What would be the pros or cons of tapering the limbs to the fades? I like the aesthetics more, but don't want to mess it up. Bow is in layout. Red oak, planning on 70-72", 35lb draw at 28". Thank you
@@kf4293 Hi KF, I only just saw your comment now, youtube flagged it as spam (go figure) and I never noticed. I’m not sure what the alternative would be. If you don’t taper the limbs you’ll get too much bending from the middle and a bad tiller. If you’ve ever bent a random stick you’ll notice that without the taper it mainly bends in the middle and has stiff outer limbs
@@tonymaurice4157 What draw length and style of bow? I can only suggest rough-out dimensions-the true dimensions will be revealed by the tillering process
Thank you, Marcos. I really love this album and it was so fun to work with. I had to listen over and over and over again while editing, and it was just as good every time
My son wanted a bow. My first thought was, ok, I can make him one. After all, it can't be that hard, a stick with a string attached to both ends. So I started researching and got really interested. Looks simple enough in the videos. Well, I'm almost done after starting in the middle of December. 1st one, grain was running crossed, I snapped it on first draw. Second one...wormhole found when final sanding. It is an awesome hobby/skill. I am really enjoying it. This video helped soooo much. Thank you and all the bow makers out there
How do you not have over 100k subs? No one is making this kind of content with the amount of information, great formatting and overall elegance that you are.
As a fence builder and surfboard shaped I find it fantastic that you use no electric tools. Even the music has no electric. Very calming. Thank you for this video. I may one day make a bow.
I just recently got into bow making being inspired by you, so I wanted to start off with something different. I started with an 80in ash sapling roughly 2.5in in diameter. I cut it down to 60in because the top was way too thin. I wanted to treat it like I was working on a real board bow, so I took time and effort in shaving each part carefully and removing the stuff areas. It was a pretty straight sapling, but I knew not properly drying it would make it have flaws, but I wanted to just use this as a practice opportunity before I commit to a board bow. I didn't have a draw knife, but I managed to find a spoke shaver, a paint scraper and a jack knife. For the last 3 days I've been whittling away at it. Today I started long string tillering, when I had the bow going nice and even, I attempted a short string tiller. I struggled to find the right draw length and strength for the tiller, either being too tight or too loose. At the time, I believed it to be the rope I found laying around was stretching quite a bit. When I got a decent tiller setup, I noticed a stuff spot near the center of the bow, so I undid the string and shaved away. Unfortunately, I think I shaved away too much. When I set up for the short tiller again, my bow snapped in that spot towards the front. It didn't completely break, but the break goes through the center of the bow and removing it would make the bow less than an inch thick around the grip. I learned a lot from the experience though and am excited to try again. I learned how to finally get down a decent timber hitch knot, that I took too much wood off of the stuff area, that I need to study more on short string tillering and bracing my bow properly. Although slightly discouraged by the outcome, I was expecting it to fail, since I didn't dry it properly and it being my first. I also should look at better ways to design my bow. I found I struggled to find ways to get my one end of the bow to be straight with the other. Lots of learning to do. Overall, I wanted to say thanks for your inspiration! Once I'm done practicing with saplings, I really want to attempt and commit to a board bow. So again, thank you!!
@@DanSantanaBows You motivated me so much, I started building one. But I am disppointed with myself. Although I am a hobbyist woodworker for over two decades with all the power tools and those for traditional woodworking, I trust I do not have a keen eye to see the hinges, if any, and how the two limbs are different from each other. So far the limbs have been flexed to 18" and 40 pounds. The bow has been backed with rawhide as I was scared. Cannot muster the courage to bend it beyond 18 inches. At wits end now.
Don’t worry that’s what a tiller check is for! Feel free to post as many as you need here on r/bowyer. www.reddit.com/r/Bowyer/ Make sure to post the front profile, side profile, and the drawn pic
Best in detail, and in depth (not limited to)Bowyer channel on UA-cam. Not limited because it contains magic. So much information. Invaluable to a beginner..I refer back to this all the time. Thanks
I've been making my own bows for 4 years now. I learned by watching UA-cam videos and none if them had this much info. I watched tons of videos to learn everything that's in this one video. Great job making this video. I dont use any backing on my bows, well if I run across a snake on my property I use the snake skin to back my bows.
Thanks Chris, just wanted something I could send to people with one single link and be done. I’m the same and definitely prefer unbacked bows. Recently a neighbor hit a garter snake with the lawnmower so I put the skins on a little crossbow prod
When I was a kid back in the 70's, we had big, I think oak, tree in the backyard. As kids do, we ended up making a couple of bows from "hand chosen"😆🤣 branches and bank line. We made "arrows" with no fletching or arrowheads and those things flew! Not straight but the had some velocity! It was all good fun and games until someone (not me, i swear) launched one through the neighbors window shattering the whole window. Yeah, well, our bow and arrow days were over, but point being, those things worked!!🏹🏹
Wonderful tutorial. My partner and I will be apart for eight months starting next week, and we've recently built several bows to your design. She's far better at it than I am. We're glad to have spent some of our time towards such a rewarding, challenging, and ultimately cathartic craft. Your passion for the art and its sustainment is truly touching. Thanks for it all, mate.
I have been watching how to make a self bow videos on youtube for years, dreaming of attempting one myself. This is by far the best and most comprehensive video that I have watched. You cover things that other bowyers take for granted. e.g. how to put a burr on a scraper, or sectional wood removal and you even covered proper wood grain. I'm now making my own tiller stand and scraper tool from an old plane blade. Looks like I will be raiding every Bunnings in my town for straight grain boards this weekend. Thanks for your hard work.
Wow thanks Jesse. Other bowyers were always very good to me when I was learning. I owe a lot to the past generations, especially the ones who passed down what they learned instead of losing it all to silly trade secrets
Une vidéo absolument magnifique ! Un savoir faire extraordinaire, des explications d'une précision parfaite, des images à couper le souffle, une musique envoûtante et discrète, joyeuse et originale... Franchement, un véritable documentaire, passionnant, et d'une qualité professionnelle irréprochable, qui mériterait largement d'être projeté sur grand écran. J'ai passé un moment délicieux et instructif. Merci infiniment.
