its because of the unified core architecture and how it handles graphics.without going into serious technical detail its why old ass cards like the 8800gt were able to run new games despite its lack of dx11 and 12 but nothing before it like the 7000 series from nvidia wouldnt be able to run anything cause its based on pipelines and not the core architecture. its also why the 360 performs better in all the games they released for the 360 and ps3 together.ps3 uses pipelines and the 360 uses unified core architecture
@@gamalielgarcia3742 simply put unified cores are multiple small cores on the GPU and they can be used for various taksks where needed,Pipelines in older graphics cards use fixed function pupelines like vertex shaders,geometry shaders,pixel shaders and pipelines and some others.Problem is they are fixed function units.So if a game doesnt use vertex shaders then that part of the card is idle.Unified cores can do all of that and arent fixed to one function.I guess a good way to put it is think of a team of 10 men pushing a log up a hill evenly spread out,If they hit a bump on one side 4 of them can go and lend assistance with the heavier load(unified cores) as pipelines the men cant move and have to stay in place and wait for them to struggle with the heavier load. Its a stupid analysis but its basically how unified cores work.They can assist with anything universally in game various graphical effects and put to best use.its what they are talking about when they talk about CUDA cores and AMD calls them shader cores or sometimes just refers to them as cores
@Stormy Lol All the high power cpu does is make sure that the gpu can be used 2 its fullest potential. The video is dedicated 2 testing the gpu and how much performance it can bring 2 the table. Which is why he is making sure there are no cpu bottlenecks for the benchmarks.
@Stormy Lol I understand that. But I was surprised by the games that are not cpu based. Also cpu usage never went over 20% In valorant anyways so plenty of mid-ranged cpus would still hit similar fps anyways.
The most likely reason for the lack of full utilization of fermi hardware, under RDR2, is because the GPU pipeline is continually stalled due to continuous memory transfer operations, thank to the substantially limited vram. This is made worse by being bandwidth constrained to PCIe 2.0.
These old top graphics cards are grossly underrated in my opinion. Their video chips still have enough power to compete with more modern budget video cards. But they have two major drawbacks: very old drivers and little memory. I myself own the old HD5870 and when the memory overflows, the performance drops by 2-3 times. This seems to be what we are seeing in this video, I think the difference in different games is much greater than in other video cards with a large amount of memory.
I think AMD dropped support for HD5/6000 series a bit early. I still finished Rise of the Tomb Raider with my HD6870 and tried Battlefield 1 beta and it gave me good enough performance.
Ah the good old GTX 470 😃😄 One Winter I remember testing an overclock using Furmark, it got to around 105c and was soldiering on like a champ! 🤭😂😅 Kept me lovely in warm while playing games very late at night though 👍😜 Upgraded to a GTX1060 about half a decade later. Many lovely warm Winter game sessions. What a gem 😉
I love it so much watching those old/er GPUs being benchmarked !! More or less , about new GPUs we can guess how they will perform , but seeing how these old & legendary GPUs perform today , takes the nostalgia-hype in a whole new level !!! --P.S. I own a GTX460 and a GTS450 but never owned a GTX470 , so thanks Kryzzp !!
Not that it would help anyone looking to game seriously with GPU that no longer have official driver support, but I recently cobbled together an old Core2 Duo system that had a GT8400 inside as a graphics card and installed Linux on it (Debian based). The official drivers were 370.0 something, very old and outdated at this point, and I tried playing some 2-D indie games like Streets Of Rogue, Enter The Gungeon etc. and there were literally graphics glitches and artifacts on the screen. I decided to to try out the open source Noveu drivers as they were much more recent. And those ended up fixing most of the graphical glitches with the 2-D indie titles. So what I'm trying to say is that it may be worth a shot to use a Linux distro with an outdated card like this using the open source drivers.
quite surprised how well BF1 is optimized, i remember i tried Open beta with my GTX 770 in 2016 and it could only run medium with 50fps~, surprised that 470 can run it at low 60, that's impressive
@@lombredeshakuras1481 Technically it could be even better, but in most titles the driver support and the fact 1050 2gb is a lot newer may tip scales in favor for it. In older titles it's a different story, maybe. However, in the current market likely you'll get a 670 a lot cheaper.
