The Man Who Lived Above His Dead Partner | Disturbing Case of Allan Shyback
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@@johnotm I would suggest that you ask Kyle @diretrip this question.
He covers cases from Japan.
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Sidenote: this case is another example of why you should never have kids to 'fix a relationship', because the kids will always end up suffering.
Absolutely agree with you. Children are not tools you use to try to fix your mess. You fix it or decide to end the relationship using commonsense and to be peaceable as possible for your own actions.
Children have no say who they are born to and when. It is wrong to place such a selfish burden of need on them to fix your own stupidity. Get out of your own way before you ever think of having children.
(My original comment was edited for misspelling. Sorry.)
exactly you don't need to "fix" a bad relationship some people just don't belong together.
@@kimquinn7728 PERFECTLY SAID!! Thank you
i see a lot of stories where partners trying to "fix" their relationship by having kids and to this day i don't understand why would anyone think a child will fix what's happened between two people? like... a child is also a human by themselves. they're not exactly can contribute anything to the issue. if anything a child will only add stressors if the two ppl don't even try to understand the root of the problem in their relationship and address it with each other.
the children will always be the collateral damage. as an eldest from a broken marriage, this always personally pisses me off. as an adult now i have trust issues bcs of my parents (still working on it my own).
I'm not saying America has a great legal system, but some of these Canadian and Britain cases really irritate me with these super light sentences. He murdered his wife and only got a handful of years. His kids no longer have either of their parents, their mother no longer has her life but hey, he can do pretty much whatever he pleases for the rest of his. So irritating
@Empress Astral. Exactly! These soft laws are ridiculous. And the countries who care more about rehabilitating these monsters instead of the poor innocent people they murdered, are even more disgusting. They deserve to be punished!
Yeah it's a joke, they really need to reconsider these sentences
Canada's crime rate is not low because they are soft on crime lol
There is no perfect legal system. As often as "justice" isn't handed out the way we think it should, a large percentage of cases do go well. There are a lot of variables to consider, as each case is different - judge, jury, attorneys, plea deals, evidence, criminal record, etc.
Personally, I support the idea of life in prison for taking a life. Sometimes the death penalty even seems appropriate. But, it just can't work that way.
He wasn't convicted of murder, though.
The “we argued and then she left” motif runs through SO, SO many cases where women have gone missing and it turns out they were killed. It should always raise the deepest possible suspicion.
Idk about that, it’s also how like 75% of breakups go down. Seems p normal. That’d be like being suspicious of someone bc they said they had cereal the morning the person went missing.
75% of break ups result in a woman going missing and the partner then saying “we argued and she left”? No. Don’t know what sort of break ups you’ve had experience with but nah. That will always be suspicious.
@@honeybadgerftw2383 a person suddently leaves another person in a break up is different than they gone completely missing and no one was able to contact.
As it turns out, it's shockingly easy to sell this. There was one dude who murdered his wife and dumped her body on the highway; he told the police she got mad at him and bailed out of the moving car and they still didn't arrest him for another week or so.
I can believe it.
i love how you don't put creepy/ sinister music but instead uplifting calming music as you talk to us. thank you
I agree a crime documentary doesn’t have to feel like a horror flick. The reading a newspaper at breakfast vibe makes it a lot easier to process. A major reason why I subscribed
love it too. his voice is so calm and soothing. ♥️
Manslaughter?? He stuffed her body in a plastic tub and cemented it into the basement !! And he's walking free now?? Wtf?? Dumbfounded.
Just bizarre. A man who "accidentally" kills someone doesn't do the vile things he did.
Yes manslaughter. There's no proof of 'murder' as it's defined in law.
The stuff that he did afterwards is irrelevant to that charge, unless it was shown to be premeditated.
@@clon76 He said he litterally had a elaborate plan to cover up there's no way he just came up with that on a whim.
s e e t h e
@@berserkagain7976 He buried her in his basement. Hardly mastermind stuff. If he had an elaborate plan, her body wouldn't be anywhere near him or his house.
I don’t believe that you can accidentally strangle someone to death. It takes a long time to strangle someone to death. I’m surprised the prosecutor didn’t bring that up.
Plus he was obviously the one cheating in that marriage. He couldn't help himself but to have sex while still serving his sentence. Sick POS.
THANK YOU. like how was that "i wanted to let go but I couldn't" not a MASSIVE red flag?? bc no sir you COULD you just chose not to.
To play devil's advocate, it IS possible he was trying to make her lose consciousness, not thinking that he was killing her.
Totally true. It's not like the movies where a hand around their neck oh they're dead in 5 seconds
@@olserknam After you go unconscious your body starts breathing normally after you're knocked out if you don't have your airway obstructed...And you go limp..It is pretty obvious when someone is K.O.-ed. He needed to hold her for quite some time to make her die to due lack of oxygen or apply actual directed and willing pressure on purpose to crush her trachea. There is no devil's advocate here. This is murder with knowledge and a decision in the moment, not a mistake. The fact that he didn't get life in prison shows how the legal system is a joke....If he killed her in a fit of rage then it can be an accident and he can argue in court, but he hid the truth for more than a year and disposed of the body on the hush hush to not attract attention. Committing this then trying to hide it and plant a false trail is called trying to obstruct justice and you don't do that if you're innocent. He needed to stay in jail just for the fact he tried to hide himself and hide the crime after doing it instead of taking responsibility . What innocent man thinks of shit when they hear their house is searched then talks to a gun with the knowledge he will make him get away and avoid punishment in such a nonchalant way about killing their spouse? Any defense of this case is weak and contradicts his actions during the search and at the end of it.
Every single time a man says 'she just left for no reason' along with 'we had the perfect relationship' my mind immediately goes to 'so where'd you put the body you POS'. I can name 50 cases just in the last ten years where this exact same thing has happened. Every single time.
like the '' american murder'' story on netflix.
