 FPS at 1080p High settings and would become more like the today's 1060 by then.
@@gaunterodimm7219 considering I run games at 1440p with a mix of high and ultra and get a solid 75fps (vsync locked) in most games, I think it'll be a little longer than 2022, the 1080 is still overkill for 1080p gaming. ^^
That angel on the "wrap" ads 10 fps to every game
legend says the angel will grant you more fps but only if you pray..."oh angel of plentiful fps please lend me your divine fps bonus"
But RGB adds 16,86million FPS more
It reminds me of Deus ex
divine fps gains
did they just put zyzz on a gpu?
Oohhh man, that's just beautiful, I wish I can buy one soon as well, love these dual GPUs ^^
zWORMz Gaming hey didn’t know you watched rginhd as well
Lol yo zworms xD
This and GTX 480 can cause global warming.
2080 ti consume more
@@Mike_Michael1 HD 6990
@@PsychoCaki HD 7990 :p
R9 290X
@@HappyBeezerStudios GTX 690 has one fan.
"entering to the history mode ended in disaster"
Says while he mindlessly murders the Arthur by walking off a cliff
It would be cool if they’d still build SLI cards on a single board!
The problem is that SLI cards in general are dead.
@Anton Babani a 2080 ti is never going to outperform 2 2080 ti in sli. unless your comparing 1 new card to 2 cards that are not the same as the first one, which destroys any parallel that could possibly be drawn from their differing performance levels. thats called a controlled variable.
They might on next gen gpus
@Anton Babani well... Crossfire is very unsupported, but SLI still has decent gains, even in games that don't officially support it...
2x 2070 Supers nearly always outperform a single 2080 ti
since dual graphics card solutions are sorta dying, I feel like it would be easier to support to double the die size of a single gpu (so a RTX 2090 ti or something like that will have a 2080 ti chip but double the specs)
Top end gpu in 2011: $699
Top end gpu in 2020: $2489 (titan RTX)
Why tho
Probably because of Fed Reserve bank is constantly printing money. 2011 2 bedroom house = 240k. 2020 2 bedroom house = 315k.
@@omrirotcod7035 its called inflation😂
Largest money scam on earth.
@@omrirotcod7035 hah such low inflation and you're complaining.
2011: $1 = R$ 1,80
2020: $1 = R$ 4,65
my money lost a two thirds of its worth compared to the dollar in that time. it fucking sucks.
entry level cars doubled in price. used to be R$ 25k now they start at R$ 55k or something.
From inflation the 590 would be around $900. Still a far cry from what 2080ti cards go for
RandomGaminginHD, Budget Builds Official and Dawid does Tech Stuff on the same day!? Magnifiqué.
We're subbed to the same people, cool
add Bitwit , JayZtwoCent , Nexus Gamers and DigitalFoundry and you've got the wining seven tech channel on UA-cam
@@offlinegamer6756 *Gamers Nexus plus linus and austin are better than budget builds official and DigitalFoundry
@@RealCobby austin, yes linus no.
@@offlinegamer6756
Don't forget Jay's tech vault, and the low spec gamer
Anyone else diggin the content lately? Good work man! Keep it up! On your way to 500k subs and I’m one of em!!
imagine Nvidia goes to the 6900 series and revives the 90 series for the memes
Nvidia RTX 6969 Ti-Super-Ultra
only $6969
Bet that card would've been ultra hot
Maybe in 10 years there will be a 60 series who knows
Dilet the Thunderbolt Pilot nice
@@Nightmare-kt3tu And it'll only cost you a second mortgage.
@@ultrademigod True. The price for the RTX 2080ti is already ridiculous.
"Far Cry 2 for me is one of the best in the series" Finally someone who agrees with me.
pretty much everybody agrees except those that only play AAA titles, and Ubisoft. that particular game engine is still locked because of it.
