MUI Goku vs Beast is NOT Close (At All!)

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  • @AventSir
    @AventSir  Місяць тому +4

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    • @MercedesBoyzz
      @MercedesBoyzz 16 днів тому

      U miss the fact tht goku casually pushed him back and told vegeta it was never his goal to beat Gohan just test him nice try tho

    • @Hamitmisini
      @Hamitmisini 9 днів тому

      ​@@MercedesBoyzz truth that even vegeta said that goku was holding back

  • @justinwhaley1288
    @justinwhaley1288 Місяць тому +210

    May I remind you that Gohan doesn't have God ki. He is really just that strong

    • @Rdc_Dom
      @Rdc_Dom Місяць тому +79

      That's not really that impressive, Jiren, Broly, Hit, 17, Kelfa and pre time chamber training Frieza all didn't have God ki. In fact God Ki as a concept is kinda ass anyway.

    • @Ostrich18
      @Ostrich18 Місяць тому +12

      So like half the cast

    • @Jphantom213
      @Jphantom213 Місяць тому +18

      If Gohan had ssb his ssb would probably be on mui level 🤣

    • @jay-san464
      @jay-san464 Місяць тому +2

      ima kiab god ki means nothing in db 😭

    • @jay-san464
      @jay-san464 Місяць тому +1

      @@Ostrich18not to mention androids are not on par with gods, and they don’t even have ki 💀💀💀

  • @paulgilbert3139
    @paulgilbert3139 Місяць тому +76

    The only problem is goku has proving that stamina is not a big problem anymore for his ultra instinct form, meanwhile beast gohan looks pretty exhausted after land a hit on goku. And the last attack, gohan needs to charge his ki for quite a while before he was attacking goku, that's a major problem as well.

    • @rimurutempest9733
      @rimurutempest9733 Місяць тому +5

      To be fair goku did have mui a while to train it gohan only recently got beast knowing dragon ball he train his beast form to fix stamina problems and learn how control it power output

    • @clmstudios3364
      @clmstudios3364 Місяць тому +25

      I mean, Gohan wasn't really that tired. He didn't even ask to quit and immediately fought Broly right after, showing he wasn't tired.

    • @NiebieskiGogerot
      @NiebieskiGogerot Місяць тому

      ​​@@rimurutempest9733 Goku didin't mastered ultra instinct yet you talking about perfected ultra instinct

    • @rimurutempest9733
      @rimurutempest9733 Місяць тому

      @@NiebieskiGogerot not my point dumbass ik it mot mastered i call it mui more easy to know what I'm referring to as i said he had his form lot longer :|

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +1

      Doesn't matter, Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

  • @RarePotions
    @RarePotions Місяць тому +8

    HOLY CRAP... I can't with some of the comments under this video man.
    GOKU NEVER SAID HE WASN'T TRYING AGAINST GOHAN!! Only that his objective was not to "win", but to test his own strength against him. Also I don't think Goku can just "not try" while using Mastered Ultra Instinct. That fundamentally goes against what the form is when HIS BODY MOVES AND REACTS ON ITS OWN!!
    If some people in the comments can't understand that distinction then we really are not beating the allegations that Dragonball fans can't read lmao.

    • @proheraldsjr3000
      @proheraldsjr3000 19 днів тому

      Are you stupid if goku is telling anyone that his objective is not to win that’s literally saying he’s not trying. You mfs are truly stupid my god. And he did not say he was testing his own power against gohan go back and actually read. The whole point was to gauge gohans power. Also bird brain in mui goku doesn’t have to use his dodge hax if he doesn’t want to he actually only really uses it a couple of times to actually show gohan how ultra instinct works. You’re the one who can’t read😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 keep coping and I swear I cannot wait until the anime comes back out and when we get more manga chapters. I guarantee you Gohan is going to be forgotten again and goku and vegeta will end up stealing all his hype this is literally a loop that yall don’t even realize is happening.

    • @AyerFrFr
      @AyerFrFr 6 днів тому

      Lmao fr

  • @THE_EDGINATOR
    @THE_EDGINATOR Місяць тому +79

    Now just imagine how unfair it would really be if gohan had god ki.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +8

      Nothing would happen 💀 unless he obtained it through a transformation, even dende got god ki

    • @THE_EDGINATOR
      @THE_EDGINATOR Місяць тому +5

      @@ContonCityNews No like, if they do the ritual like the did in BOG when Goku obtained god ki. God ki is 100,000 times more powerful than goku’s base form, so just apply that to gohan’s base form and then multiply it with beast. Gohan would easily be able to beat goku and vegeta at the same time, maybe even an ultra vegito or ultra gogeta possibly but thats taking things a bit far.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +2

      @@THE_EDGINATOR extreme fanfiction fan 😭

    • @THE_EDGINATOR
      @THE_EDGINATOR Місяць тому +8

      ​@@ContonCityNews I like fanfiction, so what? It's cool asf in my opinion, and if your jus gonna come reply about me stating my opinion in a yt comments section, then your just weird.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +3

      @@THE_EDGINATOR nothing wrong with liking fanfiction, just don't get crazy ideas messed up with the actual story

  • @shounaksarkar6493
    @shounaksarkar6493 Місяць тому +22

    Finally, someone who actually understands the Beast form......

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +1

      Still doesn’t beat mui Goku
      Explanation: Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

    • @shounaksarkar6493
      @shounaksarkar6493 Місяць тому +3

      @@ContonCityNews Toyotaro himself confirmed that both were fighting at their maximum power.......

    • @kumaraditya7372
      @kumaraditya7372 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@ContonCityNewsdude who hurt u

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      @kumaraditya7372 nobody 💀 are you trying to hurt me or something? All I'm doing is letting Gohan fans know why Goku is still more powerfull.
      What a random statement

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +2

      @shounaksarkar6493 Give proof that he did that himself and it wasn't just the db official website giving their own summary of what happened, plus even IF it was him which it probably wasn't, it still contradicts the manga saying Goku wasn't trying to beat to Gohan and is most likely for small hype + promo effecf as it was RIGHT after Goku and Gohan's battle

  • @kleber_felinto
    @kleber_felinto Місяць тому +5

    Gohan that just learned how to activate his beast form has 26 years, that's the same age as when goku finally learned how to activate ssj 1 (when goku came back from yardrat).
    Now imagine how powerful gohan will be when he's as old as super hero arc goku (50 years, counting the time when goku was dead or in time chambers).

