Jordan Peterson: Imitation Of The Divine | Full Address and Q&A | Oxford Union
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Professor Jordan Peterson is a Canadian psychology professor, author, and UA-cam personality. He is well-known for his bestselling book 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, as well as his podcast and many viral UA-cam videos. A self-described ‘classic British liberal’ and ‘traditionalist’, Peterson argues against the rise of political correctness and safe spaces, which he claims have swept many North American universities. He has also controversially argued against the Canadian Government introducing ‘gender identity and expression’ as a prohibited ground of discrimination.
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I'm an old guy and it did my heart good to see the warm welcome Dr. Peterson received by all the young men and women. It gives me hope for the future in these trying times.
great comment
Really? You like hyper individualism?
@@fullsend8738 i believe in you ✌🏼
Robert, the world needs your truth.
@ERICK TOMAS GALINDO PAZAN Jesus was a communist, be more like Jesus
It took about 7 minutes for him to mentally go back to his teaching mode with his hand gestures and body language shifting from closed off to free flow. Always great to see him thrive in his element. Love and respect him despite not agreeing with him all the time on all things. We’re blessed to have him.
Yes, smug Oxbridge forgot its wokeness for a moment.
Impressive indeed.
Amen my good brother
It was as a respect gesture to the greats who’d taught in them halls - maybe conscious or unconscious. He found his flow like you say, as even experienced speakers find their comfort glass ceiling eventually. When he felt he wasn’t going to be devoured he found his rhythm.
The Valium kicked in
Yes it was his lectures that I loved most
What a great sign for freedom of speech & thought that Jordan gets a standing ovation at Oxford University. Makes me feel optimistic about the future!
They give everyone a standing ovation at these addresses. He’s not unique in that regard.
Gambarizing : they only do so very rarely, maybe every 5 years. It was really unique.
This guy is a clown. I am being totally sarcastic
@@Rawker101 The writer's point was that Peterson has been 'cancelled' before at such events, especially at universities, with protests outside etc.
So yes it is significant.
It's not really a win for free speech. Free speech is about being allowed to speak even if no one agrees. But the room is filled with his supporters and admirers, clearly. There will be many opponents looking at this and plotting how they can stop this happening again.
So happy to see this man gain such positive feedback after all he's been through.
@Solitaire If you didn't understand, your first reaction is telling the explainer didn't make sense instead of asking "please explain, I didn't understand". University level psychology & philosophy are difficult subjects. Be a little reasonable and ask instead of assuming. My goodness!
@Solitaire Oh yeah? I have been following him from the beginning. Been using his lectures to understand psychology better. He doesn't make stuff up. He reads all the stuff he knows, then teaches students. Like any normal university teacher. I hope I don't live to see the day when I start questioning mathematical equations because I hate the teacher who teaches me math. This is exactly what's happening.
BTW you have never met me, don't know any single thing about me. And you see my username and just assume I'm a fragment of your imagination in a second. I chose this username before I got to know who JP is. SMH!
What has he been through? People keep referring to it, but what was it exactly?
@@saucylight ua-cam.com/video/Fd2wKn6-X_A/v-deo.html It's a long video but it probably explains it in the most detail(though the article that was written subsequently I don't think reflected this interview in the slightest!). Quite hard to give a short explanation but he was prescribed benzodiazepines and then went into pretty nasty withdrawals when trying to come off them, amongst other things with his family such as his wife being diagnosed with terminal cancer, though she subsequently recovered.
@@saucylight in addition to Sam's comment, his family struggled with severe chronic health issues and only in recent years did most problems went away because of a severely limited diet. This is also when he stuck his neck out and stood up to the nonsense in society. He was well received but there was also loud criticism.
I think his story can be summarized like this: life long illness in his family, everyone got better at the same time he seemed to be doing the most good in his life, but his daughter falls severely ill again, just as she recovers, her wife was diagnosed with terminal cancer, after surgery, there was a life threatening complication from the surgery, all the while, JBP became more and more dependent on prescribed meds which was severely addictive and not as advertised. He tried to quit and it nearly killed him.
JBP was pretty much Abraham from the bible. After his ordeal above, the spirit of cain loomed over head and he lost some faith. So he needed the warm welcome, as much as we need him to return.
the table is turning now. yesterday all standing to protest against him, now to support. wish all the best for him and his family👏👏👏
They're not the same people though are they? The two groups of people were and still are completely opposed to one another. Don't be naive
@@gstephenson9442 they are, but in a certain sense Jordan Peterson had vanquished the opposition, hasn't he? I don't agree with him on certain things but very much admire his courage.
@@gstephenson9442 Most of those opposed to him, sadly, are so for the wrong reasons: his anti-wokery and anti post 2nd wave feminism which are largely legitimate instead of his intellectual charlatanry in pretty much everything else which isn't.
there's still some kathy newman types out there to plague him, i'm sure
@Bob Shingles we get it, you want women to stay in the kitchen and you're a homophobe
I am so glad Oxford Union were able to bring this man back to their campus and welcoming him with open arms because this has not been seen in a very long time
Part 1: Imitation of the Divine Ideal
Introduction 1:06
1. Perception and Aim 1:39
2. Narrative and Emotion 10:39
3. Meta-Narrative and Imitation 18:54
4. The Calling of Awe 25:07
Part 2: Questions
1. Marginalization 28:20
2. Religion and Science 33:36
3. Selflessness 43:24
Closing 56:37
Thank you! 🌼
Thank you
What a wonderful act of service.
Thank you.
Loving you.Dom
What he says about chimps is exactly what you see in planet in the apes in regards to smaller chimps being tyrannical against the leader.
thank goodness!
saved me having to sit through his waffle
I got teary when he came onto the stage. He is a rare one. In the best possible way. So glad you made it through your dark night and are back better than ever.
