The Best Bow Woods: A Bowyer's Review

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
  • My 10 favorite woods for bow making. This list only includes woods I've tried. If there are any others you think would have made the list, let me know!
    0:00 Introduction
    0:30 Hickory
    2:30 Osage
    4:19 Yew
    7:27 Ironwood
    9:13 Elm
    10:39 Oak
    12:02 Maple
    13:39 Ash
    15:57 Hornbeam
    17:09 Juniper
    19:31 Bonus
    More in Tim Baker's list of bow woods www.tradtalk.com/threads/bow-...
    Music by my awesome cousin in Uruguay Marcos Topolanski Quintero. You can find more of his work on iTunes and Spotify.
    / marcos-topolanski-quin...
    open.spotify.com/artist/1rc1J...
    More of my work: dansantanabows.com

КОМЕНТАРІ • 289

  • @denvergriffin5555
    @denvergriffin5555 3 місяці тому +10

    From your videos I have learned so much and produced some bows that have delivered much happiness. But what I really want to say is that your videos, like the bows you make, are simply works of art. Deeply grateful for them all.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  3 місяці тому +2

      Thanks Griffin, I’d love to see them! You should post over on r/bowyer

  • @EricaSwallow
    @EricaSwallow 11 місяців тому +16

    You really sold me on hickory. And I enjoyed the beautiful footage of you carving juniper. So pretty!

  • @johnhalverson2849
    @johnhalverson2849 11 місяців тому +21

    Thanks, Dan. Once again you show off the basic credo of the primitive archery scene..."passing it on". We all stand on the shoulders of the giants that went well before us, Ishi, Saxton Pope, the Thompson brothers, etc. They shared their knowledge without reservation, and you embody that same spirit. Tjanks, brother.

  • @DuffyHomoHabilis
    @DuffyHomoHabilis 11 місяців тому +8

    If I had been drinking milk, it would have shot out my nose at 2:38! Hedge (osage) easy to split? HA!!! Maybe compared to elm, (but nobody splits elm. That's why blacksmiths put their anvils on elm logs.) but I grew up on a farm full of Osage. We cut it for fence posts, and sold the smaller stuff for firewood, which burns like coal.
    You are right that a Hedge fencepost can last a century and not rot.
    And also right that a straight piece is VERY rare.
    Nice vid. Thanks.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  10 місяців тому +1

      Other than the knots it does seem to split easier than similarly dense woods. It’s not easy to split, just easy for its weight class

  • @aurorachacon1128
    @aurorachacon1128 11 місяців тому +14

    I loved the narrative you made of each wood type. Fantastic Dan! I really enjoyed the video.

  • @XxFunkMachinexX
    @XxFunkMachinexX 11 місяців тому +5

    I love that I'm listening to casual guitar music and Dan's mellow voice, all while two turtles try to drown each other. 2:15

  • @dougdumbrill7234
    @dougdumbrill7234 11 місяців тому +10

    I’m so glad you named Juniper. I live in Northeast Wyoming and Over 20 years or so it has become my favorite bow wood. I agree with you on the aesthetics and workability of this wood. I also think it is faster per pull weight (and carry weight) than any wood I’ve used. Finally, I have a tip for durability. I decrown the stave , taking the sapwood down to just a faint line of heartwood in the center of the bow back. I prefer a square cross section about 1 1/2 inches wide. 64-68 inches long, unbacked. Favorite weight about 45lbs at 29”. Thanks again! PS it also makes a wonderful west coast bow down to 36” in length, sinew backed of course!😁

  • @grahamanderson4466
    @grahamanderson4466 11 місяців тому +10

    Laburnum is Britains darkest wood and will make a wonderful longbow .I kept the stringy sapwood on it and did a z splice billet in the handle. I shot a round of clout at Meriden with it. (180 yard round ) Performed very well.

  • @genem2768
    @genem2768 11 місяців тому +14

    Great information (and music). P.S. I never expected such violence in the world of frogs.

    • @mtman2
      @mtman2 10 місяців тому

      Be grateful the Lord didn't make Frogs N Toads 100-200lbs or WE'd on the menue esp children = they'll stuff anything they can down their gullets including live mice in South America on video...lol

  • @bifbofbadoo8971
    @bifbofbadoo8971 11 місяців тому +7

    So relaxing! Thank you for another masterful and informative video

  • @jonathanhicks140
    @jonathanhicks140 11 місяців тому +11

    Thank you, I enjoyed that video. Living in the UK the available woods are a little different, but bearing in mind our damp climate (& that of Northern France), it can be seen why Yew was the tree of choice for war (self) bows, as some of the more moisture sensitive timbers wouldn’t have been very resilient to the local climate. Also why composite horn / sinew / timber laminate bows with water soluble animal products based glues didn’t catch on unlike say the Steppes of Mongolia which have a very dry climate.