  • @11e1cess3
    @11e1cess3 Місяць тому +22

    Pretty obvious Gohan W.
    Good breakdown.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +2

      Um no, Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

    • @11e1cess3
      @11e1cess3 Місяць тому +4

      @@ContonCityNews You're free to believe that. Alas, the manga shows otherwise.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      @@11e1cess3 the manga backs me up on everything, you Gohan fans need to stop being biased, read and most importantly comprehend the manga, Gohan even stops plenty of times in the fight to explain how his beast form works and how he is at full power and getting amps too

    • @11e1cess3
      @11e1cess3 Місяць тому +5

      @@ContonCityNews Take that cope up with Avent, not me. He has a discord linked for a reason lol.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      @@11e1cess3 Sure

  • @troygarner666
    @troygarner666 Місяць тому +63

    Goku fans cannot accept that Gohan is stronger Because they’re the same type of people that say that Gohan only surpass Goku one time in the series as A super Saiyan 2 😂

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +15

      He's just not, just read the manga 💀it tells you EVERYTHING
      Explanation: Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

    • @gogetablue7905
      @gogetablue7905 Місяць тому +13

      Gohan Fans can't accept that he got shit on by Blue Evolved Vegeta and Broly SSJ

    • @troygarner666
      @troygarner666 Місяць тому +2

      @@gogetablue7905 what are you talking about and he ran the gauntlet and he was fine at the end because Everyone was exhausted.

    • @gogetablue7905
      @gogetablue7905 Місяць тому +10

      @@troygarner666 Exactly, Stop saying nonsense. Everyone wasn't serious so we can't conclude anything. It was PRACTICE not ACTUAL Battle

    • @troygarner666
      @troygarner666 Місяць тому +2

      @@gogetablue7905 again what are you talking about? You can include a bunch of stuff from that fight one I’m being that gohan is stronger than Goku. Do not get me wrong it’s not a big gap like many people were(are) saying before the manga I give it like a 6/10 times in Gohan favor.

  • @georgie545
    @georgie545 Місяць тому +56

    In terms of who’s the stronger fighter and who packs more of a punch, Gohan Beast destroys in that compartment.
    But in terms of speed and battle Iq, and counters, so just the better more well versed fighter overall, it goes to Goku.
    So a sparing match would go either way. But a death match would definitely go to Gohan.

    • @XENUPHANDLESIT1
      @XENUPHANDLESIT1 Місяць тому +5

      Nope when Goku was fighting with Gohan he was just chilling he was not fighting at full power

    • @Jphantom213
      @Jphantom213 Місяць тому +7

      Goku take battle iq but n the manga Gohan beast was faster and knocked em out of mui

    • @hatsu584
      @hatsu584 Місяць тому +12

      speed does not go to goku he just got more agility gohan was so fast that muis evasiveness could not keep up.

    • @UnderTheHood78
      @UnderTheHood78 Місяць тому

      ​@@XENUPHANDLESIT1MF is meat riding hard

    • @leultrainstinct406
      @leultrainstinct406 Місяць тому

      death match would go to goku too. Don’t forget about all the abilities ui has on top of the speed and stamina advantage. Lets just say gohan’s raw strength over powered goku but takes all his energy and stamina to do so. what’s he gonna do about the goku’s giant ki avatar that can activate when he’s near death?

  • @FJUVHJDSR
    @FJUVHJDSR Місяць тому +56

    Been saying it since day 1... Only battle IQ and Hax is helping Goku in an all out fight against Gohan, although it still wouldn't be enough to bring Gohan down

    • @_Alex_Da_Youtuber
      @_Alex_Da_Youtuber Місяць тому +5

      Who have u been saying it too since day one like ur not him

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +1

      This guy isn't Akira or Toyotaro so calm down, plus he's wrong, only reason "Gohan has more raw power and speed" is because Goku was holding back, so Mui Goku's powerful stats weren't even at full power
      Also Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power while Gohan is and is getting amps too

    • @jianandreiraut4502
      @jianandreiraut4502 Місяць тому

      you forgot goku's battle experience. but yeah i agree

    • @sonnywoods6846
      @sonnywoods6846 Місяць тому +2

      @@ContonCityNews Isn't it weird how DB fans wants someone be stronger than Goku so bad! Sometimes I wonder if we are reading the same manga. It seems like people get real excited when someone looks like they might be stronger than Goku even when it ambiguous

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +1

      @sonnywoods6846 Tbh not for me, they're trying to forget the gaps to fulfill their biased desires, I'm a massive Goku tard but I know when to drop it if a character has fully been proven to be more powerful than him, there is absolutely no proof Gohan is more powerful than him while Goku has a decent amount of evidence of being superior in battle

  • @The-One-Eyed-Grim-Reaper
    @The-One-Eyed-Grim-Reaper Місяць тому +27

    There are many languages in this world, but this guy chose to speak FAX

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      Not at all 💀 Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

    • @proheraldsjr3000
      @proheraldsjr3000 Місяць тому

      @@ContonCityNews 💯

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@ContonCityNewskeep coping even Toriyama himself Said Gohan is the Strongest you Dragon Ball Fans really don't watch read your guy's own Series lol 😂

    • @MasterCombatant
      @MasterCombatant Місяць тому +1

      @@StevenJones851it’s been a while now since that statement was made and there’s been more story released since then. So depending on one’s opinion and perspective, some characters like Goku(and perhaps Vegeta) have surpassed him again

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 Місяць тому

      @@MasterCombatant Goku and Vegeta will Suprass Gohan of they get more power Boosts in the black frieza arc

  • @Comeonmate
    @Comeonmate Місяць тому +13

    It’s prolly close cuz goku has hax +abilities but beast gohan has raw power + strength to match it. I wouldn’t say it’s not close but in the manga it was close to some extent until gohan closed the gap with this power and put goku down. Overall good video tho ❤❤❤

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +1

      Gohan doesn't have more strength or speed, Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

    • @Shadow-mr3uj
      @Shadow-mr3uj 9 днів тому

      ​@@ContonCityNews v jump and official statement stated this both of them use full power so no