Think about the woke mob who tried to hound him to his death like they have so many
@@lonewolfandcub668 that's me, he is garbage
@@fullsend8738 how so?
@@fullsend8738 you are spewing hate in comment sections, for a man who never did anything to you. Why?
@@giovannii7519 no hate just facts
Thank you Oxford Union for inviting Jordan Peterson to speak and even more for that standing ovation that JP so definitely deserves given all the thoughtless maligning and cancelling that he’s had to put up with from other universities. As a result, we get to hear this wonderful, intelligent and enlightening talk. Thanks again.
Can't wait to see Jordan being shown all the deserved recognition he is going to get from people on the 2022 world tour he is embarking on.
The recognition regarding his contribution to all the individuals & the society flourishing as a whole...
He has been largely severed from a genuine/ in-person connection with the people he is helping the most; being in that community is what I hope he gets to experience again
@Solitaire like what?
@Solitaire Here's one so easy it practically debunks itself:
37:17 "The reason scientists are doing what they are doing, if they're genuine scientist and then I would say which means they are religious scientists even though they don't know it, is because they want things to be better..."
@Solitaire There's that and even worse the fact that among top scientists i.e. members of the National Academy of Sciences 92 percent are *not* religious.
Very true he's simply brilliant in his research and delivery of his opinion of limitations of the Divine power that we all call different things and believe in. I call It Yahweh 🙋😇📖🛐🙏🏽
Standing ovation! Yes that’s what Dr Peterson deserves!
From Yahweh to Zion: Jealous God, Chosen People, Promised Land…Clash of Civilizations
Laurent Guyénot
Sifting and Winnowing Books, Lone Rock, WI, 2018
492 pp.
He got a standing ovation before he said a word! Very rare to see that.
‘No not me’
‘Well if you think that then definitely you’
Outstanding.
Cannot understate how true this is. Especially with the liberal minded types. Atleast some conservative types are much more integrated with their shadow, and hence have it much better restrained.
Honesty even at the expense of his own reputation and perhaps happiness. What a man.
Honest? from him?? lol.
As I said to another above, given the damage he does to the working classes by convincing them to blame themselves for systemic problems in order to defend the system from due criticism on behalf of the rich in whose pocket he resides, I assure you he doesn't deserve praise from anyone in the bottom 90% of society. The man is a science denying anti working class con artist.
@@Nine-Signs No you are wrong. Time will prove you wrong.
@@Nine-Signs a victim are we?
@@martindurfey6472 based on what?
Number of people he has helped.
It brought tears in my eyes to see him getting the standing ovation 👏 from the young people who really need such an intellectual in their lives.
Water welled in my eyes too.
@Solitaire
Ssshhh...
The emperor is fully clothed and of sane mind. Just enjoy the parade like all the rest. You don't want to be the one to rock the boat.
🤫
_trying to help you here_
@Solitaire Good for you. I hope you will become the 100% truth king.
Agreed! Read The Intellectual We Deserve by Nathan J. Robinson
freely available on the web.
@Solitaire Oh dear, you’re smarter than God. Perhaps that’s why you live all alone up there, solitaire.
That standing ovation warmed my heart.
Me too!
Try not to give the ol seig heil, fan boi.
The herds have always been thus.
@@punkrachmaninoff Lmao, you escalated that quickly.
@@punkrachmaninoff Climb back over that wall bro.
I was watching 2017 lectures the other day and felt a moment of sadness that he wasn’t as sharp lately but this revived my hope! Grateful he’s back on the road and more importantly, healthy again!
Well spotted! I got the same feeling watching this. I stopped listening to him, because I thought he got lazy and started to just cash in on his popularity. But this revived my hope into his existence.
Watching his discussions on his youtube channel and similar events to this one, I had nothing akin to that observation. Though he obviously is noticeably more tired and careful, slower paced. He changed quite significantly, but not entirely. But that's what the things he went through do to you. He had, and still has to some extent, to deal with a lot of stress and depression. Not speaking of the physical problems. But he has maybe even as much energy, just honed and aimed at different goals.
@@neozes
True. And I think he's succumbed to the celebrity wheel where his every thought bubble seems profound and important to him. He's better in a (relatively) intelligent forum (like here). His YT rants bring him (and me) down.
Me too! This is the Jordan Peterson I have known for 20 years. ❤️🔥🙏🏻🙌
I think this address has to be in his all-time top 3.
It's like we have here Jordan the White... "Are Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White the same person? Yes. Gandalf the White is the same person as Gandalf the Grey. It's simply that after dying to defeat the Balrog, a divine authority sent his soul back to the living world, and granted him further strength and authority."
The person I deeply admire. Always a joy to listen to him. God bless Jordan Peterson.
Me too.
@@pbiakthang7738 But his theroy is common sense. Though we don't throw it to others, like male to femal, because of we being polite, or other reasons.
He used to be a short order cook .. the most existential bacon & eggs in history I bet :)
Proof Eucharist is body of Jesus Christ and Virgin Mary is his mother.
48I am the bread of life.
49Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert, but they died;z
50this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die.
51I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”a
52The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?”
53Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
57Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.b
58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
Eucharistic miracle..
ua-cam.com/video/soCkftBBsBo/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/oogJ-cdi7yI/v-deo.html (Rome Reports)
ua-cam.com/video/whbzLYi7cyc/v-deo.html (Lanciano)
ua-cam.com/video/6PJ8BORx1p8/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/bd16tBRbLXw/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/PvxTDAVypxs/v-deo.html (levitating eucharist)
Incorruptible bodies of saints due to the Eucharist - only happens in the Catholic church. No other religion has this miracle
ua-cam.com/video/GSCk0qs-2-M/v-deo.html (Padre Pio)
ua-cam.com/video/jN4SvtRje2I/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/-TrR1CEWdbc/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/XCDBekAQ-FI/v-deo.html (Carlo Acutis)
ua-cam.com/video/33vlkJh2iJc/v-deo.html
Apparition of Virgin Mary
ua-cam.com/video/GQnKS7YUE7Q/v-deo.html (Virgin Mary apparition in Ivory Coast)
ua-cam.com/video/0PPGuMmn6TQ/v-deo.html (Virgin Mary statue moving)
ua-cam.com/video/tVU8bhbQInw/v-deo.html (Virgin Mary apparition in Egypt)
ua-cam.com/video/nMEWxRB-1dc/v-deo.html 1968 Egypt
ua-cam.com/video/8YR6INkTK7Q/v-deo.html (Miracle of the sun)
ua-cam.com/video/yF0_ysUivxE/v-deo.html (Miracle of the sun)
ua-cam.com/video/76qAMB3qUpA/v-deo.html Medjugorje Sun miracle on Easter Sunday
ua-cam.com/video/RyYNIulxIbc/v-deo.html Virgin Mary appears in Egypt & Spain-Eye Witnesses
@@Raverraver9999 What a poor way to spread your beliefs. No wonder there're atheist zealots.
What a truly admirable human being. Can we have just one politician with an ounce of his intellect, honesty and integrity.
no we can't.
@@williambaldwin2000 But he's a Republican so obviously he must be a racist, homophobic, sexist, misogynist (did I leave any out LOL) who is to be shunned along with all the other Republicans. Oh, yeah is also a domestic terrorist fomenting insurrection. LOL
@@wayneyadams i know youre joking but lets take a moment to appreciate some people actually think like this haha
@@joedwyer3297 That's what makes it scary. Here in Florida, a Democrat who plans to run against Ron Desantis has already compared him to Hitler. Desantis has given us more freedom in Florida than any other state and this guy compares him to Hitler, and there are people who believe it.
@@williambaldwin2000 They have been sitting in their mothers' basements in the dark, in their dirty underwear so long, that it will be a long-drawn-out process for them to go outside.
The most needed voice of this era!! God bless Dr Peterson
I was concerned the first couple of minutes when I could hear the nervousness in Jordan's voice.
Now he is settled in and sounding like the old Dr.Peterson. I'm so happy to see him back to lecturing and feeling good. 🙏
I could listen to him speak basically forever. I love how particular he is if the words he uses. He also gets functions of humans, od all sorts, so finite, and explains them so well. I really have a hard time with people saying he's a problem for women(yes men n women are different people, I'm not sure how you couldn't tell in all the different ways) n today society...because I don't see that at all. He's just the right mixture of mischievousness with the right morals to be great.
Another great representation.
I love that everyone stands with him once he's walked to the podium. He hasn't yet done anything or said anything on that podium but everyone attending automatically stands with him. Incredible.
Truth and honestly are well respected, Dr. Peterson has more than those virtues. God bless him🙏🏻
It's traditional for those attending to stand at the beginning..They sit once the invited speaker begins their talk.. Remember this is Oxford tradition means much..
@@colinkillian9265 these talks are not all beginning with a standing ovation are they? c,mon, I feel like I'd remember that.
downeybill its not my experience either. Some applause but not that effusive
@dhv2 I do and I have zero shame. Thanks for diagnosing me, I had zero clue my mental health was at risk. I guess I'll just stop following JBP, since you told me to, random citizen.
Was an honour to meet you and speak to you Dr Peterson
33:33
Thank to to the Oxford Union for featuring him
When was this recorded?
good question, were you happy with the answer?
@@tensevo Yes, I think he did.
As a science student who grew up 'religious' his answer helped me realise that having both a scientific mentality with a notion of a religious power aren't mutually exclusive, an idea I've been contending with. Both are motivated by the pursuit of truth.
His answer was very holistic
@@nikolashadjipaschalis5629 great, he had helped me reconcile science and religion too. The more I see science without religion (ethics or morality) the more I realize the importance, there is a reason philosophy is called meta physics, it encompasses the physical. Morality and truth transcend science.
@@nikolashadjipaschalis5629 If you're interested in rounding out your understanding of Peterson's concept of truth allow me to recommend Sam Harris' podcast with Peterson podcast "#62 - WHAT IS TRUE?"
It is a freely available on the web, sorry UA-cam doesn't allow me to post the link.
It brought tears to my eyes to see Jordan getting a standing ovation at Oxford
Thank you, Oxford Union for hosting this brilliant professor, writer, speaker and human being! He has many truths to share with us and it is always wonderful to hear him speak. Glad to see him being appreciated and hosted with a standing ovation. Shows me that you all are critical thinkers, thank goodness for that.
Peterson said something brilliant? Critical thinking? Where?
The fundamentally fascinating thing about Mr. Peterson is that he is not just a machine that randomly produces 'smart and know-it-all' information, but a person that neutrally tries to discuss (interactively and genuinely) different perspectives on matters, questions, and statements. If you have seen more than one video of his opinion and interpretation on certain matters, you can see that he is consistently saying the same things but applied to different situations, and they do make sense indeed. Moreover, instead of being offended, annoyed, or even scared by questions, reactions, and interpretations, he is responding rather interested and challenged with the goal of creating a form of common knowledge everyone can learn from. This is a rare characteristic that you do not see often and I, personally, find admiring.
I'm not surprised you like him. You too seem to have a tendency for meaningless waffle. Besides you meant to say "admirable" at the end, not "admiring".
@@naughtypanda2538 Haters are out today. You guys are so tedious with your bile.
@@aranisles8292 Agreed. It's just the perception that they are many, as they comment on highly-liked comments. Let me explain:
It's because comments on comments stay sorted by "first come, first served", instead of the general YT comments section being sorted on the number of likes + seemingly AI-generated relevance-sorting algorithm, which means haters get exposure even though nobody votes with "likes" for their opinions.