This video is insanely good! I was going to make a recurve for my first bow but I think I'll start with a long bow design to begin. I was playing around with some left over ash I had and realized how flexible it is and thought wow this would be great for my first bow! Thanks for all the tips.
Great choice! Recurves do have some benefits on paper but for self bows to capitalize on them you have to jump through many difficult hoops. If you miss any of them, a flatbow would perform better anyway. So I always recommend starting with a straight stave design and focusing on the ABCs first
I've watched this three full times now. It gets better each time. Your cousin is an incredible player, giving me some Francisco Tárrega vibes, that I really enjoy.
Thanks man I’m really glad to hear that! Usually I’m sick of the music by the time I’m done editing, but I can’t get tired of his stuff. Marcos brought a lot of life to the channel!
One of the most beautiful crafting videos I have seen. I initially planned to watch it later, but after the first couple of minutes I couldn't stop and ended up watching it right then and there.
This was so enjoyable to watch. Just the right information density, calmly and clearly explained. Even more than that, a beautifully shot video and I liked the music, too! It's amazing when aesthetics and utility go hand-in-hand.
I honestly think I probably have watched all the board-Bo videos out there, and you have made the best! Thank you I'll probably end up watching this many many times.
Your videos are works of art, and they are the final kick up the arse that's getting me to finally take up this hobby. I have always been deeply interested, but have always been too lost to get going. Thank you for the inspiration and the effort you have put in to sharing your knowledge.
I did a weeklong bowyer camp when I was 11 and the bow is still in my closet. I've been looking into bow making for a while because I want to get into archery (there's a range near my house) and this video so far has been super helpful. It's nice when the process is explained in a way that allows amateurs like me to understand what I need and don't need to do. A lot of other videos, while helpful, involve a lot of tools and time (6 months - 2 years to allow the wood to season if you harvest yourself) that I think may scare people away from bow making.
That’s why I always recommend starting with a board bow while you wait for your staves to dry. Also check out the quick drying video if you’d like to get started sooner. Good luck and let me know if you have any more questions!
Great content. Thank you. And: with that voice you could do a 3 hour instruction on how to watch paint dry and it would still be great. One of the best and most calming voices around!
I'VE SEARCHED FOR DECADES FOR "THE PERFECT BOW-MAKING VIDEO", AND NEVER YET FOUND IT... ... UNTIL TODAY. UNTIL THIS VIDEO. NICELY DONE - PLUS you made it look FUN and EASY ! Cheers, -Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
@@DanSantanaBows I think it's perfect. Your use of closeups, drawings and the way you structured the how's and the why's leaves no room for misunderstanding or doubt. If I want to get a friend into bowmaking, this is the only video I'd need to show them.
Dan, youre an artistic man with a lovely speaking voice, your cousin makes great music to set a great feel, youre bow making knowledge is wonderful, youre tooling techniques are great, youre explanations are precise, you have access to good timber and hopefully are making a living from bow making. As a fellow bow maker Im proud of you, thankyou for your time and effort on utube. I tell others to check your site out. Regards Paul
I've been building bows board bows for about two years now and your video is one of the most informative, thank you. Last week I've stepped up from Red Oak that I had been using from Lowes to a stave of Yew for my first attempt using the optimal wood for a bow. After 8 bows This is my second or third time watching your video and I always learn something I'd missed from previous views, so thanks again!
I was getting into diy archery joined r/Bowyer A few weeks ago then found your channel a few days ago, thought you quit because covid then you make your magnum opus right when I need it best wood around here I could find was red oak and I'm going to start shaping it Sunday. I honestly think seeing your hour long video of technique helped more than reading saxon popes book over the last 2 months
Hey Dan! There are plenty of other channels making good videos and I learned a lot from them. But yours is special. You manage to transport something i cant even really describe. Its the music, the voice, the pictures, the style of your bows, your attitude. It clangs a deep feeling that I have from the first day i decided make a bow: That bowmaking is more than making bending sticks, that shoot smaller ones fast or cutting away what doesn't look like a bow. Its that. And so much more going much deeper. Thanks for sharing your work, knowledge and personality in such a.way.
@@DanSantanaBows You mean Prunus Cerasus virginiana? That would be PCV, propably a typing mistake... ;) Serious: Actually i find those PVC bows interesting but i dont want to make these. But they dont ruin any vibe in my opinion.
Haha good one. You might feel differently if you try them. PVC is fun because you can almost make horn bow profiles that would not be possible with only wood. Performance is not as good as a good wooden bow or a real horn bow, but you can make them in a couple hours. Of course I don’t love them like my wood bows but they’re also great for learning bow design principles so I have changed my feelings about pvc Plus…the videos unfortunately tend to be way more popular than self bows, but at least it’s a fun way to get people interested in the craft.
@@DanSantanaBows Well bowmaking is pretty much about curiosity, so I shouldnt say no before trying. Ah and since we are talking... XD I have a little tweak you could try out, when you cut thin leather as for the arrwopass in the video: Its much easier to cut thin leather if you laminate a thin paper on the backside before. Just apply some slightly thinned woodglue to a piece of paper, like newspaper or thin junkmail and let the fibres of the paper swell for maybe 20 seconds. Then laminate the leather onto it and apply some pressure with your hands and let it dry. The paper makes the leather stiff and keeping its dimensional shape while cutting, so you have more control over the shape and avoid the effect, that the leather stretches while cutting, ruining the shape. You can sketch the wanted shape onto the paper and follow the lines while cutting. You can even bevel the edges of the cut out leather from the paperside. That will take some tryouts before you got the right shape of edeg-bevelling. When you glue the leather on to a survace and apply some pressure to the edges (maybe with a bonefolder), then the leather will get some kind of a cussion like appearel. I used this technique as a bookbinder, when cutting titel labels out of thin leather to apply them on the back of a book. Just an idea.
@@hansimgluck9207 One thing i’ve noticed is that most garment or upholstery leather is way too soft for most things I do. I really like untanned or semi tanned since it’s much tougher, molds better, and crisper to cut and tool. Except for the arrow pass bit where it has to be soft suede if you want to dampen noise. I’ll try out that paper trick, seems like it would help. Thanks!