Well, the remasters look a little nicer, but also run better too, so the old cards should play them nicely. That's if they don't crash because of architecture or some shit Here's the old Crysis Warhead absolutely maxed out at 1080p if you're interested, a little laggy at times because of the FRAPS recorder and the antialiasing is maxed out too - ua-cam.com/video/TXnAeAaK-mo/v-deo.html
Battlefield 1 performance was very impressive. I have a GTX 470 sitting in-front of me, I'm going to build a temporary PC while my Zephyrus G14 is in for repairs hahah
Kinda strange how the GTX 470 couldn't launch God of War. It's probably driver related to that one, as God of War actually uses Direct X 11. But yeah, I have an EVGA GTX 470 laying around. Tested a while back. it's quite impressive still. At least Metro Exodus is playable on it too.
@Unknown Nomad But even DX11.1 is supported by this GPU. DX11.1 was mainly a software side update anyway. But AFAIk GOW has issues even on newer GTX600 series. It behaves like it's a DX12 game. Weird.
I bought one from second hand a week ago for 40 AZN (20-30 USD) and it was overheating like hell I did everything replaced thermal paste both Heatsink and IHS cleaned the heatsink lubricated the fan and maxed out the fan power still it overheated and shut down after playing game for few mins, I sold it for 55 AZN (30-40 USD) I actually did profit from it but still, Fermi is **HELL** was a nice experience never gonna forget.
I love your content i really wish you would get an Alienare Alpha R1 and test it. make sure you get i7 with 16 gigs of ram though and ssd still seems pretty good this day
I used to have a GTX 460m a long time ago, it worked but it eventually just fried it self because of how hot it kept getting. Like the motherboard had burn marks around the GPU chip.
I still have my msi twin frozr gtx 470 mounted on intel core i5 760, 4x2gb g skill ripjaws 1333mhz ddr3 & asus p7p55d-e pro since 2009 (i'm writing this from here). To be honest, I don't play videogames anymore but I remember that gtx 470 could run crysis 2 fine.. regards from argentina.
You are the king of benchmark business, you are the best channel, I love you so much with your humor and attitude, it's very nice of you to write your game selections and settings one by one. you are the best man in the industry💖💖
This is pretty good performance for a card that released over a decade ago
its because of the unified core architecture and how it handles graphics.without going into serious technical detail its why old ass cards like the 8800gt were able to run new games despite its lack of dx11 and 12 but nothing before it like the 7000 series from nvidia wouldnt be able to run anything cause its based on pipelines and not the core architecture. its also why the 360 performs better in all the games they released for the 360 and ps3 together.ps3 uses pipelines and the 360 uses unified core architecture
@@kyles8524 uhh what
@@gamalielgarcia3742 simply put unified cores are multiple small cores on the GPU and they can be used for various taksks where needed,Pipelines in older graphics cards use fixed function pupelines like vertex shaders,geometry shaders,pixel shaders and pipelines and some others.Problem is they are fixed function units.So if a game doesnt use vertex shaders then that part of the card is idle.Unified cores can do all of that and arent fixed to one function.I guess a good way to put it is think of a team of 10 men pushing a log up a hill evenly spread out,If they hit a bump on one side 4 of them can go and lend assistance with the heavier load(unified cores) as pipelines the men cant move and have to stay in place and wait for them to struggle with the heavier load. Its a stupid analysis but its basically how unified cores work.They can assist with anything universally in game various graphical effects and put to best use.its what they are talking about when they talk about CUDA cores and AMD calls them shader cores or sometimes just refers to them as cores
you know why? bus width
@@SHUTENSEPC i think you mean bandwidth lol, bus width has nothing to do with it
It honestly impresses me how long some Nvidia GPUs last.
It will last until Microsoft Updates says "DIE!!!"
say that to my 2009 i5-750. still overclockable.
@@Ghastify is it worse than my i3 2120?
You have a gtx 560
@@mudryy_ovash69 710’s architecture is better
I did not imagine that this card would perform this well. 😳
Neither did I, especially in battlefield 1, damn... 😯
@Stormy Lol are you actually serious?