I agree with what you have said here. The only problem with your statement is the use of the word men. Being a man I can tell you these animals are not men. A man is a protector, provider and someone to be confided in, keeping in mind these roles are not traditionally confined. (Example, you don't need to fight people to be a protector)
I think the use of theses phrases should absolutely be points of interest ( possibly already are now ) but again, these are not men.
I have felt a lot of negativity from others simply because I have a penis. And other dick swingers are murderous cretins which means apparently I'm also a POS by proxy.
I feel like in the state of our society I should be able to voice my innocence to the wrongdoings and genocide by fuckers that look like me, I say this with confidence because my father subjected myself and my mother to a decade of physical and mental torture. Ensuring the fact to me that I will never be that.
I'm sorry for ranting a bit here, I'm not trying to defend these disgusting pigs. But I cannot sit idly by while men are compared to these physcopaths.
Right... Like... U mean to tell me the police couldn't have acted sooner. This is crazy
Do it, then. Name 50 cases.
@@icankillbugs You have Google. Use it.
this is a really tragic story, and remember if a relationship is bad you owe it to no one to "make it work"
As a Canadian, our justice system needs some looking into. 7 years for this is appalling. It should be way more.
@@skullladymalady Agreed. it genuinely does seem like he didn't intend to kill, but the cover up should be in itself a crime that is punishable by at least 15-20 years
If it should be way more then why doesn't more draconian sentencing work in places like America?
@@deanedongdoorbell Just cause America's justice system is broken doesn't mean 7 years for choking out your partner and burying her body in your basement and leaving it to rot is just. There's a middle ground here.
@Taliya Pottruff I never said it was just, if you read my comment you would know that. You did not answer my question. To reiterate, I asked why more draconian "revenge systems" as I like to call them don't work. Longer/Harsher sentences don't work nearly as well as reformation oriented justice systems. Now, it was not necessarily fair to assume that this Canadian is in favor of punishment justice systems but I surmised that from how they worded their comment. What is the middle ground your looking for?
Go into the Justice system then, don't just talk about how it needs to change, try to be the change
Even if he didn't mean it and it happened in the heat of the moment his actions after trying to cover up the crime should have got him ten years by itself
i make beter content
Yes! If you commit manslaughter and then cover it up it should be treated like second degree murder.
he probably didn't want to get in trouble
Absolutely, and another 10 years for stashing her away in the cellar while he lived with the kids above. That's beyond sick.
blame the soft incompetent judge.
Imagine using the old voice mails recorded by your wife who you killed to create a fake voice mail to send to her mother. I wonder how Allan felt while doing this. When you find yourself in such a situation, you have to wonder what kind of life choice brought you there.
I hurt for her mom. I can tell she knew everything was wrong the second she saw those shoes and coat. Not everyone can have a relationship with their parents like that, and I hurt equally for people who have slipped through the cracks because of this.
yeah, she was definitely one of the good parents out there, who truly cared and worried for her daugther deeply. must have been so difficult to have no idea what has happened to her for so long and have no one give you answers..
Can you believe that he’s out??? Such an insult to the women who died, and her poor family.
good
Ikr! I hope he fails all of the things he wants in life and suffer. He doesn't deserve freedom.
That's absolutely terrible..
To woman*
NEVER have kids in a dysfunctional relationship. NEVER EVER. It's nearly impossible to cut an abusive person out of your life if they're the parent of your child. And the stress from raising a child will ALWAYS make the abuse worse.
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Because they are thick and don't realise it,they go ahead
In fact, never have any children. Too many people , Not enough space and resources without eventually conflict.
@@jamiehughes5573 I'd like to point out though that a swift decline in population is also pretty bad, which is what most western nations are actually currently facing... Population problem is mostly in Africa and Asia. But that's also slightly off-topic.
Regardless, if you ain't with a good partner, you shouldn't be having a kid.
should have told this to my parents
I just want to hug her sweet momma. How difficult her pain must be to live with, her daughter seemed like pure joy. My heart goes out to her family.
Listen, after watching many crime documentaries, I have decided that for my own safety and wellbeing, I will no longer be dating or getting personally involved with men. It's too much!
The amount of force and rage it takes to strangle someone to death and the court doesn’t believe he meant to kill her? Are they serious?
There was no proof he meant to kill her.
@@clon76 stop standing up for a murder lmao. Yall this guy is litterally going into comments and trying to stand up for the guy. 💀Also he litterally planed out on how to take care of the body and evade arrest and the mom and his family.
@@clon76 yeah keep standing up for a murderer that's right. Beleive the broken law system. Go ahead and drink the cool aid. 😎
@@verreal it's common sense.
@@clon76 you don't accidentally strangle someone. That's not how it works.
They'd be flailing and defending themselves, there would be defensive wounds.
It takes MAJOR strength and conviction to choke someone til they die, because survival instincts will kick in.
Having your windpipe crushed hurts like hell so the victim would be fighting with tooth and nail to fight the offender off.
This is why it pays to have a great relationship with your parents because Lisa's mom knew her daughter wouldn't leave her favorite jacket and shoes in the middle of October weather. Her mom knew something wasn't right and went with her but instinct, even down to the voicemails Lisa left that didn't sit well with her. Rest in peace to Lisa and Alan deserves all that he's getting.
From what I've seen, Peggy is a great mother! She knew her so well. I really wish this story had a more positive outcome.
I agree
Some parents make it impossible.
@@charlottetaylor4471 YEP.
@@charlottetaylor4471 I was going to say that.
This relationship started badly, including violence. How did either of them believe starting a family would make the relationship better.
Agreed
A sting undercover operation for a missing woman? 🤯 Well, either Calgary PD are seriously bored or we've finally found a properly functioning and appropriatly funded and staffed PD! 🤯🙌🤞 Edit: with one year and multiple ppl?! I'm shocked/amazed!