I am so looking forward to start making my own bow, you and a couple of other bowyers have made amazing content on bow making and this has been wonderful to watch over a cup of coffee. Thanks for this!
Absolutely love this. Such a well made, poignant, and straightforward tutorial. I went out today to harvest a bunch of huge dead standing scotch boom. Found 2 perfect pieces 4" diameter 60" long, well seasoned and free of cracks. Man did I get Lucky. am now working alongside your video. Thanks so much.
Thanks Steve, but be careful with dead standing wood. If it’s not a rot resistant species like juniper, osage, or yew it won’t be good for very long. I do have a few juniper videos with dead standing wood if you want an example anyway. Also check out ch1 of the step by step guide on my blog. There are some extra tips for if you’re planning on using natural staves instead of lumber. Good luck and let me know if you have more questions, or post on r/bowyer where you can post pictures and get other opinions too
Thanks Dan! This will be my third attempt with the scotchbroom. I'm a knifemaker by trade, but more than anything I'm a maker. So when something takes my fancy I dive in pretty deep. usually attempting to make anything that associates with it when and if it's within my wheelhouse. Glad I found your channel and can't wait for the next video!
Alrighty, well I'm glad I was stubborn about using the dead standing stuff. The failures I experienced gave me a much better understanding of what will go wrong if I don't address certain issues from the get.. Especially your point that unseen degradación of the wood can exist and will most Likely result in catastrophic failure or a bad set. Of the 4 scotchbroom bows I attempted only one shoots (and it's a very low draw weight.) Still fun to make something that shoots though! On to the next!
Ok so this time i went and bought maple boards and followed your plans. I got much much better result. But i was a little too eager with floor tillering and was basically ready to brace by the time i had the longstring on. I completely overshot my draw weight because of that i believe. Ended up at 25lbs 28". But still fun to shoot. I at one point must have overstressed the 1/3 section closest to the riser because i ended up with chrysals. The board also has some mild curly figure which the chrysals seem to be following. Ive put about 60 arrows through so im gonna just call it a successful lesson learned. About to longstring tiller the next one right now remembering "that its important to always pull with your intended draw weight" as you said
I can't believe that you're just gonna do me like this. Man is serving his string, showing us how that looks, and then adding MYSTERY GOOO ONTO IT. My DOOD, what are you gooping on there?!
Your video has helped me create my first bow, I’m in the process of tillering as we speak and should be done by Monday and ready to test. I appreciate this video so much, I blew out my knee and am in able to do athletics and this hobby/art has become my saving grace. So thankful I came across this
Thank you for the Video. I was not expecting to watch a bow making video today. But boy I did watch the whole thing. The music you added from your cousin matched perfectly and was very relaxing. Keep up your good work. Feels like art to me. I guess I have to make a bow now..... Greetings from Germany
Well well, I followed your video, I made the maple bow exact to your video. I now have an excellent bow to my collection. Shoots really well. Mind you, first one broke. Second one is amazing. Thanks bro. Keep up with these great videos.
I was looking at sling making when this popped up. Makes me want to have a go. Theres always a special satisfaction in using something you made yourself. Our martial arts club is introducing archery. A wooden bow would be much more fiitting to the tradition.
@@DanSantanaBows Thanks, I may well do that. I'm encouraged to see that you can even start with green wood. How do you know what species of tree will give suitable timber?There are lots of dying ash trees locally. I also have some old holly (european) and cherry logs. in my garage. I made a staff from a tall type of cotoneaster - thats very dense and close-grained.
@@DanSantanaBows Got it, thanks. Thats a long list . I reckon when it comes to any unlisted wood, i could probably find someting online comparing it to one of those.
@@DanSantanaBows unfortunately i didnt know about sealing the cut ends back when i stored them, but theyre large, so maybe theres good stuff between the splits?
Ooh, a bow making channel, I'll watch a few minutes and see if they're any good... 50 minutes later: Oops, I forgot to make dinner, wait, is the video over already? How can a video be this relaxing and yet still make me want to get up, build a wood shop, raid the lumber department of my local home improvement store, and start work on a grand bow making project all before I go to bed tonight? Safe to say that you have earned a subscription from me today 🙂
I recently came back to archery but sadly a poor storage ruined my recurve bow's limbs. I decided my next bow will be an oak 1.65m longbow and thanks to youe video i spend a lovely hour sinking into really good techniques and ideas to improove my design and ways to work the piece. Thanks for the content and also the calm and fluid music wich pairs nicely with your voice and content. Thanks again for your kindness and knowledge shared. Greatings from Spain.
Nerozumím sice dobře anglicky,ale toto video je skvělý, provedený do detailů i pro laika který nemá znalosti z truhlariny a pokud se bude řídit tímto videem tak dosáhne jistě skvělého výsledku nejen při výrobě luků,ale využije rady i v jiných truhlářských pracech.skvele udělané video.cim víc bude takovích šikovných lidí tím lépe.snad bude naděje že bude lidstvo umět něco jiného než si vše (vyrobit) kliknutím.dekuji
The structure, clarity of information, and transition shots in this video made me feel like I attended a 5 day workshop. I am filled with inspiration and cannot wait to begin this journey. Thank you Dan!
Bro youre litterally the best on this platform. Your videos always gives me goosebumps. Ive been trying to get into making a bow and you have been the most helpful thanks!
Thank you so much for sharing this video! I've been working with wood for many years now and a self-made bow is my next project. Your material is a huge help, I'll be digging into your channel a lot more and learn all I can before tackling the build. I already have some straight-grained sugar maple that'll be perfect, I've already made a Bo staff out of it. Great choice of music by the way, and great editing, the natural scenery sections were nice and soothing. Cheers!
Very nice tutorial! I really appreciate being able to watch how other bowyers make their bows and apply it to my own. I have been making bows for a while but still often feel like I don't know enough. Thanks for your dedication to the art!