  • @jordanglasper1064
    @jordanglasper1064 Місяць тому +4

    Beast Gohan Is Not Stronger. That is pure Bias. Perfected Ultra Instinct Goku showcased Beautiful Display of Power/ Strength vs Jiren The Grey. Morro & Granolah & Gas. Time & time again. Yet Gohan fans thro all those feats of Power/ Strength away Goku has consistently displayed versus various opponents in favor of Gohan.
    Essentially the Gohan fans, fan out too the point they cannot & do not make clear discernment nor understanding of genuine feats and power scaling between Goku and Gohan. No matter how superior Goku reveals himself to be. They will always downplay him bcuz they cannot distinguish their bias for Gohan to win. Essentially they cannot get rid of the tunnel vision they have when Gohan is up and especially vs or compared to Goku.
    Goku took his eyes off the spar session with Gohan. A Gohan who was 100% tryin to defeat Goku. Goku casually blocking and knocking Back Beast Gohan, while he was distracted by Broly. Goku represents The Old School Martial Arts Masters that test the younger generation.
    Goku didn’t seek to beat Gohan bcuz he has grown beyond that. Goku knows he has all the power. The fight was about ensuring Gohan will be Strong Enough to defend the planet when The Masters “Goku & Vegeta” are off world, the Earth will be in safe hands of Gohan, Broly, Goten & Trunks.
    We are not far from end of Z. Base Form Goku becomes an Unstoppable OP Monster. Uub is Stronger than him.

    • @SonZackSSJ9k
      @SonZackSSJ9k Місяць тому +1

      Fax

    • @giovannieriksandu2432
      @giovannieriksandu2432 5 днів тому

      All this crap gets so debunked by mui characteristics and Vegetas statament

    • @SonZackSSJ9k
      @SonZackSSJ9k 5 днів тому +1

      @@giovannieriksandu2432 It really doesn’t lmao

    • @aterrariastarcell5952
      @aterrariastarcell5952 5 днів тому

      Believe it or not, Gohan was confirmed to be the strongest character in DBZ, the “End of Z”, is in DBZ… So even by that logic, gohan would be stronger, but I do see the argument for goku being the stronger one

    • @SonZackSSJ9k
      @SonZackSSJ9k 5 днів тому

      @@aterrariastarcell5952 That was in DBZ in the context of the Buu Saga, by that logic Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Anything in Super lmao.

  • @bamboo345
    @bamboo345 Місяць тому +2

    imagine if Gohan was the one who got ssg in the ritual he would have god ki and something beyond beast 💀

  • @brandontime6904
    @brandontime6904 Місяць тому +39

    Why is no one mentioning that goku stated that he was testing gohan out and not actually intending to beat him 💀

    • @reddroid8499
      @reddroid8499 Місяць тому +5

      You'd think the manga would clear that up.

    • @jaylingraves8800
      @jaylingraves8800 Місяць тому +17

      Because it doesn't fit their agenda

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Місяць тому +13

      Because the official DBS website stated explicitly that both Goku and Gohan were at full power in the sparring match, Now the question is why didn't any of you guys address this statement from the official website?
      Just type in DB official website it should be the first thing that appears when you look it up.

    • @reddroid8499
      @reddroid8499 Місяць тому +11

      @@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 why is the manga contradicting the source when goku said he wasn’t trying? That’s the real question and what’s the link to the official manga site?

    • @FLARE371
      @FLARE371 Місяць тому

      @@cheeseburgerfreddy6350is a ki palm full power?

  • @noxartorias6553
    @noxartorias6553 Місяць тому +3

    Gohans beast form has so much to grow. Whis explained it’s neither a super saiyan transformation nor is it a godly technique…
    Beast is either an improvement to mystic or something completely different. Is gohan is able to combine beast form with super saiyan or god Ki he would be unstoppable.

  • @victorobidigbo2858
    @victorobidigbo2858 Місяць тому +4

    Guys don't get at this because this vid was mostly about raw strength and by not close he means it in terms of power cuz
    If that fight would've been a death battle rather then a sparing match goku would have known of mui's accuracy dipping mid fight and would have just tried to finish gohan from the start and by death battle I mean it so if goku sees gohan powering up goku's tryna stop him and if punches can't do it I think a quick kamehameha could guys what this all means is that if someone says who's stronger it's different from who would win in a fight (and by fight, I MEAN IT OK)

  • @princekasper3328
    @princekasper3328 Місяць тому +7

    Goku fanboys are the reason why we gotta hype Gohan up again, cuz y'all didn't wanna let him take the baton at Cell Saga.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Місяць тому +2

    Love your content! Thanks For this ❤❤❤❤

  • @darryltorres7302
    @darryltorres7302 Місяць тому +1

    In terms of physical stats, Gohan is superior. In terms of hax and experience, Goku is better. However, you can just tell Gohan is the overall more powerful fighter. Not only are his punches more effective than Goku's own, Gohan is also able to completely bypass MUI's evasion hax while powered up. Its pretty consistent throughout the series that the one who has the better power, speed, and durability in a fight are usually the superior fighter.

    • @SonZackSSJ9k
      @SonZackSSJ9k Місяць тому

      Nah, Goku is better physically as well.

    • @FartJiggly
      @FartJiggly Місяць тому

      @@SonZackSSJ9k l'd go with Gohan having better power but as Vegeta said, Goku is much more experienced than Gohan. It's really power vs skill.

    • @darryltorres7302
      @darryltorres7302 20 днів тому

      @@SonZackSSJ9k there no clear proof of that. The only thing that indicates that is Goku saying he wasn't trying, which is obviously since they were just sparring, but it's also obvious that Goku's MUI pretty blatantly carried him through the fight. Again, Gohan's punches were more effective than Goku's punches. Also, keep in mind that Vegeta himself said that Goku's MUI and his experience was closing the gap between them implying that Gohan was already the stronger of the two from the very start.

    • @SonZackSSJ9k
      @SonZackSSJ9k 20 днів тому

      @@darryltorres7302 They really weren’t, again Goku was quite literally able to push Gohan back with a simple Kiai which is a technique that doesn’t even require Ki. If Gohan was pushed by that alone then those punches did more than push him back, it’s common sense.

  • @handzofstone1152
    @handzofstone1152 5 днів тому +1

    I thought Gohan fans were done coping and trying to convince themselves that he would win. I guess not 😂

  • @mrhopadopalus
    @mrhopadopalus Місяць тому +1

    I think Dragonball's biggest power leveling issue, is that there can't be power tiers between main villains and heroes. These characters can be interesting without being on the same scale as Goku & Vegeta. I'd argue that's what makes people like the TOP. Characters came back and fought on their own level. Even with the terrible power jumps Tien, Krillen and Roshi never became as strong as a Ssg, but still had interesting flights. Cell Max could have just been stronger than Gohan without being stronger than ultra instinct.