Canadians love undercover work ,at least for murderers and such . Apparently it's working though ,this is the third case I've watched videos on that it worked.
I wish I could see his face when he realized his "new friends" were police officers in disguise.
I was thinking about the same thing. Wow! A sting operation for a missing person. The police force must either be too bored or, had a lot of funds and resources.😆
I thought it was just me being too much of a sceptic after watching too many True Crime series that show local enforcement's lackadaisical attitude towards crimes (in many countries featured in these series).
... they were bored. Do not expect this to be standard practice.
I’m born and raised Calgarian and yes, sting operations like this are common. It’s not boredom, sometimes this is the only way to obtain evidence. I went to junior high with Lisa and remember her as a very quiet, shy and nice person. I was very sad to learn of her fate when this case came to light. RIP Lisa.
He may have killed her in a fit of rage but the way he tried to fool poor Lisa's mother and how calmly he told his story to his "friend" tells a lot about the callousness and evilness of this creep. Then he was not punished but rewarded with just a slap on the wrist and I wouldn't be surprised if he did it again, this time being careful not to tell anyone and to dispose of the body far from home.
He had no marks, injuries on him, It was not self-defense. Canadian [justice] system stinks,
Everything about this case just rinks of premeditation and master manipulation and yet they don't think to send this guy to at worst decades in prison?
Just one of the many reasons why I'll never visit the s******* which is Canada 🤨
Canadas legal system is an absolute joke... same as England! These 2 places are almost the only countries where murderers and sexual predators are barely punished for their crimes... no matter how heinous or depraved, especially if you have any kind of celebrity! The only way you get away with anything in America is if youre a part of the 13%... then you end up with a criminal rap sheet thicker than a Stephen King novel!
@@rullmourn1142 he got caught a whole year after it happened... nobody checked him for any marks after the incident. And there are plenty of ways someone's life can be in danger without them getting any wounds.
I 100% think he's in the wrong and should've been in jail for life, but your comment just isn't how self defense works a lot of times.
I agree, it is the energy of the whole thing and whose mind isn't working right that would give such a sentence for such a horrific thing he did - it was more than monstrous. He probably drove himself insane, and then all the fake friends - this guy will always be a loose canon. May Christ have mercy on him - for this one would surely crave it.
I cannot believe how short his sentence was for what he did. The lengths he went through to cover up his crime does not read as an accidental death to me at all. The fact that hes a free man now is just awful.
I am not defending him at all, this applies to anyone, but if a death is truly truly an accident/self-defense, it is not hard to fathom a mind set of thinking a possibility of being found guilty of a 1st/2nd degree murder, and possibly getting life, just as completely innocent people are found guilty, could explain the choices he made. 😈 advo.
Toxic pair.....a recipe for disaster.
I am glad the Grandma loves the kids and takes care of them.
@@themadhi-hatter6849 I seriously doubt he told the truth in what happened. He is motivated to lie to make him look good and lessen charges. I find it offesive when they take the murderer's word for what happened.
It was probably greatly reduced because of Nickelback
That’s the Canadian justice system for you- a complete and utter joke.
As soon as Adrian said this case took place in Canada I already knew there would be little to no justice for the victim. Canada's judicial system never ceases to amaze me with how lightly they sentence killers.
After his bipolar episode when he was feeling normal again he could have very easily confessed, but he chose not to because he knew what he did was wrong. He will DEFINITELY do this again given the right circumstances.
Alan now has trust issues? That makes me pretty happy, actually, when I think that Lisa doubtless experienced trust issues when Alan put his hands around her neck and squeezed the life out of her body. I bet his children also experience trust issues when they came to the realization that their father murdered their mother, then lived with him in the house while their mother lay entombed in the basement below them. I imagine those trust issues escalated when they remembered how he held them in his arms while they cried for their mother, telling them he didn't know where Mommy was, that she just left all of them.
SO. MUCH. THIS.
Weird how she agreed to marry him then.
I had to re-watch that. I thought he said the baby would have trust issues, not Allan.
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 this is top 5 dumbest comment. Blame the victim. How original.
Ill take trust issues over being killed and covered in concrete anyday, Canada is full of pansy arse mf's who couldn't put Adolf Hitler to death if he was sitting in a chair begging to be put to death lmao. But hey they innocent die while this guy gets to start a new life!
Amazing how cops had the patience to befriend this guy over the course of a whole year just to eke the details of the murder out of him.
RIP Lisa Mitchell
Right. This is the second case I’ve heard of on true crime channels where the guy was busted in this way! Pretty incredible police work. I bet that doesn’t happen in the USA.
It’s a common ploy to get them to spill the deets. It only works on losers that crave approval which most of these murderers like this do.
@@judymurray191 Well probably not. They spend more time gathering evidence to actually convict a person rather than slapping them on the wrist !
I'm sure the a lot of the cops were in it for the money. A whole year of overtime and undercover work to pal around with some dork.
You guys should google the case though. Local papers outlined everything the cops did to get close, which included inventing a fake trucking company and paying him a salary for 8 months. They paid for trips, fishing trip, road trips, football tickets, concert tickets, and fucking more.
I guess Canadian people don't mind when their tax dollars go to paying criminals' fuxking salaries. That country is so fucked up.
This one hits close to home. I knew Allan very well, him and I worked at a restaurant together for close to 5 years and only parted ways after I moved, this story would have picked up 2-3 years after I was friends with him. While he was extremely quiet and introverted he always joined a social situation (after work beers, bar night birthday celebrations) and always came off as strange but more like he was putting on, like he was trying to come off as this ‘strange guy’ while just being normally friendly. Interactions with him were sort of strange but not unpleasant.
Him and I frequented a bar down the street (Shout out to JR’s in the NE, now looks like it’s a magic shop) and did so on a regular basis. He dated a friend of mine who is the one who told us about this when the story broke.
