This performance has been called 'borderline deranged' (Alex Ross, New Yorker May 2, 2019) but I think it's magnificent. The dramatic opening with its long pauses is masterful, both in Beethoven's score and Furtwangler's interpretation. To better understand the music, understand the anguish and the drama of the opera's story. Furtwangler extracts a power from Beethoven that few conductors can. Bravo!
+Steve Schatz Comments as yours I enjoy very much because they give me evidence that at the other end of the line there is someone who is able to understand what I do. Clicks or even likes cannot do this. Thank you. Soon will come Beethoven´s 4th from the same concert.
I had the joyful experience of talking my wife into listening to THAT recording, via you, headphones; of the 4th. She positively jumped out of her seat at the shift at 3:49 - turned with a big grin and said "Well, allrighty then!!" Highly gratifying. Thank you! :-)
The best thing about Furtwängler's version of Coriolan (besides it's unbelievable intensity and magical transitions to the lyrical melody) is the timpani roll he added to the final crescendo leading to the climax (not written in the score!), which is genius and so appropriate because it goes hand in hand with what the thunderous tympani throughout. One of the truly great interpretations by this master.
this is art at the highest level furtwanglers wartime beethoven shows him conveying the message while in the midst of all the chaos his reading of the 9th from 1942 is profound
I wonder if whoever recorded it thought it was over at the pizzicato. Sometimes, when you're performing in front of people unfamiliar with the piece, and there's an ending with pauses, they clap at the first pause because they don't realize there's more to come. It becomes crucial for the performer to give some sort of physical cue (i.e.--hands raised over piano, intense stare--in the case of an orchestra, outspread arms of the conductor) to show the audience that "No! We're not done yet!" Anyway, still a great recording and great performance! Thanks for sharing.
Yes, this is an annoying problem. And it cannot be asked by the conductor or a solist to shorten the pause so that an unfamiliar and hasty listener will not start clapping !! By the way, why are those who do not know a piece are rushing so much to clap? Why don't they wait for others to start clapping?
I minorati mentali che fanno il pollice verso. Aveva ragione Eco su certi esiti della rete. Di questa ouverture, di relativamente breve durata, Furtwangler fa un capolavoro di livello poetico pari a quello delle Sinfonie. Forse, solo Furtwangler poteva riuscire a consegnarci questo Coriolano. Un gioiello sugli infiniti gioielli di questa lettura: il passaggio dal primo tema al secondo e la successiva ripresa del primo. Perchè qualcuno tra i più dotati direttori di oggi non se la studia, battuta dopo battuta, questa esecuzione?
I direttori se lo studiano, altroché! Però si rendono conto che Furtwängler è irraggiungibile. Non basta adottarne i tempi ed altro, ci vorrebbe - ed è impossibile - il suo carisma, la sua sensibilità rabdomantica nel cogliere lo spirito del tempo e trasfonderlo nell'orchestra. La immane tragedia del suicidio europeo è ancora percepibile nelle registrazioni di quegli anni. Solo con Furtwängler.
Which venue was this concert performed? The old Berlin Philharmonic hall? Each sound is much transparent and brilliant rather than the old day's recording released during World War II.
This concert took place a few months before things turned bad for Berliners, there was no major bombing of Berlin until November 1943 and anyway the subsequent raids were done at night.
This supreme Coriolan is drama from the first note to the last. Toscanini's version, on the other hand, is too fast and plain. It happens nothing. And I admire him, too.
Forse qualche imbecille di tecnico credendo il primo pizzicato come l'ultima nota ha cancellato gli altri due. Complice il sublime rallentamento che purtroppo si può solo intuire. E' un finale meraviglioso, è l'acme dell'intera ouverture, è un vero peccato che sia troncato così. Incredibile!
This is available on the internet and CD direct from the original tape, WITHOUT your intervening FM distortion, crap cassette or VHS tape transfer, and youtube crap lossy compression. Also, ALL youtube videos 360p or bigger use EXACTLY THE SAME AUDIO (heavily compressed lossy MP3 or AAC). AND you imagine that presenting this on youtube means great sound! It's perfectly obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. (Oh, and of course this is a great performance.)
This performance has been called 'borderline deranged' (Alex Ross, New Yorker May 2, 2019) but I think it's magnificent. The dramatic opening with its long pauses is masterful, both in Beethoven's score and Furtwangler's interpretation. To better understand the music, understand the anguish and the drama of the opera's story. Furtwangler extracts a power from Beethoven that few conductors can. Bravo!
Bravo my friend. You are truly performing a service to music. Much appreciated by music lovers all over the world. Thank you.
+Steve Schatz Comments as yours I enjoy very much because they give me evidence that at the other end of the line there is someone who is able to understand what I do. Clicks or even likes cannot do this. Thank you.
Soon will come Beethoven´s 4th from the same concert.