@Stormy Lol All the high power cpu does is make sure that the gpu can be used 2 its fullest potential. The video is dedicated 2 testing the gpu and how much performance it can bring 2 the table. Which is why he is making sure there are no cpu bottlenecks for the benchmarks.
@Stormy Lol I understand that. But I was surprised by the games that are not cpu based. Also cpu usage never went over 20% In valorant anyways so plenty of mid-ranged cpus would still hit similar fps anyways.
@Stormy Lol you have no idea what you're talking about. Even an old 3rd gen i7 would fully utilize the GTX 470. Maybe even older than that too.
I really miss the days when mid-high end GPUs used to cost MSRP and at a decent price 😭
Buy a founders edition graphics card 😈🤣
@@RTeditz24 they're all being scalped as well, not worth it.
@@memenation5105 i subbed you
@@RTeditz24 thanks, but why?
@@memenation5105 i don,t know 😂😂😂😂😂😂 just chillllll lol🤣
For Fortnite - the tree bugs happen with any card, in performance mode. It's a LOD bug, and a workaround is to set the render distance to Epic.
The most likely reason for the lack of full utilization of fermi hardware, under RDR2, is because the GPU pipeline is continually stalled due to continuous memory transfer operations, thank to the substantially limited vram. This is made worse by being bandwidth constrained to PCIe 2.0.
18:57 nice reflex🔥
These old top graphics cards are grossly underrated in my opinion. Their video chips still have enough power to compete with more modern budget video cards. But they have two major drawbacks: very old drivers and little memory. I myself own the old HD5870 and when the memory overflows, the performance drops by 2-3 times. This seems to be what we are seeing in this video, I think the difference in different games is much greater than in other video cards with a large amount of memory.
I think AMD dropped support for HD5/6000 series a bit early. I still finished Rise of the Tomb Raider with my HD6870 and tried Battlefield 1 beta and it gave me good enough performance.
😊
19:04 kryzzp this is also what happens when I use performance mode on my 3060 ti, so it is not the issue of the old gpu.
I think the fix for that is setting the textures to higher or smth, idk that fixed it for me atleast
Same here with GTX 960 4GB.
You have to set the textures to high/epic on performance mode to fix that. I have a 3060 Ti as well.
@@arnavjoshi7047 nah put epic render distance
You got a 3060ti 🥺
Zwormz: *Throws poop*
Dilophosaur: *UNO REVERSE CARD*
Ah the good old GTX 470 😃😄
One Winter I remember testing an overclock using Furmark, it got to around 105c and was soldiering on like a champ! 🤭😂😅
Kept me lovely in warm while playing games very late at night though 👍😜
Upgraded to a GTX1060 about half a decade later. Many lovely warm Winter game sessions. What a gem 😉
3:00 after seeing this 480p looks like 4k lol
Im impressed for a gpu that old.
this is awesome to see, the 470 was in my own first PC build and I've come here just after getting a 4070. Crazy how the times fly.
I think I'm addicted to your videos .
Fire videos as always
Thanks 😁
I love it so much watching those old/er GPUs being benchmarked !!
More or less , about new GPUs we can guess how they will perform , but seeing how these old & legendary GPUs perform today , takes the nostalgia-hype in a whole new level !!!
--P.S. I own a GTX460 and a GTS450 but never owned a GTX470 , so thanks Kryzzp !!
This Dying Light episode reminds me, how I played Oblivion on AMD 3200+/Radeon X1300 combo. Pretty similar framerates. But I had stamina to finish it.
Today was my birthday and I was hoping that you will upload a video so that I can end my day well
Your videos are so relaxing
nice to see how your room has been transformed :)
Not that it would help anyone looking to game seriously with GPU that no longer have official driver support, but I recently cobbled together an old Core2 Duo system that had a GT8400 inside as a graphics card and installed Linux on it (Debian based). The official drivers were 370.0 something, very old and outdated at this point, and I tried playing some 2-D indie games like Streets Of Rogue, Enter The Gungeon etc. and there were literally graphics glitches and artifacts on the screen. I decided to to try out the open source Noveu drivers as they were much more recent. And those ended up fixing most of the graphical glitches with the 2-D indie titles.