@@maxncathy44 Sure thing that’s what I used in the video. Hard maple refers to sugar maple plus a few other species of similarly dense maples. The soft maples like red and silver maple aren’t quite as good
I came here to learn about bending wood :) I’m learning to make chairs, but figured you guys know quite a lot about wood fibers. Really great charts on fiber orientations!
I stumbled on this video about 2 weeks ago and it totally inspired me to try and make one. I'm a woodworker and a bow hunter and have been wanting a longbow just to shoot for fun. So, this was perfect. Gave me a great excuse to buy a couple new tools, and learn some new skills. Now, Im totally hooked on the whole bowyer thing, and you're to blame.. thank you! Lol. A can't wait to start my next one...
Working on a bow while watching this! So much good information I didn't know or didn't appreciate the importance of thanks for the lesson! Awesome bows Awesome video thanks for helping us new guys!
@@DanSantanaBows I had quite a bit of scap maple and a 48 inch maple board so i decided to make my own Frankenstein monster just for the practice and experience! I split the 48" board in half glued a 12" piece to give a 7 3/4 handle section and plan on adding static recurve/siyah. Not expecting it to be anything but some fun and practice! Ill post it on r/bowyer here soon.
I love your videos, I subscribed after the first one I watched. I read all the bibles years ago, and have made a few bows over the years. Never had an efficient one yet. I want to thank you for taking the time to make such well thought out instructions for the world. The information is presented faultlessly. I also would like to pay my thanks to your cousin, he is a remarkable player. The song you used for 'shooting in' was my absolute favourite so far. Well done, and thank you. Rob.
I'm so glad I found this video! This is so incredibly helpful and exactly what a total beginner like me needs, thank you so much for this. I've been watching so many videos to try and get started but none of them come anywhere close to being as helpful and information packed as this video. Again, thank you so much!
Check out my new blog for more pictures and step by step instructions dansantanabows.com/how-to-make-a-board-bow/
What would be the pros or cons of tapering the limbs to the fades? I like the aesthetics more, but don't want to mess it up.
Bow is in layout. Red oak, planning on 70-72", 35lb draw at 28".
Thank you
@@kf4293 Hi KF, I only just saw your comment now, youtube flagged it as spam (go figure) and I never noticed.
I’m not sure what the alternative would be. If you don’t taper the limbs you’ll get too much bending from the middle and a bad tiller. If you’ve ever bent a random stick you’ll notice that without the taper it mainly bends in the middle and has stiff outer limbs
@@DanSantanaBows What dimensions do you think would work for a 75lb maple bow? I have a 75 inch stave
@Not to be messed with We keep them around for the monarchs. You can actually eat the flower buds if you blanch them first
@@tonymaurice4157 What draw length and style of bow? I can only suggest rough-out dimensions-the true dimensions will be revealed by the tillering process
I have to say of the hundreds of instructional videos I've watched this is the most well thought out and presented, very much appreciated !
Thank you, hope it helps!
Agreed, 100%. Clay Hayes was my go to, now I come here first.
check out Weylin Olive from swiftwood bows. His buildalongs taught me more than anything
Amazing video! Thanks so much to have my music in your video Daniel! Cheers!
Thank you, Marcos. I really love this album and it was so fun to work with. I had to listen over and over and over again while editing, and it was just as good every time
Marcos you are truly a gifted musician !!! Keep up the outstanding work!!
@@DanSantanaBows thanks Daniel! Keep in touch
@@Gauchooriental thanks Omar!
@@Gauchooriental Thanks Omar! Daniel tiene un gran trabajo muy lindo!
My son wanted a bow. My first thought was, ok, I can make him one. After all, it can't be that hard, a stick with a string attached to both ends. So I started researching and got really interested. Looks simple enough in the videos. Well, I'm almost done after starting in the middle of December. 1st one, grain was running crossed, I snapped it on first draw. Second one...wormhole found when final sanding. It is an awesome hobby/skill. I am really enjoying it. This video helped soooo much. Thank you and all the bow makers out there
How do you not have over 100k subs? No one is making this kind of content with the amount of information, great formatting and overall elegance that you are.
Wow, thank you. I’m just getting started!
Very informative.. I'm a long time archer, just starting to build my own. Much appreciated, subbed.
Thx
As a fence builder and surfboard shaped I find it fantastic that you use no electric tools. Even the music has no electric.
Very calming.
Thank you for this video.
I may one day make a bow.
Glad to hear! Good luck and let me know if you need any tips
Two words: audio books
You got a good voice.
wonderful video! even toned narration and great instruction. I'm looking forward to sharing this w/ my boys and building our own.
Good luck! Visit me on r/bowyer if you need a tiller check and feel free to post as many questions as you desire
I just recently got into bow making being inspired by you, so I wanted to start off with something different. I started with an 80in ash sapling roughly 2.5in in diameter. I cut it down to 60in because the top was way too thin. I wanted to treat it like I was working on a real board bow, so I took time and effort in shaving each part carefully and removing the stuff areas. It was a pretty straight sapling, but I knew not properly drying it would make it have flaws, but I wanted to just use this as a practice opportunity before I commit to a board bow. I didn't have a draw knife, but I managed to find a spoke shaver, a paint scraper and a jack knife. For the last 3 days I've been whittling away at it. Today I started long string tillering, when I had the bow going nice and even, I attempted a short string tiller. I struggled to find the right draw length and strength for the tiller, either being too tight or too loose. At the time, I believed it to be the rope I found laying around was stretching quite a bit. When I got a decent tiller setup, I noticed a stuff spot near the center of the bow, so I undid the string and shaved away. Unfortunately, I think I shaved away too much. When I set up for the short tiller again, my bow snapped in that spot towards the front. It didn't completely break, but the break goes through the center of the bow and removing it would make the bow less than an inch thick around the grip. I learned a lot from the experience though and am excited to try again. I learned how to finally get down a decent timber hitch knot, that I took too much wood off of the stuff area, that I need to study more on short string tillering and bracing my bow properly. Although slightly discouraged by the outcome, I was expecting it to fail, since I didn't dry it properly and it being my first. I also should look at better ways to design my bow. I found I struggled to find ways to get my one end of the bow to be straight with the other. Lots of learning to do. Overall, I wanted to say thanks for your inspiration! Once I'm done practicing with saplings, I really want to attempt and commit to a board bow. So again, thank you!!