  • @magnusdanielsson2749
    @magnusdanielsson2749 10 місяців тому +19

    Interesting.
    Here in Sweden the Sami made bows from two woods glued together with fishglue. The wood used was birch and ”tough pine” (pine rich in resin).
    Bows were approx 170-180 cm and with a light recurve with stiff static ears. The limbs were also covered in birch bark.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  10 місяців тому +1

      Great bows! One of my favorite designs

  • @luizvitor9267
    @luizvitor9267 11 місяців тому +18

    As someone who lives in Brazil, I would like to point some woods that can be useful for people in tropical regions of South America.
    Firstly we have “Ipê” it’s known as the bow wood of our indigenous people. Additionally, there is “Jatobá” that can be considered as a hard wood, and very useful for bow making.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  11 місяців тому +5

      Thanks for the comment! My family is from Brazil-one day I’d love to make an ipe bow from a real stave

    • @0987654321mnbvcxzmor
      @0987654321mnbvcxzmor 8 місяців тому +1

      I live in Australia and the native people had no bow and some say it is because there are no good bow woods in Australia but I am going to keep experimenting until I find one even if it ends up being palm tree which the natives in the adjoining land use for bows

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 8 місяців тому

      I've wondered about Jatoba. Here in the US it is commonly called Brazilian Cherry. Marketed as flooring primarily. I put it in my house and it is pretty hard. A flooring nailer just wanted to split it. Wound up pre-drilling and hand nailing.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  8 місяців тому

      @@mpetersen6 Good belly wood. As with any tropical wood it can be hard to see the growth rings, making it difficult to tell if you’re buying a violated board or not

  • @alanbjornolsen7576
    @alanbjornolsen7576 11 місяців тому +5

    Really nicely made and interesting video

  • @ChateauBeaufort
    @ChateauBeaufort 11 місяців тому +1

    U GAVE ME THE PASSION FOR IT… THE ULTIMATE “BUSH-CRAFT” WISDOM❣️

  • @lemhanback9595
    @lemhanback9595 10 місяців тому +4

    I'm so happy to have discovered your channel. I look forward to looking at your older videos and discovering this ancient artform

  • @NappingWanderer
    @NappingWanderer 11 місяців тому +7

    Fantastic video! I agree with much of your list. Hickory is by far my favorite as long as it's treated well and designed according to it's strengths and weaknesses, flat belly and a heat treat being the minimum there. Osage would be my second, while Elm, and by extension, Hackberry would round out my top three. Sugar maple would be my number four, followed by Black locust. Though I've only made one Locust bow and several Maples, so with more experience, those two may switch places. The bottom five, in no real particular order might have to be White Oak, Cherry, Mulberry, and Walnut. Every Ash bow I've tried to make has broken. No idea why, as I've tried several designs. I would love to try my hand at a Yew bow one day though! Great video, really love your content.

  • @DanSantanaBows
    @DanSantanaBows  11 місяців тому +8

    These are just my favorites, among the woods I’ve tried. What else would you all add to the list?

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  11 місяців тому +4

      @@beesmongeese2978 Good one! Yellow birch is very underrated. The stats and feel are pretty close to sugar maple

    • @rogersimeons2781
      @rogersimeons2781 11 місяців тому +2

      Definitely laburnum. It has such elasticity.The original Bois'D Arc

    • @mikegross3800
      @mikegross3800 10 місяців тому +1

      Black locust. It's tough to find a good piece, but when you do and It's properly dried, it makes a fast bow.

    • @charlesrooker989
      @charlesrooker989 10 місяців тому

      Dogwood

    • @charlesrooker989
      @charlesrooker989 10 місяців тому

      Hickory was my favorite until found a stave appropriate for a Dogwood bow , it is 62 # @ 28"
      Shoots faster than a more robust Hickory bow I built , wish I could find more of this , I have enough to make two two piece composite bows , all I need are the sleeves to do so.

  • @Gauchooriental
    @Gauchooriental 11 місяців тому +4

    Very useful and well done!!!!

  • @dragonsage6909
    @dragonsage6909 10 днів тому +1

    Great info, thank you!
    Excellent guitar!
    :)
    ..I'm building bows wirh wood, (oak, poplar, maple), from Rona and Home Depot so far.. working on my 8th, 9th and 10th bows now.. its a little hit or miss.. lol
    I appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
    Thank you again!

  • @theeddorian
    @theeddorian 11 місяців тому +8

    Juniper "bow stave" trees can be found along the eastern flanks of the SIerra Nevada. The Paiute, Mono, Washo, and other indigenous peoples would chop a stave out of the living tree, leaving a long, narrow, vertical scar on the trunk typical scars are from three to four feet long. Stone tools are sometimes found around the base of such trees. The bows would be flat(ish), wide above and below the grip, usually backed with sinew applied to the back.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  11 місяців тому +2

      Shawn Woods has a great video showing a tree he found with the scars from one of those stave harvests

    • @mtman2
      @mtman2 10 місяців тому

      Very cool info = likely return to the same tree the next time...!