So what I'm trying to say is that it may be worth a shot to use a Linux distro with an outdated card like this using the open source drivers.
If you're using a system that old, at that point just cut your losses and try out some good titles on the Genesis emulator.
This is my way of knowing what day it is
look at those stickers on the cooler 😂 the old days were really cool
I know the performance of every single GPU thanks to you😎
Cool video bro, nice gpu
Thanks mate!
finally a review what the reviewer actually have skills that are pleasant to watch in csgo, thx.
When I saw the notification I thought you were testing the Rx 470🤣🤣🤣
Ahahah it'll come when prices drop!
kryzzp great video as usual man
I had a GTX 470 from 2012 to 2014 and it was awesome back then.
Eu estava vendo o Review da GTX 780 então a notificação só apareceu, que coincidência haha
780 ainda é beast para jogos antigos ^^
Obrigado por assistir!
My irl friend just died.
Wanted to watch this to try to forget about it :(
I'm sorry for your loss :(
Stay strong my friend
Thx
I'm sorry for your loss :(.
This is the gpu I'm actually using, costed me 20 euros in a second hand market, as I was wanting a GTX 1660 and there's no stock
i have 1660 and 1070 with broken cooling system, i hope i will be able to fix it. 1660 i bought in 2019 - before this crisis of the videocards
quite surprised how well BF1 is optimized, i remember i tried Open beta with my GTX 770 in 2016 and it could only run medium with 50fps~, surprised that 470 can run it at low 60, that's impressive
its fairly CPU bound i think, I struggle to run it smoothly on a 1660super without suffering a pretty bad case of microstutter due to a weakassed cpu.
Kepler sucks that's why
19:00 meshes are actually broken on performance mode right now, only way to fix it is to set them to high. this happens on every card
Jack: My 3rd House is Compromised Once again
best vid ever
😁
Rmagwwwddd. I just got a 570! So excited :). Nice video bro. Your enthusiasm speaks for it self
Have fun!! 😁
@@zWORMzGaming Thanks man. Love your vids !!!
best one I've seen as always ! thanks for bringing such Great content ! I have been watching you for almost 4 years now and you never disappoint !
i like the testing video like this
Yo 5 mins, loves ur vid
This is sick brother
i didnt expect pubg to get 45 fps on 1080p, wonder how much you could get with a gtx 670. remember when those sold on ebay for about 30 euros!
Since it's newer and have 2Gb VRAM buffer, it should be able to perform as good as a GTX 1050 2Gb imo
@@lombredeshakuras1481 lmao
@@lombredeshakuras1481 Technically it could be even better, but in most titles the driver support and the fact 1050 2gb is a lot newer may tip scales in favor for it. In older titles it's a different story, maybe. However, in the current market likely you'll get a 670 a lot cheaper.
Really liked the conclusion of this video. Yeah any GPU is valuable don't waste any GPU man.
toujours un plaisir !!!
I bought a gts 450 after watching ur video for 45 bucks, thanks man.
Really appreciate it
Have fun!
There are no graphical incapabilities in the fortnite test.They broke the performence mode after a recent patch update
This is really a beautiful card 👏. Love from India 🇮🇳 ♥..
ayy I'm so early , posted 4 minutes ago , nice
Try next time Crysis 2 not the remastered version just the normal one. It would be interesting how these cards perform on Crysis 2.
Well, the remasters look a little nicer, but also run better too, so the old cards should play them nicely. That's if they don't crash because of architecture or some shit
Here's the old Crysis Warhead absolutely maxed out at 1080p if you're interested, a little laggy at times because of the FRAPS recorder and the antialiasing is maxed out too - ua-cam.com/video/TXnAeAaK-mo/v-deo.html
Camp 5900x 💪 lol Mine is paired with a RTX 3070 👍 Great video
Battlefield 1 performance was very impressive. I have a GTX 470 sitting in-front of me, I'm going to build a temporary PC while my Zephyrus G14 is in for repairs hahah
Great video as usual ... Keep up the good work😀😃
Love u broooo
This is probably one of the things I won't believe in words.