This is a great video. I wish I found this 10 years ago it would have saved me a lot of wasted money
we all gotta break a few and waste some money here and there, it happens
Fabulous
The best traditional bow tutorial. Thank you!
thanks Tony, let me know you if you have any issues!
Dan Santana, God of Bows and Drawknives!
Huges from Brazil. Great tutorial.
Excellent video! Also my wife bought the album. She wants to hear the song 'Anaclara' as our morning alarm. High praise!
Glad to hear, I’ll tell my cousin! I never get sick of his music, that’s one of my favorites too
Hi Calvin, I feel so glad to know that! Thanks so much
This is the greatest instructional video I have seen in all my years of watching UA-cam. It is superb, and the bow is an elegant work of art.
This is a perfect video, packed with information, for a person aspiring to make the first bow. Excellent! What a pleasure to watch it.
Thanks Amer. Good luck with your bow and let me know if you have any questions
@@DanSantanaBows You motivated me so much, I started building one. But I am disppointed with myself. Although I am a hobbyist woodworker for over two decades with all the power tools and those for traditional woodworking, I trust I do not have a keen eye to see the hinges, if any, and how the two limbs are different from each other. So far the limbs have been flexed to 18" and 40 pounds. The bow has been backed with rawhide as I was scared. Cannot muster the courage to bend it beyond 18 inches. At wits end now.
Don’t worry that’s what a tiller check is for! Feel free to post as many as you need here on r/bowyer. www.reddit.com/r/Bowyer/
Make sure to post the front profile, side profile, and the drawn pic
@@DanSantanaBows Thank you. Let me try that.
Best in detail, and in depth (not limited to)Bowyer channel on UA-cam. Not limited because it contains magic. So much information. Invaluable to a beginner..I refer back to this all the time. Thanks
Thanks musaad! it’s been awesome to see all the bows folks have made following the video
I've been making my own bows for 4 years now. I learned by watching UA-cam videos and none if them had this much info. I watched tons of videos to learn everything that's in this one video. Great job making this video. I dont use any backing on my bows, well if I run across a snake on my property I use the snake skin to back my bows.
Thanks Chris, just wanted something I could send to people with one single link and be done. I’m the same and definitely prefer unbacked bows. Recently a neighbor hit a garter snake with the lawnmower so I put the skins on a little crossbow prod
When I was a kid back in the 70's, we had big, I think oak, tree in the backyard. As kids do, we ended up making a couple of bows from "hand chosen"😆🤣 branches and bank line. We made "arrows" with no fletching or arrowheads and those things flew! Not straight but the had some velocity! It was all good fun and games until someone (not me, i swear) launched one through the neighbors window shattering the whole window. Yeah, well, our bow and arrow days were over, but point being, those things worked!!🏹🏹
Good to see You back. Thank You for sharing.
Wonderful tutorial. My partner and I will be apart for eight months starting next week, and we've recently built several bows to your design. She's far better at it than I am. We're glad to have spent some of our time towards such a rewarding, challenging, and ultimately cathartic craft. Your passion for the art and its sustainment is truly touching. Thanks for it all, mate.
Glad to hear you’re sharing the craft together. Hope bowmaking keeps you close
That is one of the best bow building videos I've seen
thanks Waynr!
I have been watching how to make a self bow videos on youtube for years, dreaming of attempting one myself. This is by far the best and most comprehensive video that I have watched. You cover things that other bowyers take for granted. e.g. how to put a burr on a scraper, or sectional wood removal and you even covered proper wood grain. I'm now making my own tiller stand and scraper tool from an old plane blade. Looks like I will be raiding every Bunnings in my town for straight grain boards this weekend. Thanks for your hard work.
Wow thanks Jesse. Other bowyers were always very good to me when I was learning. I owe a lot to the past generations, especially the ones who passed down what they learned instead of losing it all to silly trade secrets
Une vidéo absolument magnifique !
Un savoir faire extraordinaire, des explications d'une précision parfaite, des images à couper le souffle, une musique envoûtante et discrète, joyeuse et originale...
Franchement, un véritable documentaire, passionnant, et d'une qualité professionnelle irréprochable, qui mériterait largement d'être projeté sur grand écran.
J'ai passé un moment délicieux et instructif.
Merci infiniment.
Thank you Ling!
This is a SUPERB video and an EXCELLENT channel.
This video is insanely good! I was going to make a recurve for my first bow but I think I'll start with a long bow design to begin. I was playing around with some left over ash I had and realized how flexible it is and thought wow this would be great for my first bow! Thanks for all the tips.
Great choice! Recurves do have some benefits on paper but for self bows to capitalize on them you have to jump through many difficult hoops. If you miss any of them, a flatbow would perform better anyway. So I always recommend starting with a straight stave design and focusing on the ABCs first
Yes sir~ Welcome back sir~
Thanks Bum Bum Butter, glad to be back! plenty of stuff coming soon
I will probably never make a bow, but I am a woodworker so anything is possible. Great content. Well written and produced.
I watch ur videos to relax before bed
I've watched this three full times now. It gets better each time. Your cousin is an incredible player, giving me some Francisco Tárrega vibes, that I really enjoy.
Thanks man I’m really glad to hear that! Usually I’m sick of the music by the time I’m done editing, but I can’t get tired of his stuff. Marcos brought a lot of life to the channel!
One of the most beautiful crafting videos I have seen. I initially planned to watch it later, but after the first couple of minutes I couldn't stop and ended up watching it right then and there.
Wow, thanks!
This was so enjoyable to watch. Just the right information density, calmly and clearly explained. Even more than that, a beautifully shot video and I liked the music, too! It's amazing when aesthetics and utility go hand-in-hand.
Great video w/ wonderful teachings and fantastic music!!!!
I honestly think I probably have watched all the board-Bo videos out there, and you have made the best! Thank you I'll probably end up watching this many many times.
Thanks George! Visit us at r/bowyer if you need a tiller check
Your videos are works of art, and they are the final kick up the arse that's getting me to finally take up this hobby. I have always been deeply interested, but have always been too lost to get going. Thank you for the inspiration and the effort you have put in to sharing your knowledge.