  • @zetset8098
    @zetset8098 Місяць тому +1

    Gohan used only small part of his power against his father but I think it was still so unfair... I want to say to Gohan: Bro he is your father why you hited him so much, what you thinked about??

  • @H_tokito
    @H_tokito Місяць тому +2

    8:43 jus proves goku better

    • @newhybrid101
      @newhybrid101 5 днів тому

      Better fighter and faster reaction.
      But definitely not stronger.
      You are not smart

  • @NiebieskiGogerot
    @NiebieskiGogerot Місяць тому +2

    Goku ui i think wins but not in pure strenght just by experience and battle iq

  • @CRISIS_COMICS
    @CRISIS_COMICS Місяць тому +3

    PREACH!

  • @jordanglasper1064
    @jordanglasper1064 Місяць тому

    Goku casually knocking Gohan back is a feat of Pure Power. The Gohan fans are not acknowledging Goku’s Power/Strength yet again. This is after Goku is distracted mid fight.
    That’s as disingenuous as Master Roshi a DB Level Fighter, being able to keep up with Jiren The Grey. A DBZ level fighter who is Vastly Stronger than Kid Buu. Last & Strongest Villain so Strong, Goku needed The Help of nearly Everyone in The Universe, just to beat him.
    Master Roshi could never fight on par with Jiren unless he had the power to match or overpower him. Same difference with Goku. Goku literally overpowering Gohan with one arm.

  • @ricoboydragon1136
    @ricoboydragon1136 Місяць тому +5

    Even though Gohan is stronger (At the moment), I still perfer MUI over Beast as transformations.
    Good vid though💯

    • @PeterPan-yg9xu
      @PeterPan-yg9xu Місяць тому +1

      I still prefer Beast over Mui as transformation because beast don’t need require to has a calm heart and mind like Mui

    • @TomasBregman
      @TomasBregman Місяць тому +1

      beast has such a goofy fucking design shit looks like it came from a DB parody

    • @PeterPan-yg9xu
      @PeterPan-yg9xu Місяць тому

      @@TomasBregman The problem with Ultra Instinct is that you have to be a calm heart and mind and be emotion less all the time can of ass and can of shit

    • @PraisePlayz
      @PraisePlayz Місяць тому +1

      @@PeterPan-yg9xu So its better to use UI sign when in situations that make the user mad, since they can maintain it while beating the shit outof thier opps

    • @TomasBregman
      @TomasBregman Місяць тому

      @@PeterPan-yg9xu That only applies to the manga which has the shittier version of UI

  • @animeslayer6654
    @animeslayer6654 Місяць тому +2

    It’s power vs skill and that there lies the problem because while yes gohan is most definitely more powerful in terms of raw power output his mastery over that said power is lacking where Goku has mastered his ultra instinct abilities to a very high degree since the granola arc which is why I give Goku the victory here although that dose not mean i don’t believe gohan can’t surpass him just that as of now Goku is better at using his abilities than gohan is beast hopefully though in the next few arcs we will see gohan master his power and show what he can really do

    • @rimurutempest9733
      @rimurutempest9733 Місяць тому +1

      Yea exactly goku first goy mui he wasn't good at it as he is now I'm sure once gohan masters his beast form he be lot better at it i believe there levels to a form now

  • @jthomas0630
    @jthomas0630 Місяць тому

    Seems like god ki doesnt mean as much as it used to.

  • @Jjbam430
    @Jjbam430 Місяць тому +3

    Yeah people think goku was holding back and beast gohan was using full power none of them were going all out I don’t think people understand that this was a friendly sparing match why will beast gohan go all out on his dad and why will goku go all out against his son this is why a lot of dragon ball fans are basically casuals they don’t read closely or read daily news on the topic they just assume thinks and tell this to people but when people disagree with this claim they wanna argue because they don’t read the manga closely or read news on the topic.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +1

      Gohan WAS going all out
      Explanation: Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

    • @SonZackSSJ9k
      @SonZackSSJ9k Місяць тому

      @@ContonCityNewsFax

  • @TheHolyTreeMan.
    @TheHolyTreeMan. Місяць тому +2

    Totally agree.
    Here’s how I see it
    Strength: Gohan
    Travel speed: Equal
    Reaction Speed: Goku (Gohan when pushing to berserk)
    IQ: Gohan
    BIQ: Goku
    Hax: Goku

    • @zerogtoxik6020
      @zerogtoxik6020 Місяць тому

      You see it wrong cause Gohan was so fast goku couldnt react to him when he was charged up, and the beast form ended up overwhelming Goku’s evasive speed. SO-
      Strength: Gohan
      R + C speed: Gohan
      Travel speed: Gohan
      Durability: Gohan
      IQ: Gohan
      BIQ: Goku
      HAX: Goku
      Abilities/Versatility: Goku
      ``` ```
      That’ll be all.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +3

      Nope, Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

    • @SonZackSSJ9k
      @SonZackSSJ9k Місяць тому

      **Strength: SSJB Goku
      Speed (Travel and Reaction): SSJB Goku
      IQ: Midhan
      BIQ: Goku
      Experience: Goku, fixed it for you.

    • @FartJiggly
      @FartJiggly Місяць тому

      lol you Dragon Ball powerscalers are so funny. It's VERY obvious that their spar was Power vs Skill. Vegeta said so himself. Gohan would come out on top more times than Goku but it wouldn't be easy.

  • @rodthedigger2902
    @rodthedigger2902 Місяць тому

    Great video!

  • @SalveMonesvol
    @SalveMonesvol Місяць тому +1

    Gohan seems to be a lot like Broli

  • @proheraldsjr3000
    @proheraldsjr3000 Місяць тому +3

    The glaze in this video is unbearable

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 Місяць тому +1

      @@proheraldsjr3000 it's facts

    • @proheraldsjr3000
      @proheraldsjr3000 29 днів тому

      @@StevenJones851 no it’s Copium and you’re snorting a bunch of it along with the HanTard who made this wack a** sh**. Just wait for the manga to continue ya boy Gohan is not getting anymore hype after 103 💀💀💀 goofy a** mfs gone be salty asf when things go back to being exactly how they was before he got his little transformation😂😂😂

    • @proheraldsjr3000
      @proheraldsjr3000 19 днів тому

      @@StevenJones851 no it’s pure copium and you Han fans need better comprehension skills or to just stop reading all together. Mfs sound dumb asf saying Gohan won anything against goku when In fact 80%-90% of the spar goku was in control. What’s actually facts is realizing goku was stated to had not been trying and just wanted to test Gohan and goku didn’t have to go to max power like beast did just to land one hit💯 cope and cry more.