    • @theeddorian
      @theeddorian 10 місяців тому

      @@mtman2 I have only seen one. It had three scars, long, narrow, vertical furroughs. The bark had closed over the scar left by splitting out the wood. They were spaced out around the trunk. This was in eastern Mono County.

    • @mtman2
      @mtman2 10 місяців тому

      @@theeddorian
      If big & strait enuff(+growing bigger) may supply staves for generations = become a sacred tree into the generation...!

    • @theeddorian
      @theeddorian 10 місяців тому

      @@mtman2 Yep. I've spoken with Paiute and Mono people who were surprised that such trees existed. I suspect that individual bow makers had their own trees, and these were secret, or at least private, property, possibly only passed on to a single successor. One trouble with using the tree too much is the convergence of scars in the wood. You would need to leave the tree alone for a generation or more if it was used too often.

  • @johnsharkey9143
    @johnsharkey9143 8 місяців тому

    The music literally keeps me transfixed to both your instruction and the visual.

  • @MarcosTopolanski
    @MarcosTopolanski 10 місяців тому

    Just.. thanks primo!!!! Imágenes hermosas! Love it

  • @erikhoff5010
    @erikhoff5010 9 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video and information on bow woods. The background music is nice too. Seems like you and your brother are very skilled at what you do. I have always wanted to build a Osage Orange longbow and this video gets me closer to doing that. I've had a stave of Yew since 2007, waiting for me to work it. Thank You for the information! Skal

  • @patriciataubin3103
    @patriciataubin3103 11 місяців тому

    Excellent and. Very informative video. Dan _ it was beautiful done_ thanks for the information

  • @diegogalindo1138
    @diegogalindo1138 11 місяців тому +4

    Where i live Malaga- Spain theres a mountains called Sierra Tejeda (Yells Ridge) i know centuries ago english people came here to buy and cut trees to craftmaking long bows
    They tell the Tejo or Yell in english was one of the best wood to create magnificient bows.......
    I like to see and walk throught this mountains and beautiful trees yet...
    Good video. Thanks for sharing

    • @huskiefan8950
      @huskiefan8950 10 місяців тому

      Gracias para la historia. Soy hombre de sangre Espanol, viviendo en US, en el estado de Minnesota. Quiero saber specificamente que es El tipo de Madera que deciste? Tejo? Buscando El mejor tipo de Madera en mi area para hacer arcos. Pero no se El tipo de "Tejo". Saludos de Minnesota, USA.

    • @diegogalindo1138
      @diegogalindo1138 10 місяців тому

      @@huskiefan8950 Hola. Bueno el tejo es un arbol relativamente abundante en el sur de España. Es una madera flexible y que no pierde su rigidez cuando esta bien tratada y seca. Tambien es ligera y era muy usada en epocas antiguas para arcos longbows de guerra. Aun se sigue usando en arqueria. Su nombre en ingles es Yell. Si pones Tejo o Yell en google podras ver fotos de este preciado arbol. Saludos amigo

  • @basknation
    @basknation 11 місяців тому +4

    New to your channel. thanks for the invaluable info

  • @raytristani
    @raytristani 10 місяців тому

    Very satisfying to watch

  • @dp7933
    @dp7933 11 місяців тому +2

    Other than yew, I can walk to a source of most of these woods. Ironwood, I will have to drive to.

  • @benleckie5775
    @benleckie5775 11 місяців тому +7

    Thank you, a lovely mellow presentation with alot of information. I live in central Victoria, Australia, i have access to plenty of good elm here, some ash too but not so much other species used in the US or Europe. I've played a little with making bows, mainly when I was much younger. I have however hunted with a bow since I was about 5yo, I'm now pushing 46... My father was a champion target archer back in the day, so I had a good mentor. I appreciate your teaching and will have a go with the elm available to me. I want to also try a couple of local species, black wattle and casurina,or sheoak. The latter was used extensively by gold miners here for pick and tool handles being very springy. Black wattle is also very springy. Im not sure about shipping staves or logs to the US but would be happy to do so to get your opinion.
    By the way, I'm a Blacksmith by trade and have a good amount of carpentry experience so I do have some clue as to woodworking...
    Cheers, Ben.

    • @DownunderFarmandForge
      @DownunderFarmandForge 3 місяці тому

      Hey Ben, the Traditional Bowyers Bible has both eucalyptus and wattle in there ( yeah I know that non specific as they don't give species) with both of them they recommend wider staves than standard. I completed a bow makers course down here but all the woods the instructor had were those European/American ones that grow as settler plantings or weed species Elm, Hazel, Oak, Hawthorn (I made a Hawthorn 30lb at 28" long bow that is nice and fast for the weight) You can also get Osage it grows as a weed up in NSW but be hard to find a decent stave. Hope that is some help. Darren

  • @Bob_Adkins
    @Bob_Adkins 10 місяців тому +2

    I've made 3-4 bows from trifoliate orange. It's very white, a little stringy and twisted but very strong. Finding a clean stave is almost impossible; you have to maneuver around knots and curves, but it rewards with a very fast bow.