Been there before! Good luck and let me know if you have any questions
I did a weeklong bowyer camp when I was 11 and the bow is still in my closet. I've been looking into bow making for a while because I want to get into archery (there's a range near my house) and this video so far has been super helpful. It's nice when the process is explained in a way that allows amateurs like me to understand what I need and don't need to do. A lot of other videos, while helpful, involve a lot of tools and time (6 months - 2 years to allow the wood to season if you harvest yourself) that I think may scare people away from bow making.
That’s why I always recommend starting with a board bow while you wait for your staves to dry. Also check out the quick drying video if you’d like to get started sooner. Good luck and let me know if you have any more questions!
Great content. Thank you.
And: with that voice you could do a 3 hour instruction on how to watch paint dry and it would still be great. One of the best and most calming voices around!
I'VE SEARCHED FOR DECADES FOR "THE PERFECT BOW-MAKING VIDEO", AND NEVER YET FOUND IT...
... UNTIL TODAY. UNTIL THIS VIDEO.
NICELY DONE - PLUS you made it look FUN and EASY !
Cheers,
-Mark Vogt | VOGTLAND OUTDOORS
Cheers Mark, good shooting to ya and thanks for the really kind words
Amazing ressource! So much important info packed into this video. This will help so many people
Thanks for stopping by again Mongeese! Let me know if there are any parts that weren’t clear. I can always add more in the blog version
@@DanSantanaBows I think it's perfect. Your use of closeups, drawings and the way you structured the how's and the why's leaves no room for misunderstanding or doubt.
If I want to get a friend into bowmaking, this is the only video I'd need to show them.
Dan, youre an artistic man with a lovely speaking voice, your cousin makes great music to set a great feel, youre bow making knowledge is wonderful, youre tooling techniques are great, youre explanations are precise, you have access to good timber and hopefully are making a living from bow making. As a fellow bow maker Im proud of you, thankyou for your time and effort on utube. I tell others to check your site out. Regards Paul
Found this from your post on Reddit... always wanted to make a bow... thanks much for this tutorial!
sure thing! let me know if you ever need a tiller check or have any questions
I've been building bows board bows for about two years now and your video is one of the most informative, thank you. Last week I've stepped up from Red Oak that I had been using from Lowes to a stave of Yew for my first attempt using the optimal wood for a bow. After 8 bows This is my second or third time watching your video and I always learn something I'd missed from previous views, so thanks again!
Thanks John and good luck with the yew bow!
I just found this video. And amongst the many types i realized that Long bows are the best. And some day i would like one of my own.
there’s a big advantage to the simplicity. What they don’t have in performance they definitely make up for in trustworthiness and lack of fussiness
I was getting into diy archery joined r/Bowyer A few weeks ago then found your channel a few days ago, thought you quit because covid then you make your magnum opus right when I need it best wood around here I could find was red oak and I'm going to start shaping it Sunday. I honestly think seeing your hour long video of technique helped more than reading saxon popes book over the last 2 months
Thanks my friend that’s very kind. Hope to see your bow on r/bowyer. Good luck!
I hope your bow turned out as well as you hoped it would and if not I hope you don't give up!
Like the tune choices ya add to your vids.
Thanks Michael, was very glad to keep in the family this time
Hey Dan! There are plenty of other channels making good videos and I learned a lot from them. But yours is special. You manage to transport something i cant even really describe. Its the music, the voice, the pictures, the style of your bows, your attitude. It clangs a deep feeling that I have from the first day i decided make a bow: That bowmaking is more than making bending sticks, that shoot smaller ones fast or cutting away what doesn't look like a bow. Its that. And so much more going much deeper. Thanks for sharing your work, knowledge and personality in such a.way.
Thank you, that’s too kind. Next i’ll ruin the vibe yet again with another PVC bow video 😂
@@DanSantanaBows You mean Prunus Cerasus virginiana? That would be PCV, propably a typing mistake... ;) Serious: Actually i find those PVC bows interesting but i dont want to make these. But they dont ruin any vibe in my opinion.
Haha good one. You might feel differently if you try them. PVC is fun because you can almost make horn bow profiles that would not be possible with only wood. Performance is not as good as a good wooden bow or a real horn bow, but you can make them in a couple hours.
Of course I don’t love them like my wood bows but they’re also great for learning bow design principles so I have changed my feelings about pvc
Plus…the videos unfortunately tend to be way more popular than self bows, but at least it’s a fun way to get people interested in the craft.
@@DanSantanaBows Well bowmaking is pretty much about curiosity, so I shouldnt say no before trying. Ah and since we are talking... XD
I have a little tweak you could try out, when you cut thin leather as for the arrwopass in the video: Its much easier to cut thin leather if you laminate a thin paper on the backside before. Just apply some slightly thinned woodglue to a piece of paper, like newspaper or thin junkmail and let the fibres of the paper swell for maybe 20 seconds. Then laminate the leather onto it and apply some pressure with your hands and let it dry. The paper makes the leather stiff and keeping its dimensional shape while cutting, so you have more control over the shape and avoid the effect, that the leather stretches while cutting, ruining the shape. You can sketch the wanted shape onto the paper and follow the lines while cutting. You can even bevel the edges of the cut out leather from the paperside. That will take some tryouts before you got the right shape of edeg-bevelling. When you glue the leather on to a survace and apply some pressure to the edges (maybe with a bonefolder), then the leather will get some kind of a cussion like appearel. I used this technique as a bookbinder, when cutting titel labels out of thin leather to apply them on the back of a book. Just an idea.
@@hansimgluck9207 One thing i’ve noticed is that most garment or upholstery leather is way too soft for most things I do. I really like untanned or semi tanned since it’s much tougher, molds better, and crisper to cut and tool. Except for the arrow pass bit where it has to be soft suede if you want to dampen noise. I’ll try out that paper trick, seems like it would help. Thanks!
I made one exactly like this for a friend of mine and it turned out fantastic!