@@naughtypanda2538 Walls of waffle is what populates Peterson comment sections. Waffle much like that produced by the master waffler himself except with worse English.
So brilliant and precice observation!
How lucky I am to get to listen to this man. Thank you to everyone involved.
A teacher will be forever a teacher. And being a teacher is the most beautiful career there is. Thank you for you passion Professor.
This gentleman has a fascinating mind and a capacity to express it. I never get tired of listening to him
If only more people were this honest!!! What a better place it would be!!! I so appreciate this man and it fills my heart with so much joy to hear him speak!!! To listen to him and know what he has gone through and what his family gone through, I am amazed at how he still get to do so much. His intelligence is hard to find and that he is not arrogant about it, just want to make me keep on listening!!!
We are all blessed that he keeps on, keeping on!
I am amazed at the memory he has.He can speak with such an articulated reason and his train of thought is endless on a variety of subjects.
so endless that he forgot to bring his mini lecture at the end back to the question the guy asked him but maybe that was intentional because he already answered it although not directly
amazed too, so many peoples names, book names scientist names he knows, just incredible, not to mention all the information in his head. Blows me away.
lmao he waffles incoherently
@gloverelaxis what does waffles 🧇 mean
I am so Happy to see him up and around again , he is a hero of mine , I hope he stays strong and regains his full health . god bless
One of the best of modern day thinkers and a super sharp take on Imitation of the Divine. Well recovered after his illness.
Best of modern day thinkers ?? Really ? You need to get out more .
@@ronriehle1337 Peterson comment sections are full of this type of pronouncements. And if you ask them to quote and explain an example of one of Peterson's best thoughts you get a blank stare.
@@twntwrs Peterson seems to have become a bit of an idol to many people it seems. I couldn't really comment, but I've never been particularly impressed by his musings. Sure, he's clearly a smart, thoughtful guy, but "one of the best modern day thinkers"? Seems a bit of a stretch.
@@BiggyJimbo OK then, name a great MODERN DAY thinker . Elon Musk ?? Billy Gates ?? There aren't any, that's why Peterson stands out, best among an historically dreadful and mediocre bunch.
@@ronriehle1337 I always find people who have this line of argument very interesting. You clearly have nothing to offer but you talk in a way where you make it seem like you do. Who are your examples of modern day thinkers?
Man, listening to Jordan and trying to keep up with what he's saying takes so much work, he is so able to dilute such a massively complex idea into a couple of sentences. It is like a mental exercise, I've noticed I can more easily track complex ideas since I've began listening to him
Me too! That’s so interesting you pointed that out, i was thinking about that just this week
It sounds complex bc it’s hard to understand but it’s hard to understand not bc it’s complex but rather bc it’s garbage.
@@MrPhinev It's interesting how people can't imagine things beyond their own intelligence. It makes sense, as you can't experience anything in an objective sense. Meaning that if someone is shallow, not only will they never see the depths, but won't even believe in their existence.
The fact that Jordan is here speaking to us all when we need him the most is proof of God. Seriously, think about it, Jordan has obviously been given a talent and massive reach and he’s talking about God, not only God, Jesus Christ. Without a doubt Jordon’s life is a gift to this generation from God, in a time when we lack knowledge and sense, there’s Jordan doing what he’s doing. This is truly a divine thing,
Dr. Peterson is clearly in opposition to the historical claims of Christianity, when he mentions "propositions which are outdated" he refers to the entirety of Biblical faith, like the Resurrection and the virgin birth. He is trying to construct Christianity without Christ, "Good luck with that".
@@PilgrimMission Nah I don't think so. He leaves room for prospective believers to think and breathe.
you spelled his name wrong
@YooToob1984 Atheists are cry babies who wet themselves at the thought of #hell.
@Chada Harbajan Hindu?
In years to come, Jordan Peterson, in my estimation, would be the most quoted. Yes there are many great thinkers on whose shoulders he is standing. JBP is an invaluable modern day interpreter of today's society and it will take people years to seriously appreciate.
Truth ALWAYS eventually prevails and he is a man of the TRUTH. He will continue to rise !
As soon as he started to gesticulate at 6:38, it was showtime. An insightful address. Excellent, as usual.
I bet if you were asked to do so right now you wouldn't be able to articulate a single one of Peterson's "insights" off the top of your head.
@@twntwrs what
@@twntwrs yeah he's quite mumbo jumbo if you don't pay attention.
@@kaustubhratan4655 And the closer attention you pay the more evident it becomes it actually is mumbo jumbo!
@@twntwrs You need a hug. Or a better hobby then. Why do you waste your time on something you declare mumbo jumbo? He's making perfect sense if you actually pay attention. Even to people who's first or even second language isn't english.
One had best be wearing your “thinking cap” when listening to a presentation by Jordan Peterson. He talks on a level that demands such.
If that thinking cap comes equipped with a BS detector it best be a heavy duty one or you'll be smelling smoke.
@@twntwrs Lots of JP fans here. Maybe this is not the best place for you...just saying
@@rickd438 The more that point out that the emperor has no clothes the better.
@@rickd438 maybe it's the best place if you wish to actually participate in critical thought, instead of being told how and when to critically think
@@twntwrs How is this statement even appropriate? He encourages people to think and engage in dialogue. What is underhanded about that such you feel the need to disparage him?
