Scrap the entire exhaust, cat, headers, all of it. Get the DANMOTO GP system. it has the O2 sensor threaded insert. You will love the sound, performance, everything. I'm not plugging an ad, I'm a consumer. I found one online and took a chance on it. Best exhaust system I've ever had.
That long tube is making the deeper tone, don't cut it, enjoy it the way it is, I've tried different pipes on , the only real gains are weight savings, Honda stock pipes run best believe it not not .
Use a cheap decat-pipe (black-widow: 200$): it makes the stockexhaust sound really amazing! The black-widow pipe has a smaller inner-diameter as the stockpipe, so you may not need a remap, as it did not improve power. It just looks and sounds much better!
ShaveDaWhales I ended up cutting both tubes down all the way sounds so much better. I feels a little more toque at the low end, haven’t taken it out on the highway yet to see the difference there. But so far I like it so much better.
like the sound, but cant do this, as I ride in forrests etc and you have to have a spark arrestor to prevent fires, etc. On the road probably ok, but off road, .. wonder if the spark arrestors were lengthened if it would make a better sound, less reistance to the exhaust as there is a bigger surface area to get the gasses through? any At riders who may have done this
I was wondering, when removed, if the engine would run leaner to compensate for this and thus cause engine damage? I'm not sure how an Africa Twin would react to this change though? Would have to look at its wiring diagram to work it out.
@@steveh7857 probably not but then again if the CO catches you or you start a forest fire all the work for a louder bike with marginal added HP will suddenly seem like a bad idea.
Hey , thanks for your post , great video great way to present , i have learned a bunch , nice shop there ma n, i have a crf1000l2 2018 and are making the same predictable mods ,tires, luggage , lighting , seat and i am at exhaust now , looking to ride out of state and travel , if you ever come this way (NC) let me know , ,good riding .
madianto gloria Thanks man I getting ready to do a update on the mod. I ended up cutting back to the tip and then welding the screens back on.plus I just got my new shinko 804 & 805's in just have to get them on.
@@DualSportGuy , i am going to be ready with most of mine by , maybe the end of April , then go on to Ohio to touch and go at my father in law's place on my real try all to see how it all holds up including me since it is a 7 hours trick one way and back over a weekend, just about 1300 miles or so .
@@DualSportGuy did you do anything special to try to match the original angle, or just spot welded it straight on? Also did you worry about any gaps or leaks where you welded together?
Peccato che per il modello italiano come quello europeo i collettori di scarico dello scarico non sono estraibili ma saldati direttamente allo scarico per le nostre normative
@@DualSportGuy you too, you don't change your own tires? Where are you located, I'm in Mulvane (south of Wichita) let's get together for a ride. Thanks for your service as well. 👍
Mine too in Thailand BUT if you drill a hole, mine is 19mm in the end plate where the two exhaust pipes come out. Drill about halfway between them and off to the outside a bit sounds just right, throaty but not too loud. I also made a plate with two bolts and captive nuts so I can close it off in 5 min if required .
I cut mine all along the rear seam, cut the two tubes as short as I could and then a few 10mm holes in the visible baffle plate that I could reach. I then took the silencer to an exhaust shop who rewelded the two bits together(stainless welding), put it back on the bike and there is only a very small increase in sound. The fit is perfect and no leaks.
I dont know what Kansas or anywhere else is like but In the past at least a LOT of forest ranger types around here? They like to keep a rod handy which they like to shove up your hole if things look or sound suspicious ....In their defense California is a tender box for fire so that is probably at least some of the motivation ...another will be that certain among them probably just hate motorcycles (and off roadish vehicles in general) driving around in "their" jurisdiction you know way more partial to the hiker types ....anyway just want readers to consider THAT possibility ....which maybe if it looks and sound stock enough? 3 out of four rangers probably would not even bother ....but that other one out of 4 ranger ? The one who religiously shoves their little stick up EVERY exhaust orifice?....THAT could be a bad day for having done such a seemingly minor little mod....no? What is the fine? Anyone know? Anyone ever have their vehicle towed for lack of spark arrestor? ....Many years ago in the canyons of los angeles county the chp would actually bring a truck with a great big ass flat bed trailer and flag down EVERY motorcycle with an illegal exhaust and take the bikes ....ALL of em with aftermarket exhaust I believe ....that was more about noise than anything else ...a bunch of rich folks and celebrity types in very high priced canyon homes just got sick of the noise every weekend and demanded that law enforcement did something ....THAT was their answer Somehow I escaped every one of those but can you imagine the expense and hassle! Have to call a cab or friend to come get you and then go the next week and pay all the towing and impound fees not to mention a fine, not to mention having to bolt the stock set up back on take it to marshal to get it signed off etc....pain in the ASS....makes you start loving your stock exhaust more and more
Dougie Quick I hear ya thats why I made another video showing how I welded the arrestors screens back on just for that reason check it out if you would to see how I did it and thanks for the comments I like hear feed back
In my EU version I had to cut in order to make this mod, but there is a much difference! It was worth it.