    • @AyerFrFr
      @AyerFrFr 6 днів тому

      @@StevenJones851glaze asf 💀💀

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 6 днів тому

      @@AyerFrFr keep coping bro lol 😂

  • @newhybrid101
    @newhybrid101 5 днів тому

    You destroyed those Goku fans lmao

  • @YoungKingAnthony
    @YoungKingAnthony 15 днів тому

    So we're just gonna ignore Goku saying that he just wants to gauge Gohans new form and wasn't interested in fighting seriously? Also it was a sparring match...until we see both forms fight at full capacity either against Freiza or each other they're equal overall. Beast has the edge in raw power but everything else mui has it beat I don't know why ppl still argue about this. It would be a more interesting fight against ultra ego vegeta honestly

  • @dylanlapenna8513
    @dylanlapenna8513 Місяць тому

    I see MUI vs Beast as a professional MMA fighter vs someone who can Punch REALLY hard. Sure, if that hard puncher lands a few blows is probably over... but that MMA fighter has a lot more ways to deal with the hard puncher than the inverse.

  • @naikjoy
    @naikjoy 20 днів тому

    if only Gohan took things more seriously

  • @danielendless
    @danielendless Місяць тому

    Imagine needing God Ki to reach this level of power...

  • @Taoishim
    @Taoishim Місяць тому

    Why does everyone think UI is a hax? It's only hax when Goku is far stronger than the opponent, but when he's against someone of the same level or stronger, it doesn't really do that much, it's just another power up form. Goku auto dodges here and there, but UI hax can be overwhelmed simply by just being stronger & faster. Ex: Jiren, Gas, Granolah, Black Frieza, Beast Gohan.

  • @indeedgaminghere401
    @indeedgaminghere401 Місяць тому

    honestly, I don’t think Gohan has ever shown the grit to beat Goku. Gohan has never beaten an opponent on his lvl without outside interference. Which is typically is him seeing someone he loves hurt. The only time you could say he kinda did, is when he had a draw with Kefla. Gohan needs to be pushed to surpass opponents on his level typically, and the will doesn’t come on its own. Goku on the other hand, can push himself past his limits and surpass opponents when they’re on his level and beyond.
    Gohan on his own is soft, as in he rarely has the ability to push himself hard enough to beat strong opponents. Even in the Hero movie Piccolo had to pretend to hurt Pan to get him to beat Gamma 1. If that didn’t happen, as far as we can tell he would have lost. Gohan is over confident when he’s stronger than his opponents, which causes him to lose consistently. And he doesn’t have the the experience or grit to beat opponents that are on his lvl consistently.
    Gohan may be physically stronger than Goku, but I can almost guarantee he’d lose to him 10 times outta 10.

  • @realgamings7084
    @realgamings7084 Місяць тому

    If you could cover Akuto sai (that’ll be amazing)…. He’s a demon lord who I believe is stronger than all these broken characters like Gilgamesh, and Anti spiral and etc… the manga version needs a cover

  • @blazemastermind3168
    @blazemastermind3168 Місяць тому +2

    Yo Avent I'm not sure if you watched Tanya A saga of the evil but I was wondering if you could do a video on whether or not she's a sociopath given it's really debated whether she is or not

    • @07Eastwood
      @07Eastwood Місяць тому +1

      The Isekai DEMON

    • @jbless6799
      @jbless6799 Місяць тому

      You know that's an awesome ideas, I hope Avent do that.

    • @OmniDan26
      @OmniDan26 Місяць тому

      He was a psychopath long before he was put into the girl body. He just learned to control it.

  • @ryugakishutsu8535
    @ryugakishutsu8535 Місяць тому

    ok now imagine broly ssj2 or above💀💀💀💀

  • @sackey5735
    @sackey5735 Місяць тому

    One thing Beerus and Whis where of earth in the Moro arch when Goku used the Susano form

  • @wilhelmczorniczek1424
    @wilhelmczorniczek1424 Місяць тому

    Uhm.. this man‘s voice.. you’re not Vaatividya are you?

  • @gogetablue7905
    @gogetablue7905 Місяць тому +4

    While Beast Gohan is holding back... But
    Goku = Holding Back
    Vegeta = Uses Blue Evolved to fight Beast Gohan
    Broly = Uses SSJ Mastered
    You were saying? Pointless debate, It's training not a real fight.

  • @far0oky0u25
    @far0oky0u25 Місяць тому +7

    No lmao. Just no. How many times Has Goku been knocked down to base form and came back to win the fight?! This is ridiculous it was a sparing match. Did Goku Goku go Susano? Did Gohan actually try to kill Goku? This is getting RIDICULOUS.

    • @100nakpvp2
      @100nakpvp2 Місяць тому +2

      There's nothing ridiculous about it. MUI Goku got blitzed, and it was drawn the same way as when Frieza did it. It's just a much more impressive feat because Goku was expecting it and he appears to be have blocked the attack, unlike versus Freiza.
      The "it was just sparring" argument does not work because Goku was Fresh in MUI and Ultra instinct does not care if you're fighting to the death or not, it's auto-dodge every time. And Gohan had to go full power until he almost lost control just to pull out his perfect power. So by those factors you cannot just say it was just a spar. Because even it it was a real fight to the death, nothing would change as they both went all out.

  • @Hooliganken17
    @Hooliganken17 Місяць тому

    I’m under the belief gohan stronger but goku still wins the fight

  • @ra-neter6662
    @ra-neter6662 Місяць тому

    these power jumps from non goku and vegeta characters are past the point of ridiculous . super saiyan god really fucked shit up nice

  • @Hooliganken17
    @Hooliganken17 Місяць тому

    I also curious no one ever tackles the statement of goku saying he was testin gohan not trying to win🤔EXTREMELY INTERESTING

  • @Probably349
    @Probably349 Місяць тому +1

    Can Patrick Jane catch Johan liebert?