While he could get angry and upset, no more than the rest of us, if he had bipolar disorder when we worked together (roughly 2006-2010) it wouldn’t have been noticeable, working in the kitchen they all had the same temperament. While I wouldn’t call him stupid or dimwitted, he worked best on a routine, high pressure curve balls were not his forte. While it’s true he was naturally a negative person, not so much that he was unbearable to be around.
It sucks that this is where his life went and the damage that will remain in those lives that he caused, because this isn’t the guy I knew.
After a large restaurant push would clear, him and I would go for a double smoke break, consecutively smoking 2 cigarettes and talk about each other’s night. We would then stay after close for a beer or go down the street for a pint, we would do this 3-4 times a week for close to 3 years until my departure, then fell out of touch.
I didn’t realize he was out of jail until I watched this video which is nuts.
Anyways, some insight to the man in the video, he was strange, just not the kind of guy you would expect to literally be hiding a body in his basement.
That's typical of people with bipolar, they can pull it together for work and other functions, but at home, in a relationship...the uglier side comes out! He might not have had bipolar when he dated your friend, also once it starts up it builds for years (in most cases).
@@amandastakeonit7402is this your "expert opinion"
@@amandastakeonit7402this is absolutely NOT how bipolar works.
Lisa was such a beautiful woman, and Peggy is so strong and beautiful too. This is really sad, her children are paying the price for an evil man that..in my opinion...got off scot free. It's so sad to see her buried remains in that house..for so long. That animal deserves LIFE. Sincerely, an American citizen. Thank you for shedding light on this story, Adrian. I'm grateful for the difficult digging you do to expose the rotten human existence that still walk among us.❤️
He took a life and got a slap on the hand for this horrible crime. Where is the justice for her and her family?
Thank you for sharing your time and talent with us! I appreciate all you do!
Its canada thats how they do it there it appears
open a bible, yes he sereved a couple years but he lost the love of his life and cant see his children his suffred enough already let him get a 2nd chance its what jesus the lord and savoiour teaches. open ur mind and heat and learn to forgive and love. god bless
@@cuneyt3830 bruh
@@evanadler4398 Right like let's see how they feel if it's one of their family members and if they're response is the same then their just as ignorant as there judicial system
The Canadian justice system lacks a lot. The penalty does not match the crime.
This case is so upsetting! It practically took longer to build a case against that monster than him spending time in jail!
Canadian law enforcements need to earn their salary.
Blame Canada! Lax punishments, laws that are bull shit (you can't even have a taser) and that soft soy based leader they have. He actually paid 10 million to a terrorist bc of how he was treated in prison. What an idiot.
WTF???!!!
@@tessaducek5601 they don't set the punishment, their job is to simply bring the person and evidence to court
@@burntearth85 Same everywhere. Just seemed like a waste of time a resources.
He bought a ‘death kit’ from the hardware and hid her in the house but it took them 2 years to find her!!!!! That whole ‘sting’ movement was completely unnecessary and a waste of taxpayers money.
He may have not meant to kill her, but the way he tried to trick her poor mother with the voicemail…. No words.
That undercover operation had CIA-levels of complexity. Makes me wonder what they have to do to get an operation like that approved; they manufactured a whole new friend group for this guy just on the suspicion he murdered someone. Almost seems a waste to do all that work for 7 years of prison time
It's called a "Mr. Big" operation. It's actually illegal in the United States.
These are called Mr. Big stings in Canada, they are fairly common and incredibly successful at getting murderers to confess and put behind bars
It’s not. It closed the case and the mother got to bring her daughter home to bury her. It’s closure more than anything and I’m ok with that.
It’s actually Realllllyyy kind of stupid for them to do in a case like this before they even searched the house, because the circumstances surrounding the sting are highly scrutinized by the judge and often enough are found inadmissible, or not given much clout towards any charges or decision making. So in my opinion they were gambling unnecessarily because once the house was searched, the evidence was obvious and copious. Almost like they all just like to put on their spy vs spy personas and possibly totally fuck up the justice that can be had for an innocent victims loved ones! Stupidity! Selfishness! And many other not cool expletives about this PD and their practices are running through my mind…
@@_Y.Not_ your comment is incredibly misleading and incredibly only 50% true. The confession doesn’t matter in the end if the judge finds their findings inadmissible because of some infraction. These stings are often and easily never entered into evidence and therefore are taking a big risk in playing with peoples lives. For this case, all they had to do was search the flippin house! The sting was unnecessary and seems to me that the cops have personal motives for enjoying this type of undercover theatrics. They shouldn’t be allowed to fuck around before conducting the obvious and most common investigative tactics, and seeing what kind of evidence that brings to light first! Especially in this case and especially with that terrible cement job cover up Alan tried to pull off. The sting wasn’t needed whatsoever, yet the cops were busy role playing and fucking around for a YEAR whike Lisas body sat in THEE most obvious of places just waiting to be discovered!Imagine if after 6 months in, Alan would have grabbed a brain and realized he needed to move her remains because that quik-crete disaster would for sure get him found out? What if he moved her, aaannnnddd the whole sting was found inadmissible? Then the PD would have fkd the whole case, and the family’s chance at seeing justice for their Lisa would have been less than slim! They gambled here, not fair, not cool and especially NOT ETHICAL! It’s troublesome to know these facts surrounding this case! Shame on them! Hope their mothers are disappointed af in them!
With all the other actions he took against her like stalking and disrespectfully burying her body, I genuinely think he killed her in cold blood.
If I worked in a store that sold products that could be used in a murder I would be paranoid about anyone buying these " murder " tools 🤤
I would be writing names, dates and times down 🤨
Sort gun control first ,maybe
I'm binge watching when I should be getting some sleep. This case is tragic. How anyone could do such horrific things to another human being is beyond me! He barely got a slap on the hand! 😡
As a Canadian, it boils my blood to see some of these murderers get a slap on the wrist. Or justice system is a total joke.