yes the e4 is differet the support of rear protection is welded to exaust :(
This guy has a coffin in the garage!!! He's my friend
Ya we use it at Halloween
Scrap the entire exhaust, cat, headers, all of it. Get the DANMOTO GP system. it has the O2 sensor threaded insert. You will love the sound, performance, everything. I'm not plugging an ad, I'm a consumer. I found one online and took a chance on it. Best exhaust system I've ever had.
Super, 👏
Dave Ogle
Gotta hear it. Yeah ditch the cat but sound is everything. For now I like what cutie boy did.
I'm thinking about doing This! Apparently it will make the engine run slightly leaner!?
ride hard stay blessed
That long tube is making the deeper tone, don't cut it, enjoy it the way it is, I've tried different pipes on , the only real gains are weight savings, Honda stock pipes run best believe it not not .
so you suggest cutting the spark arrester and leave as much tube as possible?
I read the stock exhaust is actually much lighter than it looks
Use a cheap decat-pipe (black-widow: 200$): it makes the stockexhaust sound really amazing! The black-widow pipe has a smaller inner-diameter as the stockpipe, so you may not need a remap, as it did not improve power. It just looks and sounds much better!
Great Video! What sizes did you end up with on the top and bottom arresters? Thanks!
that winter boredom lol! i drilled some holes in the upper tube of mine and it didn't make much difference... I"ll probably go the route you went.
ShaveDaWhales I ended up cutting both tubes down all the way sounds so much better. I feels a little more toque at the low end, haven’t taken it out on the highway yet to see the difference there. But so far I like it so much better.
Did it improve horsepower and fuel economy in any way? Great video cheers Mate
It feels like the low end, gained a little. Gas mileage no.
I pulled mine out just for the hell of it and it sounded like a lawnmower with a hole in the muffler..lol. .Put then back in.
Great video thank you
Boa ideia, aumenta o ronco e não gasta nada.
Probably gonna shuck mine open and just remove the entire baffles on the 2024 until my fuel muffler gets in
like the sound, but cant do this, as I ride in forrests etc and you have to have a spark arrestor to prevent fires, etc. On the road probably ok, but off road, .. wonder if the spark arrestors were lengthened if it would make a better sound, less reistance to the exhaust as there is a bigger surface area to get the gasses through? any At riders who may have done this
homemade tuning , very nice!!!
Any updates after 2 years?
AWESOME
Your garage is bigger then my house
Genial!
Very well video, thanks.
I was wondering, when removed, if the engine would run leaner to compensate for this and thus cause engine damage? I'm not sure how an Africa Twin would react to this change though? Would have to look at its wiring diagram to work it out.
Nibbles It shouldn’t no more then I changed the ecm should adjust for that.
No spark arrestor is generally illegal in the back country. Be aware.
WeRideMotoz ya I know I love the sound now but I’m going to weld the screens back on without the tubes
Are there spark arrester check points?
@@steveh7857 probably not but then again if the CO catches you or you start a forest fire all the work for a louder bike with marginal added HP will suddenly seem like a bad idea.
It’s nice 1200 sq feet
I've had my spark arresters with tips off for 3 month and it's running fine and nothing plastic has ever come close to melting
Mine did, lol ! Only the top hole for the screw on the black plastic cover but nothing else.
Just curious to know how your Africa Twin is doing now with the spark arrestor out. I have a 2018 AT I have been thinking about doing this to.
How do you reattach the spark arresters? Weld?
Hey , thanks for your post , great video great way to present , i have learned a bunch , nice shop there ma n, i have a crf1000l2 2018 and are making the same predictable mods ,tires, luggage , lighting , seat and i am at exhaust now , looking to ride out of state and travel , if you ever come this way (NC) let me know , ,good riding .
madianto gloria Thanks man I getting ready to do a update on the mod. I ended up cutting back to the tip and then welding the screens back on.plus I just got my new shinko 804 & 805's in just have to get them on.