  • @ashuade7382
    @ashuade7382 Місяць тому

    Gohan has more raw power, however Goku has more hax, skill, adaptability and battle IQ. Although more powerful, Gohan would lose in an all out 1v1. Let's not forget one important fact that Goku wasn't fighting to beat him, hence why he stayed defensive to test Beast's offensive capabilities against his MUI defensive, and to say that fight isn't close has to be the most disingenuous thing I've ever heard

  • @mubarakbalogun7217
    @mubarakbalogun7217 27 днів тому

    okay so how does gohan stack against black freiza🤔

  • @FSUAM
    @FSUAM Місяць тому

    Can make video on white room vs whimmys house who produced better geniuses

  • @mozail1388
    @mozail1388 Місяць тому

    In the start of the fight, Goku wasn't trying as hard to hit Gohan as much as Gohan was trying to hit him. He was really just gauging his power. I feel like theres still a debate if, if Goku dicided to go all out from the start.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      There's no debate bcuz Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

  • @sgfiree
    @sgfiree Місяць тому +2

    Jiren Broke Through UI.. Gohan Did Not.. Goku Clearly Dropped Out Of It Himself

  • @JohnnyAngelz436
    @JohnnyAngelz436 Місяць тому

    Yo bro I’ve gotta business opportunity for you

  • @Yokai_Yuri
    @Yokai_Yuri Місяць тому

    Just remember... Goku perfected U.I (silver) isn't even mastered at all and it is at the bottom of the bottom tier of all the U.I users. People can give Gohan the title of the strongest alongside Broly, but at the end of the day, nothing is beating an angel passive trait.
    Goku will ascend to a point where he might be a low tier angel in terms of U.I mastery.
    Another thing is...Broly is stronger than Gohan.

  • @sgfiree
    @sgfiree Місяць тому

    Also The Manga Is Completely Diff Then The Anime and The OWNER Did Not Write That

  • @WildFang39
    @WildFang39 20 днів тому

    LR STR Beast Gohan Solos fiction

  • @Hooliganken17
    @Hooliganken17 Місяць тому +1

    9:48 whoa whoa whoa 😭u could also argue Goku didn’t tap into it as soon as possible considering if this was a real fight goku wouldn’t waste time talking and giving gohan his props

    • @darryltorres7302
      @darryltorres7302 Місяць тому

      It's Goku. He's giving his props even during a serious fight, that ain't gonna change.

  • @nanomalefico3136
    @nanomalefico3136 Місяць тому

    And Goku said he was never even trying tò win fight, but only tò test Gohan

  • @Aryan_H1
    @Aryan_H1 26 днів тому

    Goku will always get another form and surpass the rabble.
    He is the franchise.

  • @speedbeyondlogic
    @speedbeyondlogic Місяць тому

    Goku beats gohan. Gohan only got in one solid hit after massively amping himself and almost going berserk and having to control himself. And after that hit goku was perfectly fine and went on to fight gohan while not paying attention to him and focusing on broly. Goku than pushes going away without touching him with one hand and ends the spar there. Goku also wasn't trying to beat gohan and he didn't use his techniques.

  • @yurithe4th
    @yurithe4th Місяць тому +3

    Did Goku not tell Vegeta that he wasn’t trying to win in the same chapter?

    • @meghanath07
      @meghanath07 Місяць тому +4

      Didn't Vegeta said it's a draw?

    • @pozzytrack0
      @pozzytrack0 Місяць тому +3

      If we want to talk about not trying Gohan quite literally has to cap himself so he doesn’t use the full power of his beast form. It’s explained in the video and in the Manga itself.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      Yes

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +2

      ​@pozzytrack0 You're reaching and if this content creator said that then he is too, Gohan controls his power right when he's about to snap as in when in his beast form, he constantly uses rage in battle and controls it when he gets angrier and angrier and uses that rage to amp himself, your making it sound like he can transform infinite times if he wanted to but doesn't, if that was the case he would've done that and 1 shot Goku or would've done that to show Goku his power so he could know the power difference plus if that's the case then I guess then i guess Black Frieza, Beerus, Whis and the Gp could lose to Gohan, none of what you're implying makes any sense

    • @QGUU
      @QGUU Місяць тому

      @@pozzytrack0you’re absolutely wrong lmao that’s not what happened

  • @rpsnider85
    @rpsnider85 Місяць тому

    I'd guess that Gohan is more powerful. He's always been the fighter with the most potential...by A LOT.

  • @Purplebellybella
    @Purplebellybella Місяць тому +1

    Everyone need to remember Vegeta never got his potential unlocked nor did goku

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      Ok and?💀 is krillin or Gohan from the namek saga more powerful than mui Goku or ue Vegeta? What does this mean?

    • @Purplebellybella
      @Purplebellybella Місяць тому +1

      @@ContonCityNews Gohan for a massive power boost so can Goku and Vegeta

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      @@Purplebellybella Doesn't matter tho, the last potential unlock was in the buu saga, they're useless now otherwise the kais would've been using them constantly

    • @ectrion2574
      @ectrion2574 Місяць тому

      @@ContonCityNews wow your actually a fair debater instead of being biased

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      @@ectrion2574 thx alot for those words, currently arguing with alot of Gohan tards in the comment section, I'm a Goku tard fr, but if there's solid proof another character is stronger than him then I'm willing to accept it though it will hurt

  • @Cloudx0x
    @Cloudx0x Місяць тому

    I don't think Gohan is winning against Goku. While Gohan is technically stronger. Just barely. He's winded as soon as he landed those 2 hits on Goku. That probably drains a lot of his stamina. He literally had to get angry and power up to his fullest in order to trump Goku. Where as Goku is just being Goku. Second, while Gohan might be physically superior, but just barely, Goku has the tools to actually beat Gohan. He has Ui, he's far more experienced, and has better technique. Goku is the better fighter by miles. Also, take this how you want to take it, but Goku literally tells Vegeta that he wasn't reallly trying to beat Gohan.

  • @42kBandz
    @42kBandz Місяць тому

    … so we just gon go past the fact that bro lost in the manga or ?? And were also gonna go past the fact that if goku went UI hes as powerful as blue gogeta wich will utterly shit in gohan in any omniverse you can bring up ? Surely were not gonna forget about the favt that UI dodges move like a cheat code. Most definitely not gonna forget about that its a divine technique. Bro already lost, and UI has adaptation in it as well you saw it in the ToP. Gohan is pretty much done. Goku has experience, thats why roshi was able to squabble up wit jiren in the manga.