Proud of you Oxford- with age you learn not to judge people as much on snap judgements on what they say as much as their sincerity- few people are as sincere as this and the welcome you gave him says a lot of yours as well- best wishes
@Mary Martin love you too Mary
Or complementary of bright young people who showed polite welcome to someone. I certainly do not mean pride as they seek my stupid approval. More as in pride because it gave me a good feeling seeing kindness and good wishes to another human being after little but years of negativity. A civil society certainly has dissent- but nothing but dissent is a hellscape. The arc of civilization has never been but an arc- we are all stupid and foolish to not see and cherish the gifts we have. So it is not patronizing- it is a sincere wish and hope that my college age child and those at this talk see far more complexity in the world- more beauty in the world than the miserable critical people who believe they are noble and some new society of wonder will rise in its place. Western rome felt the same and thereafter no one could read or fix a road or figure out what giant build the aqueducts- Nineveh fell and locals didn’t even know it’s name several generations later. We are arrogant enough to believe we control the planet’s thermostat but stupid enough to realize we actually do control whether we live in a civil society. I remain proud of my fellow citizens for showing us something new which actually discovered long ago between 2 rivers- the ability to live together. Best wishes
Did I suggest he was martyred. He is no victim-that’s kinda the point- or better said he is a victim as are we all but the goal is not to become bitter. It only leads to snarky comments and finding ways to take people out of context in complicated discussion- which is bitter and simple . I didn’t really like his talk tonight. I think he has become repetitive and predictable. But a rare intellect who isn’t a drone professor where you pull a string and predictable groupthink is projected. Both still deserve civility. My daughter is the only female investment banker intern in large leveraged finance division at bulge bracket bank headquarters, was part of the American Embassy last summer in the Balkans. She has job offers from around the world. My goal is only her happiness whether that be running a hedge fund or home raising kids. Really doesn’t matter. But true, no society civil or barbarian without children. The beauty of kids is you become less self centered and you do feel a greater responsibility to the society you leave them to do the same. Women can have kids- that’s kinda a thing and that’s not their only value- nor is short selling Wall Street.
@Mary Martin
So women are told that they are " only valued and valuable until 23 years old while she is ripe for breeding ".
You sound somewhat bitter.
Yet you are promoting the idealogy (I presume) that says women have no value at any age other than being quasi men.
Guess what, women are more valuable because they can have children, (as well as everything else). And I, as a women, would never ever denigrate or give up that value.
But now we have to listen to men telling us that they too can become "women" just because they feel like it, can dominate sports, can invade women's spaces ect.
So who here is devalueing who?
And so what if not everybody wants traditional gender roles to continue, if that's a minority of people then you are just going to have to suck it up. What makes "you" so important that "you" get to change everybody else?
@Mary Martin wow. You really do sound angry that Peterson uses his voice to speak his mind. In your mind only LEFTISTS should speak. I’m a 56 yr old woman who has 3 daughters and have 7
Grandkids and counting. I call that Real Progress. All 3 are college-educated ( STILL PAYING OFF THEIR OWN DEBTS), married and trying to live the American Dream. Why shouldn’t they be allowed to say they’re HAPPY CONSERVATIVE WOMEN??? Why can’t we say we love Our Lord Jesus Christ and his teachings of THATS what we want?!! Peterson is MY VOICE!! ✝️🙏📿🇺🇸
Every day im seeimg more cs lewis comparisons of thought in his speeches. Really nice one!
I SPY RICHARD DAWKINS (FRONT ROW TO LEFT). Btw this was one of my favorite of JP's lectures. His ideas on us imitating the ideal by creating hierarchies, and the very concept of God existing (at the top of this hierarchy) for the sake of imitating a higher ideal weather or not God exists is amazing to come across as we ponder the formation of morality. His responses in the Q&A are simply divine. WATCH THE WHOLE THING!
to see the way he is receiced already makes me cry. its just so insane to live in a time like this. thank you.
Here is the thing about Peterson in my opinion at least sometimes he might not get you to your hypothetical destination...But he makes sure the journey is worthwhile....thank you sir🙏🙏.
Yes, agree
He makes sure the journey is worthwhile!
I don't know if anyone realizes how much of a walking miracle this man is... this man has written about going out of hell, and he actually has been in hells, he has suffered in every possible way and watched the ones he loved suffer just the same. But look at him now! Just compare him to a few months before! His recovery is spectacular! And it was by no mean an easy feat, a lot of people would've given up to disease in his stead.
12 rules already saved my life and I can't imagine what more can beyond order bring me.
I’ve been there and I saw him. Addiction can be a hell of thing.
What happened to him a few months ago?
@@christopherpape4823 he had some serious health problems due to dependance on benzodiapzepine. He was really weak and could barely think and talk normally.
@@abdallahelgraoui wow I didn't even know that. Glad he's ok.
@@christopherpape4823 I was genuinely worried about him, when he reappeared in his first podcast it appeared as if he had lost his spark. But man he got it all back and he is stronger now than ever
Jordon Peterson is a intellectually well rounded, confident, humble person who scares people who have not thought through what they believe. He allows a person to examine their beliefs and grapple with what works and what does not work in a physical world. I very much appreciate his desire and skill sto teach people how to change for the better.
I would challenge that there is not another popular Academic out on the stage these days that can match the depth and application Peterson does in a comprehensive inclusion of all of the Psychological based sciences.
This man is a Godsend! Thank you for seeing the value of his mind and words.🙏❤️
I'm absolutely glad God has brought
Jordan Peterson back to spare more
Wisdom to the humanity that's Fantastic
Glad to see JP in the world again. You could tell he was nervous but he got through it.
Valium
@@Ck-zk3we If it helps.
he was more prepared than ever, this is oxford man
One of my favorite lectures, and I have seen a lot of them.
Congratulations to Oxford Union for the initiative. Amidst so much nonsense, idiocy, and ill will all throughout the public spectrum, it is reassuring not only to see Prof Peterson in good shape, but also the warm and civilised welcome on the part of the audience
Yes, amidst so much nonsense and idiocy generated by Peterson himself. Here just one example: 37:17 "The reason scientists are doing what they are doing, if they're genuine scientist and then I would say which means they are religious scientists even though they don't know it, is because they want things to be better..."
