TOSH: Toshack and Shankly Clash

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  • Опубліковано 21 бер 2023
  • Penblwydd Hapus to John Toshack, a legend in each regard! Here's an extra taken from EatSleep Media's 'Tosh' in which himself and the late Bill Shankly had a confrontation prior to the 1973 UEFA Cup Final...
    You can watch Tosh by clicking here: www.amazon.co.uk/Curtis-Wyndh...
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  • @marksharmanmusic1
    @marksharmanmusic1 11 місяців тому +8

    Good on you Tosh. Couldn’t have been easy arguing with a legend . Greats story

  • @GayorgVonTrapp
    @GayorgVonTrapp 11 місяців тому +7

    Fascinating history. What a legend.

  • @mrjw6701
    @mrjw6701 11 місяців тому +8

    I was 9 when Toshack left Cardiff to join Liverpool. I remember my old man being pissed off, he used to take me to all Cardiff home games.

  • @estherriding2293
    @estherriding2293 11 місяців тому +9

    Remember being at this match. We went back the next night. He was brilliant, So lucky to have seen this team xx

  • @william_marshal
    @william_marshal 11 місяців тому +5

    As a British soldier serving in Germany at the time I was live at the second leg in MGLB when Liverpool had some stern defending to do, especially after Heynkes scored a tremendous second goal with a wonderful bending drive. Liverpool had to hang on for about half an hour but at the end we all climbed over the fence and ran onto the pitch to congratulate the Liverpool team. It seems John's performance in the first leg made all the difference.

  • @stetomlinson3146
    @stetomlinson3146 11 місяців тому +13

    Toshack and Keegan are two of the most underrated forward combinations we've ever had at Liverpool. Neither seem to get the recognition from fans they deserve. Different styles, but easily as influential and as good as Salah and Mane.

    • @TheRealist2022
      @TheRealist2022 11 місяців тому +5

      UNDERRATED? BY WHO???

    • @richshaw6889
      @richshaw6889 11 місяців тому +6

      @@TheRealist2022 That'll be The Premier League and Sky.
      Didn't you know that football only began in 1992?

    • @robertboyle2573
      @robertboyle2573 11 місяців тому +5

      Nobody underrates Toshack and Keegan, they are still a famous partnership fifty years later!

    • @TheRealist2022
      @TheRealist2022 11 місяців тому +1

      @@richshaw6889 lolol....absolutely right!

    • @TheRealist2022
      @TheRealist2022 11 місяців тому +2

      @@robertboyle2573 exactly.

  • @jj-oc2sy
    @jj-oc2sy 11 місяців тому +3

    Great memories of watching the big man from the kop as a teenager

  • @eamonstafford2056
    @eamonstafford2056 11 місяців тому +7

    Well done Shanks for giving it some thought and changing his decision and good on you John for standing up and standing your ground. You were quite obviously right

  • @stephensmith812
    @stephensmith812 11 місяців тому +4

    Was at both games. Great story

  • @seanbonella
    @seanbonella 11 місяців тому +5

    great player he was

  • @brianevans2819
    @brianevans2819 14 днів тому

    Great insight John, brilliant thank you.

  • @stormytempest6521
    @stormytempest6521 11 місяців тому +5

    Learned alot about psychology did Toshack of the master SHANKS ! Great story though !

  • @peterlfc1387
    @peterlfc1387 11 місяців тому +8

    Interesting story about the match being abandoned. Didn’t know that. Before me time but I loved these players from the 70’s. Keegan and Toshack were great Liverpool players. Bob Paisley was astute and sounded like he could read the opposition and tell Shankly how to set up the team in big matches.

    • @craiggerrard5117
      @craiggerrard5117 11 місяців тому +2

      I think that Paisley was the main reason for success even during the Shankly years. He wasn't the public face though because he was a very modest man.

    • @terrysmith6791
      @terrysmith6791 11 місяців тому

      Absolutely agree with you. Paisley was a genius

  • @TheGarageJump
    @TheGarageJump 11 місяців тому +1

    Quality. I didn't know this one. Thank you for posting.

  • @eddieomahony507
    @eddieomahony507 11 місяців тому +5

    Y n w a thanks tosh

  • @petel2551
    @petel2551 11 місяців тому +3

    Terrific story, all the arguing done behind closed doors like it should be. I'm sure what makes a great manager is no doubt to listen, take on born valid comments and don't be so stubborn as to not to change your mind if you've got it wrong. Sounds like Shanks put his ego to one side and made the right call.