  • @stormiewutzke4190
    @stormiewutzke4190 10 місяців тому +1

    I haven't made a bow in awhile. I have been making knives and have the big grinder now and am excited to see how it does.

  • @TheTribeOfBenjamin
    @TheTribeOfBenjamin 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @brockdoyle8329
    @brockdoyle8329 5 місяців тому +1

    You are like the bob Ross of bows. Awesome videos. Thank you..

  • @anytorp
    @anytorp 11 місяців тому +2

    Epic

  • @georgemorrison1888
    @georgemorrison1888 11 місяців тому +4

    Great presentation full of useful information. Good bow wood is tough to come by in the mountain west.

  • @terrycureton2042
    @terrycureton2042 3 місяці тому

    I really appreciated your systematic survey of so many different bow woods and insights about their characteristics and usage. This is epcert bowyer knowledge that needs to be passed on, used and expanded upon. As a like-long archer, I've made a few decent bows but have made thosands of arrows which are my primary focus. After decades of work on making arrows, and especially natural shoot shafts, I think I have found all(?) the secrets and replicated the whole primitive process to produce very good arrows. Incidentally, one of the things that I have learned about arrows is that those with trimmed feathers fly faster, hit harder, and most important fly straighter and more accurately. The primitive arrows preserved in museums have long feathers trimmed down close to the shaft.
    The only arrows I have seen or used with untrimmed feathers, sometimes wrapped around the shaft, are flu-flu arrows which are designed for short range use and shooting upward because they quickly slow down and can even be caught by hand as they float downward. They're great for shooting at flying birds or squirrels in trees because you can usually recover the arrow if you miss hitting something.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  3 місяці тому

      Thanks terry. I make all kinds of arrows. I personally like inefficient flu flu type arrows in many situations. More control inside of my accuracy range in exchange of a loss of control outside of it is a trade off I frequently choose. I don’t typically shoot very far away

  • @MrGaza74
    @MrGaza74 2 місяці тому

    Oh that Juniper asmr 🤤

  • @TheWadetube
    @TheWadetube 5 місяців тому

    I live in Pontotoc Mississippi, it's kind of wet here but we get a lot of Osage Orange, also known as Bodark and there is some large bamboo growing in the area, like 3.5 inches in diameter and I know it can be used for a bow or bow backing or center laminate if you get it processed. For a kids bow a 2.5 to 3 inch diameter can be split into six even staves and a wooden handle fitted into the middle, then taper and tiller the ends to fit your needs, without any extra work can manage around 20 lbs for a couple of hours work. The handle allows for either a long bow grip or a cut out throat shelf arrow rest. By pre drilling the bamboo and making a counter sink with a leather washer glued into it a screw can be used without splitting the bamboo. Good job .

  • @seanwoodburn2616
    @seanwoodburn2616 9 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic content!
    My personal favorites are strawberry guava and vine maple, harvested above 3000 feet.
    Cheers!

  • @brockdoyle8329
    @brockdoyle8329 5 місяців тому

    Awesome video. I build board bows and usually back them.
    My favorite is hickory/bamboo and Brazilian walnut/ bamboo.
    The most beautiful Bo I made was purple heart/ bamboo. All soot well but the Brazilian walnut/ bamboo was the best performance due to how light the limbe were tillerd to draw weight, lots of hand shock. Hickory/ bamboo was the smoothest, like silk to shoot

  • @user-pv6ft2px2f
    @user-pv6ft2px2f 6 місяців тому +3

    How to buy these woods in India?

  • @anthonylacorte5811
    @anthonylacorte5811 11 місяців тому +2

    Great information Dan, hickory is my go-to wood as well due to availability and juniper is my second. I’m curious why you said sinew backing requires months of patience? I sinew backed a juniper and was shocked at how fast the sinew dried using gelatin as hide glue and sealing with truoil. The sinew was translucent in less than 48 hours and rock hard,however, I left to sit for a week before finish tillering. Thanks, Ant 🐜

  • @user-rf2qe4gi4k
    @user-rf2qe4gi4k 3 місяці тому

    watching the the big strips come off when youre using the plane blade tool really satifying. cheers from Aus

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  3 місяці тому

      Cheers! Don’t let anyone tell you australia doesn’t have great bow wood

  • @shanek6582
    @shanek6582 9 місяців тому

    I've been making some from a big mull berry I had to cut down and I'm really impressed with it. I've been an Osage snob for so long, I'd never tried it lol. There's a bunch of black locust around me, I'm going to cut some staves from that next to try.

  • @FrankieTolong
    @FrankieTolong 10 місяців тому

    I want to think you so much this video really help me out alot

  • @snoopylol6824
    @snoopylol6824 11 місяців тому +3

    Nice video, i have a long and straight enough piece of boxwood to make a bow wich is pretty rare do you have any idea of how it would behave

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind
    @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind 11 місяців тому +1

    this is a great video. I have tried making walking staffs for about 30 years. I'm in Nova Scotia , Canada and although our ash and oak are good Rock/sugar maple takes the cake so far for me .