92% of top scientists (members of the National Academy of Sciences)
are *not* religious!
@@twntwrs I thought the same! He's making quite the assumption there, that "genuine scientists want things to be better". To me, it seems like he's projecting his own personal agenda, and seeing things how he wants to see them!
@@BiggyJimbo Especially seeing himself as a genuine scientist - he can often be heard in lectures or interviews proclaiming himself a scientist or even an evolutionary biologist. Why would he constantly be bringing it up unless he has some insecurity about it. Impostor syndrome?
Well there's a reason that psychology is not considered a hard science.
We shall usher in a new tradition
@@twntwrs So few scientists have stood up and decried the covid scam, they can barely be counted as HUMAN, Religion is irrelevant. RELIGION is not needed to be A GOOD HUMAN BEING, a belief in something spiritual and greater than the individual self or the individual selves ego does tend to be necessary to not be a mindless borg entity, as most scientists have become.
Vintage Peterson! It astounds me how all of the scientific knowledge dancing through this lecture maps on quite perfectly to Dante’s Commedia: imitation, attention, perception, seeing (the most repeated word ‘lo sguardo’) and always looking up to the stars at the end of each cantica.
Like Dante, Peterson is digging into many domains of knowledge weaving them together. And he even has the Italian hand gestures, which certainly add verve and vitality.
@Solitaire There's biological differences between men and women. Debunk that
@Solitaire Everybody is responsible for their own lives!
Debunk that
beauty.
@Solitaire more of a rhetorical statement to point out the absurdity of your declaration
@Solitaire Nah, I donʼt accept the answer. You didnʼt understand the idea or knowingly spoiling the meaning
What an absolutely smart and amazing person, thank you Sir Jordan Peterson 🙏🏽💐
The response to the question about science and religion was excellent!
Absolutely ! I never thought of it that way
It was hardly even an answer. He uses heavily skewed definitions when it comes to religion - in his mind an act of good is a work of god, which stales any meaningful discussion.
What an emotional entrance, thinking what he has been through since his last appearance here. Its just my opinion but he's definitely the most important public figure of our time. If only people actually listened to his words instead of via some proxy with an agenda. I haven't enjoyed listening to somebody speak and converse since Hitch, they are both very different but such brilliant minds.
@Solitaire Everyone can be labelled a half truth king. Its so easy to pick holes in anyone, if only more people had his outlook and apetite for improvement the world would be a better place. Maybe stop looking for faults in people. There are many more people worth critiquing in the publlic domain than he.
@Solitaire start with the little me.
@Solitaire Really? Everything he has ever said? So if he said ,,good morning" to a neighbour you can debunk that? Or the fact he said about hitler and stalin that they were terrible men?
@Solitaire maybe you should learn to use your words properly before claiming a false superiority
@@sandyv1270 Don't bother, if she isn't a BOT, that is the place her brain exists.
So great to see the respect these young men have for professor Peterson, it shows that they are critical thinkers and talented individuals. May God bless them all with wisdom.
Jordan's 13th Rule; We don't understand consciousness, we don't know where it fits in the cosmos.
[Jordan, how about not projecting your personal confusion about consciousness on to everyone else?]
Jordan's 14th Rule; How do you arrange books? Using the axiomatic structure of your a priori perceptions manifesting as self evident fact to your ignorant mind.
Jordan's 15 Rule; The best way to interact is individual to individual and as if they are part of the process by which things we don't understand can yet be explored and by things that aren't properly organized in our society can yet be set right.
Jordan's 16th Rule; Free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future.
Jordan's 17th Rule; The more positive interactions you have the more successful your relationship will be.
Jordan's 18th Rule, Hard core clinical psychology research has determined that perception influences behavior.
[Yes Jordan, when I perceive I am thirsty my behavior is to go to the fridge for a drink.]
Jordan's 19th Rule; There is something to us. [Uh sure Jordan, a bit pointless and ambiguous however.]
Jordan's 20th Rule; I realized psychologically that the future is in a sense actually unpredictable.
[You needed psychology to figure that out Jordan? I figured it out without psychology.]
Jordan's 21 Rule: It is hard to get in to Harvard and it takes good SAT scores. [Yes Jordan, everyone already knows that.]
Thank you so much for the opportunity to listen and learn from this wonderful incredible human being! May you, your family receive blessings of wellbeing, peace, and everlasting love. May All, who listen to or read you, Dr. Peterson, learn that harmony in this World can be attained, if are willing to feel and wish, towards All, the right attitude: respect, tolerance, happinesses, and love. Mayu, from San Diego, CA.
44:20 Props to this guy. Great question. I love people who clearly love and respect Jordan but are still clearly independent. He shows clearly that he's deeply curious about Jordan's work but also that he has some healthy skepticism and thus is able to communicate how he interprets things in a way that Jordan can actually dissect. Makes for very interesting conversation. Be like this guy
@Tyrannicaltech your reply says more about you than it does about Mike's comment
Is that guy Trevor fucking Noah?
@Tyrannicaltech No i elevated the guy who asked a good question, by mentioning exactly what I thought was good about the question. Literally nobody brought up race but you. I'm here because I'm a Jordan Peterson fan and somehow you think I could possibly simultaneously be in favor of preferential treatment of groups. How do you reconcile that exactly? I believe in precisely the opposite of what you're accusing me of. Couldn't be further from the truth and you should be ashamed at your own willingness to assume that. Garbage, ignorant comment.
@Tyrannicaltech Interesting that your comment was made from an account that was made only 3 weeks ago.
Meh, sycophancy.
That welcome was so warranted. Made me happy to see that some people can give appropriate reception for someone who’s done so much.
I love how Dr. Peterson can compartmentalize decades of research and experience and then articulate concepts that we all need to discuss, except we aren’t aware that they need discussion.
so many great comments here, yours is my favourite!