  • @denis9450
    @denis9450 10 місяців тому

    Tosh the legend

  • @sidhynes8444
    @sidhynes8444 10 місяців тому

    Great player and a lovely man but I can’t help but think what might have been had Shanks signed Worthington as he so nearly did.

  • @johncambridge7339
    @johncambridge7339 11 місяців тому +2

    Liverpool great

  • @mcharrisment4765
    @mcharrisment4765 11 місяців тому +1

    Great story. I know of the story but not John Toshaks side of it

  • @KryptonitetoallBS
    @KryptonitetoallBS 11 місяців тому +2

    Something just doesn't smell right about that story. The way it's told reeks of B/S. Imagine any young lad going into Shanks office and telling the great man that he was the luckiest manager alive? Na, not a chance in hell!!!!!

    • @johnmcguigan2724
      @johnmcguigan2724 11 місяців тому

      I'd tend to agree. Doesn't quite add up the way he slightly changes the story halfway through. 🤔

    • @stormytempest6521
      @stormytempest6521 Місяць тому

      We'll never know will we ?

  • @MadLFC
    @MadLFC 10 місяців тому

    That story tells you more about Shankly's greatness than Toshack's nerve. It shows you that Shankly, unlike many, many managers, was astute enough to make a selection change and not let ego cloud his judgement. What an absolute legend. Many managers would have left Toshack out of the team for weeks for that outburst, but not Shankly.

  • @kdlofty
    @kdlofty 11 місяців тому +5

    It was probably Shank's plan all along, Lol.

  • @SufferersKeepOnJammin
    @SufferersKeepOnJammin 4 місяці тому

    The good old days, when men were men.

  • @alfredoarevalo725
    @alfredoarevalo725 5 місяців тому

    Toshack-Keegan 1-0.

  • @gillie-monger3394
    @gillie-monger3394 3 місяці тому

    Yeah, right. Tosh has never been slow in blowing his own trumpet. This sounds like wishful thinking.

  • @sm9571
    @sm9571 11 місяців тому +1

    Liverpool the best city in the world

    • @swaldron5558
      @swaldron5558 8 місяців тому

      Wrong, it’s worst place to live.

    • @sib1930
      @sib1930 3 місяці тому

      ​@@swaldron5558Never been here so don't talk

  • @billybonds4449
    @billybonds4449 11 місяців тому +19

    Stevie Heighway's always running, John Toshack is always scoring, when you hear the Kopite's roaring, TOSHACK is our king.

    • @steaks652
      @steaks652 11 місяців тому +7

      Tosh was our KING first, butt ! Cardiff City. Nice mention for the great Jimmy Scoular.

    • @eddieomahony507
      @eddieomahony507 11 місяців тому +3

      I rember that song y n w a

    • @howwwyyy29
      @howwwyyy29 11 місяців тому

      Just a pity he couldn't leave Stevies wife alone

    • @andymeighan8160
      @andymeighan8160 10 місяців тому

      Absolute yard dog

    • @billybonds4449
      @billybonds4449 10 місяців тому

      @@andymeighan8160 Deluded Knobhead.

  • @peterhamilton4256
    @peterhamilton4256 11 місяців тому +9

    If he spoke to shankly like that he would have never played again ...Nice story but exaggerated

    • @KryptonitetoallBS
      @KryptonitetoallBS 11 місяців тому +2

      Totally agree mate. He's either embellished it or completely made it up. Either way he's full of it!!!!!! 👍

    • @andymeighan8160
      @andymeighan8160 10 місяців тому +3

      And how would you know that.

    • @KryptonitetoallBS
      @KryptonitetoallBS 10 місяців тому +1

      @@andymeighan8160 For me it was just listening to the video. Toshack pauses a lot, thinks a lot and the story just doesn't flow as it does when one is recounting an ACTUAL event. Add to that the fact that Shanks was a huge dominating figure @ Liverpool in those days and it simply doesn't add up imo 👍 Be interesting to hear Peter's opinion!

    • @robertcottam8824
      @robertcottam8824 10 місяців тому

      @@andymeighan8160
      And why would you question in such a way?
      Don’t be so rude.

    • @UJSupanova
      @UJSupanova 10 місяців тому

      Thing is... He was there and you wasn't. So I think I'll take his side here. He actually worked with Bill on a daily basis whereas you've believed the public image of Shankly and that's enough for you to call a legend a liar.