With the pandemic, I have watched most of the videos on UA-cam on bow making. This is one of the best. Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks very much Vicente. I think Ryan Gil’s Stone Age bow build is the best video on the internet hands down
I am so looking forward to start making my own bow, you and a couple of other bowyers have made amazing content on bow making and this has been wonderful to watch over a cup of coffee. Thanks for this!
Good luck! and let me know if you have any issues or questions
@@DanSantanaBows Much appreciated! Currently rummaging through the subreddit for bowyers.
@@ylleba also check out swiftwood bows here on youtube. Weylin is the best teacher out there
@@DanSantanaBows Thanks i'll check it out!
Thanks Dan. It's clear that you put allot of work and time into making this video! It was very educational and enjoyable.
Thanks for noticing! It was a damn good time though
Absolutely love this. Such a well made, poignant, and straightforward tutorial. I went out today to harvest a bunch of huge dead standing scotch boom. Found 2 perfect pieces 4" diameter 60" long, well seasoned and free of cracks. Man did I get Lucky. am now working alongside your video. Thanks so much.
Thanks Steve, but be careful with dead standing wood. If it’s not a rot resistant species like juniper, osage, or yew it won’t be good for very long. I do have a few juniper videos with dead standing wood if you want an example anyway. Also check out ch1 of the step by step guide on my blog. There are some extra tips for if you’re planning on using natural staves instead of lumber.
Good luck and let me know if you have more questions, or post on r/bowyer where you can post pictures and get other opinions too
Thanks Dan! This will be my third attempt with the scotchbroom. I'm a knifemaker by trade, but more than anything I'm a maker. So when something takes my fancy I dive in pretty deep. usually attempting to make anything that associates with it when and if it's within my wheelhouse. Glad I found your channel and can't wait for the next video!
Alrighty, well I'm glad I was stubborn about using the dead standing stuff. The failures I experienced gave me a much better understanding of what will go wrong if I don't address certain issues from the get.. Especially your point that unseen degradación of the wood can exist and will most Likely result in catastrophic failure or a bad set. Of the 4 scotchbroom bows I attempted only one shoots (and it's a very low draw weight.) Still fun to make something that shoots though! On to the next!
@@bobsagate8614 that’s the spirit. Good luck with the next!
Ok so this time i went and bought maple boards and followed your plans. I got much much better result. But i was a little too eager with floor tillering and was basically ready to brace by the time i had the longstring on. I completely overshot my draw weight because of that i believe. Ended up at 25lbs 28". But still fun to shoot. I at one point must have overstressed the 1/3 section closest to the riser because i ended up with chrysals. The board also has some mild curly figure which the chrysals seem to be following. Ive put about 60 arrows through so im gonna just call it a successful lesson learned. About to longstring tiller the next one right now remembering "that its important to always pull with your intended draw weight" as you said
I can't believe that you're just gonna do me like this. Man is serving his string, showing us how that looks, and then adding MYSTERY GOOO ONTO IT. My DOOD, what are you gooping on there?!
Superglue
@@DanSantanaBows Bowgods be praised, our Lord and saviors. He has spoken!
(Nah but despite the lols, thank you!)
Can I just say what a fantastic video you made. The bows are great but this video is 10/10
Best board-bow video I have seen. Like the music too. Just subbed to your channel.
Thanks James much appreciated!
Your video has helped me create my first bow, I’m in the process of tillering as we speak and should be done by Monday and ready to test. I appreciate this video so much, I blew out my knee and am in able to do athletics and this hobby/art has become my saving grace. So thankful I came across this
What am I doing here I got an exam tomorrow
Male instinctd
Did you pass?
Holy shit my too rn
@@dylanmoss1931same here hahahha
Your exam wont help you survive the apocolypse. This video will 😂
I love how you finished and textured this bow. Absolutely a wonderful video!
Accurate, informative instructions presented aesthetically. Sweet. Love your work, and art.
Thank you very much!
Thank you for the Video. I was not expecting to watch a bow making video today. But boy I did watch the whole thing. The music you added from your cousin matched perfectly and was very relaxing. Keep up your good work. Feels like art to me. I guess I have to make a bow now..... Greetings from Germany
Glad to hear! Visit us on r/bowyer if you need any help. May the bow gods be with you!
That music, and the outdoor scenes were PERFECT for this video. Great info!
Best tutorial I’ve seen!! Ty so much!
Well well, I followed your video, I made the maple bow exact to your video. I now have an excellent bow to my collection. Shoots really well. Mind you, first one broke. Second one is amazing. Thanks bro. Keep up with these great videos.
Congrats Slim! Awesome to hear. Great feeling seeing those first arrows fly
Ještě jednou veliké díky za toto video.kazdej kluk si jako malej vyráběl alespoň jednou luk.tohle už je vysoká lukařská.💓👌👏
This guy is amazing
Wow, this is gorgeous. Bow, presentation, music, videography.... all of it.
Thanks Matt! Let me know if you need any help with your bow
I was looking at sling making when this popped up. Makes me want to have a go. Theres always a special satisfaction in using something you made yourself.
Our martial arts club is introducing archery. A wooden bow would be much more fiitting to the tradition.
Good luck and visit us on r/bowyer if you need any help!
@@DanSantanaBows Thanks, I may well do that. I'm encouraged to see that you can even start with green wood. How do you know what species of tree will give suitable timber?There are lots of dying ash trees locally. I also have some old holly (european) and cherry logs. in my garage.
I made a staff from a tall type of cotoneaster - thats very dense and close-grained.
@@martinraeside Holly is great! Check out the link to a list in the description of the video for more
@@DanSantanaBows Got it, thanks. Thats a long list . I reckon when it comes to any unlisted wood, i could probably find someting online comparing it to one of those.
@@DanSantanaBows unfortunately i didnt know about sealing the cut ends back when i stored them, but theyre large, so maybe theres good stuff between the splits?
Ooh, a bow making channel, I'll watch a few minutes and see if they're any good... 50 minutes later: Oops, I forgot to make dinner, wait, is the video over already?