Super Dad strikes again. Spreading truth, love, and inspiration, across the land.
The world needs more philosophers like Dr. Peterson. He's doing a good service by introducing young people to philosophy. You, too, can be a philosopher. The love of wisdom is the most powerful freedom one can have. But as a beginner where do you start? Well, I recommend starting with the classics such as Plato's Republic and working your way up. Having a good foundation with the classics will help you develop your philosophical understanding more easily. It's kind of like a cheat sheet because once you've read Plato your mind is quickly opened. Try it.
I can feel my mind expand in a positive way when he thinks out loud. He's very authentic
Ill never get tired of what Jordan has to offer.
What a triumphant welcome! It’s wonderful to witness!!!
I love seeing that man everytime
Hayirli olsun
This is something we all can be doing with our gifts, we all have a lot to give to each other. Jordan encouraged me to live my life without counting the cost. Wisely, but without compromise.
This speech is so freaking brilliant and important.
Silliness is more like it.
Can you give an example of what's brilliant and why?
@@twntwrs
I would like to second that request. Please inform me too.
@@justanothernick3984 I'd put money on either no reply forthcoming or revealing the complete absence of brilliance.
@@twntwrs
I'm putting my money on the egyptian eye symbolism. ( Maybe he didn't mention it here, but he mentioned the eye white and direction as a mating hypothesis ). Or the mouse-cage match. We see that in our society all the time. People willing to lose in order to keep participating. I don't see it but I'm not a clinician so...
Let's see who of us wins more money!
"If you think, "Oh, not me," then definitely you." There's a mountain of wisdom in that singular sentence.
Please unpack. He hasn't
@@MrHamtits It means that if you can't see that absolute evil lurks inside of you--that you could be tempted to engender Hell on Earth--then you are unconscious of your own capabilities. And if you are unconscious of what evil you could do (and might even enjoy), then that dark, hideous, latent aspect of your psyche (the shadow) will possess you with certitude when the proper occasion for mayhem presents itself.
@@thaddiusglunt2424 don't get me wrong. I get it. But he just noodles forever.
Wrong comment soz
@@MrHamtits I wouldn't call what he says noodling. He's put a lot of thought into his speeches and there's a purpose for everything he says. Noodling seems to imply that he is being frivolous or tangential--neither of which I see in his speeches.
If you young and want to be educated to think for yourself, listen to Jordan Peterson long enough and you will be thankful you did.
Bravo to Oxford Union for inviting JP to illuminate the minds of these young people.
God bless Dr Jordan Peterson
Dr. Jordan is an amazingly humble gentleman, that we are so blessed to experience in this culture at this moment.
I feel like Peterson’s true expertise , is making those that think of themselves as more intelligent than they truly are ( academics ) , understand what are basically core principles that those such as myself , as a self employed carpenter and father , have not only learned from an early age but continue to practice upon a daily basis . He is from predominantly working class ( apologies for such profanity) background and seems prepossessed in explaining through his deep understanding of the human condition , to all those complacent enough to consider themselves competent in their misplaced understanding of the world . All power to him . A good man indeed . At this point , I shall leave him to the infante terriblisium and pursue my current pursuit of the rich and deep tapestry which is the music of Marvin Gaye ….
Tony Kehoe, l absolutely love how you wrote this. Delicious dry humor too. Thank you for making my afternoon 😊
Perhaps Jordan Peterson's best discussion on the relation between science and religion, and how they're both rooted in our physical makeup.
i am looking forward to the discussion between Peterson and Dawkins! Thank you for uploading.
Dawkins seems pretty closed minded these days. It was painful to watch his discussion with Bret Weinstein.
I would have loved to see Hitchens and Peterson debating.
Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and Bill Maher. Three atheists that tried their dam hardest to make me an atheist. In the end they're just emotional appeals. Especially with Stephen fry
@@he2295 -- Atheist or believer, all these intellectuals think they can find the truth and know the difference between good and bad, right or wrong:
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Genesis 3:4-5
At this the serpent said to the woman: “YOU positively will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day of YOUR eating from it YOUR eyes are bound to be opened and YOU are bound to be like God, KNOWING GOOD AND BAD.”
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There is a promise however, that eventually many people will find the truth:
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Daniel 12:4
“And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant.”
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Because this happens only at the time of the end I suspect that a great deal of what people have been previously convinced to believe will need to be abandoned. The most preferred "narratives" will necessarily become obsolete.
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Luke 5:39
No one that has drunk old wine wants new; for he says, ‘The old is nice.’
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Proof Eucharist is body of Jesus Christ and Virgin Mary is his mother.
48I am the bread of life.
49Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert, but they died;z
50this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die.
51I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”a
52The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?”
53Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
57Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.b
58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
Eucharistic miracle..
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ua-cam.com/video/oogJ-cdi7yI/v-deo.html (Rome Reports)
ua-cam.com/video/whbzLYi7cyc/v-deo.html (Lanciano)
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ua-cam.com/video/bd16tBRbLXw/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/PvxTDAVypxs/v-deo.html (levitating eucharist)
Incorruptible bodies of saints due to the Eucharist - only happens in the Catholic church. No other religion has this miracle
ua-cam.com/video/GSCk0qs-2-M/v-deo.html (Padre Pio)
ua-cam.com/video/jN4SvtRje2I/v-deo.html
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ua-cam.com/video/XCDBekAQ-FI/v-deo.html (Carlo Acutis)
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Apparition of Virgin Mary
ua-cam.com/video/GQnKS7YUE7Q/v-deo.html (Virgin Mary apparition in Ivory Coast)
ua-cam.com/video/0PPGuMmn6TQ/v-deo.html (Virgin Mary statue moving)
ua-cam.com/video/tVU8bhbQInw/v-deo.html (Virgin Mary apparition in Egypt)
ua-cam.com/video/nMEWxRB-1dc/v-deo.html 1968 Egypt
ua-cam.com/video/8YR6INkTK7Q/v-deo.html (Miracle of the sun)
ua-cam.com/video/yF0_ysUivxE/v-deo.html (Miracle of the sun)
ua-cam.com/video/76qAMB3qUpA/v-deo.html Medjugorje Sun miracle on Easter Sunday
ua-cam.com/video/RyYNIulxIbc/v-deo.html Virgin Mary appears in Egypt & Spain-Eye Witnesses
I like his ideas around emulation and imitation. Following something divine based upon the presupposition that we are all created with a divine spark, then allows for (to me anyway) a sense of fellowship and interaction with one another at the deepest levels to be some of the highest ideas of divinity we can reach and aspire to. A sense of trading divine particles with another.