  • @VTX-sin
    @VTX-sin Місяць тому

    Hey guys it's aventie and today where gonna be doing what if Naruto had the 10tails

  • @Hakaishin-225
    @Hakaishin-225 Місяць тому

    How much stronger do these db mfs need to get man they are already on par with the gods why would they need any more power

  • @theviewer9363
    @theviewer9363 Місяць тому +1

    Beast gohanis cool, and im okay with the idea ofgohan surpassig goku. I just dont like how it happened. It just came out of no where. No training, no defeats and zenkai boosts. Just nothing. He just got mad and it isnt even related to his saiyain powers. So he got mad and just poof, became stronger than gods and angels? Where was this in the buu ark?

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +1

      Don't worry he hasn't surpassed Goku
      Explanation: Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 Місяць тому

      @@ContonCityNews your basically a youtube bot at this point i ain't taking you seriously anymore GOHANS THE STRONGEST AS STATED BY AKIRA TORIYAMA

    • @QGUU
      @QGUU Місяць тому

      @@StevenJones851Toriyama never said that stop misquoting

  • @Senpai.876
    @Senpai.876 Місяць тому

    Stopped watching DBZ after the Buu Arc, tapped back in for TOP in Super and that’s all.. and after watching this video, I’m glad about the decision I made💯.. Cause wtf is this garbage?

  • @spaghettithegamer1344
    @spaghettithegamer1344 Місяць тому +1

    Well the manga says that gohan win,goku was in fully power,his strongest form is mui,tui is just ui sign so he can use his emotions,in that case gohan did win
    So in other words
    The strongest:gohan
    The best potential:broly/gohan
    The battle ig/goku and vegeta

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +1

      Not even, Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

    • @spaghettithegamer1344
      @spaghettithegamer1344 Місяць тому +1

      @@ContonCityNews beerus and whis confirmed goku was going all out

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      @@spaghettithegamer1344 No they never

    • @SirWarden
      @SirWarden Місяць тому

      @@ContonCityNews I get you love Goku but you gotta stop copy-and pasting this same answer 49 times bruh lol.

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      @@SirWarden I'm just telling the truth to Gohan tards, this is a comment section and I'm allowed to speak my mind

  • @zerogtoxik6020
    @zerogtoxik6020 Місяць тому +1

    Massive W

  • @DBZ_AnimeWORLD
    @DBZ_AnimeWORLD Місяць тому +1

    False, Gohan can only use his full power for short time . Probably then ssj3 Goku in the buu saga. Once Goku went back in Ui he couldn’t be touched and knocked Gohan away. Ui Goku is the strongest because Ui is the strongest form simple

    • @sspurgatoryx8773
      @sspurgatoryx8773 Місяць тому +6

      When was it stated that Gohan can use Beast for a short time?

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +2

      Forget that, Gohan is basically CONFIRMED weaker than Goku
      Explanation: Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku
      Literally everything you need to know is in their battle

    • @DBZ_AnimeWORLD
      @DBZ_AnimeWORLD Місяць тому

      @@sspurgatoryx8773 it was shown, when he powered up to land that one punch on Goku that just scratched his face. Pay attention 😭

    • @sspurgatoryx8773
      @sspurgatoryx8773 Місяць тому +1

      @@DBZ_AnimeWORLD YOU pay attention and quit lying. Gohan never said that.

    • @DBZ_AnimeWORLD
      @DBZ_AnimeWORLD Місяць тому

      @@sspurgatoryx8773 so you can’t tell when a person is tired are you like 13 or something. Gohan was breathing heavy and had to go full power plus rage boost just to bearly hurt Goku smh

  • @ghosttaki8547
    @ghosttaki8547 Місяць тому

    Now that dbs is so back I hope they triple down on GOHEEZY cuz he’s back.

  • @Ibzilla
    @Ibzilla Місяць тому

    bUt CaN hE bEaT gOkU tHo?

  • @gohan7389
    @gohan7389 Місяць тому

    It says if he was completed he would be stronger than broly but was awaken early so he is not stronger than broly

  • @Dion.The.SupremeDeity
    @Dion.The.SupremeDeity Місяць тому

    I disagree Goku and Gohan are probably super close in power and Gohan just close that gap and surpass goku power by a small margin.
    In my opinion Goku and Gohan is like Goku and Gas after Goku evolved his Omen UI to True UI!
    Being Gohan is stronger but only by him controlling his power like he did allowed him to margin catch up to Goku, briefly surpassed him!
    Now watch after Gohan master this level he just used Goku is gonna far surpass him again! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @theanticap4661
    @theanticap4661 Місяць тому +3

    Goku>> gohan get over it

    • @FLARE371
      @FLARE371 Місяць тому

      It’s more like goku>= gohan but oh well

    • @troygarner666
      @troygarner666 Місяць тому

      Oh no, it’s definitely goku=

    • @FLARE371
      @FLARE371 Місяць тому

      @@troygarner666 speed.

    • @troygarner666
      @troygarner666 Місяць тому

      In Dragon Ball, unless stated otherwise speed equal strength and Gohan is stronger

    • @FLARE371
      @FLARE371 Місяць тому

      @@troygarner666 goku has hax, abilities, experience and speed (since gohan needs to almost go berserk and be exhausted after that to even HIT GOKU!)

  • @Okaysi4
    @Okaysi4 Місяць тому

    You're not even read the manga gohan said in the end that he is just using his max power on that but still goku can manage to keep up with him even vegeta ask to goku no winning no losing goku said that goku is testing gohan if he can defend earth even if their not around its goku is holding read the manga then make a conclusion

  • @TheDanger-s5m
    @TheDanger-s5m Місяць тому

    Can bro even powerscale?

  • @IcorEosAGS
    @IcorEosAGS Місяць тому

    I'm not agree with the analisis of Goku power
    You said Goku in the Granolah Arc grew tremendously in power when that wasn't stated nor shown at all
    If anything, the Granolah arc show us how Goku couldn't tap into the full power of UI at will, which force him to use a nerfed version of silver UI until he used TUI
    The Moro Arc UI was stated to be perfect, emotion controlled and was able to fight against at the same level of Meerus UI, who is an angel by nature and doesn't have the problems Goku has later on the next arc
    After the Granolah arc he faced Gohan using aparently the 100% Silver UI
    Goku and Gohan are on the same tier, the fight was even

  • @Imneithergokunorvegeta
    @Imneithergokunorvegeta 13 днів тому

    Agreed Gohan is stronger

  • @Antonio-vn5xc
    @Antonio-vn5xc Місяць тому +10

    Goku convincingly wins. Gohan doesn't have the stamina to keep up the level hed have to to beat goku.