@Crescent Moon definately not 3, everything looks cell shaded with the fxaa and all the guns sound like someone banging on a trashcan
@Crescent Moon i have no idea how it looked on ps3, but on pc it looked far too cartoony
@Crescent Moon the graphics i could forgive, but the sound absolutely not, far cry 2 had real to life sounds, the ak makes that crunching sound, the m16/m4/ar(or whatever) makes a good "pop" and the mounted .50 cal is dead on, when using a sound system i set ptsd off with that in the mornings in iraq, its that real. ntmtf that close range blood spray is extremly accurate and the fact that the grenades are also true to life. real grenades dont throw fireballs, its a boom and a feint cloud of smoke/dust that you can still easily see through usually
@Crescent Moon sure no one cares, except you continue to comment about it. i understand that because you fall into the idocracy. talking about farcry 3 being a better game when the final boss was the same as the first except less interesting. as opposed to going against the factions, environment and even your allies in the end of a game called "farcry." id be willing to bet you never even played through farcry 2 to the finish. next you'll say assassins creed revelations was better than assassins creed 2
I miss the days of dual GPUs.
i'm still usin one and it's doin just fine ig
@Shit Kicker why was it a thing in the first place? The hardware is more than capable of running the games.
@Shit Kicker how do you know? Sauce?
My wallet doesn't
Keelan try running above console frame rates at 4k, let me know how that goes on a single card... Oh, btw they have 120 Hz 4k monitors, yeah even duel Titan RTX will crap it’s pants before getting even close to that, lol, hardware won’t ever keep up, somebody will just make higher resolution or faster monitor frequencies (like my 240 Hz monitor which is freaken awesome vs 120), or they will make better visuals (like that crappy fail of ray tracing, lol, not even counting that because it’s not even realistic to run on a 2080ti even at low res, but it kinda proves the point that developers will try to use whatever they can to make that game a more mind blowing or fun experience. Kind of like 3d games opened up a whole new storytelling dimension over older 2d games which were already leaps and bounds more interactive than text based games, which yes I have played on my dads old DOS machine ;) (I may have triple 4k monitors and run quad GPU, but I can dig the old retro games, pretty fun even if you have 1 color which is based when you choose the monitor and the operating system is on the old actually physically floppy paperlike floppy disks, still fun, but man have the games changed! And they will keep changing like VR has shown (where you really want 120Hz, and that’s needing 2 screens at 120Hz, and you’d probably want 4k if you could run it... so yeah, we are still way behind on hardware at 60 Hz 4k let alone that!)
I'm getting gtx 580 on tuesday. I can compare them later by myself. It will probably be faster in non-sli titles, better cooling etc. I love these videos. Thank you and keep up the good work. :)
I tried Far Cry 5. It wasn't that bad almost all time over 30 fps. But it crashed couple times :D Then I tried Far Cry 3 max settings still over 60.
I have the 2.5gb “Quadro” equivalent to the 580 I use as a test GPU and it’s pretty crazy to see the difference the extra V-ram makes
When you can buy a 670 for $30 it makes this card worth about $12.50 lol.
Link ?
I still have my 550ti laying around' good times
i have my 560Ti still in use
I still use my 550ti
Gtx750 here :(
@@hypermaniksk534 big oof
That was my first card. Ended up selling it after less than a year and upgrading to a 2.5GB GTX570.
The biggest thing that i am sure holding this card back was the 1.5 of Vram. Ran everything maxed 1080p till Rise of the TR came out. Still love this card. I had bought 3 over the years used from ebay. First one i got lasted about 2 years that i got for 450 cuz it was only like 1 year old, till 1 of the gpus died . So replaced it with a pair for about 330ish cuz the 690 was still about 500 used and the 7 series wasnt out yet i think. So I ran 2 cards for Quad ! SLI ! . Sorry I still like to say it. Till about 1 1/2 years ago when I was able to get a used 1070ti for about 250. I had them paired with a new 9600k system and it was great at first. When winter came I would move them to an open case and put my monitor ontop so the exhaust would keep me warm. Let me tell you guys if never experienced hot cards like these, they really really move lots of hot air. I wonder if they still work now. Gonna have to pull them off my wall for a trail run : ) Oh one more thing. Every time I tell people I use a 1600 watt psu, and they ask why the hell you need so much, I always say, Used to have 2 GTX 590s .....