It wasn't murder.
@@stevesteves945 Yes it was...the system failed.
@@shrimpflea No, the system worked perfectly as intended. There is absolutely no way to prove second degree murder beyond any reasonable doubt here, which is why he was charged with manslaughter.
@@melrye7350, in this case it's likely both!!! I mean it is CANADA! If you do your homework you will understand!
Unfortunately for him, he'll spend the rest of his life being hated and looking over his shoulder
Unbelievable how he only gets 10 years for murder and then hiding the body. He shouldn't ever see the light of day again
No, he got 10 years for manslaughter.
Welcome to Canada.
@@stevesteves945 Obviously people disagree with the court and believe it to be murder, there's no point in being pedantic.
@@lainiwakura1776 Yeah but by calling it "murder" you are loading the fuck out of your comment to evoke a certain response. "Murder" is a legal term. Of course it would be unbelievable if someone only got 10 years for murder, but that's not at all what happened. The fact that he was not only convicted for manslaughter, but received a 10 year sentence for it is not in the slightest unbelievable. It's a fantastic testament that the court system worked perfectly as intended.
In America, his ass would have been staring at a wall in a cell for the rest of his life plus. Or the death penalty depending on state.
Thanks Adrian!
Once again I think the justice system has failed to dispense justice. Lisa's children have no mother and her parents have lost their daughter. Allen is now free to do this again and I'm sure he will!
RIP Lisa
If he killed in self defence I don’t understand why he hid her body. If I killed someone defending myself I’d have nothing to hide so I’d report it to the police
I'm a simple kind of person: I see Coffeehouse Crime, I click.
Thank you so much for the video, you always do such a wonderful job~
The 'big sting operation' was clever, but it would've been more clever if they had just, ya know, gotten a search warrant from the beginning
Having babies in a doomed relationship does NOT fix the relationship. The baby suffers and the parents now have more stress.
How have I, a Calgarian, now managed to unintentionally watch 2 episodes in a row about murders committed in my city? It definitely all seems more real when it's so close to home. The lightness of this and other sentences I've heard about in Canada on these sorts of videos is very disappointing. A well-made video, thank you. I appreciate that you don't try to add extra drama and a macabre mood to these stories. I find True Crime interesting but hate when they manipulate your emotions and try to freak you out as much as possible.
I'm glad this channel has grown so rapidly. Adrian gives us a better understanding of the victims of the crimes and how important they were in life.
Agreed
i make beter content
Dreading is way better and without the woke progressive undertones
@@realdeal2283 “woke progressive undertones” lol what, why are reactionaries like this
@@RowletGod69 You forgot a couple question marks btw! Unless you purposely meant to not incorporate them into your excessively retarded comment 🥴
The content gets better and better! Congrats on the growth of this channel!
thank you!
😂 Just by reading the name u chose, & the comment u wrote, u must be very comical around ur friends. Don't lose that humor. We need more laughter in the world today. God Bless, & have a great 🌞 day, 👃👖.
@@candikretz8526 Thank you! I somewhat regret the name choice but certainly don’t regret stumpling upon Adrians content! cheers! 🍻
@@AndrewPoopyPants don’t be poopy about the name, it’s a standout novel choice. Ciao
@@cerealrakist7360 💩 👖 4 life!
Finally gave your channel a chance yesterday; and I have absolutely NO regrets. The amount of information and detail that is covered in such a small amount of time is phenomenal.
It’s a joke that he hardly spend any time for the disgusting crime he committed, I think he’s still a danger to society, my heart goes out to her family 🙏🏽
10 years?! No wonder people are killing their partners at an alarming rate!
If I decide to ever go down that road, I am moving to Canada! People would be smart to decline invitations, if so ;) haha
@@amandastakeonit7402....ma'am do you want authorities to keep a close eye and to start tracking you?? What a weird comment.
5 years for killing & burying his wife in his home, it is appalling. RIP Lisa. Great that Lisa’s mum got custody of the kids!
Adrian has compassion and empathy in his voice when he talks about the victims in these cases. He doesn't sensationalize the stories and I like that. He tells these stories with class, and when he throws in the odd phrase such as, "that would sure f*ck me up", it hits me funny bone. None of these stories are ever funny, but I do feel satisfied when the perpetrator gets a little, "f*cked up", especially when (in my opinion) they haven't received enough justice.
As a Canadian I think it's disgusting how these criminals get a slap on the wrist. Like the man who cannibalized a young man on greyhound. He's out in society already deemed not a threat to the public...ffs
I'll never understand why one parent kills the other one, knowing you'll get caught and they never think of the kids
That’s the problem: they don’t think of their kids. Some people just view their kids as accessories so why not put your needs before theirs?
they dont ever have to know
If someone is willing to kill, I don't think they care all that much about their children to begin with
Why sting operate for over a year when they searched the house and found the body. I understand a confession is a key piece to have, but a body buried in the basement usually seals the deal.
Maybe they didn't have enough evdience to get a search warrant?
@@shrimpflea Except he says at the beginning that he let them in to search the house. Also he says they were searching his house as they were driving to meet the undercover for the taped interview. My guess is they wanted as much ammo for court as they could get.
Well that ending was incredibly frustrating. He put in a lot of work to only get manslaughter charges. There isn't any justice in the system. Smh
It's good to hear about a case where the police worked sooo hard to find out what happened 🌸 Australia
he can’t remember the argument he had with his wife that ended in her getting killed by him it was that bad of a argument he can’t even remember wtf i think he was killing her anyway that was just a excuse🤯
The self defense claim is ridiculous.
You don't fake a voicemail, bury & hide a body if you know it's self defense. Ridiculous.
And jesus, 10 years for a murder that gruesome.