Rx 550 is an interesting gpu to test, i bileive
Yes, not gonna buy it at 150€ though 😭
It's brilliant, but would love it if you made more mobile GPU videos (Tho they have trash performance)!
i like the testing video
Thanks for reminding me that today is sunday xD
GG bro 😉
But best budget gaming is with gtx970
Simply impressive.
Wow the only thing that matters is that it's way better than the gt 710 and btw awesome video kryssp
The GPU was not as hot as I expected it to be, maybe it was cold in your area but I'm impressed that it did not melt your PC down xD
Yeah it was pretty cold here :)
I really enjoy your videos
Kryzzp your content is the best!!
impressive, thanks for sharing this
Please remember to test upcoming Ghostwire Tokyo with GTX 970
26:40 Man you are right even the low profile version of GT1030 is 113 Euros . Since my country I am living is different . (9695 Rupees - 113Euros)
Fermi aged like fine wine!
love the vids!
Best card+best year= my childhood
Please get BF 1 test in such gpu videos.
19:18 its a bug, its for everyone hopefully they will fix it. But untill than its brokenite
I scored 2 Evga Gtx 560's for my Media Pc for $40,nice quiet cards and game fairly reasonably.
It runs super Hot, back in the day I had two in SLI, at peak it would pull almost 700w from the wall RIP Antec psu
The trees look like that in fortnite performance mode right now. I'm not sure why
first comment I think and I am a huge fan!
maaann i miss those cool graphic design on gpus
Kinda strange how the GTX 470 couldn't launch God of War. It's probably driver related to that one, as God of War actually uses Direct X 11. But yeah, I have an EVGA GTX 470 laying around. Tested a while back. it's quite impressive still. At least Metro Exodus is playable on it too.
@Unknown Nomad But even DX11.1 is supported by this GPU. DX11.1 was mainly a software side update anyway. But AFAIk GOW has issues even on newer GTX600 series. It behaves like it's a DX12 game. Weird.
The only beachmark videos I enjou
You should include atleast one Assassin creed game.
Plz ZWORMZ
Superb
Love your videos ❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍
Nice video bro
Thanks mate!
i Have my night mare graphics card Gt210 WHat can i do But i complete gta 5 2 times with this
Fun Fact: This can be put in SLI with a GTX 560 Ti 448 core version
I bought one from second hand a week ago for 40 AZN (20-30 USD) and it was overheating like hell I did everything replaced thermal paste both Heatsink and IHS cleaned the heatsink lubricated the fan and maxed out the fan power still it overheated and shut down after playing game for few mins, I sold it for 55 AZN (30-40 USD) I actually did profit from it but still, Fermi is **HELL** was a nice experience never gonna forget.
So you got scammed and then scammed someone else?
Wow I'm this early
Still performs better than my integrated gpu
I love your content i really wish you would get an Alienare Alpha R1 and test it. make sure you get i7 with 16 gigs of ram though and ssd still seems pretty good this day
I used to have a GTX 460m a long time ago, it worked but it eventually just fried it self because of how hot it kept getting.
Like the motherboard had burn marks around the GPU chip.
It was a Gateway laptop with an upgraded chip.
plz tell me rx 560 vs gtx 950 which one is a better choice
560 :)
@@zWORMzGaming thanks i always watch your videos and you taught me a lot of things
Hi Kryzppy, I think nvidia needs to become open source their drivers for Linux for old cards like this.
I still have my msi twin frozr gtx 470 mounted on intel core i5 760, 4x2gb g skill ripjaws 1333mhz ddr3 & asus p7p55d-e pro since 2009 (i'm writing this from here). To be honest, I don't play videogames anymore but I remember that gtx 470 could run crysis 2 fine.. regards from argentina.
You are the king of benchmark business, you are the best channel, I love you so much with your humor and attitude, it's very nice of you to write your game selections and settings one by one.
you are the best man in the industry💖💖
2010 is my year of birth :)
bro next video of gtx 1060 3gb with same games
Nvidea driver support is prettuy impressive.
I think that using high meshes in Fortnite fixes the trees looking like crap
not that i would know....... but 3:05 looks like a legitimate acid trip
Hold up this is actually really impressive O_o
Kryzzp saying Ben Dover makes me lmao
😂😂