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  11 місяців тому +2

      That would be my favorite bow wood in canada, plus, elm, white oak, and hophornbeam when you find it.

    • @pigeonmanof180
      @pigeonmanof180 4 місяці тому +1

      I live in Maine (close by) and you should be able to find plenty of suitable Amelanchier (shadbush, Juneberry, etc) where you are. Very hard wood. It made his honorable mention list along with lilac (even harder) if you can find an old one.

  • @deancroce1061
    @deancroce1061 7 місяців тому

    I just made my first real bow with hickory I got from Windsor plywood and I am extremely impressed it's only about 40 ish pounds but shoots so fast and quiet compared to my (bought) laminated recurve

  • @0987654321mnbvcxzmor
    @0987654321mnbvcxzmor 8 місяців тому

    I am just starting out and live in Australia where they say there is no good bow wood but I believe different and am going to experiment with various local tree species.Just by bending saplings to the point of near destruction I have already found so amazing wood so strong and flexible,I can hardly wait.Thanks for the valuable teaching it is all new to me but soaking it up like a sponge.I hope the addiction will subside soon as my life is becoming a little dysfunctional but some passions are worth it.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  8 місяців тому

      Don’t worry there’s plenty of good wood in australia. Look up Colin Gair, he’s active on the facebook primitive bowmaking group and works with several native australian species

  • @justabill5780
    @justabill5780 8 місяців тому +1

    Excellent presentation! I'm in Central Maryland (between Baltimore and Annapolis) and I generally use Osage Orange, Hickory and (I'm disappointed they weren't mentioned) Mulberry and Black Locust. I have a lifetime supply of Osage available to me, but I really do enjoy working with the others, also.
    I treat Black locust as a cross between Osage and hickory. I clear the sapwood and chase a ring like Osage. But I heat treat the belly like I do hickory.
    Mulberry, I treat similar to Osage except that I will occasionally leave a ring of sapwood if I use it to make an English Longbow. If I use it to make a flatbow, I just make it a little wider than an Osage bow.

    • @ToddMitchell62
      @ToddMitchell62 7 місяців тому +1

      Helpful, thanks! I have a lifetime supply of mulberry and I'm just learning.

  • @Ostilogoth
    @Ostilogoth 7 місяців тому

    Love the opinion of the types of wood and your explanations. I would enjoy seeing you use some bogwood. Specifically bog Cypress. This is wood that has been submerged in a bog for hundreds, if not thousands of years. It has been protected from decay by its lack of access to oxygen. Some of these bogwoods have even started partial petrification, with little stone flecks visible when cut. After drying, these woods can be comparable to tropical hardwoods.
    At any rate, I would like to see a bow made from bogwood. There are several species to choose from, but if beggars can be choosers, bogwood Cypress would have my vote.

  • @Ratt_Blorb
    @Ratt_Blorb 2 місяці тому +1

    Using this as an outline for what wood to use for the new bo staff im making- since i just broke the current because it was weak and cheap

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  2 місяці тому +1

      Check out the board selection diagram in the board staves chapter in my video “the back of the bow 6 ways”
      If you’re buying boards this will help you pick out unviolated wood for a staff. I really the beech wood I used for mine

  • @BakaEngel
    @BakaEngel 11 місяців тому +4

    I am also very fond of Juniper. While it might deserve its reputation as 'heartbreaker' bow wood, its just so beautiful to both work and see finished that I can't resist working it. Supremely light in the hand as well. However, you find so much contradictory guidance of sapwood to heartwood ratio that it can be very difficult to know how to treat the wood for a bow. What has your personal experience told you when it comes to sap v. heart?
    As a bonus, the scrap makes excellent firestarter/good smoking material for grilling too.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  11 місяців тому

      Either will make a good bow. I don’t worry so much about the ratio (other than it looking good) and just try to chase a good g ring instead of leaving a violated back

    • @BakaEngel
      @BakaEngel 11 місяців тому

      @DanSantanaBows That was pretty much the conclusion I came to as well. Though I haven't tried chasing a ring on the sapwood, seems like it would be pretty difficult compared to the heartwood. 😅

    • @dougdumbrill7234
      @dougdumbrill7234 11 місяців тому +1

      I decrown the stave until there is a thin line of heartwood down the center of the back. This has worked well for me with both flatbow and longbow cross sections. Flat bow 64+ inches. Long bow 72”

  • @shanhur4562
    @shanhur4562 7 місяців тому

    Agreed on hickory as a bow wood. I fire-hardened a hickory English longbow, backed it with bamboo, and it retains its initial backset and is quick and stable. Not a selfbow, but as a backed bow, hickory makes a great English longbow if fire-hardened.