Nigel, watching your YT channel is like wearing a warm cardigan on a cold winter evening while sitting on a couch with a blanket on your knees and sipping on a hot cup of Earl Grey.
the outer worlds' optimization is out of this world
I see what you did there o3o
I had the EVGA GTX 590 but it died after 5 years. The earlier versions of this card have a flaw with the power deliver system that caused the card to burn up after 2-3 years. I figured the only reason my GTX 590 lasted as long as it did is because it ended up in my daughter's system and she played nothing but MMORPG games that don't use SLI.
Thanks to EVGA placing a Lifetime warranty on 500-series and older cards, I got a GTX 970 in return. In other forums I saw that some people got an EVGA GTX 780ti reference card in exchanged for their dead GTX 590.
On another note, with these old SLI setups it was a Rule of Thumb to run DDU (called Driver Sweeper back then) then reinstall the drivers.
Watching it on 8800GTX, dreaming about GTX 460 from year 2010. Thinking about getting it in 2020 finally and upgrading graphic card. Saying "Welcome Fermi".
i really don't UNDERSTAND how in the world you've only got 326 K subscribers , you deserve more , keep on the good work mate, wish you the One millions very soon
I used a GTX 590 until about 18 months ago. It still games quite well, the only downside is that it doesn't have enough VRAM. Other than that it performs between a 1050 and 1050 Ti.
I played Fallout 4 on ultra 1440p and it ran well enough, but it was obvious that the VRAM ran out a lot. Textures were sometimes super blurry. Ended up switching to an RX580.
Btw, the TDP on a GTX590 is an insane 285 Watt.
My buddy gave me his old gaming rig back in 2014. Had this card and a 2700k. It was how I played Skyrim for the first time. He kept telling me I'd need to upgrade asap, but I ran games on that rig for years without too much fuss.
How about adding Witcher 3 into the benchmark mix? That game is surprisingly not demanding in terms of VRAM, may be interesting for GPUs of Fermi era..
You should review two Geforce 7950 GX2 cards in quad SLI! Make sure you use driver version 285.62 (or the equivalent for the os you are using) because newer ones have major issues in source engine games. You can also add SLI profile support to the older drivers by using nvidia inspector and saving the master profile from the newer drivers and then editing the older drivers and copying the profiles to it and importing. They are a beast for older games even up to 2013's tomb raider. I recommend not using windows xp as windows 7 provides better scaling and isn't limited to 2 GB of ram
This card came out in March 24, 2011
So pretty darn amazing that it runs Fallout 4 around 50 fps
thats true but fallout is 5 years old now... O.O so its like using cards from 4years ago today. that would be 1080ti or 1080 for comparison i guess in games released in 2020
I want one... I Still have a 480 in Service in one of my older setups and... The 590 is just Beautiful and Nonsensly Powerful... i want it...
As "obselete" as the 590 is, it's still miles better than my damn HD5450 ☹️
I was never too much into PCs in 2011, was all ps3. crazy how far its come now but I got my first gaming pc with a 3080 in it. Glad I waited until now cruising at 4k ultra
The casing of the 590 looks like re-used GTX 295 single PCB casing with screws instead of those annoying clips that used to break off and cards in excess of 250w tend to cook themselves to an early grave...a lot. Since SLI on a stick has to share the pcie slot bandwidth with half the extra heat dumped inside the case and a high electricity bill of running two fermi's makes a gtx 590 little sense today and more of a fascinating ornament.
do the HD6950 2gb
i miss mine. One of my all-time best purchases. bought it cheap and sold it for pretty much the same price 4 years later.
Remember this, you can always force SLI in any game.
Some parts of HUD in the game can blink from time to time, but it will work nicely.