Canadian justice system is fcked
why would he lie about that to his friend though?
I personally might have given him 15 years but still there is nothing wrong with the verdict.
@@wolfsmaid6815 He'd lie to hide the fact that he's a cold-blooded murderer.
@@ijustneedmyself to the police, sure. But to a friend when you´re in trouble? Idk.
@@wolfsmaid6815 because he's a sociopath? A pathological liar, a moron who thought he was a victim?
@@CyborgWolf possibly, yes. I don´t think this video gives enough information to determine that though.
I feel like self-defense killers don't usually amass a collection of voice clips from the person they eventually kill in preparation for concealing their deaths after eventually having to kill them.
He made it sound like “oops I slipped and ended up with my hands around her neck.” He said he was abused and she was the abuser. Made up a story about her abandoning her kids and going off on her own. And a host of other bull crap that made her out to be the awful one and he Mr Sweetly Innocent. I wouldn’t believe his story about her initiating some moves on him with a knife for anything. This creep is the one alive to spin the lies, and that’s what he really did.
Wow... it's crazy to me that law enforcement went to such elaborate lengths to nail this dude, for him to only get a manslaughter charge & hardly any jail time. What a sad waste of effort imo. This murderer is already out & free, which he doesn't deserve. I'm glad they found Lisa's body, and we're able to give Peggy & her children a little bit of closure.
Side note: Lisa was born only 2 months before me, so I got quite the chuckle out of seeing all the lovely 90's - early 00's fashion lol, and hearing about her girl group "Just Cuz", etc. 😊
🕊 R.i.p. Lisa, you were taken way too soon.🕊
If she was still alive today she would be having a blast knowing some of her favorite shows keeps making new stuff. The justice system is crap!!
He didn't even go through everything that the police did in this case. They invented a fake trucking company and PAID HIM A SALARY FOR 8 MONTHS!!!!! They paid for fishing trips on "the boss' boat" (a cop.) Paid for tickets to football games, road trips, etc.... Meaning, if you are Canadian, your tax dollars paid the salary of a suspected murderer FOR 8 MONTHS!!!!!
Canada is a fucking crazy country.
@@forallthestupidshit3550 OMG! Wtf?! That's absolutely insane!!!!
@@lindsayburns1377 I remember reading the newspaper article at work and just loosing my shit at my coworkers. I absolutely cannot believe the lengths they go to for a Mr. Big sting. Canada is a fucked up country.
@@forallthestupidshit3550 it REALLY is f*cked up. Obsessed with rehabilitating criminals and nothing to do with justice for victims!
It was cold blooded murder and him walking free is a travesty of justice. He took her from those that truly loved her. For that alone he should never walk free.
It really speaks to the sheer psychopathy of Alan, to go about his life, with his children... meters away from the mummified corpse of his wife. Wow.
Edit: When Adrian swears, it just sounds so unnatural haha...
Not meant to have a go, I love Adrian's work. CHC is awesome.
I thought the definition of second degree murder was not planning it and deciding to do it in the heat of the moment. What a disgracefully short sentence.
People, please don’t just settle! If you’re not compatible, you’re not compatible. Infinitely better choice to wait and find a better relationship.
Proposing after a breakup isn’t romantic, it’s fucking weird.
Love your channel man. So concise, informative, and sympathetic to the victims. This is somewhat rare in the true crime rabbit hole.
Thanks Robert! Trying my hardest!
No it isn't lol, every channel does it.
@@CoffeehouseCrime Adrian can you please help me raise my registration fees, I am doing my last year in Economics at the university of South Africa
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 keep telling yourself that
@@madampresident2053 get off my comment with your begging
The major thing that nailed Allan was not his confession, it was the discovery of Lisa's body in his house. So why cant the police search his place earlier? It was also Lisa's house, was it really hard for the police to secure a search warrant?
He did say in the video that they just thought she was missing. It might be harder to obtain a search warrant in Canada
Omgosh I totally agree! That search warrant should have been instant! It was a mysterious disappearance from day one.
They did search it. But all they saw was normal messy basement with stuff all over the place. Now there's thorough research work.
@@Meenadevidasi wasn't that only Peggy that saw that when he let her in?
@@truenokill Oh yeah. That was Her mother that searched the house. You're right
As someone who was born and raised here in Calgary and who rented a place in Ogden, have to admit this creeped me out in a whole different way. We never know what happens behind closed doors. His “punishment” was pathetic. People get more time for cannabis. I’m disgusted and I’m ashamed of our system. In saying that, karma truly is a bitch. May Lisa rest peacefully and her children find the joy in life that they can.
This story just made me cry. Justice was not served in this case. RIP Lisa
The lack of jail time is appalling. I can’t even fathom the pain Lisa’s family is going thru. My heart goes out to all of them.
10 years is still a long time to spend in jail. he will hate it.
We have TONS of people in jail here in the US but we also don’t give 8-15 year sentences like the UK, Canada and Australia
@@cruisepaige Sometimes the U.S. courts fail miserably with netting out sentences.
But as you stated. The UK, Canada and Australia just go through the motions.
Lives apparently mean little.
Very disturbing.
@@paulwoodford1984 um. He is out! Do the math.
@@tessaducek5601 yes i know. The math was done shortly after my comment was written.
Lisa and her mom looked so much alike. I'm glad the kids are being raised by grandma. TFS 🥰
It is absolutely disgusting he got out in 5 years basically. He showed indifference in hiding it. If he did it and it was not intended, he should have reported it. Now a family is screwed over because of this.
If Lisa grew up to be close to her mom, I hope the grandkids do too. I hope they never contact their father again.
Got you in my recommended, am now subscribed. I like how you present the cases - tone lively enough to be pleasant to listen to, but not too cheerful as to cause a tonal clash. Your research and editing are great, and the videos are perfect background for office work. Keep it up!