  • @cellerfeller1474
    @cellerfeller1474 4 місяці тому

    I believe some of the natives in northern Canada would search for Black Spruce that leaned out over a river. The lean would create compression wood on the water side and they would work that up to make the bow.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  4 місяці тому

      Neat! the sami would also make composite bows with compression pine bellies backed with birch

  • @bienyamientoefy1923
    @bienyamientoefy1923 11 місяців тому +1

    greetings to everyone.❤❤❤

  • @ThatFeralChile
    @ThatFeralChile 6 місяців тому

    I love your cousins music and like your videos man respect. Pretty sure I commented the other day but I forget what I said. Probably the same thing 😂. Your videos keep popping up now. J thought I heard you say your from mass. We are practically neighbors if that’s the case. I’ve been interested in making some bow’s. So I can teach my son. Something constructive to do together. I’d like to teach him to hunt too. With bows we make would be badass! lol.

  • @Onionbaron
    @Onionbaron 4 місяці тому +1

    When I was a Kid in Sweden, we used to make bows out of Juniper...
    And then later Ash (think it compare to Hickory...)
    I don´t know Osage...

  • @tazmike46
    @tazmike46 10 місяців тому

    Thank you. I’m thinking about making a bow. Time will tell.

  • @MarcCoF
    @MarcCoF 7 місяців тому

    Really nice info! Do you know if any kind of elm is situable? The one we have in Europe is little bit different from what you show in the video

  • @Rekkie88
    @Rekkie88 8 місяців тому

    Awesome video, Im a starter bowyer and I was wondering how rowan wood is to work with for bows? On my land I have loads of rowan wood and I would like to see how it is to work with since I have so much of it.

  • @markjust86
    @markjust86 10 місяців тому +2

    I've been drying out an ash stave for about 18 months, I was planning on using it to make an English longbow. I have never made a bow before so I'm not sure if a longbow is the way to go. My stave is really nice and straight with no obvious knots and is about 8ft long.

  • @greensterrides6293
    @greensterrides6293 2 місяці тому

    i made a recent English selfbow using hazel and i left the bark on as a backing hazel grows like wildfire here in east of England and it is holding up well i hade to chase the knots and heat bend the top limb to behave but sollid bow at 50/60lbs

  • @CampfireKodiak
    @CampfireKodiak Місяць тому

    Outstanding video! Loved the format. Can you make a similar video about the best arrow shaft woods?

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  Місяць тому +1

      It’s much more forgiving with arrow woods. You can use pretty much any decent wood for an arrow if it grows straight or can be split straight

    • @CampfireKodiak
      @CampfireKodiak Місяць тому

      @@DanSantanaBows Good to know thanks! I just bought a Pfeil carving draw knife which should be perfect for this!

  • @EmielTalen
    @EmielTalen 2 місяці тому

    Robinia! (Pseudo acacia)
    Apple, though hard to work with, when made in a bow it shoots so, so nice.

  • @severinevans346
    @severinevans346 10 місяців тому +1

    I just use hickory because it's easier and a good heat treatment makes it a lot better.

  • @TristanBehrens
    @TristanBehrens 3 місяці тому

    Any tips on a design to make with wych elm (scots elm)? I have 2 branches about 3 - 4 fingers thick seasoning as we speak and i have never even attempted to make a bow before. Im now a little scared having just learned it's difficult to work 😂
    Do I need to heat treat it and if so, how? Will it split ok as i only have a limited supply, or should I just attempt to rough the bow out from the branch as a whole?

  • @gaswamper1479
    @gaswamper1479 11 місяців тому +3

    If you're in the southeast i can highly recomend persimmon. Hard to find good trees but well worth and takes fire hardening well.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  11 місяців тому +3

      I have heard excellent things about it! Would love to try it one day.

    • @jk07ist
      @jk07ist 10 місяців тому +1

      Persimmon was almost the exclusive wood used to make wooden golf club heads before modern materials, when Taylor Made moved to steel, they called it Pittsburgh Persimmon.

    • @gaswamper1479
      @gaswamper1479 10 місяців тому

      @jk07ist Yes sir that's a fact, and that's one of the reasons it's hard to find more mature trees in many areas.

    • @jk07ist
      @jk07ist 10 місяців тому

      @@gaswamper1479 There are two persimmons about 50 yds from my property, very straight and about 15 yrs old. Unfortunately, they're not on my property. :)

    • @donaldatkinson7937
      @donaldatkinson7937 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DanSantanaBows I don't know anything about bows,but I know wood. The heart of a big persimmon is black, sometimes called ebony. They used to be used in golf club heads when they were actually wood. Dogwood is very similar, very hard and stable, and wears smooth, persimmon and dogwood were used as shuttles in the textile industry. Live oak is tough as hell, you can't hardly split it, with a big hydraulic splitter. Used to be the preferred wood for certain components in wooden ships, but is probably too twisty to make a bow.