@@MrSnek actually, forcing SLI never made any problem for me, and I got 60+ fps on my games.
This card was my wet dream back in 2011 :)
I had the Ati Radeon 4870x2 at that time.
Lmao ikr I had a gts 450 at the time and I wanted the 590 sooooooo badly
Lucky, back then I didn't even have a PC or anything, now I have a GTX 1060 and i5-8400, soo good
Still got a 4870 around.
And I totally want to do something with it.
Maybe I get a 2nd one and make some crossfire
@@HappyBeezerStudios I still have my 4870x2 in my old rig. Sadly I can't clean it up because I messed up the screws :(
The screws on the card?
It’s kinda amazing they sold so many dual GPUs without fixing the inherent issues with frame pacing.
Did you get that from CEX? I traded in my angelwrap gtx 590 to Leeds CEX like a month or so ago and Im pretty sure thats the one I traded in haha
Why is it that you can get that card for so little pounds but in the us it cost about 70 to 80 dollars still
If your brain isn't working I'll explain it for you. British pounds and U.S dollars have different Worth's for lack of a better term. You need to think about the exchange rates between the two currencies
@@IamJay02 you are the dumbass here boy the card in the video cost 35 pounds which is 45 dollars in american I have seen these cards for 70 and above you idiot if your gonna make such a stupid comment do your fucking research god dammit
@@donottouch9110 pretty much luck. Most second hand sellers from where I live will try to make the most money out of what they have from selling. If you're lucky you'll run across someone who just wants to get rid of their old crap by selling really cheap
I remember the announcement of DX12 mgpu when I had these in quad sli. I was so excited for the vram combining capabilities. 3GB of vram on these would take them much further . If look at tomshardware gpu hierarchy they were on par performance with 680 and beaten by a 770 4GB version and not by to many frames. Looking at those 2 cards, they have more vram. It took the 780 to really dominate it by at least 20fps. Now, the mistake I regret was owning these and not the GTX 690. With only 4GBs of vram was like owning 980 that only had 6GBs. Objections ?
I bought this card couple years back from a collector. NOS stock.
Thermal paste was untouch, packaging was sealed.
Damn worth the price of equivalent 140USD.
Bought it just for gigs and well, collector stuff.
A friend of mine is still gaming on an AMD Phenom II x6 1075T with an Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB and it has had no issues. Granted, he plays at 1920x1080 but those few times he has bumped up to 2560x1440 he still has not had any issues really to speak of. This all said, he plays mostly games from before and just after the era those components were top dog for AMD, but it is also funny to me that with those older parts he can still play games that look better than what is out on the current consoles. And does so without any on the fly changes to overall resolution like the consoles have to use to be "4k".
I wonder how this card stands up to the 7950 released one month after 2011? Still blows my mind how good that GPU still is.
Only 5 series I had was the 560Ti like everyone else, still did great but was quickly in need of an upgrade. GPUs last so much longer these days.
I sold my friend a pc with a gtx 1060
He said he wanted the pc fresh so remove everything
So I factory restarted it, we where sort on time I help him set it up get steam downloading and some games right before we left for the weekend
I told him you need to download the drives sent him a how to video and the link to nivida
A few months later we were playing mordhau and he said the game just didn’t run well on his pc, so I asked are the drives up to date?
He ask how do I check.
Told him go to GeForce experience on windows
He said he didn’t have it 😐
So for months he was playing his games with no drives barely getting any FPS lol 😆
I used GTX 580 SLI for a fair while, but at some point I upgraded to the 3GB versions which really helped. I thought at the time it was a shame that the 590 only utilised the 1.5GB configuration.
4:40 - Exactly. I loved using 580 3GB SLI because of this, it made a huge difference to playing Oblivion, FC2, Crysis, Warhead and Crysis2 (I didn't bother with Crysis3).