@@DualSportGuy , i am going to be ready with most of mine by , maybe the end of April , then go on to Ohio to touch and go at my father in law's place on my real try all to see how it all holds up including me since it is a 7 hours trick one way and back over a weekend, just about 1300 miles or so .
madianto gloria Thats going to be a haul lol good luck
Thanks for video are you in kc I'm in newton ks enjoying my dct Africa twin 18
Mike Rohr No I’m live in Neodesha down in the south east corner
Is this effect any power difference...
Not at all sounds good
How did you weld the stainless?
I just used my mig, with regular wire. It held up just fine.
@@DualSportGuy did you do anything special to try to match the original angle, or just spot welded it straight on? Also did you worry about any gaps or leaks where you welded together?
@@maxoldenburg5086 followed the angle
Peccato che per il modello italiano come quello europeo i collettori di scarico dello scarico non sono estraibili ma saldati direttamente allo scarico per le nostre normative
I have the same bike, same color, Kansas vet tag and the tires you are considering already shank 804/805..
klrnoel thats cool man just got the shinkos in the mail today going to take the AT in this weekend to get them mounted thanks for your service
@@DualSportGuy you too, you don't change your own tires? Where are you located, I'm in Mulvane (south of Wichita) let's get together for a ride. Thanks for your service as well. 👍
klrnoel I use to change them till a guy down the street got a tire machine so I just let him do it. I’m about two hours east Neodesha
@@klrnoel I taught myself to change all tires / tubes on all my bikes. Saves one a shit ton of money.
the Italian model does not have the six screws but is welded onto the muffler. Too difficult to cut the muffler.
Thats cause italy is guhhhaayyyy
Anyone knows whether this is viable for adventure sports?
I have shop envy
Lmao it’s nice have a good place to wrench on things
@@DualSportGuy it sure is...
Too bad that the European silencer is fully welded :((
Mine too in Thailand BUT if you drill a hole, mine is 19mm in the end plate where the two exhaust pipes come out. Drill about halfway between them and off to the outside a bit sounds just right, throaty but not too loud. I also made a plate with two bolts and captive nuts so I can close it off in 5 min if required .
hello@@Disting2 , I am in France and the exhaust is also welded. If it's possible...Could you somehow provide me with photos of your exhaust? thanks
I cut mine all along the rear seam, cut the two tubes as short as I could and then a few 10mm holes in the visible baffle plate that I could reach. I then took the silencer to an exhaust shop who rewelded the two bits together(stainless welding), put it back on the bike and there is only a very small increase in sound. The fit is perfect and no leaks.
Why???
I would’ve cut out the bottom Sparks Arrester at least the screen part less maintenance
MrHons77 I did just didn't show that part. I also went back and cut the rest of the top pipe off.that made a big difference in sound
I dont know what Kansas or anywhere else is like but In the past at least a LOT of forest ranger types around here? They like to keep a rod handy which they like to shove up your hole if things look or sound suspicious ....In their defense California is a tender box for fire so that is probably at least some of the motivation ...another will be that certain among them probably just hate motorcycles (and off roadish vehicles in general) driving around in "their" jurisdiction you know way more partial to the hiker types ....anyway just want readers to consider THAT possibility ....which maybe if it looks and sound stock enough? 3 out of four rangers probably would not even bother ....but that other one out of 4 ranger ? The one who religiously shoves their little stick up EVERY exhaust orifice?....THAT could be a bad day for having done such a seemingly minor little mod....no? What is the fine? Anyone know? Anyone ever have their vehicle towed for lack of spark arrestor? ....Many years ago in the canyons of los angeles county the chp would actually bring a truck with a great big ass flat bed trailer and flag down EVERY motorcycle with an illegal exhaust and take the bikes ....ALL of em with aftermarket exhaust I believe ....that was more about noise than anything else ...a bunch of rich folks and celebrity types in very high priced canyon homes just got sick of the noise every weekend and demanded that law enforcement did something ....THAT was their answer Somehow I escaped every one of those but can you imagine the expense and hassle! Have to call a cab or friend to come get you and then go the next week and pay all the towing and impound fees not to mention a fine, not to mention having to bolt the stock set up back on take it to marshal to get it signed off etc....pain in the ASS....makes you start loving your stock exhaust more and more
Dougie Quick I hear ya thats why I made another video showing how I welded the arrestors screens back on just for that reason check it out if you would to see how I did it and thanks for the comments I like hear feed back