    • @RYNCRRLL
      @RYNCRRLL Місяць тому +1

      bro didn’t watch the video😭

    • @Antonio-vn5xc
      @Antonio-vn5xc Місяць тому

      @@RYNCRRLL I didn't lmao. He say otherwise?

    • @rngss9541
      @rngss9541 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@RYNCRRLL the video is flawed, firstly whis and beerus never seen goku in his susano state or whatever you call it as they left due to a call from the gp. 2nd he uses statements that are about orange piccolo being on par with goku and vegeta, this doesn't clear up if its on par with blue forms or ultra form as it would make more sense if it was blue forms or atleast blue kaioken and blue evolution as goku showed relativity to a stronger beast gohan who beat cell max. 3rd, as he showed goku leaves his forms for stupid reason as jiren scared goku out of ssj blue, most likely goku would just jump back into mui. He used the Title Battle Of The Strongest to claim goku being superior to vegeta which he can't as the battle of the strongest would include frieza in it, most likely battle of the strongest was only refered as people on the same power level playing field like ultra ego, mui, beast, lssj, black frieza

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому +1

      Exactly, Gohan was getting amps in battle by his beast form since that's how it works, he gets angrier and angrier till he feels he's about to snap, then uses that power to amp himself continuously, so yh, even worse, Goku isn't even at full power as he stated while Gohan is, so Goku's Power stats are basically confirmed higher than Gohan's, Gohan is NOT faster or stronger than Goku

    • @ContonCityNews
      @ContonCityNews Місяць тому

      ​@@RYNCRRLL Good tbh, it's wrong, bro is not Akira or Toyotaro, think for yourselves and just READ and COMPREHEND the info that was given to you in the manga

  • @CallMeIAN1
    @CallMeIAN1 Місяць тому +2

    ur beginning to turn into a DB content creator. Anyways, beerus n whis didnt see gokus avatar, plus, his avatar is him literally using PUI aswell as having a ki shape of himself, he overpowered gas in that moment (since gas couldnt break his grip) and also he couldnt break into moro's defenses w PUI alone, leading him to lose the form, however, w this avatar, he regaines his form and overpowered him w it.
    Moreover, goku was obv holding back more than gohan, while gohan was also holding back, goku mentioned that he didnt have the intention to win against him, but only gauged his strength and thought broly can handle it.
    Furthermore, Goku didnt transform from base to UI again after the burst of Gohan's full power "which literally left him puffing" was bcz he was only questioning gohan, the scratches in the next panels are also gone, plus he was only crying as a goku thing, as goku literally cries from bulma's slaps *as seen in DBS BOG and further into the story*
    What Gohan meant by "why is everyone willing to fight me" was that its only everyone thats intrigued abt his strength, its not based on a logic that gohans stronger and they wanna surpass him.
    Conclusion: Goku's superior speed n exp gives him the edge, Mid-Diff.

  • @scrubzero1735
    @scrubzero1735 Місяць тому

    Mui Goku high diffs.or if you truly believe Gohan wins then he at the very least extreme diffs Goku.
    The fight is either extremely close but Gohan favoured, or it’s Goku favoured but he MUST put his all into it to win.

  • @MasterCombatant
    @MasterCombatant Місяць тому

    I respectfully disagree. Yes, Gohan is, in fact, the strongest. That can’t be denied but the reason I believe Goku to be better overall is due to the technique and skill of UI. Sometimes the stronger one isn’t who wins, but instead it’s the one who happens to be a better fighter overall

    • @QGUU
      @QGUU Місяць тому

      It can be denied lmao gohan isn’t the strongest

    • @MasterCombatant
      @MasterCombatant Місяць тому

      @@QGUUwho would you say is the strongest?

  • @mazensultan2576
    @mazensultan2576 Місяць тому

    goku glaze is mad

  • @AndreSoto-q5v
    @AndreSoto-q5v Місяць тому

    It kinda is close

  • @yurum144yuhauuha7
    @yurum144yuhauuha7 Місяць тому +2

    Nahh bro your smoking bro goku and vegeta was holding back

    • @chrishook1815
      @chrishook1815 Місяць тому +2

      There are multiple statements that state Goku was not holding back. You have the official dragon ball website,Toyotaro in an interview and Vegeta all state that Beast Gohan is stronger.
      Official dragon ball website Goku Gohan was fighting at full power.
      Vegeta Kakarot is using UI to steer the fight in his favor
      Toyotaro I want to make the fights in super to be like the fights in dragon ball not just about who is stronger but who is a better fighter.
      So in the end there are literal statements that Goku was not holding back.
      But Goku said he wasn't trying to win. Yes but Goku said before the sparring match that he wanted to see how strong Gohan had gotten.
      In a serious fight Goku would win even though he is weaker.
      Bardock was stated to be weaker than gas and bardock defeated gas
      Does that mean gas was holding back?

  • @Alex_orezaru-mb4nr
    @Alex_orezaru-mb4nr Місяць тому +1

    reminder-pui is way stronger than mui

    • @raiden8991
      @raiden8991 Місяць тому

      It's the same form PUI is the official name and MUI is a fanmade name.

    • @Alex_orezaru-mb4nr
      @Alex_orezaru-mb4nr Місяць тому

      @@raiden8991 nope pui is an evolution like tui its basicly ui omen mui and than tui and pui evolved from mui pui id way stronger

    • @raiden8991
      @raiden8991 Місяць тому +1

      @@Alex_orezaru-mb4nr buddy don't make things up, the silver haired form was never officially called MUI it has always been called Perfected Ultra Instinct, MUI is just a fanmade name.

    • @Alex_orezaru-mb4nr
      @Alex_orezaru-mb4nr Місяць тому

      @@raiden8991 "buddy dont make things up" ill use the same things lets search on yt💀💀

    • @ectrion2574
      @ectrion2574 Місяць тому

      @@Alex_orezaru-mb4nrpui is mui bro

  • @QGUU
    @QGUU Місяць тому

    Goku stomps badly

  • @RemJai1234
    @RemJai1234 Місяць тому

    tell this to dragon clap tv
    he wont listen trust me

  • @Hamitmisini
    @Hamitmisini 9 днів тому

    Goku mui wins

  • @princevegeta2715
    @princevegeta2715 Місяць тому

    Gohan stomps