I really love this man.
His illuminations give me courage to pursue a more noble life, fit for now, for our Age.
Profoundly thought provoking dialogue.
One of the most influential minds of the last century.
Er, no.
@@naughtypanda2538 Your opinion. Fortunately not highly accepted.
@@davidyetter5409 I don't think Peterson is taken seriously among serious academics. He's an obvious fraud. I can't believe people fall for it. It's all just empty verbiage. Surely you can't be that stupid? If I am mistaken please refer me to anything Peterson has said or written which is "profound".
@@naughtypanda2538 Notice how they failed to do so.
GOD BLESS JORDAN PETERSON
How I love this man and his expressive profound work!
Thank you very much for sharing this great talk!
I am glad to see him looking well and strong again.
Following his talk, and his response to questions was a challenge for me tonight.
I am blown away by these concepts… I sometimes wish I had studied more when I was young
So good to Dr. Peterson receive a standing ovation from students at Oxford. That’s the wokest crowd out there.
No the rotters at the other place (Cambridge) are the Marxist brainwashed scum 'woke' who stopped him from speaking there. Oxford do have Marxists but thankfully there is still some concept of universities being about intellectual debate and not purely marxist indoctrination centres.
@@eddesa5134 Sad to hear that about Cambridge. One would expect more grace and curiosity. They do have lovely choral music, notably anything but Marxist in nature.
Love listening to this man and looking definitions and meanings of the word he uses. Broad spectrum of insightful psychology. I write lyrics and he definitely helps me expand my vocab.
ua-cam.com/video/u-VgZGBmTiU/v-deo.html (Link to music I'm currently working on)
As always, it’s a privilege and a blessing is to listen and learn from this magnificent man! Blessings on your way, Dr. Peterson. Mayu, from San Diego, CA.
I could say this is the best speech of Jordan Peterson I've ever seen (and boy I've seen a lot of them). I was pinned to my seat, analyzing every word he said and blown away by the amount of information that exists in his precise speech. I think the reason behind his complicated and detailed explanations is that he has gone through all of these concepts so many times in his mind (through thinking or rethinking by teaching it to other people) and therefore he is able to grasp these ideas in all their entirety and analyze them from many aspects.
Wisdom for FREE. Glad that he fully recovered. Last year we all were so worried about him being ill.
May Lord Jesus Christ grant him good health & long life.
It is a blessing to have Dr. Peterson back in circulation. (Hi Mrs. Peterson!) You have blessed us with your work, the opportunity to pray for you and your family, sharing your life with us. I enjoy listening to your thoughts, but Dr. Peterson, please dive deeper into God, the Divine, Scripture, history. We are not evolved, we are created. We don't imitate the Divine, per Catholic theology, we are created to be divinized. The grave error of evolution is responsible for and is the foundation of most if not all the grave atrocities of the 20th century you so rightly decry. (ua-cam.com/video/R5KV8gmb1Xo/v-deo.html) (from The Fatima Center) God bless.
Jordan continues to amaze! ✝️❤️
I could listen Dr. Peterson talk all day long!
White noise generators are also effective at switching off the higher functions.
44 minutes deep “ Is that Dawkins on the front row?” Can’t wait.
yup, he was there
Your strength and attitude inspire me. Sending good vibes for your health 💪
what do you think about that time he lied by claiming drinking apple cider made him stay awake for a medically impossible amount of time? what do you think about the total lack of scientific rigour behind his meat-only diet? what do you think about the fact he had no idea what Marx actually argued because he'd never read Marx, after an entire career talking about "Marxism"?
@@gloverelaxis blah blah blah. That’s what I think of your loaded questions champ 👍
@@BigfootRunning so you ignore reality when it doesn't suit your pre-existing beliefs? some intellectual you are lmao
Damn I would of never thought Oxford union would give this kind of reception! Absolutely brilliant and deserved for a great man
Relentless curiosity without brackets is how you arrive at this understanding. Thank you for the clarity of thought. You sure cleared few clouds and the rest I'll be able to based on direction given in this beautiful talk. Thank you and be well.
Did I hear correct that Peterson and Dawkins had a dialogue? When will that video be coming out? Also did anyone else notice the CosmicSkeptic cameo in the audience!
Many others appear, like me, entranced, as usual, by Dr Peterson. I feel encouraged and entertained by a mixture of Socrates, Orwell and Bob Geldof, perhaps. At precisely 38:00 minutes into this lecture his audience gets this blinding summary of the issue confronting the wide domains of human knowledge he has encountered: “We cannot frame our perceptions outside a narrative structure, and there are no narrative structures without value”.
Truly heartwarming and encouraging to see the reception Professor Peterson received, especially in the context of the disgraceful actions of Cambridge almost three years years ago.
Oh how refreshingly dense !!!
Love the breath of topics involved and the depth of each observation .
Excellent !!
There is some good in this world, this video proves that. Makes me so happy to see Dr. Peterson supported by his community in this manor again. I can only imagine how wonderful that standing ovation must’ve felt, what a legend.