Note that I am certain at some point something changed with NVIDIA's drivers in a way which crippled SLI in older games. I keep finding some older games with newer drivers hit a frame rate limit, producing weird results. Older drivers didn't do this. At some point I want to go through every driver to try and work out when it changed, but certainly for older games you may well find better performance and behaviour by using XP with an older driver such as 314.22, though of course for DX11 one needs something newer than XP. I should mention though that eventually upgrading to a single GTX 980 did run a lot better than 580 SLI.
Numerous results here (scroll down for the older tests, ie. FC2, Stalker COP, X3TC, etc.):
www.sgidepot.co.uk/sgi.html#PC
I just bought a 5700 XT... but before that I owned a GTX 670 with 4GB (kinda rare) and I was suprised how "good" it still handles modern games! (even its single GPU)
Still have a 690 in one of the computers in the house. Had a pair of 580's before that. Didn't see a reason to upgrade till I bought a 1080Ti. And not ready to upgrade just yet. Maybe when the next gen RTX or RDNA2 cards come out.
Despite driver support lacking it's not completely awful. Power is decent. Just the lack of support certainly hurts it
my first gaming gpu was a gtx 295 which came out in january 2009 and the best money could buy, and this 590 built on the same two-gpu basis came out in march 2011 its funny how an entire generation (400 series) was squeezed in the 2 year time frame between that. talk about gpus getting obsolete quickly..
the sandwiched high performance gpus never aged well and werent good purchases. new features like direct x 12 came out and they couldnt run it, but then new features come out all the time, gimping older high end cards like dlss 3 and the 3090ti not being able to make use of it.
Dual GPU graphics cards are a great monument to the hubris of man. Something something "Could" vs something something "Should".
Great video! Love what you do, keep it up!
I had a 470 back then I and drooled for this :)
What I love most about your vids is the shark cleaner in the background!
Man ive been watching you for awhile, keep up the vids love em. Soon ill have a collection like you do.
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i got a 690 still :D
better than my dual gt750m laptop.
Nolan Heistad well yeah, haha, but laptops have gotten better (like my GTX1070 mobile is outbenching overclocked desktop 1070 thanks to its extra CUDA cores which is closer to 1070ti). Now they are also super thin and light (mine is in a super thin MSI GP63, so it’s like an inch thick including its 120 Hz screen, so thinner and lighter than my trusty old HP duel core i5 with integrated potato graphics). But desktop in every other case takes the win, and the 1070 is the only model Nvidia has probably ever made where the mobile is better, all other times desktop is better and usually by a LOT! The older gen they just pretty much slapped “Titan” or “xx80ti” on a 1030 and called it mobile “m” suffix, but heck even the 1070 is confusing because they have the really $hitty Max-Q (which sounds good, like maybe that’s the one you want having max performance, but no it’s really the MIN performance version with a TDP so low a hamster could push more power than it could before power throttling...)
Anyways it probably helps that I tuned this ones voltage vs frequency curve myself for hours and hours (it wasn’t like the time I tuned memory for no joke 36 grueling hours before I swore I’d never do it again and then like a year later In looking at some EXOC sticks and just barely restraining saying “remember last time...” and snapping out of it). Anyways, it is just edging out what I consider a decent desktop 1070 overclock (minus circuitry mods, so it’s fair unmodded vs unmodded). Good laptop if you get them used for a deal, just swap the crappy HDD and SATA SSD and toss in a 3-3.5 GB/s M.2 NVME (~28 Gbps rated read and 24+ Gbps write speed) just so if you’ve got fast 100 Mbps or Gigabit Ethernet that it keeps up with your steam games updating (I live in the US, so most places have horrid internet like 1.5 Mbps, but McDonnalds has an insane 250 Mbps WiFi so I go there a lot and my battery wouldn’t last a weeks worth of game updates if it couldn’t keep up, lol!)
I do love multi-GPU though, works great for me on my crossfire Radeon cards, love it! And duel GPU just looks so cool but I haven’t bought one as a wall decoration piece yet though I totally should because they look so cool!