How can a video be this relaxing and yet still make me want to get up, build a wood shop, raid the lumber department of my local home improvement store, and start work on a grand bow making project all before I go to bed tonight? Safe to say that you have earned a subscription from me today 🙂
I recently came back to archery but sadly a poor storage ruined my recurve bow's limbs. I decided my next bow will be an oak 1.65m longbow and thanks to youe video i spend a lovely hour sinking into really good techniques and ideas to improove my design and ways to work the piece. Thanks for the content and also the calm and fluid music wich pairs nicely with your voice and content. Thanks again for your kindness and knowledge shared. Greatings from Spain.
Sorry I missed your comment. How’d the bow turn out?
Beautiful work, plus your cousin’s music and your voice go along very well. I learned a lot !
Thank you! I’m glad to hear
I live in Wisconsin but I’m in Dallas Texas now and I can’t wait to go home and make a bow.
Rooting for you! Let me know if you have any issues
Finally a video from you! Great to see you back man!!
Thanks my friend, very glad to be back!
Had no clue of bows but subscribed after this viedeo
Wow thanks a lot for publishing this. This is one of the best bow making video that I've ever seen. Keep up making those ha ha!
Thanks martin, sure thing!
Best instructions I’ve seen.
Thanks Rob, hope they help!
It was a pleasure to watch. Great production video. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks Roman, hope it helps!
Nerozumím sice dobře anglicky,ale toto video je skvělý, provedený do detailů i pro laika který nemá znalosti z truhlariny a pokud se bude řídit tímto videem tak dosáhne jistě skvělého výsledku nejen při výrobě luků,ale využije rady i v jiných truhlářských pracech.skvele udělané video.cim víc bude takovích šikovných lidí tím lépe.snad bude naděje že bude lidstvo umět něco jiného než si vše (vyrobit) kliknutím.dekuji
The structure, clarity of information, and transition shots in this video made me feel like I attended a 5 day workshop. I am filled with inspiration and cannot wait to begin this journey. Thank you Dan!
Bro youre litterally the best on this platform. Your videos always gives me goosebumps. Ive been trying to get into making a bow and you have been the most helpful thanks!
You’re voice is so calming and I’m happy I found a channel that answers all my questions
Production value: 100%
Subscribed.
Thank you so much for sharing this video!
I've been working with wood for many years now and a self-made bow is my next project. Your material is a huge help, I'll be digging into your channel a lot more and learn all I can before tackling the build. I already have some straight-grained sugar maple that'll be perfect, I've already made a Bo staff out of it.
Great choice of music by the way, and great editing, the natural scenery sections were nice and soothing.
Cheers!
Amazing, beautiful, brilliant, soothing, informative, creative content. I love it. Thanks for showing us this.
My pleasure Musaad, thanks for the kind words
Thoroughly enjoyed this, very relaxing, interesting, informative, plus your cousins music is awesome. Thanks!
Thanks Jim! He’ll even be making some original music for some upcoming videos. His links are in the description if you’d like to hear more.
Very nice tutorial! I really appreciate being able to watch how other bowyers make their bows and apply it to my own. I have been making bows for a while but still often feel like I don't know enough. Thanks for your dedication to the art!
I know how ya feel. Every bowyer is a student. Can’t grow out of it
Is hard maple a good wood for bows
@@maxncathy44 Sure thing that’s what I used in the video. Hard maple refers to sugar maple plus a few other species of similarly dense maples. The soft maples like red and silver maple aren’t quite as good
Amazing one guys
I'm just here for the videography! These are some high quality videos
Thanks! This one was filmed on cell phone 😂
I came here to learn about bending wood :) I’m learning to make chairs, but figured you guys know quite a lot about wood fibers. Really great charts on fiber orientations!
Bowyers are good at bending wood but shipwrights are better. Lacrosse stick makers can also pull off some very impressive bends
Excellent bow-making tutorial. I was looking for the PDF file of the tutorial you mentioned at the end, but couldn't find it. Thanks for sharing.
My website is currently down but it should be back up soon. There’s a more detailed step by step version of this video on there
Excellent! Tho I have built several bows, this tempered my knowledge even more. . .like tillering the brain!
I stumbled on this video about 2 weeks ago and it totally inspired me to try and make one. I'm a woodworker and a bow hunter and have been wanting a longbow just to shoot for fun. So, this was perfect. Gave me a great excuse to buy a couple new tools, and learn some new skills. Now, Im totally hooked on the whole bowyer thing, and you're to blame.. thank you! Lol. A can't wait to start my next one...
It was a pleasure to watch great production video. Thank you for sharing
Beautiful video. Inspiring and incredibly well recorded.
I could watch this for ever, what a fantastic video ! And what a sweet bow, well done Dan 👏
I’m loving all your videos. Not only for the information but for the artistic production. Well done, sir.
Beautiful bow, beautiful music, beautifully filmed video.
Best bow build video I have seen.... Great job!! You are an outstanding teacher my friend!!
Thanks very much Steve, not everyone should have to make all the learning mistakes I did. Hopefully this spares a few!
Working on a bow while watching this! So much good information I didn't know or didn't appreciate the importance of thanks for the lesson! Awesome bows Awesome video thanks for helping us new guys!
Glad to hear it, that’s what I was hoping for!
What kinda bow?
@@DanSantanaBows I had quite a bit of scap maple and a 48 inch maple board so i decided to make my own Frankenstein monster just for the practice and experience! I split the 48" board in half glued a 12" piece to give a 7 3/4 handle section and plan on adding static recurve/siyah. Not expecting it to be anything but some fun and practice! Ill post it on r/bowyer here soon.
Sounds fun, good luck!
I love your videos, I subscribed after the first one I watched. I read all the bibles years ago, and have made a few bows over the years. Never had an efficient one yet. I want to thank you for taking the time to make such well thought out instructions for the world. The information is presented faultlessly.
I also would like to pay my thanks to your cousin, he is a remarkable player. The song you used for 'shooting in' was my absolute favourite so far.
Well done, and thank you.
Rob.
My pleasure Rob, thanks for the kind words!
I'm so glad I found this video! This is so incredibly helpful and exactly what a total beginner like me needs, thank you so much for this. I've been watching so many videos to try and get started but none of them come anywhere close to being as helpful and information packed as this video. Again, thank you so much!