  • @crookedwillar
    @crookedwillar 4 місяці тому

    Great video thanks for sharing have you ever made one out of sweetgum i have several in my area wondering if make a good bow wood

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  4 місяці тому

      No but i’ve heard it’s good bow wood. Treat it like an average whitewood. A heat treat is probably a good idea

  • @mikesauer7775
    @mikesauer7775 4 місяці тому

    Pacific north west has madrone hardwood I've always wanted to try. It is very dense and strong but I don't know about flexibility after it is cured out

  • @cliffordbaxter1992
    @cliffordbaxter1992 4 місяці тому

    I have a beautiful piece of Yew ,about 5" in diameter 🙂
    Should be able to get a couple of Bows out of it ✝️🇺🇸😀

  • @KrynTheDragonKing
    @KrynTheDragonKing 4 місяці тому

    Where do you find such beautiful Juniper, I don’t find any juniper with such vibrant heartwood

  • @greybone777
    @greybone777 10 місяців тому

    Beautiful 😊 . Im in eastern Washington and one of the only native hardwoods is black locust. Its extremely hard and pioneers used it for wagon tongues,and such. Some of it has a beautiful yellow color when polished. Just wondering what you think 🤔

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  10 місяців тому

      Good stuff! It’s on the bonus list

  • @jthepickle7
    @jthepickle7 10 місяців тому

    Slocum, building his boat, used pasture Maple for the keel. Pasture trees stand alone, affected by wind from all around - as opposed to forest trees, which are protected. Forest trees though, have tighter annual rings

  • @GLRAKER
    @GLRAKER 3 місяці тому

    I don't have much to pick from here in Alaska. I want to make a bow and will experiment with Alder, willow, birch, and black spruce. Some kind of composite may work well using sinew as a backing. We shall see...

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  3 місяці тому +1

      I’d use spruce or birch. Look up Sami two wood bows as well, that could be a great design for you

  • @joeo7257
    @joeo7257 10 місяців тому

    Cool video. There is an Ironwood tree in southern Arizona that grows like a mesquite, or Osage. It will be difficult to find a piece with minimal grain variation. It is HEAVY! Denser than water! I have to wonder what you could do with that. No doubt it will require allot of work and tool sharpening.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  10 місяців тому

      I’ve heard it would be decent bow wood if you could find a straight piece. I think it’s a protected species too so it might not be easy to find a piece. Maybe landscapers/arborists

  • @ajithalexjacob
    @ajithalexjacob 7 місяців тому

    Hickory - north NJ, sloped terrain.

  • @jmuraidajr
    @jmuraidajr 7 місяців тому

    Other than Yew wood what would be a good wood or woods to use to make an English Longbow not a flat bow?

  • @jasonmiller7794
    @jasonmiller7794 4 місяці тому

    Can you tell us about Sycamore, Hackberry and Persimmon?

  • @dio8591
    @dio8591 11 місяців тому +1

    Anyone know what some good (Hopefully common) bow wood is in Philippines?

  • @chiliboom6140
    @chiliboom6140 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for this great video. As someone who is just getting into archery and bowyering (probably not a word) are there a couple woods you’d recommend? Beginner friendly.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  6 місяців тому

      Hickory, maple, ash, elm etc. Follow my board bow tutorial with whatever you have at home depot or lowes

    • @chiliboom6140
      @chiliboom6140 6 місяців тому

      @@DanSantanaBows I really appreciate the help. Thank you.

  • @fmkfmk3835
    @fmkfmk3835 11 місяців тому

    Good video Dan
    is still the "lilac".

  • @Helliconia54
    @Helliconia54 10 місяців тому

    Australia's Spotted Gum Makes good bow staves.

  • @Aikidobear129
    @Aikidobear129 10 місяців тому

    I have a couple of questions and I hope you have the time to answer them- first off- I'm a full contact stick fighter and have been looking for a wood that's very resilient, can take a beating and keep on ticking so to speak- the staffs I use are usually from 32" to 50" - I've tried red and white oak and wasn't too impressed- what wood would you recommend for such a task? Next - What wood did the North American Indians make their bows out of and how did they do it? Here in the West there's not a huge selection- typical Tribes here are Sioux and Cree. They didn't have the tools the Europeans use and I've never seen a documentary on how they managed to make so many bows and arrows. Great Video!

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  10 місяців тому

      I’d use hickory, especially in the west where it’s so dry it really shines

  • @charlesrooker989
    @charlesrooker989 10 місяців тому

    Have any experience with Dogwood
    I found a log straight and knot free , thinner narrower than my Hickory bow
    Both 60 # @ 28"
    I want to put in a slight recurve but was told the boiling process will check the wood ,would Heat bending work , I took out some deflex out of the top limb with a heat gun with no problems and the adjustment held up without having to repeat the process.
    I think it shoots faster through the cron tips are narrower at the knocks.

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  10 місяців тому +1

      Dogwood is good stuff. Like hickory crossed with ironwood. It can be tricky to heat bend recurves with dry heat though. So don’t try to treat it like osage. I’ve used either steam or boiling water

  • @ryanbeard1119
    @ryanbeard1119 10 місяців тому

    What bevel angle is the draw k if in this video. I have a non chisel edge draw and it kinda sucks.

  • @mtman2
    @mtman2 10 місяців тому +1

    Shagbark Hickory is the dense's of all the Hickory's...!
    Rock Elm is the tuffest Elm & best to 1st ruff saw out...!
    Two resilient woods that flex extremely well & not break...!