I had the joyful experience of talking my wife into listening to THAT recording, via you, headphones; of the 4th. She positively jumped out of her seat at the shift at 3:49 - turned with a big grin and said "Well, allrighty then!!" Highly gratifying. Thank you! :-)
The best thing about Furtwängler's version of Coriolan (besides it's unbelievable intensity and magical transitions to the lyrical melody) is the timpani roll he added to the final crescendo leading to the climax (not written in the score!), which is genius and so appropriate because it goes hand in hand with what the thunderous tympani throughout. One of the truly great interpretations by this master.
I feel so much love... Thank you.
this is art at the highest level furtwanglers wartime beethoven shows him conveying the message while in the midst of all the chaos his reading of the 9th from 1942 is profound
Furtwangler does it again. Amazing.
Superb. The best Coriolan. Very good remastering.
This is the ultimate!
Music...The only really true international language.......Thank you for your hard work and dedication.
なんというCoriolanなんだ！戦時下の絶望的状況下でのみ奏でられうる決死の音楽。感動した。
I wonder if whoever recorded it thought it was over at the pizzicato. Sometimes, when you're performing in front of people unfamiliar with the piece, and there's an ending with pauses, they clap at the first pause because they don't realize there's more to come. It becomes crucial for the performer to give some sort of physical cue (i.e.--hands raised over piano, intense stare--in the case of an orchestra, outspread arms of the conductor) to show the audience that "No! We're not done yet!" Anyway, still a great recording and great performance! Thanks for sharing.
Yes, this is an annoying problem. And it cannot be asked by the conductor or a solist to shorten the pause so that an unfamiliar and hasty listener will not start clapping !!
By the way, why are those who do not know a piece are rushing so much to clap? Why don't they wait for others to start clapping?
beautiful roman panorama
This is wonderful! Thanks so much! Amazing quality for 1943!
no wonder Carlos Kleiber was an admirer.
Furtwängler's Beethoven sounds awesome!
Best version.
Furtwängler, Beethoven’s conductor.
I minorati mentali che fanno il pollice verso. Aveva ragione Eco su certi esiti della rete. Di questa ouverture, di relativamente breve durata, Furtwangler fa un capolavoro di livello poetico pari a quello delle Sinfonie. Forse, solo Furtwangler poteva riuscire a consegnarci questo Coriolano. Un gioiello sugli infiniti gioielli di questa lettura: il passaggio dal primo tema al secondo e la successiva ripresa del primo. Perchè qualcuno tra i più dotati direttori di oggi non se la studia, battuta dopo battuta, questa esecuzione?
I direttori se lo studiano, altroché!
Però si rendono conto che Furtwängler è irraggiungibile.
Non basta adottarne i tempi ed altro, ci vorrebbe - ed è impossibile - il suo carisma, la sua sensibilità rabdomantica nel cogliere lo spirito del tempo e trasfonderlo nell'orchestra. La immane tragedia del suicidio europeo è ancora percepibile nelle registrazioni di quegli anni. Solo con Furtwängler.
心。
否定と肯定。人は否定的になるより、肯定的な方がいい。何でもかんでも肯定的では正しい生き方は出来ない。しかしながら、一端、自分を否定したがその後直ぐに肯定と結びつける。それが、自分の精神にやさしいとわたくしは考えています…。
The best
Which venue was this concert performed? The old Berlin Philharmonic hall? Each sound is much transparent and brilliant rather than the old day's recording released during World War II.
Yes, it took place in the Berlin Philharmonic Hall, 27. - 30.June 1943.
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Unique!
A technical note. How were they able to record, amid the bombing. Did they do it early in the morning, for instance?
This concert took place a few months before things turned bad for Berliners, there was no major bombing of Berlin until November 1943 and anyway the subsequent raids were done at night.
Unglaublich!
This supreme Coriolan is drama from the first note to the last. Toscanini's version, on the other hand, is too fast and plain. It happens nothing. And I admire him, too.
Si sentiva alla pubblicità di Petrus
Forse qualche imbecille di tecnico credendo il primo pizzicato come l'ultima nota ha cancellato gli altri due. Complice il sublime rallentamento che purtroppo si può solo intuire. E' un finale meraviglioso, è l'acme dell'intera ouverture, è un vero peccato che sia troncato così. Incredibile!
You are right!
フルトヴェングラーの録音を聴いていていつも思うんだが、戦時中の録音は演奏にハズレが少ないと思う。当時のオーケストラのメンバー達は出征せずに済んだ代わりに社会的な負い目も大きかったそうで、そこから来る強いプレッシャーがフルトヴェングラーの才能と化学変化をおこして数々の名演を生んだのかと思うと複雑な感情になるね
This is available on the internet and CD direct from the original tape, WITHOUT your intervening FM distortion, crap cassette or VHS tape transfer, and youtube crap lossy compression. Also, ALL youtube videos 360p or bigger use EXACTLY THE SAME AUDIO (heavily compressed lossy MP3 or AAC). AND you imagine that presenting this on youtube means great sound! It's perfectly obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.
(Oh, and of course this is a great performance.)