@@nolanheistad2526 Lol I used to game on a laptop with a GT750m. I built a desktop with a GTX 1070 and my lord, it was a huge jump.
365 TDP with one fan and almost full shroud. Magic.
Its fun seeing three dvi ports on a card. my 2080 doesnt have a single dvi port
I used to have 570’s in SLI and not all games supported it. Then I upgraded to the 680 and it outperformed the 570’s by quite a bit. Good times
The old Fermi cards still have some life in them if they're still working. They'll play ARK and 7 Days to Die. That's good enough for me.
The problem I find with these older cards(and I literally have boxes of previous gen high end GPU's) isnt even primarily the performance. When you are marketing a system, it has to be worth a certain amount to justify certain parts. These old high end GPU's would be great in budget builds in many cases, BUT.... they very often need the high value power supply that I would put in something like a nice X99 build, which often is enough to tip the balance of numbers against them
I almost bought one of these. Changed my mind and got SLI EVGA 3 GB 580s instead. Very smart move, the extra VRAM was a necessity for 3D Surround gaming R.I.P. Also, the 590 is takes a big performance hit vs two cards due to its much lower core clock and thermal limitations. Not to mention the fact I heard about a lot of failures due to over heating
I'd love to display that on a shelf, but wouldn't be interested in using it today. SLI in general was always a pain, and messing with it today on an old card seems like an exercise in frustration. Still it was very interesting to see your results. The card will make a nice addition to your collection.
i had 2 of these evga hydro copper (water block) cards in my customer water cooled pc in sli (quad sli), good times...
We come along way with pc gaming what a time to be alive with a 2080ti i9900k both overclocked playing on 1440p 165 refresh monitor I feel blessed :)
It's eerie to think that in about a decade a 2080 Ti or 5700 XT won't be able to run new games, that and they'll probably require processors with a minimum of 8 physical cores
I do love my 580 but it's an absolute chonker in consumption, size, and heat. Two of them? Send help...
I kinda miss designs of old GPU with their colors and pictures.
I don't know if 1080p was all that popular back then. 720p or 900p may have been a better choice
Fallout 4 working in Sanctuary with an old card, only a few dips when fighting a Radroach?
Try Diamond City and let me know how that goes for you.
(In all seriousness, very impressive that this card can even run modern titles with somewhat playable settings!)
I still use the lower end GTX 5 70 on an older PC with the Core 2 quad Q9550. I guess for some reason, they don't make dual GPU boards anymore. I guess games never really played nice with multiple GPUS.
YOOOO "Dawid Does Tech Stuff" gave u a shout out in one of his recent videos!!!
I thought it was the RX 590 for a sec 🤣
hell no
This 590 GPU is faster than a GTX 1650 (Turing) by like 10-12% 1080p ULTRA.
So this GPU should be about $150 today used. It's a collectors.
I believe all this old tech will be here for a long time , and as they get rarer they will be probably on sale at most tech antique stores probably selling for thousands if not tens of thousands.
The small frame buffer caused this card issues when it launched so it's going to cause all matter of shit in 2020, this is why the HD6990 has aged slightly better as it has 25% more VRAM.
3gb vram was not the issue
@@oblivionlord1242 Actually it was; I've tested both types of GTX 580 extensively, I bought many of each. See my detailed post elsewhere here.
@@mapesdhs597 I'm using a Gainward 580 with games from 2019 , medium on 1080p with no suffers . I haven't had any issues with this card. My cpu is Phenom 1090t 6 core
@@oblivionlord1242 Anectodal comment isn't proof of anything. It depends on a whole host of factors, not least the game played, detail settings, CPU, resolution, RAM, and so on. Simply saying one has X and Y which does Z is meaningless. For many games indeed that configuration indeed will be fine, but for a great many others it will absolutely stink. I'm forced to infer you didn't read my post elsewhere before replying. Even a card with 3GB suffers with numerous modern titles, it depends on many factors.