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  10 місяців тому +1

      I like pignut and bitternut hickory more but shagbark is good too. For some reason I see a lot of bug damage in the shagbark staves I’ve cut

    • @mtman2
      @mtman2 10 місяців тому

      ​@@DanSantanaBows
      Likely Powder-Post Beetles; learned to put staves high on overhead rafters inside or even an attic...!
      One could even wrap'em in a fine cloth till dried hard...!
      Haven't made bows often started 1976 with Shagbark...!
      Mostley make staffs = walking/hiking sticks, canes some very artistic, defensive/spear staffs(made for ColdSteel Bushman) also for Medeival festival events- decorative or stout "Little John+Robinhood" repos...!

  • @drgonzo305
    @drgonzo305 7 місяців тому

    You should get your hands on some Chinese elm or leatherback elm. It has a deep brown to red heartwood with that same elm grain and figure. You can find them in mall parking lots down here in Florida

  • @AwenAwakenings
    @AwenAwakenings 8 місяців тому

    We have a ton of locust where I live. I heard it's a good bow wood.

  • @bayfilly1
    @bayfilly1 10 місяців тому

    So interesting !! I have a 25' American Yellowwood tree on my property that will need to come down in the next 5-6 years. Are you familiar with this species? The color would be amazing, but not sure about its suitability for archery. Thanks for the great video

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  10 місяців тому

      I’ve never used it but I figure it’ll make good bow wood

  • @tuco_saalamanca
    @tuco_saalamanca 7 місяців тому

    Make video about Indian woods, tell us which wood can we use for bow making.

  • @kennethbriody8396
    @kennethbriody8396 10 місяців тому +2

    Desert iron wood will not rot for centuries

  • @donarmando916
    @donarmando916 8 місяців тому

    Juniper look absolutely beautiful. Sadly there are no trunks large enough for a guitar.

  • @radagast6682
    @radagast6682 6 місяців тому

    I have a piece of Bitternut Hickory with a bit of a twist at one end. Is there a way to get the twist out of the wood?
    I have read that you should leave a bit of sapwood on the back of the bow. Is this a good idea?

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  6 місяців тому +1

      Use the underbark surface for the back of the bow. My video the back of the bow 6 ways will explain what you need to understand about the back of the bow.
      Twist is generally not a huge deal as long as it’s less than 90 degrees between the limbs. If you want recurves that will be an alignment hassle but it’s not a dealbreaker for a longbow

    • @radagast6682
      @radagast6682 6 місяців тому

      @@DanSantanaBows Thank you. I have removed the bark, and the sapwood has worm holes. I will look for another piece of wood.

  • @ianlees1480
    @ianlees1480 11 місяців тому +1

    No mention of the Welsh bowmen who were the best archers in the world . The Welsh long bow eventually became the English
    long bow, who easily defeated a greatly larger army at the battle of Agincourt in France .The best overall wood is from the Yew tree.

    • @ronalddavis
      @ronalddavis 4 місяці тому

      why? because its british?

  • @jonojono763
    @jonojono763 10 місяців тому

    is there a video or more information about the bow at the start? It looks beautiful!

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  10 місяців тому

      www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/lbn320/longbow_carved_from_a_hickory_tree/?

  • @maniachill3069
    @maniachill3069 3 місяці тому

    Hello from Maine

  • @rottenwings
    @rottenwings 8 місяців тому

    Mr Mastercarver sir, I live on the other side of a big water sooooo.... What wood would you use for bows in northern europe? Ive used some local junipers, tried spuce failing a few times aaaand "rowan/mountain ash".

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  8 місяців тому +1

      Rowan all day. Juniper if you find a nice one. You could also look into the Sami 2 wood bows with a compression pine belly and laminated birch back

    • @rottenwings
      @rottenwings 8 місяців тому

      Thank you for the quick response, I have a juniper stave drying for next summer, maybe Ill find a rowan too suitable. Thanks again @@DanSantanaBows

    • @rottenwings
      @rottenwings 8 місяців тому

      @@DanSantanaBows Also I might be able to find some maple saplings decent sized

  • @jonathanbennison9220
    @jonathanbennison9220 9 місяців тому

    Planning some board Bows, and some Bow projects...
    I should also have a maple. Tree to find. Some staves from...
    Curious about advice to compliment maple.
    You've described Maple as
    Strong vs tension (bow back)
    Weaker vs compression (set) (belly)

    • @DanSantanaBows
      @DanSantanaBows  9 місяців тому

      Maple is a great classic example of a whitewood. They’ll all tend to do better in flatter bows with a good heat treat. You can still make a longbow but don’t round the belly too much. See both of my maple build alongs for more details

    • @jonathanbennison9220
      @jonathanbennison9220 9 місяців тому

      @@DanSantanaBows I'm absolutely watching those on repeat.
      My plan is to make some simple. Board Bows first, so I CNA test and learn and practice.
      Then I should be able to plan the maple staves.