He went through all that to get her back just to do this to her??? What a waste of a human being this possessive creep is.
Ikr? Weird she went back.
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 Only herself to blame
you forget that they BOTH argued all the time and continued before the violence for such a relationship always two are too blame. if she noticed its bad she won't stay. and to stay but argue all the time maybe shouting and getting violent as parents and use the children as excuse to not get divorced proves that you should not have kids or a relationship in first place.
@@paulwoodford1984 oh god 🤦🏻♀️ when men comment this type of garbage it really gives of “she asked for it” vibes. You probably think girls deserve to get raped if they’re dressed “slutty” and drink alcohol too. 🙄
@@glasperle77 and one person ended up murdered. He’s the monster. He’s the creep. He wanted to get back together with her…
I'm working in a coffee house and take my break for you, Adrian. I literally make myself a coffee as you say 'grab a coffee'. As the kids say... This channel slaps and hits fire different no peaked hat!
Haha thank you! Enjoy your coffee!
This made me crack up. 🤣 his channel definitely slaps!!
Lmao fuck yes 🤟🏼
No peaked hat? I’ve never heard that before 💀 do you mean no cap?
Literally me when I order a frappe
I really, really enjoy this channel. I subscribed awhile back but I had really only seen a video or two. I've just now started watching more often and I just want to say that I thoroughly enjoy your presentation. I am a big true crime fan and I honestly have to say that this channel stands out as one of my favorites. Excellent work, looking forward to seeing what's next!
I'm dumbfounded he's walking free! WTF?!? The justice system failed once again. Her poor mother. I can't even imagine what Lisa went thru. ❤️🕊️🙏 I feel so bad for the children. Way too often, we see children left behind because of domestic violence. 😔
I would go after him myself if it was my son or daughter that he killed. Vigilante justice is the only way to go in some cases.
@@JesusismyRock773 , honestly, I can't rule that out. I pray I'm never in such a hideous situation. Happy Wednesday 😊
@@JesusismyRock773 count me in
What a sorry excuse for a human. I’m glad Lisa’s parents have the children.
I don’t feel like he served enough time at all !!!!
Great work , Adrian. Love from Huntsville, Alabama, USA ♥️
I'm a Canadian and I never heard of this case.
My god poor Lisa, Peggy and her kids.
And that's pretty disturbing for the kids to have to lived in the house *while their mother's remains in the basement*.
I don't understand why they let him out?! Where is the justice?!
You're from Canada and you don't know your legal system is a joke?!
@@mikejones6791 Is your legal system any better?? It seems all legal systems, no matter the country, seem to have loopholes that allow criminals to go free or get a lesser sentence than they deserve.
@@mycreativeheart4159 Yes, our legal system is better as it pertains to murderers and deviants! The only real problem we have here is the importance of conviction rates to DAs that lead to some ridiculous plea deals, but even then 90% of plea deals involving 1st degree murder are no less than 25yrs. Also in America our legal system has a sentencing guideline for any violent offense where the convict has to serve 85% of any conviction. The only place in America that hands out sentences less than 25yrs or life for murder is Chicago and thats because the state of Illinois is run by slimeballs from top to bottom that purposefully hand out lighter sentences for a specific demographic in our country! Overall, our legal system is just about the best in the world when it comes to serving justice... its just that for the most part, certain members that make up 13% of our population are allowed to do as they please up until they take someones life! Im also not basing my opinion off of this one case mind you, i watch a ton of true crime videos and have seen Canada and England screw the pooch over a hundred times when it comes to sentencing for the most heinous crimes!
@@mikejones6791 your legal system locks people up for profit, your system is the worst
@@mikejones6791 your legal system locks people up for profit, your system is the worst
I live in Edmonton and it's honestly really wild to hear about all these cases that've happened so close to home😔
Once again Canada's justice system is completely disappointing. As a Calgarian, it gives me the creeps to know this human is back out and about - after serving less time than I worked at my last job.
Thank you for shedding light, though, on what is unfortunately a local story to me that I had no idea about. I appreciate how you approach these stories and the extra details and information you find!
Unbelievable. I can't believe he's already out of prison. Also, I feel like hardware stores need to have red flag alerts go off when people purchase "burial kit" supplies, don't you think? 🤔
I agree with you.
Some have started unofficially keeping tabs on these kinds of purchases, I don't know how they decided to come up with the system but it seems to be largely employee-led.
I was purchasing supplies to clean out and finish up a REALLY dumpy basement: gloves, contractor bags, a shovel (for lifting/moving the heaviest crumbly bits of wall gathered in the corners), cleaning supplies, sand and gravel, and a large amount of clothing line style rope. (For making hanging planters! I was just trying to plan ahead for the plants!)
The cashier told me there was something wrong with how they rung it up and they needed a manager to come approve the removal/re-adding of the cleaners. Within 5 minutes, there were 4 other employees standing at enough of a distance to not be crowding me, but any could have grabbed me if I ran. When the manager came up, they wanted to see my ID and, if possible, to pay with a card; I had been trying to pay with cash, it just seemed easier, I didn't think about how it looked.
The whole time I was soft held in transaction limbo, the shift manager explained that this was they did if someone bought more than 3 "TV crime items," whether or not cash was being used. They didn't call the police, I was able to buy my "finish the basement" supplies, but they'd made sure I was on store cameras from multiple angles for even longer. They got 5 extra witnesses seeing me buy my lot, including the 2 who saw my ID and would be able to take down my name. They had gotten me to pay with a card, instead of the cash, so there was now a card number attached to the purchase date, that would line up with security cam timestamps.