www.sgidepot.co.uk/sgi.html#PC
@@mapesdhs597 I give you the necessities? Cpu and gpu... you want me to say I have 8gb / 16gb RAM like most of you? Lmao. I'm on G.Skill 2x4gb 1600mhz overclocked to 1866. The games I've recently been playing are "A plagues tale". "RESIDENT EVIL 2 REMAKE", "Fallout 4" and the new "Modern Warfare 2019." The 1st 2 mentioned are completely medium 1080p with vsyc Stable 60fps... no drops, abnormalities. Fallout 4 I run at ultra... completely smooth at 1080p vsyc off. (Because its a less cinematic game)
Modern warfare I average 70fps on medium 1080p vsync off... never dip under 60 and never get stutters (even if it is a new title)
Your optimization for your 580 (if you ever owned one) must've been crap, or you never updated your drivers.
I guess you could say it had TWO many issues...
my laptop has duall gt750m 2gb cards in sli. forza horizon 4 supports sli, and even tho im under minimum specs i get a solid 30-45 fps whereas with sli disabled im lucky if it finishes the (roughly) 3 minute benchmark which reminds me quite a lot of the dirt 3 benchmark.
It's really weird the way the gpus have evolved. A 2011 top end card can't handle a 2015 game.But a mid range cards released in 2016 (Rx 580 & Gtx 1060) seem to handle the games released in 2020 pretty good.
RGinHD: "You are late"
Me: "Yes..."
Like me playing Wolcen and graphics nice, i was in awe and then when i for some reason wanted to change settings, realized it was all the time on LOW settings :), the game look amazing even on low, now i adjusted it, so play high, but still :) (in response of kingdom come looking good on low)
980 is starting to do this now. Its wonderful. 980 is still steaming along just fine (in games that are optimised)
2:23 the lamp and vacuum make a much welcome appearance for anyone wondering :)
If you use 2x 590s with 2-way SLI it's technically 4-way SLI.
😭 I have built my system in 2009 but now is time give it an overhaul .
- ASUS RE3 X
- OCZ 1866mhz Reaper 12 gb
- Velociraptor HDD ( used to the fastest but now is total outdated fossils)
- Custom built water cooling system
- GTX590 😭
You should test the r9 390x2. It has a tdp of 580 watts and it was also amd’s competitor to the 980 ti
Love your videos. Like the fact you test old hardware. I have an old toshiba satellite a505s6017. I'm not sure which gpu is the best fit for an egpu dock. I have heard that some cards won't display on the laptop screen, but only to an external monitor. Can you do a few videos on this subject? Thanks for the days of entertainment.
I had terrible stutter problems with my rx 580... First I thought that my R5 1400 is the problem so I overclocked it. Still the stutter remains... Then I reinstalled the drivers, it fixed the stutter is some games some of them faild to start completely than I did DDU then reinstalled every driver and it runs "perfectly". Can't overclock cause "global wattman" keeps crashing but it is amd vga drivers at it's natural form.
Got Nvidia GTX 970 series for 4 yrs now and its got still excelent performance even on new games.
Nice video! Keep it up as always mate 😊
I had a GTX 560ti 2win and it kept up with the 590 for $600, only caveat was it was technically running in sli all the time so games without sli didn't do any better than a 560ti
I had two 7950 GX2 running SLI back in the day (technically quad SLI) and those cards were beastly, but not worth it when looking back. But it is all about developer support and drivers...
I still have my 690 in a backup PC. Thing still handles triple A titles at 1080.
Still got my ASUS 590. Even got plastic still on;p
Loved the art Gpu's had back in the day .. They can bring it back if it up too me
I thought it was ugly. Current founders edition models are looking amazing if you ask me.
Alwats turn off shadows that will give you the most FPS Boost. That the first thing i turn off when sub 60fps.
I had all the radeon dual gpu's 4890x2,5970,6990,7990,r9 295x2
Can you use Heaven Benchmark 4.0 for old GPUs its a very good Benchmark
The 590 was the BEAST