If I'd been buying those things for a sketchy reason, I have no doubt that hardware store would have turned over EVERYTHING by the time the police showed up. But bc it's unofficial and they can't do anything but try to socially weird people into not acting creepy, or collect advance data in case they do, it's hard to say it's "doing something" more than just.... Doing nothing. But I wish that was the norm. I do. I feel like 10 minutes of judgmental eyeballs every time this happens would really change how confident people feel going in, saying "I'm fixing a toilet" at checkout, and successfully buying a damn death kit.
@@royceroyce7715 that is incredible! Good on those employees for noticing something "sketchy" 👏 now there's a manager who clearly watches all the same UA-cam videos we do! 😂
@@royceroyce7715 Sounds like you were the victim of harassment and nearly mobbing, as well. The people at the hardware store are making minimum wage to help you find what you’re looking for and cash you out as fast as possible and keep as many bodies moving through the store as possible, not get up your ass about stuff that isn’t any of their business. Rude and unprofessional of them. And your line about “fixing a toilet” at the checkout? Why would you even say that? Who asked? Do you get harassed and asked what you’re doing every time you go to a hardware store? I’d maybe try a different place to shop if these are the experiences you have lol. Not once have I ever been doing groceries and have the cashier call the manager out to inquire as to whether I’m eating these strawberries, or shoving them up my ass. People really, really need to learn how to mind their own fuckin’ business. If someone isn’t harming me or mine, it’s live and let live.
bro thats what I am thinking!! these murder cases so often have so many "red flags" behaviors from people, that most normal people don't just do... so many small things can point us towards people that might have something sinister going on. our system is so far from ideal if even with all that evidence waiting to be discovered, it can take so long for poilce to even decide its a homicide and not just a... really long runaway I guess? insane that it took them a year to decide its serious, as if someone would just up and leave for so long without a sign
Is it just me or does Adrian always make you feel like he has a personal connection to the people in his stories? It draws me into every story. Well done as always!!!!! Thank you
He’s far more erudite and authentic-sounding than many of these true crime presenters. If he’s writing the narrations that he does, he’s surely got a gift.
He might sound like he knows them but this information is almost all wrong.
I do like his videos. But far too much dialogue from him. He needs to mix it up. I get it these are very serious. Again I like his videos. Just an overall opinion
The judge in this case should be fired for sheer idiocy. This should have at least been second degree murder.
I wonder if the police listened to that voice-mail? I would think a expert would be able to tell it was spliced together pretty easily.
The steps he took to cover his crime show how callous, calculating and dangerous to society this man is.
That should have been taken into account during sentencing. He is a danger to society and shouldn't have been out after such a short time!
Edit: also a lack of remorse too
If someone murdered my daughter, i dont know if i could handle them being free so soon. I dont believe she tried to kill him. I think he made that up so he didnt sound like a freak murderer scumbag to the people he thought were his close friends. It just turned out they were cops.
You wouldn't do shit. Stop playing tough guy on the internet.
There goes another narcissist
They will never take responsibility for anything. A covert narcissist. Evil people. Physiologically and emotional abusive. My husband I am sure was not going to shoot me when he went for the gun. I didn't stay around to find out. 😕
That wasn't his friend he was talking to, it was a "disappearer" who was gonna supposedly get him a new identity
I don’t think this would have made a difference. The judge didn’t believe it either. What was believable was the dude probably didn’t really mean to kill her, until that moment anyway. That makes sense to get a lesser sentence, but still, the dude got the same sentence as some minor crime for it.
Yep I never, EVER believe men when they say she attacked him, when she ends up dead stuff in a suitcase or something. Never. Do women attack men? Yes, but the outcome typically isn't 'dead and buried in concrete'.
I would've gone to the cops immediately if this were my daughter. I hate when the family waits because it gives the partner more time to hide evidence.
I really like how you spend time speaking about the victim and the person that they were. It sounds like you have spoken with people who knew them, and loved them the most. I think that’s really really nice to do because true crime is something that a lot of people are into and we sometimes get away from the fact that someone died. Someone lost a daughter or sister or a brother or an uncle or a best friend. And sometimes I feel kind of bad that I’m watching the story of how that happened for entertainment. So I do appreciate and enjoy the personal information about the victim you provide to honour their life.
Love your videos they’re always interesting and well narrated.
OMG My home town!!!!! you are so kind how you approach these horrible stories. Thank you for your uploads. Calgary is a beautiful city and has always been safe and friendly. Sad what the person who is supposed to love at some time would do this to them.., May Lisa rest in peace!
I've been to a few Canadian cities, growing up and living right on the border. But I've wanted to visit Calgary for so long. It's always looked so epic to me
@@veenoir1991 it's really nice! It is very safe and friendly too
@@veenoir1991 Calgary is probably the nicest city in Canada. It's very clean compared to other cities I've been in. Halifax is a decent city too.
safe and friendly lol all i hear is murder gangs drugs
I actually lived in Ogden just a couple blocks away from the scene during the time of the murder.
Good afternoon.
Watching from Zambia
I really enjoy your videos.
Significance of the bag and shovel in the beginning?
We can't stop watching Coffee-house Crime, well done mate, high quality. Top shelf. Thanks
I'm finally up to date on your videos 💗
This is a wretched case! He killed her, not out of self defense. Then the things he did to her body and the poor mum are beyond vile. Not to mention telling those poor wee ones ‘mum’s skived off and not coming back’. My heart hurts for all but him. Brilliant detective work, positively brilliant!
I still can't understand for the life of me why people bring children into the world in such horrible relationships it's so unfair on the children
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As someone born and raised in Edmonton ( *aka DEADmonton* ), it hits differently when cases are that close to “home”.
Wonderful footage of Calgary. I enjoyed living there and am happy to see it so thriving. Thank you and cheers from Canada.
The respect you have for the victims is incredible. keep up the good work!
Sux they can't put in this kind of effort when it comes to missing indigenous women
This !
I normally don't comment on anyone's videos.. but man... you're so so good on what you do that I had to say something.
I love your work and commitment